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THRILLHOUSE
03-20-2014, 03:19 PM
Wake Forrest is holding a press conference at 5, looks like they are finally wising up and dumping Bzdelik. I would think Archie Miller will be their #1 candidate?

BMoreX
03-20-2014, 03:19 PM
Finally.

vee4xu
03-20-2014, 03:46 PM
News flash: Mrs. Archie Miller just left Buffalo and is heading to Winston-Salem on a house hunting trip. Archie expected to join her after Saturday's loss to Syracuse.

THRILLHOUSE
03-20-2014, 04:38 PM
There is speculation that Jeff Capel is the #1 candidate. Knows the area and is a very good recruiter, don't know how good of coach he actually is though.

Juice
03-20-2014, 04:39 PM
News flash: Mrs. Archie Miller just left Buffalo and is heading to Winston-Salem on a house hunting trip. Archie expected to join her after Saturday's loss to Syracuse.

I read that the early names mentioned are Howland and Capel. Who knows if Wake goes with experience over up and coming.

GoMuskies
03-20-2014, 04:41 PM
That's a terrible job. But it's better than Dayton.

THRILLHOUSE
03-20-2014, 04:41 PM
I read that the early names mentioned are Howland and Capel. Who knows if Wake goes with experience over up and coming.

They certainly can't do worse than Bzdelik...at least I don't think that is possible.

BandAid
03-20-2014, 04:43 PM
There is speculation that Jeff Capel is the #1 candidate. Knows the area and is a very good recruiter, don't know how good of coach he actually is though.

Jeff Capel? The OU and IU coach of infamy? I thought they were trying to clean up their program

GoMuskies
03-20-2014, 04:43 PM
Jeff Capel? The OU and IU coach of infamy? I thought they were trying to clean up their program

Are you thinking of Kelvin Sampson?

LadyMuskie
03-20-2014, 04:43 PM
But it's better than Dayton.

That's not saying much.

THRILLHOUSE
03-20-2014, 04:44 PM
That's a terrible job. But it's better than Dayton.

Yeah, I wouldn't go as far as to call it terrible, but it's extremely tough to win there long term.

THRILLHOUSE
03-20-2014, 04:45 PM
Jeff Capel? The OU and IU coach of infamy? I thought they were trying to clean up their program

Capel did coach at OU, but you are thinking of Kelvin Sampson. Capel took over at Oklahoma after Sampson.

GoMuskies
03-20-2014, 04:45 PM
BandAid's racist. :smile:

BandAid
03-20-2014, 04:47 PM
Are you thinking of Kelvin Sampson?

That's the dude - my mistake

paulxu
03-20-2014, 05:43 PM
That's not saying much.

Extremely low bar.

MHettel
03-20-2014, 06:08 PM
Pat Kelsey? You heard it here first....

XU2011
03-20-2014, 06:13 PM
Why is the idiot Ron Wellman so obsessed with taking shots at Gaudio whenever he can? Wellman didn't even have the guts to officially fire his boy.. he resigned.

From the press release...."recruited very good people, both players and staff, to Wake Forest......the team has shown improvement on the court and superb improvement off the court."

SUPERB improvement off the court? Who says that? And who honestly says WF has improved on the court during his tenure?

If I'm Wake fans, I'd be calling for Wellman to go.

XU2011
03-20-2014, 06:14 PM
Pat Kelsey? You heard it here first....

Wellman seems to have great disdain for the Gaudio era (and by extension, probably the Prosser). No way Ron Wellman would hire a Prosser disciple (and Gaudio assistant) Kelsey.

Juice
03-20-2014, 06:26 PM
Wake's students were pretty happy about the firing https://twitter.com/martinrickman/status/446756198893633536/photo/1

BandAid
03-20-2014, 06:34 PM
BandAid's racist. :smile:

I prefer "ignorant" ;)

xsteve1
03-20-2014, 06:37 PM
Capel sucked at Oklahoma. That would be a bad hire.

THRILLHOUSE
03-20-2014, 06:46 PM
Pat Kelsey? You heard it here first....

0% chance.

THRILLHOUSE
03-20-2014, 06:49 PM
Capel sucked at Oklahoma. That would be a bad hire.

He did get to an Elite 8 at Oklahoma. But didn't do anything after Blake Griffin left.

waggy
03-20-2014, 07:07 PM
Does anyone visit the Wake messageboards? Are the fans behind this talk that the program needed to be cleaned up? There was one kid.. Woods? ...who got in trouble if I remember. Other than that, I don't recall anything.

vee4xu
03-20-2014, 07:10 PM
I looked at the Winston-Salem Journal and the article stated that no one has been happy with him from the day he was hired. His conference road record over three years was like 2-24, or something hideous like that.

X-band '01
03-20-2014, 07:52 PM
Why is the idiot Ron Wellman so obsessed with taking shots at Gaudio whenever he can? Wellman didn't even have the guts to officially fire his boy.. he resigned.

From the press release...."recruited very good people, both players and staff, to Wake Forest......the team has shown improvement on the court and superb improvement off the court."

SUPERB improvement off the court? Who says that? And who honestly says WF has improved on the court during his tenure?

If I'm Wake fans, I'd be calling for Wellman to go.


Does anyone visit the Wake messageboards? Are the fans behind this talk that the program needed to be cleaned up? There was one kid.. Woods? ...who got in trouble if I remember. Other than that, I don't recall anything.

It was back in 2009 when 2 former Wake Forest players allegedly raped a fellow student in a hotel room during the NCAA Tournament that year (see link below):

TheSportsBlog.com Link from 2011 - Big Wake Forest Scandal? (http://www.theesportsblog.com/2011/05/big-wake-forest-basketball-scandal/)

I don't remember any charges coming out of this incident, but I'm wondering if how this was handled by Gaudio and his staff may have led to his dismissal.

Rollins4Prez
03-21-2014, 12:30 AM
The culture claim was complete misdirection for firing Gaudio. He and Welman had personal issues with each other allegedly.

That being said, calling Wake a terrible job is completely inaccurate. It's not Duke or UNC but Wake was one of the best programs in the ACC in the 90s and first ten years of the 2000s. They were ranked first in the country two separate years in the last ten. They just always underperform in the tournament. A good coach should have Wake as a consistently solid program.

UCGRAD4X
03-21-2014, 09:15 AM
The culture claim was complete misdirection for firing Gaudio. He and Welman had personal issues with each other allegedly.

That being said, calling Wake a terrible job is completely inaccurate. It's not Duke or UNC but Wake was one of the best programs in the ACC in the 90s and first ten years of the 2000s. They were ranked first in the country two separate years in the last ten. They just always underperform in the tournament. A good coach should have Wake as a consistently solid program.

Agreed. This SHOULD be a great coaching gig….once they get rid of Welman...

nuts4xu
03-21-2014, 09:53 AM
Wake is a better job than NC State, but it is still a tough, tough job. Taking a job in the ACC at a school not named Duke, UNC, or Syracuse is going to give you some tough sledding.

throwbackmuskie
03-21-2014, 10:42 AM
Might be a long shot, but Brad Underwood might be a name to watch out for.

blueblob06
03-21-2014, 11:03 AM
I looked at the Winston-Salem Journal and the article stated that no one has been happy with him from the day he was hired. His conference road record over three years was like 2-24, or something hideous like that.

There was an AMAZING site tracking how bad Wake has been the last few years...a few guys built it...it was awesome when I looked last year. I think I found the link on the boards here possibly. Great stats, great quotes about how bad they were. Anybody remember that? The site was very, very eye-opening at how bad it's been under this guy.

bobbiemcgee
03-21-2014, 12:26 PM
Looks like a good gig for Archie.

bobbiemcgee
03-21-2014, 12:37 PM
or this guy:

http://4.images.spike.com/images/massives/2011/03/DennisHopperHoosiers.gif?quality=0.91

Rollins4Prez
03-21-2014, 01:16 PM
There was an AMAZING site tracking how bad Wake has been the last few years...a few guys built it...it was awesome when I looked last year. I think I found the link on the boards here possibly. Great stats, great quotes about how bad they were. Anybody remember that? The site was very, very eye-opening at how bad it's been under this guy.

Firebz.com

2 road wins in the ACC in 4 years.

He also famously said the team didn't play well on a Tuesday because Tuesday is a tough day of classes at Wake.

Muskie
03-21-2014, 01:49 PM
He also famously said the team didn't play well on a Tuesday because Tuesday is a tough day of classes at Wake.

A+ for originality, F for execution.