Welcome March Madness

[xu82]

I'd like to beat Creighton so I never hear Xavier and bubble coming out of some talking head's mouth in the same sentence ever again.

From your fingers to God's ...... Godliness (?)

[xsteve1]

Georgia Tech loses. Let's see if Bobo get's the ax out.

[Masterofreality]

Somehow they ended up in the top 20. I would love to see X draw them next week.

Memphis lost by NINETEEN.....AT HOME! Really, how the hell do writers keep getting whoo dooed by Memphis?

[The_Mack_Pack]

Memphis lost by NINETEEN.....AT HOME! Really, how the hell do writers keep getting whoo dooed by Memphis?

Because Josh Pastner is just so precious and is such a good guy. Plus he came from the coaching LEGEND, and the almighty prophet himself, John Calipari.

[paulxu]

What did our RPI move to after tonight's game?

[Masterofreality]

What did our RPI move to after tonight's game?

Live RPI has us at 46 now. Would help if Stanford loses tonight. SMU is down to 53 now.

[xubrew]

I've shared these videos before, but for the first 30 mins they talk about the selection process, and about 17 mins in you see a replica of the board they use. That is pretty much exactly what the board the committee uses looks like....

http://hoopshd.com/2014/03/14/conference-tournament-video-notebook-viewing-guide-and-survival-board-friday-march-14/

[The_Mack_Pack]

A couple of quotes from Shabazz Napier from last night:

Napier on why they've shot so well here. "I don't think it's the building, I think it's how Memphis plays defense."

Shabazz Napier on Kilpatrick: "He cares so much about that MVP. ... I don't care about it. If he wants it, he can have it."

I think I found a new favorite non-Xavier player.

[xubrew]

A couple of quotes from Shabazz Napier from last night:

Napier on why they've shot so well here. "I don't think it's the building, I think it's how Memphis plays defense."

Shabazz Napier on Kilpatrick: "He cares so much about that MVP. ... I don't care about it. If he wants it, he can have it."

I think I found a new favorite non-Xavier player.


That's incredible.

[xubrew]

Bonnies up five on SLU with about 9 mins to go.

[The_Mack_Pack]

A first round matchup with SLU would be alright with me.

[xubrew]

We don't need Illinois to continue to rack up big wins.

[Masterofreality]

Still fun watching hoops today.

Mark Schmidt and Bonnies beating St. Louis right now with 2:40....errr edit...tied with 2:25 to play.

Virginia taking down Fla State it appears with about 3 to go...up 14.

[xubrew]

I seriously doubt Kentucky will win the SEC. So, if Florida can't get past Mizzou, a bid will be stolen.

[xu82]

I seriously doubt Kentucky will win the SEC. So, if Florida can't get past Mizzou, a bid will be stolen.

At the Florida game now. I don't know who's going to win, but not surprisingly PACKED with Kentucky fans! And they don't play until tonight. They sure do travel well. What else do they have, I guess?

[Masterofreality]

Illinois goes down by only one to Michigan. No bid stealer there.

[X-Fan]

Illinois goes down by only one to Michigan. No bid stealer there.
Wow, Illinois blew that one. Had a point blank look at the rim with 1 sec to go and just short armed the half-floater. Wow!

[BMoreX]

Bonnies buzzer beater!!

[Masterofreality]

Bonnie's knock off St. Louis on a buzzer beater! Uh, oh, St. Joes and dump.

[xubrew]

Illinois got a good look, but missed a shot at the buzzer that would have won the game.

Saint Bonaventure waited too long to get into their offense, got a haphazard look, and drilled it at the buzzer.

The winner of Joe's v Dayton will probably take down Bona in the semis.

[The_Mack_Pack]

Bye bye SLU. Have fun in the 8/9 game.

[whiteyxu]

Huge buzzer beater to win it for St. Bonaventure. Crazy game.

[Masterofreality]

Good bye Florida State!

They were just behind Providence in the RPI.

[xubrew]

If Kansas is a #2 seed, and SLU is a #7, and the games are in Saint Louis, I bet SLU will have fun.

[kyxu]

Bye bye SLU. Have fun in the 8/9 game.

St. Louis is a fraud. Cannot say it enough. One of the biggest frauds in college basketball.

[OTRMUSKIE]

The whole A-10 is a fraud. They are going to get 6 teams in and the best seeded team will be a 9. They will go 0-6 in the dance.

[Masterofreality]

The whole A-10 is a fraud. They are going to get 6 teams in and the best seeded team will be a 9. They will go 0-6 in the dance.

Nope. no more than 5. St. Joes/Cryers is a play in game.

Pomeroy tells you that.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Nope. no more than 5. St. Joes/Cryers is a play in game.

Pomeroy tells you that.

I hope your right. It would make my day to see Dayton get left out after all their smack talk about The Big East. I think they are in no matter what though.

[GoMuskies]

SLU has completely fallen apart.

[xu82]

Speaking of falling apart, Missouri was tied at the half and scored only 9 points through the first 15 minutes of the second half. Got ugly fast!

[Masterofreality]

Florida stretching it out on Mizzou now by 17. Mizzou isn't bad on RPI (49) but bad on Pomeroy (69).

Can't see more than 3 SEC teams in. Ky, Fla, Tennessee.

[The_Mack_Pack]

Frank Haith was a really bad hire. He won that first year with Mike Anderson's players who anyone could've won with. He won last year with already proven transfers. This Missouri team is more his style. He'll have that program at an NIT level like he had at Miami(FL)

[vee4xu]

tOSU is getting sckrocked by Neb.

[Masterofreality]

tOSU is getting sckrocked by Neb.

Craft's shot (lack thereof) is being badly exposed.

[Masterofreality]

Langston Galloway is absolutely torching udump.

[xubrew]

tOSU is getting sckrocked by Neb.

God created the Earth in seven days. Tim Miles would have done it in five.

[paulxu]

Is Roy resting his guys for the dance?

[xubrew]

Nebraska is completely falling apart.

[Masterofreality]

Galloway with the Jordan-esque push off and big step back 3!

Get ready for a make up call.

[mistabeecee41]

Galloway with the Jordan-esque push off and big step back 3!

Get ready for a make up call.

nope. Oliver jacks up a contested 3 instead of driving.

[Masterofreality]

Ha! The Cryers didn't give the refs a chance for the make up!

[kyxu]

So does this mean Dayton gets to play in front of their home crowd as a last four in?

[whiteyxu]

The refs blew a similarly horrible call in the SLU-SBU game. Jordair Jett got fouled by 2 guys on his way to the basket, and then the Bonnies hit a wide open 3 while on a 5-4 advantage. I know it's pretty common for refs to swallow their whistles at the end of a game, but those are two plays that completely change the games if they are called correctly.

[xubrew]

I think Joe's needed that a lot more than Dayton. I think Dayton's pretty safe.

[vee4xu]

tOSU is getting sckrocked by Neb.

Never mind.

[vee4xu]

I think Joe's needed that a lot more than Dayton. I think Dayton's pretty safe.

Lunardi had them both on the last four in and reporter called it a play in game. Too bad it wasn't in dayton. They may get a shot at that yet, though.

[Masterofreality]

I think Joe's needed that a lot more than Dayton. I think Dayton's pretty safe.

Not by the numbers.

A) They finished 6th in the A-10.
B) Their SOS is weak.
C) Pomeroy going in was 52..10 below us and 3 below Providence.
D) Sagarin rating is 56.

Not overly good, especially when the Committee looks inside the team sheets and sees that St. Joes won all 3 games against them. Their only hope is if UMess loses tonight.

[ChicagoX]

If the selection committee decides that the A10 is only getting five bids, Dayton could end up getting the short end of the stick. SLU, VCU, GW and UMass are all locks and I think SJU just punched their ticket after going 3-0 against the Cryers this season. If there is one team from the A10 who gets left out, it will be UD.

[Milhouse]

Dayton gonna Dayton

[xubrew]

Lunardi had them both on the last four in and reporter called it a play in game. Too bad it wasn't in dayton. They may get a shot at that yet, though.

This is not the first time I've disagreed with Lunardi. I think he's wrong.


Not by the numbers.

A) They finished 6th in the A-10.
B) Their SOS is weak.
C) Pomeroy going in was 52..10 below us and 3 below Providence.
D) Sagarin rating is 56.

Not overly good, especially when the Committee looks inside the team sheets and sees that St. Joes won all 3 games against them. Their only hope is if UMess loses tonight.

UD has done exactly what the committee says teams are supposed to do. They played away from home, and won away from home. They have wins against Gonzaga who's in the field, Saint Louis who's in the field and Cal who is on the bubble away from home. They won a total of ten games away from home. When you look at the selections of the last three years, especially when it comes to the bubble teams, wins away from home is clearly the biggest point of emphasis. No one else on the bubble has done as much away from home as Dayton. I really don't even think they're on the bubble.

[Masterofreality]

No way the 6th ranked conference, that plays the RPI game, gets 6 teams in, especially when the 2nd ranked league (B1G) will only get 6 and the ACC gets 5.

No......way. No how.

[Masterofreality]

It NEVER gets old seeing lapdog faced Cryer fans leaving after another gut wrenching loss.

I'm sure they'll blame the refs. In this case, they're right.

[xsteve1]

Glad to see the Flyers lose, sorry Brew. They'll still get in probably in the play in game. Galloway got help from the ref's against Xavier in last years A10 tournament as well on the last possession.

[xubrew]

No way the 6th ranked conference, that plays the RPI game, gets 6 teams in, especially when the 2nd ranked league (B1G) will only get 6 and the ACC gets 5.

No......way. No how.

Keep telling yourself that, MOR.

They played the RPI game by playing on the road, which is what the committee said they valued, which is why I think they will get six.

[The_Mack_Pack]

The Tennessee - Florida game tomorrow could be a really good one.

[Masterofreality]

Keep telling yourself that, MOR.

They played the RPI game by playing on the road, which is what the committee said they valued, which is why I think they will get six.

You...will...see. Maybe that school up north gets in, but not 6 A-10 teams.

Edit. I'll give you one caveat...that is that the A10 steals SMU's bid. But if Minnesota wins tonight...well....

[Pablo's Brother]

I was driving back from CVG (saw the game last night at MSG) and was listening to the last seconds of the UD game on WHIO. I said a little prayer to my brother (Pablo): "C'mon Brian, please help UD lose." I thought: "Man, that is not really Christian, praying for them to lose." Then, I said "I don't care, I want them to lose bad and so would my brother."

I then listened to the homers on WHIO describe the push-off, Galloway hitting the three, the no call and then three minutes of non-stop CRYING/blaming the refs about "what a terrible way to lose." FREAKIN' GLORIOUS!

I so hope UD does not get in to the NCAA's. I don't care if it was true - and the refs screwed them - this is why UD is UD! Thanks to the Academy, Pablo and of course Xavier going to the NCAA's while UD cries (again) about the refs and subsequent NIT bid.

GLORIOUS, I tell you GLORIOUS!

[xsteve1]

St. Joe's being an NCAA team is laughable as well. They really aren't very good and their resume is weak. They are going to be absolute garbage next year.

[xavierj]

Man how bad has st. Louis been these past few weeks? Their stock is dropping like a lead balloon. That weak non conference schedule is going to kill them.

[OTRMUSKIE]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ylHWi_Jfcmc/UyNnhUiFqJI/AAAAAAAAFpM/cZipVDBXNyA/s1600/ENDGAME.gif

[xubrew]

Man how bad has st. Louis been these past few weeks? Their stock is dropping like a lead balloon. That weak non conference schedule is going to kill them.

I have a feeling they're going to get placed in Saint Louis, which would be absurd, but is within the rules.

[xavierj]

I have a feeling they're going to get placed in Saint Louis, which would be absurd, but is within the rules.

what are you thinking, 10 or 11 seed?

[xubrew]

St. Joe's being an NCAA team is laughable as well. They really aren't very good and their resume is weak. They are going to be absolute garbage next year.

Here are the teams that were seeded #10, #11 and #12 last year, and what their records were away from home. Essentially, these are teams that ended up inside the bubble.

-Oklahoma 8-10
-Minnesota - 6-11
-Akron - 11-6
-Iowa State - 7-11
-Belmont - 12-7 (the fact that they were seeded two lines better than the final at-large teams indicates they would have gotten in without winning the conference tournament
-Ole Miss - 11-8
-Boise State - 7-10
-La Salle - 11-8
-Boise State - 7-10
-Colorado - 9-9
-Bucknell - 13-5
-Cal - 10-7
-Cincinnati - 9-7
-Middle Tennessee - 12-6
-Saint Mary's - 12-6

Notice a pattern?? With the exception of Cincinnati, they all played more than half their games away from home, and they all managed to win a decent amount of them.

So, when I see Saint Joe's at 11-5, with 8 true road wins, and another game away from home coming tomorrow, I think they fit the profile of the kinds of teams the committee has been taking. You may think they're a joke, and I won't disagree with you, but I still think the committee will take them.

Same with Dayton, who is 10-6, and has some really good wins away from home.

The trend is blatantly obvious. Whether you think it should happen or not doesn't really matter because we don't get a vote. The committee has a fetish for those types of profiles.

We're 6-9 away from home, BTW, and our wins aren't as good as they need to be. I think we REALLY need to win tonight.

[xubrew]

SFA is in big trouble. They may be the first 29 win team to ever miss the field. And, they shouldn't be in.

[xubrew]

what are you thinking, 10 or 11 seed?

I'm actually thinking they'll get a #7

[xsteve1]

SFA is in big trouble. They may be the first 29 win team to ever miss the field. And, they shouldn't be in.

Six Million Dollar man came back and won.

[xubrew]

Louisiana Tech is doing unspeakably horrible things to Southern Miss right now.

I hope they get in, but don't think they will unless they win tomorrow. They're pretty good.

[X-band '01]

Man how bad has st. Louis been these past few weeks? Their stock is dropping like a lead balloon. That weak non conference schedule is going to kill them.

They're tanking just to wind up in a subregion with Kansas. Winning at UMass was a perfect cover.


I have a feeling they're going to get placed in Saint Louis, which would be absurd, but is within the rules.

As you yourself have said, Top 4 seeds are designed to be protected for their first game, not subsequent games.

[Masterofreality]

And you can kiss Minnesota.......GoodBYE!!!!!!

Blown out by Wisky

[xsteve1]

Overrated Syracuse is losing to NC State. Not sure who's had a worse last 3 weeks, them or St. Louis.

[X-band '01]

Clearly Louisville is bent about losing a coin toss to UC. Up 22 on Houston in the 2nd half.

[X-band '01]

Overrated Syracuse is losing to NC State. Not sure who's had a worse last 3 weeks, them or St. Louis.

Clearly it's going to be related to playing in Greensboro instead of their precious Garden. I hope they enjoy their scintillating football matchups with Pitt and the NC schools.

[Masterofreality]

Clearly Louisville is bent about losing a coin toss to UC. Up 22 on Houston in the 2nd half.

Amazing how many are wearing the same "Upholstery Blue" in the stands at the AAC Tournament.

[xubrew]

The end of Syracuse v NC State is fantastic!!!

Syracuse needed a three to tie. They air balled about five threes, but kept getting the rebound, and kept air balling. It was fantastic!!!!

[GoMuskies]

Louisville is going to end up getting the fourth #1 seed.

[Masterofreality]

Look out, UMess. Down by 11 with 7 to go in the first half to GW.

[xsteve1]

Look out, UMess. Down by 11 with 7 to go in the first half to GW.

UMass should be on the bubble. Down 10 to GW late. Make that 16. They'll have a short lived tourney.

[Masterofreality]

Now GW is up 16. Derek Kellogg has a raft full of Seniors...and is still a horrible coach.

[SM#24]

UCLA sure is playing well lately.

[Masterofreality]

Last nite attendance:
BE-15580, AAC-11888, A10-8755, ACC-21533, MW-15135, B12-18972, SEC N/A, B10 N/A.

So, the AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC was the second lowest attended of the "Power Leagues". Exactly who should the Requiem be for ESPN?

[xavierj]

Last nite attendance:
BE-15580, AAC-11888, A10-8755, ACC-21533, MW-15135, B12-18972, SEC N/A, B10 N/A.

So, the AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC was the second lowest attended of the "Power Leagues". Exactly who should the Requiem be for ESPN?

Can you imagine what that number would have been had Louisville not been playing yesterday? Wait until next year when Louisville is gone, they will have A-10 tourney type attendance, if that.

[Masterofreality]

Aresco is now talking about moving the AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC Tournament around to different cities.

Yeah, because it has worked so well for the Atlantic 10.

[xubrew]

Dozens are packed into the Don Haskins Center to watch the CUSA Championship game.

This conference is such a tire fire. It's a sixteen team bloated monstrosity. The TV deal is a joke with a lot of games being on CSS, which almost no one gets. They can't get a decent deal for the tournament, so if you want to watch the opening rounds and quarterfinals (which no one does) you have to pay for it. Just putting it on YouTube for free would be a better idea because at least a few more people would be likely to watch.

They put the tournament at the least centrally located school, they play the game at 9:30am, and will probably get crushed in the ratings by Saturday morning cartoons. And, they wonder why the league isn't doing well.

What's unfortunate is that LA Tech is a pretty good team, and Tulsa has been playing well, so it will actually likely be a good game between two teams who could conceivably get out of hte round of 64. But, no one is watching, and I don't blame them.

[xubrew]

Great atmosphere at Stony Brook.

I love these type of games. I have such a huge soft spot for the so-called "low-majors." People laugh because they'll come over during the season, and instead of watching the power conferences I'm tuned in to the Patriot or America East or Summit League games. There are less than 2000 people there, but it's a fantastic atmosphere in an arena that isn't much bigger than an auxiliary gym.

[The_Mack_Pack]

Great comeback again for the Buckeyes. Up 1 at the under 8 minute mark.

[paulxu]

I saw a bunch of shirts that said "the Wolverine Way."
I sure hope no one from Butler was watching.

[Masterofreality]

@SethDavisHoops: Hmmm RT @gashaheen: Someone needs to say it: wonder if committee is wary of SMUs resume: Top 100 Ws, early tourn loss, NCSOS

[XUFan09]

I love Brian Snow's tweet about how they have as many top 100 wins as Seton Hall.

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[GoMuskies]

Aaron Craft sucks.

[THRILLHOUSE]

Aaron Craft sucks.

gonna need a gif of that last shot attempt STAT!

[XUFan09]

When someone on Scout expressed a concern with Dee being able to hang in with Craft if X happened to be matched up with OSU, I actually laughed. Regardless of Dee's flaws, that is not a match-up that would worry me.

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[THRILLHOUSE]

and here is that wonderful Craft shot:

http://cdn2.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/LOL-CRAFT.gif

[xubrew]

Jimmy Dykes is really impressed with Kentucky. They've opened on a seven point lead on Georgia.

Georgia.

Seven point lead.

Jimmy Dykes is talking like it's the greatest performance he's ever seen.

Umm.....okay.

[xubrew]

Prairie View lost 22 games during the regular season, which would be the most ever for a team that's made the NCAA Tournament.

Their RPI is 301.

Unfortunately, they will probably land in the top 300 if they win today. They have a halftime lead.

This team was even worse last year, and lost at the buzzer of the championship game.

[waggy]

Tried to watch some of the SEC yesterday and had to turn if off because of Dykes.

[Masterofreality]

Tried to watch some of the SEC yesterday and had to turn if off because of Dykes.

Dykes is a total SEC honk, but he has always been good to Xavier. He's always given us solid props. I have no problem with him at all.

[waggy]

I'm getting old MOR. Not as old as you, but pretty old.

[waggy]

Last few minutes of the PAC 12 final have been wild, wild, wild.

[xsteve1]

Wow. Maybe Alford was the right choice at UCLA. He did a heck of a job this year.

[waggy]

Kyle Anderson wins MOP of the PAC 12 tourney, and they hand him a trophy tinier than what I won pee-wee bball.

[xsteve1]

Kyle Anderson wins MOP of the PAC 12 tourney, and they hand him a trophy tinier than what I won pee-wee bball.

Yeah, That was pretty weak.

[Masterofreality]

No bid stealers left, folks.

Put Xavier in as a Lock.

[xubrew]

After putting together a list of teams, I do now think that Xavier is going to make it. I wouldn't call them a lock because a case could be made to leave them out, but I do think they'll get in.

[waggy]

That's great to hear "XU"Brew. I don't know if I'd been able to sleep tonight if you hadn't posted that. Whew!!!

[Masterofreality]

That's great to hear "XU"Brew. I don't know if I'd been able to sleep tonight if you hadn't posted that. Whew!!!

Ah, Brew's a real fan. Just a bit less optimistic than the rest of us. :jig:

[waggy]

He's a phrooot phukker if you ask me. Just in the last 24 hrs he's cried about the BE touney not being on network. Cried about the Big Name. And claimed that dayton is a 7 seed.

[xubrew]

Well, I admire your enthusiasm for Xavier, but not that you don't seem to be all that smart, so I guess that makes us even.

Actually, I've wanted Fox to put the semis and championship game on their flagship network, and saying that people will compare the league to the old Big East and overlook how good the league really is, for a lot longer than just the past 24 hrs. I don't know how wanting more exposure on a free to air network and not liking always being compared to the old Big East disqualifies me from being a real fan.

I also feel Xavier would have been much better off had they won more games away from home. Most people seem to get mad whenever I say that. I'm not sure why you forgot to mention that.

I never said UD was a #7 seed, but I do think they're safely in. I also think the Atlantic Ten is getting six teams. We'll see if I'm right tomorrow.

[waggy]

I don't necessarily disagree on the road results, and in fact wished they had played at least one more road game OOC, and am definitely on record of that way back. But X has enough positives on their resume that there is zero point (unless you have an agenda) to go looking for reasons to keep them.

Glad you liked MY list.

[LadyMuskie]

I love Xavier, but I'm with Brew. Having watched the Big Ten Tourney today, and CBS's interview with the committee member, I'm worried. He made it clear that the conference tournament play was important this year because so many teams are on the cusp, share similar resumes, and that winning that one more game in the conference tourney gives the committee one more chance to see you play, gives you one more chance to beat a top RPI team, etc. I think there are going to be a lot of disappointed teams tomorrow, and I just hope and pray Xavier isn't one of them. I won't be surprised if we don't see our name on a line tomorrow night.

[xubrew]

An agenda?? Yes, this is where I come for all of my life's agendas. It's the most effective way to see to it that all objectives are met.

[xubrew]

Cal Poly is playing for the right to be the worst team in the tournament.

[xavierj]

I love Xavier, but I'm with Brew. Having watched the Big Ten Tourney today, and CBS's interview with the committee member, I'm worried. He made it clear that the conference tournament play was important this year because so many teams are on the cusp, share similar resumes, and that winning that one more game in the conference tourney gives the committee one more chance to see you play, gives you one more chance to beat a top RPI team, etc. I think there are going to be a lot of disappointed teams tomorrow, and I just hope and pray Xavier isn't one of them. I won't be surprised if we don't see our name on a line tomorrow night.

Well xavier did do that. They beat Marquette and then wore Creighton out for Providence. Many of the teams similar to Xavier lost the first game.

[The_Mack_Pack]

I have a feeling one of Green Bay, Louisiana Tech, Toledo, or Southern Miss gets a bid and a team like SMU or Nebraska get left out for not doing anything in non-con.

[Masterofreality]

I have a feeling one of Green Bay, Louisiana Tech, Toledo, or Southern Miss gets a bid and a team like SMU or Nebraska get left out for not doing anything in non-con.

SMU yeah. Nebraska nah.

[xavierj]

The problem with Toledo is their best win is against a team with an 80 RPI. Not going to happen. My bet is that Southern Miss and NC State make it.

[paulxu]

I'm going with Dance Card until they're wrong.

http://www.unf.edu/~jcoleman/dance.htm

[xubrew]

I have a feeling one of Green Bay, Louisiana Tech, Toledo, or Southern Miss gets a bid and a team like SMU or Nebraska get left out for not doing anything in non-con.

Green Bay is clearly the best team on that list.


The problem with Toledo is their best win is against a team with an 80 RPI. Not going to happen. My bet is that Southern Miss and NC State make it.

Toledo also wasn't the overall first place team, so the committee is far less likely to forgive a loss in the conference tournament.

I don't know if the committee would take Belmont or not, but I think they'd like them more than Toledo. I could make a case for Louisiana Tech and Southern Miss if I really had to. LA Tech was without their best player for some of their losses (but Belmont was without two starters for some of theirs, so...), and Southern Miss did win a big road game against North Dakota State, but it's still a very hard sell.

[xubrew]

DAMNIT Georgia State!!!

[waggy]

Galloway is one of those players that could go off in the tourney.

[XUFan09]

Galloway is one of those players that could go off in the tourney.

I would love to see that.

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[xsteve1]

Happy for Phil. Especially with what he's losing.

[xubrew]

Well if Joe's was in the First Four, they're not now.

[The_Mack_Pack]

Gotta like Martelli.

[XUFan09]

Well if Joe's was in the First Four, they're not now.

Nope.

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[xubrew]

Gotta like Martelli.

I like him, but that doesn't mean I wanted them to win.

[X-band '01]

10 years after he called out Billy Packer on Selection Sunday, what will he say today?

[XUFan09]

Happy for Phil. Especially with what he's losing.

I just wish he could recruit consistently to support his coaching ability. St. Joe's is one of the teams I root for in the A10.

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[xubrew]

How many years in a row has the best team in the Sun Belt failed to win the SBC Tournament??

[XUFan09]

How many years in a row has the best team in the Sun Belt failed to win the SBC Tournament??

You'll have to tell us lol.

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[X-band '01]

Depends on if we're talking about the conference named the Sun Belt or whether we're talking about a conference (C-USA) full of former Sun Belt members.

[mohr5150]

I am very happy for Phil and St. Joe's. I usually am a fan of the Hawks when we aren't playing them. Phil seems like a class guy who tries to do things the right way.

[xsteve1]

I just wish he could recruit consistently to support his coaching ability. St. Joe's is one of the teams I root for in the A10.

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He's in a tough spot competing with teams like Nova, Pitt, St. Johns etc. and it's got to be tough to recruit kids to play in a 4,000 seat facility

[The_Mack_Pack]

This video of his grandson imitating him is awesome:

http://deadspin.com/phil-martellis-four-year-old-grandson-is-a-mini-basket-1545049794?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitte r&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

[xubrew]

I am very happy for Phil and St. Joe's. I usually am a fan of the Hawks when we aren't playing them. Phil seems like a class guy who tries to do things the right way.

Lets play them. I'm in favor. If we had, we'd have probably beaten them, and that would be really nice right about now.

If we don't get in, I'm going to be pissed. I think we will. I won't be surprised if we don't, though. I will be pissed if we don't, though.



In other news, Dough Gotleib just said something that I completely agree with. That's scary. He said you have to be really physical when you play Duke, and I think he's right. I don't know if I've ever agreed with anything I've ever heard Doug Gotleib say.

[xubrew]

This video of his grandson imitating him is awesome:

http://deadspin.com/phil-martellis-four-year-old-grandson-is-a-mini-basket-1545049794?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitte r&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

I saw that during the game and died. That's just all kinds of classic.

I am happy for them, but I didn't want them to win and insure themselves a spot inside the First Four. I'm selfish like that.

[X-band '01]

With Virginia winning the ACC double, do they go East (and lock Duke and Syracuse out of the region) or do they go to the South with Florida? They may have an outside shot at a 1 seed.

[xsteve1]

I like Tony Bennett and think he's done a unbelievable job but Virginia just doesn't pass the eye test. I'll really be surprised if they even get to or past the sweet 16.

[GoMuskies]

Clark Kellogg: "teams get NCAA Tournament bids, not conferences". I feel sort of dirty agreeing with him, but Amen, Clark.

[Masterofreality]

I love seeing "Havoc" lose....always.

[Masterofreality]

I like Tony Bennett and think he's done a unbelievable job but Virginia just doesn't pass the eye test. I'll really be surprised if they even get to or past the sweet 16.

Not great offensively..but REALLY good defensively. They sure pass the D eye test.

[xubrew]

Michigan won the two regular season games, but with this blowout I think Michigan state won the combined aggregate score.

[Masterofreality]

Slimy Calamari with another great end game play design. #Not

[xubrew]

The official s-curve:

1.
Florida
2.
Arizona
3.
Wichita St.
4.
Virginia
5.
Villanova
6.
Michigan
7.
Kansas
8.
Wisconsin
9.
Duke
10.
Syracuse
11.
Creighton
12.
Iowa St.
13.
Louisville
14.
Michigan St.
15.
UCLA
16.
San Diego St.
17.
Cincinnati
18.
Saint Louis
19.
VCU
20.
Oklahoma
21.
North Carolina
22.
Ohio St.
23.
Massachusetts
24.
Baylor
25.
Texas
26.
UConn
27.
Oregon
28.
New Mexico
29.
Kentucky
30.
Gonzaga
31.
Memphis
32.
Colorado
33.
Kansas St.
34.
George Washington
35.
Oklahoma St.
36.
Pittsburgh
37.
Stanford
38.
Saint Joseph's
39.
BYU
40.
Arizona St.
41.
Dayton
42.
Nebraska
43.
Providence
44.
Tennessee
45.
Iowa
46.
Xavier
47.
North Carolina St.
48.
North Dakota St.
49.
Harvard
50.
Stephen F. Austin
51.
Manhattan
52.
Tulsa
53.
New Mexico St.
54.
Delaware
55.
Western Mich.
56.
Mercer
57.
La.-Lafayette
58.
N.C. Central
59.
Eastern Ky.
60.
Milwaukee
61.
Wofford
62.
American
63.
Coastal Caro.
64.
Weber St.
65.
Mt. St. Mary's
66.
Albany (NY)
67.
Texas Southern
68.
Cal Poly

[BandAid]

Go home selection committee. You're drunk.

[xubrew]

Go home selection committee. You're drunk.

Yes. They were. I thought they would be. And people say I'm overly pessimistic. Oh well. We're in. Sort of.

[GoMuskies]

Ron Wellman sucks at life.

[paulxu]

Go, help me understand something basic. (I probably have a mental block on it)

If 4 of the bottom conference winners on the S curve deal fight it out in Dayton for two 16 seeds, and the last four at large teams fight it out for two 12 seeds, then winning a conference still can leave you in Dayton (the bottom 4 playing for a 16). Why don't they have all the Dayton games for the bottom conference winners? So the 8 teams on the bottom of that S curve deal would be in Dayton playing for the four 16 seeds?

(Sorry if this has been covered before)

[waggy]

Because no one really cares to watch a bunch of 16 seeds play each other. I think that's what your asking. It's basically marketing/getting some eyeballs with better programs.

[xubrew]

Go, help me understand something basic. (I probably have a mental block on it)

If 4 of the bottom conference winners on the S curve deal fight it out in Dayton for two 16 seeds, and the last four at large teams fight it out for two 12 seeds, then winning a conference still can leave you in Dayton (the bottom 4 playing for a 16). Why don't they have all the Dayton games for the bottom conference winners? So the 8 teams on the bottom of that S curve deal would be in Dayton playing for the four 16 seeds?

(Sorry if this has been covered before)

I think that should be the format. I don't know how to answer your question other than to say they're not very smart.

why do it in Dayton?? Why not have the #16v#17 seeds in the cities where the #1 seeds are playing??

Or, why not just play it at campus sites, so the #16 seeds can get a home game, and the few people who actually give a shit about the game, could actually easily get to the game??

[GoMuskies]

Just sort of how the deal evolved. First it was one play in game between the two worst 16 seeds to accommodate the WAC/Mountain West split that added a new auto bid without taking away any at-large bids. Then they talked about expanding the Tournament to add more at-large teams (the expansion would have been to 96), and the current set-up was a compromise. Three extra teams in the Tournament (from 65 to 68), but not at the expense of forcing all the lowest seeded teams to play themselves in. So one more playin game for 16 seeds, but then you added the two playin games for the four worst at-large teams. Good compromise, in my opinion, because if the Tournament was still 64 teams, in theory all 4 of the at-large play-in game participants would have been left out altogether. Since they're benefitting from the expansion, those 4 teams probably should have to take the burden of the play-in game "solution", too.

[paulxu]

Just sort of how the deal evolved. First it was one play in game between the two worst 16 seeds to accommodate the WAC/Mountain West split that added a new auto bid without taking away any at-large bids. Then they talked about expanding the Tournament to add more at-large teams (the expansion would have been to 96), and the current set-up was a compromise. Three extra teams in the Tournament (from 65 to 68), but not at the expense of forcing all the lowest seeded teams to play themselves in. So one more playin game for 16 seeds, but then you added the two playin games for the four worst at-large teams. Good compromise, in my opinion, because if the Tournament was still 64 teams, in theory all 4 of the at-large play-in game participants would have been left out altogether. Since they're benefitting from the expansion, those 4 teams probably should have to take the burden of the play-in game "solution", too.

Gracias. Last 2 sentences makes the most sense.

[Muskie1000]

So here's the big question - who do we root for Ohio State or Dayton. I was choking on that thought and realized that I might have to swallow my pride and root for (gasp) UD. I would love to see Beaknose go down to someone he would never, ever consider playing.

[GoMuskies]

UD. I always cheer for the cute little mid-major nobodies in the Tournament.

[xubrew]

I don't think Thad really cares about playing Dayton or not playing Dayton. Prior to him getting there, Ohio State wouldn't even play buy games against in-state teams. I think it's more of a department thing, not a Thad thing. They don't want to play anyone from the state on equal terms.

[BBC 08]

So here's the big question - who do we root for Ohio State or Dayton. I was choking on that thought and realized that I might have to swallow my pride and root for (gasp) UD. I would love to see Beaknose go down to someone he would never, ever consider playing.

Give me the meteorite!

[paulxu]

I'll take door #3 Bob.

[Masterofreality]

Because no one really cares to watch a bunch of 16 seeds play each other. I think that's what your asking. It's basically marketing/getting some eyeballs with better programs.

This. It's a bone they're throwing to TV to justify the ridiculous jack the NCAA is making from them on this Tournament. No one watched 4 games that included the Texas East Southwest Techs vs. North Central Utah States.

Oh, and they picked the dump because they knew it would always be available in March.:spaz:

[GoMuskies]

No one watched 4 games that included the Texas East Southwest Techs vs. North Central Utah States.

There's never actually been a play-in round like that, but you're getting 'brew all juiced up just thinking about how awesome those 8 hours of basketball would be!

[Masterofreality]

There's never actually been a play-in round like that, but you're getting 'brew all juiced up just thinking about how awesome those 8 hours of basketball would be!

I know. Poetic license.

[xubrew]

I really don't like anything about the opening round. I'm okay with the field being at 68, but it's just the logistics of it that suck. To get all those teams to Dayton (or anywhere) on 48 hrs notice is tough, and it's even harder for fans to get there. The opening round doesn't feel like the NCAA Tournament. At least not the years I was at it.

If we were to have an opening round, I would actually prefer it if there were a line of #17 seeds, and they just played the #16 seeds either at the four regional sites where the #1 seeds are, or on the home courts of the #16 seeds.

[X-Fan]

UD. I always cheer for the cute little mid-major nobodies in the Tournament.
Because the Man is keeping me down...Public Reps!

LOL!

[OTRMUSKIE]

Totally rooting for OSU. If Gayton wins, which they won't because the A-10 is a joke, they will be claiming how they have passed X as a program. I just can't stand to watch their toxic waste faces as they quickly realize they will not be back to the dance for another 4-5 years. Just end the misery which is Gayton hoops and don't break their white trash hearts. GO BEAK NOSE!

[The_Mack_Pack]

This is what happens when you let Ron Wellman be in charge of something.

http://deadspin.com/vegas-thinks-the-ncaa-tournament-seeding-is-insane-1545595924?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitte r&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

[GoMuskies]

This is what happens when you let Ron Wellman be in charge of something.

http://deadspin.com/vegas-thinks-the-ncaa-tournament-seeding-is-insane-1545595924?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitte r&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

Ha, I would love to have William Hill Sports in charge of putting together the bracket. You think the NCAA is up for that. :laugh:

[Masterofreality]

This is what happens when you let Ron Wellman be in charge of something.

http://deadspin.com/vegas-thinks-the-ncaa-tournament-seeding-is-insane-1545595924?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitte r&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow


Ha, I would love to have William Hill Sports in charge of putting together the bracket. You think the NCAA is up for that. :laugh:

Or Alan Boston (Boston Red):

"@bostonred88: Dayton in in the tournament???????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????????? R they fucking kdding. I am done!"

[xubrew]

As much as I was against the opening round, Xavier is in because of it.

Also, when you see games like Cal Poly vs Texas Southern, both of which are from weak conferences, and did poorly in those conferences prior to winning the tournaments, It's hard to feel sorry for them for not going straight into the round of 64. Those might collectively be the two worst teams to ever play one another in the NCAA tourney.

[GoMuskies]

Aaric Murray plays for Texas Southern, right? I want to see him score 100 points in two NCAA Tournament games.

[Masterofreality]

As much as I was against the opening round, Xavier is in because of it.

Also, when you see games like Cal Poly vs Texas Southern, both of which are from weak conferences, and did poorly in those conferences prior to winning the tournaments, It's hard to feel sorry for them for not going straight into the round of 64. Those might collectively be the two worst teams to ever play one another in the NCAA tourney.

Annnnnnnd, guess who plays for Texas Southern?

The well travelled 5 star recruit from 5 years ago.....AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAric...........Murrrrrrrrr rrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyy!

[xubrew]

The odds on them winning are probably a billion to one. So, if you put a dollar on them to win it all, and you fill out the Quicken Loans bracket, you've essentially doubled your chances of winning a billion bucks.

[OTRMUSKIE]

The fact that he rips on Dayton is good enough for me. Take a hard took Gayton Fans, the rest of the world also thinks you're a fraud well at least X fans and Mr Boston.

[RealDeal]

Totally rooting for OSU. If Gayton wins, which they won't because the A-10 is a joke, they will be claiming how they have passed X as a program. I just can't stand to watch their toxic waste faces as they quickly realize they will not be back to the dance for another 4-5 years. Just end the misery which is Gayton hoops and don't break their white trash hearts. GO BEAK NOSE!

OTR, you really seem like a caricature of an obsessed fan with this post. It's really over the top. How old are you buddy?

[xubrew]

In a lot of cases I think road wins were the only thing the committee looked at. All of the overseeded teams seem to have a ton of them. Or, at the very least, weren't punished when they lost on the road.

SLU - 12 road/neutral wins. #5 line. They crapped out at the end of the year, but since all but one of the losses were away from home, I guess that didn't matter.

UMass - 13 R/N wins - #6 line. No real good wins, just a lot of okay ones away from home.

I guess nine road wins was good enough to land BYU on the #10 line, and their bad losses were deemphasized because they were played on the road. BYU played 19 games away from home, and that seems to be the only thing the committee really cared about.

Gonzaga's profile doesn't look anything like a #8 seed, but they played 18 games away from home and won 12 of them. The fact that most of them were against crap WCC teams doesn't seem to matter.

Dayton, who some are surprised to see in the field, won ten games away from home. They had three crap losses, but two were on the road, so I guess those were overlooked.

SFA, who really belongs on the #15 line, is up on the #12. I think they are perhaps the most overseeded team in the field, especially when you consider that the difference between a #15 and a #12 is usually a lot more than a #5 and a #8. Way more, actually. They had a bunch of crap road wins. To be fair, they had equally as many crappy home wins.

All of the overseeded teams seem to all have the same thing in common. They won more games away from home than the teams that didn't. I'm all for rewarding teams that go out and play, but at the same time I don't think you should just completely ignore what a team does at home. I think that they do. Most of the underseeded teams didn't appear to get credit for good home wins. I wonder if we were given any consideration for beating Creighton. I'm glad the Shootout was at a neutral site. Had we been at home, I wonder if we'd even be in the field.

Green Bay beat Virginia, who was a #1 seed. They also nearly beat Wisconsin. I know they were close, but no one else on the bubble had a win against a #1 seed. Did the committee give them any credit for it, or did they just count their road wins and decide they didn't do quite enough??

Providence beat Creighton twice, and is on the #11 line. That's the same line as the First Four. Would they have even made it had they lost to Creighton in the title game. If beating Creighton on a neutral floor only gets you to a #11 seed, what if they didn't have that??


I realize people think of me as a hater because of how I complained about our lack of road games and road wins all year long. But, I'm really not. It's just that I had a VEERRRRYY strong feeling that there were certain members of this committee that would only look at what teams did on the road. If you want my personal opinion, I think that is a very inadequate way to fully assess a team. I do value road performance, but not exclusively like some on this committee seem to. For the longest time, I did NOT think we were getting in. I know I said that a lot, but wasn't trying to stir up trouble. The reason I was saying it was because I legitimately didn't think we would. It wasn't until late Saturday night when all the bid stealers were gone, and when the only teams that were left were teams with equally piss poor road performances, that I thought we'd get in, and even then I wasn't sure.

The reason I thought the Atlantic Ten would do well was because with this committee, they had a huge advantage. The bottom of the league stinks, so it meant a large quantity of winnable road games. That, and the fact that they scheduled winnable out of conference road games (in many cases because that was all they could schedule) made me think they would be overvalued. Believe it or not, had Saint Bonaventure found a way to win the tournament, I think they would have still gotten the six teams that they did, plus Saint Bona, so seven in total.

For those of you that think I'm an opinionated blowhard asshole, you're wrong. I'm really just an asshole. An asshole who's damn happy that Xavier is in the tournament!!

[paulxu]

So the A10 followed the MWC formula from last year.
Someday the committee might address that.

Where's the Wofford love?

[OTRMUSKIE]

OTR, you really seem like a caricature of an obsessed fan with this post. It's really over the top. How old are you buddy?

Lol yeah I know it's juvenile but I hate that school with a passion. It all started when I was a kid and watching X up the Dump during the Tyrone Hill years and Negale Knight. Some DBag Dayton fan turned around and ripped up my blue Pom Pom. I was probably 9 at the time. I have decided ever since that day to hate that program till the day I die. I will never forget or forgive that crappy University for my torn up Pom Pom.

38 btw, lol

[xu82]

Lol yeah I know it's juvenile but I hate that school with a passion. It all started when I was a kid and watching X up the Dump during the Tyrone Hill years and Negale Knight. Some DBag Dayton fan turned around and ripped up my blue Pom Pom. I was probably 9 at the time. I have decided ever since that day to hate that program till the day I die. I will never forget or forgive that crappy University for my torn up Pom Pom.

38 btw, lol

A nine year olds Pom Pom? Really? That's...... just crazy!

[waggy]

It's almost like Arnold Horshack has been reincarnated.

[xubrew]

The Patriot League Tournament tips off Monday night.

The Saturday of the Elite Eight is the day that I begin to miss college basketball. There were 330 out of 351 teams that were still playing when Go started this thread, and in theory could still win it all. Now there are eight (well, 16 I guess if you count the four teams left in the CIT and NIT). For the first time since the second Saturday in November, there are no games on in the afternoon. I don't know what to do. I might have to resort to cleaning the house, or getting some work done, or exercising, or actually doing something productive.

I know March is the most exciting part of the year, but it's also a little like the last part of a great vacation. It's great, but it's almost over. I actually think the part of the season I like the best is November. You have the longest expanse of college basketball ahead of you, and you finally get to see a lot of these teams that you've read about and heard about actually play. There are countless exempt tournaments, so all kinds of teams are playing each other on equal terms.

Why does there have to be an offseason?? Oh well. I like college baseball as well. I actually don't mind football, but I'm really not a fan, and by the time November rolls around I'm really not even watching anymore. It's kind of funny because this is when most people are most in love with hoops, but to me it already kinda feels like it's over. :(

[Masterofreality]

Really.

I love the summer, but I cannot wait for next November.

[Masterofreality]

I HATE dayton!

Cripes Almighty c'mon Florida! Get your act together!

[Masterofreality]

Wilbekin.......dagger. 14 up is making me feel much better.

[Filthy Conservative]

This is so Dayton of Xavier fans.palpable schadenfreude. Dayton til I die( like Brew).

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[OTRMUSKIE]

For all of you who remember going up to the DUMP in the early 90's do you remember them playing this song? I believe it is very fitting for the first half of this game. http://youtu.be/TB54dZkzZOY

[gladdenguy]

And 2 three balls and Dayton right back in the game. Wish Xavier had somebody who could make a 3.

[Masterofreality]

C'mon Florida. Put this away. #MoneyOnTheLine

[Strange Brew]

Jeez, I wish Stain could get away the goonery of Dayton's bigs.

[OTRMUSKIE]

If Dayton could get a rebound they could win this,game

[paulxu]

Wisky and Zona with a good game.

I wonder if 2 brothers have ever lost on the same day in the Elite 8?

[GoMuskies]

Let's GO Badgers! Right in this thing at halftime. Let's keep Dallas Miller-free!

[Masterofreality]

Let's GO Badgers! Right in this thing at halftime. Let's keep Dallas Miller-free!

#Retweet

[GoMuskies]

When did they start putting Regional Finals on TBS?!? That's crazy.

[profson]

From a poster on muscoop.com (Marquette board):

Have Sean Miller and Ralph Kramden ever been seen in the same room?

[GoMuskies]

New game! Here we go Bucky the Badger!

[Masterofreality]

From a poster on muscoop.com (Marquette board):

Have Sean Miller and Ralph Kramden ever been seen in the same room?

If he would have said Cake Boss, I'd have more respect.

[Masterofreality]

McConnell is playing like he's back at Dookcane.

[GoMuskies]

I wish we had a big guy like Kamminsky.

[X Factor]

I wish we had a big guy like Kamminsky.

Sean O'Mara goes to the same high school that Kaminsky went to - Benet Academy.

Coming out of high school, Wisconsin was the only major program that offered him (Kaminsky) a scholly.

[GoMuskies]

I hope O'Mara is someday the best player on the floor in a regional final, too.

[GoMuskies]

This rule sucks.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Thats a really tough call.

[X Factor]

Aaaaahahahahahahaha! Offensive foul! Bye Bye Sean!

[GoMuskies]

Go find a TBS banner to write a weepy message on Sean!

[D-West & PO-Z]

What a horrendous call! Wow!

And someone tell Kerr Arizona doesnt have a timeout. Idiot.

[X Factor]

Damn. Arizona caught a break.

[GoMuskies]

Wow, hard to believe they changed the call there.

[GoMuskies]

Suck it Sean.

[X Factor]

That Lexus just can't make it to a Final Four.

[Xaveriana]

If he would have said Cake Boss, I'd have more respect.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4067/5151482511_6ea55634e6.jpg

[D-West & PO-Z]

The refs are lucky Arizona didnt just win the game. Cant believe they reversed that.

[GoMuskies]

Damn, I wish that shot would have gone in....since it wouldn't have counted. That would have been so much better.

[Masterofreality]

Suck it Sean.


That Lexus just can't make it to a Final Four.

No better than at Xavier, huh Raccoon?

[Masterofreality]

Go find a TBS banner to write a weepy message on Sean!


What a horrendous call! Wow!

And someone tell Kerr Arizona doesnt have a timeout. Idiot.

And both of these too.

[Masterofreality]

Sean O'Mara goes to the same high school that Kaminsky went to - Benet Academy.

Coming out of high school, Wisconsin was the only major program that offered him (Kaminsky) a scholly.

Yeah, but those recruiting rankings, doe.

[Masterofreality]

What's even better is that now the Raccoon gets to spend his summer in 110 degree heat.

He can burn his money though.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Who the hell were all those people cutting down the nets. After the players and assistant coaches there were like 4 more what looked like random people before Bo took the whole thing. Some random looking chick. There was no net left!

[D-West & PO-Z]

Sean Miller has really weird ears. Dont think I ever noticed that before.

[Juice]

Sean O'Mara goes to the same high school that Kaminsky went to - Benet Academy.

Coming out of high school, Wisconsin was the only major program that offered him (Kaminsky) a scholly.

But Sean can't hit a three like Frank.