Selection Show Live Chat

[American X]

Live Chat (http://us14.chatzy.com/32573582761803) is open for the Selection Show.

Password is in X Lounge or PM me.

[bourbonman]

Gang, can you help me out? I'm on a flight and can't get into the Chat Room. Can someone post on this or antoher thread bracket info as it comes in as it pertains to X and Big East teams. Other random thoughts appreciated. I'll see brackets on-line so don't need them all, but on-line is usually a bit delayed vs. TV, at least in the past. Thanks

[Masterofreality]

What's the password?

[mistabeecee41]

just as i suspected. wasn't nervous at all until 6:00 hit. heart rate is now speeding up.

[mistabeecee41]

just as i suspected. wasn't nervous at all until 6:00 hit. heart rate is now speeding up.

[usfldan]

We won't be playing Dayton- #6 Ohio State vs. #11 Dayton in Buffalo in the South. One bracket down, three to do.

[xsteve1]

Starting to think we'll be in Dayton.Think PC took our spot.

[bourbonman]

Starting to think we'll be in Dayton.Think PC took our spot.

If they split conferences up in the various regions, not a good sign no BE team in first region?

[xsteve1]

If they split conferences up in the various regions, not a good sign no BE team in first region?

yeah, this may get scary. most likely the play in game

[LadyMuskie]

I am not feeling good about this . . . hope it's just anxiety and I'm worrying for nothing.

[xsteve1]

no BE teams yet, crap

[The_Mack_Pack]

BYU a ten? We had a better resume than they did.

[xu82]

Creighton #3 in west

[xsteve1]

Not sure were getting in now?

[usfldan]

Not in the West - still none of the at large play-ins announced.

[LadyMuskie]

there will have to be 3 Big East teams in the remaining two brackets for us to be in. Getting really nervous.

[xumuskies08]

How the fuck did BYU get a 10 seed?

[xsteve1]

Not in the West - still none of the at large play-ins announced.

that has to be our spot if we get in. Maybe X-UMass in Dayton.

[drudy23]

Getting extremely nervous.

[bjf123]

I'm thinking we're toast.


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[xumuskies08]

99% chance X is going to Dayton at this point. UGH

[xsteve1]

That loss at Seton Hall was a killer, especially for the eye test guys.

[drudy23]

Ugh

[Xavgrad08]

I will take the play in game at this point. I just want in this damn tournament.

[xsteve1]

How many spots left?

[GoMuskies]

That loss at Seton Hall was a killer, especially for the eye test guys.

The loss at home against Seton Hall was the real killer.

[XU Cowbell Kid]

I was not impressed with Nebraska's resume just from looking at their schedule.

[usfldan]

X vs Nc. State in a play in

[LadyMuskie]

Shit.

[Xavgrad08]

We are in. Now we have to play NC State.

[mistabeecee41]

there we fucking go.

[xsteve1]

at least were in. Would love a shot at SLU.

[oddblob]

Shit.

^

[usfldan]

Winner plays #5 St. Louis in Orlando on Thursday (wasn't that where we started "The Run")?

[The_Mack_Pack]

I like the Saint Louis matchup. I guess we'll see if Bilas was correct or not.

[LadyMuskie]

Winner plays #5 St. Louis in Orlando on Thursday (wasn't that where we started "The Run")?

We started The Run in Dayton.

[bjf123]

That's gonna be tough.


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[xsteve1]

UMass a 6 is a joke.

[drudy23]

Duke in Raleigh...what a joke.

[xumuskies08]

Curses. All of the curses.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Love it!!!!! We will beat NC State and then play St Louis. That is a great draw. Hate going to Dayton but love the draw.

[usfldan]

Both play-ins in the Midwest?

Iowa v. Tennessee is the other. Three of the teams from the Bahamas end up in the play-in games.

[GoMuskies]

Midwest Region is absolutely insane.

[Caveat]

I will take the play in game at this point. I just want in this damn tournament.

The play-in game is not the tournament. You're playing for the right to have a seed and be in the tournament.

[usfldan]

We started The Run in Dayton.

Even better. But we went to Orlando after that, right?

[OTRMUSKIE]

I take that back about the draw. We would have to,play Louisville and no way they are a 4 seed. They got totally screwed

[GoMuskies]

The play-in game is not the tournament. You're playing for the right to have a seed and be in the tournament.

Just stop.

[LadyMuskie]

Even better. But we went to Orlando after that, right?

Yes. Then Atlanta.

[xsteve1]

The play-in game is not the tournament. You're playing for the right to have a seed and be in the tournament.

All major conference teams in it, though.

[MuskieFN]

Was the entire committee drunk all weekend or just a majority of them?

Actually, NC St then SLU isn't too bad.

[XU3232]

I'm more nervous about NC state than SLU. The Midwest is loaded.

[mistabeecee41]

whose out? SMU? Arizona State?

[Jesuit4Life]

I'm just reminding myself how much last year sucked.

We're in. We live for March.

[mohr5150]

What in the hell did BYU, Oklahoma State, Stanford, or Kansas State do better than us to get a higher seed? For that matter, what the hell did Dayton do better than us?

[GoMuskies]

So the Committee gave Wichita State a #1 seed and then said good luck. Beat Kentucky, Louisville and Michigan or Duke, and you're in the Final Four. They may play 3 of the top 7 programs of all time if they want to get to the Final Four.

[RealDeal]

Those first 2 games are both good for our RPI, so I like it.

[LadyMuskie]

We're going to have to play very well to get past NC State.

[drudy23]

We're going to have to play very well to get past NC State.

We'd have to play very well to beat any team we played.

[GoMuskies]

whose out? SMU? Arizona State?

SMU has to be out.

[GoMuskies]

"Welcome fellow scholars" sign should make a comeback.

[LadyMuskie]

We'd have to play very well to beat any team we played.

Yeah, but the match-up just isn't great for us.

[LadyMuskie]

A10 gets its 6 teams in.

[Jesuit4Life]

@XavierTickets 16s
No tickets will be available through the Xavier Ticket Office for the First Round in Dayton. Buy: http://bit.ly/1dc8sAy or 877-NCAA-TIX.

[GoMuskies]

A10 gets its 6 teams in.

I think they all deserved it. Maybe overseeded in a couple of cases, though.

[usfldan]

By Seed:



Seed South West Midwest East
1 Florida Arizona Wichita St. Virginia
2 Kansas Wisconsin Michigan Villanova
3 Syracuse Creighton Duke Iowa St.
4 UCLA SD State Louisville Michigan St
5 VCU Oklahoma St. Louis Cincinnati
6 Ohio St Baylor UMass North Carolina
7 New Mexico Oregon Texas UConn
8 Colorado Gonzaga Kentucky Memphis
9 Pitt Oklahoma St. Kansas St Geo. Washington
10 Stanford BYU Arizona St St. Joseph's
11 Dayton Nebraska Iowa/Tennessee Providence
12 SF Austin North Dakota St Xavier/NC State Harvard
13 Tulsa New Mexico St Manhattan Delaware
14 Western Mich Louisiana Mercer NC Central
15 Eastern Ky American Wofford Milwaukee
16 Albany/Mt.St.Marys Weber St Cal Poly/Texas So. Coastal Carolina

[xuinmd]

what time tuesda

[drudy23]

Yeah, but the match-up just isn't great for us.

Why?

[The_Mack_Pack]

Last team in the field. Phew..

[GoMuskies]

X one of last two in.

[LadyMuskie]

I think they all deserved it. Maybe overseeded in a couple of cases, though.

Completely agree. Makes comments from some coaches even dumber.

[vee4xu]

In the end, Providence winning the BE tournament allowed the selection committee to simply switch places between X and Providence.

[OH.X.MI]

Anyone know if we are session 1 or 2?

[waggy]

Those first 2 games are both good for our RPI, so I like it.

Hahahaha!

[The_Mack_Pack]

The AAC got what they deserved. Horrible non-con schedules got them their terrible seeds.

[drudy23]

Anyone know if we are session 1 or 2?

Does this qualify as the first "what time do we play post"? Record time....geez, might want to wait until at least 5 minutes after the final bracket.

[xubball1993]

Tuesday night - winner plays St. Louis in Orlando on Thursday

[xsteve1]

I believe X plays Tuesday since the 2nd round is Thurs.

[vee4xu]

Somebody help me here. How do ud, Nebraska and BYU avoid playing in dayton over X, Iowa and NC State?

[OH.X.MI]

Does this qualify as the first "what time do we play post"? Record time....geez, might want to wait until at least 5 minutes after the final bracket.

Trying to purchase tickets. Sorry if that bothers you.

[xsteve1]

Somebody help me here. How do ud, Nebraska and BYU avoid playing in dayton over X, Iowa and NC State?

I think in the end they didn't want to give UD a home game.

[BMoreX]

@SFFiveTu: The "mid major" a10 get teams in easily.. Play-in game.. Louisville a 4 seed..

[vee4xu]

I think in the end they didn't want to give UD a home game.

That explains ud, and I suppose I get that. I don't agree with it, but I get it. But, what about BYU and Nebraska, especially BYU.

[GoMuskies]

Louisville as a #4 screws SLU/Xavier/Wichita State more than it screws Louisville.

[Jesuit4Life]

Trying to purchase tickets. Sorry if that bothers you.

It'll be either 6:30 or 9:00, I think.

[xu95]

I am in Orlando for vacation. Might have to scalp some tickets

[chico]

I think in the end they didn't want to give UD a home game.

So they gave us an away game, because you know all those UD fans will be cheering against us.

[Jesuit4Life]

9:10 Tuesday

[XUXC11]

9:10 ET on Tuesday

[xu95]

9:10 eastern on Tuesday

[xsteve1]

Have to think if X can win they would get a late game on Thursday.

[vee4xu]

Have to think if X can win they would get a late game on Thursday.

Why so? Because the ud fans will leave early and not root against us?

[SemajParlor]

Pretty bummed out.

[vee4xu]

Pretty bummed out.

Eh, don't be bummed. They are in. Just have to play an extra game. Enjoy it!

[OTRMUSKIE]

Don't be bummed out guys. This is a great opportunity for X. You get to play in your own back yard and if X wins that they get to play a very overrated St Louis. I love this draw other than Louisville.

[SemajParlor]

Yeah, not worried about the play in game really. Don't like our potential match ups. Oh well, I guess need to take it game by game.

[Jesuit4Life]

Have to think if X can win they would get a late game on Thursday.
I don't recall which team but I seem to recall a play-in team getting an early afternoon turnaround game, also in Orlando.

[Thor in 204]

Don't be bummed out guys. This is a great opportunity for X. You get to play in your own back yard and if X wins that they get to play a very overrated St Louis. I love this draw other than Louisville.

Remember that The Run went through Louisville!

[GuyFawkes38]

On the bright side, the play in game will be a great opportunity to improved our tourney win-loss record.

[GoMuskies]

Louisville as the #4 means that Wichita State is likely to play their Sweet Sixteen game in Indy in front of 15,000+ Louisville fans.

Unless Xavier steps in the way of that!

[Denver Muskie]

I am in Orlando for vacation. Might have to scalp some tickets

I'm in Tampa this week and will definitely make it over. Any idea if Xavier still has tickets for Thursday? I think i'd be calling them first thing Wednesday morning.

[Backyard Champ]

Agree. Got a semi difficult game against no state, then a very beatable game against St. Louis. Then we play a Louisville team who is good, but UC played them tough. Win that and get the worst 1 seed

[bourbonman]

I'm thrilled we're in. Hated last year missing completely out. Was juts reading an article on CBS Sports and it was saying NC State was a surprise team in. Their win over Syracuse probably got them in. Let's just play like we can and go to Orlando.

Go X.

[Pablo's Brother]

Any idea what time Thursday in Orlando?

[vee4xu]

Would love for X to pound NC State just to shove it in Coach K's whiny face.

[bourbonman]

Would love for X to pound NC State just to shove it in Coach K's whiny face.

This!

[vee4xu]

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/teams/rpi/NCST/north-carolina-state-wolfpack

Here's NC State's RPI breakdown

[MarkGormley]

Just scratching the surface but it seems that NCState struggles against teams who have strong guards that score most of the points. That should be in our favor if Dee and JMart show up. Also, TJ Warren is their stud. Averages 25 pts/game and a bunch of rebounds.

[mohr5150]

15 of their 21 wins were against the RPI 101+ While we had 11 of 20 We have common opponents in UC, Wake, and Tennessee. They went 2-2 against that group while we went 3-1. They went 1-7 vs the top 25 while we went 2-4. Their worse loss was against Wake, while ours is the horrible USC. They aren't a good free throw shooting team, and they don't seem to hit the three very well, although Ralston Turner jacks them up at a very high rate. On paper, this looks like a very winnable game. Let's go out and put the big old middle finger to the selection committee for disrespecting the Big East by having the third best team have the play the seventh best team in the ACC.

[GoMuskies]

Sagarin Predictor would make Xavier a 3 point favorite. I would expect a line very close to that to come out tonight.

[BandAid]

Sagarin Predictor would make Xavier a 3 point favorite. I would expect a line very close to that to come out tonight.

Does that account for the home court advantage?

[XUFan09]

Still pissed about BYU. There resume wasn't that great and they lost one of their star players. I mean, what the hell? A 10 seed is laughable.

[BMoreX]

Still pissed about BYU. There resume wasn't that great and they lost one of their star players. I mean, what the hell? A 10 seed is laughable.

That one is the worst of the upper seeds .

[GoMuskies]

Does that account for the home court advantage?

That's pure predictor. I don't think there will be an appeciable home court advantage for either squad Tuesday night.

[Pete Delkus]

Martin should feel as comfortable as you can get facing TJ Warren, guarding Dougie 3 times all year. Warren can hit the 3, but his mid range game is what reminds me of Dougie.

Also, if Xavier plays well, the play-in game isn't all that bad. Think of the NCAA basketball eyes watching this games (along with the Iowa/Tenn game). A win here and against STL will really propel Xavier into next year. Of course, a L'Ville win would be incredible…but I'm getting ahead. If Christon, Martin and Stainbrook play like they SHOULD…this can be a showcase for Xavier moving into 2015.

[xu82]

As disappointing as this is, it's a step in the right direction. We are trending up. Last year was the exception for well chronicled reasons. This year we have a chance and our guys will get some important big game experience. Hope we can make it more of a home environment than NC State fans on short notice. That ends my glass half full speech...

[casualfan]

For those who think we couldve lost to Marquette and still made it.
(http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24487953/official-ncaa-1-68-seeding-order)

[MuskieFN]

For those who think we couldve lost to Marquette and still made it.
(http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24487953/official-ncaa-1-68-seeding-order)

I don't think anyone still believes X could have lost Thursday night and made it. I thought it could have still happened. That was obviously incorrect.

[GoMuskies]

Two hours later, I'm excited to be in the play-in game now. This way I get to watch Xavier play Tuesday night and do not have to wait until Thursday or Friday. I'm taking the glass half full approach...

[mohr5150]

Teams that were ahead of us on the S-curve that shouldn't have just completely piss me off:

BYU
Iowa (I know they beat us head-to-head, but they have completely tanked down the stretch)
Kansas State
Nebraska

Stanford and Arizona State are probably more on our level then where we were placed. Total bullshit.

[Masterofreality]

Any idea what time Thursday in Orlando?

@FOX19Jeremy: If Xavier beats NC State, Muskies would play SLU at 7:20 EST Thursday in Orlando.

[XUFan09]

@FOX19Jeremy: If Xavier beats NC State, Muskies would play SLU at 7:20 EST Thursday in Orlando.

Fuck, I have class. Might skip...and make my way early to Cincinnati for a wedding.

[paulxu]

Who is truTV that is broadcasting our game? Don't know if I get that channel.

Edit. I do get that channel

[STL_XUfan]

Who is truTV that is broadcasting our game? Don't know if I get that channel.

Edit. I do get that channel
How have you survived this long without Hardcore Pawn or Lizard Lick Towing in your life.

[gladdenguy]

Borzello ranks the tourney teams from 1-68

Xavier at 44 (ahead of Providence, NC State, Dayton, and Nebraska)

Providence winning killed us Saturday. Dayton playing at home also burned us. And BYU is an absolute joke. They loved that Non conf OOC SOS at 4.
Schedule tough. If you don't win them....who cares (for this committee)

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24487457/from-1-68-ranking-the-ncaa-field

[xu82]

Well, if we're that good we should advance. I watched every game and I have no idea how good we are. Sometimes we look great and sometimes... not so much. Our huge volatility in level of play is what got us here. Let's hope the good X shows up in crunch time.

[nasdadjr]

For years I have read this site and enjoyed reading all of the back and forth that all you people do over the years. I always sat back and laughed at you guys while getting a little pertinent information regarding Xavier basketball. I now feel the urge to post on here because of all the complaining about Xavier's draw for this tournament. People you do realize that we ARE dancing right? I can't believe all the negative posting that is going on about this. Get real people last year we didn't even make the freakin NIT and now we are back in the show.

You do realize how good our draw is right? The best thing that could have happened to Xavier was Providence winning the Big East. No doubt about it the took our spot in the second round. Thing is I am a realist and know that Xavier could never beat this North Carolina team. Instead we get a draw against two teams that are offensively inept. Yeah Warren is a beast but NC State is a much worse version of Creighton and them along with St. Louis is about as good as it gets as far as match-ups go. I think the round of 32 more than maximizes this teams potential and would be an awesome season from the dumpster fire that was last year.

[Caveat]

With Stainbrook's knee ailing, I can't imagine how playing an extra game is a "good" thing for Xavier.

[xu82]

And I really don't think there's been a lot of "complaining". Certainly not in the mainstream. We were concerned about this possibility. It happened. Now we move forward. As i stated earlier, it's progress from last year, and a step toward our bright future.

[gladdenguy]

I don't care if we played any of the other 6 seeds. Winning one game is easier than winning 2. End of discussion. And it would have been more rest for Stainbrook.
Playing a road game at UD not better than playing on Thursday. Also, I'm not complaining about being "in". Much better than the NIT.

[xu82]

I don't care if we played any of the other 6 seeds. Winning one game is easier than winning 2. End of discussion. And it would have been more rest for Stainbrook.
Playing a road game at UD not better than playing on Thursday. Also, I'm not complaining about being "in". Much better than the NIT.

It's not just the rest for Matt, I was worried someone might hurt themselves getting him off the floor after he got gassed! It seemed the whole team showed up to help. One or two guys alone might find themselves on the injury list.

[Masterofreality]

For years I have read this site and enjoyed reading all of the back and forth that all you people do over the years. I always sat back and laughed at you guys while getting a little pertinent information regarding Xavier basketball. I now feel the urge to post on here because of all the complaining about Xavier's draw for this tournament. People you do realize that we ARE dancing right? I can't believe all the negative posting that is going on about this. Get real people last year we didn't even make the freakin NIT and now we are back in the show.

You do realize how good our draw is right? The best thing that could have happened to Xavier was Providence winning the Big East. No doubt about it the took our spot in the second round. Thing is I am a realist and know that Xavier could never beat this North Carolina team. Instead we get a draw against two teams that are offensively inept. Yeah Warren is a beast but NC State is a much worse version of Creighton and them along with St. Louis is about as good as it gets as far as match-ups go. I think the round of 32 more than maximizes this teams potential and would be an awesome season from the dumpster fire that was last year.

Welcome. We're not ogres, although sometimes it appears to be.

I would have preferred not to have to play another game this quickly and then have to go play two more days later then 2 more days after that, but it's Tournament time and guess what. You have to be tough and suck it up. Hopefully Stain's knee will let him play a solid 20-25 minutes.

If we have to do this, though, we could not have asked for a more favorable first 2 game draw. If we're good enough we'll win.

[XU-XHI]

The play-in game is not the tournament. You're playing for the right to have a seed and be in the tournament.

Ask the NCAA about that. First Round. Also check with VCU or Wichita State about playing in the First Round.

[Masterofreality]

Teams that were ahead of us on the S-curve that shouldn't have just completely piss me off:

BYU
Iowa (I know they beat us head-to-head, but they have completely tanked down the stretch)
Kansas State
Nebraska

Stanford and Arizona State are probably more on our level then where we were placed. Total bullshit.

Lots of chalk in the picks and seedings, with a few exceptions. BYU was 31 RPI and got a 10- probably because of Injury. Iowa is a play in like us. KState was really treated kindly 51 RPI and a 9 seed? Uhhhhh. Nebraska was just behind us at 48 RPI and got an 11 having to play Baylor. Stanford was 41 RPI, AZ State 44. They both got 10's. We were given what we got, I believe because of Matt's injury and our proximity to the dump. When you drop into the 40's you are playing with fire.

The small schools got no credit. So Miss was a 33 RPI and Toledo was 38- both left out. Missouri at 49 and Minnesota at 50 were left out as was SMU and Florida State at 53 & 54 respectively. Obviously, Ken Pomeroy's ratings got the finger flipped at them by the Committee.

For all of the statements that RPI means hardly anything, the resulting field picks and seedings belie that.

[Masterofreality]

Ask the NCAA about that. First Round. Also check with VCU or Wichita State about playing in the First Round.

We get a full NCAA game credit for this game. Yeah, it counts.

[GoMuskies]

Also check with VCU or Wichita State about playing in the First Round.

Wichita State never played in that round.

[Filthy Conservative]

Does Mack get bonuses for NCAA victories?

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[nasdadjr]

Okay lets get one thing straight Tuesday is the 1st round. If you win you move to the second round. It counts all the same it is not a play-in game anymore. I think in another thread someone mentioned about how major teams don't play on Tuesday but as I recall USC, California, Iowa, Tennessee, N.C State, South Florida (as Big East member), Clemson and so on would disagree. These are legitimate NCAA tournament games involving teams that are in the top 20 percent of college basketball.

[The_Mack_Pack]

That elitist "we shouldn't play in the play-in game" talk is absolutely ridiculous. UK would've taken that spot in a heartbeat last season.. All it means is a possibility at a little more basketball which I'm all for. We also get a time slot to ourselves so a lot of the nation will just be focused on our game and get to check out some of our really good players that not many know about.

[xubrew]

Okay lets get one thing straight Tuesday is the 1st round. If you win you move to the second round. It counts all the same it is not a play-in game anymore. I think in another thread someone mentioned about how major teams don't play on Tuesday but as I recall USC, California, Iowa, Tennessee, N.C State, South Florida (as Big East member), Clemson and so on would disagree. These are legitimate NCAA tournament games involving teams that are in the top 20 percent of college basketball.

It never was a play in game. It was officially the Opening Round game before.

Even when it was the two weakest #16 seeds, it was considered a full blown NCAA Tournament game. The rules that applied for all other tournament games applied to that one in every aspect, and it was officially classified as a championship event.

The games on Tuesday and Wednesday are definitely tournament games. They may not feel the same as the round of 64 games, but then again the round of 64 doesn't feel the same as the Sweet Sixteen, but it's still the tournament.

[Caveat]

Ask the NCAA about that. First Round. Also check with VCU or Wichita State about playing in the First Round.

The marketing department can call it whatever the hell they want. The real "first round" is the field of 64.

[Masterofreality]

The marketing department can call it whatever the hell they want. The real "first round" is the field of 64.

No, the money credit is the same. Go on with yourself, tho.

[wkrq59]

This is just plain silly. remember last year? Xavier is in the damn NCAA and that is that. The only thing that matters now is win and advance. Period. Ask SMU or any of the other snubbed. Just win and keep playing until you're out. For a first time membership in the competition that is the Big East this is a good, no make that very good season. Just think win and be proud of this Xavier team.

[Muskie]

The SMU grad down the hall from me would love to be playing in the NCAA tournament in Dayton on Tuesday.

[chico]

The marketing department can call it whatever the hell they want. The real "first round" is the field of 64.

What about when the field was 48? Were the first round games "play-ins" since not everyone played on the first and second days?

What about when it was only 32 teams? You know, when first played there were only 8 teams. I mean if you really want to be a purist about it, why not go all in?

[Filthy Conservative]

Yeah didn't UCLA used to get the first 2 rounds at home? And it wasn't 6 games either..( I am sure Seth Davis will tell me as he incessantly pimps his book.)

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[El Shaqtus]

Looks like the Midwest has a lot of familiar faces.

And a damn boatload of good teams.