Northwood Roll Call

[Muskie]

I'm in. Also my tickets say 8pm but sportstacular app says 7pm. Just a heads up that the time may be wrong on some apps.


Who's in?

[XUBob]

I'm in

[Fireball]

I'll be there with both of my daughters. We're all excited for the season to start!

[vee4xu]

I'll be engrossed in tOSU vs. MSU tonight. That game means something to me, while the X game is a scrimmage.

[Frambo]

HS football playoffs.....wish I could see both! XUBob send me updates!

[coasterville95]

I'm All IN! Let's get this party started.

Let's go X!

[bigdiggins]

Making it happen in 208 as usual.

[WhiteOakX]

My 4 seats will have butts in them, including mine, can't wait, bring it on!

[BBC 08]

Making the drive up from Louisville with my dad. Will be in the usual seats in 202.

[XUMIOH12]

I'm going to the game....missing out on some big football games, but there's nothing better than Xavier basketball.

[94GRAD]

I'm going to the game....missing out on some big football games, but there's nothing better than Xavier basketball.

THIS, and I'm in.

[Retire33]

Starting my plight to get the blue hairs loud and rowdy. First game in new seats within Section 104 coming down from 206. Hide your children, hide your wife. Let's get this thing started.


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[coasterville95]

Welcome to our section. 2.75 hours till tip.

[Muskie]

I'm finishing up Currito. The new book store at Xavier Station is a great addition.

[coasterville95]

1524😞

New location for big east banners and and new overlay on the banquet room windows.

[coasterville95]

More improvements.
1525
Video menu boards at concession. Dynamic pricing anyone? Note combo meals and the large $6 soda offers refill.

1526
Electronic split the pot raffle. Prices and tickets look just like what the Reds use.

1527
Of course all update threads must include new court.

1528
Are those Mack and Pope fatheads I spy.

[bjf123]

Present. Section 105.


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[Muskie]

I'm in 101

[bjf123]

1524😞

New location for big east banners and and new overlay on the banquet room windows.

I like the new location for the league banners. Once league play starts, they should put them in order of the standings, not alphabetically.


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[Muskie]

Good student turnout

[Muskie]

Blueitt, Farr, Stainbrook, Randolph, Davis = starters

[coasterville95]

11-7 at first media break.

[coasterville95]

So the free throw sword sounder is apparently now chimes.

[coasterville95]

22-13 X. 11;57 1st.

[coasterville95]

Refs have shiney new whistles and are dying to use them.

[coasterville95]

30-23 x 6:43.

[Muskie]

Yeah I don't dig the ft chimes.

[coasterville95]

37-29 x 3:17

[coasterville95]

Can we have the organ they had here for the Cavs.

[coasterville95]

Halftime. 47-32. Great scoring drive to end the half.

[Muskie1000]

Yeah I don't dig the ft chimes.

It's got to be better than that sword. That would send chills down my spine.

[Muskie]

Yours truly to play the pnc challenge.

[coasterville95]

60-43 with 13:54 left. Northwood just fouled out a man already.

[coasterville95]

Yo can have the pnc challenge. I'll take the all for one raffle prize. :).

[coasterville95]

And he gets a bag of vendor crap and a chance at tickets to a game.

[Muskie]

And he gets a bag of vendor crap and a chance at tickets to a game.

I'm two for two. Would have preferred to win the half and half.

[coasterville95]

Northwood fouls out another. Still 9:18 left! 81-54

[ballyhoohoo]

I'm two for two. Would have preferred to win the half and half.

Mrs Muskie needs to venture up to my seats and meet my brothers fiancé

[bobbiemcgee]

Xavier Gameday @XavierGameday · 3m 3 minutes ago

Xavier is shooting 73.9% from the field in the 2nd half #XUStat

Xavier Gameday @XavierGameday · 6m 6 minutes ago

Xavier is shooting 20-21 from the free throw line so far tonight. #XUStat

[coasterville95]

2 minute warning. 99-64

[MADXSTER]

Northwood's freethrow defense is horrendous.

[bobbiemcgee]

Looks like Air London getting some flushes.

[coasterville95]

1 minute. 101-66. I hope we can pull this off.

And the Muskies out scored the Cavs in this building.

[coasterville95]

Your final. 102-68

[Fireball]

Good showing from our guys. Quick thoughts from a very untrained eye:

I liked what I saw out of Austin and O'Mara. Larry definitely has a bit of the razzle-dazzle and made some very nice passes, along with some turnovers.
Randolph needs to learn how to pass the ball. Too many times taking the ball to the hoop for a contested shot when a guy was open.
Blueitt is the real deal. Going to be lots of fun watching that kid play.
Reynolds is a beast and is primed for an awesome year.
Defense is going to be an issue. At least early. Hopefully they figure it out by the time conference season rolls around.
The free throw shooting was REALLY encouraging. Especially after the last couple years.

[Muskie]

Randolph got a ton of minutes last night (at least it seemed like it).

[TUclutch]

22 I believe. Bluiett and Abell led with 23 minutes

[bjf123]

We definitely have guys who can score. I agree that defense will be a concern, especially early on.


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[XUFan09]

I would wager that this team will rank a least 10-15 spots higher in offensive efficiency than in defensive efficiency on Kenpom this season.

[TUclutch]

I think some of you are underestimating the defense a bit. Yes, some of the freshman might struggle at points. As for the non-freshman, Im not worried about defense coming from Stain, Reynolds, Randolph, Dee, or Remy. Slight issue with Myles, and a concern from Farr.

[LA Muskie]

I think some of you are underestimating the defense a bit. Yes, some of the freshman might struggle at points. As for the non-freshman, Im not worried about defense coming from Stain, Reynolds, Randolph, Dee, or Remy. Slight issue with Myles, and a concern from Farr.
I don't think anyone's underestimating it. Nobody's saying we'll be BAD defensively. They're just saying we'll be a work in progress early in the season. Seems pretty spot-on to me.

[bleedXblue]

Last night was an exhibition against a D2 team. Not much you can really take from that. Good or bad.

[drudy23]

This year's incoming class doesn't look lost...others have. Blueitt looks like he belongs now. The other freshman look very sure of themselves...thats a very good sign to me.

[Masterofreality]

Randolph got a ton of minutes last night (at least it seemed like it).

I understand that Muskie got some big board face time and that he was able to decipher the always challenging "Shell Game" .

Well done Counselor!

[bigdiggins]

Not enough cheese with the nachos. That was my takeaway. And the new all for one store is impressive.

[XU 87]

This year's incoming class doesn't look lost...others have. Blueitt looks like he belongs now. The other freshman look very sure of themselves...thats a very good sign to me.

I agree with you. Although it's only one exhibition game, unlike some previous years, I didn't see any freshmen who left me thinking, "Why did they recruit him?". It's looks like all the freshmen can play.

[Xville]

it was fun to see the new team play against someone other than themselves even if the competition was not all that great. Just a couple of observations from me on a few of the new guys...Remy has one of the ugliest strokes I have ever seen, but if it goes in more times than not, then it doesn't matter. I am excited on what he is going to do for us this year. Blueitt..I can't really say anything outside of what has already been said about him. The guy is legit....not the most athletic guy in the world but seems to have a great feel for the game and his frame is impressive for a freshman. I know that at one time, he was considered a little um "fluffy" but that has disappeared. Lastly, O'Mara could be a great get for us. The guy seems to have a great motor, and I think he is going to be able to spare both Stain and Reynolds admirably.

I really like the look of this team. I'm sure it has happened recently, but I can't remember the last time that we had 4 legit 6-9 or 6-10 guys that are going to be able to contribute.

[XU 87]

O'Mara is a big guy. His legs look like tree trunks. Defensively, he's not going to get pushed under the basket.

[muskiefan82]

Abell and Reynolds off the bench. That says a lot to me. Also good to see Myles Davis knock one down from 3. It looks like we have a couple of shooters on this team. Should be an interesting year. I am a little happier with the less challenging tournament now so these kids can grow together more, but there is real talent out there.

[Muskie]

I had the most fun looking at the "information" on the roster. O'Mara and Stainbrook are apparently the same height, but according to the roster distributed, Stainbrook has 35 pounds on O'Mara. Not from what I saw.

Also Nothwood had a guy listed as 5'7 (under the Bobby Knight theory of lineup height, I suspect he was closer to 5'5). Kid was good though and apparently played decent at USC last season.

[XU 87]

I thought Stainbrook was about two inches taller than O'Mara.

If it's the same guy, the 5'5" guy drove past our guys a lot. I thought the dribble penetration defense was spotty at times.

What did you guys think of Randolph? Much more aggressive than last year, but he didn't score.

[bleedXblue]

I thought Stainbrook was about two inches taller than O'Mara.

If it's the same guy, the 5'5" guy drove past our guys a lot. I thought the dribble penetration defense was spotty at times.

What did you guys think of Randolph? Much more aggressive than last year, but he didn't score.

I think Stain is marginally taller than O'Mara. Maybe an inch or so. I think the frosh's mobility is better.

Randolph does look more confident....he has to convert when given the opportunity.

[mistabeecee41]

I think Stain is marginally taller than O'Mara. Maybe an inch or so. I think the frosh's mobility is better.

Randolph does look more confident....he has to convert when given the opportunity.

Would much rather see over-confident Randolph than the unsure Randolph we saw 75% of last year.

[PMI]

Would much rather see over-confident Randolph than the unsure Randolph we saw 75% of last year.

Agreed. I imagine that an overconfident Randolph might be a bit like a younger Mark Lyons, where we deal with some frustration and aggressive mistakes, but also some playmaking and scoring. I would definitely take that over the timid play we saw many times last year.

[Xville]

I am assuming that our starting lineup for game one is going to look like this:

PG- Davis
SG- Remy
SF: Trevon
PF: Reynolds
C: Stainbrook

Has anyone heard anything to believe that that is not going to be the case? I am guessing that others in the regular rotation for a while will be Macura, O'Mara, Randolph, Farr, Myles D, and then either Larry or Sumner (depending if he gets healthy). I'm pretty surprised at this point that no one has been red-shirted...anyone else find that to be a little odd this close to the first real game?

[Juice]

I am assuming that our starting lineup for game one is going to look like this:

PG- Davis
SG- Remy
SF: Trevon
PF: Reynolds
C: Stainbrook

Has anyone heard anything to believe that that is not going to be the case? I am guessing that others in the regular rotation for a while will be Macura, O'Mara, Randolph, Farr, Myles D, and then either Larry or Sumner (depending if he gets healthy). I'm pretty surprised at this point that no one has been red-shirted...anyone else find that to be a little odd this close to the first real game?

Yes, I wouldn't be surprised to see Myles at SG over Remy.

[Chalmers0]

I am assuming that our starting lineup for game one is going to look like this:

PG- Davis
SG- Remy
SF: Trevon
PF: Reynolds
C: Stainbrook

Has anyone heard anything to believe that that is not going to be the case? I am guessing that others in the regular rotation for a while will be Macura, O'Mara, Randolph, Farr, Myles D, and then either Larry or Sumner (depending if he gets healthy). I'm pretty surprised at this point that no one has been red-shirted...anyone else find that to be a little odd this close to the first real game?

Myles will most likely be starting over Remy at the 2

I still think Makinde will be redshirted, no real reason to announce it this early though

[nuts4xu]

I'm pretty surprised at this point that no one has been red-shirted...anyone else find that to be a little odd this close to the first real game?

Teams don't "declare" a red shirt at the beginning of the season, as they once did. If any of these players plays one minute of in season basketball, they are ineligible to red shirt. Coach Mack will wait and see, and if a player goes through the season without playing...he will redshirt. I know we look deep now, but strange things can happen that suddenly increase the need for our 12th or 13th player.

So no, I am not surprised in the least to hear we haven't decided to RS anyone. We may have had some discussions with some of our guys, but there is no need to make that decision right now.

[XU 87]

I am assuming that our starting lineup for game one is going to look like this:

PG- Davis
SG- Remy
SF: Trevon
PF: Reynolds
C: Stainbrook



Your starting lineup is what I was expecting to see on this past Saturday. I read somewhere that Reynolds was in the doghouse for an awful game in the scrimmage the week before. So that may explain why he didn't start. But I don't know about Randolph. Maybe he has been the top 2 guard in practice.

And anyone have thoughts about Dee Davis? I still think he's going to struggle again in various games this year. And he's still looks like he takes forever to get his outside shot off.

[Xville]

Teams don't "declare" a red shirt at the beginning of the season, as they once did. If any of these players plays one minute of in season basketball, they are ineligible to red shirt. Coach Mack will wait and see, and if a player goes through the season without playing...he will redshirt. I know we look deep now, but strange things can happen that suddenly increase the need for our 12th or 13th player.

So no, I am not surprised in the least to hear we haven't decided to RS anyone. We may have had some discussions with some of our guys, but there is no need to make that decision right now.

Can't you do the opposite though? Or did I just make that up..i mean to me the opposite would make more sense. Let's just hypothetically say London is the odd man out and Mack goes ahead and red shirts him...however circumstances change for one reason or another...can't he then pull his redshirt?

Can you really go thru an entire season, not play, and then declare a red shirt year? That doesn't seem right to me, but again I may be wrong.

[LA Muskie]

Teams don't "declare" a red shirt at the beginning of the season, as they once did. If any of these players plays one minute of in season basketball, they are ineligible to red shirt. Coach Mack will wait and see, and if a player goes through the season without playing...he will redshirt. I know we look deep now, but strange things can happen that suddenly increase the need for our 12th or 13th player.

So no, I am not surprised in the least to hear we haven't decided to RS anyone. We may have had some discussions with some of our guys, but there is no need to make that decision right now.
This is mostly true, but generally there is a discussion with the player at the start of the season so that they understand why they are not playing. And sometimes it's even soft-released so that there is no public pressure on the kid. I expect to see London redshirt. And I think there's a reasonably good chance Sumner does as well, since he will essentially have missed the entire preseason at this point. (Word is that he may start practicing today.)

[LA Muskie]

I am assuming that our starting lineup for game one is going to look like this:

PG- Davis
SG- Remy
SF: Trevon
PF: Reynolds
C: Stainbrook

Has anyone heard anything to believe that that is not going to be the case? I am guessing that others in the regular rotation for a while will be Macura, O'Mara, Randolph, Farr, Myles D, and then either Larry or Sumner (depending if he gets healthy). I'm pretty surprised at this point that no one has been red-shirted...anyone else find that to be a little odd this close to the first real game?

Substitute Myles Davis for Remy and I think you have it right. But I'm curious about the starting lineup for Saturday night's game. Were a few players in the doghouse? Was Chris rewarding Randolph and Farr for good weeks at practice? Was Chris testing out some guys/lineups? Inquiring minds want to know...

[LA Muskie]

Can't you do the opposite though? Or did I just make that up..i mean to me the opposite would make more sense. Let's just hypothetically say London is the odd man out and Mack goes ahead and red shirts him...however circumstances change for one reason or another...can't he then pull his redshirt?

Can you really go thru an entire season, not play, and then declare a red shirt year? That doesn't seem right to me, but again I may be wrong.
Yes. There is no paperwork filed with the NCAA. You have 5 years to play 4. If you don't set foot on the court, it doesn't count against your 4. The "redshirt" doesn't even have to be in the 1st year. It's just a year of not competing anywhere in that 5-year eligibility period.

[LA Muskie]

And anyone have thoughts about Dee Davis? I still think he's going to struggle again in various games this year. And he's still looks like he takes forever to get his outside shot off.
The only thing I'm concerned about with Dee Davis is whether he leads the league in assists. With the offensive weapons this team has, his slow release is just about the last thing I'm worried about.

[Xville]

Your starting lineup is what I was expecting to see on this past Saturday. I read somewhere that Reynolds was in the doghouse for an awful game in the scrimmage the week before. So that may explain why he didn't start. But I don't know about Randolph. Maybe he has been the top 2 guard in practice.

And anyone have thoughts about Dee Davis? I still think he's going to struggle again in various games this year. And he's still looks like he takes forever to get his outside shot off.

i think Dee is what he is at this point. He's fine, he's ok i guess. He isn't a dynamic playmaker, and i don't think he really makes anyone better. However, for right now, he is the best we have in terms of running the point. It is my opinion though that for this team to be "special" it is going to take either Randolph or one of the freshman to supplant him in the starting lineup...either that or the light finally turns on for Dee in his senior season, something that seems to happen during senior year for a lot of Xavier players in the past.

[XU 87]

The only thing I'm concerned about with Dee Davis is whether he leads the league in assists. With the offensive weapons this team has, his slow release is just about the last thing I'm worried about.

Not me. I want guards who can shoot threes. A team is at a disadvantage if it has a point guard who can't shoot threes real well playing thirty minutes per game. This is particularly true if the point guard doesn't/can't score in other ways.

Dee isn't a bad three shooter. He just needs a lot of room to get his shot off.

[XU 87]

i think Dee is what he is at this point. He's fine, he's ok i guess. He isn't a dynamic playmaker, and i don't think he really makes anyone better. However, for right now, he is the best we have in terms of running the point. It is my opinion though that for this team to be "special" it is going to take either Randolph or one of the freshman to supplant him in the starting lineup...either that or the light finally turns on for Dee in his senior season, something that seems to happen during senior year for a lot of Xavier players in the past.

I agree with you- it seems he's the best point guard we have right now. I just think he's limited in what he can do and thought the same think after watching him play on Saturday. He's quick but not super quick. He's a good but not great ball handler. Good defender. Decent shooter but has a very slow shot and has had difficulties scoring in the lane. But when you're 5'9", you need to do some things great at this level.

[TUclutch]

Can't you do the opposite though? Or did I just make that up..i mean to me the opposite would make more sense. Let's just hypothetically say London is the odd man out and Mack goes ahead and red shirts him...however circumstances change for one reason or another...can't he then pull his redshirt?

Can you really go thru an entire season, not play, and then declare a red shirt year? That doesn't seem right to me, but again I may be wrong.

It's right. You don't need to declare anything. If a player simply doesn't play for a season, it can be used as a redshirt.

[LA Muskie]

Not me. I want guards who can shoot threes. A team is at a disadvantage if it has a point guard who can't shoot threes real well playing thirty minutes per game. This is particularly true if the point guard doesn't/can't score in other ways.

Dee isn't a bad three shooter. He just needs a lot of room to get his shot off.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love it if Dee was a knock-down shooter as well. That would be better. And I guess if you are looking for faults, his release is one of them. But I just don't think it's going to hurt us all that much. And I think you (and others) are underestimating the rest of what Dee brings to the table. Is he Tu Holloway or Drew Lavender? No. But he'll likely lead the Big East in APG while playing good on-ball defense. It could be a lot worse...

[PMI]

If Dee is taking care of the ball, dishing our assists, and playing his best defense, there is nobody on our roster who is going to surpass him as the starting PG this year. He does have his limitations, but he has the ability to be a pretty good point guard too, and has shown that. Consistency is going to be huge. He seemed to have a few good/really good games followed by a real head scratcher in years past, and I think some of that is attributable to match ups and the play of the guys around him, to be fair. But he's a senior now, and we will need him to be a fairly consistent point who mostly stays away from bad turnovers and makes good decisions. I am fairly bullish on his chances of doing so. Having good shooters around will help any true point guard.

[GoMuskies]

In the "for what it's worth" category (probably not much), Wichita State beat Northwood 112-55.

[Muskie]

In the "for what it's worth" category (probably not much), Wichita State beat Northwood 112-55.

Are you saying Northwood couldn't win the Big East?

[GoMuskies]

Are you saying Northwood couldn't win the Big East?

Yes.

[94GRAD]

Are you saying Northwood couldn't win the Big East?

Or the MVC

[GoMuskies]

I see now that Xavier played the Timberwolves representing Northwood's Michigan campus. Wichita State played the Seahawks, representing Northwood's Florida campus. So in the for what it's worth category, it was literally worth nothing.