Transfer Rumor From Twitter

[X-Fan]

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"@XUHoopsRumors: Rumor has it there's a player who played significant minutes last year who is looking to transfer. #XUHoopsRumors"

Lots of tweets speculating its Justin, Brandon. Myles, or Dee.

[The_Mack_Pack]

I'd guess Myles. Bluiett, Macura, Sumner, and Abell all can play his position and offer more than he can.

[LadyMuskie]

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"@XUHoopsRumors: Rumor has it there's a player who played significant minutes last year who is looking to transfer. #XUHoopsRumors"

Lots of tweets speculating its Justin, Brandon. Myles, or Dee.

I hate to hear this. I understand we need the scholarship spot, but I still hate to hear it.

[casualfan]

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"@XUHoopsRumors: Rumor has it there's a player who played significant minutes last year who is looking to transfer. #XUHoopsRumors"

Lots of tweets speculating its Justin, Brandon. Myles, or Dee.

Dee doesn't make any sense to me just because he's going to be a senior. I don't know why he'd want to go it out somewhere unless Mack is essentially pulling his scholarship.

Martin would make sense as he could transfer without having to it out.

If Semaj is going anywhere he's going pro. Stain wouldn't transfer after just getting here.

I know people have mentioned Myles, but that would surprise me after he paid his way for a year. Maybe Mack is pushing him out?

Those are the only guys that played what I would consider to be major minutes.

[CinciX12]

That's most likely Myles.

Unless Brandon is unhappy with the minutes he saw even as a freshman? I don't know.

[SemajParlor]

It's not Myles.

[vee4xu]

It can happen when a team has more players than schollys and the players coming in rate higher than many of the ones already here. In fact, after the one-on-one post season individual player assessments, it may be that some players are being "encouraged" to look elsewhere. Assuming that conversation is allowed under NCAA rules.

[casualfan]

I had seen we were mentioned as a possibility for Ronnie Johnson which had me scratching my had a bit as we're 2 over.

I should have known player defections might be behind it.

[xsteve1]

That's most likely Myles.

Unless Brandon is unhappy with the minutes he saw even as a freshman? I don't know.

Brandon and Myles didn't play significant minutes. I expect 2 or 3 to transfer.

[Xman95]

My guess would be Brandon. Might want to get back closer to the west coast/family and it would seem his battle for minutes won't get any easier going forward. If Semaj is back, Randolph would be battling him, D.Davis, M.Davis, Sumner, Macura, and others for time. My other guess would be M.Davis for the same reasons.

My fear would be Martin. I would absolutely hate losing him because it seems the light has finally gone on and stayed on for him. He can really be an impact player for X and losing him would hurt.

As for Dee...just don't see it at this stage. Maybe he fears being shoved to a back-up role next year, but he'll probably have first crack at the starting PG gig. Then again, maybe he has grown tired of fans blaming him for everything!

Any chances that it's Reynolds? I wouldn't think so, but maybe his mini-suspension (or something else) has him looking at other opportunities. Again, I would doubt it, but you never know.

[CinciX12]

Every player always has a sit down with the head coach talking about expectations for next season and what he would like to see them work on. But Vee is right, I wonder if you're allowed to just come out and say, "hey this isn't going to work out for you".

[SemajParlor]

Every player always has a sit down with the head coach talking about expectations for next season and what he would like to see them work on. But Vee is right, I wonder if you're allowed to just come out and say, "hey this isn't going to work out for you".

Yes. This happens pretty frequently actually.

[casualfan]

My guess would be Brandon. Might want to get back closer to the west coast/family and it would seem his battle for minutes won't get any easier going forward. If Semaj is back, Randolph would be battling him, D.Davis, M.Davis, Sumner, Macura, and others for time. My other guess would be M.Davis for the same reasons.

My fear would be Martin. I would absolutely hate losing him because it seems the light has finally gone on and stayed on for him. He can really be an impact player for X and losing him would hurt.

As for Dee...just don't see it at this stage. Maybe he fears being shoved to a back-up role next year, but he'll probably have first crack at the starting PG gig. Then again, maybe he has grown tired of fans blaming him for everything! :)


The only reason I don't think it is Brandon i because they said someone who played significant minute. I 13 minutes a game significant? I guess, depending on how you look at it.

[Juice]

Every player always has a sit down with the head coach talking about expectations for next season and what he would like to see them work on. But Vee is right, I wonder if you're allowed to just come out and say, "hey this isn't going to work out for you".

Scholarships are renewable on a year to year basis. Mack/ XU can simply say that the scholarship won't be renewed if they wanted to be dicks about it.

[xavierj]

My best guess is that it is someone who will most likely graduate after three years. Not three years on the floor but three years in college. Read between the lines.

[The_Mack_Pack]

It looks bad to take away a scholarship but if guys don't get the job done then it's understandable. The school is spending a lot of money on them to perform in basketball. We have no idea what's going on behind the scenes either.

[Xman95]

Every player always has a sit down with the head coach talking about expectations for next season and what he would like to see them work on. But Vee is right, I wonder if you're allowed to just come out and say, "hey this isn't going to work out for you".

I'm pretty sure if a coach tells a kid that he won't pull the scholly but that the minutes won't be there, a kid will usually decide on his own to bolt. Why put in all the time and effort when you're basically assured of not playing? Obviously that's the life of a walk-on, but a kid on scholly can usually go to a lesser program and play legit minutes or even start.

[Xman95]

My best guess is that it is someone who will most likely graduate after three years. Not three years on the floor but three years in college. Read between the lines.

Who's on pace to graduate after three years? Dee?

[casualfan]

My best guess is that it is someone who will most likely graduate after three years. Not three years on the floor but three years in college. Read between the lines.

If I'm reading your post right we don't have a guy who has been in school three years that hasn't played three year.

Justin has been in school 4 years, but played three.

Myles and Jalen have been in school for two years and played one.

[DC Muskie]

James Farr. Just a guess.

[Nocalmuskie]

unreliable source ... that twitter account merely recycles stuff posted on message boards, and I believe this rumor originated from the premium Scout site, and an expert on that site has already said said rumor is unlikely.


Feel free to delete this if people aren't comfortable with speculation or don't consider the source reliable:

"@XUHoopsRumors: Rumor has it there's a player who played significant minutes last year who is looking to transfer. #XUHoopsRumors"

Lots of tweets speculating its Justin, Brandon. Myles, or Dee.

[xavierj]

If I'm reading your post right we don't have a guy who has been in school three years that hasn't played three year.

Justin has been in school 4 years, but played three.

Myles and Jalen have been in school for two years and played one.

What I meant was a guy who has played three years but has only been at Xavier three years and will graduate after three years.

[xsteve1]

unreliable source ... that twitter account merely recycles stuff posted on message boards, and I believe this rumor originated from the premium Scout site, and an expert on that site has already said said rumor is unlikely.

Yes, I'm sure that's where that came from because I asked about the rumor. Even though Snow didn't completely shut it down and I hope it's false.

[xavierj]

unreliable source ... that twitter account merely recycles stuff posted on message boards, and I believe this rumor originated from the premium Scout site, and an expert on that site has already said said rumor is unlikely.

You are probably right but it is possible. To be honest they need two. I think Brandon has a bright future and hope he sticks around.

[casualfan]

What I meant was a guy who has played three years but has only been at Xavier three years and will graduate after three years.

Oh, well then it's Dee Davis...

[xavierj]

James Farr. Just a guess.

I'm not sure they can afford that. Xavier will have basically two returning big men and a freshman big man that they have no idea what he will give them. I think Farr has to come back.

[crolfes12]

If it's about Martin, I just don't understand his mindset. Had a terrific year this past year and is going to be a senior this upcoming year to lead the team. Plus IMO they have a great shot at making a run in the tournament

[xavierj]

If it's about Martin, I just don't understand his mindset. Had a terrific year this past year and is going to be a senior this upcoming year to lead the team. Plus IMO they have a great shot at making a run in the tournament

It won't be Martin. They can't afford that either. Xavier cannot afford to be that small and Martin is too important.

[GoMuskies]

Xavier may not have a choice in the matter.

[xavierj]

Xavier may not have a choice in the matter.

What? Trust me Martin will be at Xavier next year and in the starting lineup.

[BandAid]

Xavier may not have a choice in the matter.

They could pull a St. Joes

[waggy]

If Martin wants leave he can. This isn't prison.

[GoMuskies]

What? Trust me Martin will be at Xavier next year and in the starting lineup.

You may be right. But your post insinuates that Xavier is deciding who is and who is not going to transfer. It may well be that it's not up to Xavier.

[xavierj]

If Martin wants leave he can. This isn't prison.

Why in the world we he want to leave? The coach has always had his back and he has been here for four years. He seems to really enjoy X. Unless he is ready to head to Europe.

[The_Mack_Pack]

Martin has no reason to transfer. He'll be a senior go-to guy on a team he's familiar with. I'd be shocked if he goes somewhere else.

[LA Muskie]

Scholarships are renewable on a year to year basis. Mack/ XU can simply say that the scholarship won't be renewed if they wanted to be dicks about it.
Yes and no. As a matter of contract they can. As a matter of practice pulling a scholarship is EXTREMELY rare and can have significant repercussions. Much like in the business world, there's a big difference between what you can do and what you should do.

[xavierj]

You may be right. But your post insinuates that Xavier is deciding who is and who is not going to transfer. It may well be that it's not up to Xavier.

I get that. I just think Justin Martin is one of the most unlikely candidates.

[LA Muskie]

I'm pretty sure if a coach tells a kid that he won't pull the scholly but that the minutes won't be there, a kid will usually decide on his own to bolt. Why put in all the time and effort when you're basically assured of not playing? Obviously that's the life of a walk-on, but a kid on scholly can usually go to a lesser program and play legit minutes or even start.
This is exactly how it happens. Coaches rarely pull scholarships. And they really don't need to. These kids want to play ball. If you tell them they aren't going to play much, and that while they are welcome back you are also willing to help try to place them somewhere they will play, they will almost always take the latter option.

[waggy]

Why in the world we he want to leave? The coach has always had his back and he has been here for four years. He seems to really enjoy X. Unless he is ready to head to Europe.

There are so many different reasons that someone transfers it's not even worth listing some of them. Transfers are very common now, and they don't always meet conventional wisdom. Have you heard Buzz Williams left Marquette for VA Tech?

Keep an open mind.

[LA Muskie]

We are going to lose two non-graduating players. We know that for a fact. I'll wait to see who it is; it's not really killing me to not know.

[American X]

It's Erik Stenger. He is taking his talents to South Beach.

[xavierj]

There are so many different reasons that someone transfers it's not even worth listing some of them. Transfers are very common now, and they don't always meet conventional wisdom. Have you heard Buzz Williams left Marquette for VA Tech?

Keep an open mind.

I do. I see five guys that might not be at Xavier next year, Justin Martin is not one of them. You will see two of those five not here.

[waggy]

There are a couple different scenarios where I could envision it being Justin. Not that I want that, or even think necessarily it will come to pass. But not impossible either.

[TUclutch]

I do. I see five guys that might not be at Xavier next year, Justin Martin is not one of them. You will see two of those five not here.

Semaj, Myles, Farr, Randolph...whos 5? Dee?

[xsteve1]

Semaj, Myles, Farr, Randolph...whos 5? Dee?

Richards.

[toledodan]

i can't imagine myles davis or reynolds. they already sat out one year, couldn't imagine them sitting another.

[Xavier]

If Davis graduates he can play right away with a school that offers a Masters program that Xavier does not. I don't know if he is on pace but that could be the case. Reynolds was flashing the X all the time, he isn't going anywhere. The only reason Martin could leave is if he wanted to jump on a team that had the potential to really win it all.---(If Maj stays, I think with him/Martin/Stain Xavier could have its best team since the last elite 8 run. I am talking jumping on at AZ, Duke, MSU...)

[XUFan09]

We are going to lose two non-graduating players. We know that for a fact. I'll wait to see who it is; it's not really killing me to not know.

Yup. The half-baked speculation spotted throughout this discussion is pretty funny to read though.

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[XUFan09]

unreliable source ... that twitter account merely recycles stuff posted on message boards, and I believe this rumor originated from the premium Scout site, and an expert on that site has already said said rumor is unlikely.

Yep, beat me to it. Beware the "official-sounding" Twitter handles that are just some jackass with an opinion.

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[XMuskieFTW]

My guess is Semaj and Stainbrook will transfer because logic

[Juice]

Yes and no. As a matter of contract they can. As a matter of practice pulling a scholarship is EXTREMELY rare and can have significant repercussions. Much like in the business world, there's a big difference between what you can do and what you should do.

Agreed. I'm just saying what they can so.

[Masterofreality]

My guess is Brandon Randolph.

A) His father on the West Coast has had health issues and he'd probably want to get back closer.
B) His minutes decreased for a number of reasons.
C) We have a stud in Edmond Sumner coming in and are still recruiting hard for another PG in the 2015 class.

I understand his motivations. Whatever, and whoever the player is, he is a Musketeers until he's not....and I thank him for his contributions.

[XfansinKy]

My guess is Brandon Randolph.

A) His father on the West Coast has had health issues and he'd probably want to get back closer.
B) His minutes decreased for a number of reasons.
C) We have a stud in Edmond Sumner coming in and are still recruiting hard for another PG in the 2015 class.

I understand his motivations. Whatever, and whoever the player is, he is a Musketeers until he's not....and I thank him for his contributions.
I spent a little while browsing videos of Sumner last night and he is the real deal imho. 6'5 with long arms and big time leaping ability. His page has him taking a couple seperate pics with Lebron and CP3 that make him look a legit 6'5. He also seems to have some alpha dog in him. I believe we have a lot to look forward to.

[X-man]

James Farr. Just a guess.

You are very likely correct in this.

[XUOWNSUC]

I want Randolph to stay. I think his growth was stunted by Mack a little bit. The guy looked good when he was playing 30+ minutes during Dee's absence. It's hard to get in a grove when you are only playing one minute each half.

[X-man]

I want Randolph to stay. I think his growth was stunted by Mack a little bit. The guy looked good when he was playing 30+ minutes during Dee's absence. It's hard to get in a grove when you are only playing one minute each half.

I think that he will. My prediction is that Farr and Richards leave, while Semaj and the rest stay for what will be a banner year for Xavier basketball.

[Titanxman04]

My guess is Brandon Randolph.

A) His father on the West Coast has had health issues and he'd probably want to get back closer.
B) His minutes decreased for a number of reasons.
C) We have a stud in Edmond Sumner coming in and are still recruiting hard for another PG in the 2015 class.

I understand his motivations. Whatever, and whoever the player is, he is a Musketeers until he's not....and I thank him for his contributions.

This. These are OUR guys until something changes. Cannot stand it when people wish someone off the team. Martin came around and now everyone seems to love the kid. Who's to say Myles won't get better? Or Farr continues to improve at that rate? Or what about Randolph working on any weaknesses and becoming the sophomore stud that we all love?

Whoever leaves, best of luck to him. But until then, he's a Muskie.

[Muskie]

At this point I'm closing the thread. As is always the case, when there is something to announce, it'll be announced.