Where will Semaj get Drafted? (The Pro prospects Thread)

[Muskie]

Because we haven't talked about this topic enough since March...

[Xman95]

Mid- to late-second round, if at all (although I suspect some team will roll the dice at that point given his natural abilities). Drafted or undrafted, I suspect he'll go to camp with an NBA team, but I don't expect him to be on an NBA roster when next season starts. D-League or overseas.

[Muskie]

Honestly. There's nothing wrong with that. It appears guys like Justin Doellman, Josh Duncan, and Stanley Burrell are making good money playing a sport they love overseas.

[Muskie]

Anyone have a link to a complete and official looking list of who is eligible to be in this year's NBA draft? I'd have to think at this point that there are more underclassman declared (ignoring Seniors) than there are spots to be drafted?

[Milhouse]

I'm just flabbergasted that people don't think he will get drafted. He's a no risk second round pick.

[THRILLHOUSE]

Anyone have a link to a complete and official looking list of who is eligible to be in this year's NBA draft? I'd have to think at this point that there are more underclassman declared (ignoring Seniors) than there are spots to be drafted?

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24510138/college-players-leaving-early-for-the-nba-draft

[Muskie]

How do Semaj's draft chances look compared to either of the Harrison brothers (assuming they declare out of KY)?

[nuts4xu]

http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2014/4/16/5619094/2014-nba-draft-early-entry-list

[Muskie]

I've seen reference to some sort of NBA underclassman advisory committee, so at least there's some indication from "experts" on draft status. Though I have a hard time seeing it so thorough.

[Xman95]

Honestly. There's nothing wrong with that. It appears guys like Justin Doellman, Josh Duncan, and Stanley Burrell are making good money playing a sport they love overseas.

Agreed. But I also don't think guys like Doellman and Duncan were really expecting to land in the NBA. They also stayed four years. Semaj has stated that he was leaving to pursue his dream of playing in the NBA. Well, if I realized that the decision I was making was actually a hindrance to reaching my dream, I would probably change that decision. Another year would have vaulted him into the first round, assuming he proved he could shoot and run a team as PG. Now, the counter to that would be, "what if he didn't improve as a shooter and wasn't able to show he was an elite PG?" Obviously another year of same old, same old would hurt his NBA stock. But, without a jumper and ability to lead as a PG, he won't be in the NBA whether he goes now or waits. But what would he miss out on in that scenario, one year of D-League money?

Scenario 1: stay in school, develop, be 1st Rd pick
Scenario 2: stay in school, don't develop, don't get drafted and wind up in D-League or overseas after Junior year
Scenario 3: same as 2, but finish career at X and go D-League/overseas after senior season
Scenario 4: stay in draft, go somewhere in the second round, wind up in D-League or overseas
Scenario 5: stay in draft, absolutely wow NBA folks in camp, stick with NBA team

Yes, that's probably overly simplified, but you get the point. Of those five, I think 3 and 5 are the least likely. So if he comes back and nothing changes, he loses out on one year of D-League or overseas money. If he comes back and improves, he's probably in Rd 1 making guaranteed NBA money.

I wish him the best, but I think this was a dumb decision unless he absolutely had to make money this year, regardless of the amount. But, given that he was going back and forth lately, it means returning was a legit option so he probably could wait one year. Ultimately I think it's a mistake, but I also hope he proves me wrong.

[nuts4xu]

Yes, that's probably overly simplified, but you get the point. Of those five, I think 3 and 5 are the least likely. So if he comes back and nothing changes, he loses out on one year of D-League or overseas money.


He wouldn't miss out on much if he loses out on one year of D-League money, those guys don't make shit...

"Salaries remain flat: $25,500, $19,000 and $13,000 for the league's three player classifications, which means D-League players are virtually playing for free -- and a modest per diem on the road of $40 compared to $120 in the NBA -- although they do receive housing and insurance benefits."

[Xman95]

I'm just flabbergasted that people don't think he will get drafted. He's a no risk second round pick.

Here's the problem. As fans, we often look at what a player does well, especially if it helps us at the college level. Pro teams/scouts tend to take the other approach. Yes, the look at and project potential, but they are also very big on pointing out the negatives. For Semaj, there still seems to be too much in that "negative" column. Based on what he has shown so far: he can't shoot, he hasn't proven he can run a team at PG, he can't go to his left very well, he was solid defensively but not good enough to offset other weaknesses, his decision-making is questionable.

Obviously we don't like to see that kind of stuff because we want the kid to succeed. But that's the kind of stuff they'll dwell on before the draft. Jobs and careers are at stake for people making the decisions so they often take the approach with the least risk. I agree that he's a low-risk option in the second round because of the things that would go in the "positive" column and the fact that the contract wouldn't be guaranteed. But there are a lot of guys in that same group this year. Once you hit Rd 2 it will just depend on what certain teams are looking to gamble on.

[Xman95]

He wouldn't miss out on much if he loses out on one year of D-League money, those guys don't make shit...

"Salaries remain flat: $25,500, $19,000 and $13,000 for the league's three player classifications, which means D-League players are virtually playing for free -- and a modest per diem on the road of $40 compared to $120 in the NBA -- although they do receive housing and insurance benefits."

Exactly.

[nuts4xu]

Europe is where you should play if you want to get paid, and develop your game for the NBA.

"Average overseas players can get a $65,000 contract with ease. Depending on the league that players get into in Europe, salaries can start as high as $100,000. Not only is there a big discrepancy between the salaries, but the money made in Europe is typically tax free. The club oftentimes will pay your taxes to the country you are playing in. That American who is playing overseas may also receive credit with the United States government for paying their taxes. Further, most European clubs commonly pay for a player’s living expenses. That includes providing a player with a car and lodging. So the player in Europe can be saved from taxes and the more expensive living expenses."

The D-League is not the goal of anyone playing pro basketball. In 2011, the NBA had 50 people called up from the D-League...most in the history of the league. 50 players seems like a lot, but most of those players were NBA athletes who rehabbed, were briefly sent down, or players signed to 10 day contracts only to be returned to the D-League in 11 days. The D-League is nothing like minor league baseball, and it appears the NBA will draft more college players than the D-League players they call up in a season.

[mistabeecee41]

I'll wait until the group workouts and such start and details start to come out before taking a stab at it.

Hopefully he gets an invite to the draft combine in Chicago in May. That's where a lot of borderline 1st rounders/2nd rounders can QUICKLY improve their stock.

[Milhouse]

Here's the problem. As fans, we often look at what a player does well, especially if it helps us at the college level. Pro teams/scouts tend to take the other approach. Yes, the look at and project potential, but they are also very big on pointing out the negatives. For Semaj, there still seems to be too much in that "negative" column. Based on what he has shown so far: he can't shoot, he hasn't proven he can run a team at PG, he can't go to his left very well, he was solid defensively but not good enough to offset other weaknesses, his decision-making is questionable.

Obviously we don't like to see that kind of stuff because we want the kid to succeed. But that's the kind of stuff they'll dwell on before the draft. Jobs and careers are at stake for people making the decisions so they often take the approach with the least risk. I agree that he's a low-risk option in the second round because of the things that would go in the "positive" column and the fact that the contract wouldn't be guaranteed. But there are a lot of guys in that same group this year. Once you hit Rd 2 it will just depend on what certain teams are looking to gamble on.

I understand this but he is also a 6'3" point guard with good handles and lightening fast quickness with elite athleticism. I really do think he'll prove he can be an excellent passer. How many times this year did he throw a perfect pass to Philmore just to have it pop out of his hands? You really think Chris Bosh doesn't catch that pass? Or any PF in the league for that matter? His deficiences are glaring but they are also things that can be overcome with practice/training/coaching. The things you can't coach? 6'3" height and elite athleticism.

I watch a lot of NBA basketball...a lot of people on here really don't it seems. Maj will get drafted I would bet a lot of money on that fact alone.

I just don't know where but he will be one of 60 players that hear their name called.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Here's the problem. As fans, we often look at what a player does well, especially if it helps us at the college level. Pro teams/scouts tend to take the other approach. Yes, the look at and project potential, but they are also very big on pointing out the negatives. For Semaj, there still seems to be too much in that "negative" column. Based on what he has shown so far: he can't shoot, he hasn't proven he can run a team at PG, he can't go to his left very well, he was solid defensively but not good enough to offset other weaknesses, his decision-making is questionable.

Obviously we don't like to see that kind of stuff because we want the kid to succeed. But that's the kind of stuff they'll dwell on before the draft. Jobs and careers are at stake for people making the decisions so they often take the approach with the least risk. I agree that he's a low-risk option in the second round because of the things that would go in the "positive" column and the fact that the contract wouldn't be guaranteed. But there are a lot of guys in that same group this year. Once you hit Rd 2 it will just depend on what certain teams are looking to gamble on.

I have looked at at least a dozen mock drafts. I haven't seen a single one where he even comes close to not be drafted so I really have no idea what you are talking about. I think 17th in the second round is the lowest I have seen him. I have also seem him as high as late 20's in the first round.

Jobs are not at stake based in second round picks. If anything careers can be made on hitting it big in the second round. A guy with upside like Semaj would be coveted in the second round and the negatives less looked at.

There is literally zero chance Semaj doesn't get drafted unless he somehow just bombs his workouts or gets injured.

Also in the

[D-West & PO-Z]

Europe is where you should play if you want to get paid, and develop your game for the NBA.

"Average overseas players can get a $65,000 contract with ease. Depending on the league that players get into in Europe, salaries can start as high as $100,000. Not only is there a big discrepancy between the salaries, but the money made in Europe is typically tax free. The club oftentimes will pay your taxes to the country you are playing in. That American who is playing overseas may also receive credit with the United States government for paying their taxes. Further, most European clubs commonly pay for a player’s living expenses. That includes providing a player with a car and lodging. So the player in Europe can be saved from taxes and the more expensive living expenses."

The D-League is not the goal of anyone playing pro basketball. In 2011, the NBA had 50 people called up from the D-League...most in the history of the league. 50 players seems like a lot, but most of those players were NBA athletes who rehabbed, were briefly sent down, or players signed to 10 day contracts only to be returned to the D-League in 11 days. The D-League is nothing like minor league baseball, and it appears the NBA will draft more college players than the D-League players they call up in a season.

Which is why I am confused as to why everyone keeps saying how Semaj will be playing in D league if he doesn't make a team.

[gladdenguy]

2nd round if he's lucky. Horrible decision.
There are at least 30-40 players better than Semaj in the draft. Are there 30 to 40 players who WILL be better than Semaj in the long run?
That is why I'm not an NBA scout or GM.

More importantly, we need a 13th scholarship at Xavier. I'm ready to move on.

[drudy23]

I understand this but he is also a 6'3" point guard with good handles and lightening fast quickness with elite athleticism. .

Every single point guard in the draft, currently in the NBA, or ever considered for the NBA has had elite handles and lightning fast quickness. That just begins the comparison...all of his competition has that too.

[drudy23]

A guy with upside like Semaj would be coveted in the second round and the negatives less looked at.




You could literally make this statement about anyone projected to go in the second round.

I'm not saying he won't get drafted...but to say he's hands down better than his second round competition is just not accurate. It will come down to strengths vs weaknesses and the needs profile of the seelcting team. I can see him getting drafted in the second round, and I can see him not getting drafted at all.

But he's not going in the first round.

[Milhouse]

Every single point guard in the draft, currently in the NBA, or ever considered for the NBA has had elite handles and lightning fast quickness. That just begins the comparison...all of his competition has that too.

Right. Which is why his size is an a very uncoachable factor.

6'3" -6'5" is the ideal size for an NBA point guard.

[D-West & PO-Z]

You could literally make this statement about anyone projected to go in the second round.

I'm not saying he won't get drafted...but to say he's hands down better than his second round competition is just not accurate. It will come down to strengths vs weaknesses and the needs profile of the seelcting team. I can see him getting drafted in the second round, and I can see him not getting drafted at all.

But he's not going in the first round.

The point is if he can prove he can play point guard in workouts he definitely has better potential than the majority of players being looked at in the second round. Look it up you will see scouts saying the thing holding him back from being a 1st round pick right now is that he hasn't proved he can play full time point. Can he show that in just workouts? I don't know. For people to be saying on here he doesn't have anymore skills or athleticism or speed on the floor than any other guard prospects is absurd. Do a little research. Or open your eyes. The people the most butt hurt about Semaj leaving are the ones shouting so loudly he made a horrible mistake and he's a dime a dozen. There is a reason Semaj had been projected as high as mid first round at points throughout this season. Very little if any other potential second round picks could say the same. He didn't get great opportunity to run the point at XU and not being able to show that hurt him. Unfortunately it would be no different next year. I don't blame him a bit for leaving. People keep say oh his shot, his shot, he can't shoot. More than anything he needs to prove he can run the point. If he can he will be in the NBA for a long time. If he really is more of a two guard it will be tough for him to make it.

[XUFan09]

Every single point guard in the draft, currently in the NBA, or ever considered for the NBA has had elite handles and lightning fast quickness. That just begins the comparison...all of his competition has that too.

Depends how you're defining "lightning fast." Semaj is quicker than a majority of NBA point guards. Few are as slow as Tu, but most aren't as fast as Rondo or Wall. and Semaj falls in that latter category.

[XUFan09]

He didn't get great opportunity to run the point at XU and not being able to show that hurt him. Unfortunately it would be no different next year.

Some people tend to neglect this fact.

[throwbackmuskie]

There seem to be some people hurt that he left to go into the draft. He consulted with family, coaches and various NBA scouts. I bet he liked what he heard and is ready to make the next move. I guess next time he should talk to the messege board scouts/gms/coaches first.

[THRILLHOUSE]

Right now I think somewhere in the first 10 picks of the 2nd round. No real reasoning behind that prediction, just a guess. Maybe could be a late 1st round pick if he can wow scouts during workouts. Such a loaded draft though.

[kyxu]

The point is if he can prove he can play point guard in workouts he definitely has better potential than the majority of players being looked at in the second round. Look it up you will see scouts saying the thing holding him back from being a 1st round pick right now is that he hasn't proved he can play full time point. Can he show that in just workouts? I don't know. For people to be saying on here he doesn't have anymore skills or athleticism or speed on the floor than any other guard prospects is absurd. Do a little research. Or open your eyes. The people the most butt hurt about Semaj leaving are the ones shouting so loudly he made a horrible mistake and he's a dime a dozen. There is a reason Semaj had been projected as high as mid first round at points throughout this season. Very little if any other potential second round picks could say the same. He didn't get great opportunity to run the point at XU and not being able to show that hurt him. Unfortunately it would be no different next year. I don't blame him a bit for leaving. People keep say oh his shot, his shot, he can't shoot. More than anything he needs to prove he can run the point. If he can he will be in the NBA for a long time. If he really is more of a two guard it will be tough for him to make it.

This is a great post.

[X-man]

The point is if he can prove he can play point guard in workouts he definitely has better potential than the majority of players being looked at in the second round. Look it up you will see scouts saying the thing holding him back from being a 1st round pick right now is that he hasn't proved he can play full time point. Can he show that in just workouts? I don't know. For people to be saying on here he doesn't have anymore skills or athleticism or speed on the floor than any other guard prospects is absurd. Do a little research. Or open your eyes. The people the most butt hurt about Semaj leaving are the ones shouting so loudly he made a horrible mistake and he's a dime a dozen. There is a reason Semaj had been projected as high as mid first round at points throughout this season. Very little if any other potential second round picks could say the same. He didn't get great opportunity to run the point at XU and not being able to show that hurt him. Unfortunately it would be no different next year. I don't blame him a bit for leaving. People keep say oh his shot, his shot, he can't shoot. More than anything he needs to prove he can run the point. If he can he will be in the NBA for a long time. If he really is more of a two guard it will be tough for him to make it.

And there, in a nutshell, is why he is leaving. If Mack could have found a way to give him more opportunity to play PG, I suspect that Semaj would have come back. If I am right, it means that Mack had it "in his power" to bring Semaj back. However I have to say that Mack did the right thing in not allowing a particular player's developmental needs dictate how the team would be run next year. So good luck to Semaj. I think that he will have a long and productive career in the league, but it may take a couple of years to blossom.

[nuts4xu]

If I am right, it means that Mack had it "in his power" to bring Semaj back.

I don't think you have it right on this occasion. I don't believe anything Mack could have said or done would have cause Semaj to remain at Xavier.

Semaj could have played PG for Xavier next year, and he would have had a lot more weapons to pass to than he had his first 2 years. But it is clear his mind is made up, and at least part of his desire to go pro is unrelated to the game of basketball.

Ready or not, here he comes...

[Masterofreality]

Mid- to late-second round, if at all (although I suspect some team will roll the dice at that point given his natural abilities). Drafted or undrafted, I suspect he'll go to camp with an NBA team, but I don't expect him to be on an NBA roster when next season starts. D-League or overseas.

Agree right off the bat.

[MHettel]

Someone mentioned Sato and DBrown. While both of those guys had great college careers and were physically impressive, neither possessed the quickness needed to succeed in the NBA. Thats really what keeps both of those guys in Europe, which isn't a bad option... Semaj DOES have that elite quickness, but he lacks other physical attributes (strength and size---not height, but size). he'll grow into some of those physical skills, but will need to still work on his shooting and going left.

Some thoughts on the D-League and Europe as conduits to the NBA. The only guys to make the NBA out of the European leagues are the guys that are European. I cannot think of one single American born college player that went overseas to play in Europe and then later came to become a meaningful NBA player. I'm sure someone can name one.....But I cant. Same with the D-League. Very few guys come out of the D-League and stick in the NBA. If they do, then it's generally because they are very young and need some time to get physically stronger or work on some fundamental parts of their game. Semaj COULD fit that mold. Basically the D-League is about 100 guys that exist to provide some competition for the 15 guys that could one day be NBA players.

And the idea that Semaj would have stayed if only Mack would have let him play PG.... Well, I'll point to Mark Lyons who wanted the same opportunity and essentially got it by transferring. Although it didn't get HIM into the NBA. Maybe Mack knows a thing or 2 about the role of the PG.... Couple that with the fact that Dee Davis is probably the worst PG we've had since before I started following the team in the early 90s, and I'm led to believe that if Mack felt he COULD play PG, then he would be in there next year and open up the SG spot for a new guy or maybe Myles Davis (The Myles Davis that can shoot, not the one that played for us last year).

Anyway. My guess is early- mid second round.

Quick question. I know a first round pick gets guaranteed money. And a second round player signs a nice contract, but only gets the money if they stick with the NBA team. But what about a second roudn player that gets sent to the D-League by the team that drafted them? Do they still get to make the money related to the contract that they signed? If not, thats a big screw job for the player. Imagine getting drafted, send to the D-League to make $25K, but knowing that you could probably make a DIFFERENT NBA roster is you weren't stuck with the specifc team that drafted you. The NBA teams should be foreced to pay the player 2nd round money, or allow them to become a free agent and sign whereever. not sure how it works...

[Muskie]

Someone mentioned Sato and DBrown. While both of those guys had great college careers and were physically impressive, neither possessed the quickness needed to succeed in the NBA. Thats really what keeps both of those guys in Europe, which isn't a bad option... Semaj DOES have that elite quickness, but he lacks other physical attributes (strength and size---not height, but size). he'll grow into some of those physical skills, but will need to still work on his shooting and going left.

Some thoughts on the D-League and Europe as conduits to the NBA. The only guys to make the NBA out of the European leagues are the guys that are European. I cannot think of one single American born college player that went overseas to play in Europe and then later came to become a meaningful NBA player. I'm sure someone can name one.....But I cant. Same with the D-League. Very few guys come out of the D-League and stick in the NBA. If they do, then it's generally because they are very young and need some time to get physically stronger or work on some fundamental parts of their game. Semaj COULD fit that mold. Basically the D-League is about 100 guys that exist to provide some competition for the 15 guys that could one day be NBA players.

And the idea that Semaj would have stayed if only Mack would have let him play PG.... Well, I'll point to Mark Lyons who wanted the same opportunity and essentially got it by transferring. Although it didn't get HIM into the NBA. Maybe Mack knows a thing or 2 about the role of the PG.... Couple that with the fact that Dee Davis is probably the worst PG we've had since before I started following the team in the early 90s, and I'm led to believe that if Mack felt he COULD play PG, then he would be in there next year and open up the SG spot for a new guy or maybe Myles Davis (The Myles Davis that can shoot, not the one that played for us last year).

Anyway. My guess is early- mid second round.

Quick question. I know a first round pick gets guaranteed money. And a second round player signs a nice contract, but only gets the money if they stick with the NBA team. But what about a second roudn player that gets sent to the D-League by the team that drafted them? Do they still get to make the money related to the contract that they signed? If not, thats a big screw job for the player. Imagine getting drafted, send to the D-League to make $25K, but knowing that you could probably make a DIFFERENT NBA roster is you weren't stuck with the specifc team that drafted you. The NBA teams should be foreced to pay the player 2nd round money, or allow them to become a free agent and sign whereever. not sure how it works...

The only player that comes to mind is Brandon Jennings.

[ballyhoohoo]

The only player that comes to mind is Brandon Jennings.
Lawyered

Someone mentioned Sato and DBrown. While both of those guys had great college careers and were physically impressive, neither possessed the quickness needed to succeed in the NBA. Thats really what keeps both of those guys in Europe, which isn't a bad option... Semaj DOES have that elite quickness, but he lacks other physical attributes (strength and size---not height, but size). he'll grow into some of those physical skills, but will need to still work on his shooting and going left.

Some thoughts on the D-League and Europe as conduits to the NBA. The only guys to make the NBA out of the European leagues are the guys that are European. I cannot think of one single American born college player that went overseas to play in Europe and then later came to become a meaningful NBA player. I'm sure someone can name one.....But I cant. Same with the D-League. Very few guys come out of the D-League and stick in the NBA. If they do, then it's generally because they are very young and need some time to get physically stronger or work on some fundamental parts of their game. Semaj COULD fit that mold. Basically the D-League is about 100 guys that exist to provide some competition for the 15 guys that could one day be NBA players.

And the idea that Semaj would have stayed if only Mack would have let him play PG.... Well, I'll point to Mark Lyons who wanted the same opportunity and essentially got it by transferring. Although it didn't get HIM into the NBA. Maybe Mack knows a thing or 2 about the role of the PG.... Couple that with the fact that Dee Davis is probably the worst PG we've had since before I started following the team in the early 90s, and I'm led to believe that if Mack felt he COULD play PG, then he would be in there next year and open up the SG spot for a new guy or maybe Myles Davis (The Myles Davis that can shoot, not the one that played for us last year).

Anyway. My guess is early- mid second round.

Quick question. I know a first round pick gets guaranteed money. And a second round player signs a nice contract, but only gets the money if they stick with the NBA team. But what about a second roudn player that gets sent to the D-League by the team that drafted them? Do they still get to make the money related to the contract that they signed? If not, thats a big screw job for the player. Imagine getting drafted, send to the D-League to make $25K, but knowing that you could probably make a DIFFERENT NBA roster is you weren't stuck with the specifc team that drafted you. The NBA teams should be foreced to pay the player 2nd round money, or allow them to become a free agent and sign whereever. not sure how it works...

[X-man]

I don't think you have it right on this occasion. I don't believe anything Mack could have said or done would have cause Semaj to remain at Xavier.

Semaj could have played PG for Xavier next year, and he would have had a lot more weapons to pass to than he had his first 2 years. But it is clear his mind is made up, and at least part of his desire to go pro is unrelated to the game of basketball.

Ready or not, here he comes...

I am pretty sure I am right on this one. My source is very well placed.

[Masterofreality]

I don't think you have it right on this occasion. I don't believe anything Mack could have said or done would have cause Semaj to remain at Xavier.

Semaj could have played PG for Xavier next year, and he would have had a lot more weapons to pass to than he had his first 2 years. But it is clear his mind is made up, and at least part of his desire to go pro is unrelated to the game of basketball.

Ready or not, here he comes...


I am pretty sure I am right on this one. My source is very well placed.

I think that "anything" here is not accurate. The correct word here is that there was "something" that could have been done, but I don't think that it may have been the "best" thing. Many will debate "best" here, but so be it. Only time will show who is right.

There are all ready two other point guards on this team with one more coming. No doubt, Semaj wanted to be the #1 pg to develop for the next level, but would that have helped the team overall? I'm not convinced that it would have.

Team Chemistry is important. That's all I'll say although I have a lot of thoughts on this.

[X-man]

I think that "anything" here is not accurate. The correct word here is that there was "something" that could have been done, but I don't think that it may have been the "best" thing. Many will debate "best" here, but so be it. Only time will show who is right.

There are all ready two other point guards on this team with one more coming. No doubt, Semaj wanted to be the #1 pg to develop for the next level, but would that have helped the team overall? I'm not convinced that it would have.

Team Chemistry is important. That's all I'll say although I have a lot of thoughts on this.

Agreed on all counts.

[NY44]

To me, he's extremely undervalued right now. He will get drafted in the mid 2nd round but whoever takes him will be getting a steal and a potential starter within 3 years. Just look at the other PG prospects in this draft. Notably: Smart, Napier, Ennis, Burton, Russ Smith, Andrew Harrison. I'd say he's the 3rd best PG prospect in this group, behind Smart and Ennis, and he's athletically not very far behind either one. More well-known names like Napier and Smith will get picked ahead of him. He'll probably be the 6th or 7th PG taken and that's a joke.