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X-Fan
01-24-2015, 01:48 PM
our 3 point shooting has been atrocious lately
Terrible. Shots aren't even close. I don't get it.

Xville
01-24-2015, 01:48 PM
Bluiett...this is the guy I expected...hope he can continue like this the rest of the season. We need him to be like this on the road to get some wins

D-West & PO-Z
01-24-2015, 01:48 PM
For the 3rd time, who did Dee throw down with?

I don't think it happened in game. Maybe practice? I don't remeber it happening in last game.

Masterofreality
01-24-2015, 01:49 PM
It's not completely x's and o's...alot of it is heart and taking defense personally. No defense works without intensity and a bulldog mentality.

Wanna see "bulldog mentality" & heart? Picture of Dee Davis with a big shiner under his eye and guarding a guy 6 inches taller than him in the post.

xu82
01-24-2015, 01:49 PM
I think XU has done a great job attacking. This is our second straight game where we were in the bonus with 12+ minutes left in the game.

Now, if we could make some FT's...

drudy23
01-24-2015, 01:49 PM
Wanna see "bulldog mentality" & heart? Picture of Dee Davis with a big shiner under his eye and guarding a guy 6 inches taller than him in the post.

Agreed...but it has to be the whole team that's CONSISTENT with it. Top 25 team when we bring it...very average when we don't.

profson
01-24-2015, 01:49 PM
For the 3rd time, who did Dee throw down with?

No big thing. Inadvertent contact toward end of Providence game.

waggy
01-24-2015, 01:50 PM
For the 3rd time, who did Dee throw down with?


It was the offensive foul by Ladonte Henton that didn't get called and was the difference in the game and what Mack went ballistic over.

GoMuskies
01-24-2015, 01:50 PM
Has Jimmy Farr played in the second half?

D-West & PO-Z
01-24-2015, 01:50 PM
Awesome look by Myles there.

LadyMuskie
01-24-2015, 01:51 PM
Please tell me we're still winning!

D-West & PO-Z
01-24-2015, 01:51 PM
Now, if we could make some FT's...

True that.

drudy23
01-24-2015, 01:51 PM
Has Jimmy Farr played in the second half?

Thankfully no.

D-West & PO-Z
01-24-2015, 01:52 PM
Please tell me we're still winning!

Up 6

Masterofreality
01-24-2015, 01:52 PM
Please tell me we're still winning!

75-69 X 6:33 to go

xu82
01-24-2015, 01:52 PM
The turnovers are great!

BMoreX
01-24-2015, 01:52 PM
That was one of the best defensive series I've seen all season

BandAid
01-24-2015, 01:53 PM
Has Jimmy Farr played in the second half?

nope. it's a trend

Masterofreality
01-24-2015, 01:53 PM
There is a Wally Rutecki call right there.

profson
01-24-2015, 01:54 PM
Has Jimmy Farr played in the second half?

No, nor should he. Last guy to chase their bigs to the 3 point line. There is a reason we went small.

D-West & PO-Z
01-24-2015, 01:55 PM
Dee getting the call on the hustle.

xavierj
01-24-2015, 01:55 PM
Xavier is 24 of 32 from inside arc, 3 of 16 outside. Someone on the coaching staff needs to let them know that and stop jacking threes.

Xville
01-24-2015, 01:55 PM
We are going to get a win here. I hope the team realizes now that they can't have a bad half on the road like they can at home and still win. Hopefully the light has turned on because we need to win one of the next two road games.

waggy
01-24-2015, 01:55 PM
Well X benefitted from a bad call there.

Masterofreality
01-24-2015, 01:55 PM
For Lady-

X 78 DePaul 70 4:41 to go

xu82
01-24-2015, 01:56 PM
80-70 with 4 minutes left!

drudy23
01-24-2015, 01:57 PM
Unreal the roller coaster this team is...even a little consistency has them contenders for this league.

GoMuskies
01-24-2015, 01:57 PM
20 second half points for DePaul. 19 without that bullshit FT to start the half.

BandAid
01-24-2015, 01:57 PM
Dee getting the call on the hustle.

Yup, bad call. I'll take it though

D-West & PO-Z
01-24-2015, 01:57 PM
DePaul is not better than us!

BMoreX
01-24-2015, 01:57 PM
Defense has been nice last 5 mins.

D-West & PO-Z
01-24-2015, 01:58 PM
Yup, bad call. I'll take it though

Yeah I thought so too but liked the hustle.

Masterofreality
01-24-2015, 01:58 PM
Now THAT was GREAT defense by Tre. Stayed low with knees bent, kept Garrett in front of him and forced the turnover and the hoop by Myles.

That's it TRE!!!!!

LadyMuskie
01-24-2015, 01:58 PM
thanks!

BMoreX
01-24-2015, 01:59 PM
Points in paint 46-20.

xu82
01-24-2015, 01:59 PM
Yup, bad call. I'll take it though

Yep, they go both ways. We need to remember that at times...

D-West & PO-Z
01-24-2015, 02:00 PM
Points in paint 46-20.

Love that stat and there was no way that DePaul was going to beat us if we scored in the paint that well. They weren't going to keep shooting like that from 3.

drudy23
01-24-2015, 02:01 PM
Bad foul by Stain...concede the layup at that point.

BandAid
01-24-2015, 02:02 PM
Stain uber driving the lane!

Masterofreality
01-24-2015, 02:03 PM
ANOTHER Rutecki A10 call. Horriffic

Xville
01-24-2015, 02:04 PM
Great second half by xavier..career games from myles and treatment love that!..now can they bring that on the road for a full 40 minutes? They have the ability they just need to do it!! Beat Gtown!

D-West & PO-Z
01-24-2015, 02:05 PM
Anyone know what DePaul is shooting from 3 in the second half?

BMoreX
01-24-2015, 02:05 PM
11 of 19 from 3 in the 1st, 2 of 12 in the 2nd.

XUFan09
01-24-2015, 02:06 PM
Anyone know what DePaul is shooting from 3 in the second half?
2-12

Masterofreality
01-24-2015, 02:06 PM
Anyone know what DePaul is shooting from 3 in the second half?

2-12. Remember that they played 36 hours ago too on the road. Legs......gone.

drudy23
01-24-2015, 02:06 PM
We pretty much did everything right in the second half.

D-West & PO-Z
01-24-2015, 02:07 PM
2-13 he just said.

Masterofreality
01-24-2015, 02:07 PM
What was the line? Hmmmmm

GoMuskies
01-24-2015, 02:07 PM
Covered!

D-West & PO-Z
01-24-2015, 02:08 PM
Thanks guys. It was pretty obvious they couldn't shoot like that in the second half. What did the final spread end up? Did we cover with 13? Love it.

Masterofreality
01-24-2015, 02:08 PM
Val Ackerman in the house.

D-West & PO-Z
01-24-2015, 02:08 PM
Ha. Awesome Go!

BMoreX
01-24-2015, 02:09 PM
25 POINTS FROM MYLES! With only 1 three!

X Factor
01-24-2015, 02:09 PM
Dee - 8 assists 0 turnovers

Team - 5 turnovers

Gotta like that...

Xville
01-24-2015, 02:09 PM
Great second half...completely different team after half time...that's the xavier team I want to see the rest of the season..better defense, aggressive to the hoop..Rebounding etc. Let's bring this shit on the road now!

Masterofreality
01-24-2015, 02:09 PM
Covered!

Amazing how good the wise guys are.

DC Muskie
01-24-2015, 02:10 PM
Good win. Glad we are back being better than DePaul.

D-West & PO-Z
01-24-2015, 02:10 PM
Again can we put to rest that we are better than DePaul????

BMoreX
01-24-2015, 02:10 PM
If this team ever figured it out and brought it for 2 full halves, offensively and defensively...

bleedXblue
01-24-2015, 02:10 PM
Will this team ever play well for two consecutive halves? Glad we came back. We must win one of the next two on the road to get something going.

X Factor
01-24-2015, 02:11 PM
Amazing how good the wise guys are.

Don't think they thought Xavier would outscore DePaul by 19 in the second to cover though. But hey, they still picked it pretty good one way or another.

D-West & PO-Z
01-24-2015, 02:11 PM
Good win. Glad we are back being better than DePaul.

Ha beat me to it.

X Factor
01-24-2015, 02:12 PM
DePaul only scored 26 points in the second half. That's a victory.

xudash
01-24-2015, 02:13 PM
I'm waiting to read about all the Mack and team complaints now, following what I regard to be a "character" win.

Nope, the season isn't over yet.

RealDeal
01-24-2015, 02:14 PM
And the season will continue.

xu82
01-24-2015, 02:15 PM
DePaul made a 3 in the corner by banking it off the top corner of the backboard with shit clock running out. They won't shoot that well in the second half. XU is going to win this game.

What kind of crazy talk is that?

(You had some doubters.)

LA Muskie
01-24-2015, 02:15 PM
Again can we put to rest that we are better than DePaul????

Why don't we just worry about taking care of our business. We still split the series and they're still one game up on us in conference. We have more talent. When we play like that 2nd half we're better than just about any team in the conference. Play like we did in the 1st half and I'm not sure we're better than anyone.

muskiefan82
01-24-2015, 02:15 PM
if only we could bottle the second half team this year and play them for an entire game.

Masterofreality
01-24-2015, 02:16 PM
Don't think they thought Xavier would outscore DePaul by 19 in the second to cover though. But hey, they still picked it pretty good one way or another.

I don't they "think" anything. They just know. Would have been interested to see what the first half line was though.

X-Fan
01-24-2015, 02:17 PM
That was unbelievable. Never seen a guy pass up a layup for a 3. He's either a stone cold killer or a moron. It worked out, but more of that could be what gets X back in this game.

As bad as X's D has been, DePaul cannot miss. Literally.

X is battling. Turn on the D, make some shots and DePaul is bound to go cold. They have to miss some, right?
Like I said. X was battling. DePaul was litterally hitting everything they took. Honestly, if they did the same in the 2nd half, you tip your hat and say good job.

HUGE win. Gotta hold serve at home until we figure it out on the road. Guys are trying. Once they get it going, watch out.

With those ripping Mack, he did a great job keeping the guys in the game. Also, the lineups in the 2nd half were great. Hope we continue to see Brandon in stretches. Love Myles game. Hope he gets it going again from 3 soon.

Beat the Hoyas!

Xville
01-24-2015, 02:17 PM
I hope we can bring this on the road...consistency for 40 minutes is the key....glad we came out like that in the second half...great games from myles, dee, tre and stain. Reynolds needs to be more consistent from game to game but you could say that about pretty much everyone on the team. Bring this second half on the road! Let's go get Gtown and sweep the series

xu82
01-24-2015, 02:17 PM
It's been a good afternoon so far.... a sweet come back and I may have just picked up some Masters tickets!

LA Muskie
01-24-2015, 02:17 PM
I'm waiting to read about all the Mack and team complaints now, following what I regard to be a "character" win.

Nope, the season isn't over yet.

Happy for the win. Thrilled since this was a must-win. The 2nd half performance doesn't really erase the first though. To be the team we have the potential to be, we still need to put 40 minutes together. Not sure we've done that this season save, perhaps, the Georgetown game.

Masterofreality
01-24-2015, 02:17 PM
Why don't we just worry about taking care of our business. When we play like that 2nd half we're better than just about any team in the conference. Play like we did in the 1st half and I'm not sure we're better than anyone.

And this is why I just can't go with any expectations. Every game is a riddle wrapped in a mystery wrapped in an enigma.

LA Muskie
01-24-2015, 02:19 PM
Like I said. X was battling. DePaul was litterally hitting everything they took. Honestly, if they did the same in the 2nd half, you tip your hat and say good job.

HUGE win. Gotta hold serve at home until we figure it out on the road. Guys are trying. Once they get it going, watch out.

With those ripping Mack, he did a great job keeping the guys in the game. Also, the lineups in the 2nd half were great. Hope we continue to see Brandon in stretches. Love Myles game. Hope he gets it going again from 3 soon.

Beat the Hoyas!

Our 1st half defense was ATROCIOUS. That will contribute mightily to those shooting percentages. Sure they made an unlikely bank 3, but the vast majority of their 1st half FGs were very clean looks. Like Mack has said before, their kids have scholarships too.

BMoreX
01-24-2015, 02:20 PM
Myles with 25 and only one three pointer. Never thought I'd see the day. Just a really good comeback. DePaul was only 2-13 from behind the arc after that white hot 1st half. I saw some really good defense at times in the 2nd half from Xavier. I can't imagine how good this team could bring if they ever brought it in both halves.

D-West & PO-Z
01-24-2015, 02:23 PM
[QUOTE=LA Muskie;481059]Happy for the win. Thrilled since this was a must-win. The 2nd half performance doesn't really erase the first though. To be the team we have the potential to be, we still need to put 40 minutes together. Not sure we've done that this season save, perhaps, the Georgetown game.[/QUOTE.

D-West & PO-Z
01-24-2015, 02:23 PM
What kind of crazy talk is that?

(You had some doubters.)

Ha yes I did. I like to think positive though.

xu82
01-24-2015, 02:25 PM
Myles with 25 and only one three pointer.

Wow, I just watched the game and I wouldn't have guessed either of those things.

Masterofreality
01-24-2015, 02:25 PM
You need to listen to Joe and Byron on IHeart radio. Byron tells it like it is and Joe is outstanding. Synch it up with TV.

Honestly Go. You do need to get the IHeart Radio app and listen to By and Joe. Byron pulls no punches and will call for some different stuff to be called for - like zone occasionally. Joe calls play by play as good as anybody out there. Not just saying that cause they're Xavier grads either.

xudash
01-24-2015, 02:26 PM
Myles with 25 and only one three pointer. Never thought I'd see the day. Just a really good comeback. DePaul was only 2-13 from behind the arc after that white hot 1st half. I saw some really good defense at times in the 2nd half from Xavier. I can't imagine how good this team could bring if they ever brought it in both halves.

The coach can tell them that until he's blue in the face. At some point, they have to learn that is the case. I don't like that they're beginning to learn that late in January, but perhaps they're beginning to get it.

Poor defense, unconscious shooting, whatever, they showed a lot to fight back and win today.

XU Cowbell Kid
01-24-2015, 02:26 PM
Does anyone want to dispute that depaul is a better basketball team than us now? Xavier is a mediocre basketball team and Mack should be absolutely ashamed of himself as well as everyone on this team.

I do.

Masterofreality
01-24-2015, 02:30 PM
Lots of highlights, but the best to me was Tre's defense stand against Garrett. He got low with knees bent. He moved with Garrett, kept him in front and made him turn it over. THAT bodes well for the future to me. He can do this D thing, but he has to stay focused for 35 seconds of the clock.

xu82
01-24-2015, 02:31 PM
I do.

I'll second that.

D-West & PO-Z
01-24-2015, 02:32 PM
I'll second that.

Be careful LA might get exhausted with you. He doesn't like being wrong.

Or at least hear about it when he is.

xu82
01-24-2015, 02:33 PM
Lots of highlights, but the best to me was Tre's defense stand against Garrett. He got low with knees bent. He moved with Garrett, kept him in front and made him turn it over. THAT bodes well for the future to me. He can do this D thing, but he has to stay focused for 35 seconds of the clock.

The second half turnovers were huge. Some were just sloppy, but some were forced and it was a beautiful thing!

GoMuskies
01-24-2015, 02:33 PM
The second half was just as awesome as the first half was miserable.

LA Muskie
01-24-2015, 02:35 PM
Be careful LA might get exhausted with you. He doesn't like being wrong.

Or at least hear about it when he is.

Hey I want it to be true as much as anyone.

smileyy
01-24-2015, 02:41 PM
Sophomores Myles Davis, Remy Abell and Jalen Reynolds and freshmen JP Macura and Trevon Bluiett make me really happy for the future.

BMoreX
01-24-2015, 02:42 PM
Sophomores Myles Davis, Remy Abell and Jalen Reynolds and freshmen JP Macura and Trevon Bluiett make me really happy for the future.

Remy is a junior...senior next year.

smileyy
01-24-2015, 02:43 PM
Whoops. Thanks for the correction. Must be the fact that he's a wing who transferred from Indiana that made me think he's a sophomore.

Xavgrad08
01-24-2015, 02:48 PM
I was really happy with the mental toughness Xavier showed in the second half. Coming off a tough loss to Providence I was not sure what to expect. We looked bad in the first half, but settled down in the second. Blueitt did a nice job cutting to the basket without the ball and Stainbrook had a really nice second half. Kudos to our guys for continuing to battle. We need to find a way to play a good game from start to finish. Big game at Georgetown.

JTG
01-24-2015, 02:51 PM
Watching the 1st half, I figured DP had to cool off and they were piling up fouls try to guard our inside game. Both came back to haunt them, the shooting cooled way off and they got in foul trouble. Reynolds seems like a loose cannon that could get himself thrown out of a game. Like Bluiett's resurgence and the fact Macura takes shit from no one. JP is the type that gets under the other teams skin. All in all a great comeback.

BMoreX
01-24-2015, 02:58 PM
Rick Broering ‏@musketeerreport 3m3 minutes ago

After making the media wait for like 20 min, Mack comes in and says I wanted to imitate my team and not show up on time today.

Masterofreality
01-24-2015, 03:03 PM
I think that Wally Rutecki must have forgotten that he had a Big East game today, as opposed to the A10, MAAC or NEC, the other 3 leagues that he primarily officiates in.

LA Muskie
01-24-2015, 03:06 PM
Rick Broering ‏@musketeerreport 3m3 minutes ago

After making the media wait for like 20 min, Mack comes in and says I wanted to imitate my team and not show up on time today.

Ha! That's pretty damn funny actually. Gotta give it to Mack, he has a sense of humor and seems to keep things in perspective.

LA Muskie
01-24-2015, 03:07 PM
I think that Wally Rutecki must have forgotten that he had a Big East game today, as opposed to the A10, MAAC or NEC, the other 3 leagues that he primarily officiates in.

Not sure we can complain much about him and his crew. By my count we net benefitted from bad calls.

sirthought
01-24-2015, 03:24 PM
I missed the first half. Glad to have seen a fighting team in the second half.

Still wishing Reynolds was a bit more reliable. As long as Stainbrook stays out of foul trouble we'll have more scoring options around the whole floor.

Fun game! Go X!

Masterofreality
01-24-2015, 03:24 PM
Not sure we can complain much about him and his crew. By my count we net benefitted from bad calls.

I can complain about Rutecki. He's a hack.

Doug Shows is a big time ref who only refs top 5 Conference games. He was the chief. Tony Chiazza is young, but primarily does Big East and Big South games. he's not bad.

Rutecki belongs back in the A10 and MAAC...period. No less than Byron called him out during the game..not by name, but I knew who By was talking about. BLark Said : "We haven't seen that one ref for a while, but he's terrible."

LA Muskie
01-24-2015, 03:30 PM
You certainly CAN complain. I just don't think you SHOULD because we mostly benefited from his crappy calls today.

Masterofreality
01-24-2015, 03:33 PM
You certainly CAN complain. I just don't think you SHOULD because we mostly benefited from his crappy calls today.

Not so much from Rutecki.

xubrew
01-24-2015, 03:36 PM
Referees are technically independent contractors. They really don't work for a conference other than that they are hired by the leagues on a game by game basis. And most conference coordinators of officiating care more about price and availability than how good a referee actually is. I think it's a problem throughout all of college sports, not just basketball. They're just aren't enough good refs, and the ones that are good don't want to do it.

LA Muskie
01-24-2015, 03:36 PM
Not so much from Rutecki.

OK, I'll take your word for it. I wasn't concentrating as much on who was making bad calls, just that there were plenty of them to go around.

bleedXblue
01-24-2015, 04:24 PM
DePaul got called for 13 more fouls than X did? We're really complaining about officiating?

Masterofreality
01-24-2015, 04:28 PM
DePaul got called for 13 more fouls than X did? We're really complaining about officiating?

For me, only from Rutecki...the hack.

brownlavender
01-24-2015, 04:29 PM
DePaul got called for 13 more fouls than X did? We're really complaining about officiating? thats because they shot 3s all day your not going to get fouled firing jump shots all day. We attacked the basket on drives all day. Big difference there

BMoreX
01-24-2015, 04:31 PM
DePaul got called for 13 more fouls than X did? We're really complaining about officiating?

I thought the disparity was due to:
A. Xavier sending it inside to Stainbrook, resulting in fouls
B. DePaul shooting an absurd amount of outside shots, resulting in not many fouls called.

TUclutch
01-24-2015, 04:33 PM
Good come from behind win.

Safe to say xville, mhettel, throwdownbrown and nasdadjr are among the worst posters on the site.

Xville
01-24-2015, 05:01 PM
Good come from behind win.

Safe to say xville, mhettel, throwdownbrown and nasdadjr are among the worst posters on the site.

That's real big of you to call out someone based on some comments made in the middle of a game in which the team was playing like crap. Hope that makes you feel better about yourself.

DC Muskie
01-24-2015, 05:16 PM
Good come from behind win.

Safe to say xville, mhettel, throwdownbrown and nasdadjr are among the worst posters on the site.

You must be the only fan on the planet who never complains about a game during the game.

It's emotional. Try to remember that.

Xavier
01-24-2015, 05:20 PM
I actually thought the same thing about Xville until recently. One of the few who have actually been pretty supportive of the team (pointing to the effort/fight in recent road games).

Masterofreality
01-24-2015, 05:40 PM
I have always liked the way that Dick Stockton pronounces Xavier. Always pronounces the "I".

"Zav..ee...er."

X-band '01
01-24-2015, 06:27 PM
I thought the disparity was due to:
A. Xavier sending it inside to Stainbrook, resulting in fouls
B. DePaul shooting an absurd amount of outside shots, resulting in not many fouls called.

DePaul also has Five Guys (not the restaurant) on the floor who can shoot from outside at any given moment. Other than Creighton last year, that is a very unconventional offense. It's even more frustrating to defend when DePaul shoots lights out.

OTRMUSKIE
01-24-2015, 07:12 PM
Can someone tell me why Mack took Myles out when he was hot? As soon as Myles came back in he shot an air ball. Why not wait until he cools off? Do other coaches do the same crap?

kmcrawfo
01-24-2015, 07:23 PM
I am curious how Depaul was so horrible out of conference. They are very competitive in virtually all their Big East games and have some quality athletes on the team.

RoseyMuskie
01-24-2015, 08:21 PM
I am curious how Depaul was so horrible out of conference. They are very competitive in virtually all their Big East games and have some quality athletes on the team.

Overreliance on the three point shot. Hamilton, and moreso Robinson, can be allergic to the lane. Their team lives and dies by it.

I attended the DePaul/Lehigh game and Lehigh had a strong post presence in Tim Kempton (a guy I'd love to see X poach). He out muscled their entire team. Same for Loyola Marymount. They had a player (blanking on name) who averaged about three points a game at the time. The big then went off for like fifteen.

smileyy
01-24-2015, 08:28 PM
Yeah -- they're a not-great high-variance team, which means they'll beat you when you don't want them to, and will ice that shit-cake with bad losses in the rest of their schedule.

GoMuskies
01-24-2015, 08:35 PM
I am curious how Depaul was so horrible out of conference.

Did you watch the second half? That's how.

X Factor
01-24-2015, 09:19 PM
Did you watch the second half? That's how.

Yeah don't give X any credit...

GoMuskies
01-24-2015, 09:21 PM
Yeah don't give X any credit...

Ummm, what?

Madfan
01-24-2015, 10:01 PM
For the 3rd time, who did Dee throw down with?

Henton caught him with an elbow while rebounding in over time Thursday night.

gladdenguy
01-24-2015, 10:51 PM
I'm waiting to read about all the Mack and team complaints now, following what I regard to be a "character" win.

Nope, the season isn't over yet.

It's amazing they can play a half like they did in the first half and a half like the 2nd half in the same game. That has been the story of the season. They bring it for one half and the other is abysmal. Most of that is on Mack.
This team needs to figure it out for 40 minutes to win A road game in this league.

xudash
01-24-2015, 10:57 PM
It's amazing they can play a half like they did in the first half and a half like the 2nd half in the same game. That has been the story of the season. They bring it for one half and the other is abysmal. Most of that is on Mack.
This team needs to figure it out for 40 minutes to win A road game in this league.

What would you do as a coach to convince them to play hard and focused for 40 minutes?

gladdenguy
01-24-2015, 10:57 PM
Yeah don't give X any credit...

I have to give Go his props. He constantly said Xavier was better than Depaul.

Xville
01-25-2015, 01:10 AM
I fully expect xavier to win these next two road games....it may be the bourbon talking but either way I feel a winning streak a coming

IM4X
01-25-2015, 01:16 AM
Henton caught him with an elbow while rebounding in over time Thursday night.

... And to think the guys calling that game suggested that Dee flopped on that play.

nasdadjr
01-25-2015, 02:18 AM
As a non supporter of mack I still gotta give credit where it is due. Xavier came out like a house of fire in second half. Does not change my opinion of him but it at least shows me the kids care enough to nut up for him which is something

IM4X
01-25-2015, 02:33 AM
A few thoughts after the game.

This team went from not being able to defend any outside shots or players driving in the lane in the first half to a team that stuck to players like peanut butter to bread in the second half. Also, it almost look like there were no offensive plays in the first half (just lots of players standing around) and then, boom, players were quickly cutting and creating space and showing much better ball movement on offense in the second half.

Mack might want to throw all past game tapes out and just keep replaying the 2nd half of this game for the team - and say "play like you did here with that kind of intensity throughout the entire game and we might actually win a bunch more games this year."

The two biggest concerns going forward: X continues to play poorly early in games and our best shooters continue to struggle from behind the arc (very low % made over past 5+ games).

We are supposed to have some of the best shooters in the conference. What's going on with Myles, Macura, Remy, and Trevon. I've notice a number of players rushing their shot or shooting before they set their feet. They really need to work on getting their stroke back, if the team is going to have a decent chance of winning road games against good BE teams.

But the good news is knowing X is a team that can come from behind and win. There are capable players and enough depth to be able to win the BE. This team will be dangerous when they finally figure out how to put it all together.

DC Muskie
01-25-2015, 06:33 AM
... And to think the guys calling that game suggested that Dee flopped on that play.

And to think they called two flagrant fouls on similar plays that didn't result in a black eye.

gladdenguy
01-25-2015, 09:32 AM
What would you do as a coach to convince them to play hard and focused for 40 minutes?

After 20 games with enough experience as a head coach and an assistant and knowing my players that I've built relationships with I would figure out something.

X-band '01
01-25-2015, 09:38 AM
And to think they called two flagrant fouls on similar plays that didn't result in a black eye.

Are you talking about DePaul or Providence?

muskienick
01-25-2015, 12:20 PM
It's amazing they can play a half like they did in the first half and a half like the 2nd half in the same game. That has been the story of the season. They bring it for one half and the other is abysmal. Most of that is on Mack.
This team needs to figure it out for 40 minutes to win A road game in this league.

Once again, you completely miss the point that Coach Mack tried every conceivable defense (man, 2-3 zone, and 1-3-1 zone) in the first half and absolutely nothing worked. At halftime, he changed philosophies completely by ditching the 2-post system in favor of 1-post+4-perimeter players with a concentration on offense of getting the ball to Matt and reacting accordingly to their double-teaming of Matt and extending the defense out farther with our 4 quick guys to relieve Matt from having to chase DePaul's trey-shooting bigs.

Did you notice --- a 22-point turnaround.

You'd probably complain about a unsolicited conjugal visit from Scarlett Johannsson because she wore a sheer white negligee instead of a sheer pink one.

muskienick
01-25-2015, 12:24 PM
As a non supporter of mack I still gotta give credit where it is due. Xavier came out like a house of fire in second half. Does not change my opinion of him but it at least shows me the kids care enough to nut up for him which is something

Coach Mack put those players into a completely different mindset and floor management in the second half. Yes, the kids deserve much credit for carrying out the coaching staff's plan for second half play. But Mack and his staff should get a large part of the credit as well!

paulxu
01-25-2015, 12:31 PM
You'd probably complain about a unsolicited conjugal visit from Scarlett Johannsson because she wore a sheer white negligee instead of a sheer pink one.

Wait...is this an option?

muskienick
01-25-2015, 12:34 PM
After 20 games with enough experience as a head coach and an assistant and knowing my players that I've built relationships with I would figure out something.

There are 26 player variables and 12 coaching variables in every NCAA Division 1 Men's Basketball game. Even John Wooden, with his Kentucky-esque rosters year after year lost games that UCLA was favored to win because of these differences that arise game by game and minute by minute within a game. Heck, even the venue and the effect of the fans are huge variables that affect the outcome of games. Perhaps you, GLADDENGUY, could successfully factor in these 40 variables each game after having the same amount of coaching experience as Chris Mack, but I tend to doubt it!

muskienick
01-25-2015, 12:35 PM
Wait...is this an option?

Only in my dreams! (And then it's usually Sophie Tucker instead of Scarlett!)

xudash
01-25-2015, 03:27 PM
After 20 games with enough experience as a head coach and an assistant and knowing my players that I've built relationships with I would figure out something.

You didn't answer my question. What would YOU do?

gladdenguy
01-25-2015, 06:38 PM
You didn't answer my question. What would YOU do?

Do I get paid over a million to do that? Exactly. If I wasn't successful in my workplace I had better figure out something or I would get canned.
I'm sure many would be in the same boat.

Who gives a flying f$%k what I would do with a college basketball team. Not my job.

gladdenguy
01-25-2015, 07:29 PM
Once again, you completely miss the point that Coach Mack tried every conceivable defense (man, 2-3 zone, and 1-3-1 zone) in the first half and absolutely nothing worked.

Once again, you completely miss the point. Put together two halves of basketball and win a road game.

Insert a homophobic Scarlett Johannsson analogy here:___________________________

xudash
01-25-2015, 10:42 PM
Do I get paid over a million to do that? Exactly. If I wasn't successful in my workplace I had better figure out something or I would get canned.
I'm sure many would be in the same boat.

Who gives a flying f$%k what I would do with a college basketball team. Not my job.

So, respecting that this is a message board and you have the right to post anything you want, and I'm certain you'll continue to do so regardless of what I suggest here, I can damn well assure you that many people around here don't give a flying f$%k about what you think about the man who is getting paid over a million to coach Xavier's basketball team. Constructive criticism is justifiable. Brilliant armchair, 20/20 hindsight fan commentary comes with this space, but you complain incessantly, and your responses are almost always over the top.

The fact of the matter is that Chris Mack forgets in a day what you know about basketball. Does he make mistakes? Yes, he's human. Is he aware of the problem. Yes. I'm sure he's tried and will continue to try to impress upon this team the importance of playing with intensity and focus for all 40 minutes. He used humor in his post-game press conference to acknowledge that this problem surfaced yet again in the first half on Saturday.

Some around here discuss the idea that Chris Mack is a Skip Prosser protege and that, in and of itself, equates to a major problem. I'll take the winning that this program has enjoyed, but I damn well assure you that I'll take all the goodwill and PR that Skip Prosser accrued to this University. Additionally, as it turns out, but none of the Mack detractors care to admit, Chris Mack coached under Sean Miller for five years. His coaching influences are a little wider and deeper than what was learned from just Skip.

Bottom line: Chris, through his team still has time to put together two halves of basketball in order to win the road games - and home games - required to set us up for an NCAA at-large birth. He's doing all this with two seniors and a lot of newish personnel. I believe we still are adjusting to a much more competitive conference environment. And I also believe we're still working our way through the backwash of the brawl and the D. Wells thing, though those two issues fade to white after this season. The season IS getting long in the tooth, and the lack of consistency is frustrating and baffling, especially as each winnable road loss piles up. But the entire body of work isn't in yet. Whether you think he deserves it or not, the man will have the chance to finish the season successfully.

throwbackmuskie
01-26-2015, 08:17 AM
After 20 games with enough experience as a head coach and an assistant and knowing my players that I've built relationships with I would figure out something.

Yet you are posting on a board instead of being a coach somewhere...