Similar records that have made the dance

[OTRMUSKIE]

X is ranked 45 with a SOS of 20 8 top 100 2 top 50 and 3 bad losses. X got in two years ago at 21-12 with a RPI of 41 and SOS 36. Just to help us ease our minds or make this next week a little easier to swallow here are similar teams who made the dance the last few years. These are all at large bids. Only Marshall at 20-13 RPI 44 SOS 23 6 top 100 2 top 50 and 3 bad losses got left out with similar record. Dayton has been left out twice with a similar record but that was before the expansion. We should be fine even if we lose the first game in the BET. I will still be nervous come Sunday but hopefully this helps. FYI, I did promise a victory against Nova and that didn't turn out well :(

2013
Nova 19-13 RPI 52 SOS 22 8 top 100 wins 4 top 50 and 2 bad losses.
California 20-11 RPI 54 SOS 37 7 top 100 2 top 50 and 1 bad loss.

2012
Virginia 22-9 RPI 53 SOS 85 7 top 100 1 top 50 and 3 bad losses
South Florida 19-13 RPI 52 SOS 27 6 top 100 1 top 50 3 bad losses
Texas 20-13 RPI 51 SOS 19 4 top 100 1 top 50 2 bad losses

2011
USC 19-14 RPI 67 SOS 39 8 top 100 2 top 50 and 6 bad losses

2010
Minnesota 21-13 RPI 62 SOS 37 5 top 50 wins and 4 bad losses

2009
Arizona 19-13 RPI 62 SOS 34 10 top 100 3 top 50 and 1 bad loss

[Retire33]

Great perspective (feels like word of the day) on where things stand.

[LA Muskie]

All of that is great, but if we win a game in the BET I think most would have us in, while if we lose our first BET game we will have to overcome the facts that (i) our numbers will get worse from where they are today AND (ii) our 2nd best player likely won't be able to play. And that's not good for us.

[OTRMUSKIE]

I was listening to either Eddie and Tracy or Lance and I believe they had Mike Decoursey on and they asked if the committee will take injury into account. I believe he said the committee will not keep a team out because a player gets hurt. Also the conf tournament doesn't hurt your case it only can help it. I thought I heard that before from a so called expert or was it an Xpert? As long as a team doesn't pull a Rhode Island with Lamar Odem and goes on to win the BET we should be okay. If say Marquette, GTown, Prov or Johns goes on to win it then I can see X being left out. Pray no major upsets in the conf tournaments.

[xubrew]

X is ranked 45 with a SOS of 20 8 top 100 2 top 50 and 3 bad losses. X got in two years ago at 21-12 with a RPI of 41 and SOS 36. Just to help us ease our minds or make this next week a little easier to swallow here are similar teams who made the dance the last few years. These are all at large bids. Only Marshall at 20-13 RPI 44 SOS 23 6 top 100 2 top 50 and 3 bad losses got left out with similar record. Dayton has been left out twice with a similar record but that was before the expansion. We should be fine even if we lose the first game in the BET. I will still be nervous come Sunday but hopefully this helps. FYI, I did promise a victory against Nova and that didn't turn out well :(

2013
Nova 19-13 RPI 52 SOS 22 8 top 100 wins 4 top 50 and 2 bad losses.
California 20-11 RPI 54 SOS 37 7 top 100 2 top 50 and 1 bad loss.

2012
Virginia 22-9 RPI 53 SOS 85 7 top 100 1 top 50 and 3 bad losses
South Florida 19-13 RPI 52 SOS 27 6 top 100 1 top 50 3 bad losses
Texas 20-13 RPI 51 SOS 19 4 top 100 1 top 50 2 bad losses

2011
USC 19-14 RPI 67 SOS 39 8 top 100 2 top 50 and 6 bad losses

2010
Minnesota 21-13 RPI 62 SOS 37 5 top 50 wins and 4 bad losses

2009
Arizona 19-13 RPI 62 SOS 34 10 top 100 3 top 50 and 1 bad loss

Nova was 8-10 in games away from home in 2013.

Cal was 10-7 in games away from home in 2013.

Virginia was 9-7 in games away from home in 2012

South Florida was 8-12 in games away from home in 2012, and was injured for much of the season

Texas was 5-11 in games away from home

USC was without their best player for nearly all of their bad losses, and they were 7-11 in games away from home, and they barely got in.

Minnesota was 7-11 in games away from home in 2010

Arizona was 7-8 in games away from home in 2009.

We're worse away from home than all those teams at the moment, and the teams we have beaten aren't nearly as good as the teams you mentioned beat.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Brew this thread was to help us get through the week not make it tougher. I went from cloud 9 to cloud zero, thanks! :chokeout:

[xubrew]

Recent committees have pretty much shown that they want to see road wins. top 50 and top 100 wins are good, but teams who's only good wins have been at home against conference opponents are the teams that recent committees have left out.

You can't really predict what a committee of people are going to do, but if recent history is an indicator of the present, they want to see road wins. Just sayin...

[XUFan09]

I was listening to either Eddie and Tracy or Lance and I believe they had Mike Decoursey on and they asked if the committee will take injury into account. I believe he said the committee will not keep a team out because a player gets hurt. Also the conf tournament doesn't hurt your case it only can help it. I thought I heard that before from a so called expert or was it an Xpert? As long as a team doesn't pull a Rhode Island with Lamar Odem and goes on to win the BET we should be okay. If say Marquette, GTown, Prov or Johns goes on to win it then I can see X being left out. Pray no major upsets in the conf tournaments.

He's wrong. I just hope it doesn't happen with Xavier. Losing to the #6 team in the country by only 7 shows that Xavier isn't a fundamentally different team, which is good, but considering that Xavier will face a bubble team in the first round, they probably have to win to prove they can play without Stainbrook.

[THRILLHOUSE]

I agree with Brew. If X misses the dance it will be due to the bad road record. I think if X wins Thursday at worst they will be one of the last 4 in, win 2 games then should be a lock for the main field. Lose Thursday, NIT bound.

[???]

The XU bubble has not burst but they need two conference tourney wins to breathe easy on Selection Sunday. You have to look at the last 10 games, the stainbrook injury is huge and will be considered regardless of what anyone wants to think. XU has been pretty bad away from home and have two key victories with more key losses. They are capable of making a run if Stainbrook gets back on the floor. If not, they may have some trouble. They still play hard though and are a pretty tough team too. Right now they are a last four-8 out.