UC game(Early thoughts watching them play)

[Xavier]

Playing the AAC...home of the defending national champion probably helps more.

But that's not to discount those 2 NCAA first round wins the Big East had last year. That was impressive.

Just because UC got kicked out of the Big East doesn't mean you have to whine about it. There's a reason UC would give anything to be in the Big 12 or ACC or Big 10. And there is a reason no one wants them and they are in the AAC

[Masterofreality]

"Just Fine"

Definition: More money than MASTEROFREALITY

hope that clears it up.

I doubt it.

I'm way more than "just fine" thank you...and mine is real.

[Xville]

"Just Fine"

Definition: More money than MASTEROFREALITY

hope that clears it up.

You have been on a rival board now all day...I know someone who is not just fine. You may want to seek professional help

[LA Muskie]

Playing the AAC...home of the defending national champion probably helps more.

But that's not to discount those 2 NCAA first round wins the Big East had last year. That was impressive.

Might help UConn to be the defending national champ. I tend to doubt it helps UC. Unless the pitch is "you couldn't possibly play for these guys, but you'll start here as a frosh."

[Masterofreality]

By the way, "Corie" really does look like he's doing "just fine" in this mug shot.
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[Masterofreality]

By the way, "Corie" really does look like he's doing "just fine" in this mug shot.
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That being said, I will give Corie Blount credit for actually doing something productive now with his life. Have never seen anything that "Gradu8" does, but it sounds like a positive concept.

[sweet67]

Villanova over Georgetown 1985

I'm sure you knew the answer to my question. You are still gutless.Jay.

my gawd that's a long time ago.

[sweet67]

Just because UC got kicked out of the Big East doesn't mean you have to whine about it. There's a reason UC would give anything to be in the Big 12 or ACC or Big 10. And there is a reason no one wants them and they are in the AAC

Nothing wrong with the AAC. The conference has a 100% success rate of producing the NCAA Division 1 basketball national champion (both men's and women's)

[D-West & PO-Z]

Just saw on Twitter that UConn just lost to Houston.

Houston's first win in the AAC this year.

[Xavier]

my gawd that's a long time ago.

Then what does that make UCs national championships?

[sweet67]

Just because UC got kicked out of the Big East doesn't mean you have to whine about it. There's a reason UC would give anything to be in the Big 12 or ACC or Big 10. And there is a reason no one wants them and they are in the AAC

The AAC celebrates National Championships

The Big East celebrates Butler's November non-conference upset victories

[Xavier]

Nothing wrong with the AAC. The conference has a 100% success rate of producing the NCAA Division 1 basketball national champion (both men's and women's)

Love it! You know when it's bad when you have to bring in Women's sports. Gold.

[sweet67]

Then what does that make UCs national championships?

The last NCAA men's Division 1 basketball national championships won by a University from the city of Cincinnati.

[sweet67]

Love it! You know when it's bad when you have to bring in Women's sports. Gold.

I'm Title IX compliant.

[Xavier]

The last NCAA men's Division 1 basketball national championships won by a University from the city of Cincinnati.

Classic. "Damn that's so long ago"

...."oh wait, UC won before that." Whoops! Didn't think that one through, huh?

[Masterofreality]

Then what does that make UCs national championships?

Before Loyola Chicago. #irrelevance

[LA Muskie]

The AAC celebrates UCONN's National Championships
Fixed that for you.

[X-band '01]

Fixed that for you.

The Big West should also celebrate UNLV's national title. Oh wait, they're not there anymore.

[sweet67]

The Big West should also celebrate UNLV's national title. Oh wait, they're not there anymore.

Then Xavier should quit celebrating the non-conference success of other Big East teams, it has nothing to do with them.

[Xavier]

Then Xavier should quit celebrating the non-conference success of other Big East teams, it has nothing to do with them.

Literally all UC talked about in Big East. But now it's different. Look UC got their chance in the Big East and couldn't handle it- it's Xavier's turn.

[sweet67]

Literally all UC talked about in Big East. But now it's different. Look UC got their chance in the Big East and couldn't handle it- it's Xavier's turn.

When UC was in the Big East, Providence, Seton Hall, DePaul, and St. Johns were bottom feeders according to many posters on this very board. And the league was affectionately called the Big Least.

Xavier is now struggling with those same schools you once called bottom feeders.

Can you imagine how Xavier would be doing if UConn, Cuse, WVU, Pitt, ND, UC, Louisville etc were still in the real Big East with them?

But my question remains.....are Depaul, SHU, Providence, and the Johnnies bottom feeders?

[XU 87]

Only eastside jay would be on a Xavier message board instead of watching the Super Bowl. Weird.

[LA Muskie]

Then Xavier should quit celebrating the non-conference success of other Big East teams, it has nothing to do with them.

We're not celebrating the success of other Big East schools. We are noting the significant difference between our respective schedules. We are #6 in the nation according to KenPom, due in large part to the overall strength of the Big East. UC comes in at 106, and the BEST schedule in the AAC is South Florida at 67 -- higher than ALL 10 of the Big East schools.

Remind me how difficult the AAC is again?

[LA Muskie]

Can you imagine how Xavier would be doing if UConn, Cuse, WVU, Pitt, ND, UC, Louisville etc were still in the real Big East with them?
Based on our head-to-head results, I can't fathom we would have done any worse against those schools than UC did in its time in the Big East. And by the numbers we theoretically should have done better.


But my question remains.....are Depaul, SHU, Providence, and the Johnnies bottom feeders?
And I already answered this.

[Xavier]

When UC was in the Big East, Providence, Seton Hall, DePaul, and St. Johns were bottom feeders according to many posters on this very board. And the league was affectionately called the Big Least.

Xavier is now struggling with those same schools you once called bottom feeders.

Can you imagine how Xavier would be doing if UConn, Cuse, WVU, Pitt, ND, UC, Louisville etc were still in the real Big East with them?

But my question remains.....are Depaul, SHU, Providence, and the Johnnies bottom feeders?

Backtracking like crazy. Love it. "But but our big east was better". Still bragging about the conference over the team. Classic UC

[dnnrobert]

Literally all UC talked about in Big East. But now it's different. Look UC got their chance in the Big East and couldn't handle it- it's Xavier's turn.

Couldn't handle it? You and everyone else on this board knows why UC struggled its first few years in the Big East. Once the program was stabilized and reestablished, UC did just fine in arguably the toughest basketball conference.

[Xavier]

Couldn't handle it? You and everyone else on this board knows why UC struggled its first few years in the Big East. Once the program was stabilized and reestablished, UC did just fine in arguably the toughest basketball conference.

Yeah. They couldn't handle it. Sorry.

[vee4xu]

Only eastside jay would be on a Xavier message board instead of watching the Super Bowl. Weird.

I was watching the Super Bowl until Seattle scored that TD before halftime. I have been telling myself that I wish both teams could lose, but as this game as gone on, my passion is for hating Seattle, that punk Lynch, that punk Sherman and that cheater Carroll. Too pissed to hang around for Katie Perry, which doesn't matter because I can't name even one of her songs.

[vee4xu]

Oh, by the way, did UC win today? I think they played a team with a losing record, but don't even know who. Sort of like Katie Perry.

[dnnrobert]

Yeah. They couldn't handle it. Sorry.

And how could they not handle it? Their run in the Big East began when the program was basically gutted and trotting out football players and JUCO castaways. They improved nearly every season in the conference and when the conference imploded, were one of the more respected teams in the league. I think Xavier could compete in the old Big East as well. I don't let bias and irrationality color my opinions regarding rival schools.

[vee4xu]

Well, there's not much happening here. I've settled a bit, so let me go see if the Cheaters can beat the Thugs.

[LA Muskie]

And how could they not handle it? Their run in the Big East began when the program was basically gutted and trotting out football players and JUCO castaways. They improved nearly every season in the conference and when the conference imploded, were one of the more respected teams in the league. I think Xavier could compete in the old Big East as well. I don't let bias and irrationality color my opinions regarding rival schools.
You are delusional if you think that is true. UC was an absolute afterthought in Big East basketball. Granted Xavier would have been as well, if we were in the conference at the time. But let's not pretend anyone considered UC a "real" Big East basketball member...

[dnnrobert]

You are delusional if you think that is true. UC was an absolute afterthought in Big East basketball. Granted Xavier would have been as well, if we were in the conference at the time. But let's not pretend anyone considered UC a "real" Big East basketball member...

I am merely speaking from my experience interacting with fans of other Big East schools. It took many years, but towards the end I was hearing nothing but positive things from fans of Syracuse, UConn, Pitt, and others. That era of the Big East was all about physical, scrappy teams who played 40 minutes of defense. Once UC was able to build its talent back to a respectable level, they fit right in with that culture and earned respect from the rest of the conference. I'm not naive enough to believe UC was/is on the same level as Syracuse, Louisville, or UConn, but I do believe they were poised to have a long run among the top half of the league.

[LA Muskie]

I am merely speaking from my experience interacting with fans of other Big East schools. It took many years, but towards the end I was hearing nothing but positive things from fans of Syracuse, UConn, Pitt, and others. That era of the Big East was all about physical, scrappy teams who played 40 minutes of defense. Once UC was able to build its talent back to a respectable level, they fit right in with that culture and earned respect from the rest of the conference. I'm not naive enough to believe UC was/is on the same level as Syracuse, Louisville, or UConn, but I do believe they were poised to have a long run among the top half of the league.
Ah...OK I thought you were saying something else. I think that's fair -- I do think UC became (and would have consistently remained) a top half Big East basketball school.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I am merely speaking from my experience interacting with fans of other Big East schools. It took many years, but towards the end I was hearing nothing but positive things from fans of Syracuse, UConn, Pitt, and others. That era of the Big East was all about physical, scrappy teams who played 40 minutes of defense. Once UC was able to build its talent back to a respectable level, they fit right in with that culture and earned respect from the rest of the conference. I'm not naive enough to believe UC was/is on the same level as Syracuse, Louisville, or UConn, but I do believe they were poised to have a long run among the top half of the league.

So 8th place? It wasnt that hard to be in the top half of that monster conference.

[xeus]

Too pissed to hang around for Katie Perry, which doesn't matter because I can't name even one of her songs.

That's a shame. You missed what was arguably the best halftime show ever. She was awesome.

Hey sweet67, nice avatar! I remember that guy!

[dnnrobert]

So 8th place? It wasnt that hard to be in the top half of that monster conference.

How is it any easier to finish 8th in a 16-team conference than to finish 5th in a 10-team conference? That logic makes no sense.

[XU 87]

That's a shame. You missed what was arguably the best halftime show ever. She was awesome.

Hey sweet67, nice avatar! I remember that guy!

Is his avatar a picture of Dontonio Wingfield? Is he the guy that beat up his grandmother or mother for not letting him drive the car?

P.s. He was the guy from Georgia who was going to be ineligible so UC arranged for him to transfer to Taft so he could graduate.

[muskienick]

For sure. But aren't we the pots calling there kettle black on this? The Big East was not the 2nd ranked conference last year.

LA, where did I say we should use this year as the yardstick. The point I was trying to make is that the UC fans who have strangely hopped onto this board are using a single year to try to justify relevance to the AAC as being superior to the Big East. Take off your sack cloth and realize that things change, in our case for the better. Are we (the Big East) forever going to be the second-best basketball Conference in the U.S.? Perhaps not. But we should not concede superiority to a Conference that now includes a bunch of no-names and directional schools along with four very respectable Universities: UConn, Memphis, Temple, and UC.

The Big East is now youth-loaded. The talent is there already and recruiting is at a high standard. If anything, the Big East is likely to climb even higher as the years go one because we have put all our money and emphasis on big-time college basketball. Fox has pinned its future on the Big East and is putting its money on the deal. The AAC has a few great institutions, each of which is trying to find a safer haven for their football and basketball programs. None of the AAC football programs are likely to draw considerable interest (on their own) from the ACC or Big 12, the two P5 programs most likely to need help before imploding. Temple, UC, UConn, and Memphis all have inherent long-term weaknesses in their major athletic programs that the Big 12 (especially) and the ACC (to a lesser extent) lack.

In the long run, I might be wrong and the AAC might become a juggernaut and necessitate us changing the terminology to P6. Or, the Big East might retain its high standing (within the top 6 among big-time basketball Conferences). Personally, my OPINION (and that's all it is) is that the latter is more likely than the former.

[vee4xu]

That's a shame. You missed what was arguably the best halftime show ever. She was awesome.

Hey sweet67, nice avatar! I remember that guy!

I'll take your word for it.

[LA Muskie]

LA, where did I say we should use this year as the yardstick. The point I was trying to make is that the UC fans who have strangely hopped onto this board are using a single year to try to justify relevance to the AAC as being superior to the Big East. Take off your sack cloth and realize that things change, in our case for the better. Are we (the Big East) forever going to be the second-best basketball Conference in the U.S.? Perhaps not. But we should not concede superiority to a Conference that now includes a bunch of no-names and directional schools along with four very respectable Universities: UConn, Memphis, Temple, and UC.

The Big East is now youth-loaded. The talent is there already and recruiting is at a high standard. If anything, the Big East is likely to climb even higher as the years go one because we have put all our money and emphasis on big-time college basketball. Fox has pinned its future on the Big East and is putting its money on the deal. The AAC has a few great institutions, each of which is trying to find a safer haven for their football and basketball programs. None of the AAC football programs are likely to draw considerable interest (on their own) from the ACC or Big 12, the two P5 programs most likely to need help before imploding. Temple, UC, UConn, and Memphis all have inherent long-term weaknesses in their major athletic programs that the Big 12 (especially) and the ACC (to a lesser extent) lack.

In the long run, I might be wrong and the AAC might become a juggernaut and necessitate us changing the terminology to P6. Or, the Big East might retain its high standing (within the top 6 among big-time basketball Conferences). Personally, my OPINION (and that's all it is) is that the latter is more likely than the former.

I think you read too much into my post. Read my others.

My point was simply that saying THEY are relying on a single-season sample size is a tough argument when the BE really only has THIS year to brag about.

[muskienick]

You UC apologists: answer us this---

How have UC and Xavier fared against one another since Xavier joined UC in actually taking their basketball seriously? You know - head-to-head. That's the best way to compare two programs. Even during your Bob Huggins days, we bested you head-to-head. We have continued doing so since Huggins left UC for K-State and WVU.

[muskienick]

I think you read too much into my post. Read my others.

My point was simply that saying THEY are relying on a single-season sample size is a tough argument when the BE really only has THIS year to brag about.

While other Muskie fans might be bragging about it, I did not nor did I try to use this current season as evidence that the Big East is obviously a better Conference than the ACC. So don't use my post as the whipping boy for your differences with other Muskie posters on this thread!

[LA Muskie]

While other Muskie fans might be bragging about it, I did not nor did I try to use this current season as evidence that the Big East is obviously a better Conference than the ACC. So don't use my post as the whipping boy for your differences with other Muskie posters on this thread!

Dude I wasn't saying you said anything about the Big East. My initial post copied you because you said the following, which inspired my post:


Great statistician that you are, you have used a 1-year sample in a weak attempt to make your point!

Sorry if I seemed to be implying more about your position. It was not intended.

[xsteve1]

I just want to than XUKeith for starting this thread.

[sweet67]

You UC apologists: answer us this---

How have UC and Xavier fared against one another since Xavier joined UC in actually taking their basketball seriously? You know - head-to-head. That's the best way to compare two programs. Even during your Bob Huggins days, we bested you head-to-head. We have continued doing so since Huggins left UC for K-State and WVU.

UC leads the series 49 to 32
Xavier also trails the series with Dayton 83 to 71

[LA Muskie]

But really the only important question is who won in 1956.

[sweet67]

But really the only important question is who won in 1956.

Looks like they split.

[xu82]

Looks like they split.

It was amusing for a while.....

[LadyMuskie]

It was amusing for a while.....

You're being too kind. It was never amusing. Stupidity like his wears thin immediately.

[sweet67]

You're being too kind. It was never amusing. Stupidity like his wears thin immediately.

Lady, stupidity is you posting on a men's basketball board and thinking people care or respect a women's opinion on the subject.

Go bother Doris Burke or Pam Ward on twitter instead.

[Nigel Tufnel]

Arguing with UC fans is like trying to figure out why Carroll didn't run Skittles 4 straight times...an exercise in futility. Go smoke a bowl, bang your spouse and be happy. We'll find out who is better in about 2 weeks.

[Xavier]

Lady, stupidity is you posting on a men's basketball board and thinking people care or respect a women's opinion on the subject.

Go bother Doris Burke or Pam Ward on twitter instead.

I've never seen someone get so rattled so quickly.

[xudash]

Lady, stupidity is you posting on a men's basketball board and thinking people care or respect a women's opinion on the subject.

Go bother Doris Burke or Pam Ward on twitter instead.

Damn, you're dumb.

[xu82]

Lady, stupidity is you posting on a men's basketball board and thinking people care or respect a women's opinion on the subject.

Go bother Doris Burke or Pam Ward on twitter instead.

My bad, I took you seriously a first. I skimmed and missed the point. Have a nice life. (Hopefully better than your current miserable existance).

[JohnW22]

If the AAC or whatever it's called is so good why do teams want out of it so bad?

[paulxu]

I can NOT believe I just took 10 minutes catching up on the crap in this thread.
Didn't any of you people watch the Super Bowl?

These UC posters are a very strange bunch of people.

[LadyMuskie]

Lady, stupidity is you posting on a men's basketball board and thinking people care or respect a women's opinion on the subject.

Go bother Doris Burke or Pam Ward on twitter instead.

Oooh. The sexist burn. So clever. Gosh. With me being such a delicate little flower whatever shall I do? I do so hope this doesn't bring on the vapors.

[Xavier]

If the AAC or whatever it's called is so good why do teams want out of it so bad?

It's not. Both UC posters have admitted as much-they want out so badly but realize the poor bball play while in the Big East is what's holding them back. Big east ball isn't CUSA and obviously AAC. They know now where they belong and can do just fine at Mid major level. Sure was a fun experiment though.

[dnnrobert]

If the AAC or whatever it's called is so good why do teams want out of it so bad?

The AAC isn't so good. The basketball honestly is fine, although the directional schools are awful and drag down everyone's SOS/RPI. Really it's about football and money. Even at 13-0, an AAC football champion has no chance at the CFP unless they are fortunate enough to schedule (and beat) multiple top 25 teams out of conference. And an invite to the ACC or Big 12 for a school like UC would translate to at least $20 million annually in television and bowl money.

[LA Muskie]

It's not. Both UC posters have admitted as much-they want out so badly but realize the poor bball play while in the Big East is what's holding them back. Big east ball isn't CUSA and obviously AAC. They know now where they belong and can do just fine at Mid major level. Sure was a fun experiment though.
You think BASKETBALL is the reason UC finds itself in the AAC???

[dnnrobert]

It's not. Both UC posters have admitted as much-they want out so badly but realize the poor bball play while in the Big East is what's holding them back. Big east ball isn't CUSA and obviously AAC. They know now where they belong and can do just fine at Mid major level. Sure was a fun experiment though.

Obviously you are counter-trolling here, but I will bite. As I have said before, UC did just fine in the Big East once the program stabilized from the Huggins/Kennedy/Zimpher debacle. But even if it hadn't, we all know conference realignment as it pertains to the "P5" leagues has very little to do with basketball. It's all about football, fan support, and television markets. Basketball is far down the list, somewhere near academics depending on the conference in question.

[LA Muskie]

The AAC isn't so good. The basketball honestly is fine, although the directional schools are awful and drag down everyone's SOS/RPI. Really it's about football and money. Even at 13-0, an AAC football champion has no chance at the CFP unless they are fortunate enough to schedule (and beat) multiple top 25 teams out of conference. And an invite to the ACC or Big 12 for a school like UC would translate to at least $20 million annually in television and bowl money.

This is a pretty rational viewpoint. The problem with AAC basketball is there are too many directional schools and they are HUGE drains on the rest. Of the 11 schools, 5 are perpetually and abjectly horrible. Duquesne and Fordham bad.

[XfansinKy]

Even though both teams haven't been as good as what we're used to the last few years, it's still one of the best rivalry games in college basketball.

[Masterofreality]

dnnrobert is a fine poster. Respect .

[Milhouse]

Xavier 15-13 vs. UC since the introduction on the 3 point line.

Most would consider the 3 point line a pretty big deal in Basketball.

But keep clinging to National Championships that happened before current players PARENTS were born.

[Cheesehead]

This will an interesting game. UC is athletic but can't shoot very well and their offense just disappears at times. No real go to guy. XU has trouble defending and has shown stretches where they fade mentally. I expect a low scoring, very physical games. If X can can shoot a reasonable % from three point line, I think they get out of the Shoe w/ a close win.

[Lamont Sanford]

One sec please. UC lost to ECU 50-46?!?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Thanks again for the great laugh.

[muskienick]

UC leads the series 49 to 32
Xavier also trails the series with Dayton 83 to 71

Prior to Bob Staak's hire as XU's first modern-day coach in the era when Xavier finally established itself as a true (although humble, at first) Division 1 program, Xavier would traditionally play a large number of games against the following types of non-D-1 programs: Aquinas, Thomas More, Wheeling, Berea, Union (Ky), Walsh College, NKU, St. Joseph's (IN), Centre College, Campbellsville (KY), Ashland, Transylvania, Hanover, Anderson (IN), Kenyon, John Carroll, Southwestern, Otterbein. Ohio Wesleyan, etc. These types of colleges were all scheduled during Tay Baker's 6 years at Xavier (along with traditional rivals UC, Miami, and Dayton). Baker immediately preceded Staak and Xavier's admission into the MCC (now called the Horizon Conference).

During the Staak, Gillen, Prosser, Matta, Miller, and Mack years (seasons 1979-80 through the present), Xavier has the following record versus UC (20 wins - 14 losses) and Dayton (43 wins and 25 losses) assuming Xavier's Media Guide is correct and I counted correctly (with the first more likely than the second). Prior to Staak's hiring, Xavier Basketball simply was not taken very seriously by the Xavier Administration and the annual athletic budget and XU's playing facilities and fan base would be ample proof of that. With Bob Staak given a better recruiting budget, Xavier's fan base grew rapidly, demanded more challenging schedules, and games were soon moved to the Cincinnati Gardens to accommodate the 8,000 - 10,000+ fans who clamored for tickets.

That might help to explain why XU's pre-Staak record against UC and Dayton was so humble --- the Xavier Administration did not create a D-1 atmosphere in which Muskie Basketball could compete.

[outsideobserver11]

Wow...I see all my UC people are swinging by like asshats in full force this weekend. News flash to the UC folks on here, this is a rival message board so they aren't going to say glowing things about us and they will be confident they will beat us. This is nothing new. Most of the people here are good people and they think no differently about us then we do about them. The game will come, we will all beat our chests and say we are superior, 1 team actually will be on that day, and then they get bragging rights for the year. Nobody on this board cares if they were right about Gary Clark playing the 3 or the 4, or whether Ellis is better than Jackson; they are Xavier fans so of course they think they are better. It's so stupid seeing UC people come on here to stir up some trouble, then go back to the UC boards and talk all about it like your looking for a high five. Just save yourself the trouble guys and keep the conversation civil.

Now I'll try not to fall as I climb down off this soapbox.

[X-man]

Prior to Bob Staak's hire as XU's first modern-day coach in the era when Xavier finally established itself as a true (although humble, at first) Division 1 program, Xavier would traditionally play a large number of games against the following types of non-D-1 programs: Aquinas, Thomas More, Wheeling, Berea, Union (Ky), Walsh College, NKU, St. Joseph's (IN), Centre College, Campbellsville (KY), Ashland, Transylvania, Hanover, Anderson (IN), Kenyon, John Carroll, Southwestern, Otterbein. Ohio Wesleyan, etc. These types of colleges were all scheduled during Tay Baker's 6 years at Xavier (along with traditional rivals UC, Miami, and Dayton). Baker immediately preceded Staak and Xavier's admission into the MCC (now called the Horizon Conference).

During the Staak, Gillen, Prosser, Matta, Miller, and Mack years (seasons 1979-80 through the present), Xavier has the following record versus UC (20 wins - 14 losses) and Dayton (43 wins and 25 losses) assuming Xavier's Media Guide is correct and I counted correctly (with the first more likely than the second). Prior to Staak's hiring, Xavier Basketball simply was not taken very seriously by the Xavier Administration and the annual athletic budget and XU's playing facilities and fan base would be ample proof of that. With Bob Staak given a better recruiting budget, Xavier's fan base grew rapidly, demanded more challenging schedules, and games were soon moved to the Cincinnati Gardens to accommodate the 8,000 - 10,000+ fans who clamored for tickets.

That might help to explain why XU's pre-Staak record against UC and Dayton was so humble --- the Xavier Administration did not create a D-1 atmosphere in which Muskie Basketball could compete.

This is way too rational a post for any uc trolls to understand. Do what I do and put 'em on "Ignore". You can't argue with cretins.

[nuts4xu]

That might help to explain why XU's pre-Staak record against UC and Dayton was so humble --- the Xavier Administration did not create a D-1 atmosphere in which Muskie Basketball could compete.

Xavier also joined a conference at the same time Bob Staak took over the program. This was a huge step in the direction of our program, because it allowed us to compete in the modern day landscape of college basketball.

[gladdenguy]

my gawd that's a long time ago.


UC leads the series 49 to 32
Xavier also trails the series with Dayton 83 to 71

So 1985 was a long time ago????
Look up when the majority of those Dayton and sUCks wins came against Xavier. This guy needs to eat an extra large bag of dicks.

[Milhouse]

Sweet67:

Miami Leads UC 59-53 all time in Football.

Guess you're their little brother in that right?

[XU Cowbell Kid]

You shut down your football program due to lack of fan support.

UC took 30K+ fans to a bowl game 900 miles away. When was the last time a Xavier sporting event drew more than 10,400 fans.

March 18, 2014. 12,077 fans on hand to watch the NCAA Tournament game against NC State.

Also, are we really using football to argue about which basketball team is better? And comparing the crowds? When was the last time UC had a sold out game for their basketball team?

(I'll give you a hint - the answer is not even from this season - March 6, 2014. The last time Xavier did it? Their last home game, a little over a week ago. And the time before that? Two weeks ago. I think I'm seeing a trend here...)

[XU Cowbell Kid]

Lady, stupidity is you posting on a men's basketball board and thinking people care or respect a women's opinion on the subject.

Go bother Doris Burke or Pam Ward on twitter instead.

Dang it, I hadn't seen this one until after I posted my last response. If I had known this guy was this big of a moron, I would never have given him the time of day.

[xu82]

Dang it, I hadn't seen this one until after I posted my last response. If I had known this guy was this big of a moron, I would never have given him the time of day.

It happened to me too. It's OK. Move on...

[LadyMuskie]

Last night I thought he was just trying to offend me, but today I realize it was really an attempt to offend me and all of you guys too. Either way, considering the source, still don't care.

[xu82]

Last night I thought he was just trying to offend me, but today I realize it was really an attempt to offend me and all of you guys too. Either way, considering the source, still don't care.

Strangely, I think it may have irked me more than you. The only time I have ever deleted a post. Now I'm fully aware of the silliness. (Super Bowl festivities at work.) Ahh, life moves on.

[xudash]

Wow...I see all my UC people are swinging by like asshats in full force this weekend. News flash to the UC folks on here, this is a rival message board so they aren't going to say glowing things about us and they will be confident they will beat us. This is nothing new. Most of the people here are good people and they think no differently about us then we do about them. The game will come, we will all beat our chests and say we are superior, 1 team actually will be on that day, and then they get bragging rights for the year. Nobody on this board cares if they were right about Gary Clark playing the 3 or the 4, or whether Ellis is better than Jackson; they are Xavier fans so of course they think they are better. It's so stupid seeing UC people come on here to stir up some trouble, then go back to the UC boards and talk all about it like your looking for a high five. Just save yourself the trouble guys and keep the conversation civil.

Now I'll try not to fall as I climb down off this soapbox.

Well done.

[xudash]

Sweet67:

Miami Leads UC 59-53 all time in Football.

Guess you're their little brother in that right?

Ha!

[LadyMuskie]

Strangely, I think it may have irked me more than you. .

Being a girl who likes sports, I've heard a lot worse.

And since it was a UC fan, I'd have been more surprised if his response wasn't like that of a neanderthal.

[sweet67]

Being a girl who likes sports, I've heard a lot worse.

And since it was a UC fan, I'd have been more surprised if his response wasn't like that of a neanderthal.

Lady, I hate to break it to you, but I'm not lying when I say no one cares what you have to say about Xavier basketball.

Everyone on this board will rush to your defense, but if they were being honest with themselves, no guy takes anything a women has to say about sports seriously. It's not cool to be the girl that is "hanging out with the guys talking sports." It's annoying. We don't give a shit about your opinion and don't want you around during sports. The only time we want you around is for the post game beej.

I hate to sound harsh, but it's the truth. And everyone knows it.

And anyone that tries to disagree with this is full of sh*t and prolly has the ghey.

[xu82]

Please people, ignore the fools. Responding just makes it worse.

[waggy]

I hate to break it to you, but I'm not lying when I say no one cares what you have to say ..It's annoying. We don't give a shit about your opinion and don't want you around..
I hate to sound harsh, but it's the truth. And everyone knows it.

And anyone that tries to disagree with this is full of sh*t and prolly has the ghey.


Child please.

[Masterofreality]

Ah, HA! A "Sweet" Banning.

The executioner has little patience. We will await the troll's return under another non de plume. I doubt he'll stay away long.

[American X]

Lady, stupidity is you posting on a men's basketball board and thinking people care or respect a women's opinion on the subject.

Go bother Doris Burke or Pam Ward on twitter instead.


Lady, I hate to break it to you, but I'm not lying when I say no one cares what you have to say about Xavier basketball.

Everyone on this board will rush to your defense, but if they were being honest with themselves, no guy takes anything a women has to say about sports seriously. It's not cool to be the girl that is "hanging out with the guys talking sports." It's annoying. We don't give a shit about your opinion and don't want you around during sports. The only time we want you around is for the post game beej.

I hate to sound harsh, but it's the truth. And everyone knows it.

And anyone that tries to disagree with this is full of sh*t and prolly has the ghey.


Normally, I would delete such drivel, but framing this to highlight the attitude and contributions of the typical UC fan. Do not let the rare reasonable UC fan who is not a crushing beer cans on his head watching the game in an unfinished basement cretin fool you. Go back to your miserable hole, mouth-breather.

[Milhouse]

He continues to go after Lady but ignores my Miami little brother comment.

Guess he didn't have a response :) I only post this because I know he will still read it.

AAC is close to the MAC in football now too....Miami and UC will be a lot more competitive when it comes to football in years to come.

[RealDeal]

This is what Eastside Jay always does, he tries to actually defend Hugs and bash X, loses the argument, and then lashes out while pissing his pants and having a breakdown. Pathetic and sad. Hopefully he will stay gone for a while.

[Cheesehead]

I think it is amusing that the UC fan w/ 38 posts on an XU board is telling a poster w/ 3,500 posts what to do. What a dickhead.

[LadyMuskie]

I think someone really wanted to be president of the LadyMuskie Fan Club he himself started. He even took the time to rep me with more UC genius in between being obsessed and trying to drag all mankind down to his level. He was something else. I'd say he'll be missed, but I don't like to lie.

[Masterofreality]

I think someone really wanted to be president of the LadyMuskie Fan Club he himself started. He even took the time to rep me with more UC genius in between being obsessed and trying to drag all mankind down to his level. He was something else. I'd say he'll be missed, but I don't like to lie.

He was probably really just stalking you...in that twisted "Bad Boy" logic that if I demean and criticize her, she'll think I'm hot.

Yeah, that ALWAYS works. :rolleyes::

[xeus]

His last post was pretty funny.

[Lamont Sanford]

His last post was pretty funny.

What he said. I have to admit it did make for a good laugh this morning when I read it.

(No offense LM.)

[paulxu]

If stalking the Lady M was a ban worthy offense, half you guys wouldn't be here.

[xu82]

If stalking the Lady M was a ban worthy offense, half you guys wouldn't be here.

Apparently it's not that you stalk, but more about how you stalk.

[PMI]

His last post was pretty funny.

Not gonna lie, I laughed. I think it was "the post game beej" that really made it. I also found it amusing that he attacks Lady Muskie by saying "nobody cares about your opinion." This all while everyone is surely awaiting anxiously to be enlightened by his next thoughtful opinion.

[LadyMuskie]

The whole thing was amusing. It's so easy to rile up the homophobic, emasculated virgins on the internet. Like shooting fish in a barrel.

[xeus]

The whole thing was amusing. It's so easy to rile up the homophobic, emasculated virgins on the internet. Like shooting fish in a barrel.

Wait, what does homophobia have to do with anything? Are you a lesbian??

[LadyMuskie]

Wait, what does homophobia have to do with anything? Are you a lesbian??
Sorry. I'm not. But he said anyone who "defended" me was gay. Prolly.

[PMI]

Sorry. I'm not. But he said anyone who "defended" me was gay. Prolly.

I believe he said they "prolly has the ghey." Jury's still out on that one.

[pimpinthebox]

I'm gonna have to go with the folks who laughed while reading it knowing full well it wasn't the right thing to do. Still laughing, in fact.

[paulxu]

Am I a lesbian if I like women?

[Cataclysmo]

I stepped away for too long apparently, this thread went from 12 to 36 pages in a few days. Anyways, it looks like UC and X both faced a setback. UC's loss really stung because ECU is, no excuses, terrible. As was that loss. Obviously, we aren't worse than ECU, but the game was nice evidence to show that our team can't handle success with a road trip looming. Fortunately, the shootout is at 5/3, which gives us a great advantage. As someone said, UC is something like 26-2 in the last couple years at home.

Its my understanding that X is pretty much the opposite of UC? Too much offense, not enough d? Should be interesting to see how that applies to the game. And don't count us out yet. The year of the brawl, we lost to Presbyterian and ended the year in the sweet 16. Bad losses happen to the best teams, and I'm pretty confident UC can bounce back from it. Same goes for X.

[gladdenguy]

UC just made up for their loss in a big way last night. Their first half was pathetic with 12 turnovers but because they play excellent defense they were able to stay in the game and win it in the last 8 minutes. Defending will hide some of the flaws.

Xavier, on the other hand, struggles for a half and because they play piss poor defense and can't get stops when they need them.....have lost close games all year. Thanks Mack. Whether its coaching or just recruiting guys who can't play defense......this will be another year of not making the tourney. Driving the program to mediocrity and below. Way to be Chris!!!!!!!

UC probably will have their highest output of the year on February 18th. Meanwhile, Xavier will jack up threes and play terrible defense.
Add that to the fact that this X team is terrible on the road and it equates to no crosstown hope. Again, thanks Mack.

[xudash]

I stepped away for too long apparently, this thread went from 12 to 36 pages in a few days. Anyways, it looks like UC and X both faced a setback. UC's loss really stung because ECU is, no excuses, terrible. As was that loss. Obviously, we aren't worse than ECU, but the game was nice evidence to show that our team can't handle success with a road trip looming. Fortunately, the shootout is at 5/3, which gives us a great advantage. As someone said, UC is something like 26-2 in the last couple years at home.

Its my understanding that X is pretty much the opposite of UC? Too much offense, not enough d? Should be interesting to see how that applies to the game. And don't count us out yet. The year of the brawl, we lost to Presbyterian and ended the year in the sweet 16. Bad losses happen to the best teams, and I'm pretty confident UC can bounce back from it. Same goes for X.

You should be proud of your guys for the performance they put on last night. Taking out SMU at their place was a nice scalp. UC certainly is athletic.

[GoMuskies]

UC is going to kill us.

Or we're going to kill them.

Unfortunately, I really have no idea which way it's going to go since our team is so schizophrenic.

[xudash]

UC is going to kill us.

Or we're going to kill them.

Unfortunately, I really have no idea which way it's going to go since our team is so schizophrenic.

You can't begin to know how much we're finally in total agreement about something. I have no CLUE how that game will turn out, though I know in which direction I'll be calibrating my expectations at this point.

[Classof1985]

You can't begin to know how much we're finally in total agreement about something. I have no CLUE how that game will turn out, though I know in which direction I'll be calibrating my expectations at this point.

UC is still a young team. But they play suffocating defense. And defense rarely takes a night off, since defense is reliant to a large extent on preparation and hustle, two things in control of the coaches and players. and the game will be at 5/3, and XU has not fared well on the road this year at all.

The recent run of form would suggest that UC has a distinct advantage. But this match-up frequently ends up counter to form. Anything can happen (and may well).

I think Matt Stainbrook will be the key for X on offense. If he can score inside, he can open up the outside shooters for Xavier. The big questions are can X play defense well enough to stifle UC? Which UC shooting team will show up - the one that played Sunday, or last night's team?

[xudash]

UC is still a young team. But they play suffocating defense. And defense rarely takes a night off, since defense is reliant to a large extent on preparation and hustle, two things in control of the coaches and players. and the game will be at 5/3, and XU has not fared well on the road this year at all.

The recent run of form would suggest that UC has a distinct advantage. But this match-up frequently ends up counter to form. Anything can happen (and may well).

I think Matt Stainbrook will be the key for X on offense. If he can score inside, he can open up the outside shooters for Xavier. The big questions are can X play defense well enough to stifle UC? Which UC shooting team will show up - the one that played Sunday, or last night's team?

Good post. If Matt Stainbrook is the key, then he had better find a way to not get stuffed 13 inches from the basket that night.

And what happened on WLW last night? I didn't catch it, but apparently something having to do with Mack and Myles Davis having differing views on leadership and who is to blame for that?

[casualfan]

UC just made up for their loss in a big way last night. Their first half was pathetic with 12 turnovers but because they play excellent defense they were able to stay in the game and win it in the last 8 minutes. Defending will hide some of the flaws.

Xavier, on the other hand, struggles for a half and because they play piss poor defense and can't get stops when they need them.....have lost close games all year. Thanks Mack. Whether its coaching or just recruiting guys who can't play defense......this will be another year of not making the tourney. Driving the program to mediocrity and below. Way to be Chris!!!!!!!

UC probably will have their highest output of the year on February 18th. Meanwhile, Xavier will jack up threes and play terrible defense.
Add that to the fact that this X team is terrible on the road and it equates to no crosstown hope. Again, thanks Mack.

That was one of the weirdest games I have watched all season. The first half was like a train wreck. I just couldn't look away.

10 of their first 13 possessions were turnovers, but they somehow kept it close.

I really have no idea what to think about the shootout.

One thing I did notice is that UC runs a very unconventional defense. It seems to be a matchup zone type of a deal where they play with man principles, but switch everything on the perimeter.

I haven't seen anybody play anything like it all year.

[Olsingledigit]

That was one of the weirdest games I have watched all season. The first half was like a train wreck. I just couldn't look away.

10 of their first 13 possessions were turnovers, but they somehow kept it close.

I really have no idea what to think about the shootout.

One thing I did notice is that UC runs a very unconventional defense. It seems to be a matchup zone type of a deal where they play with man principles, but switch everything on the perimeter.

I haven't seen anybody play anything like it all year.

Actually Bobby Knight ran a similar defense at Indiana. He always professed to never have used a zone but he had a defense very similar to what UC is playing. I do believe it will be difficult for us to beat UC for a variety of reasons: 1) We are not playing particularly well as pointed out; 2) we stink on the road; 3) They are likely pissed from last year; and 4) we have a lot of players who have not played in this game and likely will not grasp the meaning and intensity until, unfortunately, it might be too late.

[Xavier_Musketeers]

We need a lot of fans there so if we start losing they can bring us back up. Also, we need to shoot the three well, if we get down early it will be hard to get back if we can't make threes

[Masterofreality]

One thing I did notice is that UC runs a very unconventional defense. It seems to be a matchup zone type of a deal where they play with man principles, but switch everything on the perimeter.

I haven't seen anybody play anything like it all year.

That is probably the exact defense WE should be using, with no hedging and an occasional switch to pure zone.

CMack always seems to rationalize why he shouldn't use a zone like "we went zone and Creighton hit a 3". I guess he forgot the two traveling calls on Creighton bigs while in zone and all the 3's made
when NOT in zone.

[casualfan]

That is probably the exact defense WE should be using, with no hedging and an occasional switch to pure zone.

CMack always seems to rationalize why he shouldn't use a zone like "we went zone and Creighton hit a 3". I guess he forgot the two traveling calls on Creighton bigs while in zone and all the 3's made
when NOT in zone.

MOR, I don't necessarily disagree, BUT from what i can tell it is a very complicated defense.

I don't think it is a coincidence how good UC is defensively and how bad they are defensively. If i were a betting man i would bet they spent/spend a lot of their practice time installing that defense.

I think X would do very well running a complicated zone, but I wonder at what expense (i.e. worse offense).

[Masterofreality]

MOR, I don't necessarily disagree, BUT from what i can tell it is a very complicated defense.

I don't think it is a coincidence how good UC is defensively and how bad they are defensively. If i were a betting man i would bet they spent/spend a lot of their practice time installing that defense.

I think X would do very well running a complicated zone, but I wonder at what expense (i.e. worse offense).

I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that teams don't see it much, just like with Syracuse's "matchup zone" and it's hard to replicate in practice.

[Classof1985]

I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that teams don't see it much, just like with Syracuse's "matchup zone" and it's hard to replicate in practice.

I am sure that familiarity has something to do with it. But UC's zone employs a lot of man-to-man principles in the match-up and help rotation. They are using it because, unlike last year, they don't have the players to employ the switch-everything man-to-man that Cronin likes to use.

Interesting thought here relative to coaching - Cronin switched his main defensive scheme this year to this match-up zone because he didn't have the players to play the man-to-man he would like. They are putting up results similar to last year defensively. Granting that no one here like the way Cronin coaches, the question is: why didn't Chris Mack realize the apparent shortcomings of his team defensively and switch his base defense to something else?Shouldn't the coach either be recruiting players that fit his scheme or changing the scheme to fit his players?

[Xville]

Just using a straight up man to man and actually fighting thru screens would be a heckuva lot better than the Roger Dorn O'lay defense we play on a consistent basis. I'm so sick of us hedging and switching every screen...there is nothing that drives me more crazy than seeing Dee Davis on the opposing team's center...it's infuriating and it's because the scheme we are using is terrible for this group of players. Mack's insistence on using things that don't fit the group of players that are on the floor is asinine. I'm sorry I'll jump off my soapbox now.

[kyxu]

Just using a straight up man to man and actually fighting thru screens would be a heckuva lot better than the Bill Dorn O'lay defense we play on a consistent basis. I'm so sick of us hedging and switching every screen...there is nothing more that drives me crazy than seeing Dee Davis on the opposing team's center...it is infuriating and it's because the scheme we are using is terrible for this group of players. Mack's insistence on using things that don't fit the group of players that are on the floor is asinine. I'm sorry I'll jump off my soapbox now.

Roger Dorn, you mean

[Xville]

Roger Dorn, you mean

My bad....thats what i get for trying to be clever.

[Xavier_Musketeers]

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I kind of hope UC gets ranked before we play them, so if we beat them that will be a huge win especially on the road, and it will be a great resume booster

[XUOWNSUC]

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I kind of hope UC gets ranked before we play them, so if we beat them that will be a huge win especially on the road, and it will be a great resume booster

Don't get your hopes up - there is no way Xavier is beating uc - especially on the ROAD.

[American X]

Don't get your hopes up - there is no way Xavier is beating uc - especially on the ROAD.

But you said XU OWNS UC?

[XUOWNSUC]

But you said XU OWNS UC?

It's an old name that I should probably change.

[D-West & PO-Z]

It's an old name that I should probably change.

Probably not, because they do.

[crolfes12]

Have 4 tickets in section 225 row 19
and
2 tickets in section 225 row 25

$45 each
Discount for XU fans

text 513-382-7801 if interested

[xukeith]

Have 4 tickets in section 225 row 19
and
2 tickets in section 225 row 25

$45 each
Discount for XU fans

text 513-382-7801 if interested

You could not pay me to enter Shoemaker(5/3rd) eww.

[StanleyOwnsYou]

UC looked about as bad as they have looked all year this tuesday at Temple. They turned it over repeatably and didn't play their normal defense as they gave up over 70 for the first time in like 13,493,539 games (exaggeration). I'm becoming more and more optimistic about the game next week.

If we can play through Matt/Jaylen inside (they only play 1 true big most of the time whether it is Ellis or DeBerry), it should open up our wings for good looks. Probably going to come down if we can hit enough shots. Big nights from Trevon, JP or Myles would certainly go a long way to winning.

[Xavier]

I'd say the 1-3-1 would dismantle them but frankly man to man D may be better. UC's biggest chance is either getting really hot from 3 or crashing the offensive glass. I know zone is a little more difficult to rebound out of so may not be smart considering that is a big part of UC offense.

Matt and Reynolds can dominate down low. If this was at home I'd expect a somewhat easy double digit win. On the road in what is the biggest game of the regular season for the Bearcats? makes it more interesting.

[xuwin]

The key for Xavier is to keep UC off of the offensive glass and hope that a poor shooting team doesn't get hot from the three.

[Lamont Sanford]

We also must be able to handle the full court press they use. Gotta limit TO's as best as possible.

[LA Muskie]

I'd say the 1-3-1 would dismantle them but frankly man to man D may be better. UC's biggest chance is either getting really hot from 3 or crashing the offensive glass. I know zone is a little more difficult to rebound out of so may not be smart considering that is a big part of UC offense.

Matt and Reynolds can dominate down low. If this was at home I'd expect a somewhat easy double digit win. On the road in what is the biggest game of the regular season for the Bearcats? makes it more interesting.
I think the key to defending a team like UC is to change up the defense a lot so that they can't get comfortable in their offensive sets. They are bad enough on the offensive side of the ball when they are comfortable. Making them think should make them only that much worse.

[xufan2434]

The key for Xavier is to keep UC off of the offensive glass and hope that a poor shooting team doesn't get hot from the three.

I'm just going to go ahead and assume that UC will have their best 3 point shooting night of the year

[xu82]

I'm just going to go ahead and assume that UC will have their best 3 point shooting night of the year

We often have that effect on teams. Hopefully it's a thing of the past...

[Masterofreality]

I'm just going to go ahead and assume that UC will have their best 3 point shooting night of the year

Well, that means that they would have to shoot better than 64.3% that they shot vs Temple at home earlier this year.

[GIMMFD]

Well, that means that they would have to shoot better than 64.3% that they shot vs Temple at home earlier this year.

Still wouldn't be surprised.

[Xavier_Musketeers]

I need to see the St. John's game before we play UC. If we can enter the Shootout on a three game win streak and play the way we have been, then I think we have a pretty good shot of beating UC. Also, we outscore UC by 14 points, but we allow 13 more points than them. Should be a fun game to watch

[Cataclysmo]

I'm just going to go ahead and assume that UC will have their best 3 point shooting night of the year

Didn't Xavier shoot something like 67% from three last year?

[Xavier]

Didn't Xavier shoot something like 67% from three last year?

Wouldn't have mattered. Xavier was just way better last year.

[UncleWoodysWang]

Wouldn't have mattered. Xavier was just way better last year.

We were in the play in game. They got a 5 seed. This statement could not be more incorrect.

[markchal]

We were in the play in game. They got a 5 seed. This statement could not be more incorrect.

Except in that game, where it was completely correct.

[xufan2434]

We were in the play in game. They got a 5 seed. This statement could not be more incorrect.

What do you mean "we".. Get a better username

X was a lot better than UC at that point last year. UC had a terrible run of games in December. Things flipped after that. Anyway, no that statement was not incorrect if we're talking just about that game.

[waggy]

Might have been Justin Martin's career game.

[Backyard Champ]

We were in the play in game. They got a 5 seed. This statement could not be more incorrect.

Horrible conference earned them that. When they played the Big East they got destroyed. Pretty simple. There is a reason the Big East, and really any major conference, doesn't want UC.

[Milhouse]

I find it funny that UC fans continue to forget this: WE were invited to the Big East. YOU were kicked out of it.

Also they were a 5 seed that got dominated by Harvard and a 12 seed. Mick Cronin "That's not an upset"

Yes Mick, yes it was.

[Xavier]

Mick being able to tell recruits he will get to play a Big East team once a year is beyond huge for UC recruiting.

[xeus]

Is Bobby Brannen still caught up in the Australian porn industry, making bi-curious films as Dave the Carpenter?

[LA Muskie]

Horrible conference earned them that. When they played the Big East they got destroyed. Pretty simple. There is a reason the Big East, and really any major conference, doesn't want UC.

Dude, basketball is at the bottom of the conversation for any of the Big 5 conferences. Whether it's UC or just about anyone else. There is football and then there is everything else. And only football is discussed.

[LA Muskie]

I find it funny that UC fans continue to forget this: WE were invited to the Big East. YOU were kicked out of it.

Also they were a 5 seed that got dominated by Harvard and a 12 seed. Mick Cronin "That's not an upset"

Yes Mick, yes it was.

Not really a fair characterization of what happened. But if that makes you feel superior to UC then more power to ya. They'll probably be a Big 12 school pretty soon.

[Xavier]

LA muskie, don't think you realize some Xavier fans are trolling the UC fans who came to troll on a Xavier board..

[xeus]

Does anyone know why Ruben Patterson is no longer on the Hamilton County sex offender registry?

[RealDeal]

This is a good scouting clip on UC:

http://youtu.be/Vkc_3HlMb5g

[paulxu]

I'm blocked from reading the Enquirer on line.
But somebody wrote an article about shock, awe and brawls..rating the Crosstown Shootouts.

What the hell was that all about?

[LA Muskie]

LA muskie, don't think you realize some Xavier fans are trolling the UC fans who came to troll on a Xavier board..

Ah... That makes sense. I'm tone deaf to that stuff apparently.

[bleedXblue]

This is a good scouting clip on UC:

http://youtu.be/Vkc_3HlMb5g

Lenny was on Mo Egger yesterday I think. Great to hear him recount his time at X and the shot. The story of Jeff Battle telling him to just go get the f'ing ball was classic.