OSU vs Oregon

[MADXSTER]

Who you Got???

[X Factor]

Should be a good game. Oregon's offense vs. OSU's power running game and defensive line. I love Ohio State football, and had my doubts against UW and Bama, but after those 2 games, I think OSU can beat Oregon.

Urban Meyer is the best coach in college football, and Ohio State is playing excellent football.

[THRILLHOUSE]

I think Oregon's offense is too high powered for OSU to pull it off. But if the Buckeyes can establish their run game and keep the Ducks O off the field, they got a shot.

[bleedXblue]

Ducks vs. Bucks

Freshman QB vs. Heisman Trophy Winner

I'll take the Ducks.

[DC Muskie]

Ducks vs. Bucks

Freshman QB vs. Heisman Trophy Winner

I'll take the Ducks.

Just FYI, Cardale Jones is a sophomore.

It is pretty impressive that his first two starts he won the Big Ten Championship and Sugar Bowl.

[xu82]

Just FYI, Cardale Jones is a sophomore.

It is pretty impressive that his first two starts he won the Big Ten Championship and Sugar Bowl.

Yeah, but can he beat Slippery Rock?

[ammtd34]

Just FYI, Cardale Jones is a sophomore.

It is pretty impressive that his first two starts he won the Big Ten Championship and Sugar Bowl.

He'll also play the three Heisman finalists in consecutive games.

[MADXSTER]

I know The Ducks seem to be everyone's golden child but I think OSU wins.

[Smails]

Listening to SVP today and he had McShay on. I had no idea that Cardale Jones was 23 years old. McShay said that it's not out the realm of possibilities (but a long shot) that Jones could declare for the draft as opposed to being a back up until he's 24. How crazy would that be?

[chico]

Listening to SVP today and he had McShay on. I had no idea that Cardale Jones was 23 years old. McShay said that it's not out the realm of possibilities (but a long shot) that Jones could declare for the draft as opposed to being a back up until he's 24. How crazy would that be?

He's 23? so if he actually graduates in two more years he'll be 25, which means if he doesn't win a National Championship it will be seven years of college down the drain.

[vee4xu]

Listening to SVP today and he had McShay on. I had no idea that Cardale Jones was 23 years old. McShay said that it's not out the realm of possibilities (but a long shot) that Jones could declare for the draft as opposed to being a back up until he's 24. How crazy would that be?

I read in the Dispatch that Jones is 22. He went to prep school for one year after high school, then to OSU and is in his sophomore year of eligibility. Make not mistake, someone who "ain't come to OSU to play school" isn't destined to graduate, but he's already said he's returning to OSU next year. A better possibility is that Miller transfers and plays his final year of eligibility elsewhere. He did graduate this past December, so he can leave and play immediately. Of course, if Miller decides to stay and Jones has a big game versus Oregon, he may change his mind and go into the draft. Gonna be interesting come next spring if all three are still on OSU's team, but I doubt that's going to be the case. Oh, and they have two more five star QB's coming into the program next fall.

[chico]

I think the more important question is who will cover? Line is creeping down - now only Oregon -6.5. I believe it opened -7.5.

[Pete Delkus]

OSU...'so EE can do this again.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XdeUn3Tiaho

[Lamont Sanford]

O-H!

[GoMuskies]

With that O-H, I-O chant, I always thought the Bobcats must feel awfully welcome when they play a roadie in Columbus.

[Masterofreality]

Is there a college football game tonight?

I guess I wasn't paying attention.

O-H....O- HO................ho................ho?

[GoMuskies]

Dear God, if you're up there please, please, please in the name of all that is holy let the Oregon Ducks quack their way past the Buckeyes tonight. It looks like you have already forsaken us on the basketball side and doomed us to watch Kentucky win a national championship this year. Please don't make us watch BOTH Urban fucking Meyer AND John Calimari hoist trophies in the same year. It's just too much for us decent folks to bear. I don't ask for that much God, but you must strike down the Buckeyes with great vengeance tonight, Samuel L. Jackson style.

Amen.

[chico]

Dear God, if you're up there please, please, please in the name of all that is holy let the Oregon Ducks quack their way past the Buckeyes tonight. It looks like you have already forsaken us on the basketball side and doomed us to watch Kentucky win a national championship this year. Please don't make us watch BOTH Urban fucking Meyer AND John Calimari hoist trophies in the same year. It's just too much for us decent folks to bear. I don't ask for that much God, but you must strike down the Buckeyes with great vengeance tonight, Samuel L. Jackson style.

Amen.

If He must let them lose, please let them lose by less than 6. And let them score a lot of points in the process.

[GoMuskies]

God, I didn't bet on the game tonight, so what chico's asking for is fine, too.

Amen.

[LadyMuskie]

Samuel L. Jackson style.

Amen.

In other words, "No m-fing national championships in m-fing Ohio, m-fer."

[vee4xu]

O-H!

I-O!

[vee4xu]

Dear God, if you're up there please, please, please in the name of all that is holy let the Oregon Ducks quack their way past the Buckeyes tonight. It looks like you have already forsaken us on the basketball side and doomed us to watch Kentucky win a national championship this year. Please don't make us watch BOTH Urban fucking Meyer AND John Calimari hoist trophies in the same year. It's just too much for us decent folks to bear. I don't ask for that much God, but you must strike down the Buckeyes with great vengeance tonight, Samuel L. Jackson style.

Amen.

How come you didn't use Calapari's middle name. Also, though not certain, I do think that swearing while praying to God probably doesn't make the Big Guy happy. Just sayin'.

[vee4xu]

You know, OSU may lose tonight and that would be a bummer as an OSU fan. But, there's something really fulfilling watching all of the OSU haters wailing and gnashing of teeth before the start of the game. Very entertaining.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Is this the longest 1st quarter ever or is it just me?

[Xville]

Is this the longest 1st quarter ever or is it just me?

Nope it was extremely long. So far this game has been incredibly sloppy on both sides....wide open drops, fumbles etc. I will say though that ohio state's d seems to be settling in. The play calling all of a sudden by oregon is a little peculiar.

[Xville]

I know they can score quickly, but oregon is in a lot of trouble. Their lines are getting destroyed on both sides of the ball.

[waggy]

Ohio State looks nothing like they looked like at the beginning of the year. They actually look like a good team now.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Yeah can you believe this team lost to Va Tech? Urban is a pretty fantastic coach.

[Xville]

Yeah can you believe this team lost to Va Tech? Urban is a pretty fantastic coach.

That and honestly the best thing that could have happened for ohio state was Barrett and miller both getting injured. Jones brings a down field passing game that neither miller or Barrett really have. Ohio state was very one dimensional until jones became qb...no way they would even be here if he was not the qb.

[waggy]

"What a play by the young quarterback."

I laughed out loud.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Oregon right back in it. That INT was huge.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Oh no, he didnt drop that too early did he?????

[D-West & PO-Z]

Why do these guys do this!!!??????

I think it stands.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Wow it stands. Why do these guys do that!!! Wow.

[Xville]

Geezus hold on to the damn ball. This is what oregon needs to do though...throw the ball down the field with a little bit of run mixed in enough to keep ohio st somewhat honest

[Xavgrad08]

OSU is really shooting themselves in the foot with these turnovers. I wish this game started a little earlier.

[D-West & PO-Z]

No way OSU actually snaps this ball to go for it on 4th if hes short. Not after that last 4th down QB sneak got stuffed.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Ballsy. They got it. Very aggressive.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Oh wow. Another huge mistake. OSU could be running away with this if they werent turning it over.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Like the announcers are saying, it has to be tough on the defense to suddenly have to come on the field and defense this Oregon offense. Especially with a short field. If they can hold them to a FG that would be a huge win.

[Xville]

Ohio state's defense stands tall in the red zone again. This has been a really strange game.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Oregon's cheerleaders are definitely not terrible to look at.

[Xville]

Pretty sure this one's over....turn out the lights. Oregons defense got destroyed tonight

[GoMuskies]

I take this as a positive sign that UK will not win the national title this year. God would not do that to us. Too much to bear in one year.

[Xville]

I'll tell you one thing...mariota will be a waste of a draft pick for whoever drafts him. Seems like a great kid, but there is nothing in his game that says great NFL qb

[DC Muskie]

Dear God-

Thanks Bro.

[Masterofreality]

I'll tell you one thing...mariota will be a waste of a draft pick for whoever drafts him. Seems like a great kid, but there is nothing in his game that says great NFL qb

Is Cardele Jones a Pro Prospect, or am I looking at the reincarnation of Demarcus Russell?

[Strange Brew]

Why didn't OSU take a knee instead of running it in at the end?

[D-West & PO-Z]

I head Jim Tressel predict 42-17. Pretty spot on.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Why didn't OSU take a knee instead of running it in at the end?

I thought they should have taken a knee. Oregon wasnt using timeouts. Oh well I guess.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Who starts at QB next year for OSU??????

[waggy]

Barnett.

[paulxu]

I think Oregon really suffered from not having those two receivers. But not sure it would have made a difference.

[DC Muskie]

Barnett.

No way. Jones just won a title.

[Strange Brew]

I thought they should have taken a knee. Oregon wasnt using timeouts. Oh well I guess.

Hmm, not a fan of running it up in a title game but it what it is.

[Xville]

Is Cardele Jones a Pro Prospect, or am I looking at the reincarnation of Demarcus Russell?

I'd take him before mariota. There is no way in heck if I am an NFL gm that I ever draft a qb that runs a spread in college. More often than not it is just too much of an adjustment from college...newton has seemed to do ok but he is really the only one who i can think of that has had any success at all.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Hmm, not a fan of running it up in a title game but it what it is.

I'm not surprised Urban didnt knee it.

[Xville]

I'm not surprised Urban didnt knee it.

Some things never change...the guy was is and will always be a piece of crap. I'm sure that 3 or 4 years from now, we will hear how he helped to cover up arrests, academic issues etc just like at florida.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I just hope my car isnt flipped or burned while I am sleeping tonight.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Not that his wife shouldnt be there celebrating with him, but when was the last time a coaches wife was up on the stage with him for the trophy presentation in college or pros? I dont think I have ever seen that.

[Juice]

Is Cardele Jones a Pro Prospect, or am I looking at the reincarnation of Demarcus Russell?

Todd McShay (take it for what it's worth) said he would draft but at earliest the third round. Kid is stud though.

[DC Muskie]

I'm not surprised people are already bitching about Urban scoring.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I'm not surprised people are already bitching about Urban scoring.

I dont think it was a big deal. I think some coaches would have kneeled and some would have done what Urban did. I just wasnt surprised that Urban did what he did.

[BandAid]

Shouldn't Lebron be busy doing something else right now?

[DC Muskie]

I dont think it was a big deal. I think some coaches would have kneeled and some would have done what Urban did. I just wasnt surprised that Urban did what he did.

Who are those coaches? Just curious as to who wouldn't score from the one yard line in a title game.

[Strange Brew]

I'm not surprised people are already bitching about Urban scoring.

I'm not surprised DC is not surprised people are already complaining about Urban scoring. So predictable. :)

[D-West & PO-Z]

Who are those coaches? Just curious as to who wouldn't score from the one yard line in a title game.

Who would have kneed to run out the clock, when the other team already showed they werent calling timeouts, when one knee would have ended the game? A lot of coaches. I've seen teams kneel numerous times when they could have scored instead.

[GoMuskies]

I think most coaches would have taken a knee there.

[DC Muskie]

I'm not surprised DC is not surprised people are already complaining about Urban scoring. So predictable. :)

I'm not surprised that brew isn't surprised that I'm not surprised that people are already complaining about Urban scoring.

[SM#24]

People should be more annoyed Oregon wasn't using its timeouts. I don't think it's running it up in a two score game when it's not a kneel down situation.

[waggy]

Father Graham would've taken a knee there.

[DC Muskie]

Who would have kneed to run out the clock, when the other team already showed they werent calling timeouts, when one knee would have ended the game? A lot of coaches. I've seen teams kneel numerous times when they could have scored instead.

Really? When has that happened in the national title up by 15? It should be easy to name them. Please let me know.

[Xville]

I'm not surprised people are already bitching about Urban scoring.

I'm not surprised that ohio state fans who couldn't stand Meyer and thought the guy was a huge jerk, now all of a sudden love the guy and believe he has changed.

[D-West & PO-Z]

People should be more annoyed Oregon wasn't using its timeouts. I don't think it's running it up in a two score game when it's not a kneel down situation.

What? Lol this makes no sense.

[GoMuskies]

Really? When has that happened in the national title up by 15? It should be easy to name them. Please let me know.

Ha, now THAT will be difficult precedent to find.

[vee4xu]

Game (Wisconsin), set (Alabama), match (Oregon).

That last TD was for the selection committee, Mark May and OSU haters world wide.

GO BUCKS!!!!

[D-West & PO-Z]

Really? When has that happened in the national title up by 15? It should be easy to name them. Please let me know.

What does the fact that it was national championship game have to do with it? I'm curious to hear that one. Also I dont care if it was 10, 15, 20, 40 points the game is over and the other team is conceding that, you can end it and start celebrating sooner if you take one knee.

Edit: Again I said it wasnt a big deal, that I just wasnt surprised Urban didnt knee it and that some coaches would have done what he did and some would have kneed it.

[DC Muskie]

I'm not surprised that ohio state fans who couldn't stand Meyer and thought the guy was a huge jerk, now all of a sudden love the guy and believe he has changed.

So we are supposed to hate him then? Okay.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Game (Wisconsin), set (Alabama), match (Oregon).

That last TD was for the selection committee, Mark May and OSU haters world wide.

GO BUCKS!!!!

This is probably very true!

[Strange Brew]

I'm not surprised that brew isn't surprised that I'm not surprised that people are already complaining about Urban scoring.

ANND I'm not surprised DC was not surprised I in particular was not surprised he was not surprised there are some already complaining about Urban scoring.

[DC Muskie]

What does the fact that it was national championship game have to do with it? I'm curious to hear that one. Also I dont care if it was 10, 15, 20, 40 points the game is over and the other team is conceding that, you can end it and start celebrating sooner if you take one knee.

I'm waiting you name the coaches. How hard is it?

[DC Muskie]

That last TD was for the selection committee...

That makes zero sense. Unless that was a nice thing to do.

[Xville]

So we are supposed to hate him then? Okay.

Just pointing out the hypocrisy.

[DC Muskie]

Just pointing out the hypocrisy.

Okay. Congrats.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I'm waiting you name the coaches. How hard is it?

Lol, never said I could name that specific situation. Isnt one that I know of.

I'm waiting to hear what this being the national championship has to do with it. How hard is it?

[Xville]

I'm waiting you name the coaches. How hard is it?

Every coach not named Saban or meyer...happy?

[waggy]

I still kinda hate him. But I love the way the Bucks are playing football. Dayum.

[Xville]

Okay. Congrats.

Thanks!

[DC Muskie]

Every coach not named Saban or meyer...happy?

Ha. Sure. Those are the only two guys who would do it.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Ha. Sure. Those are the only two guys who would do it.

Name every coach who would. Go.....

[DC Muskie]

Lol, never said I could name that specific situation. Isnt one that I know of.

I'm waiting to hear what this being the national championship has to do with it. How hard is it?

Two possession game to a team that can score in ten seconds. And the national title is a pretty big deal.

[GoMuskies]

Name every coach who would. Go.....

Petrino

[DC Muskie]

Name every coach who would. Go.....

Les Miles, Jim Harbaugh, Jimbo Fisher, Brian Kelly, Gus Malzahn...That's just off the top of my head.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Two possession game to a team that can score in ten seconds. And the national title is a pretty big deal.

Ha, come one DC, you are reaching. Oregon had conceded and you know that. They already declined to call a timeout after the last run. You take a knee and game is over, you actually have less of a chance of losing taking the knee and not risking a fumble. Oregon wasnt going to score 15 points with zero seconds left on the clock.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Les Miles, Jim Harbaugh, Jimbo Fisher, Brian Kelly, Gus Malzahn...That's just off the top of my head.

Ha, this is fun, keep going.....

you have a lot to name considering you dont think any would have done it differently.

[D-West & PO-Z]

PS, Ezekiel Elliott is amazing. I am not an OSU fan but I appreciated watching him play tonight. What a tough runner.

[nuts4xu]

If you don't like it, don't let him score the last touchdown.

A great coach once said,"It's that plain and that simple."

Another coach once said "Fuck em....really, fuck em!"

[DC Muskie]

Ha, this is fun, keep going.....

you have a lot to name considering you dont think any would have done it differently.

Jim Mora, Gary Patterson, Tom Osbourne, Steve Spurrier, Mark Richt...

[Xville]

Two possession game to a team that can score in ten seconds. And the national title is a pretty big deal.
You are really going to try to justify that? Are you joking? There was what a minute left...and Oregon clearly was not using its timeouts. Do I think it's that big of a deal? Not really but don't try to tell me that the game wasn't already over and they really needed to punch that one in to ensure the win.

[DC Muskie]

You are really going to try to justify that? Are you joking? There was what a minute left...and Oregon clearly was not using its timeouts. Do I think it's that big of a deal? Not really but don't try to tell me that the game wasn't already over and they really needed to punch that one in to ensure the win.

If you don't think it's a big deal then why are you arguing about it?

[D-West & PO-Z]

You are really going to try to justify that? Are you joking? There was what a minute left...and Oregon clearly was not using its timeouts. Do I think it's that big of a deal? Not really but don't try to tell me that the game wasn't already over and they really needed to punch that one in to ensure the win.

I find it ironic that DC is calling out MOR in another thread about an argument he was using and he is trying to pass that one off over on this thread.

[GoMuskies]

If you don't think it's a big deal then why are you arguing about it?

Um, are you sure that YOU want to be taking this particular position? :)

[DC Muskie]

I find it ironic that DC is calling out MOR in another thread about an argument he was using and he is trying to pass that one off over on this thread.

What on earth are you talking about?

[DC Muskie]

Um, are you sure that YOU want to be taking this particular position? :)

I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy. It feels good!

[Xville]

If you don't think it's a big deal then why are you arguing about it?

Because you made a stupid comment about not being surprised people are already complaining about it.

[DC Muskie]

Because you made a stupid comment about not being surprised people are already complaining about it.

It is stupid to complain about it. This isn't CYO league with 12 year olds.

[D-West & PO-Z]

What on earth are you talking about?

"That's just sad. I'm sorry that's the best you can come up with."

That was a response of yours to an argument MOR was making in another current thread. I think it applies perfectly to you trying to pass off OSU having to score because Oregon can score quickly.

There are other arguments to be made, but that was quite a reach.

[DC Muskie]

"That's just sad. I'm sorry that's the best you can come up with."

That was a response of yours to an argument MOR was making in another current thread. I think it applies perfectly to you trying to pass off OSU having to score because Oregon can score quickly.

There are other arguments to be made, but that was quite a reach.

Okay, if that's your point we are stupid for reading it.

MOR tried to make a point about how basketball only has 5 players on the court or some shit, therefore our A10 recruited upperclassmen and our BE recruited freshman can't be expected to beat DePaul at DePaul.

I was making a point that scoring at the end, the game wasn't over.

[xudash]

Urban Meyer: play through the pain of 16 seconds or play through the pain of a loss.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Okay, if that's your point we are stupid for reading it.

MOR tried to make a point about how basketball only has 5 players on the court or some shit, therefore our A10 recruited upperclassmen and our BE recruited freshman can't be expected to beat DePaul at DePaul.

I was making a point that scoring at the end, the game wasn't over.

Ha, again, it was over if you knee it. That would have been the last play.

You. Are. Wrong.

Give it up. If you want to say they didnt knee it because F them and they need to stop OSU and OSU wanted to run up the score and they can do that if they want bc the other team should stop them, etc, etc then fine thats an argument. You look really foolish when you try to justify it as necessary because the game was still in question.

In your words:

"That's just sad. I'm sorry that's the best you can come up with."

[DC Muskie]

Ha, again, it was over if you knee it. That would have been the last play.

You. Are. Wrong.

Give it up. If you want to say they didnt knee it because F them and they need to stop OSU and OSU wanted to run up the score and they can do that if they want bc the other team should stop them, etc, etc then fine thats an argument. You look really foolish when you try to justify it as necessary because the game was still in question.

In your words:

"That's just sad. I'm sorry that's the best you can come up with."

You. Are. Cute.

The game wasn't over until we scored. Game was still two possessions. Get all butthurt about it, think no other coach wouldn't have done it.

Doesn't matter. OSU drilled them. Even giving the ball away four times, still drilled them.

By 22.

[Xville]

You. Are. Cute.

The game wasn't over until we scored. Game was still two possessions. Get all butthurt about it, think no other coach wouldn't have done it.

Doesn't matter. OSU drilled them. Even giving the ball away four times, still drilled them.

By 22.
Can't even admit when you are dead wrong...the game was over. Period. You look like a complete idiot trying to justify something that's not true. I'm sad for you

[DC Muskie]

Can't even admit when you are dead wrong...the game was over. Period. You look like a complete idiot trying to justify something that's not true. I'm sad for you

Wrong about what? We ran up the score to 22? WHAT ASSHOLES!

[X Factor]

Nick Saban did the EXACT same thing to Texas in BCS Championship game a few years ago! You want me to send you guys the game tape?

[X Factor]

And on the previous drive with 4 minutes left and a 4th and 1, Urban let the play clock run out for a delay of game and he punted. He easily could've gone for that and you know OSU would've converted.

[LA Muskie]

Over the weekend Baltimore didn't call a TO the first 3 plays of New England's final possession, lulling New England into a false sense of security. Instead of running plays (and some extra time off the clock) they took a knee. Baltimore called its final TO after 3rd down and got the ball back on a punt. They didn't score with their final possession, but they created the possibility. New England probably could have avoided the risk just by playing out their final possession.

[GoMuskies]

Yes, Oregon was clearly trying to lull OSU into a false sense of security so that they could call a timeout after the kneel down and get the ball back on their own 20 down 15 points with 20 seconds to go if Ohio State happened to miss a FG that was the equivalent on an extra point. Lucky for Urban that he didn't fall for that old trick!

[LA Muskie]

I'm just sayin...

[waggy]

I just want to say. Child Please.

[Juice]

PS, Ezekiel Elliott is amazing. I am not an OSU fan but I appreciated watching him play tonight. What a tough runner.

That's what I was thinking last night. I despise OSU but I like watching their players. Elliot and Cardale are fun to watch. I'll root for them once they go to the NFL.

[Masterofreality]

I just hope my car isnt flipped or burned while I am sleeping tonight.

If you didn't have a couch in it, you're probably OK.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Can't even admit when you are dead wrong...the game was over. Period. You look like a complete idiot trying to justify something that's not true. I'm sad for you

Fruitless. Pretty hilarious, but fruitless.

Also kinda scary.

[D-West & PO-Z]

And on the previous drive with 4 minutes left and a 4th and 1, Urban let the play clock run out for a delay of game and he punted. He easily could've gone for that and you know OSU would've converted.

Oh yeah, he did that out of the kindness in his heart. Ha. It would have been a pointless risk to go for that, the punt was the smart football move. He didnt do it because he didnt want to show Oregon up.

Bad example.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Yes, Oregon was clearly trying to lull OSU into a false sense of security so that they could call a timeout after the kneel down and get the ball back on their own 20 down 15 points with 20 seconds to go if Ohio State happened to miss a FG that was the equivalent on an extra point. Lucky for Urban that he didn't fall for that old trick!

Ha

[D-West & PO-Z]

If you didn't have a couch in it, you're probably OK.

I was good, my car was fine. Did hear there were some fires near campus though.

[mohr5150]

I am officially on record in believing the world will be ending in 2015, and that the devil as defeated all good in the world. When Kenfucky is crowned the champion of college basketball, and we have two of the dirtiest programs on the planet ruling over college sports, Armageddon will ensue. Get prepared, folks.

[chico]

I am officially on record in believing the world will be ending in 2015, and that the devil as defeated all good in the world. When Kenfucky is crowned the champion of college basketball, and we have two of the dirtiest programs on the planet ruling over college sports, Armageddon will ensue. Get prepared, folks.

In the immortal words of Lou Holtz, "I don't really think God cares who wins or loses a football game…..













but His Mother does."

[muskiefan82]

I have to think that last touchdown was for Elliott's run at the Heisman next year.

Four looks much better than three when you look at stats. That game and those stats over the last three games will resonate next year if OSU makes it to the top again.

[supernintendo]

. Do I think it's that big of a deal? .

Yes, you clearly see it as a big deal.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I have to think that last touchdown was for Elliott's run at the Heisman next year.

Four looks much better than three when you look at stats. That game and those stats over the last three games will resonate next year if OSU makes it to the top again.

Again, perfectly legitimate argument and I have no problem with that.

Really any reason makes sense and I have no problem with other than the game was still in question or doubt or Oregon can score quickly, etc.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

What's the over/under now for years until OSU has to vacate and Urban Meyer misses his family? The college with fake classes, free cars, fake jobs, and tattoos for gear hiring the coach that originally recruited (paid) Cam Newton is bound to get busted again.

[supernintendo]

What's the over/under now for years until OSU has to vacate and Urban Meyer misses his family? The college with fake classes, free cars, fake jobs, and tattoos for gear hiring the coach that originally recruited (paid) Cam Newton is bound to get busted again.

Yikes. You mad bro?

[Xville]

What's the over/under now for years until OSU has to vacate and Urban Meyer misses his family? The college with fake classes, free cars, fake jobs, and tattoos for gear hiring the coach that originally recruited (paid) Cam Newton is bound to get busted again.

my guess is 3-4 years he will be out of there. When the newness wears off and he isn't able to recruit like he has the past two or so years, he will be gone just like what happened at Florida (which by the way he almost completely decimated that program). The guy is an egotistical maniac who had to make up the fact that he had some health problems and that is why he had to leave...not that he was in the middle of a mediocre season and the administration started to see how he had covered a lot of arrests, academic stuff up. Although, even Florida has more integrity than Ohio State does so I guess for Ohio State it will just be the record.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

No, this was the cheaters bowl with both OSU and Oregon suffering recent violations. Mostly, I am tired of celebrating it as if it's actually an accomplishment. Meyer got caught up in an out of control program down in Florida where kids were getting arrested three times more than their win count and bails on them for two fake reasons. He then takes over a program that really should have had the death penalty. Do you really think he is all of a sudden squeaky clean and the school is?

XU isn't getting McD's kids. We aren't getting 5* kids on the regular, at least ones that aren't local. I am pretty sure our program doesn't have wads of flowing cash. It's a lot easier to get behind that even when we lose than it is watching a program like UK and World Wide Wes, Duke with Lance Moore getting a $30k promissory note in December of their last title year from a jewelry store, and KU with their McLemore and Arthur issues.

I will take clean over obvious dirt any day. Football is just way too dirty for my taste, and really there is no reason for it to be this dirty. Yes, all those SEC years with Alabama/Auburn/LSU etc winning had me shaking my head as well.


Yikes. You mad bro?

[supernintendo]

No, this was the cheaters bowl with both OSU and Oregon suffering recent violations. Mostly, I am tired of celebrating it as if it's actually an accomplishment. Meyer got caught up in an out of control program down in Florida where kids were getting arrested three times more than their win count and bails on them for two fake reasons. He then takes over a program that really should have had the death penalty. Do you really think he is all of a sudden squeaky clean and the school is?

XU isn't getting McD's kids. We aren't getting 5* kids on the regular, at least ones that aren't local. I am pretty sure our program doesn't have wads of flowing cash. It's a lot easier to get behind that even when we lose than it is watching a program like UK and World Wide Wes, Duke with Lance Moore getting a $30k promissory note in December of their last title year from a jewelry store, and KU with their McLemore and Arthur issues.

I will take clean over obvious dirt any day. Football is just way too dirty for my taste, and really there is no reason for it to be this dirty. Yes, all those SEC years with Alabama/Auburn/LSU etc winning had me shaking my head as well.


OSU should have received the death penalty for free tattoos? You had access to Meyer's health records at Florida? Hate away I guess ...

I wouldn't suggest Ohio State is squeaky clean under Meyer, but bitterness based on assumptions seems silly.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

OSU should have received the death penalty for free tattoos? You had access to Meyer's health records at Florida? Hate away I guess ...

I wouldn't suggest Ohio State is squeaky clean under Meyer, but bitterness based on assumptions seems silly.

Free tatts, cars, the feds had them. The NCAA focused on Tressel knowing and doing nothing but instituting a cover-up. What was really funny, was that Clarrett the nutjob who narced them out in 2002 was pretty much spot on similar to crazy Canseco in baseball. It's funny how that works out sometimes.

Go ahead and use the good old, everyone else does it so it's ok excuse. :dunno:

[supernintendo]

Go ahead and use the good old, everyone else does it so it's ok excuse. :dunno:

I never said that nor would I. Frankly because I don't care. It's sports and I like to see the teams I like win. I don't remember the last time a group of choir boys won anything.

And why does RealDeal keep giving me negative reps? Just ignore me, you're creeping me out.

[PM Thor]

my guess is 3-4 years he will be out of there. When the newness wears off and he isn't able to recruit like he has the past two or so years, he will be gone just like what happened at Florida (which by the way he almost completely decimated that program). The guy is an egotistical maniac who had to make up the fact that he had some health problems and that is why he had to leave...not that he was in the middle of a mediocre season and the administration started to see how he had covered a lot of arrests, academic stuff up. Although, even Florida has more integrity than Ohio State does so I guess for Ohio State it will just be the record.

Thing is, a national championship most definitely won't hurt his recruiting. Heck, the #1 2016 RB recruit out of New Jersey Kareem Walker, committed during HALFTIME of the game. He might be dirty, and I really don't doubt it, but his upside for staying at OSU is pretty big.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I dont know if Urban has any pro aspirations or not (probably not at least for a year or two with this team) but they are going to come knocking pretty loudly and pretty quickly.

[vee4xu]

I'm going out on a limb and saying the AZ was not a fan of that last TD last night. Dude you are where you are after last night so no judgement from me. Meyer is from Ohio, So's his wife. He went to UC. His desire was always to coach at OSU. He started as a grad assistant there. He makes plenty of money. Lives in a great area. I know because his house is about a mile from mine. His daughters are out of the house and his son is in high school. OSU and Ohio are home so keep hoping for that Fantasy stuff you're typing because it's probably your only hope that a 50 year old man, living at home, working his dream job and making tons of money will leave any time soon.

[D-West & PO-Z]

His first job was at St. X, defensive backs coach. The bombers breed em well.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Ha, just catching the late airing of PTI and both Wilbon and Kornheiser comment on how Meyer should have taken a knee at the end.

Guess no one told them about the 15 point TD Oregon could have gotten after tricking OSU into taking a knee by making them think they werent going to use their timeouts.

[DC Muskie]

Ha, just catching the late airing of PTI and both Wilbon and Kornheiser comment on how Meyer should have taken a knee at the end.

Ha! Well I'll be on the other side of Tony and Black Tony everyday of the week.

[DC Muskie]

Really any reason makes sense and I have no problem with other than the game was still in question or doubt or Oregon can score quickly, etc.

Um, no you had a problem with it, regardless. No matter what the reason.

[DC Muskie]

Yes, Oregon was clearly trying to lull OSU into a false sense of security so that they could call a timeout after the kneel down and get the ball back on their own 20 down 15 points with 20 seconds to go if Ohio State happened to miss a FG that was the equivalent on an extra point. Lucky for Urban that he didn't fall for that old trick!

I'm actually surprised Oregon even tried to score when they got the ball back, since it's obvious they gave up. They must be pissed they got run up on by 22 instead of settling for 15.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Um, no you had a problem with it, regardless. No matter what the reason.

Nope

[paulxu]

I have no idea what this is all about.
Urban thought the line was OSU-16, and he wanted to make sure he covered for his friends back home.

[vee4xu]

Hey, it's a big a game for players wearing big boy pants. Helfrich doesn't seem miffed about it, not sure why all the sanctimony on Oregon's behalf around here. He's filed it away and if they play OSU again and he has a chance to shove it up Urban's ass, he'll do it. Like Rick Nuheisel said tonight on the radio, when he coached he felt that he coaches his team and the opposing coach coaches his opponent's team and he never worried about that sort of stuff.

[xu82]

I know this is a tired subject, but I'm a tired person. Is a game that keeps me up well past midnight on a Monday really the best time for a national championship? I watched the game while spending the night at the home of a friend/OSU fan, so it was a happy late night, but still too damn late. And Super Bowls on a school night suck too! There, I said it. (But I'm still tired.)

[DC Muskie]

Hey, it's a big a game for players wearing big boy pants. Helfrich doesn't seem miffed about it, not sure why all the sanctimony on Oregon's behalf around here. He's filed it away and if they play OSU again and he has a chance to shove it up Urban's ass, he'll do it. Like Rick Nuheisel said tonight on the radio, when he coached he felt that he coaches his team and the opposing coach coaches his opponent's team and he never worried about that sort of stuff.

Hey man, it's not that big a deal, some people weren't surprised a guy who's won three national titles at two different programs would do something like it. Which means something bothered these people, but not much, but enough to make it a point that any argument they could get behind is something they could understand, except ones that don't. Oh and Uncle Tony thought they should have taken a knee, so there you go.

No big deal. Or something.

[DC Muskie]

I know this is a tired subject, but I'm a tired person. Is a game that keeps me up well past midnight on a Monday really the best time for a national championship? I watched the game while spending the night at the home of a friend/OSU fan, so it was a happy late night, but still too damn late. And Super Bowls on a school night suck too! There, I said it. (But I'm still tired.)

It's not the best time, but really there's nothing you can do.

[xu82]

It's not the best time, but really there's nothing you can do.

I can bitch and moan. Really. Ask my wife.... she'll vouch for me there.

(Of course that changes nothing, but it's a hobby.)

[DC Muskie]

I can bitch and moan. Really. Ask my wife.... she'll vouch for me there.

(Of course that changes nothing, but it's a hobby.)

In the end though, the playoffs were a huge success.

[xu82]

In the end though, the playoffs were a huge success.

ABSOLUTELY! Hard to believe it took so long.

[Strange Brew]

I know this is a tired subject, but I'm a tired person. Is a game that keeps me up well past midnight on a Monday really the best time for a national championship? I watched the game while spending the night at the home of a friend/OSU fan, so it was a happy late night, but still too damn late. And Super Bowls on a school night suck too! There, I said it. (But I'm still tired.)

Head West young man! MT time is awesome for sports.

[usfldan]

I know this is a tired subject, but I'm a tired person. Is a game that keeps me up well past midnight on a Monday really the best time for a national championship? I watched the game while spending the night at the home of a friend/OSU fan, so it was a happy late night, but still too damn late. And Super Bowls on a school night suck too! There, I said it. (But I'm still tired.)

It's not the best time, but really there's nothing you can do.

Why not Friday night? I get that they have to avoid Saturday and Sunday because of the NFL playoffs, but one of the (few) complaints about the Super Bowl is that everybody has to work the next day. College football can do something about that, and have it Friday, when most everyone is off the next day. If it starts/ends late on Friday, who cares?

[D-West & PO-Z]

Why not Friday night? I get that they have to avoid Saturday and Sunday because of the NFL playoffs, but one of the (few) complaints about the Super Bowl is that everybody has to work the next day. College football can do something about that, and have it Friday, when most everyone is off the next day. If it starts/ends late on Friday, who cares?

Maybe it has to do with the casual fan who might watch just because they are home and arent doing anything else? If its on a Friday a lot of people have plans and maybe wont go out of their way to watch? The big time sports fans will of course watch no matter what day but the fringe people might be less inclined to watch if they arent just sitting home.

[DC Muskie]

Maybe it has to do with the casual fan who might watch just because they are home and arent doing anything else? If its on a Friday a lot of people have plans and maybe wont go out of their way to watch? The big time sports fans will of course watch no matter what day but the fringe people might be less inclined to watch if they arent just sitting home.

Yeah, Fridays would be great, but that's where network shows go to die. You won't get the necessary ratings for revenue. And Monday is already established as a night for big time football, especially on ESPN.

It sucks, but that's just the way it is.