March Madness Thread

[xu82]

It's crazy that they're 5-12 right now. Not just the percentage but the number of attempts too. Their ratio of 3PA to FGA is 30.5%, yet so far three-point attempts make up 60.0% of their total field goal attempts.

Were you a stats major? English lit is a long shot.

[GoMuskies]

It's crazy that they're 5-12 right now. Not just the percentage but the number of attempts too. Their ratio of 3PA to FGA is 30.5%, yet so far three-point attempts make up 60.0% of their total field goal attempts.

I hadn't seen their white guy when I posted. That guy can clearly shoot.

[XUFan09]

Were you a stats major? English lit is a long shot.

Ha! I have handy season stats with Kenpom.

[BandAid]

SDSU's shooting has been absurd so far. St. John's need to stay aggressive, and they need to rebound. The second chance points are what will hurt them more in the long run more than the three attempts.

[xu82]

Ha! I have handy season stats with Kenpom.

Does that come with a pocket protector?

:-)

[Retire33]

Where has this SDSU offense come from?


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[XUFan09]

I hadn't seen their white guy when I posted. That guy can clearly shoot.

Not good, 30.3% on the year, but then Polee is 25.4% on the year, so clearly today it doesn't matter.

[XUFan09]

Does that come with a pocket protector?

:-)

:-P

[XUPhilly04]

Sir'Dominic is damn good though. Any chance he ends up in the NBA? He certainly has the athleticism.

For who teams take in the 2nd round, he may have a chance. Definitely will be on a summer league team. He's athletic, great handle, good physical defender. He'll never to coast to coast like he does now in the NBA, but could be role player off the bench.

[XUFan09]

SDSU's shooting has been absurd so far. St. John's need to stay aggressive, and they need to rebound. The second chance points are what will hurt them more in the long run more than the three attempts.

Good call. I think SDSU's shooting will cool off, but St. John's can't let them still get points after that by not boxing out. The question is probably more whether St. John's can score enough to overcome this initial onslaught and the inevitable droughts that will occur up against this elite defense.

[xu82]

:-P

Can you describe how you feel?

(JK - awesome info)

[MADXSTER]

Please watch. St John's has no offense. They weave at the top of the key then at some point go one on one. Good team defense but gawd awful offensive sets.

[XUPhilly04]

St. Johns just needs to keep it close to the half to get a little rest and get Rasheen Jordan back in the game. He played only 2 minutes due to quick fouls. Could be a huge spark to the offense.

[XUFan09]

Can you describe how you feel?

(JK - awesome info)

Ha, thanks.

[xu82]

Dayton/Providence now shooting for 10:53 tipoff? Screw those left coast fair weather fans! I have limits....

[XUFan09]

Sometimes these guys just don't even care to work together on offense. Jamal Branch tried to direct some offensive flow, and it looked like Pointer just ignored him and stood there. Then Harrison took a 33-footer that he luckily made.

St. John's needs transition offense to score, but SDSU is really good about getitng back in good position to cut it off most of the time.

[XUPhilly04]

Please watch. St John's has no offense. They weave at the top of the key then at some point go one on one. Good team defense but gawd awful offensive sets.

If I remember correctly, they have one of the worst averages for assists per game in the country. They don't pass the ball. Whoever gets the rebound tries to take it the other way.

[XUFan09]

If I remember correctly, they have one of the worst averages for assists per game in the country. They don't pass the ball. Whoever gets the rebound tries to take it the other way.

Their assist-to-FG ratio is just under 50%, ranked 257th. This is top 25 offensive talent that is ranked 61st in offensive efficiency. And they are choosing to be the worst version of that selfish, dumb-shot offense on a day when SDSU's offense is uncharacteristically good.

[xu82]

VD vs Providence being promoted now. VD should be discouraged at all costs.

[XUFan09]

VD vs Providence being promoted now. VD should be discouraged at all costs.

If Providence wins, I got that whole region correct!

[XUFan09]

This guy has made fifteen threes the entire year. So far tonight against St. John's, he has five. That's ridiculous.

[xsteve1]

This guy has made fifteen threes the entire year. So far tonight against St. John's, he has five. That's ridiculous.

He used to play for St. John's and now is probably going to put them out of the tourney.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Cmon Friars!!!

[Jesuit4Life]

Refshow already less than 1 min in.

[D-West & PO-Z]

WOW! Dunn with 2 fouls. Shit.

[XUFan09]

He used to play for St. John's and now is probably going to put them out of the tourney.

Yup. The whole team has gone into video game mode.

[XUFan09]

WOW! Dunn with 2 fouls. Shit.

Same thing happened to Rysheed Jordan really quickly.

[xu82]

If Providence wins, I got that whole region correct!

So, you're against VD. I concur.

[XU Cowbell Kid]

I'm trying to stream the Providence/Dayton game while I watch the SJU game on TV but I'm having problems. Anyone else having issues getting that game?

[waggy]

Fine for me.

[XUFan09]

There have been 10 turnovers already this game. My eyes are bleeding.

[xsteve1]

Providence looks like crap and Henton play awful.

[BandAid]

Providence looks bad on offense with Dunn out. Credit to vd's defense. Gotta take care of the ball.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Yeah Henton needs to get it going.

[xu82]

First one to 20 wins?

[D-West & PO-Z]

Here comes Dunn.

[BandAid]

Pretty much everything going vd's way so far, and they only have 1 fg.

[spursy]

Welp this hideous. Gottlieb + ref show + dayton...what could one expect?

[paulxu]

How can you play 8 minutes and only have a 6-5 score?

[paulxu]

Now 8-5, and 6 of the 8 are FTs? Is Providence in the gym?

[D-West & PO-Z]

This is easily the worst I have seen Providence play. Both these teams look horrific right now.

[XUFan09]

Now 8-5, and 6 of the 8 are FTs? Is Providence in the gym?
Cartwright usually does a good job backing up Dunn. Tonight, not so much. If not all him though.

[XUFan09]

This is easily the worst I have seen Providence play. Both these teams look horrific right now.
I imagine this is how it must have felt to watch them against Brown in that loss.

[XUFan09]

A Providence field goal!

[paulxu]

I'm holding Go personally responsible if vd wins this cluster***k

[Masterofreality]

My Gawd. Providence. Really?

The only redeeming value here is that vd is so bad that they are letting the Friars hang around. C'mon Providence. Make a run before the half.

[paulxu]

I think vd brought their refs over for the game.

[BandAid]

free throws are the difference in the game. vd has made 7, providence hasn't been to the line.

[XUFan09]

How many field goal attempts have rattled in and out for Providence?

[BandAid]

all but three of them

[BandAid]

providence can't look at a vd player without it being called a foul

[XUFan09]

all but three of them
Yep. They keep looking like they're going in, then never mind.

[XUFan09]

providence can't look at a vd player without it being called a foul
Pollard going to the line now is a good example of that.

[paulxu]

This is nuts. Half of vd's points are FT's. Prov hasn't been to the line once.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Henton cant buy a bucket.

[XUFan09]

A foul called on UD?!?! WHAT?!?!?

[D-West & PO-Z]

Charge!

[XUFan09]

Pretty straightforward offensive foul. Was called on Stain yesterday too.

[XUFan09]

Charge!
But we have to protect the "former walk-on" narrative!

[BandAid]

Hey! Providence gets a trip to the line! It's an NCAA miracle!

[Blue Blobs Bro]

Kris Dunn picking up his teams slack .

[XUFan09]

St. John's game is finishing how I feared. They could never bridge the deficit created by that unusual offensive onslaught because of SDSU's defense.

[GoMuskies]

I'm holding Go personally responsible if vd wins this cluster***k

I'll take it. I just haven't been as impressed with PC as a lot of you guys. Probably goes back to the fact I watched that Brown game.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Wow that block was sick

[XUFan09]

Wow that block was sick
Yup.

[paulxu]

Cheaters!

[D-West & PO-Z]

Henton finally

[XUFan09]

Go 2 for 1!

[paulxu]

All the 8's won. For some reason, without really thinking about the seeds, I had all the nine's winning.

Dumb ass.

[XUFan09]

Go 2 for 1!
Well, the first possession ended in a turnover but they got it!

[paulxu]

vd would be down 8 if not for 10 FT's.

[XUFan09]

I'm okay with that finish, after that ugly basketball.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I'm okay with that finish, after that ugly basketball.

ya friars cant play much worse

[GoMuskies]

I'm feeling a two point PC win.

[paulxu]

Does that get you $ and a BE win?

[XU3232]

Providence better come out ready to play in the 2nd half and take care of the ball.

I can't watch Dayton win this game.

[GoMuskies]

Does that get you $ and a BE win?

Yes. One point would be acceptable, too.

[Masterofreality]

Thankfully Dunn still has only 2 fouls and Henton couldn't play much worse.

Guard Sibert and the Cryers really have no one else.

[GoMuskies]

Gonzaga not out of the woods yet.

[BandAid]

i hope you lose money. nothing personal.

[GoMuskies]

This big fat kid for the Bizen is having a day.

[MADXSTER]

This big fat kid for the Bizen is having a day.

Don't be making fun of my boy Rick Broering

[GoMuskies]

Is Rick fat?

[MADXSTER]

Is Rick fat?

No. Just Husky. That's why hot sportscasters dig him. Who was that chick who was hanging with him all night?

[GoMuskies]

Arvydas' s kid is going to be a monster. I wonder how long he will stay at Gonzaga.

[Masterofreality]

It would help PC if Bentil could give them something. He's been playing really well up to now.

By the way. Why the hell did they schedule an eastern time zone game at 10:45? Just stupid.

[GoMuskies]

Yeah, would have made more sense for Columbus and Seattle to trade.

[GoMuskies]

How did they miss that travel. Lol.

And why are they not bothering to guard Siebert?

[Masterofreality]

vd is like dog crap on your shoe. You try to scrape it off, but it won't go away...

....and it stinks.

[xsteve1]

PC better get their asses in gear or this is going to be a real bad day for the league.

[xavierj]

If Providence doesn't get out of the zone and find a way to take advantage of size they are going down. Henton should be able to score at will in the lane but all he wants to do is chuck threes. Providence is also leaving the corners wide open. Cooley's game plan has been awful and Archie is undressing him.

[BandAid]

They went zone to protect Dunn and it had a good run, but vd has figured it out. They need to switch back to man.

[xsteve1]

Friars just don't have it tonight. Dayton playing good defense has a lot to do with it.

[MADXSTER]

Forcing Dayton to shoot from the outside.

[xavierj]

They went zone to protect Dunn and it had a good run, but vd has figured it out. They need to switch back to man.

Dayton is 12 of 18 since providence went zone. Wonder if Cooley is aware of that.

[GoMuskies]

I don't get the Indiana/Maryland commercial. How is it that Chuck was supposed to drive to Indy and it's only at this moment that the others realize they're in Maryland?

[xavierj]

Dayton now 14 of last 21 and Providence refuses to switch up.

[xsteve1]

Basically ballgame.

[BandAid]

Dayton is 12 of 18 since providence went zone. Wonder if Cooley is aware of that.

And they're something like 11 of the last 13. The first couple of possessions it was alright. Now it is far from alright. I guess they're afraid of vd's dribble drive capabilities.

[Xavgrad08]

Dayton looking tough. I really can't wait for Archie to leave Dayton. He has instilled a confidence in that program that is annoying.

[waggy]

I got the Friars in the FF. C'MON.

[Xville]

The truth of the matter is Archie is a helluva coach and is smarter than 95% of the coaches out there. Providence can't shoot and hasn't been able to all year...collapse the defense and they can't win

[Masterofreality]

If Providence doesn't get out of the zone and find a way to take advantage of size they are going down. Henton should be able to score at will in the lane but all he wants to do is chuck threes. Providence is also leaving the corners wide open. Cooley's game plan has been awful and Archie is undressing him.

Correct. They are just giving the game to the Cryers by playing zone. Takes their aggressiveness away. Surprising that Cooley is coaching such a poor game.

[X-Fan]

Agree they need to switch out of zone, but they're also screwing thrmselves on offense. They need to quit rushing everything. Hard to get a rebound if you shoot when no one is under the basket. Come on Providence!

[xsteve1]

UDump will probably beat Oklahoma as well.

[Strange Brew]

Did Gottlieb graduate from VD after being tossed from ND? He's calling the game as such.

[GoMuskies]

Dayton looking tough. I really can't wait for Archie to leave Dayton. He has instilled a confidence in that program that is annoying.

I'm not too worried about it. Two years in a row as an 11 seed and they'd have been out in the play in if Boise didn't poop down their legs.

[Strange Brew]

I'm not too worried about it. Two years in a row as an 11 seed and they'd have been out in the play in if Boise didn't poop down their legs.

Great home cookin' going on in Colunbus. Bet it tastes and smells like sewage.

[LA Muskie]

I picked Buffalo over WVU in my bracket. Actually, I picked them in the Sweet 16, figuring there's frequently at least one double-digit seed in the Sweet 16, so it's a high-risk-high-reward bet to pick one there in your bracket.

Edit: I also have Valpo over Maryland in that pod. If I get this right, I look like a genius lol. If I'm dead wrong, no big deal :-P
I picked bot of those as well. Oh well...

[GoMuskies]

Damn, Gillen was PC's coach the last time they won an NCAA game. Crazy.

[XUFan09]

I hate this game.

[xsteve1]

Damn, Gillen was PC's coach the last time they won an NCAA game. Crazy.

That's actually pretty sad.

[Masterofreality]

Boy, this is a baaaaaaaaaaaad loss for the league. Bad.

[BandAid]

When Henton is off Providence is very average.

[xsteve1]

What Archie has done at that dump is amazing. He gets a lot out of not much.

[GoMuskies]

Boy, this is a baaaaaaaaaaaad loss for the league. Bad.

Eh, it happens. If we get three through tomorrow it's not that big a deal. Unless you're a PC fan.


Not over, though.

[Xville]

Providence needs to recruit some shooters....

[waggy]

Boy, this is a baaaaaaaaaaaad loss for the league. Bad.


This is a little dramatic. UD has more post season experience and has the crowd.

[xavierj]

Dayton was tougher, faster, stronger, wAnted it more and were way better coached. Those Miller boys can coach. Archie sounds just like Sean too.

[X-Fan]

When Henton is off Providence is very average.
And he's playing horrible. I feel bad for him. Looks like he has 0 confidence. Ugh.

[GoMuskies]

Wow, that's some awful reffing.

[Xville]

Dayton was tougher, faster, stronger, wAnted it more and were way better coached. Those Miller boys can coach. Archie sounds just like Sean too.

Agreed...Archie can coach his behind off.

[xavierj]

What Archie has done at that dump is amazing. He gets a lot out of not much.

He has 7 players, one of which is a volleyball player walk-on. Best job I have ever seen.

[Masterofreality]

What Archie has done at that dump is amazing. He gets a lot out of not much.

Without Jordan Sibert, that team is not good. I can't believe that coaches don't tell their players to never leave him.

[XUFan09]

Good example of a technical making things worse.

[BandAid]

refs need to get off their knees

[Xavgrad08]

Wow, that's some awful reffing.

That might be the worst technical call I have ever seen. Really bad

[GoMuskies]

I wanna see Archie coach a season where his team doesn't end up a double digit seed before he is anointed the next coming.

[X Factor]

Henton has been awful.

[xsteve1]

I wanna see Archie coach a season where his team doesn't end up a double digit seed before he is anointed the next coming.

Really all that matters is what you do in the tournament. It shouldn't be that way but it is.

[xuwillie]

Love the millers. Can flat out coach

[XUFan09]

Dayton really has the perfect defenders to match up with Henton. It still doesn't make this okay.

[Xville]

I wanna see Archie coach a season where his team doesn't end up a double digit seed before he is anointed the next coming.

Yeah I mean he's only been to an elite eight, won 25 games this year with no one taller than 6'6...you're right he still needs to prove it. Give me a breqk.. the guy can coach

[Strange Brew]

This is a little dramatic. UD has more post season experience and has the crowd.

And the refs. Especially early on.

[GoMuskies]

Really all that matters is what you do in the tournament. It shouldn't be that way but it is.

That's the most important thing, no doubt. But you can't consistently win in the tournament as an 11 seed.

[xsteve1]

What an embarrassing loss by Providence. Just got their asses handed to them.

[OTRMUSKIE]

I am shocked at this. Archie Miller might be one of the best coaches right now. Actually he is one of the best coaches. Nobody taller than 6'6 and they are winning? Indiana is about to get one hell of a coach.

[Masterofreality]

I never thought that Cooley would coach such a horrible game and his players would perform so poorly.

PC going to a zone just played right into vd's hands.

[xavierj]

I wanna see Archie coach a season where his team doesn't end up a double digit seed before he is anointed the next coming.

Well if he didn't have to play a walk on with only 7 players available, he probably is a little higher seeded than 11. They only lose Seibert so I would expect them to be strong again next year.

[profson]

Hurts to say it but the defenders on both Henton and Dunn have played spectacularly. Almost every shot was contested or required a superior move.

[GoMuskies]

Well if he didn't have to play a walk on with only 7 players available, he probably is a little higher seeded than 11. They only lose Seibert so I would expect them to be strong again next year.

He recruited that team. No one to blame but himself for only having 7 guys.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Well if he didn't have to play a walk on with only 7 players available, he probably is a little higher seeded than 11. They only lose Seibert so I would expect them to be strong again next year.

Seibert is the reason why they won as many games this year. If Archie leaves and I think he does VD might slip a little next year. Archie has a good thing at Dayton but that money that Indiana or Texas will offer might be too much to turn down.

[XUFan09]

Well if he didn't have to play a walk on with only 7 players available, he probably is a little higher seeded than 11. They only lose Seibert so I would expect them to be strong again next year.
Fair or not, I find it funny that a lot of Xavier fans would not accept that as an appropriate excuse if it was Chris Mack.

[GoMuskies]

So now Henton will get hot. And it won't matter.

[xavierj]

Hurts to say it but the defenders on both Henton and Dunn have played spectacularly. Almost every shot was contested or required a superior move.

Yeah Dayton had a great gameplan. Ed Cooley didn't seem to be ready.

[Masterofreality]

Well if he didn't have to play a walk on with only 7 players available, he probably is a little higher seeded than 11. They only lose Seibert so I would expect them to be strong again next year.


He recruited that team. No one to blame but himself for only having 7 guys.

Sibert will be gone, and so will Archie. He's smart enough not to turn down a big money job after these last two years.

[BandAid]

He recruited that team. No one to blame but himself for only having 7 guys.

If I were a big time program that'd be my one pause. They have 7 scholarship players. And one's a transfer and another is a former walk-on. Archie doesn't have a track record yet of recruiting at a high level. But if you can get your team to perform like this, who cares about recruits?

[XUFan09]

Hurts to say it but the defenders on both Henton and Dunn have played spectacularly. Almost every shot was contested or required a superior move.
Good defensive team that's even better when they don't have to worry about the bigs being threats. Bentil can be but wasn't really tonight.

[GoMuskies]

If I were a big time program that'd be my one pause. They have 7 scholarship players. And one's a transfer and another is a former walk-on. Archie doesn't have a track record yet of recruiting at a high level. But if you can get your team to perform like this, who cares about recruits?

It matters. That's why they're an 11 seed.

[XUFan09]

So now Henton will get hot. And it won't matter.
Yup.

[BandAid]

I think the worst part of this is that vd fans will now think they deserve an invitation to the Big East. To which I reply: No. Fuck you.

[XUFan09]

Dunn is gone IMO. Injury history makes it too risky not to enter the draft.

[GuyFawkes38]

I honestly have no idea. Does Archie have a great assistant to turn the team over when he inevitably leaves. I'm greatful for Matta for finding Miller.

[GoMuskies]

Dunn is gone IMO. Injury history makes it too risky not to enter the draft.

They'd better have a huge recruiting class coming. Or Cooley better be excellent at resume writing.

[xsteve1]

If I were a big time program that'd be my one pause. They have 7 scholarship players. And one's a transfer and another is a former walk-on. Archie doesn't have a track record yet of recruiting at a high level. But if you can get your team to perform like this, who cares about recruits?

It ain't easy recruiting at the dump. I mean guys are going to go to X, UC and OSU before they even consider going there.

[Jesuit4Life]

Well, at least no one was awake to see it.

[BandAid]

It ain't easy recruiting at the dump. I mean guys are going to go to X, UC and OSU before they even consider going there.

Not to mention the Indiana and Kentucky schools not far away.

[BandAid]

They'd better have a huge recruiting class coming. Or Cooley better be excellent at resume writing.

Looks like they got a four person class coming in. All rated as three stars. I don't think Cooley is anywhere close to a hot seat personally, but I don't exactly have a pulse on their program.

[XUFan09]

They'd better have a huge recruiting class coming. Or Cooley better be excellent at resume writing.
They have a lot of good young players right now, so they should at least be a solid team. Maybe they'll be recipients of the Patrick Ewing effect, maybe they'll be an NIT team. Regardless, they'll at least be respectable. They need shooters in a bad way though.

[GoMuskies]

Looks like they got a four person class coming in. All rated as three stars. I don't think Cooley is anywhere close to a hot seat personally, but I don't exactly have a pulse on their program.

Things were starting to get real shaky for them when they lost consecutive games to BC and Brown in December (after an understandable loss at Kentucky). Obviously they righted the ship, but if they suck next year I don't think Cooley has a huge reserve of goodwill to draw on.

[Bmuskie]

In this game providence made more field goals than dayton, made more 3-pointers than Dayton and out rebounded Dayton. The difference was that Dayton got to the foul line 30 times to Providence's 7.

[GoMuskies]

Georgetown is +4 tomorrow vs. Utah. I think Georgetown has to be the play there.

Other Big East games:
Xavier -7
Nova -9.5
Butler +4 (I don't like Butler and the 4 nearly as much as I like Georgetown and 4)

[BandAid]

What a boring day of basketball. Only the UC Irvine / Louisville game caught my attention from an entertainment perspective. Evidently the Ok St / Oregon game was good, but I care nothing for either of those teams.

[GuyFawkes38]

In this game providence made more field goals than dayton, made more 3-pointers than Dayton and out rebounded Dayton. The difference was that Dayton got to the foul line 30 times to Providence's 7.

The Cooley technical was absurd. I'm all about second chances, but the ref who called that has serious judgment issues and deserves a lengthy ban.

[BandAid]

Hey vd: It's only a matter of time. (http://www.tomcreanbuyout.com/)

[GoMuskies]

I don't think Archie's in line for that sort of promotion unless Indiana whiffs on a slew of guys.

[GoMuskies]

FT discrepancies that got less play on this board yesterday:

Xavier 21 FTs, Ole Miss 5
Butler 28 FTs, Texas 12
Georgetown 32 FTs, Eastern Washington 15

[Juice]

The Cooley technical was absurd. I'm all about second chances, but the ref who called that has serious judgment issues and deserves a lengthy ban.

One of the dumbest calls I've ever seen.

[GoMuskies]

I hate what they've done with Sunday games in the NCAA Tournament. Louisville/Northern Iowa will tip at 9:40 Eastern. Yuck. I liked it better when they stacked them all up to be done by 7 or so.

[Nigel Tufnel]

Well, an afternoon of drinking resulted in me falling sound asleep on my couch while watching Oklahoma/Albany. I woke up at 5:45 this morning cursing myself that I didn't get my Providence bet in. Saw the score and realized that alcohol had saved me $110. Thanks, alcohol. Good pick, Go. Disappointed in Providence.

[xavierj]

I don't think Archie's in line for that sort of promotion unless Indiana whiffs on a slew of guys.

Then they are dumb. Millers were born to coach.

[chico]

Well, an afternoon of drinking resulted in me falling sound asleep on my couch while watching Oklahoma/Albany. I woke up at 5:45 this morning cursing myself that I didn't get my Providence bet in. Saw the score and realized that alcohol had saved me $110. Thanks, alcohol. Good pick, Go. Disappointed in Providence.

Wish I would've fallen asleep when you did, but at least I fell asleep at halftime and didn't see the second half. Good thing I don't gamble for a living. Go certainly called it.

Miller has to be gone this year - don't know what job he'd take of the ones open now - Bama maybe - but if I were IU or Texas I'd take a hard look at him.

[xavierj]

Wish I would've fallen asleep when you did, but at least I fell asleep at halftime and didn't see the second half. Good thing I don't gamble for a living. Go certainly called it.

Miller has to be gone this year - don't know what job he'd take of the ones open now - Bama maybe - but if I were IU or Texas I'd take a hard look at him.

He won't be taking Bama.

[Xville]

If I'm any big time program, I'm a fool if I don't hire a miller. The guys can coach their backsides off. If I'm archie, I'm holding out for a top 10-15 job just like my brother did. Someone will be smart enough to hire him.

Cooley needs to recruit some shooters.

[sgarcia]

What big time program needs a coach right now?

[Xville]

What big time program needs a coach right now?

None yet. So, if nothing opens up there is no reason for him to leave...he should just bide his time until something good comes along. I think it would be a mistake for indiana or Texas to hold on to their coaches but they may do it who knows.

Just saw what creans buyout number is if he is fired this year...he's not going anywhere. 14 million! Wow! What a horrible contract Iu got themselves into.

[xavierj]

What big time program needs a coach right now?

None really but I can see Pitt, Indiana, Ohio St., and Texas in the market in the next few years.

[Masterofreality]

Looks like they got a four person class coming in. All rated as three stars. I don't think Cooley is anywhere close to a hot seat personally, but I don't exactly have a pulse on their program.

He is on no hot seat. They love him over there.

Not taking a shot at you Band, but some of the reactions on here just reflect what happens when a good coach has a bad game- especially in the Tournament. It happens. Providence had a very, very bad game, but Ed Cooley is still a very good coach. no one should overreact.

Sort of like when XU had a very bad game against NC State last year. All of a sudden the entire program is collapsing. Uh, wait......

[fellahmuskie]

Figures Dayton would wait until we're out of the A-10 to stop sucking in March. I hate Dayton, but I'm way more pissed at Providence. We better get 3 teams in the Sweet 16 today.

[Masterofreality]

He won't be taking Bama.

If Illinois opens up, though, I could see him taking that.

[fellahmuskie]

He is on no hot seat. They love him over there.

Not taking a shot at you Band, but some of the reactions on here just reflect what happens when a good coach has a bad game- especially in the Tournament. It happens. Providence had a very, very bad game, but Ed Cooley is still a very good coach. no one should overreact.

Sort of like when XU had a very bad game against NC State last year. All of a sudden the entire program is collapsing. Uh, wait......

I agree with this, it's just too bad Providence has had two straight 1st round exits. Must be so frustrating for their fans.

[Masterofreality]

I agree with this, it's just too bad Providence has had two straight 1st round exits. Must be so frustrating for their fans.

Last year they lost by 2 points to North Carolina. Not exactly a horrible loss, but yes. Frustrating.

And here's a fine article by Pete Thamel of Sports Illustrated...certainly not a honk of either side, but he's right. The Cryers, for all their bitching about refs, sure had the advantage last night.

http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2015/03/21/dayton-providence-ncaa-tournament-upset-dyshawn-pierre

[xavierj]

If Illinois opens up, though, I could see him taking that.

I can see that but that's probably at least two years away.

[Masterofreality]

You never know. I still don't know how solid Barnes is at Texas. There could be a surprise opening somewhere.

Sounds like the DePaul job is Ben Howland's, if he wants it.

[xavierj]

Last year they lost by 2 points to North Carolina. Not exactly a horrible loss, but yes. Frustrating.

And here's a fine article by Pete Thamel of Sports Illustrated...certainly not a honk of either side, but he's right. The Cryers, for all their bitching about refs, sure had the advantage last night.

http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2015/03/21/dayton-providence-ncaa-tournament-upset-dyshawn-pierre

That's the thing that kind of sucked for Providence last night. The refs set the tone early and Providence was being officiated differently than Dayton. I think sometimes the refs looked at a smaller team and give them the benefit of the doubt. They were calling ticky tack on the Friars but Dayton was allowed to hit, knock and bump Providence for the entire first half without Getting called for fouls, that would have been called on the other end. I think Cooley should have worked the refs better. Archie sure as hell did. That guy was giving the refs the evil eye and coming at them all night. He got the calls.

[GoMuskies]

He is on no hot seat. They love him over there.

Not taking a shot at you Band, but some of the reactions on here just reflect what happens when a good coach has a bad game- especially in the Tournament. It happens. Providence had a very, very bad game, but Ed Cooley is still a very good coach. no one should overreact.

Sort of like when XU had a very bad game against NC State last year. All of a sudden the entire program is collapsing. Uh, wait......

He's certainly not right now, but there were definitely some rumblings after the BC and Brown losses in December, which leads me to believe that if they have a bad year next year without Henton and Dunn, he might not be on particularly solid ground.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Shit, I could not stay up, I fell asleep at halftime and woke up at 2am on the couch and saw VD won. Shit, I thought for sure Providence would adjust in the second half and win the game.

[waggy]

Dayton is a quick team. It's what enables them to get position on both ends of the court.

[Strange Brew]

In this game providence made more field goals than dayton, made more 3-pointers than Dayton and out rebounded Dayton. The difference was that Dayton got to the foul line 30 times to Providence's 7.

Wow, that tells the story of the game.

[Masterofreality]

@JBedellWHIO: Dayton PD source tells @whiotv 9 people taken into custody in large crowd on UD campus this AM after Dayton win. 6 arrested, 3 given summons

Classy vd. By the way, Cryers can stop their infernal bitching about the refs. Last night paid it forward for 10 years.

[Masterofreality]

And then there's this from another national writers blog- and I'm done talking about last night.

"The dayton Invitational"
http://ajerseyguy.com/?p=12068

[Masterofreality]

UCLA taking it to UAB.

For those who thought UCLA should have been left out, they're still in, (admittedly by the grace of a whistle) and Indiana, LSU, Mississippi and Purdue, all of which were lower in the RPI ranking, are out. Oklahoma State was just below them and they're out too.

If any teams should have been dropped from the field, those 4 from two "power conferences" should have been.

[GoMuskies]

Oklahoma State is out. Lost to Oregon.

[Masterofreality]

Oklahoma State is out. Lost to Oregon.

Right. Had a Senior moment. Edited.

[GoMuskies]

Steve Alford is another one of these guys for whom procreation was pretty much their best coaching move.

[Porkopolis]

I live above the Holy Grail and can tell you this is the loudest I've ever heard a crowd down there. The fans of both UC and UK are going crazy with every possession.

[waggy]

What a great shot by Deberry.

[Bulldawg]

So are you guys rooting for UK or do you want Cincinnati win?

[GoMuskies]

So are you guys rooting for UK or do you want Cincinnati win?

UC. Never happen, though.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I feel dirty either way but it would be just too epic to see UK lose in the second round not to cheer for UC.

[xu82]

So are you guys rooting for UK or do you want Cincinnati win?

I'm hoping we can find a way for both to lose. But that's just me.

[bjf123]

UC. Never happen, though.

This.


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[LadyMuskie]

So are you guys rooting for UK or do you want Cincinnati win?

I think we decided on Selection Sunday that a meteor hitting the arena today was the best possible outcome.

But, I want UK to win because I do not want to listen to all the UC fans on the west side go on and on an on about how they beat UK. And they will. They're obnoxious.

[D-West & PO-Z]

UC played really good defense for 18mins

[Juice]

UC played really good defense for 18mins

And UK played really poorly for 18 minutes too and yet they're still up 7.

[LadyMuskie]

Who let those UCLA Bruins into the tournament? They're just an embarrassment. Way to go committee. Geez.

[Porkopolis]

I think we decided on Selection Sunday that a meteor hitting the arena today was the best possible outcome.

But, I want UK to win because I do not want to listen to all the UC fans on the west side go on and on an on about how they beat UK. And they will. They're obnoxious.

They'll go on about not losing by half a hundred, too. Might as well see Big Blue taken out of the tournament.

[LadyMuskie]

They'll go on about not losing by half a hundred, too. Might as well see Big Blue taken out of the tournament.

Yeah, but that's easily remedied by pointing out that a loss is a loss. They're not VD fans, so you can have rational discussions.

I really can't have them taking out the only undefeated team in the country. Most of you don't understand because you're surrounded by more X fans on the east side. Gladdenguy and the LadyM family are like two lone islands in a sea of sUCk.

[Masterofreality]

UK will lose in this tournament...but not to SucKS.

Sorry, some of you are not thinking of the ramifications if the Borecats win. All of a sudden they and the AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC are back on the map. We want them to be buried as deep into oblivion as possible.

No, do not cheer for them to be allowed back into a national conversation. Someone else can beat them...not SucKS.

[RealDeal]

Uk is shooting 32% and still winning. Ugly game.

[Jesuit4Life]

https://vine.co/v/OY6PMUtnxhi

[LadyMuskie]

https://vine.co/v/OY6PMUtnxhi

Was Larry Davis trying to remove jerseys?

[LadyMuskie]

Next year, we'll probably see tiny little cameras and sensors on the rims of all nets.

[LadyMuskie]

Good God. This is one of the ugliest games I've seen in awhile. Both teams look terrible. UK is very beatable.

[GoMuskies]

Dammit Bearcats, when you have two free throws and five shots on a possession, you've got to score!

[Masterofreality]

Good God. This is one of the ugliest games I've seen in awhile. Both teams look terrible. UK is very beatable.

Just.........not.......today.

[xu82]

Dammit Bearcats, when you have two free throws and five shots on a possession, you've got to score!

I think they were planning to get around to it...

[X-Fan]

UK seems to be very uncomfortable with how UC is playing them. This is why UK would lose to any NBA team. Mans Game.

If UC had anyone with a consistent jumper they'd have a shot of winning.

I'm not rooting for UC, but I am enjoying the heck out of this game.

[Strange Brew]

UC. Never happen, though.

ew, Go. Gross.

[LA Muskie]

This is where UK breaks away. It'll be a 20 pt game before it's over and folks will forget it was a game for nearly 30 mins.

[Strange Brew]

Dammit Bearcats, when you have two free throws and five shots on a possession, you've got to score!

Go, this makes me sad.

[Masterofreality]

FUCK SucKS!!!!!!

[xavierj]

The college of low expectations and the local media will make a victory out of this because they kept it under 20.

[goldiewilson]

@JBedellWHIO: Dayton PD source tells @whiotv 9 people taken into custody in large crowd on UD campus this AM after Dayton win. 6 arrested, 3 given summons

Classy vd. By the way, Cryers can stop their infernal bitching about the refs. Last night paid it forward for 10 years.


Amazed at the whining about the officiating in the UD-Providence game by some X fans on here and Providence fans on their board. Is that a Big East thing?

Here are some facts for you, and as we all know facts are a stubborn thing.

UD is the number 2 team in the nation in kempom rankings at getting to the foul line.

Providence gave up a lot of foul shots this year . They were 226th in the nation in defensive foul shots (giving up foul shots).

One of the CBS studio guys referenced this very point before the game and said that was why he picked UD to pull off the upset.

I think the technical foul on Cooley was ridiculous, but it had no impact on the outcome of that game. UD was up 9 points and there were less than 4 minutes to go when it was called, and Dayton only got 1 point out of it anyway.

[GoMuskies]

Go, this makes me sad.
They're playing UK. Cincinnati may be evil, but UK is North Korea.

[Masterofreality]

Amazed at the whining about the officiating in the UD-Providence game by some X fans on here and Providence fans on their board. Is that a Big East thing?

Here are some facts for you, and as we all know facts are a stubborn thing.

UD is the number 2 team in the nation in kempom rankings at getting to the foul line.

Providence gave up a lot of foul shots this year . They were 226th in the nation in defensive foul shots (giving up foul shots).

One of the CBS studio guys referenced this very point before the game and said that was why he picked UD to pull off the upset.

I think the technical foul on Cooley was ridiculous, but it had no impact on the outcome of that game. UD was up 9 points and there were less than 4 minutes to go when it was called, and Dayton only got 1 point out of it anyway.

The bookend "flagrant" on Kris Dunn and bench tech on Cooley were bull shit...and an indicator of how bad the officiating was. The Dunn flagrant set a bad tone early, and kept getting worse.

[X-Fan]

Amazed at the whining about the officiating in the UD-Providence game by some X fans on here and Providence fans on their board. Is that a Big East thing?

Here are some facts for you, and as we all know facts are a stubborn thing.

UD is the number 2 team in the nation in kempom rankings at getting to the foul line.

Providence gave up a lot of foul shots this year . They were 226th in the nation in defensive foul shots (giving up foul shots).

One of the CBS studio guys referenced this very point before the game and said that was why he picked UD to pull off the upset.

I think the technical foul on Cooley was ridiculous, but it had no impact on the outcome of that game. UD was up 9 points and there were less than 4 minutes to go when it was called, and Dayton only got 1 point out of it anyway.
And the home games for Vd?

[Masterofreality]

The suck of the Borecats is in full effect. Won't score 50. Edit: UK parts the ocean and allows a stroll to the basket for 51.

They are who they are.

Just because they can mucky it up doesn't mean they are any good.

Good bye and have a crappy summer.

[GoMuskies]

UD was by far the better team last night and won easily. That's the bottom line. No need for you to come here for your validation, though. You beat Providence, not Xavier.

[GoMuskies]

UC covered!

Who you guys like in Arizona/OSU? I'm thinking Arizona in a blowout?

[Masterofreality]

From CJ Anderson:

"@C_Weez: #BODYINTHTRUNK #FUCKUC

[paulxu]

are like two lone islands in a sea of sUCk.

That's an overwhelmingly crappy visual.

[goldiewilson]

The bookend "flagrant" on Kris Dunn and bench tech on Cooley were bull shit...and an indicator of how bad the officiating was. The Dunn flagrant set a bad tone early, and kept getting worse.

I hate the flagrant foul elbow calls. It slows the game down way too much. With all the concern over concussions I don't think it is going anywhere. However, Dunn did make contact so the refs called it. Wouldn't have bothered me if they did or didn't call it.

UD won the game because they did what they do. They played very good defense and forced the Friars best two players to take a lot of difficult shots and also because their quickness got them to the foul line frequently. They didn't win because of bad officiating.

I know you despise Dayton, but give credit where credit is due.

UD is a very well coached team who usually follows their game plan to a tee.
Archie Miller is a brilliant coach.

Good luck vs Georgia St.

[GoMuskies]

I know you despise Dayton, but give credit where credit is due.

I see you've not met MOR. :)

[Strange Brew]

I hate the flagrant foul elbow calls. It slows the game down way too much. With all the concern over concussions I don't think it is going anywhere. However, Dunn did make contact so the refs called it. Wouldn't have bothered me if they did or didn't call it.

UD won the game because they did what they do. They played very good defense and forced the Friars best two players to take a lot of difficult shots and also because their quickness got them to the foul line frequently. They didn't win because of bad officiating.

I know you despise Dayton, but give credit where credit is due.

PC played badly and Dayton played well and benefited from home court advantage and one sided officiating. Just be glad the game wasn't in Cincy, we know you guys struggle a bit there.

[Strange Brew]

They're playing UK. Cincinnati may be evil, but UK is North Korea.

Why? They never play X. You must be from Ohio.

[GoMuskies]

Why? They never play X. You must be from Ohio.

I must be from Louisville.

[Strange Brew]

I must be from Louisville.

Oh, that makes sense. Can't hate on a fellow Kentuckian. :)

[Masterofreality]

I hate the flagrant foul elbow calls. It slows the game down way too much. With all the concern over concussions I don't think it is going anywhere. However, Dunn did make contact so the refs called it. Wouldn't have bothered me if they did or didn't call it.

UD won the game because they did what they do. They played very good defense and forced the Friars best two players to take a lot of difficult shots and also because their quickness got them to the foul line frequently. They didn't win because of bad officiating.

I know you despise Dayton, but give credit where credit is due.

UD is a very well coached team who usually follows their game plan to a tee.
Archie Miller is a brilliant coach.

Good luck vs Georgia St.

Not denying that A) Dayton won the game B) Dayton played harder, C) Providence played poorly D) Ed Cooley coached the worst game I've ever seen him coach. Dayton did deserve the victory, however, the ancillary advantages that Dayton had in that game cannot be denied...and they affected the final outcome.

[LadyMuskie]

Do our fans go to other teams' boards after we win? Why do we attract these people?

[Masterofreality]

Arizona looking nothing like a 2 seed right now. Weak west coast schedule is a factor. #RaccoonFace

[LadyMuskie]

Sean better get things moving soon or you can just trash my brackets.

[GoMuskies]

Sean better get things moving soon or you can just trash my brackets.

Maybe, but wouldn't you feel better about Ohio State than Arizona for Xavier?

[waggy]

Maybe, but wouldn't you feel better about Ohio State than Arizona for Xavier?


Especially in LA.

[xavierj]

It's obvious that the Lexus wants no part of the Buick.

[xu82]

It's obvious that the Lexus wants no part of the Buick.

How about a Chevy or Ford pickup punching his Lexus on the grill?

[goldiewilson]

UD was by far the better team last night and won easily. That's the bottom line. No need for you to come here for your validation, though. You beat Providence, not Xavier.

Umm, pretty sure I was referencing a topic on here, which was that the officials screwed Providence in favor of UD. My comments had nothing to do with seeking any validation from anyone.

[LadyMuskie]

Maybe, but wouldn't you feel better about Ohio State than Arizona for Xavier?

I think Arizona is the better team. I want a shot at the better team. We owe Sean a little gift of destroying his chance at a national title.

But, realistically, yeah OSU is a better fit.

[LadyMuskie]

Umm, pretty sure I was referencing a topic on here, which was that the officials screwed Providence in favor of UD. My comments had nothing to do with seeking any validation from anyone.

You are on here. So, yes you are. It's easily fixed, though. Go away.

[goldiewilson]

Not denying that A) Dayton won the game B) Dayton played harder, C) Providence played poorly D) Ed Cooley coached the worst game I've ever seen him coach. Dayton did deserve the victory, however, the ancillary advantages that Dayton had in that game cannot be denied...and they affected the final outcome.

Okay well we will just have agree to disagree.
Providence had been called for THREE fouls at the under four timeout in the second half, with UD holding a nine point lead. Three fouls...

There are always going to be a few calls in a game that are questionable. The Ed Cooley technical foul was one for sure.
Bobby Werhle got called for one when he wasn't within a foot of the guy.

What affected the outcome was not the officials(as you stated), it was UD being the better team. I am out, have a good day.