XAVIER vs VILLANOVA

[MADXSTER]

1654 VS 1655

Xavier University Musketeers (18-11) (8-8) RPI 30 SOS 18

W Northern Arizona 93-60
W Long Beach State 97-74
W Stephen F Austin 81-63
W Murray State 89-62
W San Diego Toreros 82-71
L UTEP Miners 77-73
L Long Beach State 73-70
W Alabama 97-84
W IUPUI Jaquars 66-43
W Missouri Tigers 74-58
L Auburn Tigers 89-88 2OT
W Florida Gulf Coast 71-57
W Georgetown Hoyas 70-53
L DePaul Blue Demons 71-68
W Seton Hall Pirates 69-58
L Butler Bulldogs 88-76
L Villanova Wildcats 88-75
W Marquette Golden Eagles 62-58
L Providence Friars 69-66 OT
W DePaul Blue Demons 89-76
W Georgetown Hoyas 66-53
L Seton Hall Pirates 90-82
L Creighton Bluejays 79-72 OT
W Providence Friars 78-69
W Marquette Golden Eagles 64-44
L St Johns Red Storm 78-70
W Cincinnati Bearcats 59-57
W Butler Bulldogs 73-56
L St Johns Red Storm 58-57


vs Villanova Wildcats (26-2) (13-2) RPI 5 SOS 30
W Lehigh 66-77
W Maryland Eastern Shore 81-44
W Bucknell H 72-65
W VCU 53-77 W
W Michigan 55-60
W Delaware 78-47
W La Salle 70-84
W Saint Joseph's 74-46
W Illinois 59-73
W Temple 85-62
W Syracuse 82-77
W NJIT 92-67
W Butler 67-55
L Seton Hall 66-61
W St. John's 72-90
W DePaul 81-64
W Xavier 88-75
W Penn 47-62
L Georgetown 78-58
W Creighton 71-50
W DePaul 55-68
W Marquette 70-52
W Georgetown 69-53
W Providence 68-74
W Butler 65-68
W Seton Hall 80-54
W Marquette 76-87
W Providence 89-61

Saturday Feb. 28, 2015 2:00 p.m. ET at Cintas
Television: Fox National
Radio: 550 WKRC

[JAPER]

With the exception of the game at g'town/hall, Villanova has taken the rest of the big east out to woodshed on a very consistent basis. Hardly any challenges in the point spread differences when the clock reads zeros. That's a strong sign for them heading into March. I thought I read somewhere that the amount of points you win games by correlates well with advancing in the ncaa. X has some matchup issues to address in this game. Bring it home Seniors!

[LadyMuskie]

Dear Villanova:

You're gonna lose!

1656

Love, Xavier

[JAPER]

I feel like our guards have to rebound like their lives depend on it.

[xu82]

Dear Villanova:

You're gonna lose!

1656

Love, Xavier
For the record, I am generally AGAINST punching children. I know, I'm an extremist. But I have my limits. That kid might be over the line...

[bobbiemcgee]

I feel like our guards have to rebound like their lives depend on it.


They do.

[Musketeer_15]

Another thing to note about the importance of this game, a win solidifies another year where we finish .500 or better in conference play. I forget what the current streak is but it is was of the most impressive long-term streaks we have had.

[Xville]

We are going to win this game. Senior Day, Top 6 team in the building, A win and we are most certainly in....Sorry Nova, you lose.....good day Sir!

[XMuskieFTW]

Another thing to note about the importance of this game, a win solidifies another year where we finish .500 or better in conference play. I forget what the current streak is but it is was of the most impressive long-term streaks we have had.

I think this year would make 32 straight.

[SemajParlor]

Will the students storm when we win? That's the real question.

[X-band '01]

This would be 33 in a row. 1981-82 was the last year with a losing record in conference play (1-9 in the Midwestern City Conference).

[kyxu]

Will the students storm when we win? That's the real question.

I've been wondering that. If Xavier were to be victorious on Saturday, I would imagine they still would not, since Cintas has never had a court storm in its existence, other than the "controlled" versions whenever we won the regular season A-10 titles in the past.

If Xavier were to win on a bucket at the buzzer, however, I guess anything is possible.

EDIT: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Xavier's had a genuine court storm since winning the A-10 Tournament in 2006 at US Bank Arena.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I've been wondering that. If Xavier were to be victorious on Saturday, I would imagine they still would not, since Cintas has never had a court storm in its existence, other than the "controlled" versions whenever we won the regular season A-10 titles in the past.

If Xavier were to win on a bucket at the buzzer, however, I guess anything is possible.

EDIT: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Xavier's had a genuine court storm since winning the A-10 Tournament in 2006 at US Bank Arena.

I dont ever remember a court storming at Cintas. Is this because our students just havent done it or because security at Cintas prevents it?

[kyxu]

I dont ever remember a court storming at Cintas. Is this because our students just havent done it or because security at Cintas prevents it?

A little bit of both, I'd say.

[bjf123]

Will the students storm when we win? That's the real question.

That would be embarrassing.


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[D-West & PO-Z]

A little bit of both, I'd say.

I would think if we beat Nova it would be as good as time as any to storm the court, I'll try to pay attention WHEN we win after the buzzer sounds. I have a feeling that security prevents it.

For any current or recent past students at X do/did they ever say anything about not being allowed to storm the court and if so did they threaten punishment to those who did? Was it ever discussed?

[D-West & PO-Z]

That would be embarrassing.


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I am assuming you then think anytime any team storms on any other team it is embarrassing, is that correct?

[BMoreX]

I would think if we beat Nova it would be as good as time as any to storm the court, I'll try to pay attention WHEN we win after the buzzer sounds. I have a feeling that security prevents it.

For any current or recent past students at X do/did they ever say anything about not being allowed to storm the court and if so did they threaten punishment to those who did? Was it ever discussed?

A big part I think also is the fact that we haven't had many top ten opponents at Cintas that would give the students cause to storm.

[Xville]

I'm one who thinks that the court storming has gotten a little bit out of hand. However, when Xavier wins on Saturday, I think that it would be warranted. It's a top 6 team, its senior day, it punches our ticket to the dance, we are unranked. I don't think the court storming will happen because security is ay too tight at the Cintas for it to happen, but if it did and they don't do it stupidly like K state did, why not?

[kyxu]

A big part I think also is the fact that we haven't had many top ten opponents at Cintas that would give the students cause to storm.

Another big reason.

Off the top of my head, I can think of just two top-10 teams we have defeated at Cintas - #10 UC in 2004 during "the run" and #9 Creighton last year.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I'm one who thinks that the court storming has gotten a little bit out of hand. However, when Xavier wins on Saturday, I think that it would be warranted. It's a top 6 team, its senior day, it punches our ticket to the dance, we are unranked. I don't think the court storming will happen because security is ay too tight at the Cintas for it to happen, but if it did and they don't do it stupidly like K state did, why not?

I agree, I dont think it would be embarrassing at all. Lets not act like we are some sort of program who should be embarrassed by court storming. Duke should be embarrassed about that, not XU. We are an unranked bubble team who will be playing the #6 team in the country at home on senior day. I would not be embarrassed is the students stormed the court.

[xu82]

This would be 33 in a row. 1981-82 was the last year with a losing record in conference play (1-9 in the Midwestern City Conference).

I didn't remember the exact stat, but I DO remember the feeling that gives you. Rather uninspiring...

[Xville]

Another big reason.

Off the top of my head, I can think of just two top-10 teams we have defeated at Cintas - #10 UC in 2004 during "the run" and #9 Creighton last year.

So, I looked back and I couldn't find what happened the first season at Cintas during the 2000-2001 season but since our second season at Cintas our record against ranked teams is 11-7....and you are correct the only top teams we have beaten were #10 UC and #9 Creighton. So, Villanova on Saturday will be our biggest scalp.

Other wins against ranked teams at Cintas were:

#25 Georgetown,#19 Seton Hall, and #19 Butler this year
#15 Creighton, #16 Dayton, #19 UC, #23 Richmond, #19 Memphis, #16 SLU

Highest Ranked teams we have ever played at Cintas were #6 Villanova last year and #6 St. Joe's during the year of the run.

[Milhouse]

So we've only beaten 11 ranked teams in Cintas and 3 of those have come this year?


God this conference is awesome.

[OH.X.MI]

Hell I might run down onto the court from section 206 if we win. Hope I don't embarrass anyone!!

[xufandownsouth]

I would think if we beat Nova it would be as good as time as any to storm the court, I'll try to pay attention WHEN we win after the buzzer sounds. I have a feeling that security prevents it.

For any current or recent past students at X do/did they ever say anything about not being allowed to storm the court and if so did they threaten punishment to those who did? Was it ever discussed?

I'm not sure how many students will be present. This weekend starts spring break for them. Nothing was ever really discussed as to storming the court and no punishment was threatened. I do recall 1 or 2 games in my 4 years there where a small group of students were ready to storm the court, but they lacked the backing of the rest of the student section. The security also were giving them looks and shaking their head. Other than that, I just don't think the students have the urge for some reason to storm the court.

[nuts4xu]

Security has never allowed a court storming, and I would be very surprised if they do this weekend. I can't remember which game it was, but the last time I thought we had the potential for a "court storming"moment, the Cintas Center had at least twice the security (if not more). They surrounded the court, and I just don't think it is possible.

I stormed the court at UD Arena in 2004, and stomped the UD logo, while we celebrated the A-10 championship. It was a blast. I understand why they want them to stop, and the potential for wrong doing in the midst of mayhem. It is always a few bad apples that ruins it for everyone.

[Masterofreality]

I dont ever remember a court storming at Cintas. Is this because our students just havent done it or because security at Cintas prevents it?

Because we act like we've been there before.

[paulxu]

Court storming December, 2009, home court Gardens over #1 Bearpussies.

[Masterofreality]

Court storming December, 2009, home court Gardens over #1 Bearpussies.

1999

[paulxu]

Have another bourbon Paul, and take more care when typing.

[Masterofreality]

Have another bourbon Paul, and take more care when typing.

What? '94 Grad didn't feed you enough?

[Juice]

The court was stormed when X won the A10 tournament in 2006 in US Bank Arena

[D-West & PO-Z]

Security has never allowed a court storming, and I would be very surprised if they do this weekend. I can't remember which game it was, but the last time I thought we had the potential for a "court storming"moment, the Cintas Center had at least twice the security (if not more). They surrounded the court, and I just don't think it is possible.

I stormed the court at UD Arena in 2004, and stomped the UD logo, while we celebrated the A-10 championship. It was a blast. I understand why they want them to stop, and the potential for wrong doing in the midst of mayhem. It is always a few bad apples that ruins it for everyone.

I did as well. Well it was more of a moseying down than a storming as I was in the upper deck. Actually not that I think about it I think maybe I did that for the game against St. Joes instead of the championship game against UD? Or both? My memory is terrible I guess. I do remember my buddies little brother got Jameer Nelson's shoe that he threw up in the stands.

[mohr5150]

I stormed the court when Brian Grant was a senior and we beat Thuggins in the infamous handshake game. Good times. I obviously wasn't the only one:)

[GIMMFD]

As a current student, the security is way too tight to storm the court, plus you have to jump the fence to get on the court which would probably lead to some security guard tackling you down before you even make it. And after the whole "reflection sessions" debacle when I was a freshman, I don't know if I want to storm the court if we win and sit and hear about "how dangerous our actions were"

[nasdadjr]

The biggest difference between xavier through January and xavier in February is that they definitely look more confident on the floor. I have been pretty critical of them this year but I think it is imperitive that they keep the confidence they have built up the last month and not let the end of that st johns game bring them down. This team can win saturday if the keep that confidence and show the same defensive tenacity they have shown the last 2 games.

On a side note who takes the last shot in a one possession game if it comes to that cause what we saw monday night looked like there was no real plan in place for it

[xufan2434]

The biggest difference between xavier through January and xavier in February is that they definitely look more confident on the floor. I have been pretty critical of them this year but I think it is imperitive that they keep the confidence they have built up the last month and not let the end of that st johns game bring them down. This team can win saturday if the keep that confidence and show the same defensive tenacity they have shown the last 2 games.

On a side note who takes the last shot in a one possession game if it comes to that cause what we saw monday night looked like there was no real plan in place for it

Been wondering that since the Auburn game.. I think Remy has shown he isn't afraid of the moment, but also maybe he's not the best option for it. I think it has to be Myles. He's the only one I can see that would fit the mold. Obviously Dee had the big shot against UC but he was really really hot that game.

[MADXSTER]

I am probably in the minority but I would go with Macura. He doesn't have a conscience about shooting whether it is at the beginning of the game or at the end.

[GoMuskies]

This answers the question for me.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdPdUzKb2oI

[xu82]

Been wondering that since the Auburn game.. I think Remy has shown he isn't afraid of the moment, but also maybe he's not the best option for it. I think it has to be Myles. He's the only one I can see that would fit the mold. Obviously Dee had the big shot against UC but he was really really hot that game.

Remy was not afraid at Auburn. He also seemed so determined to take the shot that he stopped looking at the open people on the floor. Myles would be my first choice, but the open guy comes in high on the list as we have some decent shooters on the floor in those situations.

[paulxu]

That looks a lot like "Crawford's gotta hurry."

[xu82]

This answers the question for me.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdPdUzKb2oI

WOW! That was a thing of beauty... he's still on my list!

[chico]

This answers the question for me.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdPdUzKb2oI

That shot makes Jimmy Chitwood look like Jimmy Binnie.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I would go with Myles or Trevon.

I think Trevon should have taken that free throw jumper in the St. Johns game. He passed it up though. Might need some encouragement to seize the moment.

[bjf123]

I am assuming you then think anytime any team storms on any other team it is embarrassing, is that correct?

Not at all. Let's say Fordham were to somehow play and beat Kentucky. Storming the court would be absolutely justified. Our beating Nova is not nearly a big enough upset to warrant it. Doing so would make it seem like we thought we had zero chance of winning.


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[D-West & PO-Z]

Not at all. Let's say Fordham were to somehow play and beat Kentucky. Storming the court would be absolutely justified. Our beating Nova is not nearly a big enough upset to warrant it. Doing so would make it seem like we thought we had zero chance of winning.


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I get what you are saying but I disagree. I think us beating Nova is going to be (yes we are gonna win) a pretty big upset. I dont think Xavier is too good to storm courts. Either way it doesnt seem like it matters because the security it doesnt seem will let it happen.

[novachap]

I get what you are saying but I disagree. I think us beating Nova is going to be (yes we are gonna win) a pretty big upset. I dont think Xavier is too good to storm courts. Either way it doesnt seem like it matters because the security it doesnt seem will let it happen.

Clearly biased here, so take with a grain of salt.

As I said before, I think you guys are very dangerous at your place. Your home record is probably second best in the league and you can light it up. Senior day is formidable anywhere (see us vs Providence) and will be especially at Cintas. I circled this one at the beginning of the year as a L. At this point though I agree and do think it would be a pretty big upset / game for you (We are 18 - 4 lifetime and 3-0 recently with X) and beating Nova would assure you getting in, no question (although I think you are already in). However, if we play D the way we have this recent run of games, we are very tough as you know. Everyone stresses our 3 point shooting, but it is the defense that starts everything. I think it will go down to the buzzer. Hoping Hilliard or Archie have that last look. I will say this... if you win, I will be the first outsider back on congratulating you.

I really like the edge of these games and the budding rivalries. You guys have an awesome, intense fan base. Enjoy the ride. Good luck (except of course on Saturday!)

[XUMIOH12]

I would go with Myles or Trevon.

I think Trevon should have taken that free throw jumper in the St. Johns game. He passed it up though. Might need some encouragement to seize the moment.

I agree with you big time. Myles is our best deep shooter and Trevon can just score, those are the only two guys I would have much confidence in creating a last second shot....But since we have no true "go to guy" its really up to running a good play and hoping someone gets an open look.

[markchal]

Clearly biased here, so take with a grain of salt.

However, if we play D the way we have this recent run of games, we are very tough as you know. Everyone stresses our 3 point shooting, but it is the defense that starts everything. I think it will go down to the buzzer.


I would really love to believe this, but I just don't see us coming within 10 of Nova. They are just firing on all cylinders right now.

[Xville]

if we beat Nova, it will be the biggest win in Cintas History..its time to make history starting at 2pm tomorrow.

[GoMuskies]

It would be an upset, but not a huge one. My guess is that Xavier will be 5 point dogs or less tomorrow.

Actually, now that I've looked at Sagarin I expect about a 2 point spread.

[Milhouse]

When Dee was a freshmen their senior day (Tu, Frease) was vs. UNC Charloette.

His senior day is vs. #6 Villanova.

Once again the changes in Xavier Basketball over the last several years have amazed me.

[coasterville95]

Shannon just tweeted that Villanova returned some of its allotment unsold. 100 more tickets just went up for sale.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Lowest ticket on Stubhub is now $15.12.

[XMuskieFTW]

making the trip from Michigan tomorrow to take my brother to his first X game. Glad tickets were so low. Worked out perfectly for me.

[Musketeer_15]

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/27/report-villanovas-jayvaughn-pinkston-accused-of-violating-probation/

Interesting news about one of Nova's best players Pinkston. I'm not here to make comments about his private matters but hopefully this helps slow him down tomorrow.

[DC Muskie]

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/27/report-villanovas-jayvaughn-pinkston-accused-of-violating-probation/

Interesting news about one of Nova's best players Pinkston. I'm not here to make comments about his private matters but hopefully this helps slow him down tomorrow.

How is he supposed to come up with more than $11k? Holy Cow.

[X-band '01]

That's also for an offense that is 4 years old.

I can't possibly see how this is supposed to slow him down today.

[Masterofreality]

When Dee was a freshmen their senior day (Tu, Frease) was vs. UNC Charloette.

His senior day is vs. #6 Villanova.

Once again the changes in Xavier Basketball over the last several years have amazed me.

And that game against UNCC was on FSOhio and was able to be seen in about 5% of the US.

This game is on Fox Network National, available in 100% of the US and worldwide on Fox Sports Go.

Yeah, this is a long way from my first row bleacher sideline seat in the Schmidt House.

[LadyMuskie]

Today we win!

[Masterofreality]

Clearly biased here, so take with a grain of salt.

As I said before, I think you guys are very dangerous at your place. Your home record is probably second best in the league and you can light it up. Senior day is formidable anywhere (see us vs Providence) and will be especially at Cintas. I circled this one at the beginning of the year as a L. At this point though I agree and do think it would be a pretty big upset / game for you (We are 18 - 4 lifetime and 3-0 recently with X) and beating Nova would assure you getting in, no question (although I think you are already in). However, if we play D the way we have this recent run of games, we are very tough as you know. Everyone stresses our 3 point shooting, but it is the defense that starts everything. I think it will go down to the buzzer. Hoping Hilliard or Archie have that last look. I will say this... if you win, I will be the first outsider back on congratulating you.

I really like the edge of these games and the budding rivalries. You guys have an awesome, intense fan base. Enjoy the ride. Good luck (except of course on Saturday!)

Thanks Nova. I was at the game at your place. No issues at all with your fans. Good people.

I love this league and am stoked to cheer for every Big East team when they are playing against the rest of the world. Of course I want to badly win today, but I also live in the world of reality and know that we will not be in the Final 4 this year. You guys, on the other hand, have legit National Championship chances (if Kentucky stumbles). Despite the ESPN dissing, you guys deserve a #1 seed even if we win today.

Good luck (other than today) and I'd like nothing better to see you again in the BE Tourney Final.

[Nocalmuskie]

Is this one sold out?

[Masterofreality]

Is this one sold out?

Nova returned 100 tickets. I would guess that it will go SRO.

[crolfes12]

On Ticketmaster....About 30-40 left in the upper deck. Most are in the corner section, I assume those are Nova's tickets. Also, still about 10-20 student tickets left.

[bobbiemcgee]

My Thoughts for the day:

1. Similar to last year's reaction - WOW - our little 4k college is playing 'Nova at home in the Big East Conference on National TV.
2. WOW - this program has come a long way in a short time period.
3. WOW - we can recruit with the big time powers in the D1 power elite.
4. Wow - we lost the last 3 games to 'Nova.
5. WOW - it's time to get fired up today and kick their ass - Next Level, please.

GO MUSKIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Titanxman04]

My Thoughts for the day:

1. Similar to last year's reaction - WOW - our little 4k college is playing 'Nova at home in the Big East Conference on National TV.
2. WOW - this program has come a long way in a short time period.
3. WOW - we can recruit with the big time powers in the D1 power elite.
4. Wow - we lost the last 3 games to 'Nova.
5. WOW - it's time to get fired up today and kick their ass - Next Level, please.

GO MUSKIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Very well said. We often narrow the scope to the "here and now" and don't focus on the whole journey. What a wonderful perspective it is to realize that in only a few shorts years, we're playing with some major programs and in a conference that is ranked 2nd in the conference RPI. Fantastic.

[American X]

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQds3DvzUUeWOH5x3PI-NW13E4o_xYLUi4Pfk1F-ypeXpokWWQT


MID TO LATE AFTERNOON, WE GRILL WILDCAT! IT'S DELICIOUS (and lean)!

[paulxu]

You guys are in luck. I'm prevented from watching this game (it's killing me by the way).
But, the little lady has got my back and will be watching.
That combination, me not seeing/her watching, should be a guaranteed W on Senior Day.

Get some Muskies!

[D-West & PO-Z]

What time do they honor the seniors? How long before the game?

[Smooth]

What time do they honor the seniors? How long before the game?

34 seconds left in the game. Xavier pulls Davis and Stainbrook with a 10 point lead.

[bobbiemcgee]

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQds3DvzUUeWOH5x3PI-NW13E4o_xYLUi4Pfk1F-ypeXpokWWQT


MID TO LATE AFTERNOON, WE GRILL WILDCAT! IT'S DELICIOUS (and lean)!

We fed them a special "Muskie Cheese Steak" for the pre-game meal.:lol:

[XUMIOH12]

What time do they honor the seniors? How long before the game?

1:40 is what Shannon said on twitter

[Musketeer_15]

34 seconds left in the game. Xavier pulls Davis and Stainbrook with a 10 point lead.

I see what you did there, let's hope you are right!

[blueblob06]

http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o712/XavierBasketball-com/StainbrookDavisSeniors_zpsrkeuvuyr.jpg

Let's go Matt & Dee! LET'S GO MUSKIES!!!

[Masterofreality]

34 seconds left in the game. Xavier pulls Davis and Stainbrook with a 10 point lead.

YEAH, BABY!! Public and Private Reps!!!!

[GoMuskies]

Actually, now that I've looked at Sagarin I expect about a 2 point spread.

Just bet, and the line is...2. Oh well, think I could have gotten 3.5 last night. ML is a measly +120.

[IM4X]

Thanks Nova. I was at the game at your place. No issues at all with your fans. Good people.

I love this league and am stoked to cheer for every Big East team when they are playing against the rest of the world. Of course I want to badly win today, but I also live in the world of reality and know that we will not be in the Final 4 this year. You guys, on the other hand, have legit National Championship chances (if Kentucky stumbles). Despite the ESPN dissing, you guys deserve a #1 seed even if we win today.

Good luck (other than today) and I'd like nothing better to see you again in the BE Tourney Final.


I am right there with you with everything you've said MOR... except the part where you say, "and know that we will not be in the final 4 this year," I too live in the world of reality and yet I know, even with the inconsistent play we've seen this year, X has a shot (however unlikely it may be) to get to the 4 four, as long as we get invited to the dance. That's the beautiful thing about The NCAA tournament and why it's my favorite sporting event to watch.

If X gets in the tournament, anything could happen:

• X could find they play a string of teams that they just match up well against
• Myles, Trevon, Remy, JP and even Dee could get very hot with their shooting and the team could click w/ great chemistry
• A higher seed could have an off game.
• Key players on the other team could get into foul trouble (this is something we need to take advantage of)
• A star player for the other team could get hurt in a conference tournament and be out for your game.
• X could draw fouls left and right and make so many of their free throws that their opponent can't catch up

If we get in and Stain and Dee and the rest of the team defend and shoot and rebound as well as they are capable, I absolutely feel this team has a a chance to go deep and even get to the Final 4. I am not ready to give up on this team and say that we need to wait until next year.

One final thought. I remember the season when we beat Georgetown (with their twin towers) to make it to the sweet sixteen. That following game we played a very good Texas team and were up by 12 points at halftime. Then our bigs got into foul trouble early in the second half (Strong even fouled out), we had a short bench and the game changed dramatically. Had our bigs not gotten into foul trouble I believe we not only would have won that game but the next game as well. Those guys really could have made it to the final 4 if not for foul trouble and a short bench.

That was the first year where X proved that they were not just this little Midwest team who was dangerous to play, but a team that got the fan base and the nation all believing X can play with anyone and win. That game made me a believer that the sky is the limit for players wearing the X uniform as long as the team possessed enough talent and the players wanted it badly enough.

I realize in order for X to get to the Final 4 or even the elite 8, they will need to play their best basketball. And I honestly believe it's possible. I also think MOR that you believe there is a chance. Fess up.

Dig deep boys. Finish this season playing the best ball of your lives.

[xudash]

34 seconds left in the game. Xavier pulls Davis and Stainbrook with a 10 point lead.

Well done.

[Xavier]

IM4X- Again, you keep saying things like "If Xavier plays great defense, rebounds well, limits turnovers and plays well on offense they can go far in the tournament".

I mean, you are right. But I can say that about every team in the field.

[Masterofreality]

. I also think MOR that you believe there is a chance. Fess up.
.

Yep, I always believe IM. Believing doesn't necessarily translate into realistically doing, but I'm a glass half full guy.

[Masterofreality]

GUS Johnson on the call today!

[Always Learning]

Can we win? Of course.
Baaack in the day, next to last game of the year, at 'Nova (old gym) vs Harold Porter (Jack Kraft's best team ever, and the 'Cats were a Finalist that year, we had the tied with a minute to go.
Our ball, Nova TO, and I begged George Krajack to take the last shot.
Wanted Tommy Schlager to take it (he was a true confident shooter from the corner) but GK played "coach" and drew up a "sure fire" quick shot.
It missed, they scored a couple of times and that was that.
Coulda woulda shoulda
FWITW, we made a real run at Kraft who was not a fan fav and being sniped at by George Raveling (until they went to the Final Four) and had a shot, but he couldn't swing his family among other drawbacks.
Was a class guy and a solid coach, something 'Nova has always had dating back to the the days of Al Severence.
Severence once after a columnist quested his smartness, held a post-game presser and answered every question in fluid Latin.
Great school, great people, almost at Xavier's level. Almost!

[Masterofreality]

Can we win? Of course.
Baaack in the day, next to last game of the year, at 'Nova (old gym) vs Harold Porter (Jack Kraft's best team ever, and the 'Cats were a Finalist that year, we had the tied with a minute to go.
Our ball, Nova TO, and I begged George Krajack to take the last shot.
Wanted Tommy Schlager to take it (he was a true confident shooter from the corner) but GK played "coach" and drew up a "sure fire" quick shot.
It missed, they scored a couple of times and that was that.
Coulda woulda shoulda
FWITW, we made a real run at Kraft who was not a fan fav and being sniped at by George Raveling (until they went to the Final Four) and had a shot, but he couldn't swing his family among other drawbacks.
Was a class guy and a solid coach, something 'Nova has always had dating back to the the days of Al Severence.
Severence once after a columnist quested his smartness, held a post-game presser and answered every question in fluid Latin.
Great school, great people, almost at Xavier's level. Almost!

And hence why Krajack's tenure was short. What a dunderhead.

[XU Cowbell Kid]

I am right there with you with everything you've said MOR... except the part where you say, "and know that we will not be in the final 4 this year," I too live in the world of reality and yet I know, even with the inconsistent play we've seen this year, X has a shot (however unlikely it may be) to get to the 4 four, as long as we get invited to the dance. That's the beautiful thing about The NCAA tournament and why it's my favorite sporting event to watch.

Agree that it is possible... but to get there, we have to win - at a minimum - 4 games in a row. Which only happened once this year when we were playing the easiest part of our schedule at the beginning of the year. Since then, we have managed one 3 game win streak (actually... this may have been the easiest part of our schedule) right before Christmas.

My point is that yes, it is possible. But at this point, Xavier hasn't shown that they are capable of stringing together wins against good teams. And once you are in the tournament, everyone is a good team. I hope they get there as much as anyone, but at this point, I would be ecstatic if they make it to the second weekend.

[IM4X]

IM4X- Again, you keep saying things like "If Xavier plays great defense, rebounds well, limits turnovers and plays well on offense they can go far in the tournament".

I mean, you are right. But I can say that about every team in the field.

XAVIER-

Yes I have made a statement like that twice. And again, you are also right when it comes to many of the tournament teams but not all.

My point here, which you are validating, is that we have a legitimate chance to go deep and our team has some advantages that some other teams do not:

• This X team actually has enough of talented players and a deep enough bench for a run- some tournament teams don't
• X has been able to demonstrate that they can be dangerous from the 3 – some tournament teams haven't
• X is usually espected to advance
• X has (more recently) shown they can play lock down defense -some teams just play well on offense.
• X they have been battle tested all season against talented teams in the BE- some teams have only played against smaller less talented teams

I could go on. This is why we are not just like every other team.

I ask you... XAVIER... Do you not believe X has a chance to go deep? Even a chance....I do.

[XU Cowbell Kid]

Did we just turn the ball over there on the inbounds?

[GoMuskies]

That to will be charged to Trevon, but it's on Dee. Big mental error there.

[bjf123]

Yep.


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[mistabeecee41]

Can't do that against nova dee. was her serious there?

[BandAid]

Did we just turn the ball over there on the inbounds?

I'm pretty sure we did

[Xavgrad08]

Villanova is so tough to beat when they are knocking down the 3. Trevon has played well so far.

[GoMuskies]

Not sure Stain can play in this game.

[BandAid]

Not sure Stain can play in this game.

He hasn't played in many games lately it seems

[sirthought]

Is it me, or are the Xavier cheerleaders a lot better looking than in past years?

Impressive.

[xavierj]

Man Softbrook could use a good case of toughness right about now.

[IM4X]

Not sure Stain can play in this game.

Yeah he might be a bit too slow for the pace.

And please no high lofty passes to Stain. This team is too quick and talented,

[GoMuskies]

Jimmy!!!!!!

[GoMuskies]

20 minutes to March!

[sirthought]

Sweeeeet!

[Backyard Champ]

in order to win this game we have to box out, and limit the TO's. Seems like they have gotten a couple of threes off second chance opportunities. I don't imagine we shoot that well In second half. Great start though, crowd must be rocking.

1 more half and we are playing for seeding.

[Xavier_Musketeers]

Great half! Got to keep it up and keep making threes!

[Bearcat_Bounce]

Xavier will have a good shooting game. Villanova will not be able to match it. Xavier will be victorious on Senior day. It will be necessary for the Musketeers to win if they want to get out of the dreaded 8/9 game. Xavier will accomplish this goal. All for now.
So far so good.

[bjf123]

Apparently, half of the cheerleaders are seniors. The Blue Blob is also a senior.


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[GoMuskies]

That drive by Dee was harmful.

[xavierj]

Did Stainbrook age like 20 years over the last 3 months?

[sirthought]

Reynolds up and under!

[mistabeecee41]

Would a been nice to take that war and bump it to 10+.

[Xavgrad08]

We have to find a way to eliminate Villanova's offensive rebounding. Can't give a good team multiple opportunities. The refs missed the over and back call.

[Backyard Champ]

Officiating has been pretty poor to start this second half..

[GoMuskies]

Myles drive was absolutely disastrous. Terrible decision making by our guards in transition.

[Wheelhouse]

Myles drive was absolutely disastrous. Terrible decision making by our guards in transition.

Transition offense is pretty much the only thing stopping us from having a double digit lead.

[GoMuskies]

Trevon has been getting abused. Hanging tough, though.

[Xavgrad08]

Another big offensive rebound for Villanova. Thankfully he missed both free throws.

[Wheelhouse]

Have to make wide open shots against Villanova.

[xavierj]

Trevon has to make that shot.

[X Factor]

Bleuitt misses a wide open three!!

[mistabeecee41]

Game over.

[X Factor]

Nova hits clutch shots...Xavier falling apart like usual

[Blue Blooded-05]

Amazing how Nova gets and hits an open 3 after every timeout

[SM#24]

19 points in 15m this half.

[GoMuskies]

Their guards vs ours is a huge mismatch. Oh well. Nova is just really good.

[X Factor]

Close games this team sucks

[Wheelhouse]

That went south fast.

[SM#24]

dagger

[GoMuskies]

Best win in Omaha.

[mohr5150]

It's all about upperclassmen leadership. One team has it, the other doesn't.

[X Factor]

You just knew this team couldn't play well enough for 40 min. Myles Davis has been awful today.

[xavierj]

Xavier is what they are, an average team, with average players and an average coach. They will end up in an average tournament as well, which will be well deserved.

[X Factor]

There have been about 5 times today where X has been atrocious on a fast break and Nova scored on the other end.

[gladdenguy]

Same old team this year. Love the bubble just like NC St.
Beat Creighton or Nit.

[BandAid]

I wonder if Nova fans get as tired about commentators talking about how Jay Wright dresses.

I do, and I watch maybe a handful of Nova games a year.

It's like the Uber thing, only it's the coach - so it never goes away.

[DC Muskie]

I'm not sure how to adjust to calls when the other team is falling over themselves. What a terribly officiated second half. And we can hit anything.

[brownlavender]

Officiating was very very bad in a few specific plays today and that is the difference in the game. Multiple plays we get phantom calls where we had the ball and running with it where instead they get a foul and a instant 3 . The marcura 3 foul was absolute bs as well. He touched his thigh running by, big deal. A few bad calls can be a 15 point swing and it has this game

[X Factor]

Nova has multiple guys that step up and play well

[Xavgrad08]

Villanova did a nice job exploiting some of our guys defensively. Must win game coming up at Creighton.

[X Factor]

Damn has Myles ever hit a shot when we needed it?

[Wheelhouse]

We've probably gotten the raw end of some calls today but anyone who thinks we lost this game because of the refs is fooling themselves.

[GoMuskies]

Myles Davis has been awful today.

Truth. And the other Davis has only been marginally better.

[X Factor]

This has turned into a clown show for X

[GoMuskies]

Damn has Myles ever hit a shot when we needed it?

Yes. Just not his day.

[Wheelhouse]

Welp, we better win at Creighton or we're probably back in the play-in game at best.

[DC Muskie]

Nova has multiple guys that step up and play well

They are just a really good team. This second half has had everything go wrong.

[SM#24]

Now it's just players taking turns to see who can look stupider

[DC Muskie]

That was just a terrible call on the Myles shot. And it was done by the guy clear across the court.

Ugh.

[X Factor]

Jimmy Jackson nailed it...the difference is in the mental make up of these two teams

[GoMuskies]

We knew this would be tough. Would have been nice, but Creighton has always been the must win.

[DC Muskie]

Jimmy Jackson nailed it...the difference is in the mental make up of these two teams

One is good and experienced. The other is okay and inexperienced.

I just like Nova as a program overall.

[X Factor]

Nova has outscored X by 17 in the second half.

[Caveat]

It's all about upperclassmen leadership. One team has it, the other doesn't.

It's all about talent and athleticism. Nova is simply better than X. More athletic, better shooting. The math isn't hard.

[Masterofreality]

We knew this would be tough. Would have been nice, but Creighton has always been the must win.

We'd better not lose that game....period.


One is good and experienced. The other is okay and inexperienced.

I just like Nova as a program overall.

Agree.

[BandAid]

Nothing like a team giving up - good work guys

[mohr5150]

Again, their upperclassmen stepped up while ours went and pissed themselves in the corner. Ennis and Archidiacano had stellar games. Dee threw it to the Villanova bench on multiple occasions and took at least two shots with his back to the basket.

[X Factor]

One is good and experienced. The other is okay and inexperienced.

I just like Nova as a program overall.

But they are not unbeatable. The way X played in the second half was pathetic.

[Caveat]

Packline defense + deep shooting quality is going to be a recipe for disaster every time.

[DC Muskie]

But they are not unbeatable. The way X played in the second half was pathetic.

Of course not, they have lost. We lost our edge, had some calls go against us, they hit shots, we didn't.

Game over.

[Xville]

Really tired of being an average team..really sick of talking about the bubble....a change is needed....somewhere

[X Factor]

I'm getting tired of 12-14 loss seasons

[Wheelhouse]

I thought the team played very tough for 35 minutes. It unraveled at the end but it was likely over by that point. Villanova is simply a better team. I think we lost for two reasons - our defensive rebounding and our transition offense. Can't even remember how many times we made 1 on 3 drives in transition. Just plain old undisciplined play from our guards. Oh, and Dee was awful today.

[Caveat]

I thought the team played very tough for 35 minutes. It unraveled at the end but it was likely over by that point. Villanova is simply a better team. I think we lost for two reasons - our defensive rebounding and our transition offense. Can't even remember how many times we made 1 on 3 drives in transition. Just plain old undisciplined play from our guards. Oh, and Dee was awful today.

Losing track of 3 point shooters is a chronic problem for Chris Mack coached teams. Nova had some genuinely shocking wide open looks for 3 and knocked them all down in the second half.

[Wheelhouse]

We knew this would be tough. Would have been nice, but Creighton has always been the must win.

This is true.

[mohr5150]

19- point scoring differential in the second half. Again, look who stepped up and who didn't in the second half. Nova had seniors and juniors who made sure they didn't lose. Ours made sure we did. Abell, Dee, and Stain stayed in the locker room after the half. And Miles played a horrible game on both ends of the court.

[X Factor]

You think this team can go on the road and win a must win game? Their buttholes will be so tight. I can easily see Creighton winning.

[X-Fan]

Tip your hat to Nova. Absolute killer instinct down the stretch. That's what great teams do. X played well but did not value the ball enough or hit shots when they had to.

Well, here we are. I think X has to win at Creighton and at least once in NYC to not be sweating two weeks from tomorrow.

Man, what a bummer. I love that X is in the Big East and has so many chances for resume wins...just looking forward to when they take advantage of more often.

[Wheelhouse]

Losing track of 3 point shooters is a chronic problem for Chris Mack coached teams. Nova had some genuinely shocking wide open looks for 3 and knocked them all down in the second half.

I don't disagree, but I think transition O in this game is why we lost. Our defense was what it has been all season, average at best.

[BandAid]

Hat's off to Nova, they're a good team. I hope their shooting lasts through March for once. We made 7 three pointers in the first half. 1 in the second. Much like the UC game, except UC can't score.

The team's body language was awful down the stretch. And Cintas was sounded like a tomb on tv. Pretty embarrassing. My apologies to any VaTech and UVA fans waiting for that shitstorm to end so they could watch their game.

[xsteve1]

So disappointing. X is no longer a tough program.

[Caveat]

I've loved watchig Matt Stainbrook play and loved the personality he has brought to Xavier, but there is only so much a below-the-rim center can do to "step up" in a big game. His physical limitations are on full display in games like this.

[DC Muskie]

My apologies to any VaTech and UVA fans waiting for that shitstorm to end so they could watch their game.

All four of them can get over it.

[X Factor]

The lack of athleticism on this team is depressing. Watching Dee and Myles try to drive to the basket and throw up junk is hard to watch.

[xsteve1]

No matter what the numbers say X is not a tourney team. Just too inconsistent.

[Masterofreality]

Losing track of 3 point shooters is a chronic problem for Chris Mack coached teams. Nova had some genuinely shocking wide open looks for 3 and knocked them all down in the second half.

This. Nova had wide ass open looks. I'm sick of seeing it, yet the same stuff continues to happen. There was absolutely NO change up of defense at all today.

Even in our biggest win lately- SucKS, Cobb had a wide ass open look at the end, but luckily missed it.

[X Factor]

At least Jalen played well today.

[Masterofreality]

Nova got 20 points off our turnovers and we got 11..

That doesn't count the points on a break that Nova got after we took horrific shots - like from Dee, Myles and Abell.

[Caveat]

The lack of athleticism on this team is depressing. Watching Dee and Myles try to drive to the basket and throw up junk is hard to watch.

Too many below-the rim players. When you put Dee, Myles, and Matt on the floor at the same time it just limits so much of what you can do and makes the team very easy to defend inside the 3 point line.

[DC Muskie]

No matter what the numbers say X is not a tourney team. Just too inconsistent.

Well somebody's got to get in. College basketball overall is pretty terrible. Look at Nova, the best team in the BE and they don't have one NBA prospect.

[X Factor]

Stain just doesn't do much out there anymore. Oh yay, he can pass. That's about it.

[BandAid]

Stain just doesn't do much out there anymore. Oh yay, he can pass. That's about it.

I think he pu\t some pounds back on after last year. He certainly seems slower. At least he matches up well with Josh Smith.

[gladdenguy]

this team has been inconsistent all year. This team has been soft all year. The coach of this team is just not gonna get it done.
Reds season can't come soon enough.

[xsteve1]

No matter what the numbers say X is not a tourney team. Just too inconsistent.

[Wheelhouse]

As frustrating as this team is if we win at Creighton we should be fine. Plus, if the BE tourney bracket as of today comes to fruition it actually sets up pretty darn well for X. GT in round 1 and Butler in the semi's. Obviously let's just win at Creighton and then worry about it, but all is not lost.

[Wheelhouse]

I also think everyone saying we aren't a tournament team hasn't looked at the rest of the bubble. It's not good. At all. I agree that if we lose at Creighton we could be in trouble but if we win that game we should be fine.

[spursy]

Were the refs as bad on TV as they appeared in person?

[X Factor]

this team has been inconsistent all year. This team has been soft all year. The coach of this team is just not gonna get it done.
Reds season can't come soon enough.


It's not Mack. He has consistently put this team in position to win, but he has NO ONE who steps ups in close games and makes winning plays. His offense puts guys in position and they get get looks, but again, today in the second half, they couldn't make them even when wide open.

Next year, with a more experienced group, this team should be better. If not, then I might start looking at Mack.

[danaandvictory]

As far as I'm concerned, Chris has one year. And I'd have Dan Hurley on speed dial now.

[spursy]

Reds season can't come soon enough.

If you're hoping the reds season will be better than xavier's then I have some bad news for you.

[drudy23]

Were the refs as bad on TV as they appeared in person?

Refs were fine...I hate that crap.

They stepped up...we didn't.

Complaining about the refs is bush league crap...win games.

[X-Fan]

It's not Mack. He has consistently put this team in position to win, but he has NO ONE who steps ups in close games and makes winning plays. His offense puts guys in position and they get get looks, but again, today in the second half, they couldn't make them even when wide open.

Next year, with a more experienced group, this team should be better. If not, then I might start looking at Mack.
I have the exact same feelings.

[Masterofreality]

Refs were fine...I hate that crap.

They stepped up and made wide open 3's....we didn't.

Complaining about the refs is bush league crap...win games.

Fixed that for you.

[spursy]

Refs were fine...I hate that crap.

They stepped up...we didn't.

Complaining about the refs is bush league crap...win games.
That's why I was asking. Easy there.

[Strange Brew]

As far as I'm concerned, Chris has one year. And I'd have Dan Hurley on speed dial now.

Chris has one game in Nebraska as far as I'm concerned.

[danaandvictory]

Xavier under Chris Mack has one defensive philosophy: concede a wide open three on every possession, and hope they miss. And that probably is why X is working on sixty losses in the last five years.

[markchal]

Really disappointing games from our seniors in the last few BE games. I'm convinced Stainbrook has been more injured than they let on for the last month. It's inexplicable how quickly he's disappeared. That being said, Myles Davis has been dreadful the last few games as well. 4-24 In the last two games I think.

We just aren't very consistent, or very good.

[danaandvictory]

Chris has one game in Nebraska as far as I'm concerned.

In an ideal world, I agree. In reality, he's not getting fired.

[Masterofreality]

It's not Mack. He has consistently put this team in position to win, but he has NO ONE who steps ups in close games and makes winning plays. His offense puts guys in position and they get get looks, but again, today in the second half, they couldn't make them even when wide open.

Next year, with a more experienced group, this team should be better. If not, then I might start looking at Mack.


I have the exact same feelings.

I agree, mostly.

Except that this coaching staff needs to sharpen up and use this year's experience to get better.

-Recruiting? Pretty good considering the league change.
-Pre game prep.? Pretty good.
-Game setup? Pretty good
- Halftime Adjustments? OK
-In game "action" adjustments? Not so good. As long as things are going swimmingly along- like against GTown on the road and Butler at home, there's no problem, but when things start to go south, there is no good response.
-Willingness to adjust the "system" to personnel? Not so good.

Good coaches and staffs do things in-game that make a difference in close games. They recognize developing problems and either change up a defense or sub in and out quick depending on matchups. This year, this staff has been lacking in that.

[DC Muskie]

I don't think the refs were fine in the second half. I thought they were pretty bad. And I'm not one to place blame on the refs for a loss, but I'm also not naive to notice a terrible over and back call turned into points for Nova.

What really surprises me in this game is how our smaller, slower guards drive into the lane and put themselves in horrible spots, which leads to making horrible decisions. It also surprises me how we can have the biggest front court and yet not take advantage of that. That's two aspects of the offense we play right into Nova's hands. And their hands are very good.

If you play well you can overcome bad calls. They happen every game. The second half made it look like Nova was incredible, when everything that could go wrong, did go wrong for us. I have never seen a tale of two halves like I did today. And that's saying something, especially with this year's Xavier team.

[RoseyMuskie]

Really disappointing games from our seniors in the last few BE games. I'm convinced Stainbrook has been more injured than they let on for the last month. It's inexplicable how quickly he's disappeared. That being said, Myles Davis has been dreadful the last few games as well. 4-24 In the last two games I think.

We just aren't very consistent, or very good.

Had a friend come in for the game, and he probably hasn't watched a minute of X basketball this season. He said, "the big guy looks hurt." Whether that means his athleticism is that poor, or he is injured, I don't know.

[muskieindent]

No matter what the numbers say X is not a tourney team. Just too inconsistent.
tThere are probably 20 other teams you could say the same things about.Lots of mediocre teams will make the tournament.Let's hope we are one of them.I don't want to go back to the Cintas center until next November

[OTRMUSKIE]

I don't think the refs were fine in the second half. I thought they were pretty bad. And I'm not one to place blame on the refs for a loss, but I'm also not naive to notice a terrible over and back call turned into points for Nova.

What really surprises me in this game is how our smaller, slower guards drive into the lane and put themselves in horrible spots, which leads to making horrible decisions. It also surprises me how we can have the biggest front court and yet not take advantage of that. That's two aspects of the offense we play right into Nova's hands. And their hands are very good.

If you play well you can overcome bad calls. They happen every game. The second half made it look like Nova was incredible, when everything that could go wrong, did go wrong for us. I have never seen a tale of two halves like I did today. And that's saying something, especially with this year's Xavier team.

Love your stuff DC but you can't say I am not one to blame refs and then blame refs. This team is not well coached or the talent is overrated. Nova is good but X should win these games at home. Maybe I expect too much from them.

[xsteve1]

I don't think the refs were fine in the second half. I thought they were pretty bad. And I'm not one to place blame on the refs for a loss, but I'm also not naive to notice a terrible over and back call turned into points for Nova.

What really surprises me in this game is how our smaller, slower guards drive into the lane and put themselves in horrible spots, which leads to making horrible decisions. It also surprises me how we can have the biggest front court and yet not take advantage of that. That's two aspects of the offense we play right into Nova's hands. And their hands are very good.

If you play well you can overcome bad calls. They happen every game. The second half made it look like Nova was incredible, when everything that could go wrong, did go wrong for us. I have never seen a tale of two halves like I did today. And that's saying something, especially with this year's Xavier team.

The thing I worry about Mack is he hardly ever plays towards what his advantages are. If we played Dayton we would play a small lineup to try and match up. We have the biggest front court in the league and never use it towards our advantage.

[X Factor]

Myles Davis is 4-24 the past two games in 2 HUGE conference games. Ouch. He is a role player. Does anyone think he would play more than 10-15 mintues a game on a team like Nova, SJU, G'Town, Butler? I don't, but he's getting 30-35 minutes a night for Xavier.

[Xville]

We have a combination of problems...one our upper class men aren't good...dee and stain are ok, but they aren't difference makers and they are physically limited. Two the coaching isn't very good...we don't make adjustments in game very well, and the substitution patterns aren't good...why did Austin basically not play? Why did Farr have limited minutes? Why did we not feed Reynolds more? Why are our guards so incompetent when it comes to finishing near the rim?

[DC Muskie]

Love your stuff DC but you can't say I am not one to blame refs and then blame refs. This team is not well coached or the talent is overrated. Nova is good but X should win these games at home. Maybe I expect too much from them.

I don't blame the refs, and I think I stated that with the rest of the post. It's really silly to suggest though that the refs somehow don't have an impact on the game. Of course they do. They don't cause you to lose, but they can certainly help reduce the lead from nine to one in a matter of minutes with calls that are missed or go the other way and a good team like Nova takes advantage.

Like I said, when you play well you can overcome that. We did not play well, therefore we did not overcome the poor officiating for most of the second half.

We can critique the refs. We are not TV commentators who feel it is their duty to praise everything they do on the court. How a guy misses a call where the ball goes off the head of Nova player right in front of him is mind boggling. Did that cost of the game? No. Am I blaming them for the loss? No. What I am saying they were bad in the second and that didn't help as we continued to miss fire on offense, while Nova stepped up.

[xu82]

One or two plays can significantly affect the momentum and out come of a game. Sometimes those plays come as a result of bad calls. There were some really bad calls, but no one knows how that affected the game, and we never will. 'Nova is a very good team, and I don't hear anyone denying that.

[Nigel Tufnel]

I don't blame the refs, and I think I stated that with the rest of the post. It's really silly to suggest though that the refs somehow don't have an impact on the game. Of course they do. They don't cause you to lose, but they can certainly help reduce the lead from nine to one in a matter of minutes with calls that are missed or go the other way and a good team like Nova takes advantage.

Like I said, when you play well you can overcome that. We did not play well, therefore we did not overcome the poor officiating for most of the second half.

We can critique the refs. We are not TV commentators who feel it is their duty to praise everything they do on the court. How a guy misses a call where the ball goes off the head of Nova player right in front of him is mind boggling. Did that cost of the game? No. Am I blaming them for the loss? No. What I am saying they were bad in the second and that didn't help as we continued to miss fire on offense, while Nova stepped up.

I agree. I have never critiqued the refs on this site. I don't think the refs made a difference in who won the game....but that doesn't mean they weren't horrible in the second half. The stretch that lost the game for X was when Jenkins made two 3's in a row and another guard for Nova nailed a 3. On X's possessions during that time, Myles, Macura and Trevon all missed wide open 3 pointers. Game was over at that point. They made their shots and X didn't. Refs still sucked though.

[Strange Brew]

I don't blame the refs, and I think I stated that with the rest of the post. It's really silly to suggest though that the refs somehow don't have an impact on the game. Of course they do. They don't cause you to lose, but they can certainly help reduce the lead from nine to one in a matter of minutes with calls that are missed or go the other way and a good team like Nova takes advantage.

Like I said, when you play well you can overcome that. We did not play well, therefore we did not overcome the poor officiating for most of the second half.

We can critique the refs. We are not TV commentators who feel it is their duty to praise everything they do on the court. How a guy misses a call where the ball goes off the head of Nova player right in front of him is mind boggling. Did that cost of the game? No. Am I blaming them for the loss? No. What I am saying they were bad in the second and that didn't help as we continued to miss fire on offense, while Nova stepped up.

That one was bad as was the over and back call. But, like you said, it didn't cost us the game. The boys didn't hit shots, rebound well or close out on shooters. Oh, and Nova is really good.

[Cheesehead]

It was like a different ref crew in second half but points off turnovers, second chance points and their three point shooting were the difference. Here is the stat that raised my eyebrows: X was 1-9 from three while Nova was 7-13 from three In second half. Game over.

[waggy]

Except from 3 point line, overall X actually shot better from the field. But Nova got 9 more shots. That's a lot more. X turned the ball over 5 more times, and they got outrebounded. Nova took more foul shots, but don't know if those are extra possession or missed front end by X. But there is probably a couple possessions hidden in there.

[spursy]

I disagree about myles being a role player. He was last year but has been a very versatile guard this year. I thought Remy would be that guy but myles has been better at it. No slight to Remy either, I think he will be crucial next year.

[danaandvictory]

Except from 3 point line, overall X actually shot better from the field.

And herein lies the problem with Chris Mack. The three point line matters. It matters a lot. You need to defend the perimeter and/or shoot the three well. When you suck at both, you have a serious issue.

[IM4X]

It's not Mack. He has consistently put this team in position to win, but he has NO ONE who steps ups in close games and makes winning plays. His offense puts guys in position and they get get looks, but again, today in the second half, they couldn't make them even when wide open.

Next year, with a more experienced group, this team should be better. If not, then I might start looking at Mack.

I agree that no one is really stepping up, but that's not the whole picture.

Everyone including the coaches contributed to this loss against a very good Nova team.

It was partly due to guards not being able to step up and make important 3s in the second half (as you mentioned) or even get the ball to fall when they drove to the bucket. It was stupid decisions made by a number of X players in a game, like shooting quick, low percentage shots when no teammates where near the basket (at least a handful of times). Partly poor offensive rebounding. Partly bad passes being made against a quick team, including high lofty ones to a big white Senior center who can't jump. Partly stretches where X all of the sudden weren't covering guards not covering open

It's also partly Mack. He is responsible for the lineups he chose to play that couldn't cover their shooters well. Also, Mack and staff obviously have not taught these guys how to run a fast break.

It's even partly some bad calls that resulted in a big swing in momentum in the game.

[kyxu]

And herein lies the problem with Chris Mack. The three point line matters. It matters a lot. You need to defend the perimeter and/or shoot the three well. When you suck at both, you have a serious issue.

Mack's "pray for a miss" defensive philosophy worked like a charm in the A-10, where teams shot 30% from three on a good day. In the Big East, where open looks from distance are down, it's a big problem.

[xsteve1]

Mack in his post game was saying Nova was hitting circus shots from thirty feet. They shoot 50% from 3 In BE play and have torched X every time we've played them. They had pretty clean looks all day. Blaming this loss on Nova hitting circus shots is BS. Play better defense.

[Xville]

Mack in his post game was saying Nova was hitting circus shots from thirty feet. They shoot 50% from 3 In BE play and have torched X every time we've played them. They had pretty clean looks all day. Blaming this loss on Nova hitting circus shots is BS. Play better defense.

I hope to god that is coach speak because if not mack is an idiot. They had so many open three pointers in the second half it was embarassing. There is nothing circus about htting wide open three pointers...good teams do that. If he really believes that, there's the door and go ahead and walk thru it.

[xsteve1]

I hope to god that is coach speak because if not mack is an idiot. They had so many open three pointers in the second half it was embarassing. There is nothing circus about htting wide open three pointers...good teams do that. If he really believes that, there's the door and go ahead and walk thru it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGY4Fj5Xtd0

[danaandvictory]

I don't remember a single "circus shot" from three that Nova hit today. I know they got a favorable kick in the first half, but other than that they were uncontested, free, and easy.

[drudy23]

I heard the post-game and kind of tilted my head when he started talking about "circus shots". They hit some tough shots off of screens and quick cross-overs, but Arch is a big-time shooter. He's going to hit tough shots. They had a ton of open threes in the second half. I wouldn't characterize any of them as "Circus shots".

[XU 87]

I thought Nova hit a lot of tough threes. A few were open , but a lot were contested, and made.

X scored 24 points in the second half. Macura, Bluiett and Myles all missed wide open threes later in the game. That's why we lost.

[drudy23]

I don't remember any 30 footers either.

[xsteve1]

I thought Nova hit a lot of tough threes. A few were open , but a lot were contested, and made.

They were 3's they've hit every game against X. Easy looks for a team that shoot's 50% from 3 in the BE. X sucks at guarding the 3 we've seen it all year.

[drudy23]

We've seen it for 4 years.

[xu82]

They were 3's they've hit every game against X. Easy looks for a team that shoot's 50% from 3 in the BE. X sucks at guarding the 3 we've seen it all year.

That's one way to look at it. If they're shooting 50% in the BE, maybe we're not the team the stands out. Maybe 'Nova stands out. Yes, I want to win every game, and I think we could be out coached in some games, but 'Nova is damn good. (Now I pray they go on a run in the tourney and don't flame out in the first round.)

[sirthought]

Nova did hit multiple 3s from well beyond the line when our guys had a hand up. I think that's what Mack is referring to. The Nova shots were amazing.

I thought a lot of what X was trying to do on offense was being read by Nova really well. They were in position to stop or compete.

Our guys often were not in position to stop them.

[XU 87]

The thing that bothers me is that on senior night, at home, with a loud sold out crowd, with a 7 point halftime lead, X gets blown out in the second half. Yes, Nova hit shots in the second half and X didn't. But we shouldn't be having our ass handed to us like that, at home.

[danaandvictory]

Xavier's opponents attempt 39.2% of their FG attempts from beyond the arc. The highest percentage, therefore last in the BE (262 out of 350 in D-I).

Interestingly, X opponents don't actually shoot a great percentage from three, but they shoot so many that it benefits them.

You would think at some stage this would be addressed.

[drudy23]

They hit high level Division I 3's...some were tough shots, but high DI shooters make tough shots. None were circus, and none were close to 27 or 30 feet.

[X Factor]

I disagree about myles being a role player. He was last year but has been a very versatile guard this year. I thought Remy would be that guy but myles has been better at it. No slight to Remy either, I think he will be crucial next year.

He's not a role player on this team, but he would be on most BE teams. Lately he's been getting 30-35 minutes a game. He's shooting 40% from the field, 39% from three on the year. He's second on the team in FGA this year.

He would have been a role player (15-20 min) on a lot of Xavier teams in years passed.

I like Myles. I really do, just stating that when his offense is not working, he brings NOTHING else to the table because he is slow, and can't lock anyone down on defense. He doesn't rebound or dish out assists.

4-24 from the field in the past 2 conference games, when we needed big games from him.

[boozehound]

Villanova is a top 10 team for a reason. Too bad our guys couldn't hit any shots late in the game. We got some decent looks. I actually thought we did an OK job contesting perimeter shots for the most part. I'm not melting down over this one...

[markchal]

He's not a role player on this team, but he would be on most BE teams. Lately he's been getting 30-35 minutes a game. He's shooting 40% from the field, 39% from three on the year. He's second on the team in FGA this year.

He would have been a role player (15-20 min) on a lot of Xavier teams in years passed.

I like Myles. I really do, just stating that when his offense is not working, he brings NOTHING else to the table because he is slow, and can't lock anyone down on defense. He doesn't rebound or dish out assists.

4-24 from the field in the past 2 conference games, when we needed big games from him.

He's a sophomore. He'll be fine. Plenty of great Xavier guards haven't had the sophomore season Myles has had.

[Whine&Cheese]

Xavier Fans, FWIW, I can tell you, we were really nervous about this game and that didn't change until only a few minutes were left. We view it as a very good road win--one that could have gone the other way, easily.

Your team played very well today for most of the game, especially in the first half. For some reason, Villanova seems to come on strong in the beginning of the 4th quarter....thankfully. But when we were down by 7 at the half, and worse, 9 early in the second, I didn't see where it might come from this go-around, but it eventually did. Nonetheless, you all have a very solid team and I would be surprised if you didn't make the NCAA field.

I think 'Nova fans share a frustration with how the game plan is set up and carried out on the court. Things that seem obvious to us, somehow escape the coaching staff or they must know something we don't as regards player limitations. The many comments about the need to go inside more often (your Reynolds has been solid) sound all too familiar on our end.

Keep your heads high. This must have been a tough one for any X fan, but you have more games to play and they will be games where you can still control your destiny. Please do so!

You are a classy bunch of fans that have been a great addition to the new BE.

And finally, YES, the focus on the suits is a bit tiresome. I'm ready for the Huggins-look.

[LA Muskie]

Thanks for the classy post, Whine & Cheese. And best of luck going forward. I've actually been a big fan ever since the days of Rollie (I'm Italian-American after all...).

[Strange Brew]

I'm ready for the Huggins-look.

No, no, no, no.........God no. No, no.....

Appreciate the kind words. Nova is very good and I hope we get another shot at you guys in NYC (careful what you wish for I know).

[XUMIOH12]

Nova is just plain good. They have a lot of great shooters on their team and they outlasted Xavier today. Musketeers just couldn't keep up the pace on offense the last bit of the 2nd half.

[Whine&Cheese]

No, no, no, no.........God no. No, no.....

I figured you'd appreciate the Huggy reference!

[Novafan]

Liked when Reynolds taunted the nova bench and Jay went nuts. (He didn't score another point after that). and not sure what game Mack was watching, didn't see one 30 ft shot or a circus shot.

[Masterofreality]

It's comments like "Circus Shots" that are really making me think. Is CMack totally blind to WTF has been going on out there?
Here is the actual paragraph from today's Enquirer game story:

"This was 30 minutes after Xavier's 78-66 loss, and Mack was still a bit agitated. Someone asked him how his team might have kept Villanova from scoring 45 points in the second half.

"What do you want (us) to do?'' Mack said. "They're making shots from 30 feet, 27 feet. Some of the circus shots that go in for them. . .


Uh, sorry. I didn't see a single off balance or end of the shot clock heave in the bunch of 3's that Villanova made. All were good, solid spot up shots- many of them wide ass open.

Here are the facts - Xavier is ranked 210 in D1 NCAA in Field Goal Percentage Defense overall, 218 in 3 point percentage defense and 282 in Points allowed from 3 Land per game. Through 30 Games! This is not an anomaly, yet the same hard headed defensive system continues to be employed.

We have seen the same defensive issues over and over and over again- starting almost from game one. What was this staff thinking in preseason practice when they believed that this group of players could run this system? We didn't see a lick of zone defense until the second half of the Providence game when we were down 13. If is was just a learning curve for the freshmen, we'd be seeing some improvement, but I'm not seeing it. Not only that but there is a disturbing lack of awareness by seemingly everyone on what guys on the other team do well. Phil Greene of St. John's at Cintas is Exhibit A. The guy NEVER drives, but spots up for 3's and he torched us at home with no one near him. His 4 threes were arguably the difference in that game.

I don't know how much worse you want it to be before you decide that you F-ed up on your defensive philosophy with a particular group. Look, I know that Villanova is exceptional, and a potential Final 4 team, but the game after game torchings have worn thin and are sickening.

Circus Shots? Uh, no. The only Circus in town is the defensive system employed by Xavier. Just like clowns under the Big Top - A lot of running around with little accomplished.

[MarkGormley]

What stood out to me the most from yesterday was when Mack was on with Byron and Joe after the game and one of his first comments was something along the lines of "our battery was charged from the beginning but then we just kind of ran out of juice." I was floored by this. We are a D1 team in the Big East. How are we running out of juice at the end of a game. If we were Evansville or IUPUI and were playing 'Nova then perhaps I could see the little team that shouldn't be in the game just coming up a bit short. Being outscored by 19 in the second half is not because of running out of juice. In addition to his comments which came quickly after that regarding shooting crazy shots and that he "has been in basketball for 20 years and haven't seen anything like it." Maybe he hasn't been in a game such as the Creighton game with Kyle Korver on New Year's Eve... those were circus shots.

Saying these things is a wonderful defense mechanism and they keep him from realizing the true issues with his defensive scheme. Quite honestly, he is showing he lacks some of the most simple leadership qualities, such as self-reflection first and foremost.

And yes, his defensive scheme sucks but what about the fundamentals, or lack thereof, that his players show. How many times does a perimeter defender attempt to close out by jumping at the guy? Yesterday this happened over and over. Nova would just blow by us ending up with a slash to the rim and dish/finish, a short range jumper or a kick out to the perimeter (where the same thing would repeat itself). What happened to closing out with what I was taught in MIDDLE school... choppy feet? My lord. I never thought I would be typing this regarding the coaching staff of a Big East school but it is really pathetic. We shouldn't be having this conversation What the hell is happening here??? Mack tries to hold his players accountable... it is time someone holds him accountable. That is when we will see something change.

[American X]

That to will be charged to Trevon, but it's on Dee. Big mental error there.


That drive by Dee was harmful.


Truth. And the other Davis has only been marginally better.


Senior Day and Dee Davis is still making decisions that a freshman would not make. A high school freshman.

[Xville]

If mack truly believes what he said, I'm completely done with him. I was at the game in 114 so Villanova 's offense was right in front of me in the second half. There was nothing circus about any of their threes...most of them were open, a few with a xavier hand up late. Not sure what game he was watching, but he needs to go. I'm not sure what I'm more pissed at, the fact we played like dog poo in the last 8 or so minutes, or the fact our coach really believes the crap coming out of his mouth.

[xsteve1]

I think what it comes down to is a lack of toughness. Toughness is something that can be developed through coaching. The lack of toughness is why X loses close games and when the team needs that big defensive stop they rarely get it.
Toughness left the program with our previous coach.

[X-Fan]

If mack truly believes what he said, I'm completely done with him. I was at the game in 114 so Villanova 's offense was right in front of me in the second half. There was nothing circus about any of their threes...most of them were open, a few with a xavier hand up late. Not sure what game he was watching, but he needs to go. I'm not sure what I'm more pissed at, the fact we played like dog poo in the last 8 or so minutes, or the fact our coach really believes the crap coming out of his mouth.
Here's what Doc had in his column this morning:
""What do you want (us) to do?'' Mack said. "They're making shots from 30 feet, 27 feet. Some of the circus shots that go in for them. . .

"Play better defense,'' Mack finally decided."

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/columnists/paul-daugherty/2015/02/28/doc-xavier-villanova-shooting/24192995/

I don't think coach felt every three was Circus. There were a few that were from deep or highly contested. Coach knows they needed to play better D, and said just that.

It was a really tough loss. We're talking about a minute sequence where Nova went from up 3 to up 9 because of two consecutive 3's they made. Let's not act like Nova is some chump. It was back and fourth the entire game, and then Nova delivered a knockout blow that X couldn't answer. This isn't the devastating loss. If X doesn't get to the Tourney, it'll be because of losses to UTEP, Auburn, DePaul, Creighton, etc...

This is going to be one LONG week.

[Xville]

To me when facing one of the best if not the best shooting team in the country, it would make sense to extend the defense out and force villanova to beat you inside which is not a strength of theirs...but hey what do I know I'm not a division 1 coach who just suddenly thinks villanova is going to stop making outside shots when they are open.

[kyxu]

Here's what Doc had in his column this morning:
""What do you want (us) to do?'' Mack said. "They're making shots from 30 feet, 27 feet. Some of the circus shots that go in for them. . .

"Play better defense,'' Mack finally decided."

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/columnists/paul-daugherty/2015/02/28/doc-xavier-villanova-shooting/24192995/

I don't think coach felt every three was Circus. There were a few that were from deep or highly contested. Coach knows they needed to play better D, and said just that.

It was a really tough loss. We're talking about a minute sequence where Nova went from up 3 to up 9 because of two consecutive 3's they made. Let's not act like Nova is some chump. It was back and fourth the entire game, and then Nova delivered a knockout blow that X couldn't answer. This isn't the devastating loss. If X doesn't get to the Tourney, it'll be because of losses to UTEP, Auburn, DePaul, Creighton, etc...

This is going to be one LONG week.

I'm wondering if Mack knows what a "circus shot" is.

[paulxu]

I wasn't able to see the game, which I had hoped would help!
But looking at the box score, I see some interesting stats:

Stain, Farr and Reynolds were a perfect 10-10. I would guess that hasn't happened before. (and 5-6 from the line)
Would seem that Myles/Dee would have fed them more often (although exchanging 2's for 3's doesn't always work too well).
But they were effective and needed to keep getting more and more shots it would seem. At least until they missed one.
Macura at 2-3 from long range maybe should have taken more shots if possible.

Dee and Myles at 5-21 were not on at all, and with 14 assists should have taken less shots and kept working on what was working.

If they both drove into the trees and that caused some of the 14 TO's, I think I'm glad I didn't see it. It would have hurt too much.

[danaandvictory]

I'm wondering if Mack knows what a "circus shot" is.

The banked three from the bench against UTEP was a circus shot. A guy stepping into a 25-footer in rhythm? Not so much.

[LA Muskie]

I don't think coach felt every three was Circus. There were a few that were from deep or highly contested. Coach knows they needed to play better D, and said just that.

When you watch the video and hear the comment in context the "play better D" comment is more dismissive than declarative.

But in general I think one needs to take post-game comments with a grain of salt.

[DC Muskie]

I wish we landed Kris Jenkins.

[Xville]

I wish we landed Kris Jenkins.

While we are wishing for things, I wish we could fast forward two years. That is when I believe we will get back to where this team and this program should be. Next year should be a little better but we are still going to be missing a lot of upper class men leadership.. when Reynolds is a senior, tre and jp are juniors, that is when I think this team will be back. We really all need to realize including me that the recruiting misses 3-4 years ago, the loss of dez, and the early departure of SC has limited what this team should have become.

[bleedXblue]

Strange comments by Mack are concerning. He and his team were outplayed and outcoached. You have to get better and stop making excuses.

[bleedXblue]

While we are wishing for things, I wish we could fast forward two years. That is when I believe we will get back to where this team and this program should be. Next year should be a little better but we are still going to be missing a lot of upper class men leadership.. when Reynolds is a senior, tre and jp are juniors, that is when I think this team will be back. We really all need to realize including me that the recruiting misses 3-4 years ago, the loss of dez, and the early departure of SC has limited what this team should have become.

While I do agree with some of this. Almost every D1 team goes through player losses for one reason or another. You cant keep using it an excuse.