NC State v Xavier (Tuesday March 18, 2014) NCAA Game Thread

[paulxu]

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NC State Wolfpack (21-13, 9-9) v. Xavier University Musketeers (21-12, 10-8)
Tuesday March 18, 2014 at 9:00 p.m. ET
UD Arena (13,435), Dayton, OH

Live Chat (http://www.chatzy.com/32573582761803)

Notes (http://www.goxavier.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/031614aab.html)

Television: truTV with Brian Anderson (play-by-play), Dan Bonner (analysis) and Kristine Leahy (sidelines)

Radio: 700 WLW-AM, play-by-play from Joe Sunderman (`79). Analysis by Byron Larkin (`88). Westwood One Sports - National Radio will also provide coverage with John Tautges and Kyle Macy.

[paulxu]

Thank you Muskies!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7u4j3r5nMA&feature=player_detailpage

[xu82]

Awesome! Now I'm all pumped up and it's time for bed....

[The_Mack_Pack]

I think this is a good matchup for Reynolds. I hope he stays out of foul trouble and brings his rebounding game. NC State is supposedly not that good of a defense rebounding team but Warren is an amazing offensive rebounder. Hopefully the Staintrain can play some valuable minutes.

[GIMMFD]

Just have to limit Warren, he's an animal, it depends which NC State team shows up though, they seem very inconsistent.

[xu82]

Just have to limit Warren, he's an animal, it depends which NC State team shows up though, they seem very inconsistent.

We must also look in the mirror.

[GIMMFD]

We must also look in the mirror.

Oh yeah, I know that, we are inconsistent too. I'm just hoping Dee plays in his element, and we don't look like the team against Seton Hall. This is a good match up for us, I think we can win this one.

[BMoreX]

“I’ve watched them a few times, and they’re a very talented group,” Gottfried said. “Christon is one of the better players in the country. It’s going to be a tough game. It will be a home-game atmosphere for them, but we’ve played a lot on the road this year, so, so be it.”

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/03/16/3708966/nc-state-earned-way-into-ncaa.html#storylink=cpy

Oh Mark, you're in for a surprise.

[Snipe]

They look like an up and coming young team too. Regardless of the outcome we should look into a home and home with them.

[XUFan09]

They look like an up and coming young team too. Regardless of the outcome we should look into a home and home with them.

I was actually thinking that too, but it probably wouldn't be too appetizing to whoever loses.

[xumuskies08]

A few tidbits from the NC State board.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=178&f=2515&t=12743637

"I watched them a couple times earlier in the season & they lost both times.
Nothing outstanding that I can recall about them.
Sean Miller made them - w/o him they have fallen."

"It's also pretty much a home game for them."

"They have several guys who can hit the three. They're not overpowering inside."

[XUFan09]

Lol wrong on all three counts. My favorite is the claim that Xavier has a number of shooters but not much of an inside presence. Um, what?

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[XUFan09]

Also, the logic of judging a team only by when they lost...when they won far more games. Brilliant lol.

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[BMoreX]

Lol wrong on all three counts. My favorite is the claim that Xavier has a number of shooters but not much of an inside presence. Um, what?

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I mean, it's tough to give 0 for 3, but wow did they do it.

[Snipe]

"Matt pulled me out in the hallway and said, 'Coach, play me as if I'm not injured if you feel like I can get up and down the floor.' He goes, 'I'd tear my ACL for this team.'

Stain just went All In

[Caveat]

Stain just went All In

His quote is awesome.

[STL_XUfan]

"Matt pulled me out in the hallway and said, 'Coach, play me as if I'm not injured if you feel like I can get up and down the floor.' He goes, 'I'd tear my ACL for this team.


Stain just went All In

And this is why coaches need to protect athletes from themselves. I hope coach Mack is smart enough to make sure Stain is not put in a position to further injure himself.

[Caveat]

And this is why coaches need to protect athletes from themselves. I hope coach Mack is smart enough to make sure Stain is not put in a position to further injure himself.

The person who should really be inspired by this quote is Jalen Reynolds. If he can continue to give good, productive minutes and keep himself in good defensive position, it will give the coaching staff more flexibility with how to best use Stainbrook.

Stainbrook is "all in" -- but Jalen can help shoulder the weight for him.

[paulxu]

If you watch that video, what comes through the loudest of all the impressions is the absolute "no quit" of every Xavier player.
They never give up. They leave everything on the floor...just look at Burrell's last game moment.

That's what Stainbrook is doing. What Muskies before have done. Leaving everything on the floor.

Anyone. Anywhere. Anytime.

[XUFan09]

Thank you Muskies!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7u4j3r5nMA&feature=player_detailpage

*tear*

[mistabeecee41]

I know Warren's NBA position would technically be a "3/4" - but who will he typically guard? Hoping he normally guards the 4 - Zeke has been doing a good job of drawing fouls. We're not going to flat out stop this guy - our best defense might be hoping he picks up an early foul or two.

[ncWOLFsu]

Pack fan here. Grats to you guys on making the field. I know we were all thrilled to make it ourselves. I think it's interesting that Warren and Christon were roommates at Brewster, I wonder how that'll play out.

You definitely don't have to worry about us beating you by going 15/25 from 3P range, however we have done a decent job of finding other ways to beat the zone. Syracuse has a tough zone and we did pretty well against that. I'll be interested to see how you guys defend Warren, I figure that facing McDermott 3 times this year probably helps with preparation. I think they're both elite scorers, but still have fairly different games. With Warren it's all motor. He does most of his scoring without a set play being run for him.

^Regarding who Warren typically guards, he usually takes the opposing 3. He is actually a very underrated defender. He was 4th in the ACC in steals, and holds his man below his average. CJ Fair was first team All-ACC for Syracuse and Warren held him to 3-16 from the field for 9 points on Saturday. And one of those FGs was a breakaway dunk off a turnover. In the first game we played them, Warren held Fair to 5-16 shooting for 11 points.

I'd say good luck, but you'd know I don't mean it. But hopefully nobody gets injured and then if you do (unfortunately) win, good luck in all the rest of your games.

Oh, and did I read correctly that it may not be an overwhelmingly home-game atmosphere for Xavier in Dayton? Maybe the Dayton fans will come out and cheer on Archie's alma mater, I guess.

[xumuskies08]

Pack fan here. Grats to you guys on making the field. I know we were all thrilled to make it ourselves. I think it's interesting that Warren and Christon were roommates at Brewster, I wonder how that'll play out.

You definitely don't have to worry about us beating you by going 15/25 from 3P range, however we have done a decent job of finding other ways to beat the zone. Syracuse has a tough zone and we did pretty well against that. I'll be interested to see how you guys defend Warren, I figure that facing McDermott 3 times this year probably helps with preparation. I think they're both elite scorers, but still have fairly different games. With Warren it's all motor. He does most of his scoring without a set play being run for him.

^Regarding who Warren typically guards, he usually takes the opposing 3. He is actually a very underrated defender. He was 4th in the ACC in steals, and holds his man below his average. CJ Fair was first team All-ACC for Syracuse and Warren held him to 3-16 from the field for 9 points on Saturday. And one of those FGs was a breakaway dunk off a turnover. In the first game we played them, Warren held Fair to 5-16 shooting for 11 points.

I'd say good luck, but you'd know I don't mean it. But hopefully nobody gets injured and then if you do (unfortunately) win, good luck in all the rest of your games.

Oh, and did I read correctly that it may not be an overwhelmingly home-game atmosphere for Xavier in Dayton? Maybe the Dayton fans will come out and cheer on Archie's alma mater, I guess.

Welcome...

A note about UD fans for tomorrow night. It's not so much that they will be cheering for NC State, but that they will be cheering against Xavier. Let me put it this way...If Hitler came back to life and put together a Nazi basketball team and that team happened to face Xavier in a play-in game at UD Arena, Flyer fans would still root against Xavier.

[casualfan]

I know Warren's NBA position would technically be a "3/4" - but who will he typically guard? Hoping he normally guards the 4 - Zeke has been doing a good job of drawing fouls. We're not going to flat out stop this guy - our best defense might be hoping he picks up an early foul or two.

Warren plays the three.

[ncWOLFsu]

Welcome...

A note about UD fans for tomorrow night. It's not so much that they will be cheering for NC State, but that they will be cheering against Xavier. Let me put it this way...If Hitler came back to life and put together a Nazi basketball team and that team happened to face Xavier in a play-in game at UD Arena, Flyer fans would still root against Xavier.

Hahaha okay that's a good frame of reference. Sounds kind of like how us Pack fans feel about the Tarheels.

[Chalmers0]

Hahaha okay that's a good frame of reference. Sounds kind of like how us Pack fans feel about the Tarheels.

I would actually equate it to something I witnessed a few years back when Xavier played Notre Dame in Greensboro. UNC fans bought all session tickets simply so they could go root for Lehigh against Duke in the night session. It actually made for a pretty great environment.

[Milhouse]

To be fair it wasn't just UNC fans it was ALL fans. Duke is one of the most hated schools in CBB but of course you don't see a 15 upset a 2 very often. With nothing invested everyone there but Duke fans will root for the underdog.

[Chalmers0]

To be fair it wasn't just UNC fans it was ALL fans. Duke is one of the most hated schools in CBB but of course you don't see a 15 upset a 2 very often. With nothing invested everyone there but Duke fans will root for the underdog.

Oh absolutely, only reason I say UNC specifically is because, at least from what I recall, at least 30% (maybe more) of the building was wearing baby blue for a session with Duke/Lehigh and X/ND. Just illustrating that not only Dayton fans buy tickets simply to root against a rival, not that that makes it reasonable.

[BandAid]

Lots of pundits picking NC St to not only win this one but also the game against SLU. I guess it's time to start sneaking!

[Filthy Conservative]

Welcome...

A note about UD fans for tomorrow night. It's not so much that they will be cheering for NC State, but that they will be cheering against Xavier. Let me put it this way...If Hitler came back to life and put together a Nazi basketball team and that team happened to face Xavier in a play-in game at UD Arena, Flyer fans would still root against Xavier.

Back to life? Hitler runs UD Pride from his lair in Argentina.

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[The_Mack_Pack]

State fans seem pretty confident that Warren is better than McDermott.. I guess we'll find out.

[GoMuskies]

I hate Colin Cowherd, but even he throws in a gem here and there:

"comparing SMU and NC State is like arguing over which is the best Pauly Shore movie...at the end of the day they are all terrible and no one really cares."

[The_Mack_Pack]

I think Cowherd is hilarious. He's a big homer for big name teams and players though.

[BandAid]

State fans seem pretty confident that Warren is better than McDermott.. I guess we'll find out.

I don't consider them to be that comparable. Douggie is a much better shooter. Warrren is better in the paint. They both move extremely well without the ball. Warren is a better defender. We would switch or go over screens for Doug and Creighton. I imagine we will hedge or go under for Warren and NC State.

Doug is national POY. It's hard to be better than him, but Warren will challenge us in ways we haven't seen this year.

[Xavier]

The best part of the BE this year was the different teams we played. St. Johns was Athletic, Defensive and rebound type team. And we wont see a better offensive team than Creighton. Warren is no McDermott.

[sirthought]

I'm guessing someone mentioned this elsewhere, but Cincinnati beat NC State this year 68-57 and held Warren to 13 points.
It was a typical low-scoring UC game, but things were neck and neck until UC really turned on the heavy pressure.

Now that was much earlier in the season, but I think if we can turn up our defense, we can keep things in check. In that game it was Turner, an LSU transfer, who got four fouls and that hurt them when he was on the bench.

[sirthought]

Warren fouled out at least four times this season. There were six games when he had four fouls.

[xsteve1]

The good news for us watching at home is that they move the cameras down for NCAA games so its not like you're watching from the ceiling.

[coasterville95]

Shannon Russel has a series of tweets related to dayton crier fans with NO lives who felt the need to go to ud sewage plant tonight for Xaiver's open practice to give them hell.

Shannon said it started with Go Dayton Flyer chants - to Go Wolfpack - to stuff she said was too assinine to print.

I'm confused - I thought Dayton prided themselves on having the Universe's Classiest Fans!


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Not going to tell you what else they're saying. Asinine.
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Now it's "Let's go Wolfpack."
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Dayton fans chanting "Let's go Flyers " at #Xavier . pic.twitter.com/1BJSCnpyqF

[THRILLHOUSE]

Shannon Russel has a series of tweets related to dayton crier fans with NO lives who felt the need to go to ud sewage plant tonight for Xaiver's open practice to give them hell.

Shannon said it started with Go Dayton Flyer chants - to Go Wolfpack - to stuff she said was too assinine to print.

I'm confused - I thought Dayton prided themselves on having the Universe's Classiest Fans!


Shannon Russell ‏@slrussell 2h
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Now it's "Let's go Wolfpack."
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Dayton fans chanting "Let's go Flyers " at #Xavier . pic.twitter.com/1BJSCnpyqF

Shannon also tweeted this:

"Justin Martin just said something to one the hecklers and one said sorry. And then they started chanting again."

[ncWOLFsu]

Warren fouled out at least four times this season. There were six games when he had four fouls.

That's true, but it also happens to be the handiwork of a particular official, Jamie Luckie. If you were to look game by game, Warren averaged a little over 4 fouls in each of the games Luckie reffed, compared to around 2.5 in all the other games. We typically get a raw deal when it comes to foul calls in league play, but it ends up getting called pretty even once we escape the ACC and get into NCAA tourney play. It's quite refreshing.

[xu82]

That's true, but it also happens to be the handiwork of a particular official, Jamie Luckie. If you were to look game by game, Warren averaged a little over 4 fouls in each of the games Luckie reffed, compared to around 2.5 in all the other games. We typically get a raw deal when it comes to foul calls in league play, but it ends up getting called pretty even once we escape the ACC and get into NCAA tourney play. It's quite refreshing.

Interesting. Funny how that stuff works. It's the most maddening part of basketball and the reason my son (who played at a pretty high level) calls it "a flawed sport". No other sport, in my opinion, depends so much on the refs, their prejudices and emotions (more so certainly at the high school level, but it's shaky up to the NBA - ref's are not the show).

[sirthought]

That's true, but it also happens to be the handiwork of a particular official, Jamie Luckie. If you were to look game by game, Warren averaged a little over 4 fouls in each of the games Luckie reffed, compared to around 2.5 in all the other games. We typically get a raw deal when it comes to foul calls in league play, but it ends up getting called pretty even once we escape the ACC and get into NCAA tourney play. It's quite refreshing.

Well, I didn't look at the official crew for each game, but I do recall some of those games being early in the season, so it couldn't all be from the conference play. Still, having 10 games with 4 or more fouls tells me that XU should be trying to trick him into fouling.

[muskiefan82]

1405

Apparently, channel 5 already has X in Florida. Daytona beach works for me.

[Masterofreality]

I'm hoping Wally Rutecki is not a ref in this game. That guy is an absolute hack.

Worst ref in the Big East. He's Xavier's Jamie Luckie

[Smails]

Shannon also tweeted this:

"Justin Martin just said something to one the hecklers and one said sorry. And then they started chanting again."

So your team is playing their first meaningful game in god knows how long and your reaction is to go Xavier's PRACTICE and heckle them? I'm sorry, but Dayton fans deserve 100% of the shit they get on this and every other board. Plain and simple, they epitomize the loser mentality on every possible level.

[STL_XUfan]

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How can I possibly be expected to handle work on a day like this?

[StJohnsFan]

Come on Xavier! Win it for the Big East!

[muskiefan82]

Someone clearly needs to have a sign with an X on it and the statement "Jimmy Carter" or something similar to place over the UD logo at center court after the win.

[xumuskies08]

Someone clearly needs to have a sign with an X on it and the statement "Jimmy Carter" or something similar to place over the UD logo at center court after the win.

UD's court isn't there. The generic NCAA court is.

[muskiefan82]

Makes no difference.

[xumuskies08]

Two actual game-related thoughts I have this afternoon...

I really hope the good Dee Davis shows up tonight. He'll be needed. A couple rainbow threes and a low turnover game from him would make me very happy.

Also, is tonight the night Myles and/or Farr break out of their slumps and contribute something? X can't go 6 deep like they have been recently.

[THRILLHOUSE]

I really hope the good Dee Davis shows up tonight. He'll be needed. A couple rainbow threes and a low turnover game from him would make me very happy.


Same here. Usually X goes as Dee goes. Hoping for good defense and low TO's from Dee tonight.

[paulxu]

It's just about time to open the bottle of 46 I was saving for our return to the NCAA's.

[SkyWalker]

Same here. Usually X goes as Dee goes. Hoping for good defense and low TO's from Dee tonight.

I agree. Dee Davis determines if we win or lose tonight.

[THRILLHOUSE]

I agree. Dee Davis determines if we win or lose tonight.

Which is a f-cking terrifying thought. Cmon Good Dee, please show up.

[THRILLHOUSE]

Stainbrook is starting tonight.

[coasterville95]

Refs for the #Xavier/NC State game: Joseph DeRosa, Doug Sirmons, Gene Steratore.

Per Shannon Russel.

[XU3232]

Two actual game-related thoughts I have this afternoon...

I really hope the good Dee Davis shows up tonight. He'll be needed. A couple rainbow threes and a low turnover game from him would make me very happy.

Also, is tonight the night Myles and/or Farr break out of their slumps and contribute something? X can't go 6 deep like they have been recently.

Lord knows we are due to have at least one of these guys have a breakout game.

[coasterville95]

Watching game 1 on TV. The commentators just noted there are a LOT of UD shirts in the crowd, and noted XU and UD HATE each other, and that yes the UD fans are coming to heckle Xavier.

So yes, it's official, UD fans are that sad and pathetic. Nothing screams program envy when you stoop to that level.

[Blue Blobs Bro]

Any live streams ? Can't find it on time warner or anything for some
Reason

[coasterville95]

I've got Time Warner in Cincinnati - its on 1220 in glorious HD

Arent all games on March Madness on Demand?>

[SM#24]

You don't get truTV (used to be Court TV) ?
Anyway you should be able to get a stream off CBS Sports or NCAA sites.

[Blue Blobs Bro]

Thank god I found it on 1220, it's listed on 74 online so I have no idea what that's about?

[THRILLHOUSE]

If anyone else has issues finding TruTV, all games can be found here: http://www.ncaa.com/march-madness-live

[X-band '01]

For the past 4 years, TruTV has aired the First Four games along with Thursday, Friday and Sunday night games.

March Madness On Demand does allow for free streaming.

[whiteyxu]

First Row worked for the first game. It's never a sure thing, but here's the link:

http://gofirstrowus.eu/sport/basketball.html

[Mecklenburg]

No need for a firstrow stream for any of the NCAA games

You can watch them all free, and legally, at NCAA.com from your computer

Or if you have a tablet or smartphone, search for the March Madness app in the Android Google Play Store or Apple App store. Also free.

And better picture quality than your average firstrow stream

--Edit--

Actually, it appears that if you don't login with your cable/satellite provider login info, you have limited viewing time

[LadyMuskie]

All of these helpful, rational, intelligent Wolf Pack posters are going to spoil us and make it hard to go back to the likes of floorsweeper and burrcatts.

[xu82]

All of these helpful, rational, intelligent Wolf Pack posters are going to spoil us and make it hard to go back to the likes of floorsweeper and burrcatts.

Good point! I don't have to remember how to use the ignore function.

[Jesuit4Life]

Prayers go out to Coach McCaffery and his son.

Let's Go X

[whiteyxu]

The NCAA feed only works if your cable/satellite package has TruTV as a part of your subscription. For those of you who are cheap like me and ditched cable TV, you will need to find another way. This link is currently working.

http://gofirstrowus.eu/watch/247878/3/watch-12-north-carolina-state-vs-12-xavier.html

[XMuskieFTW]

Two fouls on Warren...thank you very much.

[xsteve1]

2 fouls on TJ Warren, imagine 23% 3 point shooter looking like a 50% shooter against X.

[waggy]

Matt playing well.

[oddblob]

for the love of god dee

[Xville]

Dee better get his head completely out of his ass...we need him tonight

[waggy]

How many TO's? I think that's actually at least 4.

[xsteve1]

X just can't guard the 3.

[mistabeecee41]

typical. get their best player in foul trouble, followed by 3 turnovers.

[bjf123]

C'mon guys. That's four straight bad possessions.


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[xsteve1]

Here we go getting behind on the road again.

[oddblob]

heads firmly in asses

[xu82]

Shaky start, and within 2

[Mecklenburg]

Pretty risky decision by Coach Gottfried to put Warren back in with 2 fouls and 12 minutes remaining. Maybe it's just to make sure his ankle isn't too messed up.

[xsteve1]

Got to go right at Warren.

[XMuskieFTW]

Jmart needs to be smart and not pick up a 2nd foul defending Warren, but really needs to attack him on the offensive end.

[Xville]

Need to keep feeding the big stain!,

[American X]

Matt Stainbrook is a warrior and a poet.

[paulxu]

Some very sloppy ball there. Come on guys.

[waggy]

Matt the only guy with any game apparently.

[GoMuskies]

Matt Stainbrook is a warrior and a poet.

And his teammates are playing like shit.

[oddblob]

sigh. nothing new here.

[Xville]

Justin Martin is playing awful...not feeling good about this at all. This game looks like every single road loss we have had this year

[mistabeecee41]

Mack doesn't trust our bench and it's showing. Need to do something here.

[xsteve1]

Sad performance so far. I hate to say it but they don't look ready to play outside of Stain.

[Xavgrad08]

NC State up 8. Defense hasn't been good and we are standing around on offense. Come on X pick it up.

[JAPER]

Boys take too long to get into the feel for the game at times this year.

[XU3232]

There is no excuse for this lousy of a start.... Cannot fall behind like this.

[GuyFawkes38]

Some meh recruiting years really feels like it's hitting us hard now. Need more talent.

[xsteve1]

Get down 10 plus and you can pretty much write this off. Just not good enough defensively to play from that far behind.

[oddblob]

wow this is awful.

[waggy]

Bad call

[xsteve1]

Flat as a fucking pancake. crap.

[mistabeecee41]

semaj playing like he wants to come back next year.

[oddblob]

ah ok we're good. myles is in.... :cursingmad:

[oddblob]

myles needs to be pulled now. he had his chance. hes a huge liability.

[xu82]

1-20.... is that even possible?
apparently it is

[Mecklenburg]

Get down 10 plus and you can pretty much write this off. Just not good enough defensively to play from that far behind.

I think Albany got down by 19 in the first half in the game before this. Then with about a minute to go, it was tied. Anything can happen, it's March Madness!

State had a game earlier this year when we were up like 17 points on Pittsburgh in the first half and we ended up losing by double digits.

[waggy]

at least with myles there is chance it might go in. And didn't get his shot blocked, which is better than the others so far.

[XU3232]

Myles is a joke. I couldn't miss that many in a row if I tried... Ok I definitely could.. But this slump is just ridiculous.

[Xavgrad08]

Christon needs to get it going. NC State is doing a good job of getting back defensively.

[waggy]

Okay it's not a good chance, but a chance.

[X Factor]

Myles shots look like misses the second he let's it go!!

[LadyMuskie]

finally!

[drudy23]

This feels very familiar...hopefully we don't start to play with no fear when it's too late.

[xu82]

Settle in, get another foul on Warren and all is well

[LadyMuskie]

good ball movement

[XMuskieFTW]

Signs of life!

[paulxu]

Stop hot dogging Semaj

[oddblob]

semaj needs to get his head straight

[xu82]

didn't he get both feet back in?

[paulxu]

Could have cut this SOB to 2. Damn.

[drudy23]

didn't he get both feet back in?

I didn't even think it was possible he didn't...he got the handoff at almost the free throw line.

[LadyMuskie]

come on X!

[waggy]

They are picking up some fouls. I think that's good.

[LadyMuskie]

Get a stop for God's sake!

[Mecklenburg]

Hey Paul, just curious where you are in South Carolina? I'm in Charlotte but used to work in Charleston.

[Michigan Muskie]

I didn't even think it was possible he didn't...he got the handoff at almost the free throw line.

I rewound the DVR to watch it again. He was nowhere near the baseline when he touched the ball. I don't know the rule about re-establishing yourself in bounds. Is it like the NFL? I mean, this wasn't even close.

[xu82]

Matt's coming back in, we need Matt

[X Factor]

Semaj is 4/5 from the field. What hot dogging? He's keeping us in this thing.

[xsteve1]

Getting a lead by half would be huge, cmon.

[paulxu]

Holding Warren OK at this point.
Our 3 pt shooting sucks.

[waggy]

I think hot dog comment was in regards to a crappy assist attempt by Dee.

[paulxu]

Semaj is 4/5 from the field. What hot dogging? He's keeping us in this thing.

He's got 4 TO's we could have done without from hot dogging. I like his game, just not that part.

[xu82]

I rewound the DVR to watch it again. He was nowhere near the baseline when he touched the ball. I don't know the rule about re-establishing yourself in bounds. Is it like the NFL? I mean, this wasn't even close.

I did the same thing - not even close. Wonder of they're sick of his complaining already? Or just missed it. Or both...

[XU3232]

They are picking up some fouls. I think that's good.

Absolutely. Need one of these guys to get 3 before half.. Preferably Warren.

[drudy23]

Our 3 point shooting is non-existent...we need to be able to spread the floor to be successful.

[waggy]

Or not.

[paulxu]

Come on x

[waggy]

The guy walked and fouled.

[drudy23]

Great...Davis another concussion

[paulxu]

They are VERY quick with the outlet off the miss.

[drudy23]

They are VERY quick with the outlet off the miss.

Not to mention we had 2 guys on the ground and one playing with his goggles.

[xu82]

I actually feel bad for Myles. You know he wants to do well and he has the ability.

[oddblob]

we'd be in the lead without semaj's carelessness and dee's idiotic pyrotechnics

[paulxu]

Hah! Great tip Matt.

[LadyMuskie]

Holy crap. WHat a tip in.

[Xavgrad08]

We need somebody besides Stainbrook and Christon to step up.

[oddblob]

ugh.

[drudy23]

Well that was completely predictable

[oddblob]

this is laughable.

[waggy]

Does the 1st round "point" know how to give up the ball??

[mistabeecee41]

you're nuts if you think semaj is keeping us in this game. 5 awful turnovers.

[paulxu]

That was hotdog. 1 on 5, and picking up a foul.

Kick it out when you get in the middle.

[DC Muskie]

This team is so freaking annoying by how stupid they are.

[xu82]

Not wise Semaj. Need to play smarter.

[mistabeecee41]

he was seriously surrounded by all 5 NC state players on that charge. pass the fucking ball.

[sgarcia]

That was hotdog. 1 on 5, and picking up a foul.

Kick it out when you get in the middle.

Kick it out for what? Another brick 3?

[paulxu]

Other options available:

1 - kick out
2 - tear drop
3 - pull up short jumper

[XU3232]

Terrible half. Stainbrook is carrying this team on his back.

[drudy23]

Terrible half...terrible. The Dee Davis disappearing act again. How he goes, we go, and he's not assertive at all.

[X Factor]

We wouldn't have won 8 games without Semaj this year. A couple of those turnovers weren't his fault. You guys are nuts.

[oddblob]

incredibly dumb, aggravating team. they have one half to change my mind

[xsteve1]

Lucky to be down only 6 with the lucky Stainbrook basket and all the frickin turnovers. Really can't feel good about coming back as we've seen all year.

[LadyMuskie]

sigh - I really thought we'd play better. I really thought we'd want it more.

[paulxu]

Kick it out for what? Another brick 3?

Better than a miss and picking up a foul. Trust somebody else. You can't win all by yourself.

[SkyWalker]

Uninspiring.

[drudy23]

Lucky to be down only 6 with the lucky Stainbrook basket and all the frickin turnovers. Really can't feel good about coming back as we've seen all year.

Oh, we'll come back...but it won't be until we're down 11 with 1:15 to play.

[xudash]

This team is so freaking annoying by how stupid they are.

They are frustrating. And NCSU is so ripe for the taking.

[mohr5150]

Fuck these refs. How they called those two charges on Semaj and didn't call the third foul on Warren is absolute bullshit. They've been given instructions to do whatever they can do keep the ACC player of the year in the tournament.

[JAPER]

Average ball by x, still only down 6 at half. Could be worse. 2nd half will be better. Go X!

[mistabeecee41]

Fuck these refs. How they called those two charges on Semaj and didn't call the third foul on Warren is absolute bullshit. They've been given instructions to do whatever they can do keep the ACC player of the year in the tournament.

lol. if that was the case, i doubt they would have given him 2 fouls in the first 4 minutes. it was a block, myles was moving.

[oddblob]

the third foul on Warren is absolute bullshit. .

this noncall was fine. semaj is playing out of control and stupid.

[xavierj]

Lucky to be down only 6 with the lucky Stainbrook basket and all the frickin turnovers. Really can't feel good about coming back as we've seen all year.

Uh Steve about half of Xaviers wins were come from behind wins.

[Xville]

I'll gladly eat crow if I'm wrong but I think this game is over...this team has not shown the ability to come back on the road/neutral floor all year. We are incredibly short on talent...zero bench outside of Reynolds and I think the stage is too big for him right now

[paulxu]

We can come back from 6. (Georgetown)
Need to get in the flow, get Justin to spot up in rhythm, and tighten up a little bit more on the D.

Fairly good job so far on Warren. (under his average)

[Mecklenburg]

Warren could've easily been called for his 3rd on that fast break. But I will say Warren tends to try and step around players and avoid the charge rather than barreling into them like some people.

[drudy23]

I'll gladly eat crow if I'm wrong but I think this game is over...this team has not shown the ability to come back on the road/neutral floor all year. We are incredibly short on talent...zero bench outside of Reynolds and I think the stage is too big for him right now

We need a significant contribution from more than 2 people. Davis and Philmore have been invisible.

[oddblob]

I'll gladly eat crow if I'm wrong but I think this game is over


yep

[LadyMuskie]

0-4 from three. 1 assist. 8 turnovers.

really great stats!

[mohr5150]

They just replayed it again and it looks even more like a charge than it did live. If that wasn't a charge, then there is no way the two on Semaj were.

[xsteve1]

Uh Steve about half of Xaviers wins were come from behind wins.

One away game at Bama. X aint at Tas.

[bjf123]

I'll gladly eat crow if I'm wrong but I think this game is over...this team has not shown the ability to come back on the road/neutral floor all year. We are incredibly short on talent...zero bench outside of Reynolds and I think the stage is too big for him right now

Have to agree with you, but then I'm a glass half empty kind of guy.


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[oddblob]

If that wasn't a charge, then there is no way the two on Semaj were.

would love to agree with you but this is not true. the end of half charge call was spot on and about as obvious as it gets.

[RealDeal]

We got this.

[drudy23]

Semaj's was 100% a charge...everyone in the building, including 5 NC State guys, knew where he was going.

[Xavgrad08]

We have not looked good so far, but we are far from done. We are only down 6. We need more from Martin and Philmore.

[LadyMuskie]

I love Semaj and I love Matt, but they can't win this game by themselves if we can't defend the three. We need to have 5 scorers, and someone needs to start hitting from outside - but not Myles. No more Myles!

[xu82]

would love to agree with you but this is not true. the end of half charge call was spot on and about as obvious as it gets.

Yeah, they even commented on it. Something like "I've never seen anyone stand there and wait so long to take a charge". It was unquestionable.

[mistabeecee41]

since we went 9-16 from 3 in the Creighton win at home...

18-80 from 3 as a team.

[XMuskieFTW]

No worries. Stainbrook will start the half off with an and 1 and from there we'll take off

[xsteve1]

Somehow have to get a lead in the 2nd half at least by the 10 minute mark.

[RealDeal]

I feel the spirit of Tu Holloway entering the building.

[drudy23]

I feel the spirit of Tu Holloway entering the building.

There's no one on this team with Tu's nuts.

[LadyMuskie]

I hope you're right! Channel Tu! Channel Lionel! Channel someone, anyone!

[RealDeal]

There's no one on this team with Tu's nuts.

Spoilsport.

[paulxu]

I hope Stanley Burrell is in the locker room giving them a frigging talk about balls.

[whiteyxu]

It was definitely a charge on Semaj at the end. And if Myles wouldn't have freaked out and moved, he would have drawn the third foul on Warren there, but it looked like the right call to me on replay. Definitely did not have his feet set.

[xu82]

There's no one on this team with Tu's nuts.

That's good -at least for Tu, but maybe we can channel his spirit.

[RealDeal]

Get jmart some looks from 3. Let's go.

[xavbball]

but not Myles. No more Myles! How can someone considered a three point specialist go 1 for 20? That's 5%...

[waggy]

He is due!

[LadyMuskie]

I hope Stanley Burrell is in the locker room giving them a frigging talk about balls.

Basketballs, baseballs, footballs, soccer balls, ping pong balls, golf balls, tennis balls, racket balls, softballs - no. wait. maybe skip that last one.

[Xville]

I hope that next year we have a bench, that would be nice

[waggy]

Due it Myles!

[Bmuskie]

It was definitely a charge on Semaj at the end. And if Myles wouldn't have freaked out and moved, he would have drawn the third foul on Warren there, but it looked like the right call to me on replay. Definitely did not have his feet set.

If refs are supposed to be consistent in their calls, then the block called on Myles was definitely a charge. He did exactly the same thing that ncstate did earlier in the game when they called a charge on Semaj.

[bjf123]

He is due!

He's been due for a few weeks now.


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[LadyMuskie]

How can someone considered a three point specialist go 1 for 20? That's 5%...

I honestly don't know. I'm sure he's a nice person, but his game makes me want to cry.

[XfansinKy]

Played terrible and still in this though

[xu82]

He's just setting us up to look stupid. He'll hit 19 of the next 20 on our next "run" and we'll put a statue of him on campus. (Well, maybe...)

[LadyMuskie]

So help me God. If we do not work on defending the three in the off season I'm going to lose my mind.

[xsteve1]

Fuck.

[XMuskieFTW]

uhhh Dee?

[oddblob]

ugh. of course that 3 and a dee turnover. of course.

[oddblob]

this feels a lot like one of those games where we never close the gap.

[Xville]

Dee Davis my gawd he pisses me off...you have a guy caught in the air..go up and draw the foul geezus

[waggy]

Hey another assist.

[drudy23]

this feels a lot like one of those games where we never close the gap.

Exactly...just like all our road games.

[waggy]

They are going to have to play really well from this point forward to win this. Can't give up offensive boards.

[mistabeecee41]

not the way we needed to start the 2nd half.

[DC Muskie]

We keep playing stupid, that has been constant all season.

[xsteve1]

If this goes to 10 write it off. Feels like were down 15 with the way NC. State works the clock.

[Xavgrad08]

Frustrating game so far. We gave state two offensive rebounds. You will not win when you do that.

[mistabeecee41]

Frustrating game so far. We gave state two offensive rebounds. You will not win when you do that.

i'd like to see more jalen than zeke in the 2nd half.

[XfansinKy]

Gotta just go on a run n hope for the best. It ain't over.

[LadyMuskie]

Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

[xu82]

i'd like to see more jalen than zeke in the 2nd half.

Jalen does offer the possibility of high energy

[LadyMuskie]

Here we go! Come on, dammit! Let's turn this around!

[waggy]

There we go.

[Mecklenburg]

No NC State lead is ever safe. Trust me.

[oddblob]

great run. i want to see a lead now.

[xsteve1]

Much better, as Dee goes so goes X. Need good Dee the rest of the way.

[XfansinKy]

Haha I love these kids. They sometimes win or lose in spite of themselves. They show heart though.

[XU3232]

Can't stop now.. Need to keep this play up.

[oddblob]

i dont think this team has ever had a good possession after cutting it to 2. never.

[xsteve1]

The Martin missed 3 was a killer, down 6 again.

[XMuskieFTW]

It is amazing how quickly we give up what we just cut into a lead

[LadyMuskie]

We cut it to two, and then we turn back into Xavier.

[mistabeecee41]

The Martin missed 3 was a killer, down 6 again.

yeah, that sequence summed up a lot of this season.

[RealDeal]

Can't give up layups.

[XU3232]

Transition defense has been pretty bad tonight.

[waggy]

So the net is the cut the lead by 1 point.

[xudash]

We cut it to two, and then we turn back into Xavier.

Thanks. You put it better than what I almost posted.

[paulxu]

Transition defense has been pretty bad tonight.

We have transition defense?

[XfansinKy]

i dont think this team has ever had a good possession after cutting it to 2. never. I know right.

[Xville]

Same amount of field goals and down by six...amazing

[xsteve1]

X has only been to the line twice tonight.

[LadyMuskie]

Sooooo . . . Thursday night is looking like it just freed up.

[waggy]

How the F is that a foul on Davis?