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muskiefan82
03-15-2014, 10:14 PM
...just a feeling that X will be an 11 seed and will be matched up against UK as a 6 seed. Don't know why, but I can absolutely see this as the first round game.
StanleyOwnsYou
03-15-2014, 10:30 PM
I would love OSU as a 6/11... Or Oklahoma.. or Texas
BMoreX
03-15-2014, 10:39 PM
Anything but the First Four game.
THRILLHOUSE
03-15-2014, 10:39 PM
We're gonna be in Dayton.
StanleyOwnsYou
03-15-2014, 10:44 PM
We're gonna be in Dayton.
Can only hope that the teams Lunardi has in front of us (ASU,Tennessee, SMU, or someone else?) are seen differently by the committee.
On a side note. I really like Ed Cooley, seems like a great coach and a phenomenal leader. Good for PC, good for the Big East as a whole.
THRILLHOUSE
03-15-2014, 10:46 PM
On a side note. I really like Ed Cooley, seems like a great coach and a phenomenal leader. Good for PC, good for the Big East as a whole.
I like Cotton and Cooley a lot. Under different circumstances I would've been behind Providence all the way tonight.
Xavier
03-15-2014, 10:51 PM
Coming into tonight I thought if Providence won they were out of play in game and we were in. Hope I'm wrong
BENWAR
03-15-2014, 11:21 PM
...just a feeling that X will be an 11 seed and will be matched up against UK as a 6 seed. Don't know why, but I can absolutely see this as the first round game.
So does Joe Lunardi.
The_Mack_Pack
03-15-2014, 11:33 PM
Anything but the play-in game vs Dayton. Please!!! Anything but that.
THRILLHOUSE
03-15-2014, 11:34 PM
Lunardi just dropped X to the last 4 in.
Porkopolis
03-15-2014, 11:36 PM
Lunardi just dropped X to the last 4 in.
So did Palm.
MuskieFN
03-15-2014, 11:46 PM
Lunardi has SMU ahead of Xavier. Palm has Dayton ahead of Xavier. I'm going to doubt the S curve ends up like that.
As an aside, I'd rather be seeded behind Dayton and play SMU in the First Four than play a road game against Dayton.
xsteve1
03-15-2014, 11:56 PM
People are afraid to play UDump, really? I doubt it happens but how can people be afraid of UDump.
KabeX
03-16-2014, 12:04 AM
People are afraid to play UDump, really? I doubt it happens but how can people be afraid of UDump.
Amen.
Xavier
03-16-2014, 12:06 AM
People are afraid to play UDump, really? I doubt it happens but how can people be afraid of UDump.
Just makes it harder to advance. To get to sweet 16, three games in 6 days with a flight in there. Brutal.
MuskieFN
03-16-2014, 12:09 AM
People are afraid to play UDump, really? I doubt it happens but how can people be afraid of UDump.
I just don't think a team should have to play a road game in the tournament. X or anyone else.
Caveat
03-16-2014, 12:37 AM
People are afraid to play UDump, really? I doubt it happens but how can people be afraid of UDump.
Not afraid.
Insulted.
"Play-In" games are beneath a program of Xavier's stature.
waggy
03-16-2014, 12:49 AM
I know St. John's is on no ones radar, but I think they got a shot. The Big East is a Beast of a conference. #3 in the nation according to Sagarin, Pomeroy and others.
I might tune into ESPN just to listen to their epic meltdown.
TUclutch
03-16-2014, 03:02 AM
Not afraid.
Insulted.
"Play-In" games are beneath a program of Xavier's stature.
Would agree, except Xavier could have avoided it. If they receive it it's through no fault but their own. Can't complain since they lost to seton hall twice. How about a program like Xaviers takes the opponents we get, show them what we're about and still make a run. Playin game or not.
xubrew
03-16-2014, 03:18 AM
I just don't think a team should have to play a road game in the tournament. X or anyone else.
I think the set up for the First Four is stupid. I liked the field just fine at 64, but if they're going to go out to 68, they need to make it logistically better.
If a team like BYU is in the First Four, how the hell are any of their fans supposed to get to Dayton on less than 48 hrs notice?? Same with teams like Texas Southern and Cal Poly. Part of the experience for the fans and the players is ruined when you have to travel to Dayton in less than 48 hrs, and then someplace else again in less than 48 hrs.
If they're going to do it, I'd actually be in favor of playing it on campus. Let the better seeded team host the game. Hell, have an entire line of #17 teams and let them play at the #16 seeded teams. Then, four teams don't have to travel at all, and the other four teams probably won't have to go quite as far.
Mount Saint Mary's @ Milwaukee, Cal Poly @ Weber, Albany @ Wofford, Texas Southern @ Coastal
You could also play all four games on the same night, which would further help with travel.
Men's basketball is the only college tournament that doesn't allow any games at home at some point in the tournament. In fact, it's the only major sport I can think of that doesn't have games at home sites at any point of the tournament. Part of me thinks that if you played your ass off, had a great year, and earned a good seed, you deserve to play a game or two at home in the early rounds. If the top four seeds got to play at home in the rounds of 64 and 32, I wouldn't vote against it. It would make the regular season a little more meaningful.
But, it would also suck for anyone to have to go to Dayton and play a virtual road game against a team who didn't do anything to deserve a home court advantage other than put in a bid to host an event that no one else really wants, and that shouldn't really exist in the first place.
xubrew
03-16-2014, 03:44 AM
Anything but the play-in game vs Dayton. Please!!! Anything but that.
Would agree, except Xavier could have avoided it. If they receive it it's through no fault but their own. Can't complain since they lost to seton hall twice. How about a program like Xaviers takes the opponents we get, show them what we're about and still make a run. Playin game or not.
Another way to avoid it would have been to play Dayton during the year in place of a buy game. We win and we're probably safely inside the First Four, and even if we lost and were in the First Four with Dayton, the committee would not pair us together because they avoid rematches in the first two rounds if possible. Unless we had played the other two teams in the First Four, we wouldn't be playing Dayton again.
I've wanted to play Dayton during the season, but not in the tournament, and especially not on their home court during the tournament, which is one of the reasons I wanted to play them during the year. I think Dayton is a little further in, but going to UD for the First Four isn't going to be fun even if we're not playing them. The allotments aren't as big for the First Four, which means more local fans, and in this case UD fans, will have already bought the tickets. The crowd will be against us even if we're not playing them.
OTRMUSKIE
03-16-2014, 05:22 AM
Dayton fans are white trash and they already said they will buy tickets to root against X. Screw Dayton and don't worry guys because the committee will never let a program like X play in an arena that host play in games. However, if the committee comes down with cholera and forgets who X is, I hope we all buy tickets and rule that filthy arena. Too bad white trash Dayton Fan will buy a ticket to root against us. Screw dayton!
xsteve1
03-16-2014, 06:46 AM
Another way to avoid it would have been to play Dayton during the year in place of a buy game. We win and we're probably safely inside the First Four, and even if we lost and were in the First Four with Dayton, the committee would not pair us together because they avoid rematches in the first two rounds if possible. Unless we had played the other two teams in the First Four, we wouldn't be playing Dayton again.
I've wanted to play Dayton during the season, but not in the tournament, and especially not on their home court during the tournament, which is one of the reasons I wanted to play them during the year. I think Dayton is a little further in, but going to UD for the First Four isn't going to be fun even if we're not playing them. The allotments aren't as big for the First Four, which means more local fans, and in this case UD fans, will have already bought the tickets. The crowd will be against us even if we're not playing them.
Nope X can find somebody better to play than Dayton. And as long as Mack is coaching the chances of playing them are slim. Scheduling another home and home vs. a team like Memphis or Gonzaga is a much better option. I know they're you #2 team so I understand why you want to play them though.
xubball1993
03-16-2014, 07:02 AM
I hope if we get stuck with a play-in game at the Dump, Xavier Nation will be there in force to help lift the team into the field of 64 (at which the tourney should have stayed).
XUFan09
03-16-2014, 07:08 AM
From a road game perspective, I'm with Brew. It's a very winnable road game that looks really good on the resume, even when they're in the 51-100 range of the RPI (and a very understandable loss if they lose). I think I heard once that as A10 teams go, Xavier still has a really good relationship with St. Joseph's. That's another team that frequently ends up in the 51-100 range and thus can be a good win or an understandable loss.
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xsteve1
03-16-2014, 07:20 AM
From a road game perspective, I'm with Brew. It's a very winnable road game that looks really good on the resume, even when they're in the 51-100 range of the RPI (and a very understandable loss if they lose). I think I heard once that as A10 teams go, Xavier still has a really good relationship with St. Joseph's. That's another team that frequently ends up in the 51-100 range and thus can be a good win or an understandable loss.
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Look for St. Joe's to go in the toilet next year. They lose everybody besides Benbry. I wouldn't be surprised if they are below Fordham and Duquesne next year.
XUFan09
03-16-2014, 08:04 AM
Look for St. Joe's to go in the toilet next year. They lose everybody besides Benbry. I wouldn't be surprised if they are below Fordham and Duquesne next year.
Ah you're right, I forgot. They only have 3-star recruits coming in too (true to Martelli's recruiting performance). They'll have to grow up fast.
So, next year is not a good year to start a home-and-home with St. Joe's.
xubrew
03-16-2014, 11:24 AM
Nope X can find somebody better to play than Dayton. And as long as Mack is coaching the chances of playing them are slim. Scheduling another home and home vs. a team like Memphis or Gonzaga is a much better option. I know they're you #2 team so I understand why you want to play them though.
Then find somebody better, because the buy games that we did play didn't do shit. It kills me that people are so hung up on not playing Dayton, that they can't see that in this case it would have actually helped us out a lot.
I'd like to play Dayton, but not in any sort of meaningful season defining game. Virginia's season wasn't defined by losses to Green Bay and VCU. Those have pretty much faded completely into the background. No one remembers what West Virginia did against Marshall the years they made the Elite Eight and Final Four. No one remembers what we did against Ball State the year of the Run, or what we did against Miami the year of the second run. It would just be another game in a hostile environment that would look good to the committee if we won, and fade into nothingness if we didn't win. It would also ensure that we wouldn't have to play them in a tournament game that actually did mean something, much less possibly have to do it on their floor. Never has the UD game been the key defining moment in XU's season. (Well, maybe when David West dumped in 47pts, but that's it). If it wasn't the key defining during conference play, it sure as hell wouldn't be if it were an OOC games. If play them in the NCAA Tournament, holy shit. It couldn't possibly be more defining and more meaningful than that, and it would be very nice to avoid that.
The committee has said, many times, that they WILL put Dayton in Dayton for the First Four because a team should not be rewarded by not having to play in the First Four simply because they're hosting it. I believe them. I think it's completely naive to think that they would want to avoid a XU v UD game. I'm not going to go so far to say that they will go out of their way to schedule it, but they have absolutely no reason to avoid it. It's exactly the kind of game that they would want to schedule, really.
Caveat
03-16-2014, 12:12 PM
Would agree, except Xavier could have avoided it. If they receive it it's through no fault but their own. Can't complain since they lost to seton hall twice. How about a program like Xaviers takes the opponents we get, show them what we're about and still make a run. Playin game or not.
No matter how "bubble" they were, they'd never make a program like Kentucky or Duke participate in this "play-in" nonsense. I'd love Xavier to make waves and say "Our resume is our resume -- if we're not good enough to be in the real tournament, don't put us in."
Muskie
03-16-2014, 12:23 PM
I think people need to get over the perception that the Play in is not part of the tournament.
gladdenguy
03-16-2014, 12:32 PM
I think Xavier could definitely be in the play in game but the committee will not put Dayton there to play a home game. The Xavier vs Dayton game will not happen in the play in game. Now that is not gonna stop those pricks from coming to root against Xavier. They will be there in full force
xsteve1
03-16-2014, 12:36 PM
I think Xavier could definitely be in the play in game but the committee will not put Dayton there to play a home game. The Xavier vs Dayton game will not happen in the play in game. Now that is not gonna stop those pricks from coming to root against Xavier. They will be there in full force
Which is why X will not play them. When UDump played in the A10 tourney in Cincy you never saw that out of Xavier fans but when X played in the A10 tourney at the Dump with Dwest it was a flat out joke. The fact that they insulted the coaches wife last year and had to put Chris and the kids in a box for Christi Hester's (yes they even took off the Mack) HOF induction last week.
xavierj
03-16-2014, 12:41 PM
Then find somebody better, because the buy games that we did play didn't do shit. It kills me that people are so hung up on not playing Dayton, that they can't see that in this case it would have actually helped us out a lot.
I'd like to play Dayton, but not in any sort of meaningful season defining game. Virginia's season wasn't defined by losses to Green Bay and VCU. Those have pretty much faded completely into the background. No one remembers what West Virginia did against Marshall the years they made the Elite Eight and Final Four. No one remembers what we did against Ball State the year of the Run, or what we did against Miami the year of the second run. It would just be another game in a hostile environment that would look good to the committee if we won, and fade into nothingness if we didn't win. It would also ensure that we wouldn't have to play them in a tournament game that actually did mean something, much less possibly have to do it on their floor. Never has the UD game been the key defining moment in XU's season. (Well, maybe when David West dumped in 47pts, but that's it). If it wasn't the key defining during conference play, it sure as hell wouldn't be if it were an OOC games. If play them in the NCAA Tournament, holy shit. It couldn't possibly be more defining and more meaningful than that, and it would be very nice to avoid that.
The committee has said, many times, that they WILL put Dayton in Dayton for the First Four because a team should not be rewarded by not having to play in the First Four simply because they're hosting it. I believe them. I think it's completely naive to think that they would want to avoid a XU v UD game. I'm not going to go so far to say that they will go out of their way to schedule it, but they have absolutely no reason to avoid it. It's exactly the kind of game that they would want to schedule, really.
I think you need to move to Dayton and become a part of the red scare. Seriously Xavier plays a pretty good schedule each year, they do not need Dayton and every team plays buy games even Dayton.
XUFan09
03-16-2014, 12:50 PM
Here's a post (http://fromstaaktomack.wordpress.com/2014/03/16/xavier-loss-to-creighton-and-selection-sunday/) where I break down the Creighton game and then do a lengthy analysis of tournament projections for Xavier.
XUFan09
03-16-2014, 12:55 PM
I think you need to move to Dayton and become a part of the red scare. Seriously Xavier plays a pretty good schedule each year, they do not need Dayton and every team plays buy games even Dayton.
Eh, Xavier's non-conference schedule wasn't that great, just okay. Their non-conference SOS is ranked 90th. It would have been great to replace one of those buy games with a second road game. Then Xavier would have done exactly what the Selection Committee wants to see.
Xavier's overall SOS moves up between 9 and 14 slots by just dropping one of their buy games. That doesn't even account for the boost they would receive from just scheduling a top 100 team on the road.
xubrew
03-16-2014, 02:52 PM
I think you need to move to Dayton and become a part of the red scare. Seriously Xavier plays a pretty good schedule each year, they do not need Dayton and every team plays buy games even Dayton.
God your logic is dumb. That's like saying everyone on here who likes playing UC and wants it back on campus should buy UC season tickets, because wanting to play them obviously means they're diehard Bearcat fans and love Mick Cronin. Why else would they want to play that game, much less play it at UC??
Playing an NCAA team in an out of conference game is beneficial, especially if you're right on the cut line. The more chances you have, the better chance you have overall. That's pretty simple logic, really.
Dayton is an NCAA team. Not only are they an NCAA team, they're a team that we might have to play in the tournament that we wouldn't have had to had we played them during the year. I think playing them would have accomplished a lot.
xsteve1
03-16-2014, 03:00 PM
God your logic is dumb. That's like saying everyone on here who likes playing UC and wants it back on campus should buy UC season tickets, because wanting to play them obviously means they're diehard Bearcat fans and love Mick Cronin. Why else would they want to play that game, much less play it at UC??
Playing an NCAA team in an out of conference game is beneficial, especially if you're right on the cut line. The more chances you have, the better chance you have overall. That's pretty simple logic, really.
Dayton is an NCAA team. Not only are they an NCAA team, they're a team that we might have to play in the tournament that we wouldn't have had to had we played them during the year. I think playing them would have accomplished a lot.
I seriously doubt you'd have UC fans come out in force to root against X. UD fan's are obsessed with playing X. X has dominated their asses for the last 20 years. X doesn't need to put up with that crap that goes with playing UD up there. Move on, the series is over for awhile.
xubrew
03-16-2014, 03:04 PM
I seriously doubt you'd have UC fans come out in force to root against X. UD fan's are obsessed with playing X. X has dominated their asses for the last 20 years. X doesn't need to put up with that crap that goes with playing UD up there. Move on, the series is over for awhile.
I agree about the fans. XU fans seem equally as obsessed with not playing Dayton even when they're are obvious benefits to it.....like not having to play Dayton in the First Four or any other round prior to the Sweet Sixteen. And if we won, which we have been doing for the last twenty years, it would unquestionably make us look better than them in the eyes of the committee.
What kills me is that there OBVIOUS benefits to playing them. They're not necessities, but they are benefits. People just ignore it. And, when someone tries to point it out, everyone just assumes they must be a Dayton fan. I mean...talk about crazy, stupid thinking.
waggy
03-16-2014, 03:05 PM
, they're a team that we might have to play in the tournament that we wouldn't have had to had we played them during the year. .
lol
god your logic is dumb.
xubrew
03-16-2014, 03:16 PM
You do realize that there is a bylaw for the committee to avoid rematches, right??
waggy
03-16-2014, 03:23 PM
So X is supposed schedule dayton in the reg season so they can duck 'em in the tourney?
You. are. a. tool.
ThrowDownDBrown
03-16-2014, 03:33 PM
I'd rather schedule a team that makes the tourney more often then once a decade
xubrew
03-16-2014, 03:33 PM
So X is supposed schedule dayton in the reg season so they can duck 'em in the tourney?.
You think I'm I'm a tool because I want to eliminate the possibility of having to play Dayton on their floor during the NCAA Tournament??
Well, then, I guess you're going to think I'm a tool, because I don't want to play them on their floor during the NCAA Tournament. I'd rather not play them at all in the tournament if given the choice between them and someone else.
That's one of the reasons. It would be a good win, it wouldn't be a bad loss, it's a hostile environment that gets us ready for other hostile environments in the Big East, and yes, if we're ever both on the bubble, it eliminates any possibility of having to play them on their floor in the NCAA Tournament.
I'd rather not have to play Dayton during the tournament. At all. But, especially on their floor. If you lose in November and December, it sucks, but it's during a time when the spotlight on college basketball is dim. If you beat them, it doesn't matter too much as far as public perception goes, but at least it helps us on paper.
The tournament is a completely different animal. We'd lose more by losing to Dayton than we would by losing to virtually any other team, and we wouldn't gain anything by beating them than we wouldn't have gained by beating another team.
waggy
03-16-2014, 03:35 PM
You type too many words. FYI. And yes, you are a tool.
I agree about the fans. XU fans seem equally as obsessed with not playing Dayton even when they're are obvious benefits to it.....like not having to play Dayton in the First Four or any other round prior to the Sweet Sixteen. And if we won, which we have been doing for the last twenty years, it would unquestionably make us look better than them in the eyes of the committee.
What kills me is that there OBVIOUS benefits to playing them. They're not necessities, but they are benefits. People just ignore it. And, when someone tries to point it out, everyone just assumes they must be a Dayton fan. I mean...talk about crazy, stupid thinking.
No, people think you're a Dayton fan because you frequent UDPride and badmouth X fans while buddying up to Flyer fans while you're there.
xubrew
03-16-2014, 03:50 PM
No, people think you're a Dayton fan because you frequent UDPride and badmouth X fans while buddying up to Flyer fans while you're there.
I do frequent UD Pride. Just like this site, I know some of them. That's my reason for doing it. What's your reason for reading it??
I don't think I say anything over there that I don't say over here. How do I badmouth Xavier fans??
GoMuskies
03-16-2014, 03:52 PM
the committee will not put Dayton there to play a home game
If they're one of the last four, the Committee damned well better put them there! Dayton shouldn't benefit from hosting the play-in round by then getting to avoid having to play in it.
Muskie
03-16-2014, 04:00 PM
It would be a shame if I have to ban some posters for personal attacks on the eve of the tournament.
TUclutch
03-16-2014, 04:54 PM
Another way to avoid it would have been to play Dayton during the year in place of a buy game. We win and we're probably safely inside the First Four, and even if we lost and were in the First Four with Dayton, the committee would not pair us together because they avoid rematches in the first two rounds if possible. Unless we had played the other two teams in the First Four, we wouldn't be playing Dayton again.
I've wanted to play Dayton during the season, but not in the tournament, and especially not on their home court during the tournament, which is one of the reasons I wanted to play them during the year. I think Dayton is a little further in, but going to UD for the First Four isn't going to be fun even if we're not playing them. The allotments aren't as big for the First Four, which means more local fans, and in this case UD fans, will have already bought the tickets. The crowd will be against us even if we're not playing them.
Dayton won't come to Cintas and there is little benefit from going to Dayton.
TUclutch
03-16-2014, 04:57 PM
I think people need to get over the perception that the Play in is not part of the tournament.
This^ This is the tourney now folks. Get used to it. 68 teams is the actual tourney whether we prefer the 64 format or not.
I do frequent UD Pride. Just like this site, I know some of them. That's my reason for doing it. What's your reason for reading it??
I don't think I say anything over there that I don't say over here. How do I badmouth Xavier fans??
I have gone over there a handful of times when X was playing dayton and before this year to hear the latest on Kavanaugh when it came up in a conversation I had with my son. At least one of these few times there was some negativity from you toward X. Sorry; I meant to say the program, not the fans. I don't recall the topic, but I was tempted to call you out over here at the time but decided to just move on. Because I did say something and you disagree, I apologize for bringing it up. I know you have friends over there and I'm sure it's tough to avoid getting dragged into some of the discussions.
My main point is that people think you're a dayton fan because of the time you spend on udpride. I'm pretty sure you're the only X fan in the universe lobbying to play dayton.
LadyMuskie
03-16-2014, 05:20 PM
You think I'm I'm a tool because I want to eliminate the possibility of having to play Dayton on their floor during the NCAA Tournament??
Well, then, I guess you're going to think I'm a tool, because I don't want to play them on their floor during the NCAA Tournament. I'd rather not play them at all in the tournament if given the choice between them and someone else.
That's one of the reasons. It would be a good win, it wouldn't be a bad loss, it's a hostile environment that gets us ready for other hostile environments in the Big East, and yes, if we're ever both on the bubble, it eliminates any possibility of having to play them on their floor in the NCAA Tournament.
I'd rather not have to play Dayton during the tournament. At all. But, especially on their floor. If you lose in November and December, it sucks, but it's during a time when the spotlight on college basketball is dim. If you beat them, it doesn't matter too much as far as public perception goes, but at least it helps us on paper.
The tournament is a completely different animal. We'd lose more by losing to Dayton than we would by losing to virtually any other team, and we wouldn't gain anything by beating them than we wouldn't have gained by beating another team.
If we play dayton in dayton, then bring it on. If there is one team that is universally hated, and with good reason, by both the administration on Victory Parkway and X fans, it's dayton. If Mack is having a hard time motivating the team, playing dayton will do the trick. I'm not afraid to play dayton anywhere - even at their sewer treatment plant.
I do not want to schedule dayton during the year because, frankly, they're not good enough. I'd rather see us play VCU, St. Louis, St. Joe's, UMass or even The Presbyterian Blue Hose before we schedule dayton. That said, if they want to come back to Cincinnati for their yearly spanking, then okay. But, at the expense of sounding like Chris Mack did after the Nova game, we're better than traveling to dayton arena during the season. They wanna play, they come to Cintas.
XUFan09
03-16-2014, 05:21 PM
Not the only one. It would have been nice to play them this year, because even if we lost at their place instead of winning a buy game, we probably wouldn't be worrying about the possibility of a play-in game. And a win would have been a big deal for the resume.
The SOS bump would have been big, and the Selection Committee particularly cares about going on the road in the non-conference slate and thus would have probably rewarded us for our efforts. Also, I like the Dayton rivalry. I don't love it, but I like it. And Blackburn Review, as opposed to UD Pride, makes me not despise Dayton fans and actually enjoy them at times lol.
Personally, I would have loved to play St. Joe's this year, for the same reasons and also because I really like St. Joe's.
xubrew
03-16-2014, 05:25 PM
I have gone over there a handful of times when X was playing dayton and before this year to hear the latest on Kavanaugh when it came up in a conversation I had with my son. At least one of these few times there was some negativity from you toward X. Sorry; I meant to say the program, not the fans. I don't recall the topic, but I was tempted to call you out over here at the time but decided to just move on. Because I did say something and you disagree, I apologize for bringing it up. I know you have friends over there and I'm sure it's tough to avoid getting dragged into some of the discussions.
My main point is that people think you're a dayton fan because of the time you spend on udpride. I'm pretty sure you're the only X fan in the universe lobbying to play dayton.
I don't know specifically what you were talking about, but if I said it over there, then I probably said it over here too. If I didn't, then it wasn't because I wasn't willing to. It probably just never came up. I actually enjoy the dialogue, so I don't mind being called out. Just like everyone else, I'm not always right, and people disagreeing with me can change my mind once I see their point of view.
It's a double layer for me. I want to play teams that I feel would make us look good to the committee if we were to beat them. Especially if it's a team we're able to beat that the committee is likely to overvalue. With six Atlantic Ten teams looking like they're in, they're the textbook definition of a team I'd like to play. They're not the only ones. I think Ohio is going to be really good next year, potentially good enough to be inside the bubble, and I'd like to play them. Same with Louisiana Tech. Same with a few other teams. The selection committee consists mostly of people from small conferences, and they over-reward teams who play on the road. So, with that in mind, why not schedule road games against teams we can beat?? A road win is worth more than twice as much as a home win in every metric they use, including the RPI, so going 2-1 on the road is better than going 3-0 at home against the same three teams. It's actually 2.8 wins as opposed to just 1.8 wins once it's adjusted.
Dayton fits that description. Especially this year. Dayton was typically also the most electric the crowd ever got, so it's beneficial, and the fans get into it. To this day our fans seem more fixated on them. If we had played them and beaten them, we'd be much better off right now for having done it. I don't see much of a downside other than not getting to taunt them about how we are no longer playing them.
XUFan09
03-16-2014, 05:49 PM
Playing in a hostile environment is also good experience for a team, especially one like Xavier, who has a lot of young players.
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xsteve1
03-16-2014, 05:54 PM
Bleacher Report has X playing Green Bay in Dayton.
UCGRAD4X
03-16-2014, 06:13 PM
Bleacher Report has X playing Green Bay in Dayton.
That should end the discussion then.
Close the thread.
muskiefan82
03-16-2014, 06:22 PM
Or not.
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