College Football Thread - 2014

[GoMuskies]

Then Boise State and BYU

That would be better from my perspective.

[LA Muskie]

Less than 9 months ago.

Yes. Hence the "(s)".

[LA Muskie]

Didn't UCONN just win the championship two,years ago?

I guess I should have used the sarcasm font..

[GoMuskies]

Gary Patterson sure is handling the playoff snub with more class than Art Briles.

[X-band '01]

Memphis has a significantly worse football program than Cincinnati.

You do realize that Memphis is a co-champ in the AAC this year, correct? Granted, it's not likely to be sustained.

From what I'm hearing, the Big 12 is going to apply for a waiver to play a championship game with only 10 teams. Since there's no chance in hell of them getting said waiver, that's why you'll probably see them look for 2 more teams to get to 12.

[GoMuskies]

You do realize that Memphis is a co-champ in the AAC this year, correct?

Yes, and Mercer has been to the NCAA Tournament round of 32 more recently than Duke.

[Xville]

well, this is why I don't bet on sports. I thought for sure at least 1 if not two of the top 4 teams were going to lose this weekend, and obviously that didn't happen.

As far as Ohio State getting in, its crap but not the sense that Baylor and TCU are better than Ohio State, the thing is I think they are all about the same...how to decipher one over the other is virtually impossible. So, the committee decided to put the biggest school, with the biggest alumni base out of the three. They will say it was this or this or whatever, but i think that is what it really came down to...well that and the fact that two members of the committee have had heavy ties with schools that are in the Big 10.

As for the games themselves, Alabama wins by two touchdowns or more. Oregon-FSU is going to be fascinating. I think Oregon has more talent this year, but until FSU actually loses a game it is hard to pick against them. That should be a good one!

[bleedXblue]

UC's going to get a serious look from the Big 12.

BYU, Boise State as well.

SMU? Although I'm not sure how their previous transgressions will affect them.

[GoMuskies]

SMU? Although I'm not sure how their previous transgressions will affect them.

I think the BIG XII has enough of Texas covered already. I suppose they could grab SMU, Rice and Houston (along with UC or someone else) and get the whole SWC gang back together, but I doubt anyone outside of SMU, Rice and Houston is interested in that.

[Masterofreality]

UC's going to get a serious look from the Big 12.

BYU, Boise State as well.

SMU? Although I'm not sure how their previous transgressions will affect them.

SucKS will get a serious look, just like I seriously look at my Granddaughter's diaper when it needs to be changed. All I see is Ka Ka.

The Borecats facilities, funding, financials and fan base are all substandard. If you draw 24,000 announced, with much less actually there, to your home football games, you bring nothing to the table and the Big 12's TV package would get no enhancement with SucKS in there.

[GoMuskies]

SucKS will get a serious look, just like I seriously look at my Granddaughter's diaper when it needs to be changed. All I see is Ka Ka.

The Borecats facilities, funding, financials and fan base are all substandard. If you draw 24,000 announced, with much less actually there, to your home football games, you bring nothing to the table and the Big 12's TV package would get no enhancement with SucKS in there.

UC is probably the best of the remaining trash from an overall program perspective (behind BYU who has their own baggage). If the Big XII didn't have this championship game need, UC would be of zero interest.

Too bad they can't just get Nebraska and either Mizzou or Texas A&M back.

[Xville]

I really don't know who the Big 12 could really add that would make sense. I don't believe that adding teams just for the sake of being able to add a championship game is really the way to go. The conference was one loss away from having 1 or possibly even 2 two teams in the playoff.

I know it will never happen, actually just the opposite will probably happen, but I really wish they would eliminate most of these bowl games. Currently 78 of the 128 teams make a bowl, next year that jumps to 80. It is the equivalent of a participation trophy in little league.

[Xville]

UC is probably the best of the remaining trash from an overall program perspective (behind BYU who has their own baggage). If the Big XII didn't have this championship game need, UC would be of zero interest.

Too bad they can't just get Nebraska and either Mizzou or Texas A&M back.


You can thank Texas' greed, ego, and their stupid Longhorn Network for Nebraska, Mizzou and Texas A&M fleeing that conference. All three of those teams were so sick of putting up with Texas' crap.

[THRILLHOUSE]

I really don't know who the Big 12 could really add that would make sense. I don't believe that adding teams just for the sake of being able to add a championship game is really the way to go. The conference was one loss away from having 1 or possibly even 2 two teams in the playoff.


I agree with this. I'm sure they will look into it but at the end of the day they will stay at 10. Kind of funny that in the 2000's, multiple times OSU benefited from not having to play in a conference championship game, now they benefit from having one. Like you said, had FSU lost to GT and OSU to Wisconsin, everyone would be talking about how TCU and Baylor benefited from the lack of a championship game. It just didn't break that way this year.

I think there is a better chance that the Big 12 will try to convince the NCAA to let them have a title game under their current alignment rather than bringing in programs like UC, Memphis, BYU or Boise.

[Masterofreality]

The A-10 added teams just for the sake of adding teams. Know what you got? Fordham.

SucKS would be the Fordham of the Big 12. Sucking revenue without contributing anything.

Either the Big 12 will get a waiver for two 5 team divisions with a championship game, or there will be an expansion of the playoff to 8 teams. There is no desire on the part of the schools in the Power 5 "Club" on sharing any more money with anybody.

[BMoreX]

I think you're grossly underestimating UC, MOR.

The Big 12 will and should look east for 11 and 12. Cincinnati is a natural fit as it links WVU to the rest of the Big 12. By tabbing the Bearcats, you open the state of Ohio for recruiting and TV purposes, which the conference would love to do as it is Big Ten territory.

Despise them or not, but Cincinnati is clearly the best package (esp. in basketball and football success) of any university that isn't in one of the Power Five conferences.

[GoMuskies]

Despise them or not, but Cincinnati is clearly the best package (esp. in basketball and football success) of any university that isn't in one of the Power Five conferences.

Other than BYU

[BMoreX]

Other than BYU

True, I just think they enjoy that independence. They're definitely #1 choice if they are OK with joining a conference in football though.

[waggy]

How about Colorado State?

[casualfan]

Other than BYU

ehh, yes and no.

If sports were played in a vacuum you're absolutely correct. The problem with BYU is everything else that comes with it, including their independent TV deal.

[GoMuskies]

I agree that BYU is complicated, but they are clearly the premier athletic program and brand that is not currently in a P5 conference. I don't see any reason they couldn't go as a football-only, though, since they have the WCC for everything else. That cuts down on the BYU complications by a lot.

[Masterofreality]

I think you're grossly underestimating UC, MOR.

The Big 12 will and should look east for 11 and 12. Cincinnati is a natural fit as it links WVU to the rest of the Big 12. By tabbing the Bearcats, you open the state of Ohio for recruiting and TV purposes, which the conference would love to do as it is Big Ten territory.

Despise them or not, but Cincinnati is clearly the best package (esp. in basketball and football success) of any university that isn't in one of the Power Five conferences.

I choose to ignore all that. How dare you put reason out there?

F 'em, really, F 'em.

Seriously though, TV is zero consideration. This isn't where Fox needs to add a market. There are all kinds of Big 12 games on all over Ohio every Saturday either on FSNO, FS1, Longhorn Network or Fox. You can pretty much watch any Big 12 game you want. The Borecats bring nothing to that. Thier fan base wouldn't register a quarter of a Neilsen point.

SucKS has always played in crap football conferences and whenever they play one of the Power 5, other than Purdue, they get boatraced. They have zero football élan and with YTG at the helm, their basketball is a deteriorating joke.

Little to offer, other than claiming a full split of the pie.

[LA Muskie]

Can someone please explain the logic (if any) of REQUIRING at least 12 schools (2 divisions of 6 schools) to have a conference championship game?

[LA Muskie]

Because of the rivalry I think people in Cincinnati underestimate the national reach and appeal of UC. It's obviously not in the upper echelon but it carries well. I see UC hats, tees and sweatshirts in LA all the time - and far more often than any of the other Big XII expansion options. That includes BYU, even with the substantial Mormon population here.

[paulxu]

That's a good question. Absent a true playoff system for a national champion (like BB) where a conference champion gets an automatic bid, the only things I can think of:
1 - conference bragging rights
2 - a built in need to determine a conference champion because you can't play everyone at least once (too many teams in the conference)

[BandAid]

How about Colorado State?

I like this idea. One could argue Colorado State is equal or has passed Colorado in major athletics (basketball and football)...

Colorado St and BYU would be my first choice if I were the Big XII. Then Memphis (for their basketball pedigree)...after that, Boise? UC? UCF? Who knows.

[BMoreX]

Seriously though, TV is zero consideration.

I'm sorry, but this is just not true.

[waggy]

West Virginia is going to want UC though, because as it stands right now they are an extreme outlier geographically.

[muskiefan82]

Then Memphis (for their basketball pedigree)

If you mean Pedigree like the dog food, then maybe. Memphis is no longer what Calipari created.

[BandAid]

If you mean Pedigree like the dog food, then maybe. Memphis is no longer what Calipari created.

You know that. And I know that. But does the casual fan know that?

Plus, it'd weaken the AAC while leaving UC behind, so that'd be cool

[xu82]

If you mean Pedigree like the dog food, then maybe. Memphis is no longer what Calipari created.

You mean they're no longer crooked? We don't know that for sure!

[casualfan]

Can someone please explain the logic (if any) of REQUIRING at least 12 schools (2 divisions of 6 schools) to have a conference championship game?


Because with 10 teams and a true round robin in the regular season. There's no need for a cig.


10teams also guarantees the championship game will be a rematch.

That's not ideal because you'll either muddy the waters w a split or one team will double up on the other which typically doesn't help the team who doubles up much.

12or14 allows for two separate divisions and reduces the possibility of a rematch in the champ game.

[LA Muskie]

Because with 10 teams and a true round robin in the regular season. There's no need for a cig.


10teams also guarantees the championship game will be a rematch.

That's not ideal because you'll either muddy the waters w a split or one team will double up on the other which typically doesn't help the team who doubles up much.

12or14 allows for two separate divisions and reduces the possibility of a rematch in the champ game.
I understand that logic from the perspective of a conference. But why does the NCAA care to the point they have a rule against it?

[Masterofreality]

I think you're grossly underestimating UC, MOR.

The Big 12 will and should look east for 11 and 12. Cincinnati is a natural fit as it links WVU to the rest of the Big 12. By tabbing the Bearcats, you open the state of Ohio for recruiting and TV purposes, which the conference would love to do as it is Big Ten territory.

Despise them or not, but Cincinnati is clearly the best package (esp. in basketball and football success) of any university that isn't in one of the Power Five conferences.

Well, and then there's this.

@McMurphyESPN: At Big 12 function in NY: no one ever talked to Cincy, OU’s Joe C wasn't at UCF & SMU’s BOR report UM/Cincy getting invites wrong.

And this:

@BasketballJ0nes: @McMurphyESPN oh you mean mike decourcy ran with a bogus story to support UC in conference realignment? #notthefirsttime

The claim that The Big 12 "spoke to SucKS" was published by Mike DeCoursey, noted UC honk and also a guy who covered Memphis and has lots of friends down there. Of course DeCoursey has a Borecats "source" (unnamed) who would say that they we're"spoken to" and DeCoursey is a willing mouthpiece because he is all about all things Borecats. He is the biggest defender of The Jaundiced Leprechaun and has always had the backs of those in Clifton.

I repeat. SucKS brings nothing to the table. The Big 12 doesn't need the Cincinnati market, knows that the Big 10 rules here and that they would never get any traction here. The Big 12 is not going to overreact to the snub. Either A) They will get their playoff with 10 teams, (B) playoffs will be expanded. (C) They'll add 2 SW or western teams.

Morgantown is an outpost. They'll bitch and moan, but the fact is they had no where else to go but the Big 12 then, and they have no where else to go now. They'll be good boys , just sit there and swallow their bile.

uc SucKS.

[casualfan]

I understand that logic from the perspective of a conference. But why does the NCAA care to the point they have a rule against it?

You're a brave soul putting those two words in the same sentence.

[Masterofreality]

Because with 10 teams and a true round robin in the regular season. There's no need for a cig.


10teams also guarantees the championship game will be a rematch.

That's not ideal because you'll either muddy the waters w a split or one team will double up on the other which typically doesn't help the team who doubles up much.

12or14 allows for two separate divisions and reduces the possibility of a rematch in the champ game.

But it doesn't guarantee that. In 2010 in a 12 team SEC, Auburn and South Carolina played in regular season then the Championship.

Happened in 2004 too with Auburn and Tennessee in a 12 team league.

[casualfan]

But it doesn't guarantee that. In 2010 in a 12 team SEC, Auburn and South Carolina played in regular season then the Championship.

Happened in 2004 too with Auburn and Tennessee in a 12 team league.

Which is why I said reduces the possibility, not eliminates...

[X-band '01]

The A-10 added teams just for the sake of adding teams. Know what you got? Fordham.

SucKS would be the Fordham of the Big 12. Sucking revenue without contributing anything.

Either the Big 12 will get a waiver for two 5 team divisions with a championship game, or there will be an expansion of the playoff to 8 teams. There is no desire on the part of the schools in the Power 5 "Club" on sharing any more money with anybody.

There was a similar discussion on Holy Land of Hoops - one of the posters noted that the Big 10 and Pac-10 had applied for waivers in the past to have conference title games without the required 12 teams and were denied. From a revenue standpoint, the Big 12 would be at an advantage with only 10 teams to split the pot. There is no way the other conferences are going to give them a pass when they had to expand out of necessity (see Nebraska in the Big 10 and Colorado/Utah to the Big 12). Maryland and Rutgers joined the Big 10 once they realized their media rights and money was going to be much higher than in their old conferences. Same for Texas A&M and Mizzou.

Even with their attendance woes at football games, I would imagine that UC is still a better draw at this point (along with Memphis) than Colorado State would be.


I like this idea. One could argue Colorado State is equal or has passed Colorado in major athletics (basketball and football)...

Colorado St and BYU would be my first choice if I were the Big XII. Then Memphis (for their basketball pedigree)...after that, Boise? UC? UCF? Who knows.

Agree with you on the football side, although I disagree on the basketball side. Colorado has made the NCAAs each season they've been in the Pac-12 (and also won the Pac-12 title in their inaugural season). They were never that consistent in the Big 8/Big 12.

[GoMuskies]

Wisconsin ' s performance in the Big Ten title game makes more sense now.

[vee4xu]

Wisconsin ' s performance in the Big Ten title game makes more sense now.

I should know better, but I'll take the bait. You've left the post vague enough to beg the question, why. So, I'll ask why you think this. I know I'll be sorry that I did, but I just can't help myself. You know that feeling, right Go?

[GoMuskies]

I should know better, but I'll take the bait. You've left the post vague enough to beg the question, why. So, I'll ask why you think this. I know I'll be sorry that I did, but I just can't help myself. You know that feeling, right Go?

Wisconsin' s coach took the Oregon State job yesterday.

[vee4xu]

I saw that. I figured you were commenting how that somehow diminished or tarnished win by tOSU.

[GoMuskies]

I saw that. I figured you were commenting how that somehow diminished or tarnished win by tOSU.

I don't think it tarnishes Ohio State's win so much as it somewhat explains the margin. Surely you don't think it's a coincidence that they just happened to get beat 59-0 five days before their coach decided to take what would have to be considered by just about everyone a lesser job?

[LA Muskie]

I don't think it tarnishes Ohio State's win so much as it somewhat explains the margin. Surely you don't think it's a coincidence that they just happened to get beat 59-0 five days before their coach decided to take what would have to be considered by just about everyone a lesser job?

I don't understand your point at all. He wanted to leave his job so he figured his best route to his next job was to get abjectly embarrassed on national TV? Most people figure the route is success; never heard anyone suggest humiliating failure is the way to go.

[GoMuskies]

I don't understand your point at all. He wanted to leave his job so he figured his best route to his next job was to get abjectly embarrassed on national TV? Most people figure the route is success; never heard anyone suggest humiliating failure is the way to go.

My point is that there was something brewing in the Wisconsin program that was clearly not good. The coach was surely distracted by what was going on with Oregon State.

Let me use an example from poor, little sisters of the poor Louisville: Bobby Petrino has only lost two home games in 5 seasons at Louisville. One was to defending national champs and undefeated Florida State, who Louisville led 24-7 in the third quarter. These things happen. The other was something like 31-7 to Memphis as double digit favorites. Was it a coincidence that the week leading up to that Memphis game was the week Petrino famously met with Auburn while Tuberville was still their coach?

[mohr5150]

I don't think it tarnishes Ohio State's win so much as it somewhat explains the margin. Surely you don't think it's a coincidence that they just happened to get beat 59-0 five days before their coach decided to take what would have to be considered by just about everyone a lesser job?

Totally agree with what you are saying. He mailed in his last game with the Badgers because he already knew he was going to the powerhouse of Oregon State. A perfect example of the state of affairs for Big 10 football. First, they have a coach leave for Arkansas? Now Oregon State? Their next coach will immediately be targeted by Temple and Central Florida.

[GoMuskies]

A perfect example of the state of affairs for Big 10 football. First, they have a coach leave for Arkansas? Now Oregon State?

Seems like a Barry Alvarez problem more than a Big Ten problem.

[Xavier]

Totally agree with what you are saying. He mailed in his last game with the Badgers because he already knew he was going to the powerhouse of Oregon State. A perfect example of the state of affairs for Big 10 football. First, they have a coach leave for Arkansas? Now Oregon State? Their next coach will immediately be targeted by Temple and Central Florida.

I saw that as a lateral movement. The style Bielema had at Wisconsin would fit perfectly with Arkansas IMO. Thought it was a good fit.

[Xville]

a little off topic but concerning Bielema...has anyone seen his wife? Wow...complete knockout. What a few million dollars will get you...that guy definitely outkicked his coverage

[Juice]

a little off topic but concerning Bielema...has anyone seen his wife? Wow...complete knockout. What a few million dollars will get you...that guy definitely outkicked his coverage

So you're saying that this 1566 doesn't deserve this? http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/jen-bielema-vegas.jpg?w=612

[Xville]

So you're saying that this 1566 doesn't deserve this? http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/jen-bielema-vegas.jpg?w=612

im sure she is with him because he is just such a great guy not the fact that he makes millions and millions of dollars :)

[xu82]

So you're saying that this 1566 doesn't deserve this? http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/jen-bielema-vegas.jpg?w=612

I wonder if it bothers her that she doesn't have the biggest boobs in the family?
There's always a price to be paid...

[D-West & PO-Z]

Just heard on the radio that all 10 Big 10 teams in bowl games are the underdog in the game. That has to be some sort of record right?

[xu82]

Just heard on the radio that all 10 Big 10 teams in bowl games are the underdog in the game. That has to be some sort of record right?

That's amazing! And telling. I don't even care if it's not true... I'm running with it. There are some people who need some taunting!

[D-West & PO-Z]

That's amazing! And telling. I don't even care if it's not true... I'm running with it. There are some people who need some taunting!

I heard it in Columbus on the radio station that plays all the Buckeye games. They said even Illinois is the underdog to Louisiana Tech or somebody.

[vee4xu]

Well boys, you both need to put your money where your mouths are and bet the farm on those favorites. That'll be entertaining for me to watch.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Well boys, you both need to put your money where your mouths are and bet the farm on those favorites. That'll be entertaining for me to watch.

Where is my mouth? All I did was state a fact. All 10 Big Ten teams are underdogs. I think you mean Vegas should put their money where their mouth is.

[vee4xu]

Where is my mouth? All I did was state a fact. All 10 Big Ten teams are underdogs. I think you mean Vegas should put their money where their mouth is.

You stepped right into it. Then, if what you say here is true then for what reason did you state the fact? Well, one can only surmise to bust balls and again show your vitriol for the Big 10, which is fine. That's your prerogative. But, that being the case, then you might as well bet some money on those games to make your vitriol worthwhile. Otherwise, your just a ballbuster, which also is fine, but just say so instead of hiding behind some seemingly innocuous statement like, "All I did was state a fact."

[GoMuskies]

From now on, please only state facts that show the Big Ten in a positive light out of respect for our sensitive Buckeye friends.

[RealDeal]

From now on, please only state facts that show the Big Ten in a positive light out of respect for our sensitive Buckeye friends.

Panties are in a major bunch.

[vee4xu]

From now on, please only state facts that show the Big Ten in a positive light out of respect for our sensitive Buckeye friends.

First, it is really, really sweet of you to come to your little buddy's defense. That's cute. Second, I am not sensitive, the dude can say whatever he wants. Third, my point is either he said it to wager money or to bust balls and I found out which it was. He's absolutely entitled to that and I could care less. I was just pointing out how disingenuous it was. After all, I am not the one harboring all that Big 10 hostility. And that, is a fact!

[DC Muskie]

Vee, why are you so upset? I'm a Buckeyes fan and having the entire Big Ten as underdogs in bowls doesn't bother me one bit. It doesn't surprise me either.

The Bucks just need to win. Of course that is really simple to say considering...but really thats all it comes down to. If the Big Ten wants to change the perception or really the reality of no longer being a top flight football conference, then just win some freaking games.

[vee4xu]

Not upset at all, DC. Folks can say whatever they want about the Big 10 because I really only root for OSU in the Big 10, just like I only root for Xavier in the Big East. I am not one of those who roots for the conference kind of guys. So, I can really care less what the rest of the Big 10 does in the bowl games. Truly and honestly, I was simply pointing out that based on the responses that making the point that each Big 10 team was a bowl underdog was ball busting. Once Go got in the mix, I had to give him some crap. He would be disappointed otherwise. :smile:

[chico]

Making the Big 10 underdogs will allow them to sneak up on people.

[GoMuskies]

First, it is really, really sweet of you to come to your little buddy's defense. That's cute. Second, I am not sensitive, the dude can say whatever he wants. Third, my point is either he said it to wager money or to bust balls and I found out which it was. He's absolutely entitled to that and I could care less. I was just pointing out how disingenuous it was. After all, I am not the one harboring all that Big 10 hostility. And that, is a fact!
You seem pretty sensitive to me.

[GoMuskies]

Imagine Ohio State wins the national title this year, led by their third string QB. He will be back next year. along with QBs #1 and #2. Who starts? Could you really put the guy who wins a national title for you by beating Wisconsin, Alabama and Oregon (probably) on the bench?

[D-West & PO-Z]

Gotta think no matter what Braxton is gone to another school right? Unless he wants to try a different position in the NFL and therefore will play another position next year at OSU.

[chico]

Gotta think no matter what Braxton is gone to another school right? Unless he wants to try a different position in the NFL and therefore will play another position next year at OSU.

Miller may not even be ready for next season. Apparently he can't even begin throwing until spring, and even if he is declared healthy by fall there will probably be questions about his shoulder.

[Smails]

Miller may not even be ready for next season. Apparently he can't even begin throwing until spring, and even if he is declared healthy by fall there will probably be questions about his shoulder.

Miller might be the starter next year if Urban Meyer holds true to the "zero tolerance policy" he announced in 2013. Although no charges were filed at the time, the woman claims JT Barrett choked her applying pressure to her neck with his forearm. Its not exactly a great time to be involved in a domestic disturbance issue. Not that there ever is a good time. We'll see if he drops the hammer or reverts back to his Florida discipline style.


Barrett's ex-girlfriend said he confronted her in the bedroom and used his forearm to apply pressure to her neck and took away her phone. According to the report, she said Barrett "choked her on the bed."

Ohio State football coach Urban Meyer has said he has a zero-tolerance policy when it comes to any issues involving players and any violence toward women. Meyer stated his policy in 2013, a year before the NFL's domestic-violence approach drew scrutiny after a video surfaced showing Ray Rice punching his then-fiancee.

[xudash]

Miller might be the starter next year if Urban Meyer holds true to the "zero tolerance policy" he announced in 2013. Although no charges were filed at the time, the woman claims JT Barrett choked her applying pressure to her neck with his forearm. Its not exactly a great time to be involved in a domestic disturbance issue. Not that there ever is a good time. We'll see if he drops the hammer or reverts back to his Florida discipline style.


Barrett's ex-girlfriend said he confronted her in the bedroom and used his forearm to apply pressure to her neck and took away her phone. According to the report, she said Barrett "choked her on the bed."

Ohio State football coach Urban Meyer has said he has a zero-tolerance policy when it comes to any issues involving players and any violence toward women. Meyer stated his policy in 2013, a year before the NFL's domestic-violence approach drew scrutiny after a video surfaced showing Ray Rice punching his then-fiancee.

Perhaps a little more context is appropriate: he called 911 first; she apparently attacked him firstly. And, according to this article and other sources, no injuries were apparent on either party:

http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2014/12/12/big-east-basketball-success

[Xville]

Imagine Ohio State wins the national title this year, led by their third string QB. He will be back next year. along with QBs #1 and #2. Who starts? Could you really put the guy who wins a national title for you by beating Wisconsin, Alabama and Oregon (probably) on the bench?
Only way that happens is if the refs decide to throw a flag on a phantom call ten seconds after the final play is over....oh wait

[vee4xu]

You seem pretty sensitive to me.

Well, I am here in Columbus typing on my keyboard and you are in Wichita typing on yours. Hard for you to know emotions from that perspective. You'll just have to take my word for it.

[GoMuskies]

Well, I am here in Columbus typing on my keyboard and you are in Wichita typing on yours. Hard for you to know emotions from that perspective. You'll just have to take my word for it.

The post you responded to was actually typed in Columbia, MO. So there.

[waggy]

Michigan offered Harbaugh 8 mil per? 6 year contract. 48 mil total?

If true, I might change my position on whether he'll take the job.

[paulxu]

Nick Saban just got another raise.

[paulxu]

Memphis and BYU got some gangstas on their team.

[xu82]

Memphis and BYU got some gangstas on their team.

Zip 'em up, baby! BYU rolls like that!

[Smails]

There were real punches and major connections in that brawl. I watched the replay in HD slowmo and there were some serious knuckles flying. One dude was hitting people with his helmet...and it wasn't on his head.

[mohr5150]

What an absolute travesty to,the sport. Shame on those players bring such dishonor to their universities. They should be kicked out and football should be abolished. Wait...that's not the reaction?


There were real punches and major connections in that brawl. I watched the replay in HD slowmo and there were some serious knuckles flying. One dude was hitting people with his helmet...and it wasn't on his head.

[Masterofreality]

What an absolute travesty to,the sport. Shame on those players bring such dishonor to their universities. They should be kicked out and football should be abolished. Wait...that's not the reaction?

Yeah, but that's football- the violent sport where basketball is so genteel and civilized that nothing of the sort should ever occur. :rolleyes:

[Porkopolis]

Let me take a moment to play the proud Marshall alum. Tonight was about as thorough of a beat down as you will see in a bowl game.

[xu82]

Let me take a moment to play the proud Marshall alum. Tonight was about as thorough of a beat down as you will see in a bowl game.

Congrats on the win. When I hear Marshall football I think the movie We are Marshall. Sad but great story. They finally got a win against.... some one we know. Ouch! That could hurt a program....

[X-band '01]

There were real punches and major connections in that brawl. I watched the replay in HD slowmo and there were some serious knuckles flying. One dude was hitting people with his helmet...and it wasn't on his head.

This was played on the old Orange Bowl site - we shouldn't be comparing this to the Crosstown Shootout, we should be comparing this to Miami-FIU. Now that was a nasty brawl in the middle of the game.

[Juice]

This was played on the old Orange Bowl site - we shouldn't be comparing this to the Crosstown Shootout, we should be comparing this to Miami-FIU. Now that was a nasty brawl in the middle of the game.

Brandon Meriweather should have been locked up or given the heavyweight title for his performance in that fight. I love re-watching that fight.

[PMI]

I am so pumped that my Michigan Wolverines are about to hire the program's savior! The days of losing to Ohio State and Michigan State are coming to an end soon, and Michigan will take back its rightful place at the top of the B1G and college football. I can't wait to see this place then...

[JTG]

I am so pumped that my Michigan Wolverines are about to hire the program's savior! The days of losing to Ohio State and Michigan State are coming to an end soon, and Michigan will take back its rightful place at the top of the B1G and college football. I can't wait to see this place then...

this

and I hope the Tide rips OSU a new ass on Thursday.

[X Factor]

I am so pumped that my Michigan Wolverines are about to hire the program's savior! The days of losing to Ohio State and Michigan State are coming to an end soon, and Michigan will take back its rightful place at the top of the B1G and college football. I can't wait to see this place then...

HAHAHAHAHAHA!! Seriously, this is really good for the B1G Conference. I wouldn't call Harbaugh UM's savior though. Urban Meyer and OSU will probably be ranked #1 or #2 to start the year next season. They bring back a TON of young guys, and Urban is a great recruiter. We'll see if Harbaugh will be able to recruit Ohio, because Michigan, at their best, always got some great talent out of Ohio.

OSU isn't going anywhere though that's for sure.

[Masterofreality]

The Borecats get rolled by double digits in a minor bowl game for the second straight year. I'm sure that they lost money on the proposition too. Add to that they barely averaged 30,000 per game in PBS.

That's not a good look on the resume to the Big 12.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

OSU has plenty of booster dough being funneled players, along with fake jobs, cars, and tatts for gear. They will always be up or at least should be up. Michigan will join them. If OSU gets popped again for the crap they pull to lure guys I am sure Meyer will have another fake health problem or miss his family.

Edit to include: Nebraska nearly sniped a road win against USC playing in San Diego. That would have been nice. 'Bama gets a home game as well against OSU in Nola since it's 4 hours from Tuscaloosa. I believe Stanford gets to play in Santa Clara and Arizona gets one in Glendale. Gotta love the Pac12 getting home games nearly across the board.


HAHAHAHAHAHA!! Seriously, this is really good for the B1G Conference. I wouldn't call Harbaugh UM's savior though. Urban Meyer and OSU will probably be ranked #1 or #2 to start the year next season. They bring back a TON of young guys, and Urban is a great recruiter. We'll see if Harbaugh will be able to recruit Ohio, because Michigan, at their best, always got some great talent out of Ohio.

OSU isn't going anywhere though that's for sure.

[paulxu]

'Bama gets a home game as well against OSU in Nola since it's 4 hours from Tuscaloosa.

4 hours from Columbus in the car puts you in Jellico, Tenn. That (I assume) would be a "home game" for OSU.
Try selling that to your boosters looking for a great weekend.

[GoMuskies]

Way to show up Oklahoma!

[Juice]

Way to show up Oklahoma!

Why isn't there talk of Stoops being fired?

[xu82]

Why isn't there talk of Stoops being fired?

Does this mean now there is?

(Hey, you gotta start somewhere!)

[Juice]

Does this mean now there is?

(Hey, you gotta start somewhere!)

I think we just somehow outsmarted the college football media.

[xu82]

I think we just somehow outsmarted the college football media.

I don't think it was that hard! Do we get paid?

[GoMuskies]

Bobby Petrino has lost his goddamned mind.

[STL_XUfan]

Why isn't there talk of Stoops being fired?

Bob #BigGame Stoops

[Nigel Tufnel]

I knew Chubb was good....but dayum.

[Strange Brew]

And.............ND knocks off the vaunted SEC program that is LSU. Someone please tell me why the SEC deserves the "special attention" it has received this season??? Remember the two MS teams were in the top five, what a joke.

[Juice]

And.............ND knocks off the vaunted SEC program that is LSU. Someone please tell me why the SEC deserves the "special attention" it has received this season??? Remember the two MS teams were in the top five, what a joke.

They're 4-1 in bowl games so far.

[GoMuskies]

So far the SEC is 4-1 and has covered as the favorite in the three games they've won. The SEC is off to a pretty good start in the bowl season despite the ND/LSU game, and the real tests are to come.

Sorry, forgot USC/Miami, and the Cocks won as an underdog in that one.

[Masterofreality]

So far the SEC is 4-1 and has covered as the favorite in the three games they've won. The SEC is off to a pretty good start in the bowl season despite the ND/LSU game, and the real tests are to come.

Sorry, forgot USC/Miami, and the Cocks won as an underdog in that one.

As a Louisville fan, Go, you CANNOT be happy that Todd Grantham is the Cards Defensive Coordinator. Georgia ran him out of Athens on a rail, then ran his D off the field. He gets paid a nice, tidy $880k too.

[Masterofreality]

And.............ND knocks off the vaunted SEC program that is LSU. Someone please tell me why the SEC deserves the "special attention" it has received this season??

Because Les Miles went Full Les Miles. Fake Field Goals, blown field goals, etc, etc, etc.

[paulxu]

Well, this might have been a touchdown.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/lsu-appears-to-score-on-fake-fg--refs-say-otherwise--video-214442561.html

[GoMuskies]

As a Louisville fan, Go, you CANNOT be happy that Todd Grantham is the Cards Defensive Coordinator. Georgia ran him out of Athens on a rail, then ran his D off the field. He gets paid a nice, tidy $880k too.

Grantham ' s defense was fantastic this year. Yesterday certainly sucked, but overall I was more than pleased with the job Grantham did this year.

[Milhouse]

Because Les Miles went Full Les Miles. Fake Field Goals, blown field goals, etc, etc, etc.

Or...silly thought: Credit ND?

If anyone watched the game I truly think ND was the better team. Completely controlled the clock and took care of the ball in a way they haven't all season. Hell in a way they haven't in the BK era period.

It was a close game and no discredit to LSU but they did get 264 yards and 3 touchdowns on 3 explosive plays. Just small mistakes on each of those plays were compounded into HUGE scoring plays. I wouldn't say ND is unlucky but I doubt it was in Les' Plan (except for the pass to start the 2nd half of course).

ND was more riddled with injuries than any team in the nation and the depth was all true freshmen and sophomores. It was great to see the W last night. Even better to look forward to next year.

Finally a QB controversy I can get behind. Golson/Zaire. No more Crist/Rees BS.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

That game was in Tennessee, so actually kind of a neutral field. Both schools travel well and had to travel kind of far to get there.

This crap with Stanford/USC/Arizona playing games 100 miles or less from their campus needs to stop if anyone is going to take seriously actual conference bowl records.

Alabama is less than 4 hours from it's game. You can roll down the bowl list and find way too many that are close enough to be home games. Not to mention, TCU was the 4th best team in the country not OSU. OSU was picked because they have a bigger fan base.

[paulxu]

Clearly the decades that went by with the B10 playing in the Rose Bowl were unfair.

They should have held the Rose Bowl in Wichita

[Masterofreality]

Or...silly thought: Credit ND?
.

Ok. Props on finishing in a tie with LSU at a mediocre 8-5- and losing to Northwestern and a Louisville team that was boat raced by Georgia yesterday. And ND was not clearly the "better team". Injuries happen to everyone, not just in South Bend. Nobody cares.

[GoMuskies]

TCU is currently trouncing an Ole Miss team that beat Alabama if anyone is up for second guessing the playoff selection committee some more.

[Masterofreality]

TCU is currently trouncing an Ole Miss team that beat Alabama if anyone is up for second guessing the playoff selection committee some more.

Yeah, I'm up for second guessing. TCU or Baylor- either one- should have been in there over Oh-ho-ho State, but it will show tomorrow.

[PMI]

There's no doubt that, right now, TCU is reenforcing what most people already knew about who the real fourth (or maybe even third) team in should have been.

[X-band '01]

TCU is currently trouncing an Ole Miss team that beat Alabama if anyone is up for second guessing the playoff selection committee some more.


Yeah, I'm up for second guessing. TCU or Baylor- either one- should have been in there over Oh-ho-ho State, but it will show tomorrow.

Baylor is not going to wallop Michigan State like TCU did to Ole Miss.

As for Ohio State, we'll see tomorrow night if the Cinderella story continues. Or, as the Wisconsin radio guys said, we'll find out if they have a fourth starting quarterback on the bench somewhere.

[waggy]

Ohio State is the wicked step-mother?

[GoMuskies]

Boise State is beating the everloving shit out of Arizona so far. Good to see Boise back in the saddle. I assumed they were done when Petersen bolted. Perhaps not.

[GoMuskies]

Man that was a dumb play by Arizona ' s QB.

[GoMuskies]

I'll take Oregon -8 and Ohio State +9 Thursday.

[Strange Brew]

Haha!!! Nice showing this evening. Someone, anyone please explain to me why the SEC deserves the reverence given to it by the media the last two years.

The MS teams were horrifically overrated this year. I wouldn't be surprised if OSU upset A L A Bama tomorrow.

[Strange Brew]

Currently, in the Associated Press poll, the SEC West alone has 4 of the top 8 teams and 5 of the top 10. Overall, the SEC has 7 of the top 14, and 8 of the top 18.

This definitively proves that most "sports journalist" are certifiable.

[paulxu]

Haha!!! Nice showing this evening. Someone, anyone please explain to me why the SEC deserves the reverence given to it by the media the last two years.

The MS teams were horrifically overrated this year. I wouldn't be surprised if OSU upset A L A Bama tomorrow.

Well, for the most part they beat up on teams from other conferences when the play them. Not all the time of course.
I agree the MS teams were overrated. Not horrifically, but GT was also ranked, and TCU was ranked higher than MSST.
GA beat Louisville, SC beat Miami, Arkansas pounded Texas and A&M beat WVU.

[Xville]

Well, for the most part they beat up on teams from other conferences when the play them. Not all the time of course.
I agree the MS teams were overrated. Not horrifically, but GT was also ranked, and TCU was ranked higher than MSST.
GA beat Louisville, SC beat Miami, Arkansas pounded Texas and A&M beat WVU.

Look I'm not an sec apologist at all. Actually I think the conference is overrated every year. I will preface this and say I'm a mizzou fan...anyways to grade a conference based on bowl outcomes is stupid in my opinion. Most wins and losses during the bowl season are based on motivation. I think Ole miss was overrated all year but you can't tell me that if this game was played at the beginning of the year 42-3 would happen. Tcu was highly motivated and ready to prove a point. It's the same reason why Boise state keeps winning big bowl games....for the most part, bowl games are absolutely stupid unless you are in the playoff. I love how espn is trying to prop up this new years six crap like four of the games mean anything at all.

[paulxu]

The MSU/Baylor game is exciting.

[Smails]

Ok. Props on finishing in a tie with LSU at a mediocre 8-5- and losing to Northwestern and a Louisville team that was boat raced by Georgia yesterday. And ND was not clearly the "better team". Injuries happen to everyone, not just in South Bend. Nobody cares.

Apparently you do. You're like a broken record when it comes to CFB "I really don't care for college football" yet you have hundreds of posts on the topic every season. Do you root for anyone? Or do you take the stance of sitting back and banging on every team that everyone else roots for? You should look at 2015 as an opportunity to recharge the batteries and come back with something fresh when it comes to CFB because your schtick is absolutely tired. My guess is that it won't happen and we'll all be in for another treat next year with some hard hitting analysis about how ND is irrelevant, OSU is overrated, UC should drop football and how CFB stinks. It's gonna be suhweet!

[GoMuskies]

Look to grade a conference based on bowl outcomes is stupid in my opinion.

How else do you do it? Bowl season is the only time there are a significant number of match ups between the better teams from the major conferences.

[paulxu]

How else do you do it? Bowl season is the only time there are a significant number of match ups between the better teams from the major conferences.

What the hell is wrong with you. This is no place for rational analysis.

I hope you straighten your act out in the New Year.

[GoMuskies]

Sorry paul. Go Alabama. Hope you win by 100 even though I bet on Ohio State.

And WTF was that Baylor?!?

[Masterofreality]

Apparently you do. You're like a broken record when it comes to CFB "I really don't care for college football" yet you have hundreds of posts on the topic every season. Do you root for anyone? Or do you take the stance of sitting back and banging on every team that everyone else roots for? You should look at 2015 as an opportunity to recharge the batteries and come back with something fresh when it comes to CFB because your schtick is absolutely tired. My guess is that it won't happen and we'll all be in for another treat next year with some hard hitting analysis about how ND is irrelevant, OSU is overrated, UC should drop football and how CFB stinks. It's gonna be suhweet!

No, I really don't. Hard to ignore college football though when it's crammed down your throat for 4 months, but I do the best I can. There are 876 posts in this thread. I maybe have 25-30 if that and the vast majority are about the foibles of bad pigskin play by that school in Clifton that is a wannabe D1 program. Sorry for being a hater.

The Notre Dame honks with their hubris amuse me though, and more specifically for Borecat football, I'm pissed that a state school, that is partially supported by my tax dollars are wasting those dollars on a large money losing proposition. Same for the MAC schools- on a more modest basis.

[GoMuskies]

Money most be pouring in on FSU late. The juice keeps moving in their direction. Oregon -7.5 is now +100.

[paulxu]

Every FSU player, at every position on offense, looks about 50 lbs bigger than the Oregon players on defense.

[Xville]

How else do you do it? Bowl season is the only time there are a significant number of match ups between the better teams from the major conferences.

Don't know but bowl season isn't the way to do it. Once again espn tries to make bowls more important than they actually are by showing conference bowl records it's so ridiculous. One, there are a lot of times when the team absolutely does not want to be there because of disappointment with how the season went etc. Two, it's not like the match ups are #2 ACC vs #2 big ten...it's more like #4 ACC vs #6 sec or something.to that effect. Now if the sec loses that game does it mean the conference isn't as good as what espn says? There are three games that matter, the rest of the bowl season is complete garbage propped up by sports.media that make them sound important when they aren't at all. Just my opinion.of course :)

[GoMuskies]

Under 74 looks good right about now. Granted, these teams could easily combine for 21 points in the next 5 minutes.

[GoMuskies]

I think the first half spread was 4.5. The difference was about 4 inches on that FG.

[X-band '01]

The MSU/Baylor game is exciting.

Especially if you're Baylor's kicker.

[paulxu]

Also, the Oregon team plays very fast on offense.

[paulxu]

Or, very, very fast.

[waggy]

Oregon's gonna score 74 off turnovers.

[xudash]

Crab legs.

[XUFan09]

I smell a comeback.

[XUFan09]

But seriously, what looked to be a competitive game midway through has really turned brutal.

[paulxu]

Hah! A Huggins/Gillen ending.

[GoMuskies]

Roll Tide!

[GoMuskies]

This live betting is pretty wild. Ohio State is already down to +3.5 at the first timeout, and I was able to put in a $5 bet that Ohio State would score a FG on this drive while OSU was lining up for second down.

[chico]

This live betting is pretty wild. Ohio State is already down to +3.5 at the first timeout, and I was able to put in a $5 bet that Ohio State would score a FG on this drive while OSU was lining up for second down.

That's one rabbit hole I don't need to go down.

[GoMuskies]

That's one rabbit hole I don't need to go down.

Yeah, I had no idea how extensive this was at certain sites. I'd been at another site for a long time, and all you could bet on live was game results. This new site has results of drives and what the first play of a drive is going to be (run, completed pass, etc.). Definitely a way to lose one's ass, but kind of fun so long as you have a very small budget for it.

[chico]

Just checked my site and all you can do is bet on the line. If you really know a team and its tendencies you might be able to clean up if you can bet on which type of play is going to be run. You're right - it is pretty extensive.

[xu82]

That's one rabbit hole I don't need to go down.

One man's rabbit hole is another man's retirement plan.

[Masterofreality]

I really don't care either way, but can someone explain to me why, when you have a 1st and goal from the freaking 2 yard line that you run plays from a shotgun 6 yards back?

If I'm a coach, I, at least have a package of plays from under center. You can't tell me that your line can't run block to gain 2 yards I n 3 plays from straight forward hand offs.

[Masterofreality]

And the rout begins.......

[D-West & PO-Z]

Roll damn tide

[Masterofreality]

And the rout continues......

[Masterofreality]

The rout is temporarily suspended.......

[Masterofreality]

The rout is now officially reversed.....

[xu82]

The rout seems to have a mind of it's own....

[GoMuskies]

Ohio State is +3.5 for the second half, which would be 4.5 for the game.

Tim Tebow is a better NFL QB than he is a college football analyst.

[xu82]

tim tebow is a better nfl qb than he is a college football analyst.
ouch!

[GoMuskies]

With that TD, this game is now officially a toss up according to the bookmakers.

[xu82]

Glad I'm not a TCU fan.

[GoMuskies]

Glad I'm not a TCU fan.

Better to be a TCU fan than an FSU fan today.

[Masterofreality]

With that TD, this game is now officially a toss up according to the bookmakers.

And the rout is eliminated.

[chico]

I love college football - even if it is costing me money tonight.

[xu82]

Better to be a TCU fan than an FSU fan today.

Oh, so true! My son is a senior there and had to leave the bar at halftime to finish the game at home. Every good bounce they got to finsih close games all season with a win went against them today. Seriously exposed. All the more argument for TCU. Play a championship game and you're in.

[GoMuskies]

Rout may be back on.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Wow, OSU is playing out of their minds.

[xu82]

And the rout is eliminated.

The rout is not what we thought it was....

[D-West & PO-Z]

Rout may be back on.


The rout is not what we thought it was....

The opposite rout has now been eliminated. Ha. Crazy back and forth here.

[GoMuskies]

Back to essentially being a tossup.

[xu82]

This rout is confusing me, but that's my natural state.... and I'm enjoying it immensely.

[SM#24]

All the more argument for TCU. Play a championship game and you're in.
Probably not since if the Big 12 had divisions and a championship game, you'd have to figure that TCU & Baylor would be in the same division and TCU would not have even been in the championship game. Since I can't imagine any scenario that would leave an undefeated FlaSt out of the 4 team playoff, the choice of OhioSt-Baylor-TCU for the last spot was really a no win/no lose situation; all three teams were equally deserving.

[GoMuskies]

I think TCU was much more deserving than Ohio State, but FSU was the problem. They never played like a top 4 team, but they never lost. It turns out that they didn't play an elite team all year (until today), and they struggled like crazy against the non-elite foes they did face. But as you say, there was really no way to keep them out even though it was pretty clear that they didn't belong.

[xu82]

Probably not since if the Big 12 had divisions and a championship game, you'd have to figure that TCU & Baylor would be in the same division and TCU would not have even been in the championship game. Since I can't imagine any scenario that would leave an undefeated FlaSt out of the 4 team playoff, the choice of OhioSt-Baylor-TCU for the last spot was really a no win/no lose situation; all three teams were equally deserving.

Could very well be. So what's the over/under on how many years until we go to 6 or 8 teams? I'd be ticked if we went from 3 to 6, then crushed the bowl game. Can't please everyone....

[Masterofreality]

As an observer who admittedly doesn't know much about College Football, I would suggest that if Ohio State wants to win, they decide to score again.

Just a suggestion.......

[xu82]

As an observer who admittedly doesn't know much about College Football, I would suggest that if Ohio State wants to win, they decide to score again.

Just a suggestion.......

THAT sounds like a terrific idea! I'd also stop making circus catches on punts...

[Xavgrad08]

Alabama's punter is impressive. This has been a fun game to watch.

[GoMuskies]

Alabama's punter is impressive.

Less so the Ohio State punter there.

[xu82]

Alabama's punter is impressive. This has been a fun game to watch.

OSU punter was less impressive.

[Masterofreality]

OSU punter was less impressive.

But their defensive back WAS impressive.

[Xavgrad08]

Huge pick after an awful punt. They need to stop showing weird matthew mcconaughey Lincoln commercials.

[GoMuskies]

Wow, that was REAL close to a safety.

[xu82]

Do we have another 20 yard punt in our future? Hard to be that bad twice.

[GoMuskies]

Huge break for Bama.

[xu82]

Wow, that was REAL close to a safety.

I watched the replay knowing he got out, and I still thought it would be a safety!

[GoMuskies]

After looking at the replay, that definitely could have gone either way. The punter didn't get hit particularly hard, so I see why they made that call.

[GoMuskies]

If Alabama wins, their punter might be the MVP.

[GoMuskies]

Ohio State on your standard 36-7 run.

[drudy23]

Take out the turnovers, and this game is a blowout. OSU is the better team. However, not over yet.

[xu82]

How does THAT happen? I thought it was pretty clear they might want to score fast.

[xu82]

Ohio State on your standard 36-7 run.

Just like your standard punter for MVP.

[GoMuskies]

Onside or no? Two timeouts left.

[drudy23]

I would.

[Xavier]

Take out the turnovers, and this game is a blowout. OSU is the better team. However, not over yet.

I think OSU is much better, this is the third string quarterback.

[xu82]

Damn! Great kick!

[GoMuskies]

Take out the turnovers, and this game is a blowout.

This is a one TD game, and Ohio State returned an interception for a TD, so.....

[Xavgrad08]

Why is OSU throwing?

[GoMuskies]

That deep pass was ballsy. Stupid, but ballsy.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Why is OSU throwing?

Yeah, who knows. That essentially gave alabama 3 timeouts

[GoMuskies]

I think Meyer has Alabama on the moneyline.

[drudy23]

They're gonna run outta time.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Wow, I did not see OSU winning this game. Credit to OSU and Urban.

[GoMuskies]

Hard to believe just how bad the SEC West performed in the post-season.

[OH.X.MI]

B1G BABY!!! Down with the sec!!!!!

[Strange Brew]

It's not hard Go. The SEC wasn't that good this year. Over-hyped per usual yes, good no.

Nice win for OSU and Meyer. Wish he and ND could have figured things out a decade ago.

[gladdenguy]

SEC West is awesome!!! Shut the $&@$ up ESPN.

[GoMuskies]

Oregon -7.5 in the title game. That was pretty prompt in getting the line out!

[vee4xu]

Go Bucks!!!!

[waggy]

Oregon -7.5 in the title game. That was pretty prompt in getting the line out!


It'll only go up I think.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Oregon is obviously much more talented on the offensive end than Alabama but I dont know much about their defense other than their best corner got hurt a couple weeks ago.

[GoMuskies]

It'll only go up I think.

I can't imagine betting against Oregon based on what I saw out of them today.

[D-West & PO-Z]

When is the championship game again?

[GoMuskies]

When is the championship game again?

January 12th

[drudy23]

Hard to tell if the Ducks are as good as they showed today since FSU was so sloppy. But they are scary on offense.

[D-West & PO-Z]

If OSU beats Oregon, what the hell do they do at QB next year? Good problem to have I guess.

[xudash]

Go Bucks!!!!

Well, that worked out well - - for some of us.

[waggy]

Oregon has blown just about every team they've played out. 38-31 is their closest win, but most are much much bigger numbers.

And somehow Arizona was able to beat them.

[OH.X.MI]

THE MIDWEST WILL RISE AGAIN! god I love watching the sec lose!!!

Sorry... Ive had a few

[paulxu]

Hats off to OSU for their win.
Good move to get Urban Meyer. That guy can coach.
Kudos to 3rd string QB in second start. Very impressive.
Should be a great game against the Ducks.
(The SEC will be back)

[Juice]

Hats off to OSU for their win.
Good move to get Urban Meyer. That guy can coach.
Kudos to 3rd string QB in second start. Very impressive.
Should be a great game against the Ducks.
(The SEC will be back)

I'm going to call bullshit on this third string narrative that OSU fans are pleasuring themselves to. Jones was the 12th ranked pro-style QB in his class according to rivals. He had offers from Penn State, Michigan, WVU, UC and many others. He's not some scrub.

[Cheesehead]

I'm going to call bullshit on this third string narrative that OSU fans are pleasuring themselves to. Jones was the 12th ranked pro-style QB in his class according to rivals. He had offers from Penn State, Michigan, WVU, UC and many others. He's not some scrub.

...and yet he was in fact, the third string QB. This is not revisionist history, the kid was third on the depth chart.

It's just the other two were pretty good too.

[GoMuskies]

I'm going to call bullshit on this third string narrative that OSU fans are pleasuring themselves to. Jones was the 12th ranked pro-style QB in his class according to rivals. He had offers from Penn State, Michigan, WVU, UC and many others. He's not some scrub.

I assume that just about every QB who gets an offer from Ohio State is pretty highly rated coming out of high school.

[ammtd34]

From what I understand, it was basically a coin flip when Miller went down. The way it played out, though, Jones was indeed the 3rd string QB.

[mohr5150]

I can't stand the SEC because I believe the majority of their athletic departments care very little about their student athletes, but I was pulling so hard for Alabama for one reason and one reason only: there is only one group of fans more obnoxious than OSU fans, and that is the UK fanbase. Unfortunately for me I have way more obnoxious friends and family members who are OSU fans than UK fans. What a horrible way to ruin my first day of 2015. And it was going so well with an X win and an FSU beat down.

[muskiefan82]

I can't stand the SEC because I believe the majority of their athletic departments care very little about their student athletes, but I was pulling so hard for Alabama for one reason and one reason only: there is only one group of fans more obnoxious than OSU fans, and that is the UK fanbase. Unfortunately for me I have way more obnoxious friends and family members who are OSU fans than UK fans. What a horrible way to ruin my first day of 2015. And it was going so well with an X win and an FSU beat down.

Sorry things are not going your way. If it makes you feel any better, think of how UC Football fans must feel about Ohio State beating Alabama.

[Juice]

I can't stand the SEC because I believe the majority of their athletic departments care very little about their student athletes, but I was pulling so hard for Alabama for one reason and one reason only: there is only one group of fans more obnoxious than OSU fans, and that is the UK fanbase. Unfortunately for me I have way more obnoxious friends and family members who are OSU fans than UK fans. What a horrible way to ruin my first day of 2015. And it was going so well with an X win and an FSU beat down.

Like Michigan who forced their players to practice more than the NCAA allowed or UNC that created fake classes so that their players stayed eligible? It's not an SEC issue, it's a college athletics issue.

[Masterofreality]

SEC West is awesome!!! Shut the $&@$ up ESPN.

Since the four letter network has a huge investment in the SEC Network, and by extension Paul Finebaum, I doubt that they will be "Shutting the $&@$ up" anytime soon. The bool sheet parade will continue.

[waggy]

I was amused by Herbstreits little rant at the end of the Rose bowl last night, that "America" can now stop calling Oregon soft. Like anyone in America builds strawman arguments, and talks out both sides of their mouths like ESPN. Hell, it's part of the business plan. Including Kirk's rant.

And some of the post game questions by the sideline reports makes me want to hire a sniper.

[Juice]

I was amused by Herbstreits little rant at the end of the Rose bowl last night, that "America" can now stop calling Oregon soft. Like anyone in America builds strawman arguments, and talks out both sides of their mouths like ESPN. Hell, it's part of the business plan. Including Kirk's rant.

And some of the post game questions by the sideline reports makes me want to hire a sniper.

They've completely propped up Danny Kannell for the last two years because they know everyone hates FSU and he provides a face for that school for their network. They know what they're doing because people are stupid but it's not exactly intelligent TV/debate.

[SM#24]

SEC East undefeated in bowl games with Fla to go

[GoMuskies]

Just a reminder to everyone that the GoDaddy Bowl is at 9 tonight. Arkansas State and Toledo. Make sure you don't miss it!

[paulxu]

SEC East undefeated in bowl games with Fla to go

That's a wrap.


Just a reminder to everyone that the GoDaddy Bowl is at 9 tonight. Arkansas State and Toledo. Make sure you don't miss it!

Will Danica be there?

[muskienick]

That's a wrap.



Will Danica be there?

Better yet --- will she be nekkid?

[waggy]

Oregon wide receiver Darren Carrington suspended for national title game
(http://www.csnnw.com/ducks/breaking-oregon-wide-receiver-darren-carrington-suspended-national-title-game)

You'd have to be loving life if you took OSU and the points early. Still might not work out, but you'd have to like your chances.