Kaiser Gates - 2015 Recruit (Decision At 3PM) [Archive]

casualfan

10-16-2014, 02:23 PM

AllMetroHoops ‏@ehoopsshowcase 12m12 minutes ago
Kaiser Gates announcing his decision at 3pm today, down to Texas Tech, UCF and Xavier. X is heavy favorite but TT has come strong of late

Seems to be coming after a visit to TTU. Not sure if that's good or bad.

Looks to be ranked pretty high, but that is a weird list of finalists.

XU-PA

10-16-2014, 02:25 PM

First one on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSGlEuEyIC0

xu82

10-16-2014, 02:32 PM

Great news! Welcome, sir.

BandAid

10-16-2014, 02:33 PM

Welcome to X Kaiser!

THRILLHOUSE

10-16-2014, 02:40 PM

"@slrussell: Kaiser Gates has family in Middletown and Dayton areas and is the cousin of former #Bearcats player Yancy Gates. #Xavier"

OH.X.MI

10-16-2014, 02:41 PM

Haha is he really Yancy Gates' cousin? The Xavier Popes twitter account claiming he is, but they very well could be joking.

casualfan

10-16-2014, 02:41 PM

Haha is he really Yancy Gates' cousin? The Xavier Popes twitter account claiming he is, but they very well could be joking.

Yes.

As an aside, those guys are jackasses.

OH.X.MI

10-16-2014, 02:44 PM

Yes.

Haha wonder if Nancy will call and congratulate him. But he seems like a great addition! Welcome to Xavier Mr. Yates!

paulxu

10-16-2014, 02:46 PM

When we play sucks, get ready for the Kacie and Karen signs.

Murph85

10-16-2014, 02:49 PM

Texas Tech has Larry Brown remember, and ESPN has him being offered by Missouri, Auburn, UC and Georgia.

Either way a 6' 8 small forward with big upside. I'll take that any day.

GoMuskies

10-16-2014, 02:50 PM

SMU has Larry Brown.

Chalmers0

10-16-2014, 02:50 PM

Texas Tech has Larry Brown remember, and ESPN has him being offered by Missouri, Auburn, UC and Georgia.

Either way a 6' 8 small forward with big upside. I'll take that any day.

Texas Tech has Tubby Smith

casualfan

10-16-2014, 02:52 PM

Texas Tech has Larry Brown remember, and ESPN has him being offered by Missouri, Auburn, UC and Georgia.

Either way a 6' 8 small forward with big upside. I'll take that any day.

Not to nitpick, but Larry Brown is at SMU.

And none of those schools were actively pursuing him. Just like there are lots of players who list Xavier offers that we wouldn't take a commitment from (i.e. Derrick Smits).

Pete Delkus

10-16-2014, 02:52 PM

I think Kenny Frease should welcome him to campus!

Sorry Missouri and Texas Tech...

Kaiser...

AND LIKE THAT....HE'S GONE!

http://mweigel.typepad.com/.a/6a0133ee4ae06a970b0154370e2c78970c-pi

JTG

10-16-2014, 02:55 PM

Does this mean the bookstore will be selling replica blue & white WW I helmets with the spike on top, like Kaiser Wilhelm wore ?

JTG

10-16-2014, 02:56 PM

I think Kenny Frease should welcome him to campus!

Sorry Missouri and Texas Tech...

Kaiser...

AND LIKE THAT....HE'S GONE!

http://mweigel.typepad.com/.a/6a0133ee4ae06a970b0154370e2c78970c-pi

One of my favorite movies....

sirthought

10-16-2014, 02:57 PM

http://youtu.be/mT10xsmIMsQ

casualfan

10-16-2014, 02:58 PM

One of my favorite movies....

That is my favorite movie so even though Mizzou wasn't recruiting him I'll let it slide :whistle:

Pete Delkus

10-16-2014, 03:04 PM

That is my favorite movie so even though Mizzou wasn't recruiting him I'll let it slide :whistle:

Well, what ever....I was just going more for the Usual Suspects thing.

Milhouse

10-16-2014, 03:16 PM

Guys this was Clearly while Mack tweeted #letsgox 1 month ago!!!!

sirthought

10-16-2014, 03:19 PM

http://ontheradarhoops.com/otrhoopsreport-prospect-eval-kaiser-gates-oct-16-2014/

XUGRAD80

10-16-2014, 03:20 PM

I just say welcome and all the best to you. Thanks for choosing X!

ArizonaXUGrad

10-16-2014, 03:26 PM

No kidding, I am sure at 6'8 he creates matchup problems on the wing in High School. Brings out a taller defender to the wing opening up the middle for O-rebounds. 6'8 and a shooter is still a matchup problem in college.

sirthought

10-16-2014, 03:27 PM

This guy looks to have some potential. Needs to get in the weight room and eat a sandwich. :)

I wonder if Mack is going to continue with pulling in these 4 star guys...or might this be insurance in case Bluiett leaves early. I guess I don't care, as long as they work hard while attending Xavier.

Xavier

10-16-2014, 03:39 PM

Yes.

As an aside, those guys are jackasses.

They really are. They seem to think they are still Seniors at Xavier and the majority of the time during basketball season they tweet more about Butler and Dayton than Xavier. I wouldn't be shocked if they don't have full time jobs. Within minutes of Gates committing they have tons of pictures of him and making weird faces. Think it may be time for them to move on and grow up.

Milhouse

10-16-2014, 03:42 PM

They really are. They seem to think they are still Seniors at Xavier and the majority of the time during basketball season they tweet more about Butler and Dayton than Xavier. I wouldn't be shocked if they don't have full time jobs. Within minutes of Gates committing they have tons of pictures of him and making weird faces. Think it may be time for them to move on and grow up.

Knew the guys in college. Can confirm jackasses that no one liked.

Masterofreality

10-16-2014, 03:57 PM

Yes.

As an aside, those guys are jackasses.

Whoever has taken over that Twitter Account is a total Jack-Ass. I don't think that a couple of them are even still involved. If I was them I'd demand the damn account be deleted.

But Welcome Mr. Gates, and I'm glad your name does not rhyme with Yancey.

BTW. The Yellow Toothed Gnome must not have very long coattails if he can't work with former player's family members.

Uh, of course. NOTHING is long about YTG.

BMoreX

10-16-2014, 04:25 PM

Those guys have always been jackasses who steal people's jokes and post them as their own.

That's Rovell-level shit.

casualfan

10-16-2014, 04:32 PM

Whoever has taken over that Twitter Account is a total Jack-Ass. I don't think that a couple of them are even still involved. If I was them I'd demand the damn account be deleted.

But Welcome Mr. Gates, and I'm glad your name does not rhyme with Yancey.

BTW. The Yellow Toothed Gnome must not have very long coattails if he can't work with former player's family members.

Uh, of course. NOTHING is long about YTG.

UC decided to take a different combo forward which ended their interest in Kaiser.

Will be interesting to watch both develop in college and see who came out ahead.

PMI

10-16-2014, 04:55 PM

I like it. Lot of upside and a very natural and smooth offensive game. Another big guy who can play (read guard) multiple positions, shoot, handle and pass well... I'll take it. I also think he had a high upside on defense which would be crucial given that our current wings aren't lockdown defenders. We are going to be a really big, long and athletic team over the next few years.

sirthought

10-16-2014, 05:12 PM

Whoever has taken over that Twitter Account is a total Jack-Ass. I don't think that a couple of them are even still involved. If I was them I'd demand the damn account be deleted.

But Welcome Mr. Gates, and I'm glad your name does not rhyme with Yancey.

BTW. The Yellow Toothed Gnome must not have very long coattails if he can't work with former player's family members.

Uh, of course. NOTHING is long about YTG.

UC got another 4 star commit. Not nearly the same size, but a promising get none-the-less. http://sports.yahoo.com/cincinnati/basketball/recruiting/player-Jacob-Evans-163755

They are also after Derrick Jones, along with XU.

Jehoya

10-16-2014, 05:24 PM

Knew the guys in college. Can confirm jackasses that no one liked.

+1

Can say the exact same thing, knew them in college, total douchebags that no one liked

OH.X.MI

10-16-2014, 05:40 PM

Knew the guys in college. Can confirm jackasses that no one liked.

As did I. Jackass is quite honestly a mild term for them. Follow them on twitter as a running joke with some friends from school.

NY44

10-16-2014, 06:01 PM

+1

Can say the exact same thing, knew them in college, total douchebags that no one liked

100% I think most non-student fans like them and what they do, but. I didn't know a student who did.

xu82

10-16-2014, 06:08 PM

Very happy to have Kaiser Gates coming on board!

(I think that's the point, but I don't know what jerks you're talking about.)

Masterofreality

10-16-2014, 06:33 PM

UC decided to take a different combo forward which ended their interest in Kaiser.

Will be interesting to watch both develop in college and see who came out ahead.

UC got another 4 star commit. Not nearly the same size, but a promising get none-the-less. http://sports.yahoo.com/cincinnati/basketball/recruiting/player-Jacob-Evans-163755

They are also after Derrick Jones, along with XU.

I know. I just can't help taking gratuitous shots at that Jaundiced Leprechaun. He's such an easy target. His guys do play hard, but usually not very well. His offense is an abomination, and now his boy Killa is long gone.

By the way. anybody hear any noise about Kilpatrick making an NBA roster?...........Hmmmmmmm?............Crickets... ..

GreatWhiteNorth

10-16-2014, 06:40 PM

Gates, welcome to the Xavier Nation. You'll like it here.

xu82

10-16-2014, 06:45 PM

casualfan

10-16-2014, 07:20 PM

Derrick Jones, if I can believe what I read, also has offers from Kentucky, Kansas, Arizona and Syracuse. This would be the type of guy we need to get to keep moving forward. If UC were to get him, he's just not smart enough to go to X.

UC's 2015 class is done.

The forward they took over Gates is little known guy from down around me that I really really like.

I've seen Gates play a bit and while he is very skilled he reminds me a lot of James Farr. Not size-wise, but skill wise. That is to say I'm hopeful he can develop some ball handling skills and play the three because I don't like any plan that involves him playing the 4.

Juice

10-16-2014, 07:47 PM

paulxu

10-16-2014, 08:11 PM

Why is that?

bleedXblue

10-16-2014, 08:40 PM

Why is that?

We lose Stain and Dee.

Should have two spots open.

I want to say this class is a little thin for what they're looking for.

XUFan09

10-16-2014, 10:45 PM

The class just above it has six new guys (one of whom will probably redshirt and join the 2015 class), and the 2015 class is also relatively weak. The 2016 class is definitely better, so they could use an extra scholarship to carry over to that class. The need for players is also much greater by 2016, whereas in 2015 the roster will be pretty crowded. I hope next summer they snag a 5th-year transfer in order to make use of the scholarship while still being able to save it for 2016.

ammtd34

10-17-2014, 07:21 AM

casualfan

10-17-2014, 07:34 AM

With the way this program has lost players the last few years I would not take my foot off the gas if I'm Chris.

XUGRAD80

10-17-2014, 08:41 AM

With the way EVERY program has lost players the last few years I would not take my foot off the gas if I'm Chris.

fixed it for you

throwbackmuskie

10-17-2014, 09:22 AM

UC decided to take a different combo forward which ended their interest in Kaiser.

Will be interesting to watch both develop in college and see who came out ahead.

Are you talking about Jacob Evans? If so I think Gates will be the better player. Evans is known for decent D, and ok O.

Juice

10-17-2014, 09:31 AM

Are you talking about Jacob Evans? If so I think Gates will be the better player. Evans is known for decent D, and ok O.

They appear to be different types of players. Gates is 6'7''-6'8'' and is going to be SF/stretch PF. Evans is 6'5'' and appears to be a true wing.

casualfan

10-17-2014, 09:37 AM

Are you talking about Jacob Evans? If so I think Gates will be the better player. Evans is known for decent D, and ok O.

No, i'm talking about tre scott.

PMI

10-17-2014, 10:51 AM

UC's 2015 class is done.

The forward they took over Gates is little known guy from down around me that I really really like.

I've seen Gates play a bit and while he is very skilled he reminds me a lot of James Farr. Not size-wise, but skill wise. That is to say I'm hopeful he can develop some ball handling skills and play the three because I don't like any plan that involves him playing the 4.

According to the recruiting sites, Gates does have a good handle. His offensive upside seems very high, as he's got a good stroke, handle, and passing abilities. The one knock I've heard on him is that he loses focus at times, which is certainly a concern, but by all accounts he is much smoother an athlete than James Farr.

XU 87

10-17-2014, 11:02 AM

UC's 2015 class is done.

The forward they took over Gates is little known guy from down around me that I really really like.

I've seen Gates play a bit and while he is very skilled he reminds me a lot of James Farr. Not size-wise, but skill wise. That is to say I'm hopeful he can develop some ball handling skills and play the three because I don't like any plan that involves him playing the 4.

While I don't know much about him, it is a little concerning that he wasn't offered by some better schools. He had it down to X, UCF, and Texas Tech. But we'll see.

muskienick

10-17-2014, 11:13 AM

No, i'm talking about tre scott.

Gates is ranked significantly higher than Scott at every level...

Scott: National Composite = 226; Georgia = 58; Position = 15 ------- Top 247 National = 202; Georgia = 51; Position = 12
Gates: National Composite = 127; Georgia = 22; Position = 11 ------- Top 247 National = 91; Georgia = 15; Position = 7

...but some folks like strawberry better than spumoni.

casualfan

10-17-2014, 11:38 AM

Gates is ranked significantly higher than Scott at every level...

Scott: National Composite = 226; Georgia = 58; Position = 15 ------- Top 247 National = 202; Georgia = 51; Position = 12
Gates: National Composite = 127; Georgia = 22; Position = 11 ------- Top 247 National = 91; Georgia = 15; Position = 7

...but some folks like strawberry better than spumoni.

Yeah man, rankings are fool proof and never wrong. You got me.

All I'll say is that it is hard to get ranked when none of the national guys have seen you play.

casualfan

10-17-2014, 11:42 AM

While I don't know much about him, it is a little concerning that he wasn't offered by some better schools. He had it down to X, UCF, and Texas Tech. But we'll see.

I agree. One of the things I look at in recruiting is how hard the local schools go after a kid, especially if he's a highly rated kid.

It doesn't appear that either Georgia or Georgia Tech went after him very hard. Why is that?

I think he definitely has some tools and hope he turns into a good player, but I have my concerns.

XU 87

10-17-2014, 11:46 AM

I agree. One of the things I look at in recruiting is how hard the local schools go after a kid, especially if he's a highly rated kid.

It doesn't appear that either Georgia or Georgia Tech went after him very hard. Why is that?

I think he definitely has some tools and hope he turns into a good player, but I have my concerns.

Georgia Tech did not offer, which is concerning. However, Georgia and Auburn did offer. So that gives me some comfort. (I think Auburn is about 1.5 hours from Atlanta).

casualfan

10-17-2014, 11:48 AM

Georgia Tech did not offer, which is concerning. However, Georgia and Auburn did offer. So that gives me some comfort. (I think Auburn is about 1.5 hours from Atlanta).

There are offers that show on a kids profile and there are offers that if he called the coach to commit he'd be accepted. He did not have the latter from Auburn or Georgia.

A perfect example is Derrick Smits. His profiles list a Xavier offer, but we all know we had stopped recruiting him.

XU 87

10-17-2014, 11:57 AM

There are offers that show on a kids profile and there are offers that if he called the coach to commit he'd be accepted. He did not have the latter from Auburn or Georgia.

How do you know this?

Olsingledigit

10-17-2014, 11:59 AM

So am I hearing "we" don't like this kid; think he is a bad recruit; question where the program is going?

Well, I for one am not there yet. What is going to make some of you happy?

paulxu

10-17-2014, 12:00 PM

Sometimes schools don't offer if they are clogged up at a position.
In any event, I think you have to trust your coaching staff who have scouted and interacted with the kid.
Assumedly Mike Pegues knows something about the forward position.

ArizonaXUGrad

10-17-2014, 12:06 PM

There are offers that show on a kids profile and there are offers that if he called the coach to commit he'd be accepted. He did not have the latter from Auburn or Georgia.

A perfect example is Derrick Smits. His profiles list a Xavier offer, but we all know we had stopped recruiting him.

Way to poop on the Gates' parade, kid is tall with a good shot. He has a chance to develop into a quality player. He has a chance to not develop and transfer. We won't know until he gets on campus. The one thing I like about all of this is that you can't teach size and at 6'8 Gates has height. With a college weight room program should put on a few more #s and fill in nicely.

Evans is 6'5 which is nice for a college wing, however, in a tougher league like the BE 6'5 might cut it for a 2 but not the 3. I think it's obvious Mack is going for size and shooters right now. Austin is the only shorter guy so far and he is a legit 6'1 and can play.

As far as Scott, that kid grew it looks like. He has sites that still list him at 6'2. I didn't look at any video of him yet but he looks like a decent player. I just read that he also played his AAU at Atlanta Celtics but their site only lists Gates on there and not Scott. Where does he play AAU?

Also, finding it interest with Pitino's rant that the Celtics are Addidas and XU is a Nike school.

XU 87

10-17-2014, 12:08 PM

So am I hearing "we" don't like this kid; think he is a bad recruit; question where the program is going?

Well, I for one am not there yet. What is going to make some of you happy?

If your post is directed at me, I didn't say any of that, and I don't think anyone else did either. I, along with one or two others, did question how talented this kid is based on who offered him scholarships. We'll find out once he gets here.

X-man

10-17-2014, 12:15 PM

So am I hearing "we" don't like this kid; think he is a bad recruit; question where the program is going?

Well, I for one am not there yet. What is going to make some of you happy?

Replace "we" with "casualfan", and your sentence makes more sense. I confess that casualfan's posts in the past have frequently made me wonder exactly what program he is a "fan of. His contributions on the Gates recruitment information appear to confirm that whatever program it is, it isn't the Muskies.

DC Muskie

10-17-2014, 12:29 PM

Replace "we" with "casualfan", and your sentence makes more sense. I confess that casualfan's posts in the past have frequently made me wonder exactly what program he is a "fan of. His contributions on the Gates recruitment information appear to confirm that whatever program it is, it isn't the Muskies.

Come on man, casual is legit. He provides good insight, and thoughts; unlike some. Replace "some" with "me" and it makes more sense.

casualfan

10-17-2014, 01:04 PM

Come on man, casual is legit. He provides good insight, and thoughts; unlike some. Replace "some" with "me" and it makes more sense.

Appreciate that. Unfortunately anytime you post anything on here that goes against the company line you're met with ridicule instead of civil conversation.

The ironic part is that I doubt the ppl ripping me for my thoughts on Gates have seen him play a full game whereas I've been able to watch him in person a number of times.

Ah well, this is where I bow out of this thread. Can't wait for the season.

Juice

10-17-2014, 01:11 PM

Georgia Tech did not offer, which is concerning. However, Georgia and Auburn did offer. So that gives me some comfort. (I think Auburn is about 1.5 hours from Atlanta).

A Brian Gregory led Ga Tech program? That's reassuring to me.

muskienick

10-17-2014, 01:23 PM

Yeah man, rankings are fool proof and never wrong. You got me.

All I'll say is that it is hard to get ranked when none of the national guys have seen you play.

Scott was ranked in the same categories that Gates was ranked --- just significantly lower. And it seems you have selective reading comprehension since I completed my earlier post by saying "but some folks like strawberry better than spumoni." My intent in writing that was to indicate that beauty is in the eye of the beholder and that what seems like a very good player (4-star) to one rating system may only be a good player (3-star) to another or vice versa.

In Top 247, both players were listed at 6'7" and 203 lbs and both were listed as being from Georgia. We, who live in Cincinnati should have little trouble comparing the two players over the years starting in 2015-16. So there is no real point in getting one's panties ruffled or in predicting doom or greatness for a recruit of the future.

XfansinKy

10-17-2014, 01:25 PM

muskienick

10-17-2014, 02:01 PM

Here are schools who offered scholarships to Tre Scott and Kaiser Gates according to sites I just visited (including a UC recruiting site):
Scott: Alabama, Clemson, Florida Atlantic, George Mason, Georgia, Georgia Southern, LaSalle, UAB, Western Kentucky
Gates: Wichita State, Mississippi State, Houston, Miami (FL), Vandy, Florida State, Georgia, Missouri, Auburn, UC, Texas Tech

Masterofreality

10-17-2014, 02:35 PM

Here are schools who offered scholarships to Tre Scott and Kaiser Gates according to sites I just visited (including a UC recruiting site):
Scott: Alabama, Clemson, Florida Atlantic, George Mason, George, Georgia Southern, LaSalle, UAB, Western Kentucky
Gates: Wichita State, Mississippi State, Houston, Miami (FL), Vandy, Florida State, Georgia, Missouri, Auburn, UC, Texas Tech

Advantage Kaiser Gates. Period.

PMI

10-17-2014, 02:47 PM

Appreciate that. Unfortunately anytime you post anything on here that goes against the company line you're met with ridicule instead of civil conversation.

The ironic part is that I doubt the ppl ripping me for my thoughts on Gates have seen him play a full game whereas I've been able to watch him in person a number of times.

Ah well, this is where I bow out of this thread. Can't wait for the season.

I'm not going to rip on you. You've seen him play and I have not. But I will always contend that it is incredibly flawed logic to judge a player based on the schools on his final list. I can go through tons of Xavier players whose final lists included all schools well below us who turned out to be good players. I can also come up with tons of players who turned out to suck in college whose lists were full of excellent programs. It's just such a silly, narrow-minded way of viewing the situation, and no coach in his right mind would do it that way. Not saying you're making your judgement based solely on that, just noting that a lot of people do do that and it's ignorant.

The bottom line is, the coaching staff feels he fits a certain need/want. It's well known that Mack was going to be overly selective with the 2015 class, as 2016 is a much better class and we'll have more scholarships. A lot of recruiting gurus like his game and see something in him. Chris Mack clearly does. You're right about recruiting rankings not being anything close to an exact science, which is why coaches don't care about those kinds of things, and make their decisions based on their own scouting. Gates has a lot of tools to turn into a good player and we should not be disappointed that he's getting that shot at Xavier.

bleedXblue

10-17-2014, 05:37 PM

Maybe its b/c I'm getting older and have been posting on this site for over 5 years, but this kind of stuff is just getting ridiculous. Kid is 18 and hasn't even stepped foot on campus. Rarely do we recruit kids who can play and contribute immediately. Mack and staff see something in him. Lets trust they know what they're doing.....especially considering the class that's coming in this year.

RealDeal

10-17-2014, 06:27 PM

Having an impressive list of schools recruiting you will move you up the recruiting rankings, but it won't make you a better player.

xu82

10-17-2014, 06:56 PM

I don't believe David West was overwhelmed with offers from top schools, and that turned out OK.

I trust our coaches to evaluate talent. No one wins all the time, but their track record is pretty good.

XfansinKy

10-18-2014, 07:20 AM

Maybe with this freshman class that looks to be strong, the next incoming class can afford a couple players that need some work but have a high ceiling.

Masterofreality

10-18-2014, 07:41 AM

Kipper Nichols is still considering Xavier. Just sayin'

Decision soon.

GoMuskies

10-18-2014, 08:14 AM

Kipper Nichols is still considering Xavier. Just sayin'

Decision soon.

But is Xavier still considering Kipper Nichols?

Masterofreality

10-18-2014, 08:24 AM

But is Xavier still considering Kipper Nichols?

Well, they haven't signed anyone else, and no matter what anyone else says, Xavier hasn't told Kip that they aren't.

casualfan

10-18-2014, 09:17 AM

But is Xavier still considering Kipper Nichols?

I'm pretty certain Gates was the backup plan for Nichols. Whether Nichols knows it or not we've moved on.

Masterofreality

10-18-2014, 09:43 AM

I'm pretty certain Gates was the backup plan for Nichols. Whether Nichols knows it or not we've moved on.

No, no we haven't..at least not from what the family has been told. And Gates and Nichols play 2 different positions. Kip could never play the 4.

X is recruiting Funderburke from St. Ed's hard too. Important to keep building the relationship and not blow it by being crass. Mack and Eric Flannery continue to communicate.

Kip may not choose X, but it's not because "we've moved on".

ThrowDownDBrown

10-18-2014, 12:05 PM

I'm sure the coaches will still keep in contact with him to cover themselves if Gates were to decommit but Nichols had his chance and he didn't take it. They only wanted one of him or Gates and they got one so they're not taking a commitment from Nicholos anymore.

Backyard Champ

10-18-2014, 01:46 PM

My understanding is we have moved on from Nichols. I agree we should keep good relations with St. Eds, but Nichols had his opportunity. My guess is the Eds coaches understand and thus they still have good relations with Mack.

Pete Delkus

10-21-2014, 09:49 AM

PMI

10-21-2014, 10:01 AM

Admittedly this is a stupid take...However, when I close my eyes (figuratively), I hear the name "Kaiser Gates", I hear Dan Hoards nasally voice calling that name on the radio. Conversely, when I hear the name of UC Freshman, Gary Clark, I head Joe's voice.

Stupid, I know - Just saying...

I don't think it's stupid. Whenever I hear "LeGarrett Blount" I imagine Al Michael's Kermit the Frog voice emphasizing and dragging the soft "a." I have no idea if I've ever even heard him say the name, but that's where my weird mind goes.

Masterofreality

10-21-2014, 03:20 PM

Admittedly this is a stupid take...However, when I close my eyes (figuratively), I hear the name "Kaiser Gates", I hear Dan Hoards nasally voice calling that name on the radio. Conversely, when I hear the name of UC Freshman, Gary Clark, I head Joe's voice.

Stupid, I know - Just saying...

How Dan Hoard ever got any broadcasting job....and somehow keeps it is a mystery of the universe.

Guy. Is. Horrible.

sirthought

10-21-2014, 06:31 PM

How Dan Hoard ever got any broadcasting job....and somehow keeps it is a mystery of the universe.

Guy. Is. Horrible.

I think he's great. Very well prepared. Doesn't trip, ever. Picks up on the important details without rambling about unnecessary things. Really a pro.

Masterofreality

10-21-2014, 06:41 PM

I think he's great. Very well prepared. Doesn't trip, ever. Picks up on the important details without rambling about unnecessary things. Really a pro.

Totally disagree. I've never heard an announcer whine so much about how the team he is calling always gets shafted. His nasal delivery is also grating as hell. He always sounds like he's angry about something with no joy in calling the contest. One of the all time worst I've ever heard.

And before anyone says that I hate the guy because he calls SucKS games, Paul Keels called them before Hoard, and he is excellent..so much so he graduated to the OSU games.

Joe Sunderman, who has no formal announcing training, is so much more professional.

paulxu

10-21-2014, 09:44 PM

bobbiemcgee

10-21-2014, 11:12 PM

I'm pretty certain Gates was the backup plan for Nichols. Whether Nichols knows it or not we've moved on.

I would think the opposite, since Kaiser is a Top 150 guy. We seem to like that group lately.

LA Muskie

10-21-2014, 11:45 PM

I would think the opposite, since Kaiser is a Top 150 guy. We seem to like that group lately.

Nichols was Plan A.

Xavier

10-22-2014, 12:15 AM

ArizonaXUGrad

10-22-2014, 11:49 AM

Did Nichols even commit yet? Sometimes its better to take the date to the dance that says yes then wait for the one that is looking for something better.

Juice

10-22-2014, 12:21 PM

Did Nichols even commit yet? Sometimes its better to take the date to the dance that says yes then wait for the one that is looking for something better.

He hasn't and that is pretty much why X took the commitment from Gates rather than wait on Nichols.

ArizonaXUGrad

10-22-2014, 06:08 PM

He hasn't and that is pretty much why X took the commitment from Gates rather than wait on Nichols.

Take rankings for whatever they are worth but these two aren't far apart. However, I am having issues even finding Nichols in the top 150 on Rivals.

Juice

10-22-2014, 07:10 PM

Take rankings for whatever they are worth but these two aren't far apart. However, I am having issues even finding Nichols in the top 150 on Rivals.

Yeah, they are very close in rankings between the ratings sites. I don't think Rivals has Nichols in their top 150. I think he is just a 3 star guy, unranked. I think Snow prefers Nicholas but Broering prefers Gates (if that's too much info from the pay board let me know so I can edit it out). So it's a toss up on who is more likely to pan out.

gladdenguy

10-22-2014, 08:09 PM

How Dan Hoard ever got any broadcasting job....and somehow keeps it is a mystery of the universe.

Guy. Is. Horrible.

Couldn't agree more. I know we are extremely lucky to have Joe and Byron especially when I hear hoard. Its painful to listen to him.

Not only is Hoard bad.......I can't stand listening to Bengals games ever since Johansen left.....but pair him with old looney toon for SucKs basketball and it is beyond horrible. I would have to be at games if I were a kittens fan.

surfxu

10-23-2014, 12:19 PM

OH Jeez... don't even go down the road of Chuck Maycock or whatever his name is... I'm not a fan of Dan Hoard at all... but I'd take him any day over Chuck. I can't stand how he used to "talk" to Huggs during the game or yells/complains at referrees when they are obviously running by him or standing by the announcers table. Totally classless... the best thing to ever happen to that guy was to get thrown out of that tournament game.

ArizonaXUGrad

10-24-2014, 11:26 AM

Yeah, they are very close in rankings between the ratings sites. I don't think Rivals has Nichols in their top 150. I think he is just a 3 star guy, unranked. I think Snow prefers Nicholas but Broering prefers Gates (if that's too much info from the pay board let me know so I can edit it out). So it's a toss up on who is more likely to pan out.

Two good sources, I have access to both. I bet Gates is higher because of his height. It's one of the few things in basketball you just cannot teach or develop.