Disputed Report Randolph Transferring (REFUTED BY MACK AND RANDOLPH)

[casualfan]

I think most expected this, but now it is official.

Josh Gershon @JoshGershon
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Xavier sophomore PG Brandon Randolph, originally from Inglewood (Calif.), has requested his release and will transfer, per source.

I know he struggled some with injuries this year and Austin ended up taking his playing time, but I still hate to see him go. I think he has some talent and now we really only have one true PG on the roster (I'm assuming Sumner will be a wing).

[Milhouse]

Sumner is 100% not a wing...don't anticipate him seeing any minutes at the 3 next year.

[casualfan]

Sumner is 100% not a wing...don't anticipate him seeing any minutes at the 3 next year.

So you're saying he's a pure point?

Because both the 2 and 3 are wings.

[GoMuskies]

Is he finishing the season first? I assume so, but I would have expected him to wait until after the season to request the release.

[X-Fan]

Ugh, that's a shame. I thought he would provide solid minutes this year. Seemed like he provided a spark the few times he got in the game. Loved his ability to get to the rim.

Kind of odd timing. This stuff usually doesn't happen till after the season. Will Brandon continue to practice with the team and travel to NYC?

I wish him great success wherever he goes (as long as he's not playing against X).

[JTG]

Does this mean pg recruit Traci Carter is committing to X today?

[casualfan]

Is he finishing the season first? I assume so, but I would have expected him to wait until after the season to request the release.

I highly doubt it. Typically once a guy asks for his release the relationship is over.

[casualfan]

Does this mean pg recruit Traci Carter is committing to X today?

He committed to Marquette a few hours ago.

[xudash]

Ugh, that's a shame. I thought he would provide solid minutes this year. Seemed like he provided a spark the few times he got in the game. Loved his ability to get to the rim.

Kind of odd timing. This stuff usually doesn't happen till after the season. Will Brandon continue to practice with the team and travel to NYC?

I wish him great success wherever he goes (as long as he's not playing against X).

I would think that he'll head back closer to home, so I doubt we would run into him much, except for the Dance. I was afraid of this, given how little we've seen of him.

I wish him great luck. I liked it when we landed him - a West Coast recruit; evidence of some national recruiting ability on the part of Mack and X.

[BMoreX]

Odd timing. Maybe it just leaked and he didn't want to announce until after the season.

[XUFan09]

So you're saying he's a pure point?

Because both the 2 and 3 are wings.
He's a combo guard.

It's a shame about Randolph. He too was a combo guard, but he never was strong enough in terms of PG skills to earn minutes there. He was good enough at the 2 to play, but there is a logjam at that position with Myles, Macura, and Remy.

The timing is odd, though.

[spursy]

Not surprised, just disappointed. Mack showed him the door this season. Can't help but feel he is being more pushed out than opting out.

[xukeith]

So will Brandon play this season in case X needs him?
Next year we have LArry and Sumner(who will be tested).

[Xville]

I wish Brandon well and hope he finds a landing place a little bit better suited for him. It seemed to be really tough on him being that far away from home along with not really being able to crack the rotation. I think he kind of saw the writing on the wall with Austin getting his minutes, and Sumner coming off his redshirt year. It sucks, but sometimes things just don't work out the way you want them to. I think this is best for both him and X.

[casualfan]

He's a combo guard.

It's a shame about Randolph. He too was a combo guard, but he never was strong enough in terms of PG skills to earn minutes there. He was good enough at the 2 to play, but there is a logjam at that position with Myles, Macura, and Remy.

The timing is odd, though.

Yeah, in my experience guys who get the combo guard label are much more likely to end up playing off the ball in college.

Typically when a guy is labeled a combo guard it means he has good enough handles to play the 1, but lacks the feel and/or passing ability required to play there. It also typically means he struggles to shoot from the outside (or else he'd be labeled a SG).

I would love to see Sumner be a point here because I love the size and athleticism he brings, but I have my concerns.

I think our pursuit of Carter says a lot about where the staff feels Sumner will fit in.

[Milhouse]

Not surprised, just disappointed. Mack showed him the door this season. Can't help but feel he is being more pushed out than opting out.

He had his opportunities. Averaged 10 MPG.....

[drudy23]

Even if he plays out the season, how can you put him in a game after this is announced?

[xudash]

Not surprised, just disappointed. Mack showed him the door this season. Can't help but feel he is being more pushed out than opting out.

That is nothing but conjecture on your part. I guess you're entitled to offer that that is how you feel, but you can't possibly know the details behind this outcome. It's just as true as what else has been posted here: injuries and other personnel, coupled with being far away from home with no real playing time in sight caused him to evaluate the appropriateness of his match with Xavier. Perhaps it was that, rather than some kind of sadistic maneuvering by Chris to push him out.

[Xville]

Not surprised, just disappointed. Mack showed him the door this season. Can't help but feel he is being more pushed out than opting out.

That's plain conjecture at this point. Also, if that is the case yes it sucks but 1.) this is div 1 high conference basketball not the YMCA and 2.) he had his chances both in practice and in games to show he could handle it.

Mack is being paid a lot of money, and sometimes with his job, he has to make some tough decisions. It sucks to have to do that, but that's life.

[spursy]

He just tweeted that he is staying at xavier.

[casualfan]

Even if he plays out the season, how can you put him in a game after this is announced?

There's no way he plays out the season. His time here is done now that this has been put out there.

You don't get to finish the year out after you ask for a release.

[THRILLHOUSE]

Well not so fast, Randolph just tweeted this:

"I play for Xavier and I'm still playing and tying to help my team win a Big East championship. I'm not going anywhere."

[casualfan]

Well not so fast, Randolph just tweeted this:

"I play for Xavier and I'm still playing and tying to help my team win a Big East championship. I'm not going anywhere."

Sounds like someone leaked the news he was going to ask for a release before he actually did. Kind of an awkward spot for him to be in.

[spursy]

Someone probably read some rumors on a pay site and jumped the gun.

[Juice]

Well not so fast, Randolph just tweeted this:

"I play for Xavier and I'm still playing and tying to help my team win a Big East championship. I'm not going anywhere."

Maybe he's simply stating that he will be part of the team until the end of the year. Who knows.

[casualfan]

Someone probably read some rumors on a pay site and jumped the gun.

Josh Gershon, who reported the news first, is a very well respected national writer for Scout.

That info didn't come from a pay site.

[spursy]

Josh Gershon, who reported the news first, is a very well respected national writer for Scout.

He got that info from someone in Randolph's camp.
Ah he's from scout...so he was anxious to draw some $$ to his crappy boards and broke the rumor too early.

[casualfan]

Ah he's from scout...so he was anxious to draw some $$ to his crappy boards and broke the rumor too early.

Yeah man, that's it. He was looking to draw people to his boards by putting the full story out on twitter for free.

Makes perfect sense...

[THRILLHOUSE]

Ah he's from scout...so he was anxious to draw some $$ to his crappy boards and broke the rumor too early.

I'd assume someone from Randolph's family (or friends) told him that Randolph was looking at transferring. Not like a rumor of (at this point) the 3rd string PG for Xavier transferring is gonna drive up subscriptions for his site.

[spursy]

Yeah man, that's it. He was looking to draw people to his boards by putting the full story out on twitter for free.

Makes perfect sense...
Sorry I am just jaded for having ever spent money on that site. But he has to get attention somehow and breaking stories, true or not, is the best way to get that done.

[XUFan09]

Yeah, in my experience guys who get the combo guard label are much more likely to end up playing off the ball in college.

Typically when a guy is labeled a combo guard it means he has good enough handles to play the 1, but lacks the feel and/or passing ability required to play there. It also typically means he struggles to shoot from the outside (or else he'd be labeled a SG).

I would love to see Sumner be a point here because I love the size and athleticism he brings, but I have my concerns.

I think our pursuit of Carter says a lot about where the staff feels Sumner will fit in.

Considering a lot of teams don't have a pure point guard or at least don't have a starter and a backup who is a pure point guard, combo guards do definitely play the point a lot at the high-D1 level. It's the same issue that the NBA has, where there really aren't a lot of pure point guards (truthfully, they're even harder to find in the NBA). Sumner is considered a combo guard more than anything because of how much he is grown. He can shoot and slash, which makes it so you don't want to limit him to the point guard position (whereas Dee, for example, was never a strong player off the ball). He definitely has point guard skills, though, and that's without even considering his limited minutes this season when he showed the potential to be a playmaker rather than simply a scorer.

The recruitment of Traci Carter doesn't say as much about Sumner as you might think. The staff feels Sumner can play on the ball or off the ball; they just had an opportunity to get talent, so they went after it. Also, you can never have enough point guards, as that is toughest role to fill with a player out of position (think Dante Jackson's sophomore year). It's much easier to rotate other players around than it is to play a 2 at the 1. What if Austin or Sumner get hurt, or what if one of them isn't developing fast enough?

Coaches want as much talent as they can get, as it gives them flexibility. They can play Sumner off the ball more if they have another point guard, but if one of their point guards isn't working out, he can easily switch back to playing on the ball. The problem this year with Dee was that they didn't have flexibility, because Randolph never really got good enough and Austin was just a freshman. Next year at point guard, they have a sophomore who played limited freshman minutes and a redshirt freshman who they'd like to play off the ball some of the time. If I were the coaching staff, I would be looking to bolster the lineup with a third point guard too and just let them all compete for minutes. What this team really needs is a 5th-year transfer point guard to keep the ship steady while the two underclassmen develop.

[SemajParlor]

Maybe he's simply stating that he will be part of the team until the end of the year. Who knows.

Makes sense. The way it's worded makes it sound like he will give it his all to finish out the year. Hope he does, been a big Randolph fan.

[Milhouse]

Sorry I am just jaded for having ever spent money on that site. But he has to get attention somehow and breaking stories, true or not, is the best way to get that done.

He's a national writer and not the one for xavier. Not sure how you had a bad experience over there. Easily work the $9 a month or whatever it is now......

[xavier323]

makes sense. The way it's worded makes it sound like he will give it his all to finish out the year. Hope he does, been a big randolph fan.

brancon randolph has not requested for release brandon randolph is still on team ready to compete if giving the opportunity total rumor and that is a fact from not a source which was stated on the tweet but a credible source look at the 323 (area code) on the back of my name

[spursy]

brancon randolph has not requested for release brandon randolph is still on team ready to compete if giving the opportunity total rumor and that is a fact from not a source which was stated on the tweet but a credible source look at the 323 (area code) on the back of my name
God I hope this is Brandon himself.

[casualfan]

Considering a lot of teams don't have a pure point guard or at least don't have a starter and a backup who is a pure point guard, combo guards do definitely play the point a lot at the high-D1 level. It's the same issue that the NBA has, where there really aren't a lot of pure point guards (truthfully, they're even harder to find in the NBA). Sumner is considered a combo guard more than anything because of how much he is grown. He can shoot and slash, which makes it so you don't want to limit him to the point guard position (whereas Dee, for example, was never a strong player off the ball). He definitely has point guard skills, though, and that's without even considering his limited minutes this season when he showed the potential to be a playmaker rather than simply a scorer.

The recruitment of Traci Carter doesn't say as much about Sumner as you might think. The staff feels Sumner can play on the ball or off the ball; they just had an opportunity to get talent, so they went after it. Also, you can never have enough point guards, as that is toughest role to fill with a player out of position (think Dante Jackson's sophomore year). It's much easier to rotate other players around than it is to play a 2 at the 1. What if Austin or Sumner get hurt, or what if one of them isn't developing fast enough?

Coaches want as much talent as they can get, as it gives them flexibility. They can play Sumner off the ball more if they have another point guard, but if one of their point guards isn't working out, he can easily switch back to playing on the ball. The problem this year with Dee was that they didn't have flexibility, because Randolph never really got good enough and Austin was just a freshman. Next year at point guard, they have a sophomore who played limited freshman minutes and a redshirt freshman who they'd like to play off the ball some of the time. If I were the coaching staff, I would be looking to bolster the lineup with a third point guard too and just let them all compete for minutes. What this team really needs is a 5th-year transfer point guard to keep the ship steady while the two underclassmen develop.

The thing is, those you teams you mentioned who don't have true points typically aren't very good.

Look at the top 25.

UK has Ulis.
Duke has Tyus Jones
Virginia has Perantes (sp?)
Villanova has Arcidiacano
Arizona has McConnell
Wisconsin has Jordan Taylor
Gonzaga has Pangos
Kansas has Frank Mason
ND has demetrius jackson
Wichita has Van Vleet
Iowa State has Monte Morris
Louisville has Q Snider
Oklahoma has Woodard
Baylor has Kenny Chery
Utah has Delon Wright
WVU has Staten
UNC has Paige
SMU has Nic Moore
Arkansas has Madden
Butler has Barlow
Georgetown has Smith-Rivera


The only team in the top 25 that doesn't really have a true point is Maryland. They use both Dez and Trimble in that role.

You are correct that there are a lot of college teams that don't have a true point. There just aren't a lot of good ones that don't.

Look I'd love it if Sumner ended up being able to run the point here. I just think it's a lot more likely he ends up playing off the ball.

[THRILLHOUSE]

brancon randolph has not requested for release brandon randolph is still on team ready to compete if giving the opportunity total rumor and that is a fact from not a source which was stated on the tweet but a credible source look at the 323 (area code) on the back of my name

Sorry, we are going to need your full birth name and social security number for confirmation.

[xeus]

God I hope this is Brandon himself.

I hope not, for a number of reasons.

[94GRAD]

God I hope this is Brandon himself.

I hope not. YIKES

[BMoreX]

Sucks it came out this way

[THRILLHOUSE]

FWIW, Mack is denying the rumor as well:

@FOX19Joe 4m4 minutes ago
Asked Chris Mack if Brandon Randolph had asked for his release to transfer. Chris said "no."

[XUFan09]

God I hope this is Brandon himself.
Based on the writing, I hope not.

[Juice]

Sorry I am just jaded for having ever spent money on that site. But he has to get attention somehow and breaking stories, true or not, is the best way to get that done.

You have no idea what you're talking about. People don't pay for sites that report inaccurate information.

[sgarcia]

FWIW, Mack is denying the rumor as well:

@FOX19Joe 4m4 minutes ago
Asked Chris Mack if Brandon Randolph had asked for his release to transfer. Chris said "no."

Nothing else Mack can really say at this point even if he knows Randolph is transferring. I fully believe that he will transfer.

[Chalmers0]

You have no idea what you're talking about. People don't pay for sites that report inaccurate information.

Players/Families/Coaches also don't trust someone who tweets out inaccurate information or breaks something before it is supposed to be broken. Gershon did nothing but hurt himself today by tweeting anything.

[spursy]

You have no idea what you're talking about. People don't pay for sites that report inaccurate information.
Okay it isn't true right now. But it is a viable rumor which is exactly why people pay for those sites, hoping they will get the inside scoop (which then shows up for free on twitter and message boards within hours) or never materializes.

[XUFan09]

The thing is, those you teams you mentioned who don't have true points typically aren't very good.

Look at the top 25.

UK has Ulis.
Duke has Tyus Jones
Virginia has Perantes (sp?)
Villanova has Arcidiacano
Arizona has McConnell
Wisconsin has Jordan Taylor
Gonzaga has Pangos
Kansas has Frank Mason
ND has demetrius jackson
Wichita has Van Vleet
Iowa State has Monte Morris
Louisville has Q Snider
Oklahoma has Woodard
Baylor has Kenny Chery
Utah has Delon Wright
WVU has Staten
UNC has Paige
SMU has Nic Moore
Arkansas has Madden
Butler has Barlow
Georgetown has Smith-Rivera


The only team in the top 25 that doesn't really have a true point is Maryland. They use both Dez and Trimble in that role.

You are correct that there are a lot of college teams that don't have a true point. There just aren't a lot of good ones that don't.

Look I'd love it if Sumner ended up being able to run the point here. I just think it's a lot more likely he ends up playing off the ball.
Good point, though some of those guys actually are combos doing a good job at the point guard position. It bears mentioning that not all combo guards are created equal. DSR, for example, is on the good side of the equation, and Sumner is a combo guard along those lines (though relying more on athleticism than savvy). The other side of that divide is guys like Mark Lyons, who fits your description of a combo guard pretty well, and I'd put Randolph in that grouping.

Heck, while we're at it, Tu was a combo guard, but he was on the good side of that divide.

[Lamont Sanford]

Nothing else Mack can really say at this point even if he knows Randolph is transferring. I fully believe that he will transfer.

What he said.

[Juice]

Okay it isn't true right now. But it is a viable rumor which is exactly why people pay for those sites, hoping they will get the inside scoop (which then shows up for free on twitter and message boards within hours) or never materializes.

Again, you have no idea what you're talking about.

[spursy]

Again, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Strong argument.

[Xville]

You have no idea what you're talking about. People don't pay for sites that report inaccurate information.

they don't? Espn reports inaccurate information all the time on their "espn insider" pay crap

[Juice]

they don't? Espn reports inaccurate information all the time on their "espn insider" pay crap

You're talking about a shitty site that has nothing to do with the reporters at Scout.com or the Randolph situation. Apples and oranges.

[casualfan]

Good point, though some of those guys actually are combos doing a good job at the point guard position. It bears mentioning that not all combo guards are created equal. DSR, for example, is on the good side of the equation, and Sumner is a combo guard along those lines (though relying more on athleticism than savvy). The other side of that divide is guys like Mark Lyons, who fits your description of a combo guard pretty well, and I'd put Randolph in that grouping.

Heck, while we're at it, Tu was a combo guard, but he was on the good side of that divide.

I guess it depends how you define combo guard.

To me, Tu was the consummate PG.

[Xville]

You're talking about a shitty site that has nothing to do with the reporters at Scout.com or the Randolph situation. Apples and oranges.

someone must be a heavy investor in scout.com :biggrin:

[BMoreX]

I'm guessing he ends up transferring but no way this is how either Brandon or Xavier wanted this to come out, especially when the team is prepping for a Big East tournament.

[bobbiemcgee]

Unfortunate, indeed. Don't report shit if it's not confirmed by the Player. Needless distraction.

[muskiefan82]

Odd timing. Maybe it just leaked and he didn't want to announce until after the season.

Clearly, the Butler did it.

[LadyMuskie]

Unfortunate, indeed. Don't report shit if it's not confirmed by the Player. Needless distraction.

I agree. This is exactly the kind of completely avoidable nonsense this team does not need going into MSG. Whether it's true or not or somewhere in between, there was zero reason to tweet that today unless Randolph was sitting on the side of Victory Parkway with his bags and a sign saying "Will transfer for playing time."

[LadyMuskie]

Clearly, the Butler did it.

Wait. Are you saying THE butler did. Or Butler did it? Because I could totally buy into the conspiracy that Butler did this to get into our heads heading into the tournament. :wink:

[casualfan]

I agree. This is exactly the kind of completely avoidable nonsense this team does not need going into MSG. Whether it's true or not or somewhere in between, there was zero reason to tweet that today unless Randolph was sitting on the side of Victory Parkway with his bags and a sign saying "Will transfer for playing time."

I get what you are saying, but he wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't report it.

If he has a reliable source in Randolph's camp telling him he requested his release there's no reason not to report it.

What's interesting to me is how this plays out from here.

If Randolph hadn't approached X yet I can't imagine Mack will be happy.

And if he did approach X before the news broke why is he still with the team? Typically once a guy asks for a release they leave the team, even if they stay in school.

[Smails]

I blame global warming

[smileyy]

I'm guessing he ends up transferring but no way this is how either Brandon or Xavier wanted this to come out, especially when the team is prepping for a Big East tournament.

I'd be kind of surprised if everyone on the team didn't know this already, at least subconsciously. Props to Brandon for being a professional and continuing to contribute to the team, as is his job right now.

[LadyMuskie]

I get what you are saying, but he wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't report it.

If he has a reliable source in Randolph's camp telling him he requested his release there's no reason not to report it.

Everything that is wrong with journalism (and I use that word in the broadest sense of the term since every Tom, Dick and Sally with a laptop and a website calls themselves a journalist)- across the board - is the need to be first instead of the need to be right. Maybe Gerhson is both. If he's not, he should be fired (although we all know he won't be fired because being wrong these days hardly ever matters - so long as you were the first to break the story).

[Lamont Sanford]

I'd be kind of surprised if everyone on the team didn't know this already, at least subconsciously. Props to Brandon for being a professional and continuing to contribute to the team, as is his job right now.

Well said.

[casualfan]

Everything that is wrong with journalism (and I use that word in the broadest sense of the term since every Tom, Dick and Sally with a laptop and a website calls themselves a journalist)- across the board - is the need to be first instead of the need to be right. Maybe Gerhson is both. If he's not, he should be fired (although we all know he won't be fired because being wrong these days hardly ever matters - so long as you were the first to break the story).

Your original post said "Whether it's true or not or somewhere in between, there was zero reason to tweet that today".

That's totally wrong if it's true. He has every reason to report it today for exactly the reasons you mentioned above. Right, wrong, or otherwise the name of the game in reporting these days, especially when it comes to recruiting, is to be first.

The idea he should hold onto the information because it might hurt Xavier is ridiculous. He has no allegiance to us.

[XUFan09]

I guess it depends how you define combo guard.

To me, Tu was the consummate PG.
I'd say Drew Lavender fits that bill better, but I agree with the trickiness of definitions.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Damn you Obama!!!

First, did Sumner actually get a redshirt? Kid played more than a few minutes, so unless he had a big injury this was his freshman year. Second, Randolph was ok. There is absolutely no reason to think he wouldn't have been Austin's backup or vice versa. I wonder if Carter hinted he might commit and didn't and this was Randolph's reaction.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Damn you Obama!!!

First, did Sumner actually get a redshirt? Kid played more than a few minutes, so unless he had a big injury this was his freshman year. Second, Randolph was ok. There is absolutely no reason to think he wouldn't have been Austin's backup or vice versa. I wonder if Carter hinted he might commit and didn't and this was Randolph's reaction.

Medical Redshirt

[Xavier]

Your original post said "Whether it's true or not or somewhere in between, there was zero reason to tweet that today".

That's totally wrong if it's true. He has every reason to report it today for exactly the reasons you mentioned above. Right, wrong, or otherwise the name of the game in reporting these days, especially when it comes to recruiting, is to be first.

The idea he should hold onto the information because it might hurt Xavier is ridiculous. He has no allegiance to us.

Those who just try to "be first" are not well respected because as you say- it doesn't matter if its right or wrong. LadyMuskie is just trying to point out that "being first" is the wrong way to do it- and there should be more importance to being right. You are basically saying whether the information you receive is right or wrong, you need to report it because thats the name of the game.

Now, I agree, he shouldn't hold the information because it might hurt Xavier. (Unless he hopes to have repeated interaction with people from Xavier, don't want to burn any bridges).

[casualfan]

Those who just try to "be first" are not well respected because as you say- it doesn't matter if its right or wrong. LadyMuskie is just trying to point out that "being first" is the wrong way to do it- and there should be more importance to being right. You are basically saying whether the information you receive is right or wrong, you need to report it because thats the name of the game.

Now, I agree, he shouldn't hold the information because it might hurt Xavier. (Unless he hopes to have repeated interaction with people from Xavier, don't want to burn any bridges).

I'm saying that if he has info he believes to be correct it is his job to report it.

[Masterofreality]

Everything that is wrong with journalism (and I use that word in the broadest sense of the term since every Tom, Dick and Sally with a laptop and a website calls themselves a journalist)- across the board - is the need to be first instead of the need to be right. Maybe Gerhson is both. If he's not, he should be fired (although we all know he won't be fired because being wrong these days hardly ever matters - so long as you were the first to break the story).

I really want to get the Great Q's take on this.

My take? Brandon is a Musketeer......until he's not.

[xubrew]

If I were a star player, I'd get a huge kick out of starting transfer rumors (or any rumor really), and the logging on to the internet to watch it melt down. The trick would be to get these rumors started without actually saying that you plan to transfer.

"So-and-so has a pretty good team. I like that program, and would probably be able to play there right away."

Then get the popcorn and sit back....

[bobbiemcgee]

I'm saying that if he has info he believes to be correct it is his job to report it.

Wrong. Unless he quotes Randolph as his source and he also confirms it. Who gives a crap if he "believes it to correct'. Many sources here believed there was someone in DC's trunk, but we still don't have confirmation. Fox news and Trump still think Obama was born in Africa and "believes it to still be correct.'

[THRILLHOUSE]

If I were a star player, I'd get a huge kick out of starting transfer rumors (or any rumor really), and the logging on to the internet to watch it melt down. The trick would be to get these rumors started without actually saying that you plan to transfer.

"So-and-so has a pretty good team. I like that program, and would probably be able to play there right away."

Then get the popcorn and sit back....

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[bleedXblue]

Why would he stay? He has two guys ahead of him and we were just recruiting another PG for some reason?

[DC Muskie]

Many sources here believed there was someone in DC's trunk, but we still don't have confirmation.

"Someone" or "Some?"

[Always Learning]

I really want to get the Great Q's take on this.

My take? Brandon is a Musketeer......until he's not.

While we wait for Q, and from someone who worked with media back in the day, I first go along with Lady Muskie in that anyone who has a phone these days can, and do, call themselves "journalists." They are no in any definition of the word. They are no more, and no less than blood brother/sisters of ones who call in (or host) sports call in shows.
How many times since the advent of this boar, or any board, have we read posters stating "facts" they learned from inside sources? Same with clowns who "twitter" information they learned from sources.
The source is never identified, and the sources is just a gossiper who will twitter something just to get attention.
Brian Randolph said he is not leaving. Chris Mack said he is not leaving, but page after page (closing in on ten I think) posters are saying he's gone, or couldn't play anyway, etc etc etc. That fully explains that anyone with a phone becomes an expert, eh, self declared one.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy many of the posters who logical opinions, but the "experts" who on the basis have having coached their son or daughters grade school basketball team know how to run and coach a major college program and just silly. And I think the silliest of them all justify their opinions by say declaring "they have a right." Of course they do, the First amendment guarantee's that.
I had the good fortune back in the day to work with media who were journalists, real journalists. But at the end, the the "investigative journalists" crept on the scene and "don't mess with my story by giving me facts" was the usual.
Everything today, boards, call in shows, twitter, facebook, print is all off the wall.
And dollars to donuts Q will back me up.
Pace Domini

[The Coz]

I for one champion the democratization brought by new media. Q and his ilk have their own biases. Good riddance.

[xeus]

Brian Randolph said he is not leaving. Chris Mack said he is not leaving, but page after page (closing in on ten I think) posters are saying he's gone, or couldn't play anyway, etc etc etc. That fully explains that anyone with a phone becomes an expert, eh, self declared one.


Where did Brandon say he is not leaving? I haven't seen a quote from him.

Nor did Mack affirmatively state that Brandon is not leaving. The quote from Joe Danneman of Fox 19 was this, via twitter: Asked Chris Mack if Brandon Randolph had asked for his release to transfer. Chris said "no."

Big difference from the way you characterized it...

[XUFan09]

Who's Brian Randolph?

(I couldn't resist...)

[LA Muskie]

I think it's funny that people really believe this was a reporting snafu. Maybe report/deny was the plan all along on Randolph's part. Maybe wires got crossed on the timing of the announcement. Or maybe Randolph had second thoughts after it got reported. But I think we all knew he was gone at season's end. Until then I will wish him well in a Xavier uniform. And after it I will wish him well wherever he ends up, and whatever he's doing.

[Masterofreality]

While we wait for Q, and from someone who worked with media back in the day, I first go along with Lady Muskie in that anyone who has a phone these days can, and do, call themselves "journalists." They are no in any definition of the word. They are no more, and no less than blood brother/sisters of ones who call in (or host) sports call in shows.
How many times since the advent of this boar, or any board, have we read posters stating "facts" they learned from inside sources? Same with clowns who "twitter" information they learned from sources.
The source is never identified, and the sources is just a gossiper who will twitter something just to get attention.
Brian Randolph said he is not leaving. Chris Mack said he is not leaving, but page after page (closing in on ten I think) posters are saying he's gone, or couldn't play anyway, etc etc etc. That fully explains that anyone with a phone becomes an expert, eh, self declared one.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy many of the posters who logical opinions, but the "experts" who on the basis have having coached their son or daughters grade school basketball team know how to run and coach a major college program and just silly. And I think the silliest of them all justify their opinions by say declaring "they have a right." Of course they do, the First amendment guarantee's that.
I had the good fortune back in the day to work with media who were journalists, real journalists. But at the end, the the "investigative journalists" crept on the scene and "don't mess with my story by giving me facts" was the usual.
Everything today, boards, call in shows, twitter, facebook, print is all off the wall.
And dollars to donuts Q will back me up.
Pace Domini

This man knows from where he speaks.


I for one champion the democratization brought by new media. Q and his ilk have their own biases. Good riddance.

Really? Where is the "filter"? Etiquette? Respect? And making sure all sides are buttoned up before running with a story?

The Internet is Wild West with a bunch of guys trying to spectacularize themselves to get a job with ESPN.com. Just report anything. You can always say that your "sources" F-ed up.

[Always Learning]

[QUOTE=xeus;492400]Where did Brandon say he is not leaving? I haven't seen a quote from him.

https://twitter.com/BRandolph3/status/5 ... 4714377216
"I play for Xavier and I'm still playing and tying to help my team win a Big East championship. I'm not going anywhere"

[LA Muskie]

Anyone can call himself or herself a journalist. But ultimately a journalist survives (if at all) on his or her credibility.

This isn't the first time that a true story was reported, only to have the source recant. Sources do so all the time, for a variety of reasons. Maybe they don't like how the story made them look. Maybe they didn't like the timing of the story. Maybe they are second-guessing giving the interview and revealing the information, even if true. And maybe -- just maybe -- their boss is pissed as hell that the story came out at a very sensitive time when the company has far more important things to be dealing with.

Baldly assuming that the reporter who tweeted the information was wrong, just because the source has now recanted and his boss has issued a generic retort, is a pretty naive approach.

Randolph may be in uniform for the next few weeks, but I very much doubt we'll see him out on the court during gametime.

[RoseyMuskie]

I've learned quickly that in today's media climate, being able to discern who's reliable is the key.

For example, Ian Rapaport consistently provides updates that aren't necessarily confirmations, but likely scenarios, based upon on his sources. He's right 99% of the time.

If Gershon is right a lot more than he's wrong, I'll take him at his word. I don't read his posts, so I'm not able to make that assessment. But if he's like Bleacher Report, I'll discredit it immediately.

Sure, you can be wrong. But to earn credibility, you better be right a lot more than wrong if you want to work up.

I'll supprt Brandon until confirmed otherwise, but I'd be willing to bet a beer he's gone after the season.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Anyone can call himself or herself a journalist. But ultimately a journalist survives (if at all) on his or her credibility.

This isn't the first time that a true story was reported, only to have the source recant. Sources do so all the time, for a variety of reasons. Maybe they don't like how the story made them look. Maybe they didn't like the timing of the story. Maybe they are second-guessing giving the interview and revealing the information, even if true. And maybe -- just maybe -- their boss is pissed as hell that the story came out at a very sensitive time when the company has far more important things to be dealing with.

Baldly assuming that the reporter who tweeted the information was wrong, just because the source has now recanted and his boss has issued a generic retort, is a pretty naive approach.

Randolph may be in uniform for the next few weeks, but I very much doubt we'll see him out on the court during gametime.

You're guessing the source was Brandon.

[LA Muskie]

You're guessing the source was Brandon.

I am not guessing. I am relying on reports that have a reputation for being very credible.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I am not guessing. I am relying on reports that have a reputation for being very credible.

Oh I didnt see that posted anywhere. Who except the journalist or tweeter or whatever would know that guys source? And if he said it was Brandon why not just say Brandon instead of "source"?

[LA Muskie]

Oh I didnt see that posted anywhere. Who except the journalist or tweeter or whatever would know that guys source? And if he said it was Brandon why not just say Brandon instead of "source"?
Without disclosing specific information behind a paid wall as well as other personal sources, let's just say there were multiple solid sources including either Brandon or a very close family member. The sources obviously did not want to be identified, but that's not all that unusual.

As this has developed, it seems to me that this was a PR bungle more than anything else -- Xavier didn't want the distraction during tourney time so now they and Brandon are in spin mode.

But he's gone.

[xu82]

As this has developed, it seems to me that this was a PR bungle more than anything else -- Xavier didn't want the distraction during tourney time so now they and Brandon are in spin mode.

I don't doubt this at all, but I hate this stuff, especially considering the timing. I'm in "just wishing it would go away - at least for now" mode. It seems the player and the team agree. But I get that it's a legit topic and people will want to discuss it...

[D-West & PO-Z]

Without disclosing specific information behind a paid wall as well as other personal sources, let's just say there were multiple solid sources including either Brandon or a very close family member. The sources obviously did not want to be identified, but that's not all that unusual.

As this has developed, it seems to me that this was a PR bungle more than anything else -- Xavier didn't want the distraction during tourney time so now they and Brandon are in spin mode.

But he's gone.

How does this prove you werent guessing the source was Brandon. You just admitted your personal sources arent sure who it was.

I dont doubt the guy is right and had a legitimate sources but was just questioning your original post that it was Brandon. Which you said it wasnt a guess then backed that up by saying a paid site and personal sources are saying it was "either Brandon or a close family member".

It would make a lot more sense to me that is was a family member who jumped the gun and made a mistake saying it too early.

[LA Muskie]

How does this prove you werent guessing the source was Brandon. You just admitted your personal sources arent sure who it was.

I dont doubt the guy is right and had a legitimate sources but was just questioning your original post that it was Brandon. Which you said it wasnt a guess then backed that up by saying a paid site and personal sources are saying it was "either Brandon or a close family member".

It would make a lot more sense to me that is was a family member who jumped the gun and made a mistake saying it too early.
You are right -- I didn't realize it until just now (when you pointed it out), but I was indeed less than precise in my initial response to your post. My follow-up post unwittingly clarified.

I wouldn't say I was guessing. The reports are such that the source was clearly either Brandon or a very, very close family member authorized to speak on his behalf. But because the source was not revealed publicly, there was some "reading between the lines" involved. That reading between the lines included relying on other credible sources addressing the initial report.

I do think you are right that the timing of the report is the real issue.

[OH.X.MI]

While we wait for Q, and from someone who worked with media back in the day, I first go along with Lady Muskie in that anyone who has a phone these days can, and do, call themselves "journalists." They are no in any definition of the word. They are no more, and no less than blood brother/sisters of ones who call in (or host) sports call in shows.
How many times since the advent of this boar, or any board, have we read posters stating "facts" they learned from inside sources? Same with clowns who "twitter" information they learned from sources.
The source is never identified, and the sources is just a gossiper who will twitter something just to get attention.
Brian Randolph said he is not leaving. Chris Mack said he is not leaving, but page after page (closing in on ten I think) posters are saying he's gone, or couldn't play anyway, etc etc etc. That fully explains that anyone with a phone becomes an expert, eh, self declared one.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy many of the posters who logical opinions, but the "experts" who on the basis have having coached their son or daughters grade school basketball team know how to run and coach a major college program and just silly. And I think the silliest of them all justify their opinions by say declaring "they have a right." Of course they do, the First amendment guarantee's that.
I had the good fortune back in the day to work with media who were journalists, real journalists. But at the end, the the "investigative journalists" crept on the scene and "don't mess with my story by giving me facts" was the usual.
Everything today, boards, call in shows, twitter, facebook, print is all off the wall.
And dollars to donuts Q will back me up.
Pace Domini

Amen!

That guy at scouts is an ass hat. I enjoy reading Rick and Brian's stuff. But anyone who stands behind the "it's my job" line in this context absurd. This isn't Watergate for Christ sake. It's a teenager playing basketball and leaving because thing's clearly weren't working out as he hoped for. I don't care who the source is. Kids and the universities should be allowed to make these types of announcements on their own terms.

And I'm all for democratization, but muckraking is muckraking. Twitter doesn't turn shit into a pulitzer.

[wkrq59]

Made the mistake of opening this thread . Was up to tend to nature and could not sleep. Read some Enq online and I'm yawning. That means I am like some posters and whoever started this. Therefore I am not in full possession of all my mental faculties. I will say this and only this until I have rested in the arms of Morpheus: I am not now and never have been a "JOURNALIST" Good morning and have a pleasant day. Later.
:nono:

[throwbackmuskie]

You're talking about a shitty site that has nothing to do with the reporters at Scout.com or the Randolph situation. Apples and oranges.

Scout is by far the worst "pay site" I have ever saw. They do post a ton of bad information.

[ammtd34]

Scout is by far the worst "pay site" I have ever saw. They do post a ton of bad information.

I think you're thinking of Rivals.

[throwbackmuskie]

I think you're thinking of Rivals.

Nope. Scout published a few things right after football season they claimed where true, and staked their repuation with them, and they turned out to be nowhere close to being true.

[ammtd34]

Nope. Scout published a few things right after football season they claimed where true, and staked their repuation with them, and they turned out to be nowhere close to being true.

In regards to Xavier?

[throwbackmuskie]

In regards to Xavier?

talking about Scout in general.

[ammtd34]

talking about Scout in general.

Got it. I don't really have an opinion, then. I was talking about Xavier specifically. I think Rick does a really nice job.

[Juice]

talking about Scout in general.

Scout is better with basketball. Rivals is better with football.

[Milhouse]

Yeah I mean scout is generally a bunch of freelancers under the umbrella of a network.

The type of coverage for the Xavier site is very different than the coverage on say the UC site.

[boozehound]

Hope he stays. We could really use some depth at PG next year, and he should have as much chance to crack the rotation as anyone else. Whatever he does I wish him the best of luck. I had high hopes for him at Xavier.

[LA Muskie]

I don't recall Rick or Brian ever having been wrong with their Xavier reporting. If anything I get frustrated that their reporting is so conservative.

The initial report was not from either Rick or Brian. But Rick has basically corroborated it with multiple separate but according to him very credible unnamed sources.

[bleedXblue]

Mack's missed on a few PG's IMHO and now we're in a really tough spot. Would really like to see a JUCO or 5th year guy come in if it makes sense and they can make an immediate impact.

[waggy]

A few? Like more than 2?

[xeus]

The whole Rick/Brian reporting thing is silly, with their "premium content". I pay a lot more than $100 for my WSJ subscription, but I've never been told I'm not allowed to share the news that I read there. I'm sure there's a difference someone will point out to me, but end of the day, their "premium" news lasts about a day before it's common knowledge, and in this case, it appears they may have been scooped.

[XUFan09]

Ah, the common misconception: "Premium content" just means you get the same info a day or two early. Sometimes, yes, but a lot of insights never reach the main boards. The board has been very good under Rick. I get people not being interested in it, but that's not an excuse to be wrong.

[paulxu]

Why, just look at the premium content in the X lounge. A lot of that (especially pictures) never makes it to the main board.

(Which may be a good thing)

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Reading some twitter crap, I see that Randolph was having injury issues with his quad. Was that the reason we saw Austin Jr. come off the bench instead?

[Milhouse]

Ah, the common misconception: "Premium content" just means you get the same info a day or two early. Sometimes, yes, but a lot of insights never reach the main boards. The board has been very good under Rick. I get people not being interested in it, but that's not an excuse to be wrong.

yeah it's more of the analysis and breakdowns. The discussion is just tons more focused over there I'd say. Although it's gotten more derailed in the last few months.

[mistabeecee41]

kid has talent, just don't see him being here next year. He single handedly carried us through the 1st half of the game @ Missouri. I still remember the defensive sequence in our first game against SHU that put him in the permanent dog house.

With that being said, I wouldn't be surprised if we see him scoring 15+ PPG in a few years at a smaller west coast school.

[American X]

Brian Randolph



This man knows from where he speaks.



Who's Brian Randolph?

!

[Chalmers0]

Reading some twitter crap, I see that Randolph was having injury issues with his quad. Was that the reason we saw Austin Jr. come off the bench instead?

I'm guessing it's because Austin has been better in practice, is better defensively and is much better at running the offense.

I think Randolph could have a lot of success at a WCC type of school (I wouldn't rule out Pac-12 either)

[XUFan09]

I'm guessing it's because Austin has been better in practice, is better defensively and is much better at running the offense.

I think Randolph could have a lot of success at a WCC type of school (I wouldn't rule out Pac-12 either)
I also wouldn't rule out the Pac-12, as he could definitely start at SG for a lower program..

[Masterofreality]

!

Oh, leave the man alone over a name faux pas.

For reference, Always Learning was a College SID and the PR Director for multiple NFL franchises. I think he knows more about how the media works, or should work, than most.

[American X]

Oh, leave the man alone over a name faux pas.

For reference, Always Learning was a College SID and the PR Director for multiple NFL franchises. I think he knows more about how the media works, or should work, than most.

Tell that to Jalen Sima (http://www.xavierhoops.com/showthread.php?29405-Big-Trouble-With-Pirates) (or Jaren Sina).

[Masterofreality]

Tell that to Jalen Sima (http://www.xavierhoops.com/showthread.php?29405-Big-Trouble-With-Pirates) (or Jaren Sina).

Salem Jima?

I can't spell Archidiacono either.

[xeus]

Ah, the common misconception: "Premium content" just means you get the same info a day or two early. Sometimes, yes, but a lot of insights never reach the main boards. The board has been very good under Rick. I get people not being interested in it, but that's not an excuse to be wrong.

There's only so much "premium" content that really matters. What a 2019 recruit had for breakfast is really not terribly interesting news. My point about "premium" content was more about the stink those guys raise if their information is shared. I get not re-posting a complete article, but those guys take themselves a little too seriously when it comes to "leaking" their "secret" info. That's why I used the WSJ analogy. I'll pay for the content, but I'll pass on the gag order.

[LA Muskie]

There's only so much "premium" content that really matters. What a 2019 recruit had for breakfast is really not terribly interesting news. My point about "premium" content was more about the stink those guys raise if their information is shared. I get not re-posting a complete article, but those guys take themselves a little too seriously when it comes to "leaking" their "secret" info. That's why I used the WSJ analogy. I'll pay for the content, but I'll pass on the gag order.
I don't think that's really a fair analogy. The scope of the reporting is too narrow and the universe of potential customers is too small (and too closely knit); the premium board simply could not survive financially if there was only a small number of subscribers who then broadcast the information to the rest of Xavier Nation for free.

I like the Scout board. And I'm not even all that interested in the recruiting aspects of it. And it's not just because of Rick and Brian (although they are well worth the expense, if you ask me). Because of its closed nature, others with connections seem more willing to reveal information there that they are not inclined to reveal here.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Ok I know I am out of the loop here but I dont understand exactly what scout and rivals are. They are recruiting sites with specific team pages that also have message boards? Scout and Rivals have specific XU pages/message boards?

[RoseyMuskie]

Ok I know I am out of the loop here but I dont understand exactly what scout and rivals are. They are recruiting sites with specific team pages that also have message boards? Scout and Rivals have specific XU pages/message boards?

Correct. To be honest, I couldn't care less about the recruiting content. The Xavier content is what draws me in. Good pregame matchup previews, podcasts, and post game video breakdown. There's also a message board, but the posting volume is relatively limited compared to this site.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Correct. To be honest, I couldn't care less about the recruiting content. The Xavier content is what draws me in. Good pregame matchup previews, podcasts, and post game video breakdown. There's also a message board, but the posting volume is relatively limited compared to this site.

Interesting. Yeah I am really not interested in recruiting whatsoever. I mean I am excited when I hear a good guy commits to X but I have no desire to follow what some freshman/soph/jr is doing in games and what colleges he is visiting and who he has limited his choices to. Might check out some of the other stuff though. The guys who report on XU are local guys? National guys? Do they report on multiple teams or just XU?

[wkrq59]

Today there are few if any journalists in the world, as there fewer and fewer newspapers in the world.
The world of broadcast journalism is also in decline as the scandals have shown us. News anchors are just entertainers reading teleprompters.
Once upon a line, news was Rudyard Kipling's six honest serving men, who taught him "all he knew, their names were What and Where and When and How and Why and Who. "
But to the point of this thread. It should never have the legs it has. As a local radio man once said, "Your right to know supercedes your right to exist." Today, we have people on twitter positing rumors that develop a life of their own whether or not they are true. There is little concern for the truth or what the consequences of a false statement will bring to the individual or the team. The code is be first no matter what. Sad.
Recruiting sites throw stuff out there to see if it will stick. Today's rumor can be regarded as gospel if a kid once mumbled after a loss, "I'm disgusted...with my play," and only part of that is true. Right away there is the assumption that he's going to transfer.
Just remember, every recruiting site, ratings service, football and basketball rankings site etc. is designed for one purpose : TO MAKE MONEY.Even the so-called free sites. Joe Lunardi has a reputation built by ESPN for whom he works. He developed his contacts by working as a broadcaster of St. Joseph, Pa. games. He's accurate to a degree and has a pretty wide network that feeds him but he has to dig for a lot of his stuff.
Pete Rose used to call The Post's (late) Earl Lawson "Scoops," because he used to beat the pants off his competition. Today, with the internet, twitter, Facebook and who knows what there are damn few scoops unless they are at Graeters. Sadly, today, there are no Haywood Hale Brouns, Edward R. Murrows, Walter Cronkites or their ilk. There are only wannabees. And they ain't.

[BMoreX]

Interesting. Yeah I am really not interested in recruiting whatsoever. I mean I am excited when I hear a good guy commits to X but I have no desire to follow what some freshman/soph/jr is doing in games and what colleges he is visiting and who he has limited his choices to. Might check out some of the other stuff though. The guys who report on XU are local guys? National guys? Do they report on multiple teams or just XU?

Rick Broering who runs the site is a local guy. He's appeared on a few Cincinnati TV stations to discuss sports.

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but his main focus is Xavier, but he also reports on Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky high school football and basketball.

Brian Snow, who used to run the Xavier Scout page, is now a national writer for them, but he routinely still posts on the Xavier message board.

[American X]

I can't spell Archidiacono either.

Upon first hearing, how many people think that player's name is Archie Diacono? If that were Snipe's surname, he would have named his son Archibald.

[Juice]

Rick Broering who runs the site is a local guy. He's appeared on a few Cincinnati TV stations to discuss sports.

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but his main focus is Xavier, but he also reports on Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky high school football and basketball.

Brian Snow, who used to run the Xavier Scout page, is now a national writer for them, but he routinely still posts on the Xavier message board.

Correct. Brian also used to work for Rivals before jumping ship for Scout.

[XfansinKy]

If he could go left with confidence I doubt this thread exists.

[Juice]

If he could go left with confidence I doubt this thread exists.

Semaj couldn't dribble with his left either.

[X-Fan]

Today there are few if any journalists in the world, as there fewer and fewer newspapers in the world.
The world of broadcast journalism is also in decline as the scandals have shown us. News anchors are just entertainers reading teleprompters.
Once upon a line, news was Rudyard Kipling's six honest serving men, who taught him "all he knew, their names were What and Where and When and How and Why and Who. "
But to the point of this thread. It should never have the legs it has. As a local radio man once said, "Your right to know supercedes your right to exist." Today, we have people on twitter positing rumors that develop a life of their own whether or not they are true. There is little concern for the truth or what the consequences of a false statement will bring to the individual or the team. The code is be first no matter what. Sad.
Recruiting sites throw stuff out there to see if it will stick. Today's rumor can be regarded as gospel if a kid once mumbled after a loss, "I'm disgusted...with my play," and only part of that is true. Right away there is the assumption that he's going to transfer.
Just remember, every recruiting site, ratings service, football and basketball rankings site etc. is designed for one purpose : TO MAKE MONEY.Even the so-called free sites. Joe Lunardi has a reputation built by ESPN for whom he works. He developed his contacts by working as a broadcaster of St. Joseph, Pa. games. He's accurate to a degree and has a pretty wide network that feeds him but he has to dig for a lot of his stuff.
Pete Rose used to call The Post's (late) Earl Lawson "Scoops," because he used to beat the pants off his competition. Today, with the internet, twitter, Facebook and who knows what there are damn few scoops unless they are at Graeters. Sadly, today, there are no Haywood Hale Brouns, Edward R. Murrows, Walter Cronkites or their ilk. There are only wannabees. And they ain't.

Q posts this and #DropsTheMic or is it #DropsTheKeyboard?

In any case, well said as always. Reps.

[waggy]

I hope Brandon really does stay.

A big part of that though is I hope he progresses quite a bit too.

[XUMIOH12]

The thing is, those you teams you mentioned who don't have true points typically aren't very good.

Look at the top 25.

UK has Ulis.
Duke has Tyus Jones
Virginia has Perantes (sp?)
Villanova has Arcidiacano
Arizona has McConnell
Wisconsin has Jordan Taylor
Gonzaga has Pangos
Kansas has Frank Mason
ND has demetrius jackson
Wichita has Van Vleet
Iowa State has Monte Morris
Louisville has Q Snider
Oklahoma has Woodard
Baylor has Kenny Chery
Utah has Delon Wright
WVU has Staten
UNC has Paige
SMU has Nic Moore
Arkansas has Madden
Butler has Barlow
Georgetown has Smith-Rivera


The only team in the top 25 that doesn't really have a true point is Maryland. They use both Dez and Trimble in that role.

You are correct that there are a lot of college teams that don't have a true point. There just aren't a lot of good ones that don't.

Look I'd love it if Sumner ended up being able to run the point here. I just think it's a lot more likely he ends up playing off the ball.

Jordan Taylor??? hasn't played college basketball since 2012....

[LA Muskie]

Rick Broering who runs the site is a local guy. He's appeared on a few Cincinnati TV stations to discuss sports.

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but his main focus is Xavier, but he also reports on Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky high school football and basketball.

Brian Snow, who used to run the Xavier Scout page, is now a national writer for them, but he routinely still posts on the Xavier message board.
Correct. Rick is mostly Xavier and local HS football. Brian is a national Scout basketball recuiting "analyst" covering mostly the midwest -- both schools and recruits.

[X-band '01]

What a 2019 recruit had for breakfast is really not terribly interesting news.

Not if the recruit in question was Johnny Wolf (circa 2009).

[xu82]

I hope Brandon really does stay.

A big part of that though is I hope he progresses quite a bit too.

Waggy, I must say you're looking better!

Oh, and yeah, what you said...

[boozehound]

I hope Brandon really does stay.

A big part of that though is I hope he progresses quite a bit too.

I'm right there with you.

I really think Xavier is a pretty good situation for a PG. It's wide open next year. You are competing with a guy who was a pretty highly regarded recruit but is suffering what sounds like pretty severe tendonitis to the point that I'm not sure he's even practicing much this year, and another guy who was a 3 star recruit that has seen fairly limited playing time. It's not like you have an entrenched starter you have to beat out or a top 5 recruit coming in, and even if Austin gets the start there could very well be backup minutes available - particularly is Sumner ends up playing wing.

Add some talented teammates in guys like Blueitt, Reynolds, and Macura, to the mix and you have a pretty good situation for a PG.

[THRILLHOUSE]

Looks like Randolph is indeed transferring:

‏@BRandolph3 2m2 minutes ago
It's been a great two years at Xavier university I want to thank all the coaches. It's been a blessing being in the program. I look forward

@BRandolph3 1m1 minute ago
To what God has planned for me in the future

[bleedXblue]

Looks like Randolph is indeed transferring:

‏@BRandolph3 2m2 minutes ago
It's been a great two years at Xavier university I want to thank all the coaches. It's been a blessing being in the program. I look forward

@BRandolph3 1m1 minute ago
To what God has planned for me in the future


Good luck kid. Best wishes to your success.