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94GRAD
01-25-2015, 01:14 AM
In case no one noticed

Masterofreality
01-25-2015, 08:09 AM
In case no one noticed

What? Is that what Pierce's result was at Dana's pre-game yesterday?:biggrin:

Xville
01-25-2015, 09:15 AM
Not a huge fan of Dee's but that was one heck of a game from him yesterday. Very very impressive. Hopefully this Kickstarts him and the rest of the team into a winning streak. I feel it coming!

xavierj
01-25-2015, 09:52 AM
Dee is what he is. He will make great plays, force some things and gives it all he has. He is not a good shooter and that hurts the team he is also small which hurts Xavier against bigger guards, especially in a zone where they can shoot over him. I think a major problem for this team is that Dee is all they have at the point and no one can come in and change things up. I fully expect teams to continue to lay off him on the road, taking away his penetration and hurting Xavier's chances of road victories.

xuwin
01-25-2015, 10:05 AM
Dee is what he is. He will make great plays, force some things and gives it all he has. He is not a good shooter and that hurts the team he is also small which hurts Xavier against bigger guards, especially in a zone where they can shoot over him. I think a major problem for this team is that Dee is all they have at the point and no one can come in and change things up. I fully expect teams to continue to lay off him on the road, taking away his penetration and hurting Xavier's chances of road victories.

I think the smart move for opponents would actually be to deny Dee the ball because he is the only player on the team that has shown that he can facilitate the offense. When he is out of the game the ball typically stays on the perimeter and seldom goes inside. Who else has shown the ability to feed Matt inside like Dee.

Juice
01-25-2015, 10:14 AM
Not a huge fan of Dee's but that was one heck of a game from him yesterday. Very very impressive. Hopefully this Kickstarts him and the rest of the team into a winning streak. I feel it coming!

Kid is 2nd in the conference in assists, sixth in steals, and fourth in assist to turnover ratio. What does it take to be a fan?

pimpinthebox
01-25-2015, 11:15 AM
Like him or not (and I happen to like him just fine), we are "stuck" with Dee Davis as the PG and a leader for this team for the rest of the season. As he goes, we go. The good thing about that is, when he plays well, we typically win. Bottom line, we need him to play well more than any other player in order for X to get where we want them to be this season.

xu82
01-25-2015, 11:26 AM
There were at least a couple occassions yesterday where Dee did his well known "dribble into the trees alone" move. Rather than force up a desperate shot (and risk getting a second black eye when it was rejected), he remained calm and brought the ball back out to set things up. When that goes badly, it's the same as a turnover. He handled that well. I was impressed with his progress and hope that continues.

RealDeal
01-25-2015, 12:02 PM
I have a feeling that we are getting better pg play this year than we will next year. Hope I'm wrong.

Masterofreality
01-25-2015, 01:27 PM
Kid is 2nd in the conference in assists, sixth in steals, and fourth in assist to turnover ratio. What does it take to be a fan?

Really. Criticism of him is Mo Macafee-esque.

American X
01-25-2015, 01:38 PM
There were at least a couple occassions yesterday where Dee did his well known "dribble into the trees alone" move. Rather than force up a desperate shot (and risk getting a second black eye when it was rejected), he remained calm and brought the ball back out to set things up. When that goes badly, it's the same as a turnover. He handled that well. I was impressed with his progress and hope that continues.

I did notice when Dee refrained from his patented one-on-three shot. Solid game by the point guard from Bloomington. Good things happen in games and in seasons when senior guards play well.



Really. Criticism of him is Mo Macafee-esque.

Poor Mo McAfee is getting beat up around here the past few days.

XU 87
01-25-2015, 01:54 PM
Pre-season, I had my criticisms of Dee, but I think he's played pretty well this year. And the team is much better when he's in the game.

Mo Mcafee- he couldn't throw the ball in the ocean his senior year. He shot 37% from the field and 27% from the three. His scoring went from 15 ppg his junior year to 9.5 ppg his senior year.

Masterofreality
01-25-2015, 02:05 PM
Poor Mo McAfee is getting beat up around here the past few days.

I'm not beating him up, but just pointing out how past Messageboards were horrible to Mo and, at times to Gary Lumpkin. In Gary's Senior year, there were many on the old Voy Boards and on Moose's Board that were wanting to ride GLump out of town on a rail.

PG is a tough spot, if you want to be loved on Social Media. There is no place to hide.

EastCoastXman
01-25-2015, 02:15 PM
Dee does make the offense go and no one else seems to be capable at this point. He advances the ball from foul line to foul line better than anyone on the team creating easy baskets. His probing of the lane is essential to taking the pressure off him at the top otherwise defenders will just pressure him at the point. He does need to make better decisions once in the lane and avoid the circus type shots.

Other teams also love to run the high ball screen with a big and create a mismatch with Dee in low. DePaul did that a lot with Myke Henry in 2nd half. Dee and Stain, Jimmy or Jalen too willing to switch. Dee needs to fight through these screens with help from our big to avoid these situations.

I hope they can get that first Road W in DC this week. I will be at The Rock for SHU.

D-West & PO-Z
01-25-2015, 03:03 PM
Kid is 2nd in the conference in assists, sixth in steals, and fourth in assist to turnover ratio. What does it take to be a fan?

Seriously. Unbelievable.

xu 89
01-25-2015, 07:01 PM
Love him.....end of story

JEHARDI
01-25-2015, 09:11 PM
Kid is 2nd in the conference in assists, sixth in steals, and fourth in assist to turnover ratio. What does it take to be a fan?

Well said but why let the facts get in the way!

Thor in 204
01-25-2015, 09:49 PM
Dee's a warrior. We will see him play even harder and smarter as his senior year progresses. He carries his part well in terms of embodying toughness on offense and defense that we have been wanting to see more of on this team. As the rest of the team steps up their games, which may be happening if the second half of the Providence game and the second half of the DePaul game is any indication, he will be able to play to his strengths better. Throughout his career at X he has often been in position of having to try to overextend his game.

American X
01-26-2015, 09:18 AM
I'm not beating him up, but just pointing out how past Messageboards were horrible to Mo and, at times to Gary Lumpkin. In Gary's Senior year, there were many on the old Voy Boards and on Moose's Board that were wanting to ride GLump out of town on a rail.

PG is a tough spot, if you want to be loved on Social Media. There is no place to hide.

'Moose', R.I.P., in his fandom wanted every player, coach, and administrator run out of town on a rail and the program disbanded because everything was so awful.

mistabeecee41
01-26-2015, 10:00 AM
I've said it before - we've been absolutely spoiled with PG play over the past 7 years. Dee just happened to be in the unlucky situation of having to deal with our ridiculous expectations after we've had Drew Lavender, Tu Holloway and Semaj Christon playing PG from 2007-2013.

He's been frustrating, and he's clearly not as talented as those guys. As much shit as I've given him, he has been nothing but solid in his senior year. With that being said... get your 3 pt % back into the mid 30s Mr. Davis.

markchal
01-26-2015, 10:05 AM
I've said it before - we've been absolutely spoiled with PG play over the past 7 years. Dee just happened to be in the unlucky situation of having to deal with our ridiculous expectations after we've had Drew Lavender, Tu Holloway and Semaj Christon playing PG from 2007-2013.

He's been frustrating, and he's clearly not as talented as those guys. As much shit as I've given him, he has been nothing but solid in his senior year. With that being said... get your 3 pt % back into the mid 30s Mr. Davis.

This is a really good point. I think Dee hasn't really progressed as much as many expected but his biggest flaw is that he's not Tu. He's been a consistent, steady player for us this year, and he's been forced to play a ton of minutes.

Juice
01-26-2015, 01:42 PM
I've said it before - we've been absolutely spoiled with PG play over the past 7 years. Dee just happened to be in the unlucky situation of having to deal with our ridiculous expectations after we've had Drew Lavender, Tu Holloway and Semaj Christon playing PG from 2007-2013.

He's been frustrating, and he's clearly not as talented as those guys. As much shit as I've given him, he has been nothing but solid in his senior year. With that being said... get your 3 pt % back into the mid 30s Mr. Davis.

Yeah but why should Dee get crap talked about him when our fans are the morons who set unreasonable expectations and fail to realize that we have a good (at the very least an above average) point guard?

Xville
01-26-2015, 02:06 PM
Kid is 2nd in the conference in assists, sixth in steals, and fourth in assist to turnover ratio. What does it take to be a fan?

I'm just going to point out how misleading stats can sometimes be...Brandon Randolph has a better assist to turnover ratio than Dee Davis right now.

I have come to accept the fact that Dee is who he is and that he is a really good point guard when he plays within his game. The effort with him is definitely there, and something i am never going to question with him...I really like his mentality.

PMI
01-26-2015, 02:58 PM
I'm just going to point out how misleading stats can sometimes be...Brandon Randolph has a better assist to turnover ratio than Dee Davis right now.

I have come to accept the fact that Dee is who he is and that he is a really good point guard when he plays within his game. The effort with him is definitely there, and something i am never going to question with him...I really like his mentality.

I don't think Dee's assist to turnover is all that misleading considering the amount of minutes he plays. Stats aren't everything, but Dee is a player with a pretty appropriate sample size, unlike Randolph.

XU-PA
01-26-2015, 06:38 PM
Love him.....end of story

Public reps too, absolute truth! Smallest man on the court, big heart, a true warrior

Cheesehead
01-27-2015, 01:03 PM
Pre-season, I had my criticisms of Dee, but I think he's played pretty well this year. And the team is much better when he's in the game.

Mo Mcafee- he couldn't throw the ball in the ocean his senior year. He shot 37% from the field and 27% from the three. His scoring went from 15 ppg his junior year to 9.5 ppg his senior year.

Lumpkinitis?

bobbiemcgee
02-11-2015, 10:07 PM
Top 10 in assists:

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/basketball-men/d1

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/basketball-men/d1/current/individual/605

Xavier
02-11-2015, 10:30 PM
I'm just going to point out how misleading stats can sometimes be...Brandon Randolph has a better assist to turnover ratio than Dee Davis right now.

I have come to accept the fact that Dee is who he is and that he is a really good point guard when he plays within his game. The effort with him is definitely there, and something i am never going to question with him...I really like his mentality.

That's like saying "stats are misleading because (insert walk on) is shooting 100%" while leaving out he has only shot one time.

drudy23
02-11-2015, 10:31 PM
Dee has finally started to realize he can have impact with scoring. Run the show, take care of the ball, find your scorers. THAT's what this team needs, not him throwing up 15 shots a game (when 6 of them have no chance of going in).

In THIS role, he will be successful, and so will our team.

XUFan09
02-12-2015, 12:26 AM
Top 10 in assists:

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/basketball-men/d1

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/basketball-men/d1/current/individual/605

Some people will still say, "Stats aren't everything," without offering an actual statistical critique in this specific circumstance. Even if Dee's assist total and assist-to-turnover ratio are inflated, there's only so much they can be inflated before you have to acknowledge them.

xuwin
02-12-2015, 10:56 AM
Top 10 in assists:

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/basketball-men/d1

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/basketball-men/d1/current/individual/605

Xavier is also ranked 9th in D1 in team Assists/game (17.1) which is even more impressive especially considering the number of freshmen and sophomores that play a key roll in our offense.