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Dear Chris Mack and other members of the coaching staff,
As you know, the Creighton game could be the difference between making it to the dance or not. We're going to need everyone playing their best ball Saturday.
During practice this week, could you please remember to work on better decision making during fast breaks, better defense against the 3, better footwork and strokes from behind the arc, crisper passes to teammates, having shooters wait until at least one big is near the basket before launching a 3, better decision making when given the opportunity to shoot the final shot of the game and also please practice finishing strong.
That's all I've got for now, but some other poster might have some suggestions as well.
Thanks so much! And good luck!
OTRMUSKIE
03-04-2015, 01:26 AM
All things you work on at the beginning of the year. At this point what you see is what you get, basically same scenario as last year.
MHettel
03-04-2015, 01:47 AM
Dear Chris Mack and other members of the coaching staff,
As you know, the Creighton game could be the difference between making it to the dance or not. We're going to need everyone playing their best ball Saturday.
During practice this week, could you please remember to work on better decision making during fast breaks, better defense against the 3, better footwork and strokes from behind the arc, crisper passes to teammates, having shooters wait until at least one big is near the basket before launching a 3, better decision making when given the opportunity to shoot the final shot of the game and also please practice finishing strong.
That's all I've got for now, but some other poster might have some suggestions as well.
Thanks so much! And good luck!
Also, pray that the entire Creighton team gets a nasty case of "the runs." Actually, just focus on that, and all this basketball related stuff wont matter.
Juice
03-04-2015, 07:03 AM
I actually don't have any suggestions because they've be working on that stuff all year and they can coach a basketball team thirty times better than me.
D-West & PO-Z
03-04-2015, 08:40 AM
Wish you would have posted this at the beginning of the year, obviously Mack is incompetent and didnt know to work on these things.
I blame this season not being better on your procrastination IM4X.
xuwin
03-04-2015, 09:15 AM
Dear Chris Mack and other members of the coaching staff,
As you know, the Creighton game could be the difference between making it to the dance or not. We're going to need everyone playing their best ball Saturday.
During practice this week, could you please remember to work on better decision making during fast breaks, better defense against the 3, better footwork and strokes from behind the arc, crisper passes to teammates, having shooters wait until at least one big is near the basket before launching a 3, better decision making when given the opportunity to shoot the final shot of the game and also please practice finishing strong.
That's all I've got for now, but some other poster might have some suggestions as well.
Thanks so much! And good luck!
I'm sure they never thought of that.
DC Muskie
03-04-2015, 09:21 AM
We've been sending out a lot of memos lately. Did everyone get the memo about putting a cover sheet on your TPS reports?
D-West & PO-Z
03-04-2015, 09:22 AM
We've been sending out a lot of memos lately. Did everyone get the memo about putting a cover sheet on your TPS reports?
Yeah. 3 of em. FML.
DC Muskie
03-04-2015, 09:25 AM
Yeah. 3 of em. FML.
Alright then. I'll get back to playing Tetris.
I'm sure they never thought of that.
How sure?
Milhouse
03-04-2015, 11:45 AM
Times like this I hate the internet....
Xaveriana
03-04-2015, 01:48 PM
We've been sending out a lot of memos lately. Did everyone get the memo about putting a cover sheet on your TPS reports?
Message to Mack & team...
"yeah I'm gonna need you to come in and work this weekend...ok...right"
Wish you would have posted this at the beginning of the year, obviously Mack is incompetent and didnt know to work on these things.
I blame this season not being better on your procrastination IM4X.
Hey, better late then never, right.
Seriously though, my point was to call attention to those glaring issues the team is having, which obviously either aren't being addressed properly or at least aren't given enoug attention during practice - just in case they weren't all so obvious to the Mack and co.
And no problem... I'll take some of the blame and even some flak for starting this thread if it means the coaches and players will accept blame for underachieving and that they'll wake up and play and coach to the best of their abilities from here on out.
Hey, this is it. They've got 1 game to correct what they are doing wrong. There are no excuse for this team not to bring there best effort. Play smart and hustle their a$$es off.
I know and you know what this team's potential is. I think we all do. It's time for the coaches and team to live up to that potential now... Make themselves proud and make us all proud.
UCGRAD4X
03-06-2015, 09:57 AM
As a fellow 4X'er, I am glad you are bringing this up. This team needs to get their heads out of their collective arses and take to heart what you have mentioned hear. I have every expectation that they will see the light, play better and make fewer mistakes as a result. Only a renewed Musketeer squad can bring home a victory from Omaha. I sure hope they read this. Thanks IM4X.
Juice
03-06-2015, 11:10 AM
As a fellow 4X'er, I am glad you are bringing this up. This team needs to get their heads out of their collective arses and take to heart what you have mentioned hear. I have every expectation that they will see the light, play better and make fewer mistakes as a result. Only a renewed Musketeer squad can bring home a victory from Omaha. I sure hope they read this. Thanks IM4X.
I hope none of the players or coaches read this board and take any words to heart other than "good luck".
D-West & PO-Z
03-06-2015, 12:42 PM
I hope none of the players or coaches read this board and take any words to heart other than "good luck".
Same
wkrq59
03-06-2015, 02:05 PM
I hope none of the players or coaches read this board and take any words to heart other than "good luck".
Ditto
As a fellow 4X'er, I am glad you are bringing this up. This team needs to get their heads out of their collective arses and take to heart what you have mentioned hear. I have every expectation that they will see the light, play better and make fewer mistakes as a result. Only a renewed Musketeer squad can bring home a victory from Omaha. I sure hope they read this. Thanks IM4X.
Thank you, brother 4Xer!
I think they will bring a victory home too.
LA Muskie
03-06-2015, 03:00 PM
I hope none of the players or coaches read this board and take any words to heart other than "good luck".
I think this probably applies to every fan board in the universe.
D-West & PO-Z
03-06-2015, 03:07 PM
I think it is pretty safe to assume no coaches or players are reading this board. I think its even safer to assume if they are reading it, it is purely for laughs, they arent implementing anything in practice they saw on Xavierhoops.
mid major
03-06-2015, 04:20 PM
Bill Murray in "Meatballs"- "You jump...very very high"
LA Muskie
03-06-2015, 04:49 PM
I think it is pretty safe to assume no coaches or players are reading this board. I think its even safer to assume if they are reading it, it is purely for laughs, they arent implementing anything in practice they saw on Xavierhoops.
I don't think most would admit to it, but I'm fairly certain a good number of coaches, players, and their family members peruse their teams' fan boards. Curiosity is human nature, as is the desire for approval.
D-West & PO-Z
03-06-2015, 05:01 PM
If Chris Mack spends even 10 seconds on this message board (other than didnt he post something one year to hype people up for a game or something?) then I might have to switch to the "Chris Mack is terrible and he needs to go" side.
LA Muskie
03-06-2015, 05:06 PM
If Chris Mack spends even 10 seconds on this message board (other than didnt he post something one year to hype people up for a game or something?) then I might have to switch to the "Chris Mack is terrible and he needs to go" side.
The fact that Mack bothered to post on the board at all shows that he's aware of it. And if he's aware of it, you can assume that human nature might occasionally drive him to check it out. I doubt it's a regular thing at all, but I wouldn't be surprised at all to hear that he has at times looked to see what folks were saying.
xubrew
03-06-2015, 05:19 PM
I've tried calling and emailing Chris Mack several times to tell him what he was doing wrong, and what he needed to be doing instead. He never called or wrote back, so I was becoming a little concerned that my messages weren't getting through, so I actually went to his office to see him. They stopped me on my way in, and I tried to explain that I needed to talk to Chris Mack so I could tell him what he was doing wrong. They asked me to leave. I, again, tried to explain that I needed to talk to Chris Mack about all the things he was doing wrong, and they actually called security on me.
I'm starting to get the idea that he just doesn't want to talk to me and doesn't care about what's wrong. I don't get it.
waggy
03-06-2015, 07:08 PM
http://youtu.be/IjynbUNlvWU
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I've tried calling and emailing Chris Mack several times to tell him what he was doing wrong, and what he needed to be doing instead. He never called or wrote back, so I was becoming a little concerned that my messages weren't getting through, so I actually went to his office to see him. They stopped me on my way in, and I tried to explain that I needed to talk to Chris Mack so I could tell him what he was doing wrong. They asked me to leave. I, again, tried to explain that I needed to talk to Chris Mack about all the things he was doing wrong, and they actually called security on me.
I'm starting to get the idea that he just doesn't want to talk to me and doesn't care about what's wrong. I don't get it.
Do you have his autograph yet? Maybe on a restraining order?
Titanxman04
03-06-2015, 08:36 PM
So I'm now coaching a lacrosse team that finished 7th in the country last year, is returning 7 starters (out of 10 possible), and has over three capable lines of players I can throw at our opponents. It is composed of multiple players who were offered and accepted college scholarships on the DII level, and eventually transferred to this current program for one reason or another (though talent wasn't one of them). The expectations are high and we fully expect to compete for a national championship this season. This is by far and away the most talented group of players I've ever had the pleasure of working with.
As I introduce a new offense that is based on the pick and roll, these players (who have played for 5+ years) are struggling with that concept. Not so much how to do it, but the whole nature of it out on a lacrosse field. Despite me going over it several times for several practices, it's still something we need to work on. Does that make me an awful coach? Would getting a "memo" from someone outside the program help me realize how I'm missing the point?
Coaching, in my experience, is building good habits while breaking the bad ones. As much as I can preach to the guys as to how to "roll" or "slip" after a pick, it's what goes on between their ears as to how well they execute what I want them to do. Lacrosse has a lot in common with so many sports. I actually prefer having multi-sport athletes who also play hockey and basketball (concepts are quite similar in terms of movement, spacing, and teamwork/isolation plays). I feel I can at least argue then, that there are similarities when you want players to be aggressive going to the goal/hoop and playing conservative in looking for the "best shot".
So when I find it somewhat frustrating that some yokel (said with all due respect) decides to post a "memo" to the coaching staff (who are FAR more qualified than any of us) on how to coach a division one basketball team, you understand, right?
Titanxman04
03-06-2015, 08:37 PM
I've tried calling and emailing Chris Mack several times to tell him what he was doing wrong, and what he needed to be doing instead. He never called or wrote back, so I was becoming a little concerned that my messages weren't getting through, so I actually went to his office to see him. They stopped me on my way in, and I tried to explain that I needed to talk to Chris Mack so I could tell him what he was doing wrong. They asked me to leave. I, again, tried to explain that I needed to talk to Chris Mack about all the things he was doing wrong, and they actually called security on me.
I'm starting to get the idea that he just doesn't want to talk to me and doesn't care about what's wrong. I don't get it.
Priceless. Public reps, damn the man.
So I'm now coaching a lacrosse team that finished 7th in the country last year, is returning 7 starters (out of 10 possible), and has over three capable lines of players I can throw at our opponents. It is composed of multiple players who were offered and accepted college scholarships on the DII level, and eventually transferred to this current program for one reason or another (though talent wasn't one of them). The expectations are high and we fully expect to compete for a national championship this season. This is by far and away the most talented group of players I've ever had the pleasure of working with.
As I introduce a new offense that is based on the pick and roll, these players (who have played for 5+ years) are struggling with that concept. Not so much how to do it, but the whole nature of it out on a lacrosse field. Despite me going over it several times for several practices, it's still something we need to work on. Does that make me an awful coach? Would getting a "memo" from someone outside the program help me realize how I'm missing the point?
Coaching, in my experience, is building good habits while breaking the bad ones. As much as I can preach to the guys as to how to "roll" or "slip" after a pick, it's what goes on between their ears as to how well they execute what I want them to do. Lacrosse has a lot in common with so many sports. I actually prefer having multi-sport athletes who also play hockey and basketball (concepts are quite similar in terms of movement, spacing, and teamwork/isolation plays). I feel I can at least argue then, that there are similarities when you want players to be aggressive going to the goal/hoop and playing conservative in looking for the "best shot".
So when I find it somewhat frustrating that some yokel (said with all due respect) decides to post a "memo" to the coaching staff (who are FAR more qualified than any of us) on how to coach a division one basketball team, you understand, right?
It's funny, coaching is so different from playing. Some of the best players can't coach their way out of a wet paper bag. Some of the best coaches never played at any significant level. Coaching seems to be more about communication skills. You need to know what you're talking about, but it's even more important to express it in a way they can relate to. My favorite tennis pro (by far!) played at a pretty high level, but the reason I like him is he says things in a way that resonates with me. It just makes sense when he says it, and it works. Others have told me the same basic things, but it didn't sink in as well. A great coach know how to "connect" with all kinds of different people. They all learn and respond in different ways. It's an art.
Titanxman04
03-06-2015, 10:08 PM
It's funny, coaching is so different from playing. Some of the best players can't coach their way out of a wet paper bag. Some of the best coaches never played at any significant level. Coaching seems to be more about communication skills. You need to know what you're talking about, but it's even more important to express it in a way they can relate to. My favorite tennis pro (by far!) played at a pretty high level, but the reason I like him is he says things in a way that resonates with me. It just makes sense when he says it, and it works. Others have told me the same basic things, but it didn't sink in as well. A great coach know how to "connect" with all kinds of different people. They all learn and respond in different ways. It's an art.
I think it is. I am definitely still learning more about lacrosse and consider myself a student of the game. It's great that it's finally being broadcasted more often on the major networks. (By the way, go to ESPN3 and watch the Princeton and Johns Hopkins game from last week. INCREDIBLE.)
I've taken my bumps and bruises as a coach when it comes to communicating with players. It's not an easy task. And in the end, you can explain the same thing fifty different ways and the players sometimes just don't listen. The same goes with parents and their kids. Should we send out a memo to parents about how they talk to their kids? As someone who is going to be a teacher soon, should I get memo's from people outside the school who one went there on how to teach?
It just shows an incredible arrogance to believe that the coaches don't think about these obvious things. It isn't always the coach. It falls on the coach, sure. I won't deny that. However to believe that it's 100% on Mack for players making repeated mistakes while NOT being in film sessions, practices, the warm-ups, the flights home, etc...
It's just interesting to me.
Titanxman04
03-06-2015, 10:11 PM
Another thing to note:
Whether you like Coach K or not, we all would love to have the success Duke has had. He has said that he has never coached the same way every year. Each year has a new team and it forces him to be a different coach. He admits that sometimes it's a struggle to get the kids on board even with his track record of success.
It just shows an incredible arrogance to believe that the coaches don't think about these obvious things. It isn't always the coach. It falls on the coach, sure. I won't deny that. However to believe that it's 100% on Mack for players making repeated mistakes while NOT being in film sessions, practices, the warm-ups, the flights home, etc...
As a coach it must be frustratrating to hear such stuff. This, I'm sure, was mostly in jest and not meant as a personal attack on anyone. Nothing arrogant about it. I'm generally a Mack supporter, but you have to admit we play some teams that look like well oiled machines, where we are hit or miss way too often. Some of that's on the players and the youth, and some of that is on how things are communicated. I hope the players progress, as well as the coach.
paulxu
03-06-2015, 10:33 PM
Any of your players coming to Limestone College here in the Upstate?
(men's NCAA II 2014 Lacrosse champions)
Titanxman04
03-06-2015, 10:40 PM
As a coach it must be frustratrating to hear such stuff. This, I'm sure, was mostly in jest and not meant as a personal attack on anyone. Nothing arrogant about it. I'm generally a Mack supporter, but you have to admit we play some teams that look like well oiled machines, where we are hit or miss way too often. Some of that's on the players and the youth, and some of that is on how things are communicated. I hope the players progress, as well as the coach.
I am the first to admit that when Dee drives the lane against three and gets his shit swatted into the third row, it drives me crazy. Poor decisions, lack of defensive rotations or communications, etc... It all kills me and takes time off my already shortened lifespan.
I think you're right, though. There are a lot of factors. We have 7 new pieces to the puzzle. Two are red shirts, one a transfer from IU, and two seniors. We expect several freshmen to contribute consistently. Other teams we play don't exactly have the same hills to climb that we do. Nor do we have the same battles that they have.
I don't think it's fair to say "we aren't functional like Nova" or we "don't bring it like Butler". We AREN'T those teams. We have different players who have different strengths and weaknesses. We have different dynamics. We have different coaches who communicate different and different players who hear differently. When we're good...damn, we are good. When we're bad, it's painful to watch and takes a lot of energy for me to keep the game on tv. It happens with relatively young teams.
The Xavier teams of recent memory who were successful, went on deep runs or owned a (admittedly weaker) conference year in and year out, were senior laden. They had juniors to back up the seniors. Before that, my freshman year at X, Burrell was our leading scorer. He was a freshman and we didn't make the tournament that year. The next year we needed a run in the A10's to make it as a 14 seed. We rode that wave to nearly beat Butthole Adam Morrison and Gonzaga.
Point is this. When you rely on freshmen, you have to understand that they aren't all Derrick Rose, John Wall, or Anthony Davis. We were spoiled in the A10. We'll get back there again. Have faith.
Titanxman04
03-06-2015, 10:42 PM
Any of your players coming to Limestone College here in the Upstate?
(men's NCAA II 2014 Lacrosse champions)
Coached a kid in Cincinnati who almost committed to Limestone. Great program. His mother sadly passed after a rather routine procedure (heart complications) and he ended up going to a school that had a more religious affiliation. He transferred from there to Ohio University to be closer to his family after his freshman year.
That school, Limestone, is a factory of student-athletes (85% of the total student body).
mohr5150
03-06-2015, 10:49 PM
I am the first to admit that when Dee drives the lane against three and gets his shit swatted into the third row, it drives me crazy. Poor decisions, lack of defensive rotations or communications, etc... It all kills me and takes time off my already shortened lifespan.
I think you're right, though. There are a lot of factors. We have 7 new pieces to the puzzle. Two are red shirts, one a transfer from IU, and two seniors. We expect several freshmen to contribute consistently. Other teams we play don't exactly have the same hills to climb that we do. Nor do we have the same battles that they have.
I don't think it's fair to say "we aren't functional like Nova" or we "don't bring it like Butler". We AREN'T those teams. We have different players who have different strengths and weaknesses. We have different dynamics. We have different coaches who communicate different and different players who hear differently. When we're good...damn, we are good. When we're bad, it's painful to watch and takes a lot of energy for me to keep the game on tv. It happens with relatively young teams.
The Xavier teams of recent memory who were successful, went on deep runs or owned a (admittedly weaker) conference year in and year out, were senior laden. They had juniors to back up the seniors. Before that, my freshman year at X, Burrell was our leading scorer. He was a freshman and we didn't make the tournament that year. The next year we needed a run in the A10's to make it as a 14 seed. We rode that wave to nearly beat Butthole Adam Morrison and Gonzaga.
Point is this. When you rely on freshmen, you have to understand that they aren't all Derrick Rose, John Wall, or Anthony Davis. We were spoiled in the A10. We'll get back there again. Have faith.
Public reps, Titan. The man is holding me down. I couldn't agree with you more about the state of X's program.
Coaching gets easier with good players. (Shocking, I know!) My kids high school coach was so bad they changed to other spring sports their senior years despite being the top dog in hoops. The younger one turned to soccer, while the older turned to girls. The coach was/is a fool and everyone knew it. After we left he became a genius! He also had a kid being recruited by everyone from XU to Kentucky. He was interviewed as often as he could manage, and was glad that after a decade the kids had started to buy into what they were teaching. After the 2nd ranked kid in the state transferred, the kids were not so invested. He's brilliant again.... because of a shooting guard who just committed to Louisville. Recruit well, as Mack does, and you will have a leg up. It doesn't get you all the way though, without some actual good coaching.(I am NOT saying they don't get good coaching, but all of life is a work in progress.)
Xavier
03-07-2015, 01:15 AM
It's funny, coaching is so different from playing. Some of the best players can't coach their way out of a wet paper bag. Some of the best coaches never played at any significant level. Coaching seems to be more about communication skills. You need to know what you're talking about, but it's even more important to express it in a way they can relate to. My favorite tennis pro (by far!) played at a pretty high level, but the reason I like him is he says things in a way that resonates with me. It just makes sense when he says it, and it works. Others have told me the same basic things, but it didn't sink in as well. A great coach know how to "connect" with all kinds of different people. They all learn and respond in different ways. It's an art.
I agree communication is a huge part of coaching, maybe it's the biggest part as titanxman points out. Having said that, it's not a defense of the current coaching staff. All this conversation about communication just says is either Mack knows what he is doing and just can't communicate it well (which still means it's the coaches fault) or he knows what he is doing and communicates it well but the players just aren't talented enough.
I think it is. I am definitely still learning more about lacrosse and consider myself a student of the game. It's great that it's finally being broadcasted more often on the major networks. (By the way, go to ESPN3 and watch the Princeton and Johns Hopkins game from last week. INCREDIBLE.)
I've taken my bumps and bruises as a coach when it comes to communicating with players. It's not an easy task. And in the end, you can explain the same thing fifty different ways and the players sometimes just don't listen. The same goes with parents and their kids. Should we send out a memo to parents about how they talk to their kids? As someone who is going to be a teacher soon, should I get memo's from people outside the school who one went there on how to teach?
It just shows an incredible arrogance to believe that the coaches don't think about these obvious things. It isn't always the coach. It falls on the coach, sure. I won't deny that. However to believe that it's 100% on Mack for players making repeated mistakes while NOT being in film sessions, practices, the warm-ups, the flights home, etc...
It's just interesting to me.
Hey Titan... How about taking your own advice and...R-E-L-A-X!
You know what's interesting to me... when you say someone who only has good intentions shows arrogance after you mention that you are coaching a team that finished 7th in the country last year. What's also interesting to me is that you are taking something as a personal attack on you when it wasn't even meant as an attack on Coach Mack or the X players.
Just because you can't get through to some of your players after trying fifty different ways (apparently I've hit a nerve), doesn't make it right for you to unleash that frustration on this board and be disrespectful to posters.
Furthermore, I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't twist this thread into being about something that was not the intent. You would be wise to listen to the very rational comments made by xu82... and maybe step back from whatever stressful situation is eating at you.
If there is anything I regret about starting this thread, it's that I chose the title "Memo to Mack." I did it because it rolled off the tongue nicely. It was simple and catchy. In hindsight, I now read it and admit I can see how, if read in a certain way, the tone could come across preachy, a little snarky or even a bit condescending. Honestly, it was not my intention to do so. It was my intent to get the point across, "Come on now guys. It's now or never. You've gotta play smart and win this next game and these are the things (you know) that need to be fixed in practice if you are to win Saturday and ultimately make it to the dance."
Is there a sense of urgency, even frustration that I was feeling when I wrote the OP? You're damn right!!! These guys have enough talent to make it into the tournament and possibly to the Sweet Sixteen (and beyond) if they can just get it together. There is a beautiful opportunity tomorrow for X to make sure they are on the right side of the bubble.
They can squandered it and talk about what could have been or they can Kick a$$ and finish this season the way they are capable of doing.
Juice
03-07-2015, 03:02 AM
Hey Titan... How about taking your own advice and...R-E-L-A-X!
You know what's interesting to me... when you say someone who only has good intentions shows arrogance after you mention that you are coaching a team that finished 7th in the country last year. What's also interesting to me is that you are taking something as a personal attack on you when it wasn't even meant as an attack on Coach Mack or the X players.
Just because you can't get through to some of your players after trying fifty different ways (apparently I've hit a nerve), doesn't make it right for you to unleash that frustration on this board and be disrespectful to posters.
Furthermore, I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't twist this thread into being about something that was not the intent. You would be wise to listen to the very rational comments made by xu82... and maybe step back from whatever stressful situation is eating at you.
If there is anything I regret about starting this thread, it's that I chose the title "Memo to Mack." I did it because it rolled off the tongue nicely. It was simple and catchy. In hindsight, I now read it and admit I can see how, if read in a certain way, the tone could come across preachy, a little snarky or even a bit condescending. Honestly, it was not my intention to do so. It was my intent to get the point across, "Come on now guys. It's now or never. You've gotta play smart and win this next game and these are the things (you know) that need to be fixed in practice if you are to win Saturday and ultimately make it to the dance."
Is there a sense of urgency, even frustration that I was feeling when I wrote the OP? You're damn right!!! These guys have enough talent to make it into the tournament and possibly to the Sweet Sixteen (and beyond) if they can just get it together. There is a beautiful opportunity tomorrow for X to make sure they are on the right side of the bubble.
They can squandered it and talk about what could have been or they can Kick a$$ and finish this season the way they are capable of doing.
Dude, your thread sucked. You look like a psycho whether that was your intent or not.
Xavier
03-07-2015, 11:29 AM
Is there a sense of urgency, even frustration that I was feeling when I wrote the OP? You're damn right!!! These guys have enough talent to make it into the tournament and possibly to the Sweet Sixteen (and beyond) if they can just get it together. There is a beautiful opportunity tomorrow for X to make sure they are on the right side of the bubble.
They can squandered it and talk about what could have been or they can Kick a$$ and finish this season the way they are capable of doing.
"If they can just get it together". Some poster (can't think of who, could've been you) Kept saying "if we play hard defense, run our offense well with few turnovers and go after rebounds we can definitely beat_____" either way, what you're saying is similar. "Just get it together" is the difference between average and good teams, every average team can make that argument.
waggy
03-07-2015, 07:31 PM
Thank God this memo reached coach Mack in time!
Thank God this memo reached coach Mack in time!
Damn spam filter almost cost the season!
waggy
03-07-2015, 07:35 PM
Damn spam filter almost cost the season!
Actually it's Proof Mack is getting coaching pointers on this board!
Actually it's Proof Mack is getting coaching pointers on this board!
I wonder who he has on ignore?
Muskie
03-07-2015, 10:34 PM
The fact that Mack bothered to post on the board at all shows that he's aware of it. And if he's aware of it, you can assume that human nature might occasionally drive him to check it out. I doubt it's a regular thing at all, but I wouldn't be surprised at all to hear that he has at times looked to see what folks were saying.
The university and administration are very aware of all of the message boards.
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Titanxman04
03-08-2015, 08:24 AM
Hey Titan... How about taking your own advice and...R-E-L-A-X!
You know what's interesting to me... when you say someone who only has good intentions shows arrogance after you mention that you are coaching a team that finished 7th in the country last year. What's also interesting to me is that you are taking something as a personal attack on you when it wasn't even meant as an attack on Coach Mack or the X players.
Just because you can't get through to some of your players after trying fifty different ways (apparently I've hit a nerve), doesn't make it right for you to unleash that frustration on this board and be disrespectful to posters.
Furthermore, I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't twist this thread into being about something that was not the intent. You would be wise to listen to the very rational comments made by xu82... and maybe step back from whatever stressful situation is eating at you.
If there is anything I regret about starting this thread, it's that I chose the title "Memo to Mack." I did it because it rolled off the tongue nicely. It was simple and catchy. In hindsight, I now read it and admit I can see how, if read in a certain way, the tone could come across preachy, a little snarky or even a bit condescending. Honestly, it was not my intention to do so. It was my intent to get the point across, "Come on now guys. It's now or never. You've gotta play smart and win this next game and these are the things (you know) that need to be fixed in practice if you are to win Saturday and ultimately make it to the dance."
Is there a sense of urgency, even frustration that I was feeling when I wrote the OP? You're damn right!!! These guys have enough talent to make it into the tournament and possibly to the Sweet Sixteen (and beyond) if they can just get it together. There is a beautiful opportunity tomorrow for X to make sure they are on the right side of the bubble.
They can squandered it and talk about what could have been or they can Kick a$$ and finish this season the way they are capable of doing.
Tone is a hell of a thing to interpret. I think we both misread each other's tone on here.
I tend not to post "angry" when I post something on here. I don't think it's ever smart to do such a thing - after all, I have had the pleasure of meeting several on this board, and despite their efforts to avoid me in public, I would like future get togethers to be enjoyable.
I mention the my team finished so well last year not to brag, but to point out that they are skilled enough to know the game and be successful at it. The point of my post was to signal to you or others that despite being talented, communicating basic concepts can be difficult for them at the same time. I didn't get them to where they finished last year, nor would I ever try to take credit for that. Just again, trying to communicate that they are talented, and still make mistakes despite me trying to coach them to do otherwise.
Credit to you for admitting an error in tone when you started the thread. I appreciate that. I think I get frustrated when people on this board or scout think that they know more than the coaching staff. I get defensive about it because it's happened to me before.
I have started off seasons 0-7 before only to finish strong. However, during hat stretch I have had parents question what I'm doing or how I'm having my team play, when in the end it's a process to get the kids to "see the light". When those things start clicking, it all comes together and the team ends the season on a number of high notes. When they don't, its game after game of frustration and disappointment. Not too mention, critics (even on the youth level for some reason).
Hope that clears up my position. I'll buy you a beer sometime and we can shoot the shit about it together.
bleedXblue
03-08-2015, 10:06 AM
The university and administration are very aware of all of the message boards.
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I can't imagine they take any of them seriously. Why would they.
I can't imagine they take any of them seriously. Why would they.
They do, and they should. Consider some of the nasty posts we've all seen over the years about players, players' families, members of the administration, etc., not to mention the possibility of recruiting violations that can occur. Trust me, we've had to have chats with XU's administration (including compliance) over the years for various reasons.
DC Muskie
03-08-2015, 10:20 AM
I think it's sort of funny the idea that Xavier or any college athletic program would take what is said here seriously. Does that mean they take what is said during a radio show seriously?
If I happen to walk up to Mack and unsolicited just start telling him in person all the great ideas I think should happen with the team, does he stop and listen to me and take me seriously? What if I scheduled an appointment? Does he take it?
But if I write here, all of sudden it's serious. I just don't get that. I haven't read GG takes on this program for years, but Graham is supposed to take seriously what he writes here?
Is this how a program is run? If so, how do I gain more influence? Because I got some GREAT ideas.
Masterofreality
03-08-2015, 11:49 AM
I think it's sort of funny the idea that Xavier or any college athletic program would take what is said here seriously. Does that mean they take what is said during a radio show seriously?
If I happen to walk up to Mack and unsolicited just start telling him in person all the great ideas I think should happen with the team, does he stop and listen to me and take me seriously? What if I scheduled an appointment? Does he take it?
But if I write here, all of sudden it's serious. I just don't get that. I haven't read GG takes on this program for years, but Graham is supposed to take seriously what he writes here?
Is this how a program is run? If so, how do I gain more influence? Because I got some GREAT ideas.
Send Coach a Tweet. He might answer ya. ;-)
DC Muskie
03-08-2015, 11:55 AM
I want to go on record saying no coach should ever listen to what I have to say.
D-West & PO-Z
03-08-2015, 02:27 PM
I think it's sort of funny the idea that Xavier or any college athletic program would take what is said here seriously. Does that mean they take what is said during a radio show seriously?
If I happen to walk up to Mack and unsolicited just start telling him in person all the great ideas I think should happen with the team, does he stop and listen to me and take me seriously? What if I scheduled an appointment? Does he take it?
But if I write here, all of sudden it's serious. I just don't get that. I haven't read GG takes on this program for years, but Graham is supposed to take seriously what he writes here?
Is this how a program is run? If so, how do I gain more influence? Because I got some GREAT ideas.
Yeah I dont get it.
I get maybe administration looking into the boards or compliance director or something but I cant picture any coaches looking at this board or players really, except, like I said earlier, maybe for some laughs. I mean when we have guys on message board trying to seriously give Mack advice on in game strategy, etc, or harping on timeouts, Mack could only laugh reading this stuff.
(Not that its wrong or bad of us to discus those things, that is what the board is for, but I think coaches would find it fairly amusing)
Muskie
03-08-2015, 02:37 PM
They do, and they should. Consider some of the nasty posts we've all seen over the years about players, players' families, members of the administration, etc., not to mention the possibility of recruiting violations that can occur. Trust me, we've had to have chats with XU's administration (including compliance) over the years for various reasons.
That's correct.
94GRAD
03-08-2015, 02:39 PM
I want to go on record saying no coach should ever listen to what I have to say.
I'm sure there are a lot of people who don't listen to what you have to say.:wink::lol:
DC Muskie
03-08-2015, 03:28 PM
I'm sure there are a lot of people who don't listen to what you have to say.:wink::lol:
Too numerous to list here...
Masterofreality
03-08-2015, 03:38 PM
I'm sure there are a lot of people who don't listen to what you have to say.:wink::lol:
Too numerous to list here...
I am not among them.
Tone is a hell of a thing to interpret. I think we both misread each other's tone on here.
I tend not to post "angry" when I post something on here. I don't think it's ever smart to do such a thing - after all, I have had the pleasure of meeting several on this board, and despite their efforts to avoid me in public, I would like future get togethers to be enjoyable.
I mention the my team finished so well last year not to brag, but to point out that they are skilled enough to know the game and be successful at it. The point of my post was to signal to you or others that despite being talented, communicating basic concepts can be difficult for them at the same time. I didn't get them to where they finished last year, nor would I ever try to take credit for that. Just again, trying to communicate that they are talented, and still make mistakes despite me trying to coach them to do otherwise.
Credit to you for admitting an error in tone when you started the thread. I appreciate that. I think I get frustrated when people on this board or scout think that they know more than the coaching staff. I get defensive about it because it's happened to me before.
I have started off seasons 0-7 before only to finish strong. However, during hat stretch I have had parents question what I'm doing or how I'm having my team play, when in the end it's a process to get the kids to "see the light". When those things start clicking, it all comes together and the team ends the season on a number of high notes. When they don't, its game after game of frustration and disappointment. Not too mention, critics (even on the youth level for some reason).
Hope that clears up my position. I'll buy you a beer sometime and we can shoot the shit about it together.
That does clear things up and I really appreciate your response. It means a lot.
You have proven to me to be a class act and I welcome your invite for a drink and conversation one day and I wish you the best of luck with your season.
Cheers!
I want to go on record saying no coach should ever listen to what I have to say.
And I want to go on record as seconding what you said, despite your Award Winning experience.
That might also include some (ALL) posters here.
They do, and they should. Consider some of the nasty posts we've all seen over the years about players, players' families, members of the administration, etc., not to mention the possibility of recruiting violations that can occur. Trust me, we've had to have chats with XU's administration (including compliance) over the years for various reasons.
So, this could be... like, an actual job? Hell, I'm already here, I'll be glad to turn any or all of you in for a paycheck!
boozehound
03-09-2015, 07:48 PM
They do, and they should. Consider some of the nasty posts we've all seen over the years about players, players' families, members of the administration, etc., not to mention the possibility of recruiting violations that can occur. Trust me, we've had to have chats with XU's administration (including compliance) over the years for various reasons.
I don't like the idea of coaches and players reading this board, but I do like the administration reading it. Especially Luther Smith. Do you hear that Luther? You are a total clown who would have been fired from any profession outside of Academia for gross ineptitude.
Titanxman04
03-09-2015, 07:56 PM
That does clear things up and I really appreciate your response. It means a lot.
You have proven to me to be a class act and I welcome your invite for a drink and conversation one day and I wish you the best of luck with your season.
Cheers!
See, you're full of sh*t. And I only drink with degenerates. Ha.
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