XAVIER vs UC

[MADXSTER]

1633 VS 1634

Xavier University Musketeers (16-10) (7-7) RPI 41 SOS 22

W Northern Arizona 93-60
W Long Beach State 97-74
W Stephen F Austin 81-63
W Murray State 89-62
W San Diego Toreros 82-71
L UTEP Miners 77-73
L Long Beach State 73-70
W Alabama 97-84
W IUPUI Jaquars 66-43
W Missouri Tigers 74-58
L Auburn Tigers 89-88 2OT
W Florida Gulf Coast 71-57
W Georgetown Hoyas 70-53
L DePaul Blue Demons 71-68
W Seton Hall Pirates 69-58
L Butler Bulldogs 88-76
L Villanova Wildcats 88-75
W Marquette Golden Eagles 62-58
L Providence Friars 69-66 OT
W DePaul Blue Demons 89-76
W Georgetown Hoyas 66-53
L Seton Hall Pirates 90-82
L Creighton Bluejays 79-72 OT
W Providence Friars 78-69
W Marquette Golden Eagles 64-44
L St Johns Red Storm 78-70

vs Cincinnati Bearcats (17-8) (8-5) RPI 35 SOS 44

W St. Francis PA 52-37
W Morehead St. 69-61
W Eastern Illinois 54-49
W North Carolina Central 59-50
W Middle Tennessee 69-51
L Mississippi 66-54
W Stony Brook 78-52
L Nebraska 56-55
W San Diego St. 71-62
L VCU 47-68
W Wagner 72-48
W North Carolina St. 60-76
W SMU 56-50
W East Carolina 69-48
L Connecticut 62-56
L Memphis 63-50
W Temple 84-53
W Houston 67-54
W UCF 46-56
W Connecticut 70-58
L East Carolina 50-46
W SMU 54-62
W South Florida 63-58
L Temple 75-59
L Tulane 49-50

Wednesday Feb. 18, 2015 7:00 p.m. ET at UC
Television: ESPN
Radio: 550 WKRC

[beatuc]

Well most UC fans still think that UC is an elite basketball team that can look down on Xavier. UC doesn't need to play X anymore, and this is Xavier's super bowl. So nothing has really changed over the years except for the players. The delusion of the Bearcat fan base never surprises me. Screw them and I hope Xavier blows them out. I would settle for a close victory as well. Zip'em up!!

[XAVI3R23]

Long time viewer, first time poster. All of my friends are UC fans (intelligent ones I like to think) and all besides maybe 1 or 2 of them think Xavier is going to beat UC pretty good. Xavier is the better team and anyone who has watched UC at all this year will realize that. They are downright painful and almost not watchable on the offensive side of the ball. Their defense is good but not as good as it has been in years past. Xavier just needs to go into that dump and just move the ball around and knock down some open shots (hopefully). You never know with the Crosstown Shootout but I am actually glad it is not at Cintas this year. In the past 3 road games Xavier has looked much better and could have easily been 3-0 in those games. This game almost feels like a playoff game to get into the NCAA Tournament for both teams. Going to be a crazy environment. GO X!

[X-Fan]

Long time viewer, first time poster. All of my friends are UC fans (intelligent ones I like to think) and all besides maybe 1 or 2 of them think Xavier is going to beat UC pretty good. Xavier is the better team and anyone who has watched UC at all this year will realize that. They are downright painful and almost not watchable on the offensive side of the ball. Their defense is good but not as good as it has been in years past. Xavier just needs to go into that dump and just move the ball around and knock down some open shots (hopefully). You never know with the Crosstown Shootout but I am actually glad it is not at Cintas this year. In the past 3 road games Xavier has looked much better and could have easily been 3-0 in those games. This game almost feels like a playoff game to get into the NCAA Tournament for both teams. Going to be a crazy environment. GO X!
Solid first post! I agree on all accounts! Go X!!!!

[markchal]

Nothing in this game could surprise me. We could blow them out or it could be the night where UC hits every shot imaginable and we can't stop turning the ball over. This team is equally capable of producing either result.

[LadyMuskie]

I think what makes this game one of the most exciting on our schedule each year is that nothing that has happened before this game matters - for either team. It's such an emotional game that it's best to expect the unexpected.

[OH.X.MI]

I CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS GAME!!!! Let's go into clifton and remind everyone what Xavier Basketball is all about!!! Escalate the hate baby!!! (without any serious "confrontation" of course)

[Xaveriana]

My UC friend and I started a new tradition...Annual College Basketball Double Header. An XU game and a UC game in the same day. For our 1st Annual event we choose a criss-cross (XU/Marquette & UC/Temple). Former Big East, former A-10. Good time. Fully expected for UC to get blown-out, but they shot lights out for the 1st time all season. Dropped 55 on Temple in the 2nd half with lock-down defense. They are capable. Nothing would surprise me--a blow-out or a blown-out. Thought Mack figured out how to coach this team. Obviously I was wrong. Still have hope. Still hate UC.

[xsteve1]

Just can't seem to get up for this game this year. More worried about beating Butler and St. Johns. While this game would be nice to win X has to finish at least .500 in conference IMO to get an invite this year. Plus this ain't the UC teams of old.

[xu82]

I CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS GAME!!!! Let's go into clifton and remind everyone what Xavier Basketball is all about!!! Escalate the hate baby!!! (without any serious "confrontation" of course)

So... if '94 Grad blasts the UC mascot in the back of the head with his last ball, is that good clean halftime fun? Or a serious "confrontation"? Mascots should keep those giants heads on a swivel.

[THRILLHOUSE]

For those that care about what jersey X wears:

@XavierMBB UC will be wearing their black unis on Wednesday to go along with their "Black Out"... Should Xavier go WHITE or GREY? #CrosstownShootout

[LadyMuskie]

For those that care about what jersey X wears:

@XavierMBB UC will be wearing their black unis on Wednesday to go along with their "Black Out"... Should Xavier go WHITE or GREY? #CrosstownShootout

White. "For the light to shine so brightly, the dark must be present."

[OH.X.MI]

So... if '94 Grad blasts the UC mascot in the back of the head with his last ball, is that good clean halftime fun? Or a serious "confrontation"? Mascots should keep those giants heads on a swivel.

Mascot casualties are 100% acceptable... actually they are preferred!

[Milhouse]

Let's go in their building and show them how a Big East team plays.

[OH.X.MI]

How the hell does Paul Daugherty earn a living as a reporter? This is the only time of year I read his crap and it never ceases to amaze me what a terrible writer he is. Do bearcat fans even like Doc?

[outsideobserver11]

How the hell does Paul Daugherty earn a living as a reporter? This is the only time of year I read his crap and it never ceases to amaze me what a terrible writer he is. Do bearcat fans even like Doc?

Eh he's ok, much better than that hack Koch ( who is now somehow on UC's staff). UC fans pretty much hate the print media of the city as a whole because each writer always comes off as having a personal vendetta against the University.

Side note, I get the premise of this article below, but I thought her top 10 was pretty bad. Maybe that's just my UC bias showing though.

http://www.hercampus.com/school/xavier/10-reasons-why-xavier-better-uc

[OH.X.MI]

Side note, I get the premise of this article below, but I thought her top 10 was pretty bad. Maybe that's just my UC bias showing though.

http://www.hercampus.com/school/xavier/10-reasons-why-xavier-better-uc

I saw that too. I categorically hate buzzfeed-like "articles" and it's a pretty cliche list.

[Xavier]

That list is ridiculously dumb.

[BandAid]

I saw that too. I categorically hate buzzfeed-like "articles" and it's a pretty cliche list.

She's gotta be careful with the "this is our town" shtick. It's liable to get her punched. Or if she's Kenny Frease, stomped on.

[outsideobserver11]

She's gotta be careful with the "this is our town" shtick. It's liable to get her punched. Or if she's Kenny Frease, stomped on.

and if we are being serious, this town belongs to the Reds/Bengals when it comes to sports. UC and Xavier are just battling to be the tallest midget. :jumpforjoy:

[TUclutch]

Anyone have footage from the 04 shootout?

[Cataclysmo]

How the hell does Paul Daugherty earn a living as a reporter? This is the only time of year I read his crap and it never ceases to amaze me what a terrible writer he is. Do bearcat fans even like Doc?

Can't stand the guy. The enquirer treats him like an expert on all sorts of subjects because he obtained a degree that allows him to write. His opinion holds no more weight than any of your friends, family, or enemies. He's just another guy.

[Juice]

Can't stand the guy. The enquirer treats him like an expert on all sorts of subjects because he obtained a degree that allows him to write. His opinion holds no more weight than any of your friends, family, or enemies. He's just another guy.

He's the classic reason of why newspapers are dying. His opinions are tired, out of date, ill-informed, and mostly just dumb. No one in his age bracket likes him, and anyone younger than him sure as shit doesn't value his opinion on anything.

[D-West & PO-Z]

and if we are being serious, this town belongs to the Reds/Bengals when it comes to sports. UC and Xavier are just battling to be the tallest midget. :jumpforjoy:

Well I'd say Mick and UC have that wrapped up.

[XUFan09]

Eh he's ok, much better than that hack Koch ( who is now somehow on UC's staff). UC fans pretty much hate the print media of the city as a whole because each writer always comes off as having a personal vendetta against the University.

Side note, I get the premise of this article below, but I thought her top 10 was pretty bad. Maybe that's just my UC bias showing though.

http://www.hercampus.com/school/xavier/10-reasons-why-xavier-better-uc
I knew Koch left but didn't know where he went until you mentioned it. Being on UC's staff though doesn't surprise me. Maybe he did appear out to get the university as a whole but he was such a suck-up to Cronin specifically. And yeah, he is a hack.

I agree that Daugherty is okay, not terrible. The problem is that he is presented as one of the better reporters out there instead of what he is, mediocre and kind of a tool.

[xufan2434]

Really really really nervous about this game for the same reason everyone else is... I have no idea what to expect from X. I feel like I know how UC is going to play. I expect some really good defense, a loud crowd, some bricks but also some dagger threes..

Whether X comes to play like they can or not and continues it for 40 minutes is the biggest mystery of the year.

[xukeith]

Wake Stainbrook and Farr up for this game. They need career games.

[crolfes12]

If you are going wear WHITE

[DC Muskie]

I'm not kidding when I say this. I can't name one UC player.

[GoMuskies]

I'm not kidding when I say this. I can't name one UC player.

Ha, I can't either, and I didn't even realize it until I saw your post.

[X-Fan]

With tomorrow being Ash Wednesday, does X come out with ash crosses on their foreheads and psyche out UC a la Semi-Pro?!?

http://www.hotflick.net/flicks/2008_Semi-Pro/008SPR_Josh_Braaten_006.jpg

In all seriousness though I hate SucKS.

Catholics vs Convicts!

Go X!!!!

[DC Muskie]

Ha, I can't either, and I didn't even realize it until I saw your post.

Right? Normally they have a few guys you've heard of, or at least see them on TV. I don't even know who replaced the midget this season. Larry? Is his name Larry?

[LadyMuskie]

I think the idiot who got in Tu's face and escalated the nonsense a few years back is still there. That's all I got.

[DC Muskie]

I think the idiot who got in Tu's face and escalated the nonsense a few years back is still there. That's all I got.

Dez Wells is at Maryland now. Has been for a few seasons.







Laugh everybody, it's a joke!

[xu82]

Dez Wells is at Maryland now. Has been for a few seasons.






Laugh everybody, it's a joke!

Apparently, some jokes make me sad....

[Always Learning]

This is a game that when we are supposed to win, we win. And when we are not supposed to win, sometimes we do. And some of those times when we are not supposed to even be close, the game is up for grabs in the last minutes.
If I were UC, and thank God I'm not, I would not play us for all the tea in China. True, its our game of the year, always has been and always will be.
While those folks up north are always harping about how they are our biggest rival, they are just kidding themselves. UC is our rival, in any sport. And thru the years when we had football, Miami might well have been our second biggest rival.
I think we will win and I think we will win because we have better players and we have better coaching. Our players want this win, because their fellow students want the win. That is the big difference. There are literally thousands of UC students and alumni who don't even know the game is being played Wednesday night, or even care. But, you'd find that Musketeer easily.
I always loved the UC games, the atmosphere surrounding it, the load approval of a play, the hearty booing of a call, and grinning like a Cheshire Cat when we count down the winning final minutes.
To Chris, the entire team, and one for all.... go get 'em you Musketeers, go get 'em

[OH.X.MI]

I think the idiot who got in Tu's face and escalated the nonsense a few years back is still there. That's all I got.

Ellis is the only name I know. And his name recognition isn't from any praiseworthy achievements....

[Masterofreality]

Ellis is the only name I know. And his name recognition isn't from any praiseworthy achievements....

Ellis got dismissed, went into exile for 2 years at a Junior College and then was allowed back into the program?

WTF?

[LadyMuskie]

Ellis got dismissed, went into exile for 2 years at a Junior College and then was allowed back into the program?

WTF?

Actually, for UC, this makes perfect sense.

[Masterofreality]

Only thing that bothers me is that the Borecats shot 0-11 from 3 vs Toooolane.

Are they just horrific or will percentages come back into play?

[X-Fan]

Found this on the WLW Facebook page: Mo posted a number of YouTube links that have entire games from the '90s, including the 95-96 game in its entirety! I watched almost the whole game and got nearly as excited as I did back then when Charles Williams bounced the ball off his foot with 5 seconds to go. Man, I love that team!

http://www.espn1530.com/onair/mo-egger-9170/lets-watch-some-crosstown-shootouts-from-13261026/

[OH.X.MI]

Ellis got dismissed, went into exile for 2 years at a Junior College and then was allowed back into the program?

WTF?

Oh and lets not forget he was dismissed for assaulting someone at a night club, but X has the "character" issue these days, right?

[LadyMuskie]

Found this on the WLW Facebook page: Mo posted a number of YouTube links that have entire games from the '90s, including the 95-96 game in its entirety! I watched almost the whole game and got nearly as excited as I did back then when Charles Williams bounced the ball off his foot with 5 seconds to go. Man, I love that team!

http://www.espn1530.com/onair/mo-egger-9170/lets-watch-some-crosstown-shootouts-from-13261026/

I remember thinking Williams would turn up missing after that game and Huggins would be the prime suspect. He was pissed.

[Masterofreality]

Oh and lets not forget he was dismissed for assaulting someone at a night club, but X has the "character" issue these days, right?

Correct. Right back to the old SucKS. Time to add that little gem to my list of hate items.

[OH.X.MI]

And now Cronin is on 700WLW pretty much saying he would rather still have the game at US Bank. Screw yourself Mick, but get well soon.

[LadyMuskie]

And now Cronin is on 700WLW pretty much saying he would rather still have the game at US Bank. Screw yourself Mick, but get well soon.

For UC, playing at US Bank is a considerable upgrade from The Shoe/5/3rd/whatever. For starters, US Bank has actual seats and the neighborhood is much safer. My kid's grade school has nicer bleacher seats than UC, and the only thing that makes the crime rate in Clifton look paltry is ISIS.

[paulxu]

And now Cronin is on 700WLW pretty much saying he would rather still have the game at US Bank. Screw yourself Mick, but get well soon.

Is there any coach in the country besides this idiot that would pick a neutral site (other than on an island) over his home court to play a game?
I'm serious. That's nutso. How do the fans/players/alumni support this guy?

[muethibp]

Ha, I can't either, and I didn't even realize it until I saw your post.

My UC friends said something about a UC player being hurt. I had never heard the name before. And then I realized, I couldn't name even one player. Sitting here, I can't remember the name of the person they were talking about and so I'm back to not being able to name a player.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Found this on the WLW Facebook page: Mo posted a number of YouTube links that have entire games from the '90s, including the 95-96 game in its entirety! I watched almost the whole game and got nearly as excited as I did back then when Charles Williams bounced the ball off his foot with 5 seconds to go. Man, I love that team!

http://www.espn1530.com/onair/mo-egger-9170/lets-watch-some-crosstown-shootouts-from-13261026/

This is awesome. Thank you for posting. There goes my night.

[D-West & PO-Z]

This is awesome. Thank you for posting. There goes my night.

Man what a freaking squad we had in '96, some really good players. I loved the press.

Darnell Williams was my favorite player as a kid, oh what could have been if he didnt hurt his knee!

I just goggled him, he is an assistant basketball coach at Kentucky State University.

http://www.ksuthorobreds.com/coaches.aspx?path=&rc=37

[D-West & PO-Z]

Man what a freaking squad we had in '96, some really good players. I loved the press.

Darnell Williams was my favorite player as a kid, oh what could have been if he didnt hurt his knee!

I just goggled him, he is an assistant basketball coach at Kentucky State University.

http://www.ksuthorobreds.com/coaches.aspx?path=&rc=37

Oh thats right, we played them in an exhibition game during his first season with them. I remember him coming back.

[KC4X]

Check this out!

Lenny Brown with Mo Egger (http://www.espn1530.com/media/play/lenny-brown-with-mo-egger-25810749/)

[X-Fan]

Man what a freaking squad we had in '96, some really good players. I loved the press.

Darnell Williams was my favorite player as a kid, oh what could have been if he didnt hurt his knee!

I just goggled him, he is an assistant basketball coach at Kentucky State University.

http://www.ksuthorobreds.com/coaches.aspx?path=&rc=37


Oh thats right, we played them in an exhibition game during his first season with them. I remember him coming back.
Totally agree about the 95/96 team, and D Will was one of my favorites also. That was a talented group and he was EASILY the most talented before his injury. Just a pure scorer, with explosive moves. Will never forget his dunk off the opening tip against UMASS. The Gardens exploded after that!

Darnell is a good follow on Twitter (@coachdwill). He shares a lot of BBall and sports philosophy items and occasionally will throw in his own thoughts.

[X-Fan]

Check this out!

Lenny Brown with Mo Egger (http://www.espn1530.com/media/play/lenny-brown-with-mo-egger-25810749/)
That was great! Thanks for sharing!

Side note, did anyone see in the recent Enquirer article that Lenny has NINE kids! OMG! Is he collecting them?! I kid!

[D-West & PO-Z]

Totally agree about the 95/96 team, and D Will was one of my favorites also. That was a talented group and he was EASILY the most talented before his injury. Just a pure scorer, with explosive moves. Will never forget his dunk off the opening tip against UMASS. The Gardens exploded after that!

Darnell is a good follow on Twitter (@coachdwill). He shares a lot of BBall and sports philosophy items and occasionally will throw in his own thoughts.

Thom Brennaman was terrible announcing that game.

[Cataclysmo]

Is there any coach in the country besides this idiot that would pick a neutral site (other than on an island) over his home court to play a game?
I'm serious. That's nutso. How do the fans/players/alumni support this guy?

Mick was very, very upset after the brawl because of the hostile environment he walked into at Cintas. There was blue paint being thrown from the student section and the refs refused to put an end to all the trash talking. I'm sure you could argue that the players should have had a little bit more control regardless of the situation, but that's why Mick is not a fan of going back to Cintas.

And we support Mick because he's a genuinely good guy. He's UC through and through. With all the football coaching defections we've had, its nice to have a guy that's dedicated to the program no matter what. He's turned down better job offers and has consistently fielded tournament teams over the last few years. Above all else, he rescued us from the mess that ensued following the Huggins expulsion. I get that he's short, ugly, and has a temper, but I don't really see what there is to hate about him. Everything I've heard is that he's a stand-up guy. He's a single dad raising a young daughter and trying to push through a serious medical condition, how could you possibly have any animosity towards a guy like that?

[xu82]

First and foremost I pray for him to get well. Everything else is secondary. Jokes and snide comments hopefully can come later after he's fully recovered.

[OH.X.MI]

Saw this circulating on social media this afternoon. It's a female XU student talking about how uc's XavierGirlsAreUgy shtick is misogynistic. Which it is. But I don't expect clifton students to understand misogyny, so who cares. Still, the author absolutely decimates uc's neanderthal fan base with this last line...

"#XavierGirlsAreUgly is a form of bullying that is unacceptable. You want to talk shit about our free throw percentage go ahead, but then again, what conference are you in?"

http://heyembee.tumblr.com/

[LadyMuskie]

Are we back to the blue paint crap? Really? Because I know people who sit and were sitting that day in what would be the line of fire for the blue paint massacre and it didn't happen.

As for the trash talking, maybe Mick should have told his players not to run their mouths to the media before the game. Perhaps, had he been so conscientious about the consequences of trash talking then, things would have been quieter on the court.

Clearly Mick has rewritten the history of what went down that day and uc fans are such sheep that they're following along. Cronin has made the uc fan base a bunch of whiny babies in his image. They must all be so proud.

Zip em up!

[D-West & PO-Z]

I wouldnt want to go to Cintas if I were Mick either. How could he want to leave?

"Ok guys, back to Shoemaker/5/3/whateveritscalled"

That has to be depressing after being in the Cintas Center.

Going to Cintas is a reminder of how truly shitty their own arena is.

[TUclutch]

Mick was very, very upset after the brawl because of the hostile environment he walked into at Cintas. There was blue paint being thrown from the student section and the refs refused to put an end to all the trash talking. I'm sure you could argue that the players should have had a little bit more control regardless of the situation, but that's why Mick is not a fan of going back to Cintas.



No blue paint was thrown. That is a downright lie. I was right there. Secondly, I can have animosity towards Mick because I have met him a couple times in public and he is an absolute douche to people

[Cataclysmo]

No blue paint was thrown. That is a downright lie. I was right there. Secondly, I can have animosity towards Mick because I have met him a couple times in public and he is an absolute douche to people

I too was at the game, albeit, I had scored some last minute tickets and was seated rather high. My memory has also faded from that game, so I'm not all that confident in my recollection of the blue paint. I thought I remember seeing video of it at some point, but can no longer find it. Regardless, it seems we would get nowhere arguing such a point.

If you have any specific stories about Mick acting like a douche, I would love to hear them. From my accounts, hes been a respectable guy. I can't take your word for anything to the contrary if you don't provide anything substantial to base your claims.

[Cataclysmo]

Are we back to the blue paint crap? Really? Because I know people who sit and were sitting that day in what would be the line of fire for the blue paint massacre and it didn't happen.

As for the trash talking, maybe Mick should have told his players not to run their mouths to the media before the game. Perhaps, had he been so conscientious about the consequences of trash talking then, things would have been quieter on the court.

Clearly Mick has rewritten the history of what went down that day and uc fans are such sheep that they're following along. Cronin has made the uc fan base a bunch of whiny babies in his image. They must all be so proud.

Zip em up!

Youre misinterpreting what I said. I never asserted that Xavier was responsible for Mick's reluctance to play on the home courts. Rather, it was the hostility of Cintas, I.E, the home court, that was the cause for conflict. Cintas is a nice, compact arena with a very active fan base, and it is not a fun place for opponents to visit. That, in and of itself, is no cause for shame. However, when a heated rivalry such as this is placed in that kind of environment, it can be troublesome. And, obviously, Mick will have his own bias (just as the Xavier fan base will have theirs) and feel as if he may have been the victim to some extent. But, as far as i'm concerned, he acknowledged his own shortcomings in the aftermath and tried to discipline his players effectively. Just as Chris Mack did to his own. Both sides were clearly at fault, but the nature of the rivalry itself played a major role in creating the conflict. Hence, Mick felt a change needed to be made to prevent that.

[Cataclysmo]

I wouldnt want to go to Cintas if I were Mick either. How could he want to leave?

"Ok guys, back to Shoemaker/5/3/whateveritscalled"

That has to be depressing after being in the Cintas Center.

Going to Cintas is a reminder of how truly shitty their own arena is.

Yes, our arena is awful. Its outdated and makes for a poor viewing experience if you do not have the right seats. Thankfully, we just hired the same architect firm that designed GABP and the YUM center to renovate 5/3. I believe we are downsizing to a capacity similar to that of Cintas to provide a more condensed experience.

[kyxu]

Cintas is a nice, compact arena with a very active fan base, and it is not a fun place for opponents to visit. That, in and of itself, is no cause for shame. However, when a heated rivalry such as this is placed in that kind of environment, it can be troublesome.

What kind of environment would that be? One where fans actually show up and are loud? Sounds awful.

[bleedXblue]

Mick was very, very upset after the brawl because of the hostile environment he walked into at Cintas. There was blue paint being thrown from the student section and the refs refused to put an end to all the trash talking. I'm sure you could argue that the players should have had a little bit more control regardless of the situation, but that's why Mick is not a fan of going back to Cintas.

And we support Mick because he's a genuinely good guy. He's UC through and through. With all the football coaching defections we've had, its nice to have a guy that's dedicated to the program no matter what. He's turned down better job offers and has consistently fielded tournament teams over the last few years. Above all else, he rescued us from the mess that ensued following the Huggins expulsion. I get that he's short, ugly, and has a temper, but I don't really see what there is to hate about him. Everything I've heard is that he's a stand-up guy. He's a single dad raising a young daughter and trying to push through a serious medical condition, how could you possibly have any animosity towards a guy like that?

Mick May be a good guy, I don't know. He's certainly a douche bag evidenced by his mannerisms on the sidelines and the way he conducts himself at times.

[Titanxman04]

I too was at the game, albeit, I had scored some last minute tickets and was seated rather high. My memory has also faded from that game, so I'm not all that confident in my recollection of the blue paint. I thought I remember seeing video of it at some point, but can no longer find it. Regardless, it seems we would get nowhere arguing such a point.

If you have any specific stories about Mick acting like a douche, I would love to hear them. From my accounts, hes been a respectable guy. I can't take your word for anything to the contrary if you don't provide anything substantial to base your claims.

I've told these stories on here before, but I'll tell them again.

My best friend at X studied sport management with me. His family has excellent connections throughout the Ohio region and he was able to get a job with UC football after he graduated. Working within the athletic department, he often found himself at UC events such as basketball games. He told me two stories of Mick that are how I envisioned him.

1. Mick was pissed during some game going into half. His team was playing like shit (I cannot remember against who, it doesn't really matter) and he was screaming at his guys in the huddle. They try to run a play and they screwed it up and Mick throws his jacket down on the ground as they march into the locker room. Two minutes later, Mick is chastising someone as they walk back out onto the court, telling the kid that if he ever throws his jacket on the ground, he's the one who has to pick it up. Mick watches the kid pick it up and storms back into the locker room with the kid carrying his jacket.

2. It was a fall day around the office. Mick comes in with a UC hoodie on, the hood pulled all the way up and tightened around his face somewhat. It's tight enough that it's difficult to see the guy's face. As he comes into the office, after a few minutes, he finally pulls the hood down. Someone who my friend was talking to at the moment asked Mick, "It's not that cold or windy out, why did you have your hood up so tight?" Mick's response was, "I didn't want anyone to recognize me and bother me..." The word "CRONIN" was written across the hoodie. Classic Mick.

I hope he recovers. I have no reason to believe he's a bad father and commend him for trying to raise a child on his own. I have no ill will towards the guy outside of the basketball realm. That said, those are two firsthand accounts of Mick that I will never forget.

[SlimKibbles]

My sister frequented Head First downtown when she worked at a company near there. Obviously you get to know the bartenders and whatnot. I guess Mick was dating for a time one of the ladies who worked behind the bar. All my sister told me about it was Mick treated his girlfriend who worked there like shit. I'm 6'3" and don't know what it's like to have a Napoleon Complex but he sounds like he has one. None of that really surprised me from things I'd already heard.

That all said, I don't wish any ill-will towards the guy. I hope he recovers from his ailment and is back on the sidelines this season or next.

[GoMuskies]

This is a really stupid date for this game. If someone was looking to marginalize the Shootout, well done!

[Xville]

This is a really stupid date for this game. If someone was looking to marginalize the Shootout, well done!

The teams have marginalized this game themselves. The game is during rivalry week on ESPN at 7pm on ESPN2...I mean what more do you want? If the teams had both played better throughout the year, there would be more hype, but neither of these teams deserve it quite honestly.

[xavierj]

I don't know Mick, had a class with him at UC and seemed like a decent guy. However I wouldn't want young kids anywhere near his bench. He throws more f bombs and degrades his players more than any coach of have ever seen. So if he is so bent on Xavier fans actions maybe he should be more respectable of people and watch how he talks to players and refs on the sidelines.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I too was at the game, albeit, I had scored some last minute tickets and was seated rather high. My memory has also faded from that game, so I'm not all that confident in my recollection of the blue paint. I thought I remember seeing video of it at some point, but can no longer find it. Regardless, it seems we would get nowhere arguing such a point.

If you have any specific stories about Mick acting like a douche, I would love to hear them. From my accounts, hes been a respectable guy. I can't take your word for anything to the contrary if you don't provide anything substantial to base your claims.

Oh really, kind of like the invisible blue paint, and the "lost video" showing the invisible blue paint.

[BMoreX]

I was at the scorers table last year for the Shootout and Mick is constantly slinging f bombs at his team.

He also had a little tirade and got a tech. It was real tough to keep my composure for that.

[X-Fan]

Are we back to the blue paint crap? Really? Because I know people who sit and were sitting that day in what would be the line of fire for the blue paint massacre and it didn't happen.

As for the trash talking, maybe Mick should have told his players not to run their mouths to the media before the game. Perhaps, had he been so conscientious about the consequences of trash talking then, things would have been quieter on the court.

Clearly Mick has rewritten the history of what went down that day and uc fans are such sheep that they're following along. Cronin has made the uc fan base a bunch of whiny babies in his image. They must all be so proud.

Zip em up!
UC rubbed it in Xavier's faces the year before ('10-'11) when they beat X by 20. I recall UC taking 3's in the final minute, and had starters in, etc...
X gives it right back to UC the next year, and UC Flat Out could not handle it.
Trash talk, pushing and shoving occurs...and UC lands a few punches.
Somehow UC comes out of it looking like the victim when they were just as culpable, if not more. But X provided the sound bytes that everyone was looking for, and Mick gets his perfect storm.

To this day, I am still amazed that a team/program with the reputation of UC got the "pass", and X was shown no benefit of the doubt. What a freaking joke.

#stillbitter
#beatuc

[kyxu]

UC rubbed it in Xavier's faces the year before ('10-'11) when they beat X by 20. I recall UC taking 3's in the final minute, and had starters in, etc...
X gives it right back to UC the next year, and UC Flat Out could not handle it.
Trash talk, pushing and shoving occurs...and UC lands a few punches.
Somehow UC comes out of it looking like the victim when they were just as culpable, if not more. But X provided the sound bytes that everyone was looking for, and Mick gets his perfect storm.

To this day, I am still amazed that a team/program with the reputation of UC got the "pass", and X was shown no benefit of the doubt. What a freaking joke.

#stillbitter
#beatuc

I don't think either team, especially UC, got a "pass" in the situation. Both were lambasted by the media. The only difference was UC came off as embarrassed by the incident, while Xavier appeared to double-down on the altercation with that absolutely idiotic press conference. Not that I agreed with the public perception afterwards, but people seemed to more readily forget the felonious assault Gates and Mbodje committed in front of the world because of how quickly UC *appeared* repulsed by the incident in the aftermath.

Sidenote -- I always thought it interesting how Mick was applauded for his outrage after the game while Mack was chastised for not being upset enough. In reality, I think Mick was able to appropriately channel his disgust in his team's play into outrage and embarrassment over the fight. If the shoe was on the other foot and UC had come away with a 23-point win, I don't think Mick would have been nearly as upset in the aftermath, if at all. He likely would have defended his players, rather than throw them under the bus as he typically does after a UC loss.

[Kahns Krazy]

I've told these stories on here before, but I'll tell them again.

2. It was a fall day around the office. Mick comes in with a UC hoodie on, the hood pulled all the way up and tightened around his face somewhat. It's tight enough that it's difficult to see the guy's face. As he comes into the office, after a few minutes, he finally pulls the hood down. Someone who my friend was talking to at the moment asked Mick, "It's not that cold or windy out, why did you have your hood up so tight?" Mick's response was, "I didn't want anyone to recognize me and bother me..." The word "CRONIN" was written across the hoodie. Classic Mick.


This is hilarious because I observed the exact - and I mean exact - same behavior at a table at Arthurs in Hyde Park. Hoodie, pulled awkwardly up in a way that draws more attention than it prevents, Cronin on it, and he loudly told his waitress that he was doing it so nobody would notice him. I never saw anyone work so hard to get noticed. That was more sad than anything.

I hate "Mick Cronin the coach". I have not made any attempts to hide that fact. I could probably start a whole thread about it. As a man, I wish him no ill will. I have heard from sources that I trust that he is a good father, despite the situation that he is in. I can respect that. He has a vascular condition that could be problematic for him. He is taking care of that. I can respect that. He made a pass at one of the most attractive women I know at a bar one night. He got shot down in a blaze of glory, but he put himself out there. No disrespect there either.

As a coach, I hate him for having even less integrity than Bob Huggins did. In my mind, there is nothing worse.

I am going to enjoy thumping them on their home court. I will enjoy it a little less because Mick won't be there, but he's still the head coach of this team, and I want to pin another loss on him.

[Kahns Krazy]

Oh really, kind of like the invisible blue paint, and the "lost video" showing the invisible blue paint.

C'mon. Video on the internet wears out after people watch it too many times. You know this. Stuff just expires after a while. Happens all the time.

[Masterofreality]

Are we back to the blue paint crap? Really? Because I know people who sit and were sitting that day in what would be the line of fire for the blue paint massacre and it didn't happen.

As for the trash talking, maybe Mick should have told his players not to run their mouths to the media before the game. Perhaps, had he been so conscientious about the consequences of trash talking then, things would have been quieter on the court.

Clearly Mick has rewritten the history of what went down that day and uc fans are such sheep that they're following along. Cronin has made the uc fan base a bunch of whiny babies in his image. They must all be so proud.

Zip em up!

In am being bullied by the heavy hand of rep oppression. I am a bullying victim, but will overcome by making this public rep statement.

"REPS!"

[RealDeal]

Huggins and Mick have both made up stories about stuff being thrown at them and their team at Cintas in an effort to get out of playing there and getting their asses kicked. It's bullshit, I have personal knowledge of the situation when Huggins brought his team in and nothing like that occurred, ever.

And on the brawl, funny that it happened right in front of the UC bench yet Mick was nowhere to be seen. Until after it was all over and he could talk about how Tu was talking to his bench. Remember when Lance Stephenson was yapping at the X bench? Was there a brawl?

[chico]

C'mon. Video on the internet wears out after people watch it too many times. You know this. Stuff just expires after a while. Happens all the time.

I heard it was Jimmy Hoffa who took the video and it was last seen with D.B. Cooper shortly before he jumped out of the plane. Brian Williams did a whole piece on it.

[XU-PA]

Pre shootout winner.winners of the steel balls award goes to,,,, whoever did this!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10590642_948317871846532_2025815730382698991_n.jpg ?oh=d581820618ef1a722e1870fbd8e9a861&oe=554B4B2E&__gda__=1435712150_9081be4235f8a06352a8b54be1eab2f 4

[Masterofreality]

This is a really stupid date for this game. If someone was looking to marginalize the Shootout, well done!

Yeah, ESPN has all kinds of respect for their AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC contract. Arguably the biggest non-conference game on the league schedule and arguably the biggest OOC rivalry, and they schedule it in ESPN2 vs Louisville and a Syracuse team that is on self-imposed "probation and the North Carolina/Duke game later.

What garbage.

[Xville]

Yeah, ESPN has all kinds of respect for their AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC contract. Arguably the biggest non-conference game on the league schedule and arguably the biggest OOC rivalry, and they schedule it in ESPN2 vs Louisville and a Syracuse team that is on self-imposed "probation and the North Carolina/Duke game later.

What garbage.

No one outside of Cincinnati or X or UC fans give a crap about this game.

[LadyMuskie]

I heard it was Jimmy Hoffa who took the video and it was last seen with D.B. Cooper shortly before he jumped out of the plane. Brian Williams did a whole piece on it.

Brian Williams threw the first gallon of paint! He remembers it!

[Cataclysmo]

Brian Williams threw the first gallon of paint! He remembers it!

I already stated that my recollection of the paint was hazy and that I would drop the point. It serves no purpose attacking me on that front when I simply dismissed the notion myself.

And these stories about Mick are interesting. But two things:

1) Mick is not the first coach to drop an F bomb on the sideline. You ever seen Frank Martin coach? Bob Huggins? Those guys could be maniacs on the sideline. I think Mick just looks comical because of his odd facial expressions and quick temper. But, Micks players have never seemed to have an issue with him. If its true that he's making them pick up his jackets, then its surprising to me that guys like Sean Kilpatrick, Justin Jackson, Titus Rubles, etc. still attend games. Furthermore, we used to make a joke of it when Mick's jacket came off, and it has been awhile since it has. I don't think an attitude on the sidelines warrants the label of a "douche". You might not like it, and Chris Mack is obviously very different, but It seems to be pretty common.

2) The stories about him wearing a hoodie do not really make him seem like a douche either. Assuming they are true (and, as with all stories, they are probably not entirely) it makes Mick seem like he's either playing a joke or just being dumb. I don't think a guy whos making 2 million a year would actually think its a good strategy to get attention by pulling his hood tight like Kenny from South Park and shouting out his intentions to those around him. It seems far fetched, to the say the least.

In regards to the game: I have no idea what to expect tonight. I hope UC wins, but If they don't, I'll be the first one over here to congratulate you all.

[Cataclysmo]

C'mon. Video on the internet wears out after people watch it too many times. You know this. Stuff just expires after a while. Happens all the time.

No, but it can be difficult to find amidst the multitude of other videos they have on the Brawl. I'm not sure it really existed, I'll be the first to admit. That's why I dropped the point to begin with. If you take this conversation over to the UC boards, they would mock you for denying the existence of the blue paint.

[kellernr]

Do Xavier or UC keep all of the Shootouts in an archive or on DVDs? If they sold DVDs of the games I would buy them all from the 85 season to current. Want to have them all from when I was born until I die.

[kellernr]

In regards to the game: I have no idea what to expect tonight. I hope UC wins, but If they don't, I'll be the first one over here to congratulate you all.

If we can stop Caupain and Clark gets in early foul trouble then X should win easily. If Caupain plays like he was earlier in the year then i'll be worried. Ever since he was ejected he has been playing very timid.

[LadyMuskie]

I already stated that my recollection of the paint was hazy and that I would drop the point. It serves no purpose attacking me on that front when I simply dismissed the notion myself.

And these stories about Mick are interesting. But two things:

1) Mick is not the first coach to drop an F bomb on the sideline. You ever seen Frank Martin coach? Bob Huggins? Those guys could be maniacs on the sideline. I think Mick just looks comical because of his odd facial expressions and quick temper. But, Micks players have never seemed to have an issue with him. If its true that he's making them pick up his jackets, then its surprising to me that guys like Sean Kilpatrick, Justin Jackson, Titus Rubles, etc. still attend games. Furthermore, we used to make a joke of it when Mick's jacket came off, and it has been awhile since it has. I don't think an attitude on the sidelines warrants the label of a "douche". You might not like it, and Chris Mack is obviously very different, but It seems to be pretty common.

2) The stories about him wearing a hoodie do not really make him seem like a douche either. Assuming they are true (and, as with all stories, they are probably not entirely) it makes Mick seem like he's either playing a joke or just being dumb. I don't think a guy whos making 2 million a year would actually think its a good strategy to get attention by pulling his hood tight like Kenny from South Park and shouting out his intentions to those around him. It seems far fetched, to the say the least.

In regards to the game: I have no idea what to expect tonight. I hope UC wins, but If they don't, I'll be the first one over here to congratulate you all.

I was wrong. Brian Williams didn't throw the first gallon of paint. Cataclysmo IS Brian Williams! The fog of blue paint wars has made his recollection hazy.

As to your first point: I don't think using Frank Martin and Bob Huggins as examples of why it's okay to coach a particular way is a good move. It's like arguing that the Soviet pogroms were acceptable because Hitler had already orchestrated the Holocaust. I can add another story to those mentioned above. I know someone who was recruited by Mick Cronin to play ball at UC. After attending a game, he told his dad he would never play ball at UC because he couldn't play for a coach who talked to his players that way. He was a teenager appalled by what he witnessed, and this kid is no choir boy.

As to your second point: I find it hilarious that you think the stories about how Mick acts in public are far-fetched, but you're willing to promulgate the story about the UC bench being covered in blue paint. The blue paint story is even more verifiable than personal anecdotes, and yet you willingly spread it around until being called out on it.

Finally, we anxiously await your heartfelt congratulations.

[muskienick]

If we can stop Caupain and Clark gets in early foul trouble then X should win easily. If Caupain plays like he was earlier in the year then i'll be worried. Ever since he was ejected he has been playing very timid.

Now that this thread is back to basketball, can someone please tell me what this morning's betting line was in the Enquirer? A friend of mine and I are using that spread to determine the winner of our Bourbon bet. I've got the Muskies and he has the Bearcats. Whichever team beats the spread wins the bet. (It must be the spread listed in the Enquirer's betting section usually found on the second-last page of the Sports Section. I forgot to look for it and it went out with the garbage.)

[kyxu]

Now that this thread is back to basketball, can someone please tell me what this morning's betting line was in the Enquirer? A friend of mine and I are using that spread to determine the winner of our Bourbon bet. I've got the Muskies and he has the Bearcats. Whichever team beats the spread wins the bet. (It must be the spread listed in the Enquirer's betting section usually found on the second-last page of the Sports Section. I forgot to look for it and it went out with the garbage.)

Last I heard, UC -2.5

[kellernr]

uc -2 now

[drudy23]

Pre shootout winner.winners of the steel balls award goes to,,,, whoever did this!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10590642_948317871846532_2025815730382698991_n.jpg ?oh=d581820618ef1a722e1870fbd8e9a861&oe=554B4B2E&__gda__=1435712150_9081be4235f8a06352a8b54be1eab2f 4

That is awesome.

[American X]

I'm not kidding when I say this. I can't name one UC player.


Ha, I can't either, and I didn't even realize it until I saw your post.

Sean Fitzpatrick plays for UC.


http://pogues.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=4510&g2_serialNumber=2

[X-Fan]

Do Xavier or UC keep all of the Shootouts in an archive or on DVDs? If they sold DVDs of the games I would buy them all from the 85 season to current. Want to have them all from when I was born until I die.


Found this on the WLW Facebook page: Mo posted a number of YouTube links that have entire games from the '90s, including the 95-96 game in its entirety! I watched almost the whole game and got nearly as excited as I did back then when Charles Williams bounced the ball off his foot with 5 seconds to go. Man, I love that team!

http://www.espn1530.com/onair/mo-egger-9170/lets-watch-some-crosstown-shootouts-from-13261026/
I posted this earlier. Go to the 1530 URL. It has 4 or 5 games, most in their entirety. Very cool stuff.

Taking it a step further, the poster has a bunch of videos on his YouTube account. Feel free to go through them: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaFbPpG0500pNZCnbnmOmkg

I certainly wouldn't mind watching the UMASS vs X game in 1996. I was there and I'd love to relive some of the electric moments in that game (even though we lost).

[American X]

I'm sure you could argue that the players should have had a little bit more control regardless of the situation....

Yes, I would argue that Gates and Guyn should not have been pyschopaths.



I get that he's short, ugly, and has a temper, but I don't really see what there is to hate about him.

Your own query answered.



how could you possibly have any animosity towards a guy like that?

He coaches UC.

[muskienick]

KYXU & KELLERNR,

Is either of your lines the one found in this morning's Enquirer? My friend and I have designated only that line as the official one that will determine the winner of our bet.

[Milhouse]

I posted this earlier. Go to the 1530 URL. It has 4 or 5 games, most in their entirety. Very cool stuff.

Taking it a step further, the poster has a bunch of videos on his YouTube account. Feel free to go through them: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaFbPpG0500pNZCnbnmOmkg

I certainly wouldn't mind watching the UMASS vs X game in 1996. I was there and I'd love to relive some of the electric moments in that game (even though we lost).

This is AWESOME. Thank you. Checking out the 1996 shootout.

I was 6 at the time and not in Cincinnati.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Caupain and Cobb are their go-to guards. Cobb can flat out get hot and kill us. Clark is their better big man but Ellis is their biggest guy in the middle. When he is out they are forced to play smaller. These guys can defend against the best teams out there, however, they have very few shooters. When those guys are cold, score in the 40s and low 50s.

XU flat out has to limit turnovers and shoot decent tonight. I think if UC goes cold the 1-3-1 could be effective against their offense.

I watched UC against SMU, neither team had any shooters to speak of but UC stays in games by doing a few small things right. Defend and rebound and closing passing lanes are things that team does well. Their offense is putrid.

[Masterofreality]

I was wrong. Brian Williams didn't throw the first gallon of paint. Cataclysmo IS Brian Williams! The fog of blue paint wars has made his recollection hazy.

As to your first point: I don't think using Frank Martin and Bob Huggins as examples of why it's okay to coach a particular way is a good move. It's like arguing that the Soviet pogroms were acceptable because Hitler had already orchestrated the Holocaust. I can add another story to those mentioned above. I know someone who was recruited by Mick Cronin to play ball at UC. After attending a game, he told his dad he would never play ball at UC because he couldn't play for a coach who talked to his players that way. He was a teenager appalled by what he witnessed, and this kid is no choir boy.

As to your second point: I find it hilarious that you think the stories about how Mick acts in public are far-fetched, but you're willing to promulgate the story about the UC bench being covered in blue paint. The blue paint story is even more verifiable than personal anecdotes, and yet you willingly spread it around until being called out on it.

Finally, we anxiously await your heartfelt congratulations.

This is outstanding and superb posting. Again, REPS!

[kellernr]

KYXU & KELLERNR,

Is either of your lines the one found in this morning's Enquirer? My friend and I have designated only that line as the official one that will determine the winner of our bet.

I found mine on a vegas site. not sure what the enquire line was. sorry

[NY44]

No blue paint was thrown. That is a downright lie. I was right there. Secondly, I can have animosity towards Mick because I have met him a couple times in public and he is an absolute douche to people

I don't know why this is always a debate. Yes, a bottle of paint was thrown from the student section's right side, towards the UC bench. It just hit the ground, security quickly grabbed the student who did it, and sat him down on the arena floor. I'm not sure what punishment he got, but I watched it happen and know the kid who did it. It was after the brawl ensued and things were quieting down. Thankfully, no UC player made a big deal about it, because security did.

[Cataclysmo]

I don't know why this is always a debate. Yes, a bottle of paint was thrown from the student section's right side, towards the UC bench. It just hit the ground, security quickly grabbed the student who did it, and sat him down on the arena floor. I'm not sure what punishment, but I watched it happen and know the kid who did it. It was after the brawl ensued and things were quieting down. Thankfully, no UC player made a big deal about it, because security did.

In which case, we are both somewhat wrong.

Also, The Omar Little picture and Slim/Cutty signature is perfect.

[Cataclysmo]

I was wrong. Brian Williams didn't throw the first gallon of paint. Cataclysmo IS Brian Williams! The fog of blue paint wars has made his recollection hazy.

As to your first point: I don't think using Frank Martin and Bob Huggins as examples of why it's okay to coach a particular way is a good move. It's like arguing that the Soviet pogroms were acceptable because Hitler had already orchestrated the Holocaust. I can add another story to those mentioned above. I know someone who was recruited by Mick Cronin to play ball at UC. After attending a game, he told his dad he would never play ball at UC because he couldn't play for a coach who talked to his players that way. He was a teenager appalled by what he witnessed, and this kid is no choir boy.

As to your second point: I find it hilarious that you think the stories about how Mick acts in public are far-fetched, but you're willing to promulgate the story about the UC bench being covered in blue paint. The blue paint story is even more verifiable than personal anecdotes, and yet you willingly spread it around until being called out on it.

Finally, we anxiously await your heartfelt congratulations.

1) I wasn't using Martin and Huggins as examples of good coaching. I was simply stating that they exemplify the passion that many coaches exude into their performances. Chris Mack is probably one of the more tame guys out there, but in this age of basketball, it seems as if coaches dance like mad men on the sidelines to convey their points. Mick is no different. And i've never heard a story about a recruit that found Mick to be repulsive, personally. All I have to go on are the former players who still communicate with him. Lance Stephenson, Kilpatrick, Jackson, Rubles, Yancy, Cashmere Wright, and Jaquon Parker (who is on the staff now), all come to mind.

2) Perhaps you should recheck the definition of "promulgate". I stated it as a point, and then back tracked in my next post. I have since dismissed it entirely, and I apologize for even bringing it up. In no way did i "promulgate" the point.

[Cataclysmo]

Yes, I would argue that Gates and Guyn should not have been pyschopaths.




Your own query answered.




He coaches UC.

Holloway and Wells too. And for that matter, Cheik Mbodj, Octavius Ellis, and perhaps Mark Lyons.

[kellernr]

Xavier Musketeers vs Cincinnati Bearcats 1999: http://youtu.be/DdXchQy1_s0

[TUclutch]

http://www.700wlw.com/onair/lance-mcalister-7818/listen-mick-on-playing-crosstown-shootout-13265244/

LMAO Mick is a pussy

[TUclutch]

I was right by their bench. No paint or bottle came even close to their bench or players. Nothing was even in site. So if it was thrown, it was never closer than 30-40 feet

[Xville]

http://www.700wlw.com/onair/lance-mcalister-7818/listen-mick-on-playing-crosstown-shootout-13265244/

LMAO Mick is a pussy

Agreed....and i know this has been rehashed a million times, but i blame the coaches for that incident as much as anyone...why the hell there were so many starters out there at the end of the game is beyond comprehension.

[RealDeal]

http://www.700wlw.com/onair/lance-mcalister-7818/listen-mick-on-playing-crosstown-shootout-13265244/

LMAO Mick is a pussy

Now it's paint balls? Really?

[D-West & PO-Z]

Not Crosstown Shootout but gotta get you excited for Muskie basketball when watching this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVEIeD91vIc&feature=youtu.be

[Lamont Sanford]

The asshat also said that those people should have been arrested and sent to prison. Gimme a freaking break.

[NY44]

Also, The Omar Little picture and Slim/Cutty signature is perfect.

Indeed.

[Tu 4 MVP]

http://www.700wlw.com/onair/lance-mcalister-7818/listen-mick-on-playing-crosstown-shootout-13265244/

LMAO Mick is a pussy

He really is a pussy. He knows the chances of him winning at Cintas are very low so he makes up excuses on why not to play here. He acts like Cintas is some bastion of anarchy and violence, where anything goes. In reality, its mostly old white people who cant bother to stand up once during a game. I don't recall ever even seeing a single fight at Cintas. I hope he never goes to a Reds or Bengals game, he would be asking the city to move the teams.

[crolfes12]

Have 1 extra ticket tonight. Section 205 row 11.

Text 513-382-7801 if interested

[kyxu]

Not Crosstown Shootout but gotta get you excited for Muskie basketball when watching this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVEIeD91vIc&feature=youtu.be

I guess about as excited as a loss can get you...

[Xville]

man i miss Tu Holloway...I hope that someday again we have a guy that could put a whole team on his back and say let's ride.......

[D-West & PO-Z]

I guess about as excited as a loss can get you...

True but that was one of those rare losses, at least for me, that to an extent you arent distraught over because your team really gave everything they had and were spent. I dont think there was any way we would win the next game two days later. That would have been miserable losing to Butler to send them to a Final 4. Plus there were just so many big time moments between Tu and Crawford in that game.

[kellernr]

True but that was one of those rare losses, at least for me, that to an extent you arent distraught over because your team really gave everything they had and were spent. I dont think there was any way we would win the next game two days later. That would have been miserable losing to Butler to send them to a Final 4. Plus there were just so many big time moments between Tu and Crawford in that game.

I stayed up for that game and was tired as hell the next day at work. Hell of a game. Wasn't even that upset that we lost.

[LadyMuskie]

1) I wasn't using Martin and Huggins as examples of good coaching. I was simply stating that they exemplify the passion that many coaches exude into their performances. Chris Mack is probably one of the more tame guys out there, but in this age of basketball, it seems as if coaches dance like mad men on the sidelines to convey their points. Mick is no different. And i've never heard a story about a recruit that found Mick to be repulsive, personally. All I have to go on are the former players who still communicate with him. Lance Stephenson, Kilpatrick, Jackson, Rubles, Yancy, Cashmere Wright, and Jaquon Parker (who is on the staff now), all come to mind.

2) Perhaps you should recheck the definition of "promulgate". I stated it as a point, and then back tracked in my next post. I have since dismissed it entirely, and I apologize for even bringing it up. In no way did i "promulgate" the point.

So, now you want to tell us how good of a person Mick is because people like Yancy Gates and Lance Stephenson think so. Really? A sucker-puncher and a guy who throws his girlfriends down flights of stairs? You're making this too easy. Who else thinks he's great? Donald Little? Ruben Patterson? What's Art Long's opinion of him?

[paulxu]

This is just so much sh$t. Paint balls.
For the love of God, who is this guy?
This is sports, young guys, adrenaline. Fights happen.
People get over it. They move on.

Grow up Mick.

[LadyMuskie]

He really is a pussy. He knows the chances of him winning at Cintas are very low so he makes up excuses on why not to play here. He acts like Cintas is some bastion of anarchy and violence, where anything goes. In reality, its mostly old white people who cant bother to stand up once during a game. I don't recall ever even seeing a single fight at Cintas. I hope he never goes to a Reds or Bengals game, he would be asking the city to move the teams.

His own home arena stands in the area of town with the highest crime rate. You'd have to be a dingbat to walk around Clifton at night or in broad daylight and expect not to get mugged.

[BMoreX]

Did he really say paint balls?

I was sixth row, student section, on that side of the arena.

IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM was there any paint thrown into UC fans or players.

The only thing thrown during that game were punches, by UC Bearcats players.

[LadyMuskie]

The asshat also said that those people should have been arrested and sent to prison. Gimme a freaking break.

By "those people" I hope he means Yancy Gates and the Mbodj. I can't think of anyone else who should have been arrested. Maybe Mick himself for imitating a college basketball coach. Is that illegal?

Where's Q? He'd tell us all we need to remember is that we scored 73 and they embarrassingly scored 56 points.

[Cataclysmo]

So, now you want to tell us how good of a person Mick is because people like Yancy Gates and Lance Stephenson think so. Really? A sucker-puncher and a guy who throws his girlfriends down flights of stairs? You're making this too easy. Who else thinks he's great? Donald Little? Ruben Patterson? What's Art Long's opinion of him?

I was simplu stating that former players are still fomd of him. You're taking everything I'm saying way out of context.

[XMuskieFTW]

I was simplu stating that former players are still fomd of him. You're taking everything I'm saying way out of context.

Drunk already?

[LadyMuskie]

I was simplu stating that former players are still fomd of him. You're taking everything I'm saying way out of context.

You listed those two guys as being fans of Cronin's as a way to show us what a wonderful specimen of humanity he is. I, being a Xavier grad, was able to go the extra mile and extrapolate from the list of names you provided the fact that two of the men you listed are well-known for being violent people. Generally, when one is trying to prove that one is a glowing, respected, liked member of society, one doesn't include in his references criminals, because most people (UC fans seemingly the exception) seem to find criminal behavior abhorrent.

[RealDeal]

Actually yes it was paintballs, gotta come clean. Snipe paid Bradley Cooper to huddle in a suite with a paintball rifle and raise hell. He says it was worth every penny and Mick has no integrity.

[NY44]

Did he really say paint balls?

I was sixth row, student section, on that side of the arena.

IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM was there any paint thrown into UC fans or players.

The only thing thrown during that game were punches, by UC Bearcats players.

I swear that there was. You must have been right by me. The guy threw it from the way back of 117. It was a little bottle. Luckily it didn't cause any stir on the floor and was taken care of swiftly.

[novachap]

Good luck today folks, big one for BE!

[Xpectations]

I swear that there was. You must have been right by me. The guy threw it from the way back of 117. It was a little bottle. Luckily it didn't cause any stir on the floor and was taken care of swiftly.

You are correct. It was a bottle. And unlike what UC fans and coaches say they recall, it was absolutely not thrown at them. It was thrown (quite successfully) onto the court where it created a blue stain a couple feet long. Not only was the paint not thrown into the stands, it actually landed in bounds inside the court.

[xukeith]

Where are assistants Jeff Battle and Doug Wojic?

[LadyMuskie]

Actually yes it was paintballs, gotta come clean. Snipe paid Bradley Cooper to huddle in a suite with a paintball rifle and raise hell. He says it was worth every penny and Mick has no integrity.

Well now I'm angry. Bradley Cooper was at Cintas and no one let me know? Epic fail, guys. Epic fail.

[RoseyMuskie]

Who's calling this game?

[Masterofreality]

Trevon, settle down.

[bjf123]

Live chat tonight?


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[X-band '01]

Who's calling this game?

A nobody and Jim Calhoun.

[RoseyMuskie]

A nobody and Jim Calhoun.

I knew there was a reason I didn't like the color guy...

[Masterofreality]

Who's calling this game?

Joe and Byron on 55krc and I Heart Radio app.

[mohr5150]

I would love to find out what opposing team's are shooting against us after an offensive rebound. I would have to guess it's close to 75%

[RealDeal]

Shit

[paulxu]

Sloppy.

[xsteve1]

X looks awful.

[drudy23]

Wake up trevon!!!!!!!!

Earth to trevon!!!!!!!!

[xsteve1]

This may get ugly. X shooting nothing but 3's.

[BMoreX]

If we start shooting we'd be up 10. But they're playing aloppy

[RealDeal]

To many to's

[sgarcia]

Telegraphed passes and nobody moving without the ball on offense. We also have nobody who can drive by the UC defense.

[mistabeecee41]

Dee is our only guard who is capable of passing a basketball tonight.

[XMuskieFTW]

playing like crap so far. Take care of the ball and get rebounds

[Xavgrad08]

We have fallen in love with the three point line. Need to move the ball and try to get something inside.

[xavierj]

Xavier has missed 5 wide ass open 3's. Have to make those.

[paulxu]

Dee...pass the ball on the break...OK?

[XMuskieFTW]

Law of averages lololol

[RoseyMuskie]

Seniors rise up for this game. Loving Dee!

[Wheelhouse]

I've been a critic, but good Lord, Dee is on fire!

[paulxu]

Love me some transition basketball.

[XMuskieFTW]

Weird spot for a timeout.

[xsteve1]

stupid T/O. Lets see how X finishes the half,

[xsteve1]

killed mo

[xsteve1]

Thankfully Stain hit the jumper.

[paulxu]

Hot damn!

[BMoreX]

Deeeeeeeeee

[xsteve1]

Love that were making those 3's and UC is giving the shot to us but X has to get the inside game established second half.

[BandAid]

dee davis - omg

[xsteve1]

Dee haters will be quiet tonight.

[mistabeecee41]

The only negative to come from this half was me choosing jalen and trevon but not dee in my fanduel lineup.

[drudy23]

Dee haters will be quiet tonight.

Let's not speak too soon...alot of game left.

[XMuskieFTW]

Senior showing up big so far. Keep the intensity up I want 76-53

[XMuskieFTW]

Need to feed stain in the 2nd. A few buckets from him will keep the 3 open for the rest of the game.

[Blue Blooded-05]

Xavier looks like they're having fun out there tonight. In past seasons, we've seen how winning this game can bring the team together for a nice run in March. Let's hope they can keep this up and it'll be a catalyst for things to come.

[Xavgrad08]

Love the first half. X needs to keep that same intensity in the second half.

[Xville]

Wow dee davis incredible half! This game is really easy when you make shots. Let's cut down on the turnovers and establish the inside game in the second half and win this thing!

[xsteve1]

Bluiett get your head out of your ass.

[paulxu]

Boxing out would be good.
Not turning over would be good.

[XMuskieFTW]

Love that timeout to get Bluiett out. Need more size inside.

[xsteve1]

Love that timeout to get Bluiett out. Need more size inside.

Yeah, Clark is killing Bluiett.

[drudy23]

Guard Clark please

[Xville]

We need to value the ball more...11 turnovers already...come on boys!

[paulxu]

We seem complacent with the lead. Need to sharpen up all around.

[paulxu]

The dreaded double technical.

Reynolds made it to the second half!!

The guy says "Dee Davis caught in the trees." Ya think! Play smart guys.

[DC Muskie]

Double tech of course!

Have the refs ever heard of stepping in and having them stop. That was ridiculous.

[xsteve1]

Double tech of course!

Have the refs ever heard of stepping in and having them stop. That was ridiculous.

That tech. can be blamed on 2011

[bjf123]

The T was completely unnecessary


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[xsteve1]

There's a reason I hate Mack blowing timeouts after made buckets,

[xsteve1]

X is in trouble.

[xsteve1]

Good answer X.

[Xville]

Love the switch to zone now...uc looks confused

[xsteve1]

Big 4 minute war upcoming.

[XMuskieFTW]

Huge to turn that 4 point lead to 8 after UC seemed to be rolling a bit. Love the switch up to the zone.

[xsteve1]

14 turnovers.

[xsteve1]

Excellent defense by Jalen.

[BMoreX]

Fuck

[XMuskieFTW]

Ugh turnovers killing us.

[mistabeecee41]

You're a grown man stain. Go up like one.

[Xville]

Ugh I wish stain could jump

[X Factor]

Please don't choke this away

[paulxu]

A made 3 would be nice.

[XMuskieFTW]

You can't miss that bunny stain. Ugh

[paulxu]

Missing bunnies. Ugh.

[xsteve1]

C'mon Stain. Christ.

[paulxu]

Let's win the last 4 minute war. Go Muskies.

[Xville]

Mental and physical fortitude time. Can this team win a close game?

[Blue Blooded-05]

I have no confidence in us coming up with a loose ball scrum. I don't know what it is, but it never seems to go our way.

[X Factor]

How many layups has Stain missed?

[XMuskieFTW]

My soul hurts

[Xville]

Good timeout there...come on guys sack the hell up and win this

[xavierj]

Stainbrook totally choked in this game. Microcosm of his season.

[xsteve1]

Here we go. Can X win a close game or are they too weak mentally. UC has killed us this half. 17 freakin points.

[X Factor]

How long has it been since X scored?

[X Factor]

Stain...uhhhgggg!!

[LadyMuskie]

We're going to win!

[xsteve1]

X is done.

[muethibp]

How long has it been since X scored?

we have 1 point in 6 minutes.

Chris Mack has basically no idea what to do.

[paulxu]

Sorry, Dee in the trees is just a bad play.

[X Factor]

Epic choke job

[xsteve1]

This is sad. Just dominated.

[BMoreX]

Come on guys

[X Factor]

No leadership at all

[Bulldawg]

Such a flop...yall need to win because I don't see you guys dropping 2 in a row, smash these punks

[GreatWhiteNorth]

Feeling sick right now!

[BMoreX]

What a horrible half

[Xville]

This team seriously pisses me off at times

[XMuskieFTW]

This last minute really defines what this season becomes. Please guys.

[DC Muskie]

I always like it when the ref in the worst position to make the call, makes the horrible call.

[Blue Blooded-05]

C'mon X!!!!!!!

[XMuskieFTW]

I can't believe this.

[paulxu]

I wonder where the first half team went?

[Xville]

Ballgame

[paulxu]

Man up. Get this thing.

[xsteve1]

Just shoot a 3 here and see what happens.

[xavierj]

Again coach had them in the right spots and Matt can't finish. Pathetic.

[BandAid]

Just shoot a 3 here and see what happens.

we've shot 1 three in the 2nd half

[Blue Blooded-05]

I'm gonna see Clark doing that spin move hook shot in my nightmares tonight

[X Factor]

Unbelievable. Weakest team mentally ever!!!!!! Suck so bad in crunch time.

[BandAid]

there it is!

[DC Muskie]

Just shoot a 3 here and see what happens.

Good call Steve. Well done.

[Blue Blooded-05]

Dee!!!!!!!!!!!

[paulxu]

The offensive rebounds have killed us.

[X Factor]

No toughness to get a rebound when the game is on the line!!!!!!!!!

[Xville]

Get an effing rebound fuck guys

[xsteve1]

Cmon Tre.

[Xville]

Thank god for dee this game.. never going to say another bad thing about the kid.

[paulxu]

Hot damn.

[xavierj]

Dee Davis. That is all.

[Bulldawg]

Great win guys.

[Xville]

Holy crap!!!!!!!!÷! We are the best team ever!!!!!!!

[xsteve1]

X finally won a close one. Cobb was wide ope.

[LadyMuskie]

We're going to win!

You gotta believe!

[paulxu]

Dee in the trees...bad.

Dee for three...good!