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xudash
05-21-2014, 03:52 PM
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/columnists/paul-daugherty/2014/05/20/daugherty-xavier-makes-chris-mack-feel-wanted/9326153/

paulxu
05-21-2014, 04:34 PM
Good Article By Doc

That's sort of like military intelligence, right?

xudash
05-21-2014, 09:52 PM
Ah, yes. Guilty of an oxymoron.

xu82
05-21-2014, 10:11 PM
I was going to reply "jumbo shrimp" - but then I read the article.

blobfan
05-22-2014, 01:06 PM
I was going to reply "jumbo shrimp" - but then I read the article.
Now why did you have to go and bring up Mick in this thread about a lovely article on our coach?
:P

Call me polyanna but I really think Mack will stick around at least until he can take X to a Final Four. I think it's a personal challenge and as long as he feels X is supporting that goal, he will stay. Aside from him saying that outright several times since he was hired, it also shows in the way he seems to value assistant coach salaries as much as his own. I think each time his contract has been updated he's made a point of saying that the assistants and other team support increased along with his salary. Articles like this just make me more confident that he'll be here for the long haul. He's a young guy and has plenty of time to meet this personal goal and still move to one of those elusive big time destination jobs and have a full career there.

Of course, in coaching these days 'the long haul' is maybe 10 full years at X and he's halfway through that. So I don't think my expectations are unreasonable. I just don't think he's going to jump at the next good offer that comes down the pike.

PMI
05-22-2014, 01:53 PM
Now why did you have to go and bring up Mick in this thread about a lovely article on our coach?
:P

Call me polyanna but I really think Mack will stick around at least until he can take X to a Final Four. I think it's a personal challenge and as long as he feels X is supporting that goal, he will stay. Aside from him saying that outright several times since he was hired, it also shows in the way he seems to value assistant coach salaries as much as his own. I think each time his contract has been updated he's made a point of saying that the assistants and other team support increased along with his salary. Articles like this just make me more confident that he'll be here for the long haul. He's a young guy and has plenty of time to meet this personal goal and still move to one of those elusive big time destination jobs and have a full career there.

Of course, in coaching these days 'the long haul' is maybe 10 full years at X and he's halfway through that. So I don't think my expectations are unreasonable. I just don't think he's going to jump at the next good offer that comes down the pike.

He came very close to jumping for Cal, and arguably pretty close to jumping for Wake Forest, not exactly a couple of blue bloods. If the next offer is a really good one, I doubt the fact that he hasn't taken Xavier to a Final Four is going to tip the scale. Of course he can just take care of that this year by getting us to the last weekend and I'll be happy. It's OK to be optimistic about Mack being around for awhile, as long as you are prepared to handle the disappointment if and when he leaves. Personally, I'm done putting ANY faith in a coach being in it for "the right reasons" or any of that nonsense. If he's as coveted as his predecessors were, we will almost certainly lose him. At least that would mean we're doing well.

blobfan
05-22-2014, 04:23 PM
He came very close to jumping for Cal, and arguably pretty close to jumping for Wake Forest, not exactly a couple of blue bloods. If the next offer is a really good one, I doubt the fact that he hasn't taken Xavier to a Final Four is going to tip the scale. Of course he can just take care of that this year by getting us to the last weekend and I'll be happy. It's OK to be optimistic about Mack being around for awhile, as long as you are prepared to handle the disappointment if and when he leaves. Personally, I'm done putting ANY faith in a coach being in it for "the right reasons" or any of that nonsense. If he's as coveted as his predecessors were, we will almost certainly lose him. At least that would mean we're doing well.

My choice of the word 'good' was deliberate. I intentionally didn't say 'great' or 'very good.' I never expect a coach to stay forever. I'm one of those emotional fans that complain about HOW our previous coaches left. Not why. I don't blame either of them for leaving for great offers and wouldn't blame Mack for doing so either. I'm just reading the tea leaves and think right now it would have to be really great for him to leave given all the intangibles in place.

muskienick
05-22-2014, 04:54 PM
He came very close to jumping for Cal, and arguably pretty close to jumping for Wake Forest, not exactly a couple of blue bloods. If the next offer is a really good one, I doubt the fact that he hasn't taken Xavier to a Final Four is going to tip the scale. Of course he can just take care of that this year by getting us to the last weekend and I'll be happy. It's OK to be optimistic about Mack being around for awhile, as long as you are prepared to handle the disappointment if and when he leaves. Personally, I'm done putting ANY faith in a coach being in it for "the right reasons" or any of that nonsense. If he's as coveted as his predecessors were, we will almost certainly lose him. At least that would mean we're doing well.

Chris is nobody's dummy. Cal is not exactly a UCLA, UNC, Duke, or Kentucky. Nobody would ever think twice if a Muskie coach would jump at the chance to coach at one of those 4 places. Furthermore, Cal's location would require quite a big disparity in salary due to the cost of living differential between Berkeley and the Cincinnati Metro area. And getting to a final 4 there would probably be every bit as big a challenge (if not more) than making it as one of the better teams in the Big East on an annual basis (which Xavier will likely be)!

D-West & PO-Z
05-22-2014, 05:18 PM
He came very close to jumping for Cal, and arguably pretty close to jumping for Wake Forest, not exactly a couple of blue bloods. If the next offer is a really good one, I doubt the fact that he hasn't taken Xavier to a Final Four is going to tip the scale. Of course he can just take care of that this year by getting us to the last weekend and I'll be happy. It's OK to be optimistic about Mack being around for awhile, as long as you are prepared to handle the disappointment if and when he leaves. Personally, I'm done putting ANY faith in a coach being in it for "the right reasons" or any of that nonsense. If he's as coveted as his predecessors were, we will almost certainly lose him. At least that would mean we're doing well.

My thoughts as well.

I wont be naive enough to think Mack wont leave because he is from here and an XU guy and he feels some responsibility towards XU. It wont shock me if he stays for several more years, but it wont shock me if he leaves after next either.

If he does leave (which he most likely will sometime) I just hope it isnt in a year with a monster recruiting class.

danaandvictory
05-22-2014, 05:37 PM
Chris is nobody's dummy. Cal is not exactly a UCLA, UNC, Duke, or Kentucky. Nobody would ever think twice if a Muskie coach would jump at the chance to coach at one of those 4 places. Furthermore, Cal's location would require quite a big disparity in salary due to the cost of living differential between Berkeley and the Cincinnati Metro area. And getting to a final 4 there would probably be every bit as big a challenge (if not more) than making it as one of the better teams in the Big East on an annual basis (which Xavier will likely be)!

That makes logical sense, but the reality is that he (a) seriously considered accepting the position, and (b) a number of program insiders were convinced he was going to take the job.

paulxu
05-22-2014, 08:21 PM
Maybe he's just a good poker player.

xudash
05-22-2014, 11:08 PM
I feel confident that Chris Mack will be at Xavier for years to come, and by that I mean at least 5 years.

I believe he'll be at Xavier longer should he - we - experience the kind of success the school is aspiring to achieve now.

xu82
05-22-2014, 11:27 PM
I feel confident that Chris Mack will be at Xavier for years to come, and by that I mean at least 5 years.

I believe he'll be at Xavier longer should he - we - experience the kind of success the school is aspiring to achieve now.

I actually agree with you and feel confident about a solid 5 years. I can't support that with any kind of reasonable argument, but I just have a gut feeling that we get at least 5 years. New contract, great incoming class that will take some time, Cincy ties, etc. I'm excited about the future and refuse to focus on the gloomy side (as of this moment - but subject to change). Of course, I'm wrong all the time. My wife and kids will testify to that.

xu82
05-22-2014, 11:27 PM
OK, maybe four years.... change happens

waggy
05-23-2014, 03:06 AM
I agree, I think he's gonna stick around for a while longer.

A lot can change in four or five years. It could evolve into a lifer.

Congrats to all parties..

kyxu
05-23-2014, 05:26 AM
I would be stunned if Chris Mack was still at Xavier when members of this incoming class graduate.

Masterofreality
05-23-2014, 05:45 AM
Chris is nobody's dummy. Cal is not exactly a UCLA, UNC, Duke, or Kentucky. Nobody would ever think twice if a Muskie coach would jump at the chance to coach at one of those 4 places. Furthermore, Cal's location would require quite a big disparity in salary due to the cost of living differential between Berkeley and the Cincinnati Metro area. And getting to a final 4 there would probably be every bit as big a challenge (if not more) than making it as one of the better teams in the Big East on an annual basis (which Xavier will likely be)!


That makes logical sense, but the reality is that he (a) seriously considered accepting the position, and (b) a number of program insiders were convinced he was going to take the job.

You guys do know that his wife is pregnant again, right? No way he was leaving this time for either of those places with that going on. He was NOT going to Cal, although he has admitted that they do like the area. Hell, who doesn't like the Bay Area?

The poker player analogy by Paul is right on. As opposed to the desert raccoon who had his wife crying when he accepted the job, CMack has a little more empathy for his other half. He was not putting her through a move now.

Fireball
05-23-2014, 08:07 AM
You guys do know that his wife is pregnant again, right? No way he was leaving this time for either of those places with that going on. He was NOT going to Cal, although he has admitted that they do like the area. Hell, who doesn't like the Bay Area?

The poker player analogy by Paul is right on. As opposed to the desert raccoon who had his wife crying when he accepted the job, CMack has a little more empathy for his other half. He was not putting her through a move now.

I honestly think that Christi's pregnancy had a ton to do with him not taking the Cal job. They have a great support system here, and to ask her to take care of a baby and the two girls in a brand new city on the other side of the country, in a job where he is away from home a ton, would simply not have been reasonable.

I think Chris likes it here, but I think there are some things that are causing him to seriously consider leaving. My guess is that the baby puts that on pause for a few years.

muskienick
05-23-2014, 08:17 AM
That makes logical sense, but the reality is that he (a) seriously considered accepting the position, and (b) a number of program insiders were convinced he was going to take the job.

But in the end --- Chris Mack decided Xavier was still the place for him!

muskienick
05-23-2014, 08:42 AM
You guys do know that his wife is pregnant again, right? No way he was leaving this time for either of those places with that going on. He was NOT going to Cal, although he has admitted that they do like the area. Hell, who doesn't like the Bay Area?

The poker player analogy by Paul is right on. As opposed to the desert raccoon who had his wife crying when he accepted the job, CMack has a little more empathy for his other half. He was not putting her through a move now.

That was one of the numerous variables that Coach Mack mentioned in the articles announcing his extension. But to suggest that he would have left had the Macks not been expecting their third child is a bit presumptuous. Chris is a goal oriented individual and he has his sights set on the first Final Four for Xavier in its history. When our previous five coaches left, there was less likelihood of them being able to recruit well enough to take XU to the "Promised Land." Now that the Muskies are in the Big East, a head coach at Xavier can compete for better players than he could as a member of the MCC or A-10. Furthermore, previous Xavier coaches did not have immediate family and in-laws who lived in the tri-state area like Chris and his wife do. And none of our previous coaches and assistants were paid like our present ones are now being paid. There is now less of a need for a Xavier head coach to move to Winston Salem, Providence, Columbus, Tucson, or even Berkeley to reach his goals. Chris might not wind up being a "lifer" at Xavier. But I see him more as a Pete Gillen (9 years as XU's head coach) than as a Thad Matta (3 years as XU's head coach).

GoMuskies
05-23-2014, 08:43 AM
The kind of money Chris was going to be making at Cal could have bought a very nice support system.

GoMuskies
05-23-2014, 08:46 AM
previous Xavier coaches did not have immediate family and in-laws who lived in the tri-state area like Chris and his wife do

All the more reason to leave in my opinion. I thank God every morning that I wake up in a city 700 miles from my in-laws.

muskienick
05-23-2014, 08:47 AM
The kind of money Chris was going to be making at Cal could have bought a very nice support system.

Nannies and maids don't replace Grandmas and Grandpas! And I do believe that Chris is making a pretty decent amount of cash now as Muskie head coach, especially considering the cost of living in the Greater Cincinnati area.

muskienick
05-23-2014, 08:50 AM
All the more reason to leave in my opinion. I thank God every morning that I wake up in a city 700 miles from my in-laws.

Not every son-in-law feels like you. And I suspect that almost everyone's wife would not want to be that far from her folks. (But I am happy that you are happy.)

GoMuskies
05-23-2014, 08:51 AM
Not every son-in-law feels like you.

I suspect quite a few do but just have not been as fortunate as me. :smile:

paulxu
05-23-2014, 09:12 AM
I suspect quite a few do but just have not been as fortunate as me. :smile:

Is your wife's name lindahelene?

GoMuskies
05-23-2014, 09:16 AM
Is your wife's name lindahelene?

How did you know?

My wife's family is actually great...but they like to get together way too much. I see them just the right amount being 700 miles away.

PMI
05-23-2014, 10:07 AM
I hope all of the optimism in this thread is rewarded with many great years under Chris Mack, but by all reliable accounts, we were legitimately close to losing him to a program that is much lesser than the programs our two previous coaches left for. Whether he was kicking tires as a negotiation tactic doesn't make that much of a difference, because if they had called his bluff he may well have left. But that aside, it sounds like he had legitimate temptations and at the very least, had to think long and hard about it. Next time around, the opening might be a REALLY good one that is even higher paying and harder to pass up. All I'm saying is I'm not going to allow myself to be suckered by yet another Xavier coach, and I don't mean that as a shot at Mack or any of our other coaches, as they have to do what is best for their careers and lives, but also have to say the right things. I remember the many posters who thought Sean wanted to stay at Xavier for a long time and take us to new levels and that he wasn't about chasing the money and was happy in Cincinnati and so on. I remember buying into it myself at one point. I guess my point is, I'm just not going to put any weight whatsoever in contract extensions or company lines or wives' pregnancies, and I'm always going to be nervous when good programs take interest in our coach, because at the end of the day, none of us have a clue how long he will be here, or what kind of job it will take to lure him away.

blobfan
05-23-2014, 10:48 AM
I'd rather live with optimism and be disappointed than be reminded 'he may leave' every time the future of the program is discussed.

xudash
05-23-2014, 11:01 AM
I hope all of the optimism in this thread is rewarded with many great years under Chris Mack, but by all reliable accounts, we were legitimately close to losing him to a program that is much lesser than the programs our two previous coaches left for. Whether he was kicking tires as a negotiation tactic doesn't make that much of a difference, because if they had called his bluff he may well have left. But that aside, it sounds like he had legitimate temptations and at the very least, had to think long and hard about it. Next time around, the opening might be a REALLY good one that is even higher paying and harder to pass up. All I'm saying is I'm not going to allow myself to be suckered by yet another Xavier coach, and I don't mean that as a shot at Mack or any of our other coaches, as they have to do what is best for their careers and lives, but also have to say the right things. I remember the many posters who thought Sean wanted to stay at Xavier for a long time and take us to new levels and that he wasn't about chasing the money and was happy in Cincinnati and so on. I remember buying into it myself at one point. I guess my point is, I'm just not going to put any weight whatsoever in contract extensions or company lines or wives' pregnancies, and I'm always going to be nervous when good programs take interest in our coach, because at the end of the day, none of us have a clue how long he will be here, or what kind of job it will take to lure him away.

Your points and reasoning are valid. One of the very great things Xavier is known for - the ability to bring in good coach after good coach after good coach, etc. - also is the reason we're so pensive around here when it comes to this topic.

Life is fluid; life is dynamic, right? Yes, things can change. But there is one thing that is an absolute fact right now: there is peace on Victory Parkway. They're all happy and rowing in the same direction up there. They're all working FOR the future of Xavier basketball.

And it's going to take some ridiculous opportunity that is more than just about a lot of money to disrupt what has now been put into place.

BTW, if stipends are coming - if "compensation" or allowances in some form are on the way - I can't see coaches remuneration spiralling out of control from here. We'll have to deal with it as well, but the Big 5 schools will have to deal with it on a truly large basis.

throwbackmuskie
05-23-2014, 11:40 AM
I said it before and I will say it again, Chris is not going anywhere. As long as Xavier will keep him as coach he will be here. And to those who say "then why does he look at other jobs?" First they come talk to him, and it would be dumb not to at least listen.

paulxu
05-23-2014, 12:02 PM
One of these days Muskie is going to threaten to move this site.
Say to a sunnier/friendlier climate like South Carolina.
Then what?

So all you bozos should sacrifice a couple beers and become a supporting member.
We don't want to play poker with this site.

PMI
05-23-2014, 12:22 PM
I said it before and I will say it again, Chris is not going anywhere. As long as Xavier will keep him as coach he will be here. And to those who say "then why does he look at other jobs?" First they come talk to him, and it would be dumb not to at least listen.

I think that's a very naive stance, honestly. In any case, there's no way of knowing at all. Even if you are Chris Mack himself, nobody can completely predict the future. That's why I don't worry about it until the wheels start turning in the offseasons, at which point I lose sleep. I would love nothing more than to see Chris turn down the kind of enormous job that his predecessors left for and go on to be our Coach K. But I'm sure not willing to put money on it.

throwbackmuskie
05-23-2014, 12:24 PM
I think that's a very naive stance, honestly. In any case, there's no way of knowing at all. Even if you are Chris Mack himself, nobody can completely predict the future. That's why I don't worry about it until the wheels start turning in the offseasons, at which point I lose sleep. I would love nothing more than to see Chris turn down the kind of enormous job that his predecessors left for and go on to be our Coach K. But I'm sure not willing to put money on it.

I will put money on it. And it is only naive if you don't have things to back up statements...

GoMuskies
05-23-2014, 12:28 PM
I will put money on it. And it is only naive if you don't have things to back up statements...

I think that if Chris Mack himself told you he was never leaving after taking a truth serum injection you'd still be naïve to believe it.

throwbackmuskie
05-23-2014, 12:37 PM
I think that if Chris Mack himself told you he was never leaving after taking a truth syrum injection you'd still be naïve to believe it.

You all are free to believe what you guys want. I am able to do the same.

MHettel
05-23-2014, 01:23 PM
You all are free to believe what you guys want. I am able to do the same.

I beleive that sleeping with a wooden nickel under your pillow will allow your body to digest tree bark. My food bill has gone down dramatically, but my ass may never be the same.

PMI
05-23-2014, 01:24 PM
I will put money on it. And it is only naive if you don't have things to back up statements...

That is kind of the point though. Regardless of how connected you may be, you don't have anything to back up the statements. Neither do I nor anyone else. You are certainly free to believe what you want. I hope you're right. I just don't see how anyone can claim to be able to predict the future with such certainty.

throwbackmuskie
05-23-2014, 01:29 PM
That is kind of the point though. Regardless of how connected you may be, you don't have anything to back up the statements. Neither do I nor anyone else. You are certainly free to believe what you want. I hope you're right. I just don't see how anyone can claim to be able to predict the future with such certainty.

Because I know what I know. :)

PMI
05-23-2014, 01:38 PM
Because I know what I know. :)

I guess I'll just take your word for it then! If you don't mind, I'd also like this year's Super Bowl winner and a heads up on the next super stock.

throwbackmuskie
05-23-2014, 01:39 PM
I guess I'll just take your word for it then! If you don't mind, I'd also like this year's Super Bowl winner and a heads up on the next super stock.

Only if you give me 50% of your winnings/earnings.

casualfan
05-23-2014, 01:59 PM
Only if you give me 50% of your winnings/earnings.

I'll bet you the right to post on this site he's gone sometime in the next three years (I actually think it will be quicker than that).

If he leaves sometimes in the next three years you can't post here anymore. If he stays I won't post here anymore. Deal?

Despite what has been said publicly there are still major issues between Chris and the administration.

throwbackmuskie
05-23-2014, 02:02 PM
I'll bet you the right to post on this site he's gone sometime in the next three years (I actually think it will be quicker than that).

If he leaves sometimes in the next three years you can't post here anymore. If he stays I won't post here anymore. Deal?

Despite what has been said publicly there are still major issues between Chris and the administration.

I will bet. And I will be here for a long time as well. EAsy "money"

Masterofreality
05-23-2014, 03:17 PM
One of these days Muskie is going to threaten to move this site.
Say to a sunnier/friendlier climate like South Carolina.
Then what?

So all you bozos should sacrifice a couple beers and become a supporting member.
We don't want to play poker with this site.

This. But to Charleston...or Isle of Palms.

Olsingledigit
05-24-2014, 04:01 PM
This. But to Charleston...or Isle of Palms.

We have a place in Pawleys Island, just an hour and fifteen minutes up the road from Isle of Palms and Charleston. Beautiful area. We get there as often as we can.

paulxu
05-24-2014, 04:15 PM
It's hard to top the beach at Kiawah where we are this week. But I could be talked into house sitting at Pawley's when you aren't there.

xu82
05-24-2014, 04:23 PM
It's hard to top the beach at Kiawah where we are this week. But I could be talked into house sitting at Pawley's when you aren't there.

I could be talked into watching over the house sitter.
I love that whole area.

Masterofreality
05-24-2014, 06:19 PM
We have a place in Pawleys Island, just an hour and fifteen minutes up the road from Isle of Palms and Charleston. Beautiful area. We get there as often as we can.

Ever want to rent that out for a week?

Muskie
05-24-2014, 07:42 PM
We have a place in Pawleys Island, just an hour and fifteen minutes up the road from Isle of Palms and Charleston. Beautiful area. We get there as often as we can.

Shhhhhh don't tell my Wife.

Olsingledigit
05-26-2014, 11:57 AM
Glad to see so many Muskies in the Pawleys Island area. Sorry but we don't rent it out. We are probably there four months or so a year. I finally upgraded my cable there so I have FS1 and FS2 now to catch the Muskies.

Fireball
05-26-2014, 11:59 AM
I love Pawley's. My aunt and uncle have a house there, and I spent so many of my childhood summers there.

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The Piper
05-23-2017, 09:49 AM
I'll bet you the right to post on this site he's gone sometime in the next three years (I actually think it will be quicker than that).

If he leaves sometimes in the next three years you can't post here anymore. If he stays I won't post here anymore. Deal?

Despite what has been said publicly there are still major issues between Chris and the administration.

Alas.

The day of reckoning is upon us.

Coach Mack has less than four hours to take another job. Otherwise, a payday is in order.

Changes are coming. One way or another.

Stay tuned.

THRILLHOUSE
05-23-2017, 09:55 AM
Alas.

The day of reckoning is upon us.

Coach Mack has less than four hours to take another job. Otherwise, a payday is in order.

Changes are coming. One way or another.

Stay tuned.

HA! Oh man, welp CasualFan, it was good knowing ya.

AviatorX
05-23-2017, 09:56 AM
HA! Oh man, welp CasualFan, it was good knowing ya.

Amazing Internet development we have on our hands here. Such follow up.

X-ceptional
05-23-2017, 10:45 AM
Alas.

The day of reckoning is upon us.

Coach Mack has less than four hours to take another job. Otherwise, a payday is in order.

Changes are coming. One way or another.

Stay tuned.

The Piper! Just outstanding...

Now is the winter of our discontent (i.e., the offseason)
Made glorious summer by this post.

D-West & PO-Z
05-23-2017, 11:00 AM
Wow great stuff, and great memory.

Muskie
05-23-2017, 11:04 AM
I'll need to do an IP check.


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D-West & PO-Z
05-23-2017, 11:51 AM
I'll need to do an IP check.


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Could it be casualfan calling himself out (as a new poster) before anyone else does and using this new name to post?

The Piper
05-23-2017, 12:16 PM
The hour of reckoning has fallen upon us.

The clock is ticking and there will be a party held responsible to pay.

Coach Mack, like Bluiett, may be coyly taking his decision to the eleventh hour. Intel on this has proven most difficult to seize, like the rat king of Lower Suxony.

The wait is short now, but will feel long.

The Piper
05-23-2017, 01:15 PM
The final buzzer has sounded. Fates have been sealed.

waggy
05-23-2017, 09:56 PM
Ban him!

X Factor
05-23-2017, 10:26 PM
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Snipe
05-23-2017, 10:45 PM
Piper, I think that is incredible. I also think it is interesting your only three posts are on this thread.

I think Mack could leave some day, I have said it before.

I love Chris Mack and I want him to retire here.

Louisville pays Pitino over 5 million a year. I think they are the greatest threat. I can't believe that guy still has a job. He had a sex scandal, that was bad, but so what. Guys have sex and he was being blackmailed.

But the prostitution scandal should have brought him down. Paying hookers for recruits, some of whom are under the age of 18 should have gotten him put in jail. Not that they could trace it back to him, but really, it is his program.

We are very lucky that Louisville doesn't come offering someone a contract. They could offer someone a 10 year 50 million dollar contract.

To be honest, I love you guys, but I would take that contract. And Chris Mack probably should too. And he is a stand up guy that wouldn't buy prostitutes for minors. Unless you think that sleaze is so embedded that even if you changed the coach the machine would roll on, and that could happen.

And U of L has the finest facility in the nation. Mack wouldn't even sell his house. Louisville is that close. He could come back for all family events and still see his friends. He would be a big man.

Louisville is my nightmare scenario, so do me a favor and root for Pitino. And the best part is, he isn't even on their fans radar. Their fans wouldn't be talking up Mack if Pitino was out tomorrow. He has never made a Final Four. Who is he? But that might not secure us. If Mack gets us Top Ten recruiting classes at Xavier, imagine him at the Yum. It would be off the hook. Game over. And he already recruits this area. They are the Xavier nightmare. All hail the Pimp!

I am so glad to have Chris Mack. He is a family man. Social media gives us a window. He could fake it obviously, but Chris Mack isn't fake. Some people said Matta was fake. He wasn't fake, he just isn't fully human. Sort of a plastic composite with human entrails put in to appear more lifelike.

He is a Cincinnati guy and he is King of Cincinnati. He loves the Reds and Bengals, and that means something. Other coaches can get private box invitations, but they are just watching a game. He is watching his teams. He also has lifelong friends that knew him before he was a millionaire. He can pick up the tap with people that he knows that are his people through and through, not just sycophants. His family is here, her family is here, and he has the money to make material improvements in the lives of his tribe and see them reap the benefits. It has to be satisfying.

It is good to be King.

I love the man. He has my full throated endorsement. Chris Mack Is King. I am Snipe, and I approve of this message.

My dark vision of Louisville won't go away though. They have the best arena in college ball and a Blue Chip National Program. Once they tire of the sleazeball, and start looking around I hope they get another Itallian salesman like coach Cal or Ricky Pitino. If they come for Mack I fear we are screwed. And if he signs a 50 million dollar contract, as he does in my nightmares, it would be hard for you to blame him.

He was never going to Cal. Our last two coaches went to Ohio State and Arizona. Both schools have more money than sense. I can only imagine the august President of the University of Louisville addressing the press about how his school provided prostitutes to minors. Imagine what you have to go through to be a University President. And imagine having to take those questions. At least it pays well.

I think I am drunk and I need to stop now. At least on this thread.

The Piper
05-24-2017, 08:59 AM
He who has put himself in the ultimate debt has blatantly refused to pay.

He treats this as a game. Believes that ignoring the problem will make it go away. Believes that the distractions of Kerem Kanter's historic announcement will cause us to forget.

But the music is ready to be played and the people demand justice. The Piper does not work for free.

A deal is a deal. Visible binding contract. I command amends.

MuskieXU
05-24-2017, 09:01 AM
I think I could count on one hand the schools Mack would leave Xavier for, and 4 of those 5 would likely never hire him. The fifth, and one I'm worried about, is Louisville.

throwbackmuskie
05-24-2017, 09:14 AM
LOL forgot all about this!. See ya causalfan.

Ohionite_X
05-24-2017, 09:16 AM
I think I could count on one hand the schools Mack would leave Xavier for, and 4 of those 5 would likely never hire him. The fifth, and one I'm worried about, is Louisville.

Any chance that Louisville just skips over to Richard Pitino if he has a lot of success at Minnesota between now and his dad's retirement?

MuskieXU
05-24-2017, 09:42 AM
Any chance that Louisville just skips over to Richard Pitino if he has a lot of success at Minnesota between now and his dad's retirement?

Yeah for sure. Pitinos only 64 so he could have 5 or 10 years left. When he retires, I think they'll take the best guy they can get, which may or may not be Mack. But if they offer Mack, I think he would probably take it.

GoMuskies
05-24-2017, 09:45 AM
Yeah for sure. Pitinos only 64 so he could have 5 or 10 years left. When he retires, I think they'll take the best guy they can get, which may or may not be Mack. But if they offer Mack, I think he would probably take it.

If it's really 10 years from now, and Mack is still at Xavier, I think he'd be a lot less likely to move at that point. If they offered him in the next few years, probably gone.

xudash
05-24-2017, 09:53 AM
Any chance that Louisville just skips over to Richard Pitino if he has a lot of success at Minnesota between now and his dad's retirement?

Would seem to at least partially depend upon Pitino's clout as he's leaving and RP's level of success at MN. prior to the opportunity arising.

And now you may refer to me as Captain Obvious.

X-man
05-24-2017, 09:54 AM
Any chance that Louisville just skips over to Richard Pitino if he has a lot of success at Minnesota between now and his dad's retirement?

Ask "The Piper". He sure seems in the know.

Masterofreality
05-24-2017, 03:16 PM
Ah, the "Piper"....-amazingly similar posts to "The Bull" and also "The Matador".

Cryptic rules.

GoMuskies
05-24-2017, 03:32 PM
I knew this thread had to be old since it was about a "good" article written by that dickhead Paul D.

X-man
05-24-2017, 04:44 PM
I knew this thread had to be old since it was about a "good" article written by that dickhead Paul D.

Has that dickhead EVER written anything worth reading???

paulxu
05-24-2017, 05:02 PM
All the more reason to leave in my opinion. I thank God every morning that I wake up in a city 700 miles from my in-laws.


I suspect quite a few do but just have not been as fortunate as me. :smile:


Is your wife's name lindahelene?

I was going back through this thread and saw these post. I have absolutely no idea what the hell I was talking about.

throwbackmuskie
06-05-2017, 01:39 PM
I'll bet you the right to post on this site he's gone sometime in the next three years (I actually think it will be quicker than that).

If he leaves sometimes in the next three years you can't post here anymore. If he stays I won't post here anymore. Deal?

Despite what has been said publicly there are still major issues between Chris and the administration.

Man up, you created the bet, now man up

GoMuskies
06-05-2017, 01:42 PM
Would be kind of crazy if Mack is hired away by Ohio State two weeks after casualfan's bet time expired. It would suck for all other purposes, but it would be funny here.

paulxu
06-05-2017, 01:58 PM
Would be kind of crazy if Mack is hired away by Ohio State two weeks after he casualfan's bet time expired. It would suck for all other purposes, but it would be funny here.

I'm blaming you if you jinxed this baby.

throwbackmuskie
06-05-2017, 02:47 PM
Mack isn't leaving.

But CF should be leaving, the whole bet was his idea.

Xtemporaneous
06-05-2017, 03:13 PM
Yes the only job he's leaving for is UofL. Similar family conditions as here. Since Tre is coming back I truly feel that this will be a great window of opportunity for him to get through the door - FF.

OSU's cupboard is bare and I mean BARE. It would be a hell of a rebuilding project up there.