Moving Back of Three Point Line

[drudy23]

Does anyone remember the thread about the impact of moving back the line (I'm sure it's here, I just don't know how to search it)? Has anyone seen any updated stats on how this change has impacted the game? Just curious what side of the argument the stats favor after a few years.

[xubrew]

That sounds like a question for Ken Pomeroy.

[American X]

That sounds like a question for XUFan09

Fixed that for you.

[paulxu]

Stats and graph.

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/67879480/its-time-for-the-ncaa-to-move-the-three-point-line-again

[Kahns Krazy]

I'm not sure why there isn't a 4 point line at like 30 feet. I think that would be some exciting stuff, and a 1 point line inside the no-charge line.

[XUFan09]

Fixed that for you.

Haha I'm flattered.

Just a glance at the graph in Paul's link shows that there was an immediate drop-off from seasons in the new millenium, while the 08-09 season and seasons after were on par with seasons in the 90s. Historically that matters. Guys born around the time when the NBA three-point line was instituted (79-80 season) were little kids by the time it was no longer seen as gimmicky and about college age at the turn of the millenium when three-point percentages started going up. The three-point shot was part of the culture growing up for these guys, moreso than previous players. Still, a decent number of them were borderline three-point shooters. Some guys that I read had theorized that those were the kind of shooters who would be eliminated by the extension of the line by a foot.

Now, half a percentage point across all D1 players is a significant difference, but it's not huge either. I wonder if three-point percentages didn't drop as much as some thought they would because that theory was right, that those borderline shooters limited their outside attempts or stopped shooting from behind the arc altogether. Since good shooters generally didn't see a drop in shooting percentage, most of the percentage drop could be due to a new crop of borderline shooters, the kind that were fine from 19'9" but not as good from 20'9". That would be hard data to collect. You would have to identify the borderline shooters who were there before and after the switch and then compare their 3FG attempts from before and after.

[paulxu]

I don't think Pistol Pete would have given two sh$ts where the line was.

[XUFan09]

I don't think Pistol Pete would have given two sh$ts where the line was.

Nope!

[drudy23]

Now I have to remember if I thought it would make an impact or not...I think I was on the "not" end.

[xubrew]

I think we need a pi shot. A few feet behind the three point line, there should be a shot worth pi points. It would certainly make the game interesting. 3.1415926....(actually that's all I know without having to look it up.

Who's with me??

[xu82]

I don't think Pistol Pete would have given two sh$ts where the line was.

The kid from Depaul knew where it was! He ran past it, had an uncontested lay up, turned around and went back behind it. Damn, I wish he'd missed that! Serve him right! One of the crazier things I've seen, at least this year.

[xu82]

I'm a big fan of blueberry pi. And my wife has won some apple pi contests.

[Mack Attack]

I'm not sure why there isn't a 4 point line at like 30 feet. I think that would be some exciting stuff, and a 1 point line inside the no-charge line.

I like the idea of a 4 point line, but a 1 point line is a horrible idea. It would discourage dunks and there would be all sorts of stoppages to see if a basket was a 1 or a 2

[paulxu]

I also am a fan of pie....

[Kahns Krazy]

I like the idea of a 4 point line, but a 1 point line is a horrible idea. It would discourage dunks and there would be all sorts of stoppages to see if a basket was a 1 or a 2

It would only discourage standing dunks. You could still take off from behind the line and dunk. Along those lines, there should be a 3 point dunk line that would encourage more massive alley-oops.

And a shot with a foot on the existing 3 point line should be worth 2.5. At the end of the game, all shots taken and made should be fed through a regression analysis to determine any adjustment factors and the whole game should be re-scored at that time. In close games, you wouldn't know who won or lost for several minutes.

Jumping off one foot is an extra .25 points at all times.