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XUFan09
02-19-2014, 10:34 AM
I was just looking at RPI Forecast (http://www.rpiforecast.com/index2.html) to see what Xavier needs to happen for some of its better wins to be counted in the top 50:

Georgetown – Needs to go 3-2
St. John’s – Needs to go 3-1
Providence – Needs to go 3-1

The first two could be particularly important if Xavier picks up a win on the road against one of them. These records can all happen, even with a loss to Xavier in the first two instances, but (1) Marquette could easily play spoiler, as they face all three of these teams and two at home, and (2) Villanova and Creighton might have to sacrifice a little, though they would still easily be in the top 25.

Other teams:

Tennessee needs to go 4-1 to stay in the top 50. They play four straight borderline bad to awful teams (with the "toughest" one at home) before facing Mizzou at home, so it's still pretty likely.
Alabama has really dropped off. They had lost a lot of close games earlier in the season and it seemed like they would start winning more, just by law of averages, but it's become apparent that they often play to their opponent and a lot of their SEC opponents suck. They need to go 4-2 to just make the top 100 (a top 100 road win would actually look decent for Xaver), but I'd bet more on 2-4.
Cincinnati needs to go 2-3 to stay in the top 25. Considering they play projected RPI #202 UCF and #197 Rutgers, along with two home games, I think they'll manage.

Note: Conference tournaments could screw some of this up or benefit it. We're not close enough to even have a good idea of matchups though.

xubrew
02-19-2014, 11:16 AM
With Saint John's being without Obekpa for the next two weeks, the committee isn't likely to give a team that beats them without him as much credit as they would if they had beaten them with him. Kind of a tough break for the Johnnies. They were really on a roll.

gladdenguy
02-19-2014, 11:27 AM
A St. Johns win even without Obepka would make me ecstatic. They can sit Jakarr Sampson or D'Angelo Harrison as well. Fine by me.

XUFan09
02-19-2014, 11:59 AM
With Saint John's being without Obekpa for the next two weeks, the committee isn't likely to give a team that beats them without him as much credit as they would if they had beaten them with him. Kind of a tough break for the Johnnies. They were really on a roll.

I wonder how they would value it. It would still be a top 100 road win. Maybe the equivalent of a RPI 51-75 road win if they finish in the top 50? Just beat both them and Georgetown and we won't have to worry about it lol.

MHettel
02-19-2014, 02:08 PM
Interesting, but in my opinion it doesnt matter.

We need to finish in the Top 4 of the Big East, period. We do that, and we're in. We dont, and we better hope that other bubble teams go on a slide.

XUFan09
02-19-2014, 03:21 PM
Interesting, but in my opinion it doesnt matter.

We need to finish in the Top 4 of the Big East, period. We do that, and we're in. We dont, and we better hope that other bubble teams go on a slide.

This also concerns seeding if we do finish in the top 4 (which would involve 20 or 21 wins).

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sgarcia
02-19-2014, 09:45 PM
I think it'll be a 4 way tie for 3rd at 10-8 and Gtown in 7th at 8-10