Xavier vs Georgetown

[waggy]

Nice win!

[Porkopolis]

Great, great start to 2015. Go X!

[MADXSTER]

So is that a 2014 win or 2015 win?

[xu82]

I'm OK with a 10:00PM NYE start. For the record.

[Porkopolis]

So is that a 2014 win or 2015 win?

Both. It was that good. :drinks:

[Xavier]

Huge win. Great Defense. Good to get a top 25 win, especially like that.

[X Factor]

That was a heckuva defensive performance by Xavier!!! Physical, tough defense against another big, physical team.

Great win boys!! Happy New Year!

[GoMuskies]

That was fun. Happy New Year!

[Jesuit4Life]

A BE NYE W - an annual tradition.

[Snipe]

That is the right way to start a new year. Things are looking up.

[gladdenguy]

When they "D" up like that they can be real good.

[xu82]

Crowd was really into it. Great Job

Again, loved the crowd. I don't usually notice, but that got my attention.

[XUFan09]

When in doubt, whiskey.

Good call, sir. I had a little bit left of Blanton's in my decanter, then I switched to my Elijah Craig.

[XUFan09]

When they "D" up like that they can be real good.

Yup. This offense is one of the best Xavier has ever seen. The defense, though, needs to catch up, at least somewhat.

[X-Fan]

When they "D" up like that they can be real good.
Agreed. Great win, especially with the Frosh being mostly absent. Really good contributions from Farr, Remy, Dee, Matt, Myles, and Reynolds.

I don't think these guys have come close to how good they can play together. Once they start to click on O, with tonight's D...watch out!

Go X!!!!

[X-band '01]

Good win fellas. Happy New Year to every XavierHoops poster and those who were at the game.....sounded very good!!!!

Best fan of the night by far was in a light blue Dumb and Dumber suit celebrating Jim Harbaugh's return to Michigan.

As for the game itself, Georgetown really put themselves in a hole early on with quite a few unforced turnovers. They had sporadic offensive spurts at best - Xavier was quite better defensively than the Auburn loss.

[XUFan09]

They had sporadic offensive spurts at best - Xavier was quite better defensively than the Auburn loss.

Against a Kenpom #25 offense, their D was impressive. They held Georgetown to 0.84 points per possession, the exact same mark to which they held the D1 average FGCU offense.

[IM4X]

Mack coached one hell of a game.
He was tuned in like I've never seen him. He's also must have had some productive practices because he got these kids hustling better and playing much better D. He was able to keep his players focused and found some good rotations. He was on his game and his relentless coaching from the bench helped the team finish strong. It was very promising to see this team can put a good team away at the end of a game.

Some great effort by X players:
Farr stepped up in so many ways. So proud of his effort. While Myles and Dee made a few silly mistakes, they both showed a heck of a lot of hustle and determination today. Reynolds May have officially arrived- this may be "that game" that gives him the confidence to play "all -in" like he did today and be fearless about taking it to any defender. The team passed well. Did a solid job breaking the press. They could have shot a little better tonight, but I absolutely loved the hustle. This kind of hustle will win us a lot of games.
We'll done coach! We'll done X team!

[LadyMuskie]

Game was awesome. Fans were awesome. The students that were there were truly awesome. I lost my voice cheering (because I'm old, married and have children), but we all had a great time. There were a lot of kids there, but even so the crowd was loud. At one point "Go XU" started in the student section by the students and was being chanted throughout the arena. It was electric.

My one concern, and it was brief (thankfully) was the vacation we took from rebounding for part of the second half. We can't keep doing that. Otherwise, we looked good tonight.

[Emp]

From the post game presser, per Mack: Bluett has been sick the entire last 8 days, missed 3 practices. One of the reporters also said Stain was sick, Mack seemed to be ironic with "he was sick?"

Very glad to have driven down from Michigan for this game. The D was great, Gtown had 6 assists. It's the metric du jour, but I like it.

[Juice]

I dont feel like going through this whole thread but are the Dee haters still out there?

[OTRMUSKIE]

We all want to believe these guys are sick. Bottom line is everybody is sick. X won at home again and hopefully they win on the road.

[XU-PA]

Signature win.
Stain shutdown a beast of a big man, and Mack's sub with hom kept him fresh and almost out of trouble.
Jimmy the Chin,,,,, from the first shot, in the game, very impressed.
Jalen, in my best valley girl,,,,, Oh,,,, My,,, God,,,,,,
Dee, way to run a team, you have my never ending love.
Myles and JMac,,, only 8 points combined but your presence took up so much defensive attention, love ya both.
Fans,,,, fantastic, the place was alive, a true madhouse!!!
And finally, I didn't read any of this thread till this morning, but the whiney ass posts one after another,,, Oooooh I'll miss my NYE party,,, Ooooh, I won't be able to see Ryan Seacrest ring in the New Year,,, OOoooooh I won't be able to see the ball drop. The Ball dropping is the problem,,,Perhaps yours haven't,,,,, seriously, be a fan.

Let's Go X!!

[Xville]

What a freaking game incredible efgort! That is what this team is capable of. Davis and Reynolds both played outstanding. Those two are the keys to this team's success. Loved the way davis played...I'm always hard on him but that was impressive. He made a couple of mistakes but overall led the team the way a point guard should. Excellent game...very proud fan today!

[waggy]

Mack coached one hell of a game.
He was tuned in like I've never seen him. He's also must have had some productive practices because he got these kids hustling better and playing much better D. He was able to keep his players focused and found some good rotations. He was on his game and his relentless coaching from the bench helped the team finish strong. It was very promising to see this team can put a good team away at the end of a game.

Some great effort by X players:
Farr stepped up in so many ways. So proud of his effort. While Myles and Dee made a few silly mistakes, they both showed a heck of a lot of hustle and determination today. Reynolds May have officially arrived- this may be "that game" that gives him the confidence to play "all -in" like he did today and be fearless about taking it to any defender. The team passed well. Did a solid job breaking the press. They could have shot a little better tonight, but I absolutely loved the hustle. This kind of hustle will win us a lot of games.
We'll done coach! We'll done X team!

You hit on almost all of it. Mack was more animated than I can ever remember him. Historically he has been very good opening the conference season. I didn't want to jinx it prior to the game, but he has been very good in that regard.

[Masterofreality]

Websters Dictionary Definition of "Lockdown Defense":

"Remy Abell on Devauntes Smith Rivera, December 31, 2014- January 1, 2015."

Remy could smell what kind of gum DSR was chewing.

[gladdenguy]

I have been impressed with Dee over the last 3 games. Myles Davis has impressed me as well this year.
Hopefully this was a sign of this team getting much better. Very exciting and encouraging win.

[bjf123]

Again, loved the crowd. I don't usually notice, but that got my attention.

Mack was great at using his arms to get everyone up. At one point inside the final media time out, he turned to the crowd behind the X bench and told everyone to get up off their asses.


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[Masterofreality]

One more thing about Remy.

A huge 3 from the left wing after GTown had cut the lead back to 8 later in the second half. He had other timely baskets too.

Big time player in a big time game. Glad we've got him on our team.

[XfansinKy]

Myles Davis is just a baller now down to do whatever he has to. I actually thought when him and Remy out there playing point by committee, they handled the defensive pressure from Georgetown really well. I also believe we are watching Jalen turn into the NBA draft prospect we had hoped for. I've noticed Jalen has been getting a little better every game the last few games. Tonight though was his night. It's a good time to be optimistic.

[PMI]

Awesome game and awesome defensive effort. THAT is the way we need to play this year. Hope we can take it on the road. Too many other thoughts but it's time to leave for the Winter Classic! Happy New Year and Go X!

[X-Fan]

One more thing about Remy.

A huge 3 from the left wing after GTown had cut the lead back to 8 later in the second half. He had other timely baskets too.

Big time player in a big time game. Glad we've got him on our team.
Totally agree. Love what we're seeing out of Remy. Hopefully I'll soon stop "cringing" when he shots. It looks so different I never expect it to go in!

[UCGRAD4X]

Websters Dictionary Definition of "Lockdown Defense":

"Remy Abell on Devauntes Smith Rivera, December 31, 2014- January 1, 2015."

Remy could smell what kind of gum DSR was chewing.

This! Every time they put someone else on DSR - he seemed to score.


Mack was great at using his arms to get everyone up. At one point inside the final media time out, he turned to the crowd behind the X bench and told everyone to get up off their asses.

Wife was sure he was going to get T'ed up for being way out on the court… stamping his foot repeatedly like he wanted them to notice. He was fired up.

[QUOTE=Masterofreality;474657]One more thing about Remy.

A huge 3 from the left wing after GTown had cut the lead back to 8 later in the second half. He had other timely baskets too.

Big time player in a big time game. Glad we've got him on our team.

A BIG crowd pleaser. Seemed to be the hammer and the nail. ELECTRIC!

[DC Muskie]

Websters Dictionary Definition of "Lockdown Defense":

"Remy Abell on Devauntes Smith Rivera, December 31, 2014- January 1, 2015."

Remy could smell what kind of gum DSR was chewing.

I sorta have to laugh at this. Remy did a good job, but DSR was the game's leading scorer and shot 55% from the field. I guess if Remy didn't do what he did, DSR would have ended up killing us by 50.

[xuwin]

Myles Davis is just a baller now down to do whatever he has to. I actually thought when him and Remy out there playing point by committee, they handled the defensive pressure from Georgetown really well. I also believe we are watching Jalen turn into the NBA draft prospect we had hoped for. I've noticed Jalen has been getting a little better every game the last few games. Tonight though was his night. It's a good time to be optimistic.

Matt is also a big factor in handling the full court pressure. Get it to him in the middle and he will get it to the open man. Xavier breaks the pressure by committee rather than have a point guard do it by himself. Georgetown tried to take advantage of Dee being out and it didn't work. I know some X posters don't like to hear it but that is good coaching on Xavier's part.

[xuwin]

I sorta have to laugh at this. Remy did a good job, but DSR was the game's leading scorer and shot 55% from the field. I guess if Remy didn't do what he did, DSR would have ended up killing us by 50.

Xavier held DSR to 9 shots in the game. That was where the defense came in play. He got half of his points from the line and I would say that there were a couple of very questionable calls. He did very little outside to hurt us.

[paulxu]

Just as importantly, a reflection of our defense on DSR, are his normal guard numbers.
He leads his team in assists at 3.5/game. Last night? Zero.
He averages 1.6 TO's/game. Last night? 4.

[kyxu]

I sorta have to laugh at this. Remy did a good job, but DSR was the game's leading scorer and shot 55% from the field. I guess if Remy didn't do what he did, DSR would have ended up killing us by 50.

Agreed. Abell's defense on DSR was solid to the extent that he didn't go off for 30, but it was just a really good team defensive effort last night. DSR got his 18, but Josh Smith managed only 10 and no other Hoya reached double figures. After Smith, they had a couple guys with 6 points, and that's it. Xavier's defense really shut down Georgetown.

But whatever. Xavier's performances at home haven't been the issue. They're always impressive at the Cintas. Let's see what happens when they go on the road. Last night is for naught if they go and give up 77 at DePaul.

[bourbonman]

I hate to oversimplify this again, but I thoroughly enjoyed watching this game. Thanks for all the fans who could get to the game and screamed their a$$e$ off. Wish I could have been there. Go X!

[Masterofreality]

I sorta have to laugh at this. Remy did a good job, but DSR was the game's leading scorer and shot 55% from the field. I guess if Remy didn't do what he did, DSR would have ended up killing us.

Tell me how many drives to the basket DSR had in the second half when he usually takes over the game. Answer- one on a questionable foul call.

Laugh away.

[Xville]

Can this team do it on the road outside of depaul..not even going to count them. That will be the difference between a good team and something special..

[Masterofreality]

Can this team do it on the road outside of depaul..not even going to count them. That will be the difference between a good team and something special..

Winning on the road in ANY venue in this league will be a mountain to climb. That being said, we'd better win in Clifton.

[muskienick]

Can this team do it on the road outside of depaul..not even going to count them. That will be the difference between a good team and something special..

I guess this is a reasonable question, but I question your timing. Your posting history would make many of us believe you would fit in much better with the skyhops, madness31, thewoodslives, and harryfe crew over at MM!

[Xville]

I guess this is a reasonable question, but I question your timing. Your posting history would make many of us believe you would fit in much better with the skyhops, madness31, thewoodslives, and harryfe crew over at MM!

Thanks for the input..

[Muskie]

Can this team do it on the road outside of depaul..not even going to count them. That will be the difference between a good team and something special..

Had the same discussion somewhat as I walked out last night. Though it was phrased more along the lines of I wish we could play a road game like that one a couple of times this season. Who knows. Maybe last night the team turned the corner on that front. Guess we will see.

[OH.X.MI]

Just want to say I had a GREAT time last night!! Tons of fun and I would go again in a heartbeat! I'm gonna rewatch the game this afternoon to clarify some slight memory lapses!

Happy New Year!

Also, I LOVE Jalen Reynolds!

[OH.X.MI]

Also anyone have a link to Jalen's post game?I saw on twitter he had some funny quotes but I can't seem to find a video of it.

[smileyy]

Can this team do it on the road outside of depaul..not even going to count them. That will be the difference between a good team and something special..

A cloud in every silver lining.

[Muskie]

Just want to say I had a GREAT time last night!! Tons of fun and I would go again in a heartbeat! I'm gonna rewatch the game this afternoon to clarify some slight memory lapses!

Happy New Year!

Also, I LOVE Jalen Reynolds!

The game was on FS2 this morning. I watched a half as I got ready.

[XU2011]

What a game!

Reynolds was outstanding, the dominant player we all know he can be.
Remy did a spectacular job on DSR defensively.
Myles continued playing very solid.
Mack was actually incredibly intense and into the game. Getting the crowd into it several times. Laser focused. It was awesome.

And I thought Reynolds T was a cheap call, but I honestly don't mind Jalen doing that. We need to get that grit, toughness and emotion back into the program.

Overall great win... we can't have a letdown at DePaul an over 225 RPI team.

[DC Muskie]

Xavier held DSR to 9 shots in the game. That was where the defense came in play. He got half of his points from the line and I would say that there were a couple of very questionable calls. He did very little outside to hurt us.

And made more than half of them. Jalen made and took one more shot. Tu made a living of scoring more from the line and no one ever complained. Points are points.


Agreed. Abell's defense on DSR was solid to the extent that he didn't go off for 30, but it was just a really good team defensive effort last night. DSR got his 18, but Josh Smith managed only 10 and no other Hoya reached double figures. After Smith, they had a couple guys with 6 points, and that's it. Xavier's defense really shut down Georgetown.

But whatever. Xavier's performances at home haven't been the issue. They're always impressive at the Cintas. Let's see what happens when they go on the road. Last night is for naught if they go and give up 77 at DePaul.

I thought the defense on Smith was far more impressive. Also we had about 1,000 shots tossed and it really showed our resiliency in keep pouring it on. A complete team effort. I just find it funny singling out Remy for holding the leading scorer to 18 points.


Tell me how many drives to the basket DSR had in the second half when he usually takes over the game. Answer- one on a questionable foul call.

Laugh away.

Wow, one drive? I guess him hitting all of those jumpers mean nothing to you, because you want to think this was a Stanley Burrell lock-down, have at it. In reality, I will laugh away at the fact you think this some sort of tremendous individual effort.

Stats don't lie.

We shut down everyone else. Remy merely slowed the best player on the floor. Tip of the cap, but not deserving of any silly definition you want to bestow.

[X Factor]

Totally agree. Love what we're seeing out of Remy. Hopefully I'll soon stop "cringing" when he shots. It looks so different I never expect it to go in!

Why do you cringe? Remy is shooting 41% (13-32) from three on the year. The past 6 games, he is shooting 60% (9-15) from three.

He has a funky release, but he's knocking them down at a good clip.

[smileyy]

We shut down everyone else. Remy merely slowed the best player on the floor. Tip of the cap, but not deserving of any silly definition you want to bestow.

Doing both at the same time is the impressive part. Being able to combine good team D with an individually excellent defender can make for some great performances.

[DC Muskie]

Doing both at the same time is the impressive part. Being able to combine good team D with an individually excellent defender can make for some great performances.

Again, I wouldn't call it "excellent."

18 points, 55% shooting.

DSR is not LeBron James.

[paulxu]

I don't know what to call it. But I'll repeat my earlier thoughts.
He scored 18, and averages 15...so that's about average.
But in the last 4 games he had a total of 4 TO's. Last night he had 4.
Myles picked his pocket twice in the 2nd half, leading to Dee's layup and Jalen's layup.

He leads the team in assists with 3.5/game. Last night he had 0 assists.

I think those two team defensive efforts against DSR's normal game were huge difference makers.

[Masterofreality]

I thought the defense on Smith was far more impressive. Also we had about 1,000 shots tossed and it really showed our resiliency in keep pouring it on. A complete team effort. I just find it funny singling out Remy for holding the leading scorer to 18 points.

Stats don't lie.

We shut down everyone else. Remy merely slowed the best player on the floor. Tip of the cap, but not deserving of any silly definition you want to bestow.

Yeah, stats don't lie. 7 of DSR's points were from the line- 2 of those were from a questionable foul call on Remy on a drive. That leaves only 11 from the field. He only had 9 shots. He had 18 shots against Indiana and scored 29. For you to minimize Abell's effort is what is laughable. There were also some of Smith's baskets that didn't come against Remy because he was on the bench resting. Macura and Myles Davis guarded him at times and DSR shredded Macura. When Remy was on him, he shut his ass down.

And here's another stat that doesn't lie- 70-53 Xavier.

[usfldan]

I would stop short of calling Abell’s performance lock-down, but I do think the key on defense was that he and Stainbrook allowed us to use just one guy each to guard Smith-Rivera and Josh Smith, and that kept anyone else from Georgetown from going off. We were able to hold those two to average games and they didn't have another guy who could beat us one-on-one. That’s probably why, as someone else pointed out, Smith-Rivera’s assist/turnover numbers were not normal- we didn’t have to commit a second guy to him, giving him an outlet to pass to.

I thought the big key in the game was not forcing Randolph into the PG role after Dee Davis picked up his third foul. Mack had confidence in Myles Davis and Abell to run things and we went on a run after Georgetown had cut it to 2.

[chico]

The defensive effort against DSR was very good. I didn't have a problem with it at all. It wasn't Stanley Burrell good, but it was certainly better than average.

[smileyy]

It wasn't Stanley Burrell good, but it was certainly better than average.

On the other hand, its coming from a second year overall player in his 12th(?) game in the program.

[bleedXblue]

Farr and Reynolds were outstanding. You get both those guys playing consistently well and we are a completely different team.

[Masterofreality]

The defensive effort against DSR was very good. I didn't have a problem with it at all. It wasn't Stanley Burrell good, but it was certainly better than average.

Lest no one forget that DSR got two gift points on the Jalen Reynolds tech.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I successfully DVR'd it and watched it this morning, without knowing anything about the outcome, since I was at a wedding last night. Loved it, a lot of great things. Reynolds was a beast. We needed to start off with a victory in Big East play, especially at home, and we got that done.

[xu82]

I successfully DVR'd it and watched it this morning, without knowing anything about the outcome, since I was at a wedding last night. Loved it, a lot of great things. Reynolds was a beast. We needed to start off with a victory in Big East play, especially at home, and we got that done.

Congrats on staying in the dark - I always seem to blow that somehow! Turn on the TV which happens to be on ESPN and they blurt out a score, someone texts me, all different types of failure. I was hoping for a win, but I didn't expect a ROMP. What fun! Now, can we repeat on the road?

[Musketeer_15]

Several people mentioned how they thought the crowd was good but I thought last year's game on NYE against St Johns had a much better crowd. It might have been the consistent whistles in the second half that kept the fast pace and explosive offense from letting the crowd go off. All in all, I was extremely impressed with the way the game went. Macura and Bluiett combined for 4 pts but that doesn't show what the two of them really did. Macura had that phenomenal offensive rebound in the first half that really brought energy to the team and crowd. Bluiett played well defensively on his freshman counterpart LJ Peak. Having the two of them out there together or just one allows for us to spread out the floor significantly, especially with Farr out there. Speaking of Farr, that man deserves a lot of credit for the win last night. He got the offense going to start the game and played phenomenally on defense.

[bobbiemcgee]

I watched both on TV, and from that perspective, last night's atmosphere seemed much more charged, but maybe I was was just more pumped up for this game. The ground swell @ 3:00 plus minutes was impressive.

[DC Muskie]

Yeah, stats don't lie. 7 of DSR's points were from the line- 2 of those were from a questionable foul call on Remy on a drive. That leaves only 11 from the field. He only had 9 shots. He had 18 shots against Indiana and scored 29. For you to minimize Abell's effort is what is laughable. There were also some of Smith's baskets that didn't come against Remy because he was on the bench resting. Macura and Myles Davis guarded him at times and DSR shredded Macura. When Remy was on him, he shut his ass down.

And here's another stat that doesn't lie- 70-53 Xavier.

Here's the thing. All I was doing was making fun of your stupid line about the definition of "lockdown defense." The guy shot 55% from the field. I guess all of that was not on remy.

Jesus MOR, it's stupid suggestion that since the guy only scored off nine shots, and from the foul line that he was somehow "shut down." I guess Tu was shut down most of his career. That guy lived off the line.

DSR had a good game. Not great, or excellent, or the definition of whatever it is you can pull out of your ass. Remy played well, not great, not lockdown, and certainly not taking anything away from winning this game. It was a great team effort on all fronts.

[GoMuskies]

The definition of lockdown was already taken anyway. It's what Jason Love did against Michael Beasley on New Year's Eve at Riverfront Coliseum.

[DC Muskie]

The defensive effort against DSR was very good. I didn't have a problem with it at all. It wasn't Stanley Burrell good, but it was certainly better than average.

Exactly. How hard is it to compliment a kid, without making it sound like it was the "textbook definition of lockdown defense", which it wasn't when the guy ended up being the freaking leading scorer in the game and scored above his average?

[X-band '01]

The definition of lockdown was already taken anyway. It's what Jason Love did against Michael Beasley on New Year's Eve at Riverfront Coliseum.

And Frank Martin has been angry ever since that game.

[Masterofreality]

Here's the thing. All I was doing was making fun of your stupid line about the definition of "lockdown defense." The guy shot 55% from the field. I guess all of that was not on remy.

Jesus MOR, it's stupid suggestion that since the guy only scored off nine shots, and from the foul line that he was somehow "shut down." I guess Tu was shut down most of his career. That guy lived off the line.

DSR had a good game. Not great, or excellent, or the definition of whatever it is you can pull out of your ass. Remy played well, not great, not lockdown, and certainly not taking anything away from winning this game. It was a great team effort on all fronts.

Well, you just keep creating an argument where there really isn't one. Chris Mack, you know, the head coach who knows some things, mentioned how great Remy Abell's defense on DSR was - not once but TWICE in his post game presser.

When Remy Abell was guarding Smith-Rivera he had him covered. Just keep yelling at the world DC. Just don't get hoarse doing it. I'll need you to yell WITH me when I'm at the GTown game in Washington later this year.

Keep your blood pressure down, son. I'm worried about you.

[RealDeal]

We all want to believe these guys are sick. Bottom line is everybody is sick.

No idea what the hell this is supposed to mean.

[xu82]

No idea what the hell this is supposed to mean.

If you don't know, just stay away - you might catch it!

[sirthought]

I went to the game and had a great time. Champagne at midnight. A few thoughts:
I won't rehash all of the great points already mentioned.


- I really wish Chris Mack would act as animated during games as he did last night. I feel teams reflect the energy of their coach and he's far too calm much of the time. I don't expect him to be a hot head or an ass, but seeing him get into it really seemed to motivate his players and the fans. It works for him.

- I'm usually down on James Farr because of 3 point attempts, but damn he is winning me over with the effort on rebounds. Hopefully a sign that he realises rebounding is how he helps his team win.

- JP Macura continues to display an abundance of confidence and I love it. The hustle on this young man's defense last night was as impressive as some of his scoring explosions in earlier games. Let's hope he's starting to "get it" on defense. I still prefer Myles on the court for defense, but JP made some great plays last night.

- XU played with heart. My feeling is that Georgetown's players are a little bit more physically imposing that XU's players across the board. That's not everything, but they do have a few really talented guys out there. And GU passes the ball MUCH better than XU overall. XU just hustled on team defense. That sort of effort will take them far this season.

[DC Muskie]

Well, you just keep creating an argument where there really isn't one. Chris Mack, you know, the head coach who knows some things, mentioned how great Remy Abell's defense on DSR was - not once but TWICE in his post game presser.

When Remy Abell was guarding Smith-Rivera he had him covered. Just keep yelling at the world DC. Just don't get hoarse doing it. I'll need you to yell WITH me when I'm at the GTown game in Washington later this year.

Keep your blood pressure down, son. I'm worried about you.

Webster's definition of missing the point:

"MOR on Trying to define "Lock-down defense", January 1st, 2015."

[drudy23]

We're a known commodity at home. Not sure why people think this was an upset and are surprised by our play.

The key is finding that swagger on the road...it's the key to the season.

[UCGRAD4X]

We're a known commodity at home. Not sure why people think this was an upset and are surprised by our play.

The key is finding that swagger on the road...it's the key to the season.

Xavier is something like 7-3 all time vs G'town. Not an upset, necessarily, but when a 4-6 point spread turns into a 17 point victory - especially for a young team just starting to find their identity, a pleasant surprise and a great way to ring in the new year.

Just a lot of fun, and sure as hell beats the alternative.

Enjoy the positive energy and let it ride!

[XU 87]

The defensive effort against DSR was very good. I didn't have a problem with it at all. It wasn't Stanley Burrell good, but it was certainly better than average.

I also thought the defense was on DSR was really good. Besides getting 2 points off the technical, he also banked in a three in the first half. I didn't think he got a lot of good looks at the basket. He is very talented and made some tough shots. In the second half after he would make a basket, I would think, "Wow, that was a tough shot he made."

I was at a Moeller coaching clinic earlier this year. (Yes, Moeller). I was watching one of the group sessions on zone defense and the coach made a comment when defending against a particular situation- "We're trying to force the other player to shoot the shot from around here at this angle, which is a tough shot to make. If he can make that shot, well, good for him. Sometimes players make tough shots. But the purpose of our defense is to force the other team to shoot lower percentage shots. If they make them, they make them."

[SpectorJersey]

I think the fact that DSR only took 9 shots was the stat that stuck out the most. Kind of reminded me of when X played Eric Gordon and IU in Chicago, Gordon still got his points but it was a tough go at it and we didnt give him too many good looks. DSR still had 18 but I dont think he had more than 1 or 2 easy buckets plus he banked a 3 in. Also, there wasnt any type of avalanche of points he put up that got Gtown going.

[Masterofreality]

Webster's definition of missing the point:

"MOR on Trying to define "Lock-down defense", January 1st, 2015."

Ok. Since you won't stop your infernal yapping, I went back and did a Coach's breakdown on the tape. Do you know how many points that Rivera scored off Abell on a set offense including free throws resulting from an Abell foul? 5. That's FIVE freaking points- 3 of which were frees and only 1 FG that was forced and well defended by Abell with about 5:15 to go in the game when Xavier had built a 13 point lead.

Here's the breakdown:
1st Half: 3 pointer vs Dee Davis. Abell not on floor. 2 vs Myles Davis. Abell not on floor.2 FT's from foul on DDavis. Abell not on floor. First Half for DSR- 7 points - ZERO when Abell was on the floor.
2nd Half: 2 on a transition break after a steal from Stainbrook. Abell was on floor but steal was too clean to defend. 2 on an under basket Out of Bounds play where Abell got picked by Smith and no one switched in time. 2 FT's after a foul on Abell. 2 on Tech FT's after Reynolds tech. 2 on a jumper over Abell that was well defended- Give DSR credit. 1 FT after foul on Abell. Second half total- 11 points, only 5 of which can be directly attributed to Abell give-ups in half court defense. 18 points total for Rivera. 9 FG shots- ONLY 1 that was shot over Abell.

Yeah, THAT is LOCKDOWN DEFENSE, my friend against a guy who scored 29 each in games vs Wisconsin and Indiana. You just go ahead and flap your keyboard and minimize a superb job done by Remy Abell.

My point is proven. I'm done here, but I would suppose you are not.

[xuinmd]

Also he neglected to call bank on his three

[UCGRAD4X]

Also he neglected to call bank on his three

Hereby officially waved-off!

What else can we delete?

[XU 87]

Ok. Since you won't stop your infernal yapping, I went back and did a Coach's breakdown on the tape. Do you know how many points that Rivera scored off Abell on a set offense including free throws resulting from an Abell foul? 5. That's FIVE freaking points- 3 of which were frees and only 1 FG that was forced and well defended by Abell with about 5:15 to go in the game when Xavier had built a 13 point lead.

Here's the breakdown:
1st Half: 3 pointer vs Dee Davis. Abell not on floor. 2 vs Myles Davis. Abell not on floor.2 FT's from foul on DDavis. Abell not on floor. First Half for DSR- 7 points - ZERO when Abell was on the floor.
2nd Half: 2 on a transition break after a steal from Stainbrook. Abell was on floor but steal was too clean to defend. 2 on an under basket Out of Bounds play where Abell got picked by Smith and no one switched in time. 2 FT's after a foul on Abell. 2 on Tech FT's after Reynolds tech. 2 on a jumper over Abell that was well defended- Give DSR credit. 1 FT after foul on Abell. Second half total- 11 points, only 5 of which can be directly attributed to Abell give-ups in half court defense. 18 points total for Rivera. 9 FG shots- ONLY 1 that was shot over Abell.

Yeah, THAT is LOCKDOWN DEFENSE, my friend against a guy who scored 29 each in games vs Wisconsin and Indiana. You just go ahead and flap your keyboard and minimize a superb job done by Remy Abell.

My point is proven. I'm done here, but I would suppose you are not.

Maybe Dee should have played better defense when DSR banked in that three.

The short jump shot DSR made after the steal in the second half was really a great play. DSR was flying up the court, stopped on a dime, immediately got himself completely under control and nailed the shot.

DSR is really good.

[LA Muskie]

I do believe DC has been lawyered.

[DC Muskie]

Ok. Since you won't stop your infernal yapping, I went back and did a Coach's breakdown on the tape. Do you know how many points that Rivera scored off Abell on a set offense including free throws resulting from an Abell foul? 5. That's FIVE freaking points- 3 of which were frees and only 1 FG that was forced and well defended by Abell with about 5:15 to go in the game when Xavier had built a 13 point lead.

Here's the breakdown:
1st Half: 3 pointer vs Dee Davis. Abell not on floor. 2 vs Myles Davis. Abell not on floor.2 FT's from foul on DDavis. Abell not on floor. First Half for DSR- 7 points - ZERO when Abell was on the floor.
2nd Half: 2 on a transition break after a steal from Stainbrook. Abell was on floor but steal was too clean to defend. 2 on an under basket Out of Bounds play where Abell got picked by Smith and no one switched in time. 2 FT's after a foul on Abell. 2 on Tech FT's after Reynolds tech. 2 on a jumper over Abell that was well defended- Give DSR credit. 1 FT after foul on Abell. Second half total- 11 points, only 5 of which can be directly attributed to Abell give-ups in half court defense. 18 points total for Rivera. 9 FG shots- ONLY 1 that was shot over Abell.

Yeah, THAT is LOCKDOWN DEFENSE, my friend against a guy who scored 29 each in games vs Wisconsin and Indiana. You just go ahead and flap your keyboard and minimize a superb job done by Remy Abell.

My point is proven. I'm done here, but I would suppose you are not.

Man, I pissed you off so much, that you went back and tracked everything. Wow, that might be the text book definition of taking yourself waay too seriously. Thank God you are done, because this argument is just as silly as the prospect of bragging about lockdown defense on a leading scorer of the game who scored above his average.

[Masterofreality]

Man, I pissed you off so much, that you went back and tracked everything. Wow, that might be the text book definition of taking yourself waay too seriously. Thank God you are done, because this argument is just as silly as the prospect of bragging about lockdown defense on a leading scorer of the game who scored above his average.

I don't get mad, I get factual in the face of, in your own words - silly arguments- especially when the perpetrator of said argument claims that I "pulled stuff out of my ass" and was making "stupid statements." And just who is taking themselves too seriously?

Amazing how facts win a debate against someone who just wants to aimlessly yell and create controversy- all the while when that same someone is also demeaning a great defensive effort by one of our Xavier players.

I'm disappointed in you brother. That's the weakest response I've ever seen you have on this board. I expect better from you next time.

[nuts4xu]

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[DC Muskie]

I don't get mad, I get factual in the face of, in your own words - silly arguments- especially when the perpetrator of said argument claims that I "pulled stuff out of my ass" and was making "stupid statements." And just who is taking themselves too seriously?

Amazing how facts win a debate against someone who just wants to aimlessly yell and create controversy- all the while when that same someone is also demeaning a great defensive effort by one of our Xavier players.

I'm disappointed in you brother. That's the weakest response I've ever seen you have on this board. I expect better from you next time.

What? I thought you were done. I love it when people say they are done, and then come back. I guess you're not done.

You got mad bro. You took time out of your day just to try and prove me wrong. That's the text book definition of getting mad. You got up this morning, and spent your entire day looking for stuff and thinking about me all day. You're still mad. All I said was I found your statement funny. Heck even a few people agreed with me. And yet, you had to show me how your silly, stupid post was in fact correct.

Remy did a good job, said that all along. You got mad, and now accusing me of demeaning the kid, because I simply disagree with your hyperbole. Have a beer, and look up the definition of relaxing.

I don't yell and create arguments. Seriously. I merely disagreed. DSR still ended up having a good game didn't he? Or do you simply characterize everything with extreme viewpoints?

[Xavier]

Eh, pretty clear MOR was right- when Abell was on him he played great D on him. Its like if player A guarded LBJ in the 4th and essentially locked him down- you would point to LBJs first three quarters as proof as to why player A didn't lock him down.

[DC Muskie]

Eh, pretty clear MOR was right- when Abell was on him he played great D on him. Its like if player A guarded LBJ in the 4th and essentially locked him down- you would point to LBJs first three quarters as proof as to why player A didn't lock him down.

I actually watched the entire game and thought the entire team did a great job.

Maybe MOR could spend tomorrow breaking down the game tape of Indiana and Wisconsin and see if DSR was guarded simply by one person when he scored more points, which is the example he likes to use.

As someone else on this thread mentioned, it wasn't a Stanley Burrell performance.

[XU Cowbell Kid]

Eh, pretty clear MOR was right- when Abell was on him he played great D on him. Its like if player A guarded LBJ in the 4th and essentially locked him down- you would point to LBJs first three quarters as proof as to why player A didn't lock him down.

I was unaware that our 36th president, Lyndon Baines Johnson, was that big of a scoring threat on the court.

That being said, I think MOR has you on this one DC. The conversation was entirely about Remy's defense, not DSR's performance. DSR had a good game, but was not productive when Remy was guarding him - and that is the key takeaway. Remy played great defense. Lock down, if you will.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I havent even seen where the argument started or what its entirety entailed so I have no opinion on who was right but one thing I think is funny is that MOR could be completely lying (I'm sure he isnt) and no one would be able to say anything otherwise because no one else is going to go back and look through the entire game too see how many points DSR got when Remy was guarding him.

On a related side note, I thought we played well defensively as a team.

[DC Muskie]

I was unaware that our 36th president, Lyndon Baines Johnson, was that big of a scoring threat on the court.

That being said, I think MOR has you on this one DC. The conversation was entirely about Remy's defense, not DSR's performance. DSR had a good game, but was not productive when Remy was guarding him - and that is the key takeaway. Remy played great defense. Lock down, if you will.

Well I guess all I can say is that I wish Remy guarded him all game and then DSR could have had a terrible game where he shot below 55% from the field and scored below his average. I put that on Mack.

It really was a great team defensive effort.

[sweet16]

especially when the perpetrator of said argument claims that I "pulled stuff out of my ass"

To be fair, you do have a reputation as someone who does "pull stuff out of your ass" or simply makes stuff up so I can kinda' see his point.