Xavier @ Marquette (February 15, 2014) Game Thread

[xumuskies08]

That's the thing. I am watching the game and, frankly, trying to be respectful of others. Unfortunately, there are one or two complete idiots around here who, you would think, have never, ever watched basketball in their lives.

Calling people bitches isn't being respectful of others. Just let it go.

[paulxu]

I'd take our offense this game all the time. 59%, 44% from 3, 87% at the line.

It's lack of 3 pt D and stupid, stupid TO's that cost us the game. 19-4.

[xsteve1]

Philmore had a wide open 20 footer and passed it up. Have some stones.

[Charlesbt4]

You just asked if two poster blew each other.

I said I was trying. I never said I was succeeding.

[TUclutch]

Bad call in my opinion. Take Dee Davis out too

[mistabeecee41]

please just shutup stain.

[xumuskies08]

We've seen some real ticky tack fouls on Stain today.

[THRILLHOUSE]

geez 19 TO's and 19 points off TO's for Marquette. I predicted X would lose, but that's a very frustrating way to lose (assuming an epic comeback doesn't happen in the last 3 minutes)

[The_Mack_Pack]

Reynolds can really dunk..

[paulxu]

Nice put back!

[xsteve1]

Jalen coming of age. Could be huge down the stretch of the season.

[The_Mack_Pack]

I can't believe we're in this game

[BandAid]

Keep fighting!

[XMuskieFTW]

can we please?

[oddblob]

this little surge is gonna make the L sting just a bit more

[xumuskies08]

JMart! LETS GO!

[mistabeecee41]

hmmmm. if were going with 1 big, why the hell is it philmore and not reynolds?

[THRILLHOUSE]

wow...not over yet, absolutely gotta get a stop right here.

[oddblob]

philmore. COME ON

[TUclutch]

HOW is that a foul on us

[xsteve1]

How does Phil miss that?

[XMuskieFTW]

Thanks for showing up Philmore...

[xumuskies08]

Point. Blank.

[The_Mack_Pack]

Philmore shouldn't be missing that shot but he got dragged to the ground.

[mistabeecee41]

thanks, zeke. the king of clutch missed layups.

he is the worst rotation player weve had in the last 5 years.

[THRILLHOUSE]

How does Phil miss that?

A10 tournament all over again.

[Charlesbt4]

So, those that are upset that I am slamming Philmore, are you ready to admit that he's awful? Blown layup. BLOWN LAYUP.

[TUclutch]

Philmore shouldn't be missing that shot but he got dragged to the ground.

This should have been a foul on the shot and the rebound

[BMoreX]

thanks, zeke. the king of clutch missed layups.

he is the worst rotation player weve had in the last 5 years.

Nope. Jeff.

[xsteve1]

Gardner a great FT shooter.

[oddblob]

philmore is just awful, game in game out

[paulxu]

WTF. Oh well. They never give up.

[TUclutch]

So, those that are upset that I am slamming Philmore, are you ready to admit that he's awful? Blown layup. BLOWN LAYUP.
Wrong. Foul

[XU3232]

These refs have absolutely screwed us on some of these calls. I'm biased but wow.

[Charlesbt4]

This should have been a foul on the shot and the rebound

Buddy, get real.

[mistabeecee41]

Wrong. Foul

please. even if hes fouled, he's 6'8 and missed an uncontested layup. division 1 basketball players don't miss that shot, regardless of whether they have 1 hand or 2.

[Charlesbt4]

Wrong. Foul

Are you related to Philmore? Maybe his cousin or something?

[xsteve1]

X just can't have this loss develop into another losing streak. Thank God for DePaul on Wednesday.

[oddblob]

wow what an awful possession. wheres the urgency?

[Pablo's Brother]

Not our day

[paulxu]

You're down 6, and you waste 20 seconds dribbling?

[oddblob]

great punctuation mark from semaj. dogshit showing.

[The_Mack_Pack]

This is unbelievably frustrating. Xavier's turnovers are what cost the game.

[BandAid]

I like our chances if we play them again this year.

[oddblob]

I like our chances if we play them again this year.


lol

[BMoreX]

If you told me we'd shoot 56.5, 45.5 from 3, 74 from the foul line, and win rebounding 31-19, and lose the game, I would laugh.

Turnovers...

[sgarcia]

Time to focus on Depaul

[xsteve1]

Philmore just was awful. Won't take a wide open 20 footer misses easy bunnies. Why can't Farr get any of his time?
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[XU 87]

We have got to start defending the three.

[The_Mack_Pack]

I'm far more concerned about our inability to secure the basketball. There is no reason these guys should be turning the ball over this much.

[xumuskies08]

That sucked.

[sgarcia]

If you go back and look over the past several years, we commit more turnovers then we force. Obviously it's not the disparity it was today but it's been a trend.

[xumuskies08]

X made 2 more field goals than Marquette. Turnovers were killer.

[BandAid]

If you go back and look over the past several years, we commit more turnovers then we force. Obviously it's not the disparity it was today but it's been a trend.

Our defense isn't exactly built to force turnovers, but yes - that is true.

[sirthought]

Whomever banned Charles...thank you. I know we all complain on this board, but his tone was getting a bit grating.

Now back to our beers and tears after this sloppy performance.

[sgarcia]

X made 2 more field goals than Marquette. Turnovers were killer.

We were -12 on 3's and -9 on free throws which are also killers. I believe we are at least -120 in 3pt differential this year.

[XU 87]

I'm far more concerned about our inability to secure the basketball. There is no reason these guys should be turning the ball over this much.

Turnovers are a big problem. The two worst were simple passes at half court which were stolen for layups. Inexcusable.

[GoMuskies]

Do we play defense?

[BandAid]

Do we play defense?

What's defense?

[The_Mack_Pack]

Do we play defense?

Hard to play good defense when you turn the ball over 20 times. I think they had over 25 points off of turnovers where we only had like 5 points.

[xumuskies08]

Hard to play good defense when you turn the ball over 20 times. I think they had over 25 points off of turnovers where we only had like 5 points.

27 according to Byron during the post-game.

[XU 87]

27 according to Byron during the post-game.

Wow. That says it all (except for our terrible perimeter defense)

[LadyMuskie]

Between the turnovers and the horrendous defensive effort on the perimeter, I'm shocked we didn't lose by more. Our 3-point defense has been so bad several times this year that it looks like other teams are putting on clinics. We have got to figure out a way to defend better all the way around.

Again, it would be really nice to see us put together a solid game offensively and defensively while protecting the damn ball.

[Retire33]

3 pt defense? what's that?

This is not the A-10 anymore. Players in this conference will continue to make in rhythm threes. The packline defense is not going to be successful continuously with this formula. At some point X can not help off the dribble drive with the weak side guard. Need to extend the defense and just be tougher on the ball. Marquette put on a clinic on how to get turnovers from weakside and those not being strong with the basketball.

[OTRMUSKIE]

I really want to see more M Davis and less D Davis. M Davis might be a liability on the defensive end but he is our best chance at changing up the opponents defense. We can't hit threes so all the other team has to do is pack it down low. I am not concerned about this loss. No way X was winning this game, too many question marks, on the road, packed house. Just got to beat DePaul, Creighton, nova and at least one against, Hall, Town or Johns and first game of Conf Tournament and we will be fine. Seems easy, RIGHT!

[XUFan09]

Xavier faced the "Brad Redford problem" on defense. Like Redford, Jake Thomas has a low usage rate but shoots well from 3. Do you extend a defender out to completely deny the shot but in the process open up lanes to the basket against a team that relies on dribble penetration? Or do you play in a little to deny dribble penetration and contest the shots when they come? Neither is a good option, but regardless, Xavier didn't execute well and sometimes Thomas simply made contested shots.

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[Thor in 204]

I'm far more concerned about our inability to secure the basketball. There is no reason these guys should be turning the ball over this much.

I think X had trouble with Marquette's physical toughness. We played them pretty even after falling behind early; many of the early turnovers were, I think, because we were being moved out of position to receive passes. An old-style Big East game.

[danaandvictory]

The difference being that every team faced with defending Redford managed to neutralize him without giving up a billion points.

Xavier's defensive scheme is a mess. This is the Big East. Give scholarship players an in-rhythm three and it's going down. Miller and Bennett adapted by getting better athletes and extending. We look like we're expecting the open threes to fall to Hasim Alimodovic from Fordham who has never hit a jumper beyond six feet.

[PM Thor]

I am not complaining about the refs (like they caused the loss or anything, 19 turnovers did that) but that foul on Philmore after he missed the bunny when we were down 4 was utterly horrible. Go back and watch the replay. I mean, Philmore had position, the guy goes over his back, and Philmore gets a foul. A ref interjecting himself at a most inopportune time to say the least. I still can't believe that was called. Still can't believe it.

[SemajParlor]

I really want to see more M Davis and less D Davis. M Davis might be a liability on the defensive end but he is our best chance at changing up the opponents defense. We can't hit threes so all the other team has to do is pack it down low. I am not concerned about this loss. No way X was winning this game, too many question marks, on the road, packed house. Just got to beat DePaul, Creighton, nova and at least one against, Hall, Town or Johns and first game of Conf Tournament and we will be fine. Seems easy, RIGHT!

Given the sentiments regarding our lacking perimeter defense, not sure if this is the best strategy.

[OTRMUSKIE]

There were two bad fouls, one on Philmore when the Marquette guy was over his back and the one on Martin when they were going for a loose ball. Martin even got up and said "where is the foul" bad calls happen though and the 19 TO's is what really hurt X. I just think what you're seeing is a Xavier that doesn't match up well with Marquette. Marquette played us tough the first time around too. X will be much better prepared in the future. Just have to get through the growing pains of a better conference. 17-8, still in the dance, that's not too bad for moving to the 4th best conf. Just a little silver lining guys to help calm us down a little after a loss. :leghumper:

[danaandvictory]

Given the sentiments regarding our lacking perimeter defense, not sure if this is the best strategy.

Myles can't guard his shadow. Dee is fantastic isolated on one guy, but seems to have no clue about team defense.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Myles does look lost out there and he is a liability. Just like to see him in there more but maybe we just have to stick with Dee, I guess he is our best shot. I also think Reynolds might have became a man today. Too soon to tell but boy he looked more mature out there. Defiantly more Reynolds and less Philmore, especially against bigger, physical teams. I still like our chances down the stretch.

[Juice]

I am not complaining about the refs (like they caused the loss or anything, 19 turnovers did that) but that foul on Philmore after he missed the bunny when we were down 4 was utterly horrible. Go back and watch the replay. I mean, Philmore had position, the guy goes over his back, and Philmore gets a foul. A ref interjecting himself at a most inopportune time to say the least. I still can't believe that was called. Still can't believe it.

How that ref concluded that Philmore fouled there blows my mind. Gardner gets away with murder.

[The_Mack_Pack]

The way Reynolds rebounds the ball is awesome. He just skys up and rips it down with one hand. He seems to be much more focused and active since his suspension.

[danaandvictory]

The way Reynolds rebounds the ball is awesome. He just skys up and rips it down with one hand. He seems to be much more focused and active since his suspension.

Before Derrick Brown remade himself into an outside shooter, that was the way he attacked the glass. What was it, 17 boards in 19 minutes against BYU?

[bleedXblue]

I don't see this team doing much the rest of the way. They play too inconsistently from game to game. The poor defense and turnovers are starting to become regular issues with this team. Today they didn't look ready to play. Marquette came out and just out toughed them.

[paulxu]

I'm not bailing quite yet. (OK, I never bail...whatever)
Except for the SH game at home, I think they have done very well in the BE.
Opened up 5-1 with only a loss at Creighton.
Lost @ Providence and Villanova, and corrected the Providence loss at home.
Marquette avenged their earlier loss to us today, so the only real head scratcher for me is the SH screw up.

These things should test us, and we should be getting better each game. Didn't look quite that way today, but Marq played better than they did before also.
Not giving up yet. Lot of basketball left. Even though I think the recruiting makes our future very bright, I'd like these guys to make the dance and get back in that cycle before anything else we do.

[gladdenguy]

I don't really see how anybody can have confidence in this team. They are all over the place and so inconsistent it's irritating.

[danaandvictory]

I don't really see how anybody can have confidence in this team. They are all over the place and so inconsistent it's irritating.

I'd have to agree with this. You have no clue night to night whether they will defend, and even if they do, whether they will give up so many threes it doesn't matter. And the turnovers. Good God, the turnovers.

[bleedXblue]

Only bright spot is Reynolds getting some more time and starting to contribute a little. On the other hand, Farr has gone from a reliable bench player to not getting much time at all.

Who's REALLY improved this year ?

[Backyard Champ]

I'd have to agree with this. You have no clue night to night whether they will defend, and even if they do, whether they will give up so many threes it doesn't matter. And the turnovers. Good God, the turnovers.

Heck you have no clue how they will play from tv timeout to tv timeout. I thought we played about 7 good minutes and almost won the game. It's frustrating because at times, this team looks like it could make a long run in the tournament, at other times in the same game, we look like we don't even belong in it.

[XUFan09]

The difference being that every team faced with defending Redford managed to neutralize him without giving up a billion points.

Xavier's defensive scheme is a mess. This is the Big East. Give scholarship players an in-rhythm three and it's going down. Miller and Bennett adapted by getting better athletes and extending. We look like we're expecting the open threes to fall to Hasim Alimodovic from Fordham who has never hit a jumper beyond six feet.

I think Xavier decided to just contest him while trying to also deny dribble penetration (and how much they defended in either direction varied from possession to possession). It was a middle ground that simply didn't work. They probably should have just completely denied him and taken a few more lumps on dribble penetration.

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[The_Mack_Pack]

Only bright spot is Reynolds getting some more time and starting to contribute a little. On the other hand, Farr has gone from a reliable bench player to not getting much time at all.

Who's REALLY improved this year ?

Who's improved between Reynolds and Farr or who's improved on the team as a whole? I've seen major improvement in Reynolds this season as well as in Jmart. Heck, Martin went from an unreliable kind of scapegoat when the team didn't play well to a guy whom we expect around 15 points a game out of now. Everyone's free throw shooting has really improved as well.

Unfortunately, Farr and Philmore seemed to have regressed from the beginning of the season to now. Dee and Myles can't seem to find any consistency either. I believe Farr and Myles will be really good, solid options once they get more experience but Dee and Philmore have been extremely frustrating to watch lately.

[mohr5150]

Who has improved this year?

Semaj seems to be more in control, although yesterday was not a good day for him

Justin Martin is a much better player than he was at any point last year

Matt Stainbrook is a much better player than he was at Western Michigan

Jalen Reynolds has improved from a crazy mindless person at the beginning of the year to a solid performer now

James Farr saw 40 total minutes last year. He has improved by leaps and bounds, even though his minutes have dwindled as the season has gone on

I'm probably missing someone, but I'm headed out the door. There has been quite a bit of improvement by a lot of players, but you can't compare how a player played against mid-major teams and playing against Big East teams.

[The_Mack_Pack]

There has been quite a bit of improvement by a lot of players, but you can't compare how a player played against mid-major teams and playing against Big East teams.

Which is what makes Jmart's sudden emergence so much better. As soon as the competition level rose he took control of his game. That's a classic Xavier upperclassmen move. Good job Jmart.

[OH.X.MI]

Only bright spot is Reynolds getting some more time and starting to contribute a little. On the other hand, Farr has gone from a reliable bench player to not getting much time at all.

Who's REALLY improved this year ?

Does anyone have any idea why Farr has stopped getting time? I suspected it might have something to do with his defensive efforts. But most of the team is struggling in that respect, especially on the perimeter.

[The_Mack_Pack]

Does anyone have any idea why Farr has stopped getting time? I suspected it might have something to do with his defensive efforts. But most of the team is struggling in that respect, especially on the perimeter.

It's definitely his defense. He's also not rebounding and hitting the three like he was earlier in the season.

[XUFan09]

It's definitely his defense. He's also not rebounding and hitting the three like he was earlier in the season.

And Reynolds is also playing better, pushing Farr back in the rotation.

[bleedXblue]

Who has improved this year?

Semaj seems to be more in control, although yesterday was not a good day for him

Justin Martin is a much better player than he was at any point last year

Matt Stainbrook is a much better player than he was at Western Michigan

Jalen Reynolds has improved from a crazy mindless person at the beginning of the year to a solid performer now

James Farr saw 40 total minutes last year. He has improved by leaps and bounds, even though his minutes have dwindled as the season has gone on

I'm probably missing someone, but I'm headed out the door. There has been quite a bit of improvement by a lot of players, but you can't compare how a player played against mid-major teams and playing against Big East teams.


I'd honestly say Martin is a better player this year than he was last year.

Semaj.......I think he's a heck of a player......but I dont see a big difference between this year and last.

Farr........outside of hitting some timely 3's at the beginning of the year, I think he's regressed.

Stain improving from his EMU days? I dont think you can honestly give him this......did you really watch him play while at EMU?

Reynolds only recently has started to show some signs of improvement......it takes more than 2-3 games to be able to say hes a solid performer. He was a nightmare for the first 20 games.

Thats 5 players. Dee is up and down. Philmore is Philmore. M Davis is a frosh, he's gonna be fine. Stengers a walk on.

Bottom line, I stick with my initial assessment that we've seen very little improvement overall. Not enough to say that this team has turned to corner and can be expected to play at a consistent high level. Maybe the talent level just isnt there. Maybe this team is overachiving and this is all we can really expect. Most disappointed with the fact that this team isnt gelling. It's not improving defensively and it turns the ball over way too much without causing the same type of turnovers on their defensive end.

[XU 87]

[Stain improving from his EMU days? I dont think you can honestly give him this......did you really watch him play while at EMU?




Stainbrook averaged 11.4 ppg, 6.8 boards and 1.9 assists his last year at WMU.

This year against much stronger competition he's averaging 11.1, 8.8 and 2.4.

So he has slightly better overall stats (actually much better in rebounding) against much better competition. I never saw him play before X, but he wouldn't have the stats that he does if his game hasn't improved.

[XU-PA]

Perhaps this question has been asked and answered,
Why Stenger in the starting spot for the last 3 games?

[rjdog2001]

Here is what I think I know

Reynolds is going to be special...he may be the most athletic player Xavier has ever had. If he improves his defense and gets some post moves both of which I think he will...he could be the next great power forward at x

If Davis is our starting pg next year, x won't be much better next year...he seems like a good kid but he is extremely limited against big east competition. He just isn't very gifted from an athletic standpoint and he just isn't good enough to make up for his lack of height...lavender, holloway etc had the skills to mask their height disadvantage, dee doesn't have it.

[danaandvictory]

Perhaps this question has been asked and answered,
Why Stenger in the starting spot for the last 3 games?

Part of it is energy to counteract the team's habitual slow starts, part of it is trying to keep Philmore from being in foul trouble before the first media timeout.

[bleedXblue]

Stainbrook averaged 11.4 ppg, 6.8 boards and 1.9 assists his last year at WMU.

This year against much stronger competition he's averaging 11.1, 8.8 and 2.4.

So he has slightly better overall stats (actually much better in rebounding) against much better competition. I never saw him play before X, but he wouldn't have the stats that he does if his game hasn't improved.

About what I expected. He also slimmed down and had a year to get stronger and practice against better competition.

[Masterofreality]

My thoughts on yesterday.

-Marquette playing in an NBA arena with 17,000 people in it is impressive, but I still like a full Cintas better..when the crowd is awake.
-WTF with the turnovers? Many of them were just careless. 19 turnovers of which 10 were steals. Meanwhile, Marquette, with a much less experienced backcourt, only had 5, of which 3 were Steals by XU. Geezuz, team. PROTECT THE DAMN BALL! Some of it is trying to force fast breaks, but after the first few, guys, just stop it. I repeat, Marquette had just 5...,,FIVE!
-I am absolutely sick of other teams lighting us up from 3 range. It's not like nobody knew that Jake Thomas can make 3's. Meanwhile, guys like Semaj are sluffing off of him protecting Gawd knows what? This is happening time after time, game after game. FIND THE GUY AND STAY WITH HIM!!
-On that topic. Memo to Coach Mack. Guys in this league can make 3 pointers. There have been games this year where XU lost despite having an equal number of field goals...the difference being the other team made 3's while we made 2's (Seton Hall). While defensively you can't cover everything, how about stop having your guys sluff off shooters to cover an imagined drive. If your guards get beat off the dribble, have your bigs ready to cover low on blocks. STOP THE SLUFFING and STOP THE HEDGING! The 3 point bombing is now a trend, not an exception.
-While the officiating, by and large was decent (I was sitting down very low with WCWIII -thanks again, buddy!) The last foul on Matt Stainbrook was atrocious and the "announced" foul on Philmore after he blew the bunny was equally atrocious..considering what was not called all game long.

In my opinion, in reading the comments after the game, CMack emphasized the turnovers (rightly so) while saying little about his defensive strategy. Sorry, Coach, but saying that Jake Thomas took and made shots "that he doesn't take when we look at the film" is an unacceptable answer, and is in fact Cronin-esque. Thomas lit you up in Cintas, and while you may have started with one strategy, when a guy is torching you, you should be willing to adjust. Blaming players for defensive shortcomings is one thing, but, and I love ya Coach, but you have to look at changing it up.

I still think we're in decent shape, but we need to A) Beat DePaul, B) Win 2 of 3 vs GTown, St. Johns and Setion Hall on the road, C) At least split with Creighton or Nova at home. Bottom line is, however, we have to stop with the A-10 assumption that outside shooters will miss shots and adjust the defense where needed.

[GoMuskies]

The Marquette fan I was watching the game with and I decided that the foul on Philmore underneath made up for the forearm shiver "screen" he got away with on Gardner.

[Cheesehead]

The Marquette fan I was watching the game with and I decided that the foul on Philmore underneath made up for the forearm shiver "screen" he got away with on Gardner.

honestly, that screen was fine. Gardner flopped; they showed it a couple of times on replay. He brought up his arm to protect himself and he didn't extend it. Gardner ran right into him and then flopped, throwing his arms up in the air. That tactic worked most of the game but not on that screen.

[xudash]

Perhaps this question has been asked and answered,
Why Stenger in the starting spot for the last 3 games?

That is an excellent question.

[gladdenguy]

Is it me or does Chris Mack sound like an idiot after losses this year in his pressers? Very unlike him. The answer to the Jake Thomas question was moronic. Maybe this team is just driving him(as well as the fans) nuts.

[GoMuskies]

honestly, that screen was fine. Gardner flopped; they showed it a couple of times on replay. He brought up his arm to protect himself and he didn't extend it. Gardner ran right into him and then flopped, throwing his arms up in the air. That tactic worked most of the game but not on that screen.

Everytime I watched that highlight, I saw a forearm shiver that Philmore got away with. I knew a makeup call was coming sooner or later.

In the end, it didn't really matter either way. Marquette was just far superior yesterday.

[XU-PA]

The Marquette fan I was watching the game with and I decided that the foul on Philmore underneath made up for the forearm shiver "screen" he got away with on Gardner.
Nothing wrong with that screen. While Philmore leaned in a little, the lean was before contact. he did not move as contact was made, did not raise his arms at all, contact was made below Gardner's shoulder, 100% legal.

Gardner's best skill is his ability to flop, and he shoots free's pretty well too.

[BandAid]

Gardner's best skill is his ability to flop, and he shoots free's pretty well too.
Dangerous combo

[bleedXblue]

You're not gonna get some calls on the road. The Philmore foul was a joke at a cirtical time though.

We simply didnt play well enough.

[Juice]

Nothing wrong with that screen. While Philmore leaned in a little, the lean was before contact. he did not move as contact was made, did not raise his arms at all, contact was made below Gardner's shoulder, 100% legal.

Gardner's best skill is his ability to flop, and he shoots free's pretty well too.

Gardner's face after he got lit up by Philmore was gold. You could tell that he isn't used to getting worked like that.

[XU2011]

In my opinion, in reading the comments after the game, CMack emphasized the turnovers (rightly so) while saying little about his defensive strategy. Sorry, Coach, but saying that Jake Thomas took and made shots "that he doesn't take when we look at the film" is an unacceptable answer, and is in fact Cronin-esque. Thomas lit you up in Cintas, and while you may have started with one strategy, when a guy is torching you, you should be willing to adjust. Blaming players for defensive shortcomings is one thing, but, and I love ya Coach, but you have to look at changing it up.



That is the 4th or 5th Big East game this year where Chris Mack has made comments in the post-game about the opposing team or players doing things against Xavier "I had never seen on film" or "we weren't prepared for because they had never done that on film." That was his excuse for every single one of our losses in the 3 game skid.

How in the world does every BE team we lose to, do stuff against Xavier Chris Mack had never seen on film?

[XU2011]

Is it me or does Chris Mack sound like an idiot after losses this year in his pressers? Very unlike him. The answer to the Jake Thomas question was moronic. Maybe this team is just driving him(as well as the fans) nuts.

Yep. Go back and watch the pressers after we lose. It's so predictable. The other team did something against Xavier they allegedly hadn't done to another team all year long.

[casualfan]

The comment about Thomas taking shots he never took on film is laughable to me.

The guy is out on the floor for one reason and one reason only: because he can shoot.

All the shots he took against us looked like Rhythm shots in the flow of their offense. Maybe I missed all the off balance 30-footers he was chucking up there.

[Cheesehead]

The comment about Thomas taking shots he never took on film is laughable to me.

The guy is out on the floor for one reason and one reason only: because he can shoot.

All the shots he took against us looked like Rhythm shots in the flow of their offense. Maybe I missed all the off balance 30-footers he was chucking up there.

I agree, perhaps the scouting team is not getting the right clips then. That's just laughable. If he wants film, just watch the first game where Thomas did the EXACT SAME THING!