General Tourney Talk

[Snipe]

I am a huge Shocker fan in this tournament.

Wanted to ask Go who is would be rooting for if his Shockers play his Cards. Might make him an unpopular man around town, and in his family.

[xsteve1]

And as Tweeted by Shannon, showing up to root against X during practice. No less that it was St. Patrick's Day and those kids should be partying somewhere.

Heckling our guys during practice was extremely weak. I'm surprised the UD administration let them do that.

[GoMuskies]

That was a huge 3 by UK right before halftime. If this was a 9 point game at halftime, UK would feel much, much worse about their chances of coming back.

But WSU is pretty clearly the superior team, so they should be okay.

[vee4xu]

Maybe we are going about this all wrong. Maybe we should be rooting FOR ud instead of against them. If the sports gods are contrary to our wishes about a rival, maybe rooting for them will help eliminate ud from the tourney. Just a suggestion.

[GoMuskies]

Wanted to ask Go who is would be rooting for if his Shockers play his Cards. Might make him an unpopular man around town, and in his family.

I wore Shocker gear watching the Final Four last year, and I would do the same while watching the Sweet Sixteen if it comes to be.

[Snipe]

Teams that I am rooting for have not faired well in the tourney, Flyers aside.

I was rooting for the A-10 teams. ST Joes choked. UMass didn't show up. SLU went down. GW went down. My elite 8 VCU went down. I had Nova winning it all. That was bright. When Duke went down I thought my Elite 8 UMass pick was going to be all the rage.

Gotta have someone to root for, so I am rooting for Creighton, Wichita St and Dayton.

If Creighton looses we won't have a Big East team get out of the first weekend. That will depress me. Plus it is fun to root for them they way they play.

[Cheesehead]

Sorry, I can't get myself to root for UD. Miami is ok because their fans are not obnoxious idiots. UC? Not going to happen either. YTG is too much of a douche but I respect the school.

[Snipe]

I wore Shocker gear watching the Final Four last year, and I would do the same while watching the Sweet Sixteen if it comes to be.

You notice he didn't say that he wasn't secretly rooting for Louisville, he may just be a covert operative in a sea of Shocker mania.

[GoMuskies]

I hate Rick Pitino. Pretty much the only teams I'd root for Louisville against are UK and Dayton.

[LadyMuskie]

Sorry, I can't get myself to root for UD. Miami is ok because their fans are not obnoxious idiots. UC? Not going to happen either. YTG is too much of a douche but I respect the school.

Yeah. I will never root for UD. I have rooted for UC in the past and would maybe do so in the future. But, UD's fans are the worst kind of fans that there are. I've never met a fanbase suffering so much from an inferiority complex as UD's. Even people I know who are UD grads are obnoxious when discussing basketball. Although, being friends with one particular UD grads has netted my husband a case of beer each year since '01 until this year. So, there is some silver lining.

[paulxu]

I've never met a fanbase suffering so much from an inferiority complex as UD's.

In the case of the fanbase, it's not a complex. For many it is a reality.

[Caveat]

Once Xavier gets knocked in a tourney, I immediately start rooting against underdogs advancing. If a smaller school is going to win a national title, I want it to be Xavier first.

[xsteve1]

I think a loss would have been good for Wichita in the MVC tourney. Ton's of pressure on them.

[xsteve1]

I was always mesmerized why Marshall was at Winthrop for so long. I mean how difficult was it to see that the guy was an unbelievable coach. He frickin made Winthrop relevant.

[BandAid]

I think a loss would have been good for Wichita in the MVC tourney. Ton's of pressure on them.

I don't know. I feel like the streak doesn't matter now that they're in the tournament. I mean, obviously it's still going on, but wouldn't your focus be on winning the tournament instead of some streak? If they lose is the first thought isn't "aw man, the streak..." I think it'd be "aw man, the final four..." or "aw man, the championship."

[GoMuskies]

This Kentucky/WSU game is amazing.

[Masterofreality]

This Kentucky/WSU game is amazing.

Yes it is. Switching between Jay Kokrak and the game.

[xsteve1]

Early is unreal.

[GoMuskies]

Dammit. This is horrible.

[BandAid]

I hate Kentucky

[BandAid]

should've been an and 1!

[GoMuskies]

I hate Kentucky.

[GoMuskies]

Oh my! This is huge. HUGE!

[xsteve1]

I think UK has this, hope I'm wrong. I think you go for 2 here.

[GoMuskies]

I hate the NCAA Tournament this year.

[SM#24]

I hate the NCAA Tournament this year.

Times 10

[THRILLHOUSE]

I love how many good games there have been, just hate a lot of the results.

[BandAid]

Creighton is my only hope for this tournament.

[MADXSTER]

Kentucky got every call and more importantly every no-call in the last five minutes.

[Snipe]

UK got quite a whistle. They came back on the free throw line.

[Snipe]

Kentucky got every call and more importantly every no-call in the last five minutes.

glad it just wasn't me, Jesus.

[Snipe]

Creighton is my only hope for this tournament.

me too, I really like them, that means they will probably flame out like the rest of them

[MADXSTER]

I hate the NCAA Tournament this year.

Disagree. With the exception of Xavier, I absolutely Love the tournament this year.

[Masterofreality]

UK got quite a whistle. They came back on the free throw line.

After losing their 'Cuse and Dook cash cows, CBS couldn't afford another loss of Kentucky.

[X Factor]

Once Xavier gets knocked in a tourney, I immediately start rooting against underdogs advancing. If a smaller school is going to win a national title, I want it to be Xavier first.


This. I'm exactly the same way. I might root for Creighton this year though since they're in the Big East.

[BandAid]

I guess I can also cheer for Iowa St. My uncles went to school there and I like Fred Hoiberg

[SM#24]

After losing their 'Cuse and Dook cash cows, CBS couldn't afford another loss of Kentucky.

So you think NCAA and CBS officials gave the refs a talking to before the game ?

[Muskie]

I'm not ashamed to say I'll be pulling for Arizona tonight.

[SM#24]

Ariz is the only team left I remotely want to win

[OTRMUSKIE]

ariz is the only team left i remotely want to win

why?

[GoMuskies]

Go Zags!

[xfan52]

Heck of a game. Figured 2nd half would be tough on WSU

[xfan52]

Just were not challenged in their conference. To be a real number 1. They almost proved me less then knowledgeable

[American X]

Kentucky - Witchita State was the best game of the tournament so far, Final Four quality. Two talented, well-coached teams throwing hay-makers at each other. Too many games this tournament have been one team sucking less than the other (e.g. both Standford and Dayton in Sweet Sixteen).

Only flaw was it should have ended on a game-winning shot since both teams executed so well the entire game. Sometimes I think coaches over-coach. Not sure what advantage WSU gained by Marshall calling timeout with 3 seconds left instead of continuing to the basket in transition. Just ended up in a rushed three-pointer.

UNC-Iowa State is highly entertaining basketball also.

[Cheesehead]

Kentucky - Witchita State was the best game of the tournament so far, Final Four quality. Two talented, well-coached teams throwing hay-makers at each other. Too many games this tournament have been one team sucking less than the other (e.g. both Standford and Dayton in Sweet Sixteen).

Only flaw was it should have ended on a game-winning shot since both teams executed so well the entire game. Sometimes I think coaches over-coach. Not sure what advantage WSU gained by Marshall calling timeout with 3 seconds left instead of continuing to the basket in transition. Just ended up in a rushed three-pointer.

UNC-Iowa State is highly entertaining basketball also.
Agreed. I think I would just let the end of the game play out without letting UK call timeout to set their defense.

[XU 87]

Agreed. I think I would just let the end of the game play out without letting UK call timeout to set their defense.

I'm guessing that Marshall didn't like what he saw and that's why he called the t o. Ky had everyone back on defense in front of his guy with the ball. The tv announcer mentioned that Marshall is pretty good at drawing up out of bounds plays.

[xsteve1]

Really hope Mercer can take out Tenn.

[XUFan09]

Just were not challenged in their conference. To be a real number 1. They almost proved me less then knowledgeable

I don't know if that's the best narrative here. Kentucky is an inconsistent team, which is why they got an 8 seed, but when they're on, they are one of the best teams in the country. The Wildcats today could beat anyone, regardless of how challenging a team's conference slate was.

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[mohr5150]

I will be officially boycotting the rest of this tournament, at least until Kentucky and the Dump are out. All that is evil won today. Slimeapari and his one and done system won against a great team of players who value school. Screw them and screw the NCAA.

[Muskie]

Great finish to UNC and Iowa State

[LA Muskie]

I guess they've got to fix the clock in Raleigh too? Dean handled that well. Glad to see him take it with class.

[whiteyxu]

Wow. Anyone having flashbacks to the Butler game? NC botched the ending there, and the officials got it right, but that's a horrible way to lose a game.

[X-band '01]

Bo Boroski is an official for this game? I seem to recall he was involved in another game involving a frozen clock. And this is with modern Precision Time technology...

[BandAid]

Great finish to UNC and Iowa State

Only because the Cyclones won!

[whiteyxu]

I will be officially boycotting the rest of this tournament, at least until Kentucky and the Dump are out. All that is evil won today. Slimeapari and his one and done system won against a great team of players who value school. Screw them and screw the NCAA.

At least Stanford beat Kansas and I will be able to root for somebody against dayton

[Muskie]

Bo Boroski is an official for this game? I seem to recall he was involved in another game involving a frozen clock. And this is with modern Precision Time technology...

True story. When we rented our wedding reception space, Bo was the person in charge of that facility. He's a very nice guy and did a great job for our reception.

[BMoreX]

ACC with one last chance to get 1 team into the Sweet 16.

[vee4xu]

ACC with one last chance to get 1 team into the Sweet 16.

So, what was that Coach K was saying about NC State and the ACC vs. A-10 with their 6 bids. Though with ud the sole remaining A-10 rep, they were no great shakes either. Both leagues stunk it up.

[SM#24]

Ariz is the only team left I remotely want to win


why?

Because contrary to popular opinion around here, I like Sean

[The_Mack_Pack]

Jarnell Stokes has 7 more rebounds right now than Mercer does as a team.

[SM#24]

Just were not challenged in their conference. To be a real number 1. They almost proved me less then knowledgeable


I don't know if that's the best narrative here. Kentucky is an inconsistent team, which is why they got an 8 seed, but when they're on, they are one of the best teams in the country. The Wildcats today could beat anyone, regardless of how challenging a team's conference slate was.

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I agree with 09. I thought Wichita St. was clearly one of the two best teams all year from any measure including the acclaimed eyeball test (or three if you count Ariz. with Ashley). I just think UK played a great game today. Obviously, the talent is there for UK, today they put it all together.

[xudash]

With North Carolina's demise, who is left in the vaunted ACC?

[THRILLHOUSE]

With North Carolina's demise, who is left in the vaunted ACC?

Virginia

[gladdenguy]

If Virginia loses tonight there will be more A10 teams than ACC teams.
Big 10 and SEC with 3. American could have 3 if Memphis wins. We can conclude top to bottom the best conference was the Big 10 this year.

[xsteve1]

I like Creighton's new uni's.

[xsteve1]

Baylor on fire. Figures.

[The_Mack_Pack]

It's early but Creighton is in a ton of trouble.

[Muskie]

I like Creighton's new uni's.

I like the colors but not the font for the numbers.

[BandAid]

already turned it off

[Muskie]

If Creighton doesn't hit 3's they are vulnerable.

[Xavgrad08]

Creighton is getting run out of the Gym. They are really struggling with Baylor's athleticism.

[vee4xu]

already turned it off

A few years back, bourbonman and I went to Atlanta to watch X play Baylor in the Georgia Dome. It was a scene similar to what Baylor is doing to Creighton tonight. Unfortunately, there was not remote that allowed me to turn off the game and I spent too much time and money to leave early.

[The_Mack_Pack]

Villanova was really the only chance the BE had at a team making a deep run. It was only a matter of time before Creighton's lack of size caught up with them.

[X-Fan]

Crap. It's getting late early in San Antonio. Baylors size/athleticism is killing Creighton. Zoning them up like Providence showed everyone. Not looking good.

[Juice]

If Virginia loses tonight there will be more A10 teams than ACC teams.
Big 10 and SEC with 3. American could have 3 if Memphis wins. We can conclude top to bottom the best conference was the Big 10 this year.

I'd still take the Big 12 over the Big 10.

[xsteve1]

Definite make up call on the charge by the ref who gave McDermott his 2nd foul.

[GoMuskies]

Can we finally dispense with the notion that coming in third in the Big East this year was any sort of accomplishment?

[The_Mack_Pack]

Creighton is not going to be good next season.

[casualfan]

Creighton dodged a huge bullet there.

No call on what easily could have been a charge on McDermott and then they charged a foul to Gibbs on a play that could have easily went against Dougie.

Back to back plays where he could have/should have got his third.

[The_Mack_Pack]

Can we finally dispense with the notion that coming in third in the Big East this year was any sort of accomplishment?

Doesn't say much for Marquette, GTown, and St. Johns. But let's be honest, if the old BE was still together it would have been a down year by their standards too.

[xudash]

Can we finally dispense with the notion that coming in third in the Big East this year was any sort of accomplishment?

No.

[xudash]

Can we finally dispense with the notion that coming in third in the Big East this year was any sort of accomplishment?

Yes.

[xsteve1]

Can we finally dispense with the notion that coming in third in the Big East this year was any sort of accomplishment?

Hopefully this year was the low point for the league. To be honest X just wasn't very good and coming in 3rd speaks volume about the league this year.

[SM#24]

Can we finally dispense with the notion that coming in third in the Big East this year was any sort of accomplishment?

And a three way tie at that which was only one win over .500

[Masterofreality]

Can we finally dispense with the notion that coming in third in the Big East this year was any sort of accomplishment?

Jezzuz, we made the Tournament.

What would you like us to do? NOT make the Tournament?

I guess we should go back to the Atlantic 10.

[GoMuskies]

I'm happy we made the Tournament (sort of). I think this season met bare minimum expectations.

[SM#24]

Doesn't say much for Marquette, GTown, and St. Johns. But let's be honest, if the old BE was still together it would have been a down year by their standards too.
This year's BE sent 4 of 10; last year's config. had 7 of 15 (and 2 in sweet 16).

[xfan52]

Wonder what scalpers will get for the Louisville Kentucky game. It won't be cheap

[The_Mack_Pack]

This year's BE sent 4 of 10; last year's config. had 7 of 15 (and 2 in sweet 16).

Well UConn and Nova played each other so someone had to make the Sweet16 of those two. That BE used to send 8-9 teams and have multiple title contenders so it would still be a down season for them.

[LadyMuskie]

Doesn't say much for Marquette, GTown, and St. Johns. But let's be honest, if the old BE was still together it would have been a down year by their standards too.

I think it's a down year for NCAA basketball across the board. What team really blows you away consistently and is still playing? Arizona? Louisville? Maybe, Florida. This is one of those years where I won't be surprised if a team like Iowa State is in the NC game. It's just a weird, off year for college basketball.

[LadyMuskie]

Jezzuz, we made the Tournament.

What would you like us to do? NOT make the Tournament?

I guess we should go back to the Atlantic 10.

It's not personal, MOR. We didn't have a good year. We have to be able to acknowledge that and not be like the fans that shall not be named who think they're great no matter how bad they do. Everybody shouldn't get a pat on the back for being just okay. Could we have done worse with what we had? Yes. Could we have done much better with what we had? Yes. Just making the tournament, just doing barely enough, shouldn't be good enough. It doesn't mean you have to fire the head coach or get the pitch forks and torches out, but damn. At least admit that we didn't accomplish some great feat of basketball glory this year just by moving conferences and then losing rather pathetically in a play-in game in Dayton.

[waggy]

No.


Yes.

Obviously, someone snuck into Dash's office. I'm just not sure which is the imposter.

[xsteve1]

Creighton is done. No way they come back here.

[The_Mack_Pack]

It would take a massive collapse by Baylor and probably 10+ threes from Creighton.

[xsteve1]

UVA will put Memphis away soon enough.

[xsteve1]

Creighton going to be down 30 here soon.

[paulxu]

Can we finally dispense with the notion that coming in third in the Big East this year was any sort of accomplishment?


Obviously, someone snuck into Dash's office. I'm just not sure which is the imposter.

Let me clear up any confusion he seems to have created.

Maybe.

[xsteve1]

Baylor has a payroll that rivals any on the college level.

[casualfan]

Welp, here's an opinion from a coach with one of the top NY area AAU program...

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[SM#24]

I'm trying to figure out how Baylor was so bad earlier in the season.

[The_Mack_Pack]

If Xavier, Nova, and Creighton could've played well and lost then it wouldn't be so bad but for all three to be pounded is embarrassing. At least Providence gave up a fight.

[xavierj]

I think it's a down year for NCAA basketball across the board. What team really blows you away consistently and is still playing? Arizona? Louisville? Maybe, Florida. This is one of those years where I won't be surprised if a team like Iowa State is in the NC game. It's just a weird, off year for college basketball.

I think top to bottom Florida is the best team in the country and should win it all. They are loaded. Louisville has not really impressed me much at all. Kentucky will beat Louisville again.

[casualfan]

I'm trying to figure out how Baylor was so bad earlier in the season.

They play in the Big 12.

They had one stretch where they lot 7 of 9, but thoe 7 losses were to Iowa State, TTU, Oklahoma, Kansas, Texas, WVU, Kansas and Oklahoma.

The only one of those losses that is a bad loss is Texas Tech.

[xsteve1]

If Xavier, Nova, and Creighton could've played well and lost then it wouldn't be so bad but for all three to be pounded is embarrassing. At least Providence gave up a fight.

Providence was probably the best team in the league at years end.

[SM#24]

It's not personal, MOR. We didn't have a good year. We have to be able to acknowledge that and not be like the fans that shall not be named who think they're great no matter how bad they do. Everybody shouldn't get a pat on the back for being just okay. Could we have done worse with what we had? Yes. Could we have done much better with what we had? Yes. Just making the tournament, just doing barely enough, shouldn't be good enough. It doesn't mean you have to fire the head coach or get the pitch forks and torches out, but damn. At least admit that we didn't accomplish some great feat of basketball glory this year just by moving conferences and then losing rather pathetically in a play-in game in Dayton.
I agree. We had an OK year. This the 30th year of the 64+ team tourney format. We've made the tournament in 22 of those years and just barely this year. If I ranked our teams of the last 30 years, this team would certainly rank in the bottom half. So, by our standards while I wouldn't say it was a bad year because we did make the tournament, it was a mediocre season.

That said, I still think the future for our program and our conference is very bright.

[paulxu]

Does Creighton play defense?

Baylor is shooting at a 67% clip....and 77% (!!) from behind the arc.

[xudash]

Obviously, someone snuck into Dash's office. I'm just not sure which is the imposter.

I have met the enemy and it is me.

Now for my next kernel of magnificent thought: stuff happens in the NCAA tournament. It just does.

Baylor clearly is the longer, more athletic team. But Baylor also is having one of those nights. It happens.

There is no reason to overreact to all this. The AAU coach is entitled to his opinion. Perhaps he is a big fan of one of the teams that no longer is in the conference. Whatever.

Xavier will be fine. The Big East will be fine. And as I sit here, watching Creighton get slaughtered, I can only be thankful of the fact that I'm doing so as a fan of a BE team.

[Masterofreality]

UVA will put Memphis away soon enough.

And......they....are.

Virginia up 15 at half.

[xsteve1]

And......they....are.

Virginia up 15 at half.

GW ought to be embarrassed for losing to that pitiful team.

[vee4xu]

Creighton's total reliance on the three and its ability to outscore its porous defense all year allowed them to avoid the kind of game that is going on tonight versus Baylor. Creighton was destined to play this game at some point all this past season. Too bad they waited for their biggest stage to do so.

[Masterofreality]

GW ought to be embarrassed for losing to that pitiful team.

I should start a poll.

Which coach is worse? Pastner or Kellogg- Both Slimy Calamari desciples.

[vee4xu]

My son and I were talking tonight and decided that the overall seeding this year was a mess. You have the likes of NC State, X, Iowa and Tennessee in play-in games and BYU and Colorado as #10 and #8 respectively. Also, I know that UK had an up-and-down year, but how in goodness' name are they on the same seed line as Colorado? Surely there are examples that I missed. Really messy this year.

[xsteve1]

This is a pretty typical NCAA performance by Creighton. They always seem to crap the bed.

[Masterofreality]

My son and I were talking tonight and decided that the overall seeding this year was a mess. You have the likes of NC State, X, Iowa and Tennessee in play-in games and BYU and Colorado as #10 and #8 respectively. Also, I know that UK had an up-and-down year, but how in goodness' name are they on the same seed line as Colorado? Surely there are examples that I missed. Really messy this year.

Wellman hired Bdzelik. Would you really trust him to run an efficient NCAA Tourney?

[X-Fan]

Creighton's total reliance on the three and its ability to outscore its porous defense all year allowed them to avoid the kind of game that is going on tonight versus Baylor. Creighton was destined to play this game at some point all this past season. Too bad they waited for their biggest stage to do so.
Yeah, as we've all said, the Tourney is as much about playing well as it is about match-ups. Baylor's size and athleticism nullified a Creighton team not playing it's best. Baylor is HOT at the right time. Creighton peaked in the middle of conference season.

That all said, I hate to see McBuckets go out like this.

[SM#24]

My biggest issue right now with the Big East, is that I do not think it has a strong stable of coaches. Or certainly, the jury is out on quite a couple of them such as McDermott sans son, Miller. There's coaches I personally would not want coaching Xavier (Lavin, Thompson, Purnell). I'm indifferent on Wright and Willard. The only coach I actually really like the conference is Cooley, other than Mack of course.

I actually like a lot of the coaches in the A10 which has directly impacted the numbers of bids it has received the past two years.

[vee4xu]

I should start a poll.

Which coach is worse? Pastner or Kellogg- Both Slimy Calamari desciples.

The question in my mind tonight is if the Miller family Consigliere Slimy Calamari will be advising Archie in a similar way as he did Sean before he drove his Lexus to Arizona? Thing is, Sean will be tag teaming Archie who I am almost certain will kiss the Consigliere's ring and move on to another job after ud exits.

[SM#24]

Wellman hired Bdzelik. Would you really trust him to run an efficient NCAA Tourney?

No, it seems they collectively under Wellman's guidance used RPI predominantly to set the seeds.

[xsteve1]

I really liked what Greg McDermott did there. He's a class act.

[vee4xu]

Creighton is flat out going down in flames. Could be the worst overall loss of the entire NCAA tourney so far, no?

[LadyMuskie]

Creighton is flat out going down in flames. Could be the worse loss of the entire NCAA tourney so far, no?

Yes! What happened on Tuesday night? I don't know. I can't remember! This may go down as the worst game of basketball ever and no one will remember how bad we looked. :jig:

[SM#24]

I really liked what Greg McDermott did there. He's a class act.

Can you elaborate, I already switched. Thanks

[vee4xu]

Welp, been a heck of a five days of basketball, starting with our loss to NC State and ending with a Creighton blowout. Time to hit the hay. Meeting my ud buddy at Starbucks tomorrow at 6:45 a.m., so off to bed.

[xsteve1]

Can you elaborate, I already switched. Thanks

Basically showed his appreciation for each of his seniors taking them out one by one and hugging them and thanking them. It seemed real sincere and shows he cares a lot about those kids.

[xsteve1]

Arizona working over Gonzaga. The games this evening have all blown.

[paulxu]

Since my bracket is taking a real beating, this just never entered my mind until now.
Dayton only has a 10 seed between them and the E8. They would be wise to seize that sort of opportunity.
Maybe it's karma after wandering in the wilderness for 30 years.

[Muskie]

I had high hopes for some great games tonight. All of them have been blow-outs so far.

[X-Fan]

Arizona working over Gonzaga. The games this evening have all blown.
Zona is running/dunking all over them. Did Few realize who he was playing?

[SM#24]

Arizona working over Gonzaga. The games this evening have all blown.

Dare I utter a Miller-Miller NC game ? It would be like the HarBowl.

[xfan52]

Dare I utter a Miller-Miller NC game ? It would be like the HarBowl.

That would be so cool.

[xudash]

Dare I utter a Miller-Miller NC game ? It would be like the HarBowl.

Please don't go there. Please dare not utter that.

Stanford will take Dayton out.

[LadyMuskie]

That would be so cool.

Really, Xfan? You think it would be cool to see Dayton in the title game? Interesting.

[xsteve1]

That would be so cool.

Are you a Dayton fan? You did join today.

[xfan52]

Are you a Dayton fan? You did join today.

No I'm a basketball fan . Not all X fans are haters.

[xfan52]

Are you a Dayton fan? You did join today.

Paranoid much

[xsteve1]

Paranoid much

wow, a little thin skinned.

[xfan52]

I just think it would be really interesting to see little brother and big brother coach against each other. Would really catch the nations attention. I've been a X fan since they first started playing in the Gardens. And Andy Macwilliams was doing their games

[LadyMuskie]

Paranoid much

Defensive much?

[CinciX12]

I think people are too quick to diminish two to three months of conference play to just a bad showing in the Tournament.

But man, Creighton and Nova are not giving us all much to brag about after this weekend.

[xfan52]

Defensive much?
I guess when people start attacking you for what you believe, yes it makes one a little defensive. I joined this to talk basketball. One of the first things I posted was I thought Ky would beat WSU and you would have thought I shot the Pope. Was call unknowledgeable, stupid, ect. Every time someone says something that you don't agree with they are attacked

[GoMuskies]

All of my brackets are busted and all of the teams I am interested in are out. I could not be less interested in the Sweet Sixteen this year.

[LA Muskie]

The question in my mind tonight is if the Miller family Consigliere Slimy Calamari will be advising Archie in a similar way as he did Sean before he drove his Lexus to Arizona? Thing is, Sean will be tag teaming Archie who I am almost certain will kiss the Consigliere's ring and move on to another job after ud exits.
Why would Archie need to go to Cal for advice? He has his big brother. That's all he needs.

[LadyMuskie]

All of my brackets are busted and all of the teams I am interested in are out. I could not be less interested in the Sweet Sixteen this year.

But some Xavier fans are hoping for a really cool NC matchup between Sean and Archie. You're not excited for that cool matchup?!?!?!

[waggy]

And things started out so well Go. Halfway thru day 1 you were on track to be mentioned in the same breathe as Warren Buffett.

Some of the games look interesting. Tennessee maybe?

[LA Muskie]

I think people are too quick to diminish two to three months of conference play to just a bad showing in the Tournament.
I agree. Although it applies to more than just the BE (see, e.g., the A-10 and ACC haters on this board...) Frankly while we got 3 1/2 in, I didn't expect any but 2 to advance past the first game, and I had my concerns that any could reach the 2nd weekend. Sadly the opening weekend for the BE teams came out pretty much exactly as I expected it would. It just wasn't our year -- XU wise or BE-wise.

[LA Muskie]

I guess when people start attacking you for what you believe, yes it makes one a little defensive. I joined this to talk basketball. One of the first things I posted was I thought Ky would beat WSU and you would have thought I shot the Pope. Was call unknowledgeable, stupid, ect. Every time someone says something that you don't agree with they are attacked

52, folks around here can be a bit sensitive when it comes to Dayton (and former coaches). I really don't want to see Dayton in the NC game either, but I will grant you that if it happened to happen it would be pretty interesting to have brothers coaching against each other.

[X-Fan]

I guess when people start attacking you for what you believe, yes it makes one a little defensive. I joined this to talk basketball. One of the first things I posted was I thought Ky would beat WSU and you would have thought I shot the Pope. Was call unknowledgeable, stupid, ect. Every time someone says something that you don't agree with they are attacked
Whenever you are a new poster people are going to question your intentions. You have to build up a reputation for people to feel comfortable you aren't a "troll." Fair? Unfair? It is what it is.

[GoMuskies]

I think people are too quick to diminish two to three months of conference play to just a bad showing in the Tournament.


And sometimes the NCAA Tournament simply confirms why the third place team in a league is a banished to a play-in game.

[xfan52]

There was a guy on ESPN Saturday that made it out of the second round with a perfect bracket, but did not do the Buffet thing. I got in late, so not sure how ESPN knew he was perfect( it was not in their bracket contest). Anyway they were going to ask Buffet to give the kid an exemption. His must have been busted because they have not mentioned it again.

[BandAid]

What X-Fan said, especially considering this is your first ever post:


We call them the cryers but listen too us. We are as bad as them. Cheering against someone instead of for someone

dayton apologists (unless well established posters) go through a vetting process

[xsteve1]

Arizona is just so well coached. They rarely make stupid decisions and are always in the right spots.

[xfan52]

Whenever you are a new poster people are going to question your intentions. You have to build up a reputation for people to feel comfortable you aren't a "troll." Fair? Unfair? It is what it is.

I understand that, but an " I disagree with you" is much more civilized then a " You are not knowledgeable" or " you are stupid". I have never called someone I don't know stupid. Guess I expect people to act in a civilized manner

[LadyMuskie]

I understand that, but an " I disagree with you" is much more civilized then a " You are not knowledgeable" or " you are stupid". I have never called someone I don't know stupid. Guess I expect people to act in a civilized manner

Civilized, or dare I say, classy.

[xfan52]

What X-Fan said, especially considering this is your first ever post:



dayton apologists (unless well established posters) go through a vetting process

I don't need vetted. Not that important to me. Just wanted to talk X basketball and basketball in general. Then saw all this venom toward anyone not marching to their drummer. I'd like to stay, but will not be slammed for an innocent remark.

[GoMuskies]

Darn

[xavierj]

I don't need vetted. Not that important to me. Just wanted to talk X basketball and basketball in general. Then saw all this venom toward anyone not marching to their drummer. I'd like to stay, but will not be slammed for an innocent remark.

You said people should root for Dayton. Is everyone supposed to root for everyone and hope for a tie?

[xudash]

GONE zaga

[LadyMuskie]

You said people should root for Dayton. Is everyone supposed to root for everyone and hope for a tie?

No Hate! Embrace the love!

[xfan52]

[QUOTE=xavierj;443374]You said people should root for Dayton. Is everyone supposed to root for everyone and hope for a tie?[/QUO
I didn't say people should root for Dayton. I said I root for all local teams. Do not think all people should do what I do.

[xavierj]

[QUOTE=xavierj;443374]You said people should root for Dayton. Is everyone supposed to root for everyone and hope for a tie?[/QUO
I didn't say people should root for Dayton. I said I root for all local teams. Do not think all people should do what I do.

Gawd no. And you asked why people cheer against teams instead of for them. When a team plays Xavier I root against the other team. Sometimes I watch games and hope one of the teams won't win.

[chico]

That Gordon kid for Arizona is an absolute freak.

[xudash]

If I recognizes his voice correctly, I believe Gottlieb is doing this game. He just mentioned that he interviewed Mark few last night and that Mark few told him that he considered himself to be a better fisherman than a coach. Goes fishing whenever he can.

9 1/2 in the zags are down 23. This one is over.

[X-Fan]

I don't need vetted. Not that important to me. Just wanted to talk X basketball and basketball in general. Then saw all this venom toward anyone not marching to their drummer. I'd like to stay, but will not be slammed for an innocent remark.


Darn
LOL! It won't be the same without you. Oh wait, you've been here for 5 minutes. Yes, yes it will.

If you stay, I'd like to suggest you work on your timing. UD doing well, you join an X board, post supporting UD comments...see what I'm saying?

Also, if you'd like a fast track to being widely accepted, become a XHoops Supporting Member.

<<<<<<<<< Those people are solid SOLID human beings. ;-)

#freeadvice

You're welcome.

[American X]

We call them the cryers but listen too us. We are as bad as them. Cheering against someone instead of for someone

You have until dawn to answer one of the following questions correctly:

1) Were you there?? Did you hear??

2) Can you name one other name for Snipe?

3) What was Will Caudle's nickname?

4) Was McCarty Hall or Hewitt Hall better?

[GoMuskies]

If I recognizes his voice correctly, I believe Gottlieb is doing this game. He just mentioned that he interviewed Mark few last night and that Mark few told him that he considered himself to be a better fisherman than a coach. Goes fishing whenever he can.


I say good for him. Perhaps he's stayed at Gonzaga all these years for the work-life balance. He's earned the right to go fishing pretty much whenever he wants.

[xfan52]

[QUOTE=xfan52;443377]

Gawd no. And you asked why people cheer against teams instead of for them. When a team plays Xavier I root against the other team. Sometimes I watch games and hope one of the teams won't win.
Have no idea what that means. When a local team is playing in the Dance against a team from out of the area, I root for them. Same in regular season. Obviously when 2 local teams are playing each other, I usually have a preference, or just watch it for the hope of an exciting game. Don't know why I'm even explaining myself at this point.

[xudash]

So this has been a rough day for the remaining Jesuit schools in the tournament.

[OH.X.MI]

If you stay, I'd like to suggest you work on your timing. UD doing well, you join an X board, post supporting UD comments...see what I'm saying?

Also, if you'd like a fast track to being widely accepted, become a XHoops Supporting Member.

<<<<<<<<< Those people are solid SOLID human beings. ;-)

#freeadvice

You're welcome.

Haha I became a supporting member and am still scared of you long time posters!

But really, this dude is a Dayton troll without a doubt. Cheer for a local rival? Give me a break.

[xfan52]

You have until dawn to answer one of the following questions correctly:

1) Were you there?? Did you hear??

2) Can you name one other name for Snipe?

3) What was Will Caudle's nickname?

4) Was McCarty Hall or Hewitt Hall better?

Not a troll. Just someone that likes talking and discussing sports politics news eft. I'm out of here. Don't need to prove anything to you. Sorry I waisted your time and mine. Big Will by the way

[GoMuskies]

Big Will by the way

Damn, we clearly chased away one of our own. Now I feel just terrible.

[xfan52]

Damn, we clearly chased away one of our own. Now I feel just terrible.

I have some free advise for all of you. Why not just make this message board private. That way no new thoughts or ideas can get in and infect you. You can all just sit around and pretend you know it all. Wow never seen a non smack message board this rude

[boozehound]

The NCAA tournament is pretty much over for me, outside of rooting for Michigan to win. Dayton in the Sweet 16? Kentucky? Nova and Creighton both crapped out? What a terrible field.

[Tardy Turtle]

I have some free advise for all of you. Why not just make this message board private. That way no new thoughts or ideas can get in and infect you. You can all just sit around and pretend you know it all. Wow never seen a non smack message board this rude

http://primalfatso.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/spongebob-butthurt-gif_w480.jpg

[Snipe]

My Final Four of Kansas, Nova, Creighton and Wichita State just barely missed me winning 1 billion dollars.

#worstpoolever

[SM#24]

You could still be in the running for the $1b if you picked the opposite of every team I 've wanted to win.

[Masterofreality]

My Final Four of Kansas, Nova, Creighton and Wichita State just barely missed me winning 1 billion dollars.

#worstpoolever

Although I have been beaten up severely, all of my Final 4 is still alive!!!! It's ALIVE!!!!!!!!

[GIMMFD]

Although I have been beaten up severely, all of my Final 4 is still alive!!!! It's ALIVE!!!!!!!!

Diddo! Hopefully Michigan State/Louisville pans out for the finals... I wouldn't mind some extra booze money!

[GoMuskies]

My only prayer is for an Iowa State/Arizona final. So I'm screwed.

[nuts4xu]

Big Will by the way

Good poker players never let the table know if their bluff is legit or not. You probably don't play poker, do you?

You sir, have shown your cards and have exposed yourself for the troll you are.

Big Will? You suck as a Xavier fan if you thought this was correct.

[Muskie]

Not a troll. Just someone that likes talking and discussing sports politics news eft. I'm out of here. Don't need to prove anything to you. Sorry I waisted your time and mine. Big Will by the way

Since you have the same IP address as a known Dayton poster who has been banned, I've also banned this account. If you'd like to plead your case feel free to email me at xavierhoops.com@gmail.com

[Cheesehead]

Nice job, Muskie. I had my doubts from his first post. Good riddance, jackwad.

[xudash]

Since you have the same IP address as a known Dayton poster who has been banned, I've also banned this account. If you'd like to plead your case feel free to email me at xavierhoops.com@gmail.com

This is priceless.

[The_Mack_Pack]

I have a feeling UD is going to run away with this one.

[GoMuskies]

It's hard to believe Stanford made it this far.

[waggy]

It's hard to believe Stanford made it this far.

It really is.

[danaandvictory]

Stanford is a joke, but Dayton is crushing their zone and getting production from everyone on the roster.

It is frustrating that they get production and solid role play from their bench and freshmen and XU, well, you saw it.

[Xavgrad08]

Len Elmore just made a good point about Freshmen. You play them throughout the year and coach them through the growing pains. Let them make the occasional mistake. Then by the time the Tournament comes along the Freshman can contribute. Archie has done a good job with this Dayton team. Stanford looks very slow and ordinary.

[The_Mack_Pack]

Len Elmore just made a good point about Freshmen. You play them throughout the year and coach them through the growing pains. Let them make the occasional mistake. Then by the time the Tournament comes along the Freshman can contribute.

Playing the young guys through growing pains sure didn't work for Myles or Farr..

[The_Mack_Pack]

Stanford is just straight up getting outhustled. Archie's stock just keeps going higher and higher.

[Xavgrad08]

Playing the young guys through growing pains sure didn't work for Myles or Farr..


Agreed. Farr struggled defensively and Davis couldn't hit the broad sign of a barn.

[GuyFawkes38]

Well, I can't wait until UD gets killed by a real team, Florida.

[xavierj]

That's if Florida can play to its potential and beat UCLA tonight.

[GoMuskies]

20 minutes away from being 1984

[DC Muskie]

Is anyone surprised by this? Worst. Tournament. Ever. Continues.

[X-band '01]

It's a good thing UC lost to Hahvahd last week; I could only imagine DC's head exploding if UC made it to the Sweet 16 and we were treated to more Mick Cronin pressers.

[LadyMuskie]

We've turned it off. I can't watch them win. I'm fairly certain this is some sort of sign of the apocalypse and I should be spending these last few hours with the ones I love not watching a team I loathe.

[GoMuskies]

Is anyone surprised by this? Worst. Tournament. Ever. Continues.

The only thing that can save the Tournament at this point is having San Diego State win it. Even then you've got Steve Fischer, and I'm really not a huge fan.

[The_Mack_Pack]

I can think of a lot of things that could make this tournament worse. What else is going wrong besides X losing and UD making a run? OSU and UC lost and Butler didn't even make it. Things could be much worse.

[BandAid]

Besides the first round (or second, whatever you want to call them) - most of these games haven't even been competitive. These first two games have been stinkers so far

[Lloyd Braun]

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/digging-in-the-tournament-crates-xavier-kansas-state-the-sweet-16-dream-2010/

If you want some distraction this is a decent read...

[LadyMuskie]

I can think of a lot of things that could make this tournament worse. What else is going wrong besides X losing and UD making a run? OSU and UC lost and Butler didn't even make it. Things could be much worse.

OSU winning wouldn't bother me that much. I'm not a fan, but being angry at Thad Matta has lost its luster at this point. Butler has already gone to the promised land, so I've already dealt with that and I can handle it. The only thing worse would be a UC/UD matchup for the NC. That would be worse.

[Xavgrad08]

Stanford is only down 6. Let that sink in considering how awful they have been.

[The_Mack_Pack]

Stanford finally realized they have a major advantage on the block.

[BandAid]

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/digging-in-the-tournament-crates-xavier-kansas-state-the-sweet-16-dream-2010/

If you want some distraction this is a decent read...

That game was soooo much fun. Losing sucked, but they the game played out took a lot of the sting away (at least for me).

[The_Mack_Pack]

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/digging-in-the-tournament-crates-xavier-kansas-state-the-sweet-16-dream-2010/

If you want some distraction this is a decent read...

I miss Holloway.

[GoMuskies]

This game's over. Dayton is going to be 40 minutes from the Final Four.

[The_Mack_Pack]

I have a hard time seeing UD beating Florida (who I hope win tonight) but it would only make sense that Sean Miller's brother leads Dayton to a Final Four before we go.

[Xavgrad08]

So how do Stanford feel about Dawkins? This sweet 16 means that he won't get fired, but Dawkins has not had a good tenure so far.

[xsteve1]

This is over. I won't be surprised to see them in Final 4.

[The_Mack_Pack]

So how do Stanford feel about Dawkins? This sweet 16 means that he won't get fired, but Dawkins has not had a good tenure so far.

Sweet 16 plus a top 15 recruiting class means a contract extension for Dawkins. Stanford is not an easy place to coach but 1 tournament appearance in 6 seasons isn't very good.

[BandAid]

Wasn't Dawkins' first season the year after the Lopez brothers left? I imagine the cupboard was pretty bare when he first arrived.

[The_Mack_Pack]

Wasn't Dawkins' first season the year after the Lopez brothers left? I imagine the cupboard was pretty bare when he first arrived.

That's true but he had a full recruiting class come and go before making the tournament. Most power schools don't tolerate that unless it's a massive rebuild project.

[The_Mack_Pack]

Stanford getting shredded by Kavanaugh is all I need to know about this game..

[paulxu]

and Jordan Crawford hitting the most insane college 3 I’ve ever seen? It gets no better

Yes it was.

[Masterofreality]

What is funny is that the Cryers will get to spend another couple of days in the hell hole trash heap that is Memphis.....Then get their asses handed to them by Florida.

I hope that too many of them don't get bitten by river rats or murdered.

[mistabeecee41]

This is my nightmare. God forbid they somehow make it past Florida/UCLA. They'll finally have a rebuttal for "JIMMY CARTER".

[GoMuskies]

Contract extension for Dawkins?!? Damn, that's a low bar.

[GoMuskies]

Actually, the more I think about it, Dawkins should be fired for losing to Dayton in the Sweet 16. No one's done that in 30 years.

[paulxu]

Has the rioting started in the Ghetto?

[LadyMuskie]

I'm looking forward to hearing where Archie will be coaching next season, and I'm beginning to pray hard that it's Marquette just to upset the Flyer faithful.

[The_Mack_Pack]

Stanford could've scored at will or get fouled on the block every time down the court but they shot 18 threes and only hit 4 of them. Gotta question that.

[BandAid]

I'm looking forward to hearing where Archie will be coaching next season, and I'm beginning to pray hard that it's Marquette just to upset the Flyer faithful.

I'd go after him if I were Marquette. I know they're looking for someone who will stick around for a long time - and Archie doesn't exactly come accross as that sort of guy. But ultimately they got $$$$$, which was a driving factor in Sean's decision

[GuyFawkes38]

Well folks, if UD can beat Florida (the clear favorite, IMHO, to win the championship) then they more than deserve a Final Four.

[The_Mack_Pack]

Well folks, if UD can beat Florida (the clear favorite, IMHO, to win the championship) then they more than deserve a Final Four.

Can't argue with that, unfortunately.

[The_Mack_Pack]

I'd go after him if I were Marquette. I know they're looking for someone who will stick around for a long time - and Archie doesn't exactly come accross as that sort of guy. But ultimately they got $$$$$, which was a driving factor in Sean's decision

I'm sure the weather and prestige of the Arizona program had something to do with that too.

[Xavier]

I wouldn't be shocked at UCLA beating Florida...only because they beat AZ just a couple weeks ago. Man that would suck. First butler then Dayton?

[GoMuskies]

What is funny is that the Cryers will get to spend another couple of days in the hell hole trash heap that is Memphis.....Then get their asses handed to them by Florida.

I hope that too many of them don't get bitten by river rats or murdered.

I think Memphis is great if you stay in the right spots. Really a fun town to visit. Cannot imagine living there, though!

[PMI]

This is my hell. I need to go reevaluate what I have done to deserve this. After I finish puking.

[X Factor]

This run by UD has been a mirage. OSU and Syracuse came into the tourney playing bad. Stanford beat a Kansas team without Embid.

Stanford was horrible. Dayton made shots.

Once Archie leaves Dayton will fall back to mediocrity. Heck, UD hasn't finished higher than 6th in the A 10 under Miller. He hasn't set the world on fire in the A10. They've gotten extremely fortunate these past 3 games.

[LadyMuskie]

This run by UD has been a mirage. OSU and Syracuse came into the tourney playing bad. Stanford beat a Kansas team without Embid.

Stanford was horrible. Dayton made shots.

Once Archie leaves Dayton will fall back to mediocrity. Heck, UD hasn't finished higher than 6th in the A 10 under Miller. He hasn't set the world on fire in the A10. They've gotten extremely fortunate these past 3 games.

This all may be true, but a Final Four appearance is a Final Four appearance. If we got there, we wouldn't be nitpicking over how it happened. It's just vomit-inducing that it's Dayton.

[SlimKibbles]

This run by UD has been a mirage. OSU and Syracuse came into the tourney playing bad. Stanford beat a Kansas team without Embid.

Stanford was horrible. Dayton made shots.

Once Archie leaves Dayton will fall back to mediocrity. Heck, UD hasn't finished higher than 6th in the A 10 under Miller. He hasn't set the world on fire in the A10. They've gotten extremely fortunate these past 3 games.

Mirage or not, the fact is they're taking care of business. It sucks to watch unfold but whatever. I guess they were due.

[waggy]

They got a good draw, but they are also playing well.

[The_Mack_Pack]

Heck, UD hasn't finished higher than 6th in the A 10 under Miller. He hasn't set the world on fire in the A10. They've gotten extremely fortunate these past 3 games.

Yeah, this is kind of a hot streak run with a good draw. I'd still rather be us right now.

[HuskyMuskie]

Playing very well. Every time I have seen them play I have been impressed. You just have to tip the cap to them...survive and advance is the motto, right? You just have to hope that somewhere our boys are huddled around each other wearing their X gear watching it all unfold. Hopefully it lights a fire.

[Juice]

If God knew how horrible UD fans are, he would never reward them with this. This is bullshit.

[DC Muskie]

You still have to win games. These guys are doing it. I want to thank Kansas for sucking ass.

[Masterofreality]

I think Memphis is great if you stay in the right spots. Really a fun town to visit. Cannot imagine living there, though!

Been there plenty on business.

It sucks.

[Masterofreality]

Please Florida....win.


Please San Diego State...win.

Salvage this freaking Tournament.

[GoMuskies]

Been there plenty on business.

It sucks.

Tunica doesn't

[GoMuskies]

Let's go Aztecs!!!!

[Xavier]

I like Sean, I want AZ.

[HuskyMuskie]

I like Sean, I want AZ.

I don't get this. The girl that you used to date leaves you for a more attractive, more wealthy man, and you want to see her do well? Even after she calls you out for being a lowly Buick compared to a Lexus? Please. I root for Xavier in good times and bad. Sean Miller WAS a Xavier coach that brought good times. I appreciate and respect that. But he is now an ex-girlfriend. At what point do we stop holding his jock because he was a Xavier coach long ago?

[xsteve1]

I want to see Sean in Memphis on Saturday in Dayton gear. That would be a sight to see for a guy who hated Dayton while he was here.

[The_Mack_Pack]

I want to see Sean in Memphis on Saturday in Dayton gear. That would be a sight to see for a guy who hated Dayton while he was here.

He can cheer on his brother all he wants but if he puts on Dayton gear...

[Masterofreality]

Tunica doesn't

I'll agree with this. #MyHeadsInMississippi

[Masterofreality]

Would love to see Xavier (Thames) knock off the Desert Raccoon.a

[xsteve1]

That Hollis-Jefferson kid is really good.

[GoMuskies]

Marv Albert is terrible now.

[Xavier]

I don't get this. The girl that you used to date leaves you for a more attractive, more wealthy man, and you want to see her do well? Even after she calls you out for being a lowly Buick compared to a Lexus? Please. I root for Xavier in good times and bad. Sean Miller WAS a Xavier coach that brought good times. I appreciate and respect that. But he is now an ex-girlfriend. At what point do we stop holding his jock because he was a Xavier coach long ago?

Uh, I like his coaching style. Think he is a top 10 coach. Respect him and am happy the direction he put Xavier on. Should Butler fans hate brad Stevens?

[xsteve1]

Arizona won't lose this. Aztecs just can't keep making these tough shots.