Final Four Flyers

[Snipe]

I am calling it.

[Xavier]

I don't see them beating Florida....but I think UCLA could, and UD could take down UCLA.

[LadyMuskie]

I think so too. When they made it to the second weekend I saw it coming. They have a great draw. It's a nightmare wrapped in a disaster surrounded by the worst possible outcome of anything ever.

[gladdenguy]

I'm so jealous. Congrats Flyers. All the crappy teams they have put up with and now they are paid back. Unbelievable.

[Snipe]

They have a young team too.

[The_Mack_Pack]

I'm sure the riot police will be cheering for Florida/UCLA because Dayton would burn to the ground if they made the Final Four.

[HuskyMuskie]

34 points off the bench. Could you even imagine...?

[Filthy Conservative]

Snipe is gay.

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[Snipe]

They are fun to watch. This is the biggest thing to hit Dayton since people figured out they were allowed to leave.

[SlimKibbles]

34 points off the bench. Could you even imagine...?

Can only dream. Been said before many times by many people: successful teams in March typically have good bench play.


They are fun to watch. This is the biggest thing to hit Dayton since people figured out they were allowed to leave.

LOL

[Snipe]

Snipe is gay.

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Take it like a man, Garvin. Archie Miller is building a Dynasty.

[LadyMuskie]

Miller is not sticking around. He is his brother's brother after all.

[GoMuskies]

Mack to Wake, Archie to Xavier!

[xudash]

Miller is not sticking around. He is his brother's brother after all.

Roger that.

I know I'm biased and I understand anything can happen in this tournament, but I live in northeast Florida. I've watched the Gators play off and on all season.

In my opinion, they will take care of UCLA tonight. They will then dismantle Dayton on Saturday.

[Filthy Conservative]

Snipe has grown gayer in the 8 minutes since I last posted he's gay.

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[OTRMUSKIE]

SCREW DAYTON with that said congrats to their team and their fans. Great fan base and they have suffered sooo much. I think they actually get destroyed if they play Florida sort of like X vs UCLA. If UCLA wins Dayton is going to the final four and I will cry

[LadyMuskie]

Great fan base and they have suffered sooo much.

What?

[GoMuskies]

What?

Waggy has always claimed that OTR is a Dayton troll.

[xsteve1]

And Brew thinks they'd have no trouble replacing Archie with a coach as good or better, yeah right!. That was as well of a coached team as I have seen. Archie is every bit as good as Sean, just like John Miller predicted.

[XU3232]

If they can somehow upset Florida or UCLA there is a decent chance they could win it all. Wow this is crazy.. Still can't believe it. Never thought I'd be jealous of them.

[nkymuskie]

I hate Dayton but dang, Archie has his boys playing tough. They just wanted this game more than Stanford tonight. They are not going to be an easy out for whoever has to play them.

[LadyMuskie]

Waggy has always claimed that OTR is a Dayton troll.

Good catch by Waggy.

[SixFig]

Trying to think happy thoughts...

...Game of Thrones premiere soon...

...and thats it.

Dang.

[STL_XUfan]

Congrats to ud, but also, they should go f*** themselves.

[LadyMuskie]

Congrats to ud, but also, they should go f*** themselves.

See. This is an appropriate Xavier fan response.

[The_Mack_Pack]

I can't believe getting Sean's younger brother actually worked out for UD. It's just crazy.

[XUFan09]

Waggy has always claimed that OTR is a Dayton troll.

Waggy's trolldar results in a lot of false positives.

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[nkymuskie]

I can't believe getting Sean's younger brother actually worked out for UD. It's just crazy.

Are there any other brothers? Maybe a half brother out there somewhere? First cousin? Anyone? We just need that will to win back at X.

[X Factor]

Why does everyone think Archie is a great coach?

He hasn't led Dayton to a finish higher than 6th place in the A10. His conference records are: 9-7, 7-9, and 10-6. Wow.

This three game run is going to get him the hell out of Dayton, and he can thank his players for it, not his coaching.

[The_Mack_Pack]

Why does everyone think Archie is a great coach?

He hasn't led Dayton to a finish higher than 6th place in the A10. His conference records are: 9-7, 7-9, and 10-6. Wow.

This three game run is going to get him the hell out of Dayton, and he can thank his players for it, not his coaching.

He wasn't exactly given a lot when Gregory left. Sean didn't perform all that well in the A-10 until his third season and the league wasn't nearly as strong that year as it was this year. I guess we'll see what Archie's really made of in the next few years but I'm sure he'll win wherever he's at. The Miller's just know how to win.

[Filthy Conservative]

Dayton til I die.

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[X Factor]

Delete this thread. Who cares about Dayton.

[Snipe]

You can't handle the truth.

[nuts4xu]

Dayton til I die.

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C'mon man, that is crossing the line!

[nuts4xu]

I absolutely hate everything related to dayton including this run to the elite 8.

Begrudgingly, I have to give them props and offer my sincere congratulations to all those who root for dayton. It is a great feeling and I encourage you all to not take it for granted.

But man do I hate those fu**ers!

[xsteve1]

Dayton will get Florida.

[The_Mack_Pack]

Should be interesting. This is a team I have a hard time seeing UD stick with but I also said that before VCU beat Kansas in 2011 so you never know.

[xubrew]

I am calling it.

I think Florida's ability to get to the glass, tough defense, decent outside shooting, and general overall awesomeness could give Dayton some trouble. They're way better than anyone Dayton has played this year, much less beaten.

But, losing in the Elite Eight is what Florida does. I believe this would be four in a row if Dayton pulls it off.

[Snipe]

Florida is going down!

[xubball1993]

As a sports fan, I would enjoy seeing the Battle of the Miller Brothers for the title next Monday night. As a Xavier fan, it would kill me.

[Milhouse]

You know what? Good for them. Archie has them playing hard. I really dislike some of their fans but you have to remember...the majority of their fan base is not on UDPride. The majority of their fanbase is 60+ year olds that haven't seen any sort of success in 30 years. I'm happy for those people.

I wouldn't be surprised if they beat Florida either the way archie has them playing.

Can you imagine if Archie beats Sean to a final 4?

I don't know that he leaves after this year either. I don't think there is really an elite job open this year. Could've gone to UCLA last year, but this year best opening would be Marquette and I don't think he'll take that.

[blobfan]

Congrats to the coach and team. Congrats to the long-time fans that also treat opponents with human decency. As for the sh!tters that show up to former opponents games just to boo, or verbally abuse the family of their opponents coach: I hope your beer is flat, your cable goes out, your internet goes down and your neighbors have a loud party to which you are not invited that drowns out your radio.

[xubrew]

And Brew thinks they'd have no trouble replacing Archie with a coach as good or better, yeah right!. That was as well of a coached team as I have seen. Archie is every bit as good as Sean, just like John Miller predicted.

My God, you get really hung up on some of the things that I say. But...since you brought it up....

Dayton has twice the resources as anyone else in their conference minus maybe SLU, and they still have more than SLU.

Dayton is now in the Elite Eight.

That's an attractive job. If you stick Saul Phillips, or Mike White, or Brian Wardell into a situation where they have more resources (by far) and stronger fan support than anyone else in the league, they will absolutely be successful. Add to it that the team is coming off an Elite Eight, and that's even more to build on. Those coaches are at weak programs with no resources and no history, and all of them got their teams playing at a high level. Up until about three weeks ago, I would have said all three of those teams were actually better than Dayton.

I don't like him as much as the other three, but Danny Manning at Tulsa is another guy (and name) that really had his team playing well down the stretch and did a good job changing a mediocre team into what was a good team at the end of the year. Dayton is a better job than Tulsa.

They'll get a very good coach if they know what they're doing. I'm not saying that Archie Millier isn't good, but I am saying they shouldn't have any trouble at all getting another very good coach to replace him. No one around here had anything good to say about Archie Miller up until about two weeks ago.

The tournament is a different animal. I'm not guaranteeing Elite Eights. There are other variables at play there such as match-ups, and it may be another thirty years before they're this close to the FF again. Who knows?? But I think the three guys I mentioned (and a few others) would routinely finish a lot better than sixth in the A10, and routinely earn NCAA seeds better than #11th. Dayton has so much more than anyone else in the A10, that it should be an uneven game. They should be finishing at the top of the league, which is why good coaches will want that job.

[bleedXblue]

They share the ball and have a specific style they play offensively. It also doesnt hurt that they have 5-6 guys that can knock down 3's. Xaviers biggest area that needs to be addressed is to find more shooters. Hopefully this new class helps with the issue and guys like Myles Davis can get back into form next year.

[xubrew]

They share the ball and have a specific style they play offensively. It also doesnt hurt that they have 5-6 guys that can knock down 3's. Xaviers biggest area that needs to be addressed is to find more shooters. Hopefully this new class helps with the issue and guys like Myles Davis can get back into form next year.

They've done an excellent job of attacking the zone and/or pack style defenses. (SLU, Ohio State (sort of), Syracuse and Stanford). They really could have done better against Syracuse, but they get it into the post, and then either kick it out for an open jumper, or hit a guy that's cutting to the basket. Syracuse, and others who play that type of zone, can't guard both, and Stanford isn't nearly is good at it. UD did exactly what they needed to do to beat it, and it was fantastic to watch.

Florida doesn't play like that, though. They look very different defensively than any of the teams UD has beaten in their big wins, minus maybe Ohio State, and even OSU will pack it at times. Florida gets a lot of steals, forces turnovers, and contests shots, and pretty much plays the opposite of a pack as they cover a lot of ground.

I don't see it happening. But, if they do, then what can you say?? Snipe > Nostradamus.

[xsteve1]

They share the ball and have a specific style they play offensively. It also doesnt hurt that they have 5-6 guys that can knock down 3's. Xaviers biggest area that needs to be addressed is to find more shooters. Hopefully this new class helps with the issue and guys like Myles Davis can get back into form next year.

Agree X needs more shooters. But Philmore and Stainbrook were both below average defenders. X really needs to shore up that end. X's best teams 2004 and 2008 played lockdown defense. Archie's biggest struggle at UD was getting those guys to play defense and now they have bought in. His team's have always been pretty solid offensively especially in sharing the ball.
I watched Mike White's team the other night. Wasn't impressed, Basically unorganized chaos.

[xubrew]

Agree X needs more shooters. But Philmore and Stainbrook were both below average defenders. X really needs to shore up that end. X's best teams 2004 and 2008 played lockdown defense. Archie's biggest struggle at UD was getting those guys to play defense and now they have bought in. His team's have always been pretty solid offensively especially in sharing the ball.
I watched Mike White's team the other night. Wasn't impressed, Basically unorganized chaos.

Injuries have killed LA Tech. I'm actually surprised they were in the game. It's typically more organized chaos than unorganized chaos.

Funny story about Mike White. His father is the AD at Duke. They were supposed to play Duke this year, but Duke backed out, and it really screwed over LA Tech because they had to scramble to find another game, and ended up with crap. That must've made for an interesting thanksgiving.

[Smails]

Agree X needs more shooters. But Philmore and Stainbrook were both below average defenders. X really needs to shore up that end. X's best teams 2004 and 2008 played lockdown defense. Archie's biggest struggle at UD was getting those guys to play defense and now they have bought in. His team's have always been pretty solid offensively especially in sharing the ball.
I watched Mike White's team the other night. Wasn't impressed, Basically unorganized chaos.

Every 'high seed' NCAA run has a story and I have to think that the story of Dayton's success can be summed in by looking at their opponent's 3-point shooting during the last 3 games. OSU, Syracue and Stanford have shot a combined 8-43 against Dayton from behind the arc. I haven't paid close enough attention to see if Dayton's perimiter D has been that good or are the teams missing open looks...or whatever. That's the story of their run...plain and simple.

[Masterofreality]

Every 'high seed' NCAA run has a story and I have to think that the story of Dayton's success can be summed in by looking at their opponent's 3-point shooting during the last 3 games. OSU, Syracue and Stanford have shot a combined 8-43 against Dayton from behind the arc. I haven't paid close enough attention to see if Dayton's perimiter D has been that good or are the teams missing open looks...or whatever. That's the story of their run...plain and simple.

Bad shooting. Guys have been open. But, that being said. Oh-ho-ho State was a poor 3 point shooting team all year long. I believe they were 9th in the B1G in 3 point percentage. Don't know about the Cuse, but Stanford looked horrible and slow to me last night.

Florida is anything but slow.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Dayton will get destroyed. Florida 85 UD 52. They will be exposed tomorrow. This is getting close to UC's run to the final four with weak opponents. Thankfully UD finally gets to play a real team.

[xudash]

If Michael Frazier gets going against Dayton like he did against the Bruins, UD will finally receive its wake-up call. I believe Florida will win regardless, but I'm sensing a blowout Cryer loss that develops early in the second half.

[The_Mack_Pack]

So far UD has faced three severely offensively challenged teams. Florida can be explosive and is better at every position than UD. If Dayton wins this game then they deserve the Final Four, no question.

[xubrew]

Winning one game against Florida is probably tougher than winning three games against Ohio State, Syracuse (especially when they finish 3-6), and Stanford.

Florida is really freakin' good. They have not lost since they got all their starters back, and their only losses without their starters were close games against really good teams.

[sgarcia]

Every 'high seed' NCAA run has a story and I have to think that the story of Dayton's success can be summed in by looking at their opponent's 3-point shooting during the last 3 games. OSU, Syracue and Stanford have shot a combined 8-43 against Dayton from behind the arc. I haven't paid close enough attention to see if Dayton's perimiter D has been that good or are the teams missing open looks...or whatever. That's the story of their run...plain and simple.

I wish Myles Davis could go 8-43.

[GoMuskies]

Every 'high seed' NCAA run has a story and I have to think that the story of Dayton's success can be summed in by looking at their opponent's 3-point shooting during the last 3 games. OSU, Syracue and Stanford have shot a combined 8-43 against Dayton from behind the arc. I haven't paid close enough attention to see if Dayton's perimiter D has been that good or are the teams missing open looks...or whatever. That's the story of their run...plain and simple.

George Mason's run had a lot to do with them play unbelievably wonderful basketball (until they got to the Final Four). Those guys were FUN to watch in the first four rounds.

[chico]

Every 'high seed' NCAA run has a story and I have to think that the story of Dayton's success can be summed in by looking at their opponent's 3-point shooting during the last 3 games. OSU, Syracue and Stanford have shot a combined 8-43 against Dayton from behind the arc. I haven't paid close enough attention to see if Dayton's perimiter D has been that good or are the teams missing open looks...or whatever. That's the story of their run...plain and simple.

I disagree. Their offense has been the key. Against Stanford, each basket scored in the first half was the result of an assist. Against Syracuse, they picked apart that zone, patiently passing and breaking it down until they had an easy drive to the basket or an open 3. They passed well and moved without the ball.

That being said, I agree that they've not faced a team the likes of Florida this year. Young's going to have a big game, because UD has nothing down low. Stanford was beginning to exploit that before their bigs got into foul trouble. They have the athletes to keep some of Florida's role players in check, but they'll be hard pressed to slow Wilbekin down. They've 10.5 underdogs - I don't know if they'll get blown out the way they've been playing but it may end up close to the spread. I'm thinking 8-10 points.

[aurorix2]

If Dayton wins it all, we'd have a trump card on the Mouseketeers for life lol.

[BandAid]

If Dayton wins it all, we'd have a trump card on the Mouseketeers for life lol.

Ya, just like George Mason

[xubball1993]

And here's a reminder of the class act we have up Interstate 75:

http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/news/crime-law/several-officers-assaulted-during-ud-celebration/nfNMq/

[OTRMUSKIE]

nope!!!

[GuyFawkes38]

Our long national nightmare is over.

[XU3232]

Chomp chomp chomp!!!

[XUBob]

To paraphrase a cheer Nooooooooooo Dayton Flyers

[paulxu]

The cops in the Ghetto will get a night off.

[xubball1993]

The cops in the Ghetto will get a night off.

Not even. they'll riot worse since they lost.

[xu82]

And here's a reminder of the class act we have up Interstate 75:

http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/news/crime-law/several-officers-assaulted-during-ud-celebration/nfNMq/

In fairness, the felonious cop punching rioters were not in the majority. So, there's that....

[Snipe]

I was hoping they could have gotten UCLA because they could have matched up better with them. Florida is good at basketball.

Congrats to Dayton on a great tourney run. I bet they pay Archie a bunch of money. They have money to pay up there. It isn't a bad gig. Right now Archie is the King of Dayton. They are going to treat him like a God and they will be waiting for them to get off the plane. It is going to happen.

Finish this sentence:

Being King of Dayton is like......

[American X]

Being King of Dayton is like......

...being Senior Moderator on a Xavier message board.

[Masterofreality]

Being King of Dayton is like......

.....Being lead Rat in a sewer.

[Juice]

I was hoping they could have gotten UCLA because they could have matched up better with them. Florida is good at basketball.

Congrats to Dayton on a great tourney run. I bet they pay Archie a bunch of money. They have money to pay up there. It isn't a bad gig. Right now Archie is the King of Dayton. They are going to treat him like a God and they will be waiting for them to get off the plane. It is going to happen.

Finish this sentence:

Being King of Dayton is like......

being the best smelling turd in the toilet

[BandAid]

We have seen the end of Kenobi. We will soon see the end of the rebellion.

[bobbiemcgee]

Is the friggin' parade over yet?

[xu 89]

I was hoping they could have gotten UCLA because they could have matched up better with them. Florida is good at basketball.

Congrats to Dayton on a great tourney run. I bet they pay Archie a bunch of money. They have money to pay up there. It isn't a bad gig. Right now Archie is the King of Dayton. They are going to treat him like a God and they will be waiting for them to get off the plane. It is going to happen.

Finish this sentence:

Being King of Dayton is like......

being the star of Xanadu

[OTRMUSKIE]

Being King of Dayton is like eating white castles drunk then going to bed and waking up at 4am with awful stomach pains. You want to shoot yourself but you realize you don't have a gun and God frowns upon that stuff. So you just go ahead and shit it out

[AustinFlyer]

They are fun to watch. This is the biggest thing to hit Dayton since people figured out they were allowed to leave.

Had to join this board just to comment on this. I grew up in north Dayton and liked it there, but thought the comment was hilarious.

[muskienick]

Had to join this board just to comment on this. I grew up in north Dayton and liked it there, but thought the comment was hilarious.
My son and daughter-in-law love to visit your current home town coming from their Denver home. (They really enjoy all the great music that is available there.) They usually have his Mom and I fly out to stay with their two boys. Everybody is a winner!

[Masterofreality]

I am calling it.

And you got a wrong number.

[Musketeer_15]

Thank God this didn't happen...

[Snipe]

They would have beat UConn to play for the National Championship, and PMThor would have lobbied for me to be banned from these august halls of Xavier fandom. And he wouldn't be alone.

You all would have realized that I have been a Flyer sleeper cell this whole time, working to penetrate the Xavier Nation, and they were just about to activate me.

I would be rooting for them so hard right now if they were still playing, and many of our fans would have blown a gasket. They were the best story of the tournament. Good for them.

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DAYTON FLYERS!!!!!!!!

[paulxu]

After wandering in the wilderness with no Sweet 16 for 30 years, they finally got one and an E8.
Yet, if you read their long term posters, their definition of a great season has to have others failing.
They can't even enjoy their own success; it's almost as important to them that we don't have the same.
Very, very sad.

[xsteve1]

I thought Florida looked like crap against UD (scored like 10 points in the last 11 minutes) and they look like crap today. Very good defensive team but very unimpressive on offense. College hoops is way down this year.

[GreatWhiteNorth]

Florida's shooting was bad. 10% from the 3-pt line and 38.8% overall won't cut it. UConn played a good game today.