Chris Mack is MY coach!

[Drew's Crew]

I love the positive sentiment on this board today, and am not happy with the result last night, but happy with the effort nonetheless.

Throughout this past season, Mack came under fire for a lot of different reasons, some deserved, others a bit unfair. I think it is important to keep in mind how fortunate we are to have what we have in Mack. We have to keep it in perspective.

Mack has taken his lumps on the recruiting trail for sure, and I think it took him a couple years to understand what type of player he was looking for. Because of that, we were left with some barren recruiting classes with players transferring and Dez and Semaj leaving early for other reasons.

Chris Mack has taken XU to 3 Sweet Sixteens in 6 years. Yes, I know - we want more than that. So do I. And I can guarantee you none of us want it more than Mack.

One of the issues with Xavier over the decades has been our coaches leaving for "bigger" or "better" programs once they find sustained success in the Queen City. In my opinion, this has kept XU from achieving its ultimate goal of reaching a FF and getting a championship.

Sometimes it is hard to keep our expectations of coaches in check. Look what we have become accustomed to over the years? We have found INCREDIBLE basketball coaches time and time again to lead our program. Instead of looking at Mack's weaknesses, I think people need to focus more on his strengths. By all accounts, Mack is here for the long haul. He LOVES Xavier University and his family loves Cincinnati. I love how proud he is of our history, our tradition and our program. He gets it. These are intangible qualities that you CAN'T find in other coaches! How many programs have an alma mater determined to take his program that he loves to the next level? It really is something special, something I don't think we focus on enough.

Mack's personal history aside, I think this year was a bellwether season for him from a coaching standpoint. There were a lot of moving pieces this year, and while we were talented, I don't think we were quite as developed as we would have liked. Our offensive efficiency was one of the best in the country, and more importantly, our defense made ENORMOUS strides throughout the year. Mack had us playing the best basketball when we needed to.

Mack can recruit.

Mack can coach.

He actually does both of them at a very high level.

His players LOVE playing for him.

I love Xavier basketball - some would say too much. And watching Miller all week with his AZ gear on reminiscing about his time at X, I began to realize something. Miller loved it here, he did. But it was just a school for him. It was another city. He's a Pitt guy. Cincinnati was no different to him when he got here than any other city.

Mack is a Xavier man. He loves his alma mater, which just so happens to be mine.

Mack hates UC.

Mack hates Butler.

Although he wouldn't publicly admit to either.

Chris Mack is MY COACH. And I can't wait for him to take us to the promised land. He will enjoy more than anyone knows.

I am going to raise a glass to Coach Mack tonight while watching the NCAAs and get all kinds of jacked up thinking about Mack leading another group of young, coachable Muskies to another run at the title next season and for many years to come.

[xu82]

What he said.... since I couldn't say it better.

[Masterofreality]

Hear, Hear!

As I've said before, every year you coach, you get better. You could see great progression in the staff's preparation and strategy throughout the year- to the point of being flexible to run different defenses to fit the personnel. Look at how much zone we played last night. We probably played more zone in the last 6 games than we played in the previous 6 years!

The new "Coach Endowment" sets X up to be financially competitive and CMack is comfortable. I see this to be a stress free off season.

Go X!

[blobfan]

Agree completely. We are lucking to have Chris Mack and his whole family with us as a program. That there's room for growth, and signs of it, bodes well. I'm glad we haven't got out ceiling yet and am looking forward to the next couple seasons. I just need to learn to suck up the Big East losses. DePaul is not St Bonaventure.

[Xavier]

I admit, I was definitely critical of Mack and questioned multiple times on here if he was the right coach. I'm glad to admit I was wrong. Implementing the 1-3-1 zone was huge for us this year and I fully expect to see it as an option for years to come and I love it. He is underrated in terms of coaching plays out of the time out. I found myself saying "great play out of the time out" a lot (example, last night down 7 Arizona called a time out. X ran a great play to get Myles an open 3 which he drained. Also a great play out of timeout was Dee Davis getting an open 3 late against UC). Also, the guards missed some open looks last night and the more I think about it the more I think we missed a lot of open looks this season but we are getting open looks. Coaching.

I think he is starting to recruit his style more and more. Looking forward to the length London and Sumner bring next season. Mack is on a mission to bring Xavier a final four. For the first time-I believe he can accomplish that.

[Titanxman04]

Public reps since I got you on the other thread. Great bit there, friend. Agree 100%.

[markchal]

I agree with this. The offense moved the ball very well and I'd like to echo others on how important that 1-3-1 was to essentially saving our season. He also got this team playing its best ball at the end of the season, finally.

I do think some of the criticism this season was certainly justified, I also think this year, more than any other, he made more puzzling statements in the media, but part of that could just be candor that's unusual in this line of work.

I definitely think he proved a lot this year in terms of his coaching and he should have also bought himself plenty of time with his detractors, so it will be interesting to see how things unfold the next few years. Certainly promising, although I'm really looking forward to Jalen and Myles senior year. I think that will be the year to watch, since even next season we will have a lot of newer players jumping into key roles (only Trevon/JP played considerable minutes out of our six frosh class), but we will bring back almost everyone the year after with a TON of experience. The next two years are the years to watch, IMO.

[Milhouse]

Hear, Hear!

As I've said before, every year you coach, you get better. You could see great progression in the staff's preparation and strategy throughout the year- to the point of being flexible to run different defenses to fit the personnel. Look at how much zone we played last night. We probably played more zone in the last 6 games than we played in the previous 6 years!

The new "Coach Endowment" sets X up to be financially competitive and CMack is comfortable. I see this to be a stress free off season.

Go X!

Really hope this is still the case with Texas opening up...not saying they'd go for him but it could cause some dominoes

[markchal]

Really hope this is still the case with Texas opening up...not saying they'd go for him but it could cause some dominoes

I think now that we're in the Big East that we will have to worry about things like this less. The Xavier job is much better than it used to be. I think we would start to worry if we start making some really deep runs in the tournament, and then lose him to a truly elite job.

[SemajParlor]

Really could make a strong case Mack outcoached Miller last night.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Really could make a strong case Mack outcoached Miller last night.

Did you guys read that that Stain 3 pointer to open the game was a designed play? Mack said it was to basically mess with Miller/confuse them. He said he told Stain if he made the first to shoot another. I found that fascinating.

[Milhouse]

Did you guys read that that Stain 3 pointer to open the game was a designed play? Mack said it was to basically mess with Miller/confuse them. He said he told Stain if he made the first to shoot another. I found that fascinating.

Loved it. Mack with the mind games.

[xu82]

Did you guys read that that Stain 3 pointer to open the game was a designed play? Mack said it was to basically mess with Miller/confuse them. He said he told Stain if he made the first to shoot another. I found that fascinating.

I love that! And I take back some of the things I may have uttered after witnessing it.

[Wheelhouse]

I thought Mack did a great job as the season went on and had this team peaking at the right time. The implementation of the 1-3-1 fueled our turnaround on the defensive end. Major props to Coach Mack for a job well done this year.

I hope he is Xavier's coach for a long time but I think you're fooling yourself if you think he's definitely here for the long haul. He might very well be but it sure isn't a lock. Like it or not, we can't match the money that some of the big schools can throw at a coach. The amount we can offer has increased a bunch, but the lure of the almighty dollar will always be there to possibly lure away our coach. And again, I hope he's here for the long haul!

[GreatWhiteNorth]

I like Mack from the time he became our head coach mostly because he is a Xavier guy, throught and through. I believe that his feeling for X is genuine. How many schools can say that about their head coaches? This has been a tough season but a rewarding one. Congrats to our BB team and all its fans. I am happy.

[Wheelhouse]

Did you guys read that that Stain 3 pointer to open the game was a designed play? Mack said it was to basically mess with Miller/confuse them. He said he told Stain if he made the first to shoot another. I found that fascinating.

I saw that in the press conference. I loved it. I think that kind of thing shows a level of ease with the magnitude of that game and probably helped calm the players as well. Good stuff by CMack.

[xavierj]

Chris out coached Sean for 34 minutes but Sean won the last 6. Sean had left Stain alone with one guy for 34 minutes but started doubling him the last 6 minutes. He also had his guards start to drive and find the open guy vs the zone. Oh and the refs decided to call touch fouls the last 6 minutes as well so that played a part.

[MADXSTER]

Chris out coached Sean for 34 minutes but Sean won the last 6. Sean had left Stain alone with one guy for 34 minutes but started doubling him the last 6 minutes. He also had his guards start to drive and find the open guy vs the zone. Oh and the refs decided to call touch fouls the last 6 minutes as well so that played a part.

Agree. Stain picked up 3 fouls in 60 seconds. Also note that UA made their last 17 free throw attempts.

[xudash]

I love the positive sentiment on this board today, and am not happy with the result last night, but happy with the effort nonetheless.

Throughout this past season, Mack came under fire for a lot of different reasons, some deserved, others a bit unfair. I think it is important to keep in mind how fortunate we are to have what we have in Mack. We have to keep it in perspective.

Mack has taken his lumps on the recruiting trail for sure, and I think it took him a couple years to understand what type of player he was looking for. Because of that, we were left with some barren recruiting classes with players transferring and Dez and Semaj leaving early for other reasons.

Chris Mack has taken XU to 3 Sweet Sixteens in 6 years. Yes, I know - we want more than that. So do I. And I can guarantee you none of us want it more than Mack.

One of the issues with Xavier over the decades has been our coaches leaving for "bigger" or "better" programs once they find sustained success in the Queen City. In my opinion, this has kept XU from achieving its ultimate goal of reaching a FF and getting a championship.

Sometimes it is hard to keep our expectations of coaches in check. Look what we have become accustomed to over the years? We have found INCREDIBLE basketball coaches time and time again to lead our program. Instead of looking at Mack's weaknesses, I think people need to focus more on his strengths. By all accounts, Mack is here for the long haul. He LOVES Xavier University and his family loves Cincinnati. I love how proud he is of our history, our tradition and our program. He gets it. These are intangible qualities that you CAN'T find in other coaches! How many programs have an alma mater determined to take his program that he loves to the next level? It really is something special, something I don't think we focus on enough.

Mack's personal history aside, I think this year was a bellwether season for him from a coaching standpoint. There were a lot of moving pieces this year, and while we were talented, I don't think we were quite as developed as we would have liked. Our offensive efficiency was one of the best in the country, and more importantly, our defense made ENORMOUS strides throughout the year. Mack had us playing the best basketball when we needed to.

Mack can recruit.

Mack can coach.

He actually does both of them at a very high level.

His players LOVE playing for him.

I love Xavier basketball - some would say too much. And watching Miller all week with his AZ gear on reminiscing about his time at X, I began to realize something. Miller loved it here, he did. But it was just a school for him. It was another city. He's a Pitt guy. Cincinnati was no different to him when he got here than any other city.

Mack is a Xavier man. He loves his alma mater, which just so happens to be mine.

Mack hates UC.

Mack hates Butler.

Although he wouldn't publicly admit to either.

Chris Mack is MY COACH. And I can't wait for him to take us to the promised land. He will enjoy more than anyone knows.

I am going to raise a glass to Coach Mack tonight while watching the NCAAs and get all kinds of jacked up thinking about Mack leading another group of young, coachable Muskies to another run at the title next season and for many years to come.

Public reps to go with the private ones. Excellent post.

We may have to bronze this one and bring it out during next season from time to time (pardon me while I whip this out) when there are instances of a lack of, shall we call it, sufficient perspective.

[xudash]

I thought Mack did a great job as the season went on and had this team peaking at the right time. The implementation of the 1-3-1 fueled our turnaround on the defensive end. Major props to Coach Mack for a job well done this year.

I hope he is Xavier's coach for a long time but I think you're fooling yourself if you think he's definitely here for the long haul. He might very well be but it sure isn't a lock. Like it or not, we can't match the money that some of the big schools can throw at a coach. The amount we can offer has increased a bunch, but the lure of the almighty dollar will always be there to possibly lure away our coach. And again, I hope he's here for the long haul!

You may be right, but I'll offer the following as reasons why we need to be careful about comparing Chris possibly leaving to those who left before him:

1. He is a Xavier guy, and that counts, especially since he also is a Cincinnati native, which counts in its own way.

2. The previous coaches did not have the Big East as part of their arsenal. If you don't think that's a big deal, then I can't help you - the general "you", not you specifically Wheelhouse.

3. We can throw more money at him now as direct compensation. Sean was being taken to low 7 digits with Xavier in the A10. We can get Chris into 7 digits now for his base salary, if he isn't already.

4. Hey look at that: we now have an endowed coaching position; we've never had that before.

Aside from his nexus to Xavier and Cincinnati and aside from the money, I suspect Chris has had conversations with Sean about Sean's experience moving to Arizona.

Bottomline: What increment of money is required on the left side of the scale to tip the balance for a change of venue from what sits on the right side of the scale, which includes:

Big fish in a basketball-focused pond.
Alma Mater.
Home.
7-digit total package over a multiple year period (i.e. it's about annual number times the number of years you survive in a position, with any P5 job that could be considered carrying a higher performance risk factor than what exists at a known like Xavier).

[Wheelhouse]

You may be right, but I'll offer the following as reasons why we need to be careful about comparing Chris possibly leaving to those who left before him:

1. He is a Xavier guy, and that counts, especially since he also is a Cincinnati native, which counts in its own way.

2. The previous coaches did not have the Big East as part of their arsenal. If you don't think that's a big deal, then I can't help you - the general "you", not you specifically Wheelhouse.

3. We can throw more money at him now as direct compensation. Sean was being taken to low 7 digits with Xavier in the A10. We can get Chris into 7 digits now for his base salary, if he isn't already.

4. Hey look at that: we now have an endowed coaching position; we've never had that before.

Aside from his nexus to Xavier and Cincinnati and aside from the money, I suspect Chris has had conversations with Sean about Sean's experience moving to Arizona.

Bottomline: What increment of money is required on the left side of the scale to tip the balance for a change of venue from what sits on the right side of the scale, which includes:

Big fish in a basketball-focused pond.
Alma Mater.
Home.
7-digit total package over a multiple year period (i.e. it's about annual number times the number of years you survive in a position, with any P5 job that could be considered carrying a higher performance risk factor than what exists at a known like Xavier).

I agree with everything in your post. I was just cautioning against the sentiment that he'll never leave because he's a "Xavier guy". I think he'll stay, and for many of the reasons you list above. I just don't think it's the lock that a few around these parts think it is.

[MADXSTER]

I don't think it is a lock either however Xavier is much closer to being a destination than ever before.

[xudash]

I agree with everything in your post. I was just cautioning against the sentiment that he'll never leave because he's a "Xavier guy". I think he'll stay, and for many of the reasons you list above. I just don't think it's the lock that a few around these parts think it is.

Very fair way to put it.

On that note, I'm not worrying about him leaving, because I don't think he's going anywhere. In fact, I failed to mention that it appears as though his daughters would let him have it if he tried to go anywhere else. They've been superbly brainwashed in Xavier blue, white and silver.

[LadyMuskie]

Really could make a strong case Mack outcoached Miller last night.

I absolutely think Mack out-coached Miller last night. I think the game plan was sound, it was the execution that wasn't firing on all cylinders like we needed it to in order to win the game.

I read one article this morning that said that Xavier was the first team that fully exposed Arizona's weakness against the zone, and for 35 minutes Arizona had no answer. I can't disagree. It wasn't perfect, but we did one hell of a job keeping the game from turning into the debacle that was the UK/WVU game.

[MADXSTER]

Xavier lost but can keep their heads held high. WV not so much. ouch

[Masterofreality]

Xavier lost but can keep their heads held high. WV not so much. ouch

Was BeelzeBob puking in the locker room after that one?

Amazingly, I didn't hear of any bar fights in downtown Cleveland involving a fat-ass DUI convicted Basketball coach.

[Xavier]

I absolutely think Mack out-coached Miller last night. I think the game plan was sound, it was the execution that wasn't firing on all cylinders like we needed it to in order to win the game.

I read one article this morning that said that Xavier was the first team that fully exposed Arizona's weakness against the zone, and for 35 minutes Arizona had no answer. I can't disagree. It wasn't perfect, but we did one hell of a job keeping the game from turning into the debacle that was the UK/WVU game.

I don't know, I think it was evenly matched. I think Miller coached in a way where he was going to let Stain beat them- but not allow the kick to the guards/3's. I am sure he didn't expect Stain to do that good against his front line, but then in the last 5-6 minutes Sean guarded Stain completely differently than the whole game. Threw a couple different guys at him and started to sag more. I don't mean to diminish Macks coaching at all, I think he did a hell of a job. IMO, to say he and Miller were evenly matched in coaching is a hell of a compliment to him. I just feel like neither coached got "out-coached" in the game...though, the 1-3-1 was fantastic

[xu82]

Last night was the first loss I can remember I just might go back and watch again. Maybe not all the way....

[Wheelhouse]

Last night was the first loss I can remember I just might go back and watch again. Maybe not all the way....

I know what you mean. Reminded me of the K-State Sweet 16 game from a few years ago without the fireworks. We lost both but I was proud of our team after both of those games.

[UCGRAD4X]

Aside from his nexus to Xavier and Cincinnati and aside from the money, I suspect Chris has had conversations with Sean about Sean's experience moving to Arizona.

Sean told Mack to forget the nexus to Xavier and get a buick if he plans to stay.

It is a bit of a double edged sword: the more success a coach has the more other schools are going to want to lure him away. I would agree that we are in the best position we could probably ask for in that regard. Get an outsider - get the success you hope for - and lose him. Hire a homer, give him the time to become the kind of coach you want.

If I had my choice between success and a revolving door in the head coaches chair or losing and a stable coach, I choose the former…partly because the latter would probably be shown the revolving door sooner or later anyway.

(Which makes me wonder when the last time Xavier fired a head basketball coach?)

I think we will take our chances with Mack.

[JEHARDI]

Great post, hope Mack stays a long, long time, he can coach, he can recruit and he represents our alma mater with class, humor and candor. He is Xavier through and through and keeping a coach of his calibre over a long period will give us the best chance we have of finally making it to a FF.

[Masterofreality]

(Which makes me wonder when the last time Xavier fired a head basketball coach?)

I think we will take our chances with Mack.

Tay Baker....although technically, he "resigned". Thanks to Dr. Bill Daily, who incidentally was out in Los Angeles this week, Xavier got serious about basketball and had enough with Baker's half ass effort in recruiting and coaching. Baker would rather play golf than actually recruit.

[Drew's Crew]

Mack is still MY COACH and will be for years to come. I look forward to seeing him try to bring us to the promised land next year with tough-as-hell returning players and the best recruiting class in Xavier history.

All hail Coach Mackl

[XfansinKy]

He's a top 5-10 coach nationally.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Congrats on a hell of a job Coach Mack!

Cant wait until next year!

[JEHARDI]

The future remains very bright, it is only a matter of time before they kick the door down to the FF.

[American X]

Mack is still MY COACH and will be for years to come. I look forward to seeing him try to bring us to the promised land next year with tough-as-hell returning players and the best recruiting class in Xavier history.

All hail Coach Mackl

I endorse this message.

[xufan2434]

"Georgetown put out strong feelers to Xavier's Chris Mack at $4 million per year, source told ESPN. Mack staying at Xavier." -- Jeff Goodman

Bahahahahahaha Georgetown sucks

If X fans needed any more security that he wants to stay, this should do it

[drudy23]

There's a reason why I can't think of any coach that moved within their own conference. Maybe there are some...but I can't think of any.

At this point, they are likely on their 5th or 6th candidate. Beast of the East no more.

[GoMuskies]

Jim Baron went from Bonny to Rhody. Tubby Smith from Georgia to Kentucky.

[GuyFawkes38]

"Georgetown put out strong feelers to Xavier's Chris Mack at $4 million per year, source told ESPN. Mack staying at Xavier." -- Jeff Goodman

Bahahahahahaha Georgetown sucks

If X fans needed any more security that he wants to stay, this should do it

Really surprised Georgetown would do this. If true, pretty crappy move by them to try to poach a coach within the conference.

[Ohionite_X]

At least we know Georgetown is not settling and is willing to shell out some big time cash.. That being said, I hope we beat them senseless next season.

[xufan2434]

I have to imagine Chris started laughing when he got the call about it.. I don't think there is any amount of money they could have offered him to persuade him to go there and then have to play against X twice a year.

[MD Muskie]

Jim Baron went from Bonny to Rhody. Tubby Smith from Georgia to Kentucky.

both of those would be considered a step up. Well at least Kentucky would be.

[GoMuskies]

both of those would be considered a step up. Well at least Kentucky would be.

Indeed. Many would consider Georgetown a step up from Xavier, too.

[MD Muskie]

Indeed. Many would consider Georgetown a step up from Xavier, too.

The only people that now believe Georgetown would be a step up from Xavier are the Georgetown Alumni and boosters who still think that Georgetown is playing in the 1980's Big East.

[mistabeecee41]

CasualHoya, who is normally a solid twitter account, seems to think Goodman planted this info because him and Mack are buddies - resulting in X shelling out more dough.

eyeroll.

[GoMuskies]

The only people that now believe Georgetown would be a step up from Xavier are the Georgetown Alumni and boosters who still think that Georgetown is playing in the 1980's Big East.

I think you'd be surprised.

[GuyFawkes38]

CasualHoya, who is normally a solid twitter account, seems to think Goodman planted this info because him and Mack are buddies - resulting in X shelling out more dough.

eyeroll.

Mack is apparently close to him. Doesn't make sense that Georgetown would seek Mack....that's possibly believable to me. Who knows.

[xu82]

At least we know Georgetown is not settling and is willing to shell out some big time cash.. That being said, I hope we beat them senseless next season.

Every chance we get! Stay AWAY from our coach!

[Muskie]

The only people that now believe Georgetown would be a step up from Xavier are the Georgetown Alumni and boosters who still think that Georgetown is playing in the 1980's Big East.

According to people like Brian Snow you would be incorrect. Georgetown is considered to be one of the best potential jobs in the conference.


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[MD Muskie]

According to people like Brian Snow you would be incorrect. Georgetown is considered to be one of the best potential jobs in the conference.


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Let me correct myself. Gtown is a potential sleeping giant and I don't deny that. A strong Gtown program is ideal for the Big East. However a lot of people around the DC area believe for them to move forward to they have to move away from the JT2 tree. If he keeps his influence there, they will continue to be stuck in the neutral like they currently are.

[Juice]

According to people like Brian Snow you would be incorrect. Georgetown is considered to be one of the best potential jobs in the conference.


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I'm in agreement with him. Look at them compared to X: better recruiting area, more money, more "tradition", and better academics. They just upgraded their practice facilities. The one thing X has is Cintas. I would think that most college players would rather play in an on campus arena that's always full compared to an off campus NBA arena that's like half full.

[xu82]

I'm in agreement with him. Look at them compared to X: better recruiting area, more money, more "tradition", and better academics. They just upgraded their practice facilities. The one thing X has is Cintas. I would think that most college players would rather play in an on campus arena that's always full compared to an off campus NBA arena that's like half full.

Slight tangent, but how the hell does FSU recruit? On the edge of campus, but NOBODY goes to games. How far is the GT arena? I think Cintas is a HUGE recruiting advantage. (Yeah, I know, that's breaking news...)

[drudy23]

Have you ever been to FSU?

[xu82]

Have you ever been to FSU?

My son went there. Are you talking the females?

[Masterofreality]

This is not another #PayTheMan rant, but the way that CMack navigated this team through adversity then proved what a great X and O coach he is by schooling Sean Miller showed that he deserves more cash in pocket.

This is not a lecture, but I made sure that I got half my annual All For One/1831 Society annual donation in today for March Gladness. Xavier as a private school can only pay what the donors and program allow it to pay. I don't expect that everyone can donate , but if you can, throw a few shekels toward Victory Parkway. It is certainly money that is not wasted.

[xu82]

This is not another #PayTheMan rant, but the way that CMack navigated this team through adversity then proved what a great X and O coach he is by schooling Sean Miller showed that he deserves more cash in pocket.

This is not a lecture, but I made sure that I got half my annual All For One/1831 Society annual donation in today for March Gladness. Xavier as a private school can only pay what the donors and program allow it to pay. I don't expect that everyone can donate , but if you can, throw a few shekels toward Victory Parkway. It is certainly money that is not wasted.

Point well made. Thanks.

[GIMMFD]

My son went there. Are you talking the females?

Yes. Only reason I applied to half of the southern schools.

[LA Muskie]

CasualHoya, who is normally a solid twitter account, seems to think Goodman planted this info because him and Mack are buddies - resulting in X shelling out more dough.

eyeroll.

This actually sounds much more plausible than GTown offering Mack $4mm.

[GIMMFD]

This actually sounds much more plausible than GTown offering Mack $4mm.

That's true, $4mil is insane, that would make Mack what? Like the 6th highest paid coach in the NCAA?? He'd make $1.5 more than Jay Wright...

[birdman71]

I'm in agreement with him. Look at them compared to X: better recruiting area, more money, more "tradition", and better academics. They just upgraded their practice facilities. The one thing X has is Cintas. I would think that most college players would rather play in an on campus arena that's always full compared to an off campus NBA arena that's like half full.

Better movie made on campus: 'The Exorcist' over 'Ides of March'