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Mecklenburg
03-18-2014, 06:10 PM
I posted this yesterday on your scout.com board but I guess it doesn't get much action:

NC State breakdown - from a State fan

What's up Xavier people, here is what to look for in the game tomorrow night. And whoever wins I think can beat St. Louis but probably won't get past Louisville. Tough draw for us in the brackets. So here is what's up with the Wolfpack, from an alum who watched all but one game this year:

TJ Warren - He is easily our best player and scorer. ACC Player of the Years this season. He scored 41+ points in the final 2 games of the regular season. He's basically the only reason a team that lost 4/5 starters from last year was able to go 9-9 in the conference this year. He's not a great outside shooter, but is a marksman with mid-range jumpers and floaters, and is very tactful as far as finding openings, and is a great offensive rebounder. He's not a great defender, and often uses his long arms to try and strip balls and steal passes (top-5 in ACC in steals) but doesn't have great lateral movement with his feet. But make no mistake, he is our #1 stunna. Win or lose, he will score 20-30 points or more. In NC State's 34 games this season, Warren only failed to score 20+ points in 4 of them. The easy gameplan to beat NC State is to shut down Warren, but trust me, it's easier said than done. I won't spend nearly as much time talking about other players because our team does as well as Warren does, and the reason we even got into the field over teams like SMU and Green Bay is probably the allure of having TJ Buckets play on a national stage. He is our starting small forward, but could play some PF as well. He's 6'8" and when you see him hit his first floater or contest mid-range shot you'll think he got lucky, but that's what he does

Point Guards - Tyler Lewis is our starter. Little white guy, sophomore. Streaky shooter, but great distributor. Sees the floor well. Actually played AAU ball with Warren. One of the better Assist:Turnover ratios in the ACC, but a defensive liability. But he runs the offense well. He'll have trouble staying with your slashing 1 guards, but will do a good job facilitating the offense

Anthony "Cat" Barber is our backup PG. Quick as a cat, but only a freshman. Broke a lot of Iverson's high school scoring records in Virginia, but still a little rough around the edges. Very good on-ball defender though. He drew lots of legit charges against solid ACC point guards like Ennis of Syracuse and Paige of UNC. And not just flops, but staying close enough with quick feet where they extended their arms to try and shake him off. Decent mid-range shooter, but he'll probably draw an offensive foul at some point in the game and get a layup. Good passer as well, but not a huge offensive threat

Shooting Guards - Ralston Turner is the starting 2 guard. Best, and arguably only 3-point threat on the team. He's our 2nd leading scorer but only averages 10ppg as Warren is obviously our go-to guy. Turner is a transfer from LSU and is shooting 37% from behind the arc this season, same percentage as his last year at LSU. Very streaky but lots of outside threats are. If Turner has a big game, a Wolfpack win is probable. If Turner is off, a Xavier win looks likely. But he's our best chance at a solid second scoring option. Also a pretty good wing defender.

Desmond Lee is our backup SG. Solid FT shooter, but loves to drive the ball and force up contested shots, which often get blocked or miss. Not really someone to worry about overall, but has the ability to knock down the open shot. Energy player.

Small Forwards - Warren is the guy here, but Coach Gottfried will mix up some lineups and move Turner to the 3, or play a couple PFs at the SF spot. But Warren is basically the 3 on this team

Power Forwards - Kyle Washington is our starting PF. He's a freshman, but is a decent scoring option. Left handed guy who can hit the short-mid range jumper, as well as the jump hook. Falls in love with the mid-range jumper too much sometimes, but if he's hitting it he'll continue to shoot it. Arguably our best low-post scorer, but just a youngster. Promising future, but not there yet.

Lenard Freeman - Not as good of an offensive threat as Washington, but a high energy guy who is a pretty good defender and will crash the boards and make some contested put-back shots. Definitely a "hustle player" that Gottfried will put in the game if another guy isn't giving it his all. 2nd leading rebounder on the team (after Warren), but only averages 4ppg

Centers - Jordan Vandenberg - goofy white guy, but he's 7'1". He's our only senior that gets any minutes (and he starts) but will make some bad plays. Helps out on rotation at the top of the key and gets beat when the ball gets fed down low by not being in position. But is a decent passer and might get a dunk or 3 when Warren is double or triple teamed and he gets an open look. The guy basically sucked his first 3 years, but has come into his own a little as a senior

Beejay Anya. 7'9" wingspan (one of the largest ever recorded) on a 6'9" freshman. But he weighs 300 and something pounds and doesn't have his conditioning down that well yet. Only a freshman but will get a good 10 minutes in the game. Can block shots and box out, due to his size, and is a high energy guy. But nobody who is going to scare opposing teams

And those 9 players are who you will see tomorrow night, unless either NC State or Xavier is up by 30 points late and they bring in the scrubs. Warren is THE guy, and we rely on others to play their roles. The team goes as far as Warren carries us, although he's had 30+ point games that we lost. Granted, it was often to teams like Duke and UNC. But that's what to look for

We are not a great defensive team, but do pretty well defending the 3. But from what I hear, Xavier relies a lot on slashing and driving guards, which could be an issue for us if Vandenberg ("Vandy" or "TBDV") or Anya aren't blocking shots.

Ultimately I see this game being won by single digits by the team that makes the most plays in the last 2-3 minutes of the game. I'd be pretty surprised if either team won by more than 6-8 points.

Anyway, that's my synopsis for you guys from a State fan. And if you beat us, I hope you manage to upset Louisville even though I have them going far in my bracket.

XUFan09
03-18-2014, 06:14 PM
No one reads the free Scout board, only the premium one. Thanks for the info!

xu82
03-18-2014, 06:31 PM
Thanks. Here's my report on Xavier: We can be pretty darn good (wins over UC and Creighton). We can also be terrible (shudder...Bahamas and Seton Hall).
I have no idea which team will show up. I hope it's the "good Xavier". If several of them would click at the same time it could be special.

XMuskieFTW
03-18-2014, 07:34 PM
Dee Davis is the real wild card. Expect him to put up 11 points 6 assists 1 turnovers and a couple steals orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 1 point 2 assists 5 turnovers 4 fouls...I really think how Dee plays dictates how the team plays in general. He can be an extremely good lock down defender on the outside as long as the guard isn't too big.

waggy
03-18-2014, 07:37 PM
Warren seems like a real good kid. Wish he was in another bracket, cause obviously I hope we send him home disappointed.

xu82
03-18-2014, 07:39 PM
Let's hope it's the Dee who won high school championships in Indiana and was named MVP. We need Clutch Dee!

Mecklenburg
03-18-2014, 11:54 PM
Guys (and gals), I just wanted to say thanks for having me on your board and discussing the game in a classy way. We had the better showing tonight, but in all honesty I think we got the benefit of some calls. Not the Semaj charge in the 1st half, but with some of our blocked shots where there was a lot of contact. And you guys just missed some open shots that could've drastically changed the dynamic of the game. You played tough, especially Stainbrook, but we came away with the W. I don't expect or won't be mad if you're not friendly just an hour after a loss, but you guys were classy and have a lot more in common with our fanbase than you might realize. Reading through the game thread reminded me of a dozen game threads on our own websites during the season.

The difference was Warren avoiding early foul trouble and Lewis being a good distributor, but you guys shouldn't be too pessimistic about the future, in my opinion. You definitely have lots of talent, it just wasn't enough tonight, but March Madness isn't a bunch of Best-of-7 series, it's one-and-done, and whoever plays better in one particular game can advance.

I still expect us to get trounced by Louisville (if we can even get past St. Louis), but once the dust settles, you should be proud of your season, even if it ended earlier than expected. I didn't even think we'd make the tourney, so we're playing with house money as far as I'm concerned. But you all were fair and rational with your sports talk to me, and I appreciate that. Best of luck moving forward, I know the Musketeers will make some noise in seasons to come.

drudy23
03-18-2014, 11:55 PM
we don't wanna talk about it

waggy
03-18-2014, 11:56 PM
Go win it all Mecklenburg. Warren is a good guy.

BandAid
03-18-2014, 11:59 PM
Good game to you guys. Wish we could've given you a better showing. It'd be fun to get a series going with you.

PACKWOLF
03-19-2014, 12:09 AM
Good game guys. Honestly I felt the game was close until about 3 minutes to go. Y'all sure have a stud down low. I wouldn't be down on your talent, we have 6 top 100 recruits (3 mcdonalds all americans) on the team, all sophomore and freshmen, that, just over the past 2 months, are starting to put it together. It was a good game and I enjoyed reading your message boards. Good luck next year, hope to see y'all in the tourney again.

And not to be down on the kid because he is a baller, but I sure hope the guard does not go pro this year...

ncWOLFsu
03-19-2014, 12:09 AM
Good game. Best of luck to Xavier next season. Thanks for being classy. If anyone feels up to discussing it, I'd be curious to hear what some of you guys think about facing Warren vs facing McDermott?

drudy23
03-19-2014, 12:10 AM
Good game. Best of luck to Xavier next season. Thanks for being classy. If anyone feels up to discussing it, I'd be curious to hear what some of you guys think about facing Warren vs facing McDermott?

McDermott > Warren

But Warren is very good.

waggy
03-19-2014, 12:11 AM
Warren will be a better pro though.

The_Mack_Pack
03-19-2014, 12:11 AM
Warren is a terrific player but McDermott is unbelievable. He's the definition of unstoppable.

LadyMuskie
03-19-2014, 12:12 AM
I agree. Warren is very good. But McDermott is even better.

And you should see McDermott walk on water! He's also really wonderful at that too. :wink:

OTRMUSKIE
03-19-2014, 12:12 AM
Good game NC State. Will be rooting for you guys the rest of the way. Really hope you beat St Louis and think you will.

PACKWOLF
03-19-2014, 12:15 AM
McDermott > Warren

But Warren is very good.

Honestly, Warren didn't play well tonight. The first half was as bad as he has played all year. I do think McDermott is a better college player, though. Then again, he is a couple years older. He doesn't defend as well as TJ though.

Strange Brew
03-19-2014, 12:18 AM
Good game guys. Honestly I felt the game was close until about 3 minutes to go. Y'all sure have a stud down low. I wouldn't be down on your talent, we have 6 top 100 recruits (3 mcdonalds all americans) on the team, all sophomore and freshmen, that, just over the past 2 months, are starting to put it together. It was a good game and I enjoyed reading your message boards. Good luck next year, hope to see y'all in the tourney again.

And not to be down on the kid because he is a baller, but I sure hope the guard does not go pro this year...

Hey Packwolf, good game tonight. Good luck the rest of the way and please, whenever you have the chance, crush the Dukies!

BandAid
03-19-2014, 12:19 AM
Honestly, Warren didn't play well tonight. The first half was as bad as he has played all year. I do think McDermott is a better college player, though. Then again, he is a couple years older. He doesn't defend as well as TJ though.

That is undoubtedly true. Martin is incredibly important to our team offensively, and he was completely taken out by the combination of guarding Warren and having Warren guard him.

LadyMuskie
03-19-2014, 12:47 AM
The Wolf Pack fans were refreshing these last few days. Good luck to you the rest of the way. And good luck in the ACC. I love watching Duke lose, so anything you can do to make that happen would be aces!

XfansinKy
03-19-2014, 01:14 AM
we don't wanna talk about it

Oh man thanks drudy. For some reason your post made me laugh hard n now maybe even get some rest.

nkymuskie
03-19-2014, 11:14 AM
I've actually enjoyed reading through this thread and not dealing with PITA trolls from an opposing fan base. Warren can really play, but McDermott is just so smooth from anywhere on the floor. His ability to score from anywhere is unmatched. Warren was really impressive making a lot of really contested and awkward shots. Some of those you just throw your hands up as a defender and realize there is nothing more that you could do.

NC State is hot right now. I think you guys will give SLU fits and should beat them. Best of luck the rest of the way

chico
03-19-2014, 11:21 AM
Thanks for coming over to the board. Always had a soft spot for NC State going back to when I was a kid watching David Thompson and Tom Burleson. Hope you guys beat up on SLU and shock Louisville.

XUGRAD80
03-19-2014, 12:56 PM
Thanks for coming over to the board. Always had a soft spot for NC State going back to when I was a kid watching David Thompson and Tom Burleson. Hope you guys beat up on SLU and shock Louisville.

And Monte Towe as well. Loved it when they beat UCLA. The skywalker was unbelievable. I won a lot of money from my fellow HS fans with that win.
Good luck the rest of the way...no reason you can't go far. Would love to see a series between the two schools in the future.