Jalen Reynolds Investigation

[Jehoya]

Rick Broering tweeted that there's been a report that's been filed within the University against Jalen Reynolds, after the initial findings by the report, there's been no status changed with the students involved, There will be a 4-5 week investigation needed to figure out what happened. Jalen will be playing..what's going on???:dunno:

[Cheesehead]

Rick Broering tweeted that there's been a report that's been filed within the University against Jalen Reynolds, after the initial findings by the report, there's been no status changed with the students involved, There will be a 4-5 week investigation needed to figure out what happened. Jalen will be playing..what's going on???:dunno:

I thope this some kind of sick joke. Really do not need to hear this right now.

[Jehoya]

I thope this some kind of sick joke. Really do not need to hear this right now.

sadly no...

[GoMuskies]

Fire Mack! The program is clearly out of control with all the shady characters he brings into it!

[Juice]

sadly no...

The alleged offense is not sexual in nature.

[D-West & PO-Z]

The alleged offense is not sexual in nature.

Hmm.. physical, then, fight with someone?

[Cheesehead]

that bitch ass punk had it coming! Free Jalen!!! ........Too soon?

[Jehoya]

The alleged offense is not sexual in nature.

phewww

[Juice]

Hmm.. physical, then, fight with someone?

That's all Rick posted on the pay board. I don't know if I'm violating their rules as far as this info goes but I thought it was important to post here so people don't jump to conclusions.

[GoMuskies]

Did any of these events take place at an establishment named Cooters?

[muskiefan82]

Did Jalen throw an elbow at Octavius Ellis out of the blue? Wait....I think I'm mixing something up.

[XU3232]

This sucks... really not what I wanted to see.

[muskieindent]

The alleged offense is not sexual in nature.

Just curious but how do you know this?

[xufan02]

Just curious but how do you know this?

It is off of a pay site.

[X-ROX]

WLW just reported on this also , but didn't catch accusation

[xavierj]

Just curious but how do you know this?

If it was do you really think they would play him if at all possibly true? Doubt it. They must know whatever it is that it's BS.

[ken redd]

Why would anyone try and fight Jalen?

[xudash]

I wonder if the alleged offense is academic in nature.

Ah, we get to sit around and wait for this to clear itself up. That's it for my conjecture.

[Xville]

If it was do you really think they would play him if at all possibly true? Doubt it. They must know whatever it is that it's BS.

I sure as hell hope so. This is the last thing the team needs right now...Jalen better have not done a damn thing

[X-ROX]

To get him in trouble.....

[ken redd]

To get him in trouble.....

It would be pretty sad as the report is it's another student... Hopefully it's nothing serious

[LadyMuskie]

Why would anyone try and fight Jalen?

To screw with him and the team the week of a huge game. Mind f%#$ery at its best.

[LadyMuskie]

I'm just throwing this out there, but has anyone kept tabs on Skinny Jeans McScarf who wrote those lovely op-ed pieces about the basketball team and its role on campus in the Newswire awhile back?!?! :wink:

[Masterofreality]

I trust CMack and the admins on this...... Unlike some others.

He's playing. Non- story.

[ken redd]

To screw with him and the team the week of a huge game. Mind f%#$ery at its best.

My intial post was just referring to the dude is jacked and i wouldn't mess with him no matter how much liquid courage i had in me.

[XU 87]

fight with someone?

That's what it sounds like. And I have no idea to what extent or what occurred. If something major happened, I doubt he would be playing on Thursday.

[muskieindent]

Mack has confirmed this but said he will still play.Either it's nothing serious or they are letting this play out before taking any action.Not a good situation reguardless.How much of a distraction will this be?

[Xville]

I trust CMack and the admins on this...... Unlike some others.

He's playing. Non- story.

It's great if he's playing but it's already now a distraction...something Jalen nor the whole team needed. Whether he did something or not, it's still a story unfortunately.

[Masterofreality]

I doubt that anyone will be giving this any thought at 10:17pm on Thursday night.

Non story.

[Wheelhouse]

Good times.

[outsideobserver11]

I wonder if the alleged offense is academic in nature.

Ah, we get to sit around and wait for this to clear itself up. That's it for my conjecture.

That could become a very bad thing if it turns into playing an academically ineligible player. Mack probably wouldn't take that risk if it was academic in my opinion.

[SemajParlor]

These scout message boards, Rick Broering, need to look themselves in the mirror. They are exploiting a college kid to get people to pay for their premium sites. It's not right.

[D-West & PO-Z]

That's what it sounds like. And I have no idea to what extent or what occurred. If something major happened, I doubt he would be playing on Thursday.

Yeah I am hearing it wasnt really a major incident and isnt expected to have many if any implications. Never know how the University will handle it though.

[Masterofreality]

That could become a very bad thing if it turns into playing an academically ineligible player. Mack probably wouldn't take that risk if it was academic in my opinion.

Not the end of a grading period. Can't be ineligible. Non story.

[THRILLHOUSE]

I don't really think it's going to be a distraction. Not like the players are gonna be thinking about it during practice or once the ball tips off on Thursday. I guess it could get annoying if the press tries to ask a bunch of questions about it during the next media day, but Mack will probably shut that down like he did today.

[Milhouse]

These scout message boards, Rick Broering, need to look themselves in the mirror. They are exploiting a college kid to get people to pay for their premium sites. It's not right.

That's not the case at all. Sorry that you want to know more but don't want to pay for it? There is no exploitation at all. It's information plain and simple.

[Chalmers0]

These scout message boards, Rick Broering, need to look themselves in the mirror. They are exploiting a college kid to get people to pay for their premium sites. It's not right.

Good, looks like we set the bar high for most ridiculous post of the day.

[blueblob06]

700WLW is mentioning this in their news updates that are every 30 minutes as if it's big news, even though it is very likely not.

We were all complaining earlier this week that no one is reporting on Xavier in the Sweet 16....this isn't the coverage we wanted!

[BMoreX]

semajParlor knows this was announced at a press conference right?

[DART87]

These scout message boards, Rick Broering, need to look themselves in the mirror. They are exploiting a college kid to get people to pay for their premium sites. It's not right.

Exactly why I cancelled after the whole Dez thing.

[StanleyOwnsYou]

These scout message boards, Rick Broering, need to look themselves in the mirror. They are exploiting a college kid to get people to pay for their premium sites. It's not right.

I'm fairly certain no one pays their money to read these type of stories. They pay more for the recruiting and inside access/connections Rick has to the staff and other sources. It just so happens Rick has a good source on this situation and is explaining everything before people start jumping to conclusions.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Its not that hard to figure out what the pay sites are reporting. I have never been to the site in my life and have 10 different people who also havent who are telling me what they are saying. You really dont need to even visit the site let alone buy anything to figure it out.

[SC in DC]

Sparlor, you need to get over yourself. We pay $ to get the latest news on X. RB reported that MACK announced it, and gave us some hi-lites of the announcement. You need to get the facts before "going off", just like we should all not rush to judgement on JR until the facts come out.

[danaandvictory]

These scout message boards, Rick Broering, need to look themselves in the mirror. They are exploiting a college kid to get people to pay for their premium sites. It's not right.

Heh, reporting exactly what the head coach says at a press availability is exploitation?

[TUclutch]

Exactly why I cancelled after the whole Dez thing.

If thats why you cancelled you and Semajparlor are both ridiculous. They are not exploiting anyone.


As for the incident, if it comes out nothing happened, the kid who falsely accused should face the same punishment Jalen would have if he had been guilty

[SemajParlor]

Heh, reporting exactly what the head coach says at a press availability is exploitation?

No, having live chats and offering exclusive information for pay is.

[Nocalmuskie]

These scout message boards, Rick Broering, need to look themselves in the mirror. They are exploiting a college kid to get people to pay for their premium sites. It's not right.

Dude, you couldn't be more wrong on this. Mack spoke about this publicly. Scout reported it and provided some context. Scout is usually very responsible, and frankly about the only place to get in-depth year-round Xavier coverage. I highly recommend it.

[SM#24]

I'm not going to rush to judgment; I'm going to wait for Leigh Ann Huggins to tweet

[SemajParlor]

Exactly why I cancelled after the whole Dez thing.

At least someone gets it.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

What the hell needs a 5 week investigation? A fight would take a day, and what kind of fool files a complaint about a fight.

[D-West & PO-Z]

What the hell needs a 5 week investigation? A fight would take a day, and what kind of fool files a complaint about a fight.

Nevermind

[BMoreX]

No, having live chats and offering exclusive information for pay is.

I guess Amazon Prime is exploitation too.

[OH.X.MI]

No, having live chats and offering exclusive information for pay is.

Pretty sure that's what all journalism is Parlor. I pay for my cable subscription to watch the news. I pay for my Enquirer subscription to read the paper. Just because Rick is the only reporter out there, aside from Shannon, that ever has any relevant Xavier info doesn't make it exploitation. It's a business. Like everything else in the world.

And I guarantee if Rick learned about this ahead of time he would wait to go public if X or Mack asked him too. He's withheld sensitive information before.

[bleedXblue]

Ok, someone that knows a student at X that lives on campus has to know more about what happened by now????

[ammtd34]

Its not that hard to figure out what the pay sites are reporting. I have never been to the site in my life and have 10 different people who also havent who are telling me what they are saying. You really dont need to even visit the site let alone buy anything to figure it out.

On this one, you're right. On other stuff, especially recruiting, there is stuff that doesn't make it here or elsewhere. If that's not your thing, that's fine. But there is definitely a ton of info over there that doesn't get over here or on twitter.

[bleedXblue]

I dont think it was a man.

Be careful. Shouldn't be posting unless you know for a FACT

[TUclutch]

At least someone gets it.

You're both absurdly wrong

[Chalmers0]

If Rick was really using this for exploitation like you claim, I guarantee that he would have had a story or tweet up about it hours ago when I'm sure he found out, not when Mack announced it publicly.

[GoMuskies]

I dont think it was a man.

Bruce Jenner?

[SemajParlor]

I appreciate his work. I'm allowed to have an opinion. I don't think it's responsible journalism to charge people to pay for gossip about college kids.

[SemajParlor]

Pretty sure that's what all journalism is Parlor. I pay for my cable subscription to watch the news. I pay for my Enquirer subscription to read the paper. Just because Rick is the only reporter out there, aside from Shannon, that ever has any relevant Xavier info doesn't make it exploitation. It's a business. Like everything else in the world.

And I guarantee if Rick learned about this ahead of time he would wait to go public if X or Mack asked him too. He's withheld sensitive information before.

So there's no legitimate concerns and criticisms with journalism and cable news now?

[BMoreX]

His last tweet was "Here's what's going on with Jalen Reynolds and Xavier basketball." Link to a pay site. Take your blinders off.

Spoiler: it's a thread exactly like this one, about the presser.

Get off your high horse.

[GoMuskies]

So there's no legitimate concerns and criticisms with journalism and cable news now?

Sure there are. But do you think you should get them for free?

[ArizonaXUGrad]

HAH!

Seriously, two days before sweet 16 and this? Massive bummer! So from the internet heroes on here it's a woman who filed the complaint and it's not sexual in nature.


Bruce Jenner?

[Nocalmuskie]

I appreciate his work. I'm allowed to have an opinion. I don't think it's responsible journalism to charge people to pay for gossip about college kids.

I what world is reporting news that the head coach PUBLICLY STATED "gossip" ... you are so wrong its not even funny

[XUFan09]

If Rick was really using this for exploitation like you claim, I guarantee that he would have had a story or tweet up about it hours ago when I'm sure he found out, not when Mack announced it publicly.
Yup. All Rick has pretty much said of significance beyond what Mack himself said in the press conference is essentially, "Hey, don't freak out thinking this is Dez, part 2."

And seriously, what person would finally be compelled to get a Scout subscription because of THIS information? That's just plain stupid.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Be careful. Shouldn't be posting unless you know for a FACT

I dont know anything for a fact, that is why I said think, I should have said heard. If the mods think that needs to come down they can take it down.

[SemajParlor]

I guess Amazon Prime is exploitation too.

No. Do you not understand the point about it be a University incident involving two college kids?

[xavierj]

Jalen is always getting blamed for this BS. Just like the Big East refs hitting him with techs. I bet he was in line for some food and some fat kid thought he was going after the last Twinkie. Jalen probably put his hands up and the kid flopped.

[TUclutch]

HAH!

Seriously, two days before sweet 16 and this? Massive bummer! So from the internet heroes on here it's a woman who filed the complaint and it's not sexual in nature.

I havent seen anyone say if it was a male or female who accused him. Heard from a friend it was a male.

[OH.X.MI]

So there's no legitimate concerns and criticisms with journalism and cable news now?

Sure. But I don't criticism them for doing their job and earning a living. Now if this was something like the University of Virginia Rolling Stone article... of course I'd have a huge problem with it. But it's not. The school came forward with it and I have no problem with what is quite frankly honest and careful reporting on what could be a sensitive subject.

[XUFan09]

I appreciate his work. I'm allowed to have an opinion. I don't think it's responsible journalism to charge people to pay for gossip about college kids.
No one is starting a subscription over this. No one. And no one with sense thinks that would actually happen. Rick knows a lot of subscribers follow him on Twitter, so tweets like that serve to basically say, "Hey, subscribers, you might want to check out the forum today."

[LadyMuskie]

So it was Bruce Jenner and Jalen on the Scout board with candlesticks? !?

And someone just texted me that coach is conversing with Tony the Freaking Tiger on Twitter. Where's the story on that?!?! Tony the Tiger, people!

[TUclutch]

No one is starting a subscription over this. No one. And no one with sense thinks that would actually happen. Rick knows a lot of subscribers follow him on Twitter, so tweets like that serve to basically say, "Hey, subscribers, you might want to check out the forum today."

This 100%. I dont get on the site constantly, but I do get on Twitter constantly. i saw his tweet so I went and looked.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Bruce Jenner?

Ha, that is great.

[RealDeal]

I filed it. He assaulted my eyeballs with those mad dunks on Saturday.

Sweet 16. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

[D-West & PO-Z]

On this one, you're right. On other stuff, especially recruiting, there is stuff that doesn't make it here or elsewhere. If that's not your thing, that's fine. But there is definitely a ton of info over there that doesn't get over here or on twitter.

Yeah I am sure there is. For some reason the recruiting info doesnt float my boat much, probably the only reason I dont go over there.

[danaandvictory]

Also, when the Dez situation occurred, there was actually more detailed descriptions of the incident on this site (in the supporters area) than was ever on the Scout board.

[xeus]

Pretty sure that's what all journalism is Parlor. I pay for my cable subscription to watch the news. I pay for my Enquirer subscription to read the paper. Just because Rick is the only reporter out there, aside from Shannon, that ever has any relevant Xavier info doesn't make it exploitation. It's a business. Like everything else in the world.

I pay for journalistic content too. But the Wall Street Journal doesn't get pissy if I share the information I read in their paper. Exclusive coverage is one thing; trying to prevent the dissemination of the content is something else entirely. And while we don't allow "copy and pastes" of his articles, I have no problem with anyone sharing the content of Scout's stories.

[TUclutch]

I pay for journalistic content too. But the Wall Street Journal doesn't get pissy if I share the information I read in their paper. Exclusive coverage is one thing; trying to prevent the dissemination of the content is something else entirely. And while we don't allow "copy and pastes" of his articles, I have no problem with anyone sharing the content of Scout's stories.

Also agree with this. You pay for easy access. What you do with that by word of mouth after should be free game. As strict as Rick(and some on here) act, he would be against me telling my brother or uncle who don't pay for his site. Sorry but thats not gonna happen.

[OH.X.MI]

I pay for journalistic content too. But the Wall Street Journal doesn't get pissy if I share the information I read in their paper. Exclusive coverage is one thing; trying to prevent the dissemination of the content is something else entirely. And while we don't allow "copy and pastes" of his articles, I have no problem with anyone sharing the content of Scout's stories.

Oh I don't either. I don't share the information out a personal, maybe misguided, sense of respect. But I would never tell another person to not share anything form that or any other site. Once information is out there it's free game in my opinion. Just up to whoever want's to share it.

[GoMuskies]

Do you guys share accounts of baseball games with only implied, oral consent from Major League Baseball?

You all are living on the edge!

[NY44]

Not a fan of the Scout business model. I get the recruiting piece. He busts his ass and gets premium information on recruits and prospects that no one else has. This is different. This is him being intentionally vague in 3 tweets and then linking his page. As some have pointed out, there was a press conference, so all the legitimate information is out there and anything else is hearsay and gossip. He basically advertises that he has secret info when he teases a story and then puts it behind a wall. He comes off like a cheap Chris Broussard in this scenario.

[mid major]

Yeah I am hearing it wasnt really a major incident and isnt expected to have many if any implications. Never know how the University will handle it though.

Hopefully, better than they did the Dez Wells situation.

[TUclutch]

Hopefully, better than they did the Dez Wells situation.

They already started off better than the Dez issue. Theyre letting him play while letting the facts come out. The guilty until proven innocent with Dez was an absolute joke

[pimpinthebox]

Hopefully, better than they did the Dez Wells situation.

Anything would be better than that dumpster fire. By all accounts (heard thus far on this board), I can't imagine this rivals that situation. I think we'd all agree that if it was a little dust-up WITH A GUY, this will iron itself out. If this occurred with a girl (again, a fight, nothing sexual), then that's another issue. But based on what Rick says, it's not in that territory.

Too many ifs and thens at this point. Let's play hoops.

[xeus]

Not a fan of the Scout business model. I get the recruiting piece. He busts his ass and gets premium information on recruits and prospects that no one else has. This is different. This is him being intentionally vague in 3 tweets and then linking his page. As some have pointed out, there was a press conference, so all the legitimate information is out there and anything else is hearsay and gossip. He basically advertises that he has secret info when he teases a story and then puts it behind a wall. He comes off like a cheap Chris Broussard in this scenario.

Agreed.

[Juice]

I appreciate his work. I'm allowed to have an opinion. I don't think it's responsible journalism to charge people to pay for gossip about college kids.

IT'S NOT GOSSIP MORON. That's what everyone has been telling you for about 20 posts. It's all information from Mack himself.

[xeus]

IT'S NOT GOSSIP MORON.

There is plenty of gossip on all the boards. But here at xavierhoops.com, it's free.

[SemajParlor]

IT'S NOT GOSSIP MORON. That's what everyone has been telling you for about 20 posts. It's all information from Mack himself.

Hey easy now, we don't all know that - it's intentionally placed behind a paywall, hence my original post.

[Juice]

Hey easy now, we don't all know that - it's intentionally placed behind a paywall, hence my original post.

Again, several people told you the information Rick provided was what Mack stated. But sure, keep making up shit about exploitation and gossip.

[xeus]

Again, several people told you the information Rick provided was what Mack stated. But sure, keep making up shit about exploitation and gossip.

Maybe he is speaking more in general terms about how those boards operate, and not being specific to this situation.

[muskieindent]

Bill Cunningham is reporting that it is not a big deal.Xavier is just covering themselves after the Wells problems.Does involve a woman but not any type of assault.Sounds like he'll be cleared .

[D-West & PO-Z]

Bill Cunningham is reporting that it is not a big deal.Xavier is just covering themselves after the Wells problems.Does involve a woman but not any type of assault.Sounds like he'll be cleared .

This is what I was hearing as well.

[xudash]

Bill Cunningham is reporting that it is not a big deal.Xavier is just covering themselves after the Wells problems.Does involve a woman but not any type of assault.Sounds like he'll be cleared .

I'm guessing he stepped in front of someone in line while trying to get a Coke at that fancy new soda machine they have in Fenwick Place.

I'm believing that life is coming to that.

[SemajParlor]

Maybe he is speaking more in general terms about how those boards operate, and not being specific to this situation.

Thank you. Seems like I really struck a nerve with some people. Didn't think my point was all that controversial.

[OH.X.MI]

Mo Egger - "there was an argument in a dormitory and, from what I've heard, absolutely nothing physical"

[Xville]

Bill Cunningham is reporting that it is not a big deal.Xavier is just covering themselves after the Wells problems.Does involve a woman but not any type of assault.Sounds like he'll be cleared .

if there is not any kind of assault then why the heck is this even public knowledge? ridiculous. because they had a shouting match?

[spursy]

Thank you. Seems like I really struck a nerve with some people. Didn't think my point was all that controversial.
It's definitely a touchy subject on here for some reason. Personally I think it's a waste of money and the way scout promotes itself is annoying but if people want to pay for it go ahead.

[SemajParlor]

It's definitely a touchy subject on here for some reason. Personally I think it's a waste of money and the way scout promotes itself is annoying but if people want to pay for it go ahead.

Yep, I'm slowly starting to realize that the ones who were offended are the ones that pay for Scout lol

[NY44]

Here's what happened with Jalen Reynolds and Xavier University: mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=442&f=4604&t=13756170 … (http://www.xavierhoops.com/showthread.php?29742-Jalen-Reynolds-Investigation)

[Masterofreality]

Bill Cunningham is reporting that it is not a big deal.Xavier is just covering themselves after the Wells problems.Does involve a woman but not any type of assault.Sounds like he'll be cleared .


if there is not any kind of assault then why the heck is this even public knowledge? ridiculous. because they had a shouting match?

"Bitch Set Me UP!!!"- Marion Barry

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[X-Fan]

I'm guessing he stepped in front of someone in line while trying to get a Coke at that fancy new soda machine they have in Fenwick Place.

I'm believing that life is coming to that.
I'm guessing, Jalen was like "Hey, I like your shoes", and she was like "Oh, I also like your shoes!"

That's why I stay out of complimenting shoes. Too risky.

[Xavier]

Here's what happened with Jalen Reynolds and Xavier University: mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=442&f=4604&t=13756170 … (http://www.xavierhoops.com/showthread.php?29742-Jalen-Reynolds-Investigation)

Honestly do we need posts like this? Its ridiculous.

[Fireball]

Mo Egger - "there was an argument in a dormitory and, from what I've heard, absolutely nothing physical"

Actually, this is precisely it. A friend sent me a cell phone video of the argument. Went exactly like this:

<<Jalen: I love Kit Kats! They're the best candy bar ever.
Other student: What? How can you love Kit Kats? They're not even really candy bars. Be a man and eat a Snickers!
Jalen: Snickers suck. Milky Ways are way better than Snickers!
Other student: *now in tears* How can you say that? My mother died in a horrible Milky Way incident! She was crushed by a box of Milky Ways that fell from a cargo plane in Albuquerque! You need a reflection session! I'm filing a report.>>

So now you all know.

Besides, everyone knows that Twix are the best candy bars.

[Juice]

Yep, I'm slowly starting to realize that the ones who were offended are the ones that pay for Scout lol

I'm simply offended by people who are told facts, make up some bullshit, are told more facts, then say, "Settle down. It's only an opinion."

[Caveat]

But did Jalen get a tech for this alleged conduct?

[NY44]

Honestly do we need posts like this? Its ridiculous.

Did you click the link? Pretty good stuff there. Free too.

[XUFan09]

I'm simply offended by people who are told facts, make up some bullshit, are told more facts, then say, "Settle down. It's only an opinion."

Yup. That's pretty much it. It's by no means exclusive to discussions of Scout either, though for some reason, a decent number of people on this board seem to have decided to take an uninformed stance on the subject. It's not for you, cool. That doesn't entitle you to make up crap to justify your position.

[SemajParlor]

I'm simply offended by people who are told facts, make up some bullshit, are told more facts, then say, "Settle down. It's only an opinion."

People on a message board telling me things about what other people are saying on a different message board = facts. Here in lies the problem.

[xeus]

Yup. That's pretty much it. It's by no means exclusive to discussions of Scout either, though for some reason, a decent number of people on this board seem to have decided to take an uninformed stance on the subject. It's not for you, cool. That doesn't entitle you to make up crap to justify your position.

What is the "uninformed stance" on the subject? I missed that part.

[NY44]

Yup. That's pretty much it. It's by no means exclusive to discussions of Scout either, though for some reason, a decent number of people on this board seem to have decided to take an uninformed stance on the subject. It's not for you, cool. That doesn't entitle you to make up crap to justify your position.

I'm simply offended by people who are told facts, make up some bullshit, are told more facts, then say, "Settle down. It's only an opinion."


You guys have plainly missed the point Xeus and Parlor have made. Glad to hear he only reported the facts, but when he vaguely teases out a story on twitter and then posts a private link it implies that his story has information he can't share on twitter.

[casualfan]

Man, this board gets pettier and pettier every time I open it up.

[GoMuskies]

Man, this board gets pettier and pettier every time I open it up.

Happily, there is a simple solution to that problem.

[XUFan09]

What is the "uninformed stance" on the subject? I missed that part.

Referring to Scout as just gossip and acting like they were trying to attract subscribers with this story (that second part was just stupid). The other times where people give the line, "It's just info you hear a couple days later in public forums." There's more like that, but it's definitely a case of people forming an opinion over something with which they don't have real familiarity.

I get if someone isn't really interested in the recruiting aspects or doesn't want to invest in the day-to-day analysis, breakdowns, podcasts, etc. Or if someone simply gave the answer with the previous board, "I don't care for Brian Snow." There are other legitimate reasons besides those, but at least they are legitimate reasons.

[xeus]

Referring to Scout as just gossip and acting like they were trying to attract subscribers with this story (that second part was just stupid). The other times where people give the line, "It's just info you hear a couple days later in public forums." There's more like that, but it's definitely a case of people forming an opinion over something with which they don't have real familiarity.

I get if someone isn't really interested in the recruiting aspects or doesn't want to invest in the day-to-day analysis, breakdowns, podcasts, etc. Or if someone simply gave the answer with the previous board, "I don't care for Brian Snow." There are other legitimate reasons besides those, but at least they are legitimate reasons.

Who said Scout is "just gossip"? And why wouldn't Scout try to attract subscribers? News media outlets do that all the time to get people to continue listening - it's called a tease. It's amazing to me how personally some of you take criticisms of Scout.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

I know, it's great isn't it.


Man, this board gets pettier and pettier every time I open it up.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Man, this board gets pettier and pettier every time I open it up.

Interesting that you usually only post when there is something negative going on. Where ya been the last two weeks? We did get to the BE finals and are now in the Sweet 16. I remember you having a lof of issues with the team and Mack and how things were going. Why not come on and post when things are going well and congratulate Mack and the team?

[NY44]

Happily, there is a simple solution to that problem.

Beat Arizona!!

[Nocalmuskie]

Please move the Scout discussion to another thread, and keep this one on the original topic.

[GoMuskies]

Beat Arizona!!

Oh, I plan to say some SUPER petty things on this board about Sean Miller after Xavier does that!

[Xville]

now this is all opinion and i have no idea what actually happened but here is what i find odd:

From the enquirer, the student filed a report with the university police over night last night.

So, if nothing physical happened...why would the student file a report? For a shouting match? I find that very odd. I really doubt someone files a police report even if it is a university police report just because Jalen might have called the person names. If that is indeed the case, grow a pair.

[GoMuskies]

now this is all opinion and i have no idea what actually happened but here is what i find odd:

From the enquirer, the student filed a report with the university police over night last night.

So, if nothing physical happened...why would the student file a report? For a shouting match? I find that very odd.

Maybe the student felt threatened. Actual touching is not required for assault.

[xeus]

Please move the Scout discussion to another thread, and keep this one on the original topic.

Sorry, the discussion about staying on topic can be found here: Miami, LH's Grammar, Name-calling, & MILFs (http://www.xavierhoops.com/showthread.php?5839-Miami-LH-s-Grammar-name-calling-amp-milfs&highlight=topic)

Thanks.

[Xville]

Maybe the student felt threatened. Actual touching is not required for assault.

Again all opinion but that's what im saying. For the ones who say this is a non-issue, it sure seems like an issue to me.

[XUFan09]

Who said Scout is "just gossip"? And why wouldn't Scout try to attract subscribers? News media outlets do that all the time to get people to continue listening - it's called a tease. It's amazing to me how personally some of you take criticisms of Scout.

Parlor kept referring to Broering's tweet as spreading gossip (laughable, considering it links to pretty much a parallel thread to this one, with all the same concerns).

Of course Scout wants to attract customers. This just isn't an example of that. When Rick links podcasts, breakdowns, recruiting articles, etc., that is partly in an effort to attract customers. No doubt about it. But it's absurd to think that this link is in the same boat. Simply from a marketing perspective, Scout was gaining no new subscribers from this story that weren't already joining up because of other content, because it isn't that type of customer base.

The thing with Scout and people supposedly "taking it personally" is that there a number of Scout subscribers on this board. When you get a lot of people with an actual familiarity of a service, you will get some of them speaking up whenever someone says blatantly untrue things about it. Why? Because such statements were false but presented as true on the message board, plain and simple. If you label is as "taking things personally," then to maintain logical consistency, I guess people are taking things personally whenever they respond to falsehoods on this board.

[XUFan09]

now this is all opinion and i have no idea what actually happened but here is what i find odd:

From the enquirer, the student filed a report with the university police over night last night.

So, if nothing physical happened...why would the student file a report? For a shouting match? I find that very odd. I really doubt someone files a police report even if it is a university police report just because Jalen might have called the person names. If that is indeed the case, grow a pair.

A third party filing a noise complaint, maybe?

[casualfan]

A third party filing a noise complaint, maybe?

The thing I can't figure out is why the University even mentioned anything publicly.

If it's something as simple as a noise complaint there's no reason to even bring it up.

[XU 87]

Sorry, the discussion about staying on topic can be found here: Miami, LH's Grammar, Name-calling, & MILFs (http://www.xavierhoops.com/showthread.php?5839-Miami-LH-s-Grammar-name-calling-amp-milfs&highlight=topic)

Thanks.

An all time great thread, caused by a simple grammatical error which the writer refused to acknowledge.

[Xville]

A third party filing a noise complaint, maybe?

maybe but the wording in the enquirer article didn't make it sound like it was a third party..just said student filed a complaint against Reynolds....i would think it would have said Reynolds and another student or something to that effect.

What pisses me off is that then it goes on to say "we can't disclose the nature of the report" or some bs like that because of student privacy laws. However, they can let it leak that Reynolds was the one who the complaint was against? That seems like bs to me.

[GoMuskies]

An all time great thread, caused by a simple grammatical error which the writer refused to acknowledge.

There are some great posters from that thread who have gone missing. Quitters.

[xeus]

Parlor kept referring to Broering's tweet as spreading gossip (laughable, considering it links to pretty much a parallel thread to this one, with all the same concerns).

Of course Scout wants to attract customers. This just isn't an example of that. When Rick links podcasts, breakdowns, recruiting articles, etc., that is partly in an effort to attract customers. No doubt about it. But it's absurd to think that this link is in the same boat. Simply from a marketing perspective, Scout was gaining no new subscribers from this story that weren't already joining up because of other content, because it isn't that type of customer base.

The thing with Scout and people supposedly "taking it personally" is that there a number of Scout subscribers on this board. When you get a lot of people with an actual familiarity of a service, you will get some of them speaking up whenever someone says blatantly untrue things about it. Why? Because such statements were false but presented as true on the message board, plain and simple. If you label is as "taking things personally," then to maintain logical consistency, I guess people are taking things personally whenever they respond to falsehoods on this board.

I think you're still taking it personally. I also think you are confusing "falsehood" with "opinion".

[casualfan]

maybe but the wording in the enquirer article didn't make it sound like it was a third party..just said student filed a complaint against Reynolds....i would think it would have said Reynolds and another student or something to that effect.

What pisses me off is that then it goes on to say "we can't disclose the nature of the report" or some bs like that because of student privacy laws. However, they can let it leak that Reynolds was the one who the complaint was against? That seems like bs to me.

Um, the school is the one who announced there was a complaint filed against Jalen...

[Xville]

Um, the school is the one who announced there was a complaint filed against Jalen...

Sorry probably one too many pronouns...what i meant was what pisses me off is that the school can't disclose the nature of the complaint because of student privacy laws, but they let it leak that Reynolds was the one who the complaint was against?

So the victim is protected but the person they filed the complaint against isn't. That seems odd to me and kinda bs.

[SemajParlor]

Let's go beat Zona.

[SemajParlor]

Parlor kept referring to Broering's tweet as spreading gossip (laughable, considering it links to pretty much a parallel thread to this one, with all the same concerns).

Of course Scout wants to attract customers. This just isn't an example of that. When Rick links podcasts, breakdowns, recruiting articles, etc., that is partly in an effort to attract customers. No doubt about it. But it's absurd to think that this link is in the same boat. Simply from a marketing perspective, Scout was gaining no new subscribers from this story that weren't already joining up because of other content, because it isn't that type of customer base.

The thing with Scout and people supposedly "taking it personally" is that there a number of Scout subscribers on this board. When you get a lot of people with an actual familiarity of a service, you will get some of them speaking up whenever someone says blatantly untrue things about it. Why? Because such statements were false but presented as true on the message board, plain and simple. If you label is as "taking things personally," then to maintain logical consistency, I guess people are taking things personally whenever they respond to falsehoods on this board.

Rick -is that you?

No in all seriousness I'm hesitant to even respond to this - because it's redundant. I can admit that I might be at fault for not making it clearer, but in all seriousness, you really could not be father removed from my original point. I'm happy some people out there, both in this thread and through messaging understand what I was trying to convey. I have no qualms with journalism or any personal beef with any particular site. I am a Xavier fan- I do have a life outside of it though. As far as the marketing strategy, I'm going to have to agree to disagree - however it seems be beating a dead horse at this point.

[casualfan]

Sorry probably one too many pronouns...what i meant was what pisses me off is that the school can't disclose the nature of the complaint because of student privacy laws, but they let it leak that Reynolds was the one who the complaint was against?

So the victim is protected but the person they filed the complaint against isn't. That seems odd to me and kinda bs.

The school didn't let anything leak. They announced it at a press conference. And if you think they did so without Jalen's consent you are crazy.

[blueblob06]

...what i meant was what pisses me off is that the school can't disclose the nature of the complaint because of student privacy laws, but they let it leak that Reynolds was the one who the complaint was against?

So the victim is protected but the person they filed the complaint against isn't. That seems odd to me and kinda bs.
Agreed, that is kinda screwed up.

Two main things I wanted to say:
1- GO MUSKIES! BEAT ARIZONA
2- I hope Xavier doesn't self-penalize themselves and give Arizona 2 FTs and the ball to start the game Thursday.

[XUFan09]

I think you're still taking it personally. I also think you are confusing "falsehood" with "opinion".

Lol how could you possibly know that without knowing me? "Still" also implies that I was initially, which also isn't true. This board is full of disagreement on one topic or another, but somehow this is one of the ones that gets labeled "personal"? What is it, the long posts? Because I have a history of long posts. This isn't new for me.

And no, I'm not mixing up falsehood and opinion. An opinion would concern the relative value of Scout. A falsehood would concern an inaccurate description of its contents.

[Chalmers0]

The thing I can't figure out is why the University even mentioned anything publicly.

If it's something as simple as a noise complaint there's no reason to even bring it up.

Xavier is just doing the smart thing and getting out in front. If someone within Xavier leaked somewhere that Reynolds was under investigation (regardless of the actual situation) and Xavier said nothing then they look even worse.

[The Coz]

To screw with him and the team the week of a huge game. Mind f%#$ery at its best.

You know it is possible to have an unexpressed thought.

[muskiefan82]

Xavier student who hails from Arizona: "Jalen, 'Zona gonna kick your a$$!!!"

Jalen: "Bitch, please!!"

Complaint filed.

None of the above comments reflect anything that may or may not be factual. Let's all move on. If Coach AND Sister Rose are cool with him playing, then I am too!!

[Masterofreality]

An all time great thread, caused by a simple grammatical error which the writer refused to acknowledge.

Raoul Duke put it the best:

"Hilarious
This is comedy gold."

[markchal]

Xavier didn't announce it in a press conference. Mack was asked about it in a sweet 16 presser. This wasn't held to be about Jalen, but at the same time Mack can't deny report exists if he's asked about it.

I've heard some mixed things on this so I hope some of what I'm hearing isn't true.

I think the fact that he will play says a lot, given our past.

[X-band '01]

An all time great thread, caused by a simple grammatical error which the writer refused to acknowledge.

Had LH just waited until Xavier joined the Big East, he would be factually correct at the time of posting.

Great rivalries to be sure when Xavier won't play 2 out of the 3 anymore.

[Wheelhouse]

The Scout detour in this thread makes me want to light myself on fire.

[Chalmers0]

Xavier didn't announce it in a press conference. Mack was asked about it in a sweet 16 presser. This wasn't held to be about Jalen, but at the same time Mack can't deny report exists if he's asked about it.

I've heard some mixed things on this so I hope some of what I'm hearing isn't true.

I think the fact that he will play says a lot, given our past.

False. Mack announced it BEFORE the Sweet 16 press conference.

[LadyMuskie]

False. Mack announced it BEFORE the Sweet 16 press conference.

Where?

[markchal]

False. Mack announced it BEFORE the Sweet 16 press conference.

Well thats counter to how it was originally reported.

[Masterofreality]

Had LH just waited until Xavier joined the Big East, he would be factually correct at the time of posting.

Great rivalries to be sure when Xavier won't play 2 out of the 3 anymore.

The word "Great" is somewhat overused today. :biggrin:

[Chalmers0]

Where?

Sorry I could have worded better. He announced it today, and then began the typical Sweet 16 press conference. It was not something he was asked about.

This is at least the impression I have under based on everything I've read.

[GoMuskies]

I'm thinking a 16 week suspension starting April 7th seems fair for whatever it is Jalen may or may not have done.

[Masterofreality]

We are only two weeks away from the offseason. If this thread is what is in store for 8 months, Lord help us all!

[X-band '01]

Here's a gem from Xeus's archived thread:


Outside of LH, Tonya Harding is the fattest, ugliest thing on this thread.

To think that years back I unleashed some Krazy swimmers while watching her wedding night video now makes me ill.

It is not premature to call LH a lock for the douchebag of the year award.

[GoMuskies]

We are only two weeks away from the offseason. If this thread is what is in store for 8 months, Lord help us all!

I think dash, vee and I will start a thread about Ohio State football and the Cleveland Browns shortly.

[markchal]

Sorry I could have worded better. He announced it today, and then began the typical Sweet 16 press conference. It was not something he was asked about.

This is at least the impression I have under based on everything I've read.

I read two different accounts that he was asked about it and commented once and didn't answer more questions on the topic.

[LadyMuskie]

Sorry I could have worded better. He announced it today, and then began the typical Sweet 16 press conference. It was not something he was asked about.

This is at least the impression I have under based on everything I've read.

I missed the very start of the press conference, so maybe he did. I know Matt was asked questions first about whether the freshmen were ready to play, etc. etc. Then Mack was asked about a report that was filed and his response was along the lines of Yes a report was filed. Jalen will still be on the plane. Jalen will still play. We don't believe there is anything behind it, but it will take 4 to 5 weeks to fully investigate. After Matt left the room and before they started asking Mack questions, Mack did not make a statement. So, if one was made it was made before Matt spoke.

Here's (http://www.fox19.com/story/28601307/xavier-university-basketball-player-jalen-reynolds#) an article from Fox 19 News and what Mack said when he was asked about it.

[Chalmers0]

I read two different accounts that he was asked about it and commented once and didn't answer more questions on the topic.

Then it looks like I was either misinformed or I misread something earlier today. My apologies.

[xufan2434]

Let's go beat Zona.

This

[Masterofreality]

I'd rather go back and debate whether "weaping" and "pleaze" are legitimate spellings of actual English language words.

Oh, and Miami is NOT a rival.....anymore.....of any kind.

[markchal]

Then it looks like I was either misinformed or I misread something earlier today. My apologies.

I don't think it matters much either way. From what I have heard, I'm unsure if I'd let him play, but it makes the most sense to trust Mack and his judgement since he's way closer to the situation than everyone else.

[GoMuskies]

Oh, and Miami is NOT a rival.....anymore.....of any kind.

I think we had a pretty spirited baseball game against them the other day.

[XUMIOH12]

I'm just throwing this out there, but has anyone kept tabs on Skinny Jeans McScarf who wrote those lovely op-ed pieces about the basketball team and its role on campus in the Newswire awhile back?!?! :wink:

Hahaha this is just what I was thinking, some dumb anti-basketball hipster just trying to ruin the basketball team's success.

[Masterofreality]

I think we had a pretty spirited baseball game against them the other day.

But we won- twice. #NoRival

[xu82]

Hahaha this is just what I was thinking, some dumb anti-basketball hipster just trying to ruin the basketball team's success.

The guy who'd rather be known for bad journalism than good basketball? That rings a bell.... sadly.

[paulxu]

I go out for the afternoon, come back, and this is the first thing that greets me.

Really?

[Masterofreality]

I go out for the afternoon, come back, and this is the first thing that greets me.

Really?

Miss an hour, you miss a lot...

[xavierj]

I don't think it matters much either way. From what I have heard, I'm unsure if I'd let him play, but it makes the most sense to trust Mack and his judgement since he's way closer to the situation than everyone else.

How could you not let him play? Just because someone filed a complaint, we are punishing you. Good luck with that. I think it's in chris and Xavier's best interest to let this play out and and have your guys back.

[X-band '01]

I go out for the afternoon, come back, and this is the first thing that greets me.

Really?

I'm sure the Transfers/LH's grammar 2.0 thread was second.

[_LH]

I'm sure the Transfers/LH's grammar 2.0 thread was second.

Do you ever add anything to a thread? Seriously.

[LadyMuskie]

How could you not let him play? Just because someone filed a complaint, we are punishing you. Good luck with that. I think it's in chris and Xavier's best interest to let this play out and and have your guys back.

I agree. Sweet Sixteens are not easily come by, and taking away this kind of opportunity from a player when the initial investigation brought up nothing seems grossly unfair.

[xeus]

Do you ever add anything to a thread? Seriously.

Child please.

[xu82]

Child please.

Gee, I wonder who would have been voted off the island? See you down the road Mr. Red Dots.

[LA Muskie]

Sorry I could have worded better. He announced it today, and then began the typical Sweet 16 press conference. It was not something he was asked about.

This is at least the impression I have under based on everything I've read.
According to Rick at Scout (in attendance), that is not true. It was in response to a question about whether Jalen would be eligible to play. (That said, he initially had the same recollection and only corrected himself after going back through it.) Rick said the question was not a surprise, because the story had already leaked.

[LA Muskie]

How could you not let him play? Just because someone filed a complaint, we are punishing you. Good luck with that. I think it's in chris and Xavier's best interest to let this play out and and have your guys back.

I think he's basing it on what he has heard. And hypothesizing on what he would do, if he was coach and what he heard was true. Hard to know what any of us would do, since he is (probably rightfully) keeping quiet about what he has heard.

[XU Cowbell Kid]

I'm guessing, Jalen was like "Hey, I like your shoes", and she was like "Oh, I also like your shoes!"

That's why I stay out of complimenting shoes. Too risky.

The man is holding me down on reps, so public reps to you for this! Hilarious.

[xubrew]

Rivals and Scout seem to be in the habit of basically stalking and pretty much annoying the hell out of 15, 16 and 17 year olds (as well as their families and friends) trying to find out whatever they can about them because a bunch of adults who don't know them and will never meet them want to know where they're going to go to college.

That's in general. I'm sure some of the sites are good (I guess), but if Rivals and Scout both disappeared from the internet tomorrow I don't think it would be any sort of huge loss for the sports world.

[RoseyMuskie]

Rivals and Scout seem to be in the habit of basically stalking and pretty much annoying the hell out of 15, 16 and 17 year olds (as well as their families and friends) trying to find out whatever they can about them because a bunch of adults who don't know them and will never meet them want to know where they're going to go to college.

That's in general. I'm sure some of the sites are good (I guess), but if Rivals and Scout both disappeared from the internet tomorrow I don't think it would be any sort of huge loss for the sports world.

From this sense, I agree, and I'm a Scout member. I do not read the recruiting articles, because frankly, I'm not going to waste my time on the decisions of teenagers. With that being said, I'm glad to pony up the monthly dues for the Xavier content that is provided, including pregame match ups, video breakdowns, podcasts, etc. I believe that material is top notch.

In terms of drawing people in with material like today, I agree with 09. I also realize that it will be all over Twitter or this board at some point.

$10 might a bit steep for some, but if the board were $2/$3/$4, I think 60-70% of members here would join after giving it a whirl.

[SemajParlor]

Rivals and Scout seem to be in the habit of basically stalking and pretty much annoying the hell out of 15, 16 and 17 year olds (as well as their families and friends) trying to find out whatever they can about them because a bunch of adults who don't know them and will never meet them want to know where they're going to go to college.

That's in general. I'm sure some of the sites are good (I guess), but if Rivals and Scout both disappeared from the internet tomorrow I don't think it would be any sort of huge loss for the sports world.

Whether it's handled responsibly or not, when you host sites that are marketed as having exclusive information on what unpaid young athletes are doing off the court - to make a profit - it's not that crazy to see why it can rub a bunch of people the wrong way.

[Xavier]

Whether it's handled responsibly or not, when you host sites that are marketed as having exclusive information on what unpaid young athletes are doing off the court - to make a profit - it's not that crazy to see why it can rub a bunch of people the wrong way.

I think I am ok with them doing recruiting base stuff. As in that might be the only reason I'd consider paying for a site like that. IMO, though, anything they post first that is big enough news will find its way to Xhoops in 3-4 days. Could be way off on that, just what I figure.

[Nocalmuskie]

I think I am ok with them doing recruiting base stuff. As in that might be the only reason I'd consider paying for a site like that. IMO, though, anything they post first that is big enough news will find its way to Xhoops in 3-4 days. Could be way off on that, just what I figure.

Please take this ridiculous conversation about Scout to another thread. Thanks

[waggy]

Please take this ridiculous conversation about Scout to another thread. Thanks

I personally don't GAF about Scout, or its supporters feelings.

Thanks.

[xavierj]

I think he's basing it on what he has heard. And hypothesizing on what he would do, if he was coach and what he heard was true. Hard to know what any of us would do, since he is (probably rightfully) keeping quiet about what he has heard.

So do you think he has differnt information than the university? I doubt xavier would put thier credibility on the line if they thought it would turn out to be major. My quess is that it's BS. It just came out, so I'm sure they know more.

[STL_XUfan]

So do you think he has differnt information than the university? I doubt xavier would put thier credibility on the line if they thought it would turn out to be major. My quess is that it's BS. It just came out, so I'm sure they know more.

The fault in that logic is that Xavier doesn't exactly have the best track record with their investigations (See Luther Smith and the decisions that got us into our current Title IX problems...and the fact that he is still employed at X).

Hopefully a thorough investigation is completed and the truth comes out, no matter what that truth is.

[LA Muskie]

So do you think he has differnt information than the university? I doubt xavier would put thier credibility on the line if they thought it would turn out to be major. My quess is that it's BS. It just came out, so I'm sure they know more.
I honestly have no idea. Maybe. Maybe not. Perhaps he knows someone who hasn't been interviewed yet. I haven't a clue. I'm not saying I agree with him. I'm just saying he was obviously expressing a mere personal opinion based on information he trusts -- and frankly not even taking the University to task over their decision which may be based on different information (or not).

I don't know why it would take 4-5 weeks to "investigate" something like this. But I can't get all that worked up about it given the utter lack of available information.

[D-West & PO-Z]

My personal opinion based off info I have received that I trust is this isnt going to amount to much and it is going to look silly that it ever turned in to this. Obviously however you never know because anyone who knows all the info and knows there isnt any other info to be known are people in power not going around and sharing that info, so there may be more out there that no one knows about, but from things I have heard this is kind of silly.

[LA Muskie]

My personal opinion based off info I have received that I trust is this isnt going to amount to much and it is going to look silly that it ever turned in to this. Obviously however you never know because anyone who knows all the info and knows there isnt any other info to be known are people in power not going around and sharing that info, so there may be more out there that no one knows about, but from things I have heard this is kind of silly.
I like D-West & Po-Z's sources better than Markchal's sources. And that's all I have to say about that.

[Juice]

Rivals and Scout seem to be in the habit of basically stalking and pretty much annoying the hell out of 15, 16 and 17 year olds (as well as their families and friends) trying to find out whatever they can about them because a bunch of adults who don't know them and will never meet them want to know where they're going to go to college.

That's in general. I'm sure some of the sites are good (I guess), but if Rivals and Scout both disappeared from the internet tomorrow I don't think it would be any sort of huge loss for the sports world.

You don't think those same teenagers want to deal with them because it gives them publicity? It's a give and take relationship.

[markchal]

So do you think he has differnt information than the university? I doubt xavier would put thier credibility on the line if they thought it would turn out to be major. My quess is that it's BS. It just came out, so I'm sure they know more.

I'm not claiming to have any secret inside sources, just that I've heard things that made me think differently about the situation than I did when the news broke.

And, if you read my post, I'm saying the same thing, that it makes the most sense to trust Mack on this. He probably knows the most, and if he thinks Jalen should play, then it probably isn't anything serious. Mack isn't stupid.

[xubrew]

You don't think those same teenagers want to deal with them because it gives them publicity? It's a give and take relationship.

Not really. They would still get attention from people who would annoy them a lot less. Most of them don't subscribe to Rivals or Scout, and neither do their peers, so I think most would be perfectly happy to just be left alone.

[LA Muskie]

Not the allegation. But glad to hear AZ fans are worried.

[ammtd34]

Wow, a random dude with a first post who has inside information.

[jhelmes37]

For your latest edition of "This is why the media landscape in 2015 sucks" - here's a fun post for you.

http://www.cincinnativseveryone.com/xavier-has-a-jalen-reynolds-problem/

Apparently, you just need an opinion, a lame-ass blog, and you can spew conjecture and dumb bullshit. Yes, I know it's a "UC" blog......but still........it's shitty.

[American X]

AnAnonymousPoster from Phoenix, AZ. Thanks for your contribution.

[X-man]

For your latest edition of "This is why the media landscape in 2015 sucks" - here's a fun post for you.

http://www.cincinnativseveryone.com/xavier-has-a-jalen-reynolds-problem/

Apparently, you just need an opinion, a lame-ass blog, and you can spew conjecture and dumb bullshit. Yes, I know it's a "UC" blog......but still........it's shitty.

The header on this "Cincinnati" sports blog says it all...Bengals, Reds, UC, college. Clearly this is being run by UC fans.

[RealDeal]

That's a really awful blog. Get real jobs guys.

[STL_XUfan]

For your latest edition of "This is why the media landscape in 2015 sucks" - here's a fun post for you.

http://www.cincinnativseveryone.com/xavier-has-a-jalen-reynolds-problem/

Apparently, you just need an opinion, a lame-ass blog, and you can spew conjecture and dumb bullshit. Yes, I know it's a "UC" blog......but still........it's shitty.

I love that her go to source inside of Xavier is a UC fan who happens to be a Xavier student (had a tweet that even Xavier students don’t want to watch Xavier basketball with a screen shot from the same account).

As far that the rumor posted early this morning, it appears that the inside source is a user in a reddit ncaa forum. The only thing that has come out that is interesting is the Xavier Police records show that the only open incident in the past couple days is a possible assault charge on 3/22 in the Commons.

This is a situation where the people who don’t know are talking and the people that are in the know are not. Hopefully, when the dust settles the correct decision was made as to Jalen’s eligibility.

[nuts4xu]

Based on the fact Xavier tossed Dez Wells, who wasn't arrested or indicted for his incident, I believe Xavier would have nailed Jalen Reynolds to a cross in the middle of the Gallagher Center if they had any reason. The fact he is playing should say a lot about how much BS this incident will turn out to be.

The school has demonstrated they will not take any chances with regards to assault charges, so what makes anyone think they would do a 180 and now sweep this issue under the rug? That isn't how Xavier handles things, we should have learned that much from the Dez Wells case.

This is a complete non issue.

[casualfan]

Based on the fact Xavier tossed Dez Wells, who wasn't arrested or indicted for his incident, I believe Xavier would have nailed Jalen Reynolds to a cross in the middle of the Gallagher Center if they had any reason. The fact he is playing should say a lot about how much BS this incident will turn out to be.

The school has demonstrated they will not take any chances with regards to assault charges, so what makes anyone think they would do a 180 and now sweep this issue under the rug? That isn't how Xavier handles things, we should have learned that much from the Dez Wells case.

This is a complete non issue.

I think there is two ways to look at this if you want to think about how the Dez situation might affect the handling of future incidents. There's the way you described, then there is the thought that given the fact they royally screwed up the Dez situation they will be more likely to be cautious and avoid jumping the gun in the future.

I think the fact they are using a 4-5 week timeline on the investigation points more towards the latter. That is not saying he did anything wrong, just that I wouldn't necessarily jump to any conclusions based on him playing.

Innocent until proven guilty and all that jazz.

[Juice]

Based on the fact Xavier tossed Dez Wells, who wasn't arrested or indicted for his incident, I believe Xavier would have nailed Jalen Reynolds to a cross in the middle of the Gallagher Center if they had any reason. The fact he is playing should say a lot about how much BS this incident will turn out to be.

The school has demonstrated they will not take any chances with regards to assault charges, so what makes anyone think they would do a 180 and now sweep this issue under the rug? That isn't how Xavier handles things, we should have learned that much from the Dez Wells case.

This is a complete non issue.

I agree with your point but one difference is that the Dez situation involved alleged sexual misconduct while Jalen's situation does not. I think that is important to consider when talking about why they are and can slow down this investigation.

[SlimKibbles]

I love that her go to source inside of Xavier is a UC fan who happens to be a Xavier student (had a tweet that even Xavier students don’t want to watch Xavier basketball with a screen shot from the same account).

As far that the rumor posted early this morning, it appears that the inside source is a user in a reddit ncaa forum. The only thing that has come out that is interesting is the Xavier Police records show that the only open incident in the past couple days is a possible assault charge on 3/22 in the Commons.

This is a situation where the people who don’t know are talking and the people that are in the know are not. Hopefully, when the dust settles the correct decision was made as to Jalen’s eligibility.

Here's the reddit link

http://www.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/comments/305jvz/jalen_reynolds_xavier_university_officials/.compact

I was only a grad student at X. For those that were undergrads at X, were rumors floating around amongst the student body about players basically a game of telephone?

[TUclutch]

Not really. They would still get attention from people who would annoy them a lot less. Most of them don't subscribe to Rivals or Scout, and neither do their peers, so I think most would be perfectly happy to just be left alone.

You're so wrong on this. I have personally known recruits from several area high schools while I was in high school and presently through friends. None of the guys(probably 50-60 over the last 7-8 years)have ever felt annoyed. They LOVE it. My friends in high school liked being able to give some info out and loved it even more when coaches from colleges showed up at school to meet with out team's coach. Might there be some who find it annoying? Sure. But I think you're greatly misjudging the situation.

[Milhouse]

Here's the reddit link

http://www.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/comments/305jvz/jalen_reynolds_xavier_university_officials/.compact

I was only a grad student at X. For those that were undergrads at X, were rumors floating around amongst the student body about players basically a game of telephone?

It's hard to know if its true, but definitely heard a lot of outrageous rumors that never turned anything up.

[xeus]

Apparently the police are in on the conspiracy also, as Jalen has not been charged. Obviously the cops are sweeping it under the rug because they are Xavier fans and want to see him play in the Sweet 16.

[Mel Cooley XU'81]

For those that were undergrads at X, were rumors floating around amongst the student body about players basically a game of telephone?

35 years ago: Yes. Literally. Land line.

[markchal]

Apparently the police are in on the conspiracy also, as Jalen has not been charged. Obviously the cops are sweeping it under the rug because they are Xavier fans and want to see him play in the Sweet 16.

I thought the complaint was filed to campus police and they are investigating it. Is this incorrect?

[SlimKibbles]

35 years ago: Yes. Literally. Land line.

And rotary style I bet!

[StanleyOwnsYou]

Apparently the police are in on the conspiracy also, as Jalen has not been charged. Obviously the cops are sweeping it under the rug because they are Xavier fans and want to see him play in the Sweet 16.

Ha, that'd be nice. However, anyone who has ever known even one player knows Chief Couch and his crew have NO SYMPATHY for the bball team. If anything, they are under a microscope by those guys. Now, some may think that is a good thing while others may not but I will say with 1000% conviction, XUPD does not give preferential treatment to the bball program.

[xeus]

I thought the complaint was filed to campus police and they are investigating it. Is this incorrect?

Jalen has not been criminally charged. You seem intent on making a mountain out of this molehill.

[Masterofreality]

Ha, that'd be nice. However, anyone who has ever known even one player knows Chief Couch and his crew have NO SYMPATHY for the bball team. If anything, they are under a microscope by those guys. Now, some may think that is a good thing while others may not but I will say with 1000% conviction, XUPD does not give preferential treatment to the bball program.

See Dedrick Finn and a freaking dog.

[markchal]

You seem intent on making a mountain out of this molehill.


How do you figure?

[xeus]

How do you figure?

How do I figure what?

[markchal]

How do I figure what?

That I'm making a mountain out of a molehill. I was asking a question.

[Masterofreality]

F$&@k this non-story.

Let's DO THIS!!!!

[Wheelhouse]

This whole thing sounds to me like "Uhhhhh, we got sued for blowing an investigation a few years ago and had to settle the lawsuit, so in this instance let's be outrageously thorough so we don't get sued again even if it seems like there's nothing there".

[bleedXblue]

This whole thing sounds to me like "Uhhhhh, we got sued for blowing an investigation a few years ago and had to settle the lawsuit, so in this instance let's be outrageously thorough so we don't get sued again even if it seems like there's nothing there".

How else would you suggest they handle it?

They blew it 3 years ago and got sued.

I would be cautious too.

[xeus]

Can we keep the rumors off the board?

Yes.

[RealDeal]

Yes.

Thank you.

[markchal]

It makes sense to keep that stuff off the board. And it's not like there aren't plenty of other avenues where one could hear those rumors anyway.

[nuts4xu]

This is a complete non story. Anyone getting worked up over this, needs to pop a Xanax and chill the fuck out.

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/250x250/55943439.jpg

[pimpinthebox]

The one person we all know who that applies to (getting worked up/Xanax) isn't even sweating this news. That should tell us all something.

[Wheelhouse]

How else would you suggest they handle it?

They blew it 3 years ago and got sued.

I would be cautious too.

Please feel free to show me where I stated I have an issue with it being handled like that. I'll wait.

[gladdenguy]

Nothing to see here. Delete this thread.

I will be glad to talk about the 2 c&nts who have the last name Huggins and were tweeting about my main man Dez!!!!!

[SlimKibbles]

It's funny. The most active folks on Twitter commenting about this whole thing are sUCks fans. Go figure.

[Cheesehead]

I have a friend who has a friend who saw Jalen at 31 Flavors last night.....

[XBR1]

Nothing to see here. Delete this thread.

I will be glad to talk about the 2 c&nts who have the last name Huggins and were tweeting about my main man Dez!!!!!

Bingo.

Chuggins should be proud of his daughter. What a disgrace. Is it a requirement at UC in order to be head men's basketball coach your family needs to have no class?

[SemajParlor]

I have a friend who has a friend who saw Jalen at 31 Flavors last night.....

Do people actually call it 31 Flavors?

[XUFan09]

For your latest edition of "This is why the media landscape in 2015 sucks" - here's a fun post for you.

http://www.cincinnativseveryone.com/xavier-has-a-jalen-reynolds-problem/

Apparently, you just need an opinion, a lame-ass blog, and you can spew conjecture and dumb bullshit. Yes, I know it's a "UC" blog......but still........it's shitty.

I hope not many clicked on that link, honestly. I did initially before thinking better of it and cancelling it before it loaded. Blogs like that thrive off page views, where if they end up getting enough consistently they can generate a little ad revenue. No need to encourage embarassing blog practices, and I'll just take JHelmes' word that it was a bunch of bullshit.

Sidenote: So _LH is banned again? Kinda amusing. Was it due to trolling XBand over multiple threads lol?

[Masterofreality]

_LH was banned for horrific spelling.

[STL_XUfan]

_LH was banned for horrific spelling.

You are banning people for that now? Shit, I'm screwed.

[X-band '01]

LH sacrificed himself so Xavier could win tomorrow night. There's no other explanation.

[xeus]

It makes sense to keep that stuff off the board. And it's not like there aren't plenty of other avenues where one could hear those rumors anyway.

I agree that it makes sense to keep potentially harmful rumors about Xavier student athletes off this board.

[Masterofreality]

You are banning people for that now? Shit, I'm screwed.

No, _LH misspells and has bad grammar then won't retract when called out.

There is an "edit" feature on this board, you know.

[markchal]

I agree that it makes sense to keep potentially harmful rumors about Xavier student athletes off this board.

And I agree with your agreeing of my agreeing with you.

[NY44]

_LH was banned for horrific spelling.

You banned LH?? I'm kind of upset by that. He's always good entertainment.

[Masterofreality]

You banned LH?? I'm kind of upset by that. He's always good entertainment.

No, Brothers Amex and Xeus did the honors.

I'm merely a caraway seed in the bakery of life.

[xeus]

And I agree with your agreeing of my agreeing with you.

When all this is over we should get an apartment together. (no homo)

[SlimKibbles]

I hope not many clicked on that link, honestly. I did initially before thinking better of it and cancelling it before it loaded. Blogs like that thrive off page views, where if they end up getting enough consistently they can generate a little ad revenue. No need to encourage embarassing blog practices, and I'll just take JHelmes' word that it was a bunch of bullshit.

Sorry for posting it. I didn't know that. I typically never go out to reddit for anything. Was curious about what was said though and thought I'd share to give others the opportunity to read it too.

[LadyMuskie]

When all this is over we should get an apartment together. (no homo)

Be sure to invite Jalen to the housewarming to thank him for bringing you two together!

[XUFan09]

Sorry for posting it. I didn't know that. I typically never go out to reddit for anything. Was curious about what was said though and thought I'd share to give others the opportunity to read it too.

I'm referring to the blog link, not the reddit link you put up. Reddit doesn't have the same motivations as blogs in terms of page views.

[The Coz]

Nothing to see here. Delete this thread.

I will be glad to talk about the 2 c&nts who have the last name Huggins and were tweeting about my main man Dez!!!!!

They've apparently never heard of Lou Banks.

[gladdenguy]

They've apparently never heard of Lou Banks.

Or the 25 or so rapists Huggins has had on his roster over the years.