Black alts next year for a game

[BMoreX]

@slrussell: Chris Mack said on his radio show that #Xavier is going to wear black alternate jerseys next year.

[XU3232]

I just heard that on his radio show as well. Sick! Can't wait to see them.

[NY44]

They should have the crowd do a blackout for a game. I don't think I've ever heard of that.

[bjf123]

For just one game, or more than that? Black is not an XU color.


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[NY44]

For just one game, or more than that? Black is not an XU color.


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Gray and white aren't Xavier colors either. In fact, white isn't technically a color at all!

[Xu Red Dogg]

The wait is over!!!! Wow!

[Cheesehead]

For just one game, or more than that? Black is not an XU color.


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I am ok with black. They did it years ago under Prosser too. All the cool kids are doing it!

[THRILLHOUSE]

and the Reds are bring back the black alternate hat. The late 90's are making a comeback!

[94GRAD]

They should have the crowd do a blackout for a game. I don't think I've ever heard of that.

There are plenty of people who blackout for every home game.

[XU3232]

Mack didn't say whether it would just be for one game or not. I would assume they would wear them multiple times next year.

[xu82]

There are plenty of people who blackout for every home game.

I suppose you might know something about that. Well done

[xumuskies08]

Gray and white aren't Xavier colors either. In fact, white isn't technically a color at all!

Correction. White is technically every single color. Black is the absence of any color. Or even more technically, black is the absence of light while white contains every wavelength in the visible spectrum.

But anyway...black alternates...cool. Cool cool cool.

[Lamont Sanford]

I love the idea of a black alternate uniform. We wore a black Reebok uniform back in the Prosser era and it was badass! Personally, I love the grey alternate uniform we wear occassionally. Give the kids what they want to wear.

[powerofX]

I'm envisioning what Nike has done pitting dark on dark. Black unis with blue trim and minimal if any white.

[Retire33]

I will keep looking, but this is the last time I can remember X wearing black

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[Juice]

I think black is dumb if it's not in your color scheme. The Reds have ruined their uniforms by adding the black bill and/or top to their hats. And the black trim looks awful.

As far as alternates go, I like the grays because it's a secondary color or I like the throwbacks.

[paulxu]

What does this mean..."alternate" uniform?
I thought you had white which you wore at home, and then blue on the road. Sometimes grey?
I need a drink.

[THRILLHOUSE]

I will keep looking, but this is the last time I can remember X wearing black

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I think this was the last time X wore black:

http://www.bearcatsblog.com/images/stories/westsato.jpg

[RoseyMuskie]

No. Just no. It isn't part of Xavier's color scheme. It is the color our crosstown rival wears. It is the color synonymous with Cincinnati/Thuggins (Keep the differentiation). And it divides the fan base. Should I continue? Do you see UC wearing Navy? No.

I can't stand teams that wear black "just to be cool." Sox, Raiders, UC - all fine. But it's purely a gimmick that rarely looks good.

Stick to blue, white, or the occasional gray.

[BMoreX]

I think black is dumb if it's not in your color scheme. The Reds have ruined their uniforms by adding the black bill and/or top to their hats. And the black trim looks awful.

As far as alternates go, I like the grays because it's a secondary color or I like the throwbacks.

I agree.

[brownlavender]

Can we bring back the baby blues?

[XUOHTX]

Can we bring back the baby blues?

This.

I was a huge fan of black unis for X but have since changed my tune. The problem is I don't like the grays. They just look like dirty white unis. Best answer is baby blue.

[TUclutch]

Couple things. They're gonna use whatever Nike designs because we're a nike school and wan't to stay with the trend. Would guess most of XU's fanbase won't like this because of the demographics(mostly older conservative from what I can tell) Theyre gonna do what the players and future recruits will like and think look cool. Black uni's if done right will be absolutely sick for big games. I think they should keep the grey alternates as well. Im not saying I want them to have options like oregon, but a road, home, and an alternate or two are fine by me. Black with blue lettering with minimal white outlining should look awesome in my opinion.

[throwbackmuskie]

I like the grey ones. I am okay I guess with the black unis, though I think it has ran it's course. Baby Blues would be sweet.

[NY44]

The problem with the Reds' jerseys were that they were those dumb vests. I'm not from the area so can anyone confirm that if you bought a Reds jersey back then that it was just a vest?

[throwbackmuskie]

The problem with the Reds' jerseys were that they were those dumb vests. I'm not from the area so can anyone confirm that if you bought a Reds jersey back then that it was just a vest?

I think they sold vests and also sold the jersey with red sleves on it to look like a vest

[Ledgewood]

Just so everyone knows, I am against this.

[Ledgewood]

I think this was the last time X wore black:

http://www.bearcatsblog.com/images/stories/westsato.jpg

These are basically Butler.
http://www.thesportsbank.net/core/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Butler-bulldogs-basketball.jpg

[Kahns Krazy]

I'm surprised how many of you are openly anti-black. Marcus Smart might shove you for that.

[Ledgewood]

I'm surprised how many of you are openly anti-black. Marcus Smart might shove you for that.

Look, I ain't got nothin' against black uniforms, I just think they got no place on OUR team with OUR players.

Let's just say... I'm set in my ways.

[Retire33]

I'm surprised how many of you are openly anti-black. Marcus Smart might shove you for that.

What a "piece of sh*t" comment :)

[GoMuskies]

I don't care what our guys wear as long as they kick the shit out of whoever they're playing.

Plus, new shorts for drudy to buy...

[ballyhoohoo]

We need more of these. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/13/py7yvyda.jpg

[Ledgewood]

We need more of these. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/13/py7yvyda.jpg

Any new dumb thing Nike comes out with will never be as good as these.

Just about every time we do a throwback game, pretty much everyone says "Why can't we just wear these?!"

The only good thing Nike has come up with recently is these hyperelite dominance uniforms, and that's just because they look retro. (http://www.trbimg.com/img-52eabbf8/turbine/bal-nike-hyper-elite-dominance-uniforms-20140130/580/580x414)

The Cincinnati Royals mockups we wore at the Muskie Madness a few years back were amaaaaaaaazing. Stupid NCAA and their stupid rules....

[nuts4xu]

I believe the NCAA only allows for one home, one away, and one set of alternates for basketball. I don't think it is like football where you can change your gear every game. I know Adidas came out with the special tournament uniforms for select schools last year, but I haven't seen a school that comes out in more than a few sets of uniforms.

[danaandvictory]

I don't mind the black alts, but I hope they keep the white Xs on the shorts, that might be a cool look.

The alt that I've always thought might be cool would be the current home uniforms except with green replacing navy for the Wake Forest game as a little homage to Skip.

[nuts4xu]

We need more of these. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/13/py7yvyda.jpg

What tight shorts? We used to call these "nutters" back in the day.

[danaandvictory]

I believe the NCAA only allows for one home, one away, and one set of alternates for basketball. I don't think it is like football where you can change your gear every game. I know Adidas came out with the special tournament uniforms for select schools last year, but I haven't seen a school that comes out in more than a few sets of uniforms.

I don't think this is right - Kansas started the year in their normal uniforms and then introduced home and road alternates. Ohio State has worn their normal models of white, gray, and red plus a throwback set in the Michigan game. I don't think there's any limitation provided the uniforms gibe with NCAA regulations as far as colors and so on.

[Muskie]

New Poll (http://www.xavierhoops.com/showthread.php?27315-Black-Alternate-Uniform-for-Next-Season-Yay-or-Nay&goto=newpost)

[xumuskies08]

I don't think this is right - Kansas started the year in their normal uniforms and then introduced home and road alternates. Ohio State has worn their normal models of white, gray, and red plus a throwback set in the Michigan game. I don't think there's any limitation provided the uniforms gibe with NCAA regulations as far as colors and so on.

Yep. KU has 4 uniforms this year. The regular white home and blue away plus 2 alternates, which are throwback-ish and completely awesome.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/13/e8e4umu9.jpg

[ballyhoohoo]

Yep. KU has 4 uniforms this year. The regular white home and blue away plus 2 alternates, which are throwback-ish and completely awesome.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/13/e8e4umu9.jpg

I actually really like the script jay hawk

[GoMuskies]

Yep. KU has 4 uniforms this year. The regular white home and blue away plus 2 alternates, which are throwback-ish and completely awesome.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/13/e8e4umu9.jpg

Left is good. Right is not.

[Ledgewood]

I actually got a photo of the alt black unis.

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[danaandvictory]

The script Jayhawks uniform reminds me that X couldn't wear those Cincinnati Royals style uniforms because the number wasn't centered. Those were pretty awesome - maybe time to revisit.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

This is all great but would be a lot better if one could actually get one from the Nike shop that wasn't in kids size.

[NY44]

In a world where the Oregon Ducks have 1,000,000 jersey combos for football and the NBA is trying out T-shirt jerseys, I think you guys can't complain if black is our crazy divergence from tradition.

[bjf123]

In a world where the Oregon Ducks have 1,000,000 jersey combos for football and the NBA is trying out T-shirt jerseys, I think you guys can't complain if black is our crazy divergence from tradition.

Sure we can. Haven't you been reading?!?!?


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[American X]

Great, we will draw in more of the Goth and Emo demographic.

Our color is Navy, which is a great color as far as team colors go. Stick with it.

[Ledgewood]

Sure we can. Haven't you been reading?!?!?


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You guys say this now. First it was ok, don't complain, it's just super big shorts and tight jerseys with no piping, it could be worse. Then it's just sweatbacks, it could be worse. Then it's just black uniforms.

But before you know it, our team's wearing full sleeved, bedazzled, hologram jerseys with the players' twitter handles in place of their last names.

DON'T SAY I DIDN'T WARN YOU!

#slipperyslope
#onlyonethirdjoking

[Backyard Champ]

I like the black. Having said that baby blue would be awesome.

To not like black because "our rival has black" is a dumb reason.

[XU-XHI]

I liked the black back in the day (it was a blast watching D. West intimidate uc at their house in that black uni) but would prefer a uniform that is such a dark blue that it could be mistaken for black. Now using the black as a background to really set off certain blue & white elements can be really cool.

[Cheesehead]

I find it amusing that some folks are upset by black uniforms. Lighten up.

[Ledgewood]

I find it amusing that some folks are upset by black uniforms. Lighten up.

Get it?!

[Fireball]

The script Jayhawks uniform reminds me that X couldn't wear those Cincinnati Royals style uniforms because the number wasn't centered. Those were pretty awesome - maybe time to revisit.

I did love those. Those would be my vote for our alternative unis. My second vote would be for the Byron-era royal blues.

[ammtd34]

Black. Yes. Yes. Yes.

[nuts4xu]

When we go to the uniforms that are black, will we ever go back?

[Juice]

I find it amusing that some folks are upset by black uniforms. Lighten up.

I'm not upset. I just don't like it. I prefer throwbacks or gray for alternate jerseys. That's all.

[Xu Red Dogg]

1) Like it or not Black IS a part of our "basketball tradition". I got 2 words for you… DAVID WEST
2) For all intents and purposes, white, gray and black are “neutral” colors when it comes to uniforms. Many teams employ these colors as alternates even though they are not in the school palate including: Duke, Butler, Kansas, Tennessee, Florida, Florida State, Texas, Stanford.
3) Black does not mean “thug” or mean the players wearing them are thugs. Again, I’ll point toward the examples of Duke and Stanford above. Both of those teams have black uniforms.
4) Love or hate Nike, they have a pulse for what is “IN”. I will trust their pulse and the decision makers at X when it comes to these matters. If it helps secure another top 10 class, I don’t care if the uniforms are gold…as long as it says “XAVIER” on the front.
5) They better sell the shorts.
6) They better sell the shorts.
7) They better sell the shorts.
8) They better sell the shorts!

[cheeba]

Are there any net savvy people out there that can design a mock alternate of the baby blue with the current logo, etc? I think that would be an awesome jersey and one even the younger generation/recruits would like. Kins of like when the Chargers were their baby blues, people on the networks or espn go crazy over them. I would love a baby blue alternate jersey.

[Ledgewood]

Are there any net savvy people out there that can design a mock alternate of the baby blue with the current logo, etc? I think that would be an awesome jersey and one even the younger generation/recruits would like. Kins of like when the Chargers were their baby blues, people on the networks or espn go crazy over them. I would love a baby blue alternate jersey.
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[RoseyMuskie]

I like the black. Having said that baby blue would be awesome.

To not like black because "our rival has black" is a dumb reason.

It's your prerogative to support the black uniforms. But I'd appreciate a clever retort rather than a simple dismissal of my point as "dumb." I.E. Recruits are drawn to Nike's alternate designs, so it will aid in Chris Mack's job. I don't necessarily buy into that hoopla, but it's better than just calling something dumb.

[PM Thor]

Black is played out and unoriginal. I would prefer throwback unis over black, or heck even the grey ones.

[RoseyMuskie]

1) Like it or not Black IS a part of our "basketball tradition". I got 2 words for you… DAVID WEST Valid point, but I'd still rather not wear the color of UC
2) For all intents and purposes, white, gray and black are “neutral” colors when it comes to uniforms. Many teams employ these colors as alternates even though they are not in the school palate including: Duke, Butler, Kansas, Tennessee, Florida, Florida State, Texas, Stanford. I can't think of a team at any level that doesn't have a white jersey or a white accent somewhere in its uniform. Therefore, it's virtually everyone's color (or lack thereof). Black is different in that it is a team color (as in not every team utilizes it, like navy).
3) Black does not mean “thug” or mean the players wearing them are thugs. Again, I’ll point toward the examples of Duke and Stanford above. Both of those teams have black uniforms. Don't know if this was a crack at my initial post or not, but I said that it is synonmous with UC during their Huggins days. I did not state that it automatically means "thug" for everyone else. I just don't want to be associated with that UC period
4) Love or hate Nike, they have a pulse for what is “IN”. I will trust their pulse and the decision makers at X when it comes to these matters. If it helps secure another top 10 class, I don’t care if the uniforms are gold…as long as it says “XAVIER” on the front.
5) They better sell the shorts.
6) They better sell the shorts.
7) They better sell the shorts.
8) They better sell the shorts!

See bold.

[Backyard Champ]

It's your prerogative to support the black uniforms. But I'd appreciate a clever retort rather than a simple dismissal of my point as "dumb." I.E. Recruits are drawn to Nike's alternate designs, so it will aid in Chris Mack's job. I don't necessarily buy into that hoopla, but it's better than just calling something dumb.

How about, seems rather childish.

[Ledgewood]

So we've decided, no black uniforms, right? Ok, I'll call coach and let him know.

[UCGRAD4X]

You also need to consider that they might want to wear them when X is on Nationally - which should happen more often in the future. It's what the kids want and I think they expect it will attract a wider fan-base, and they may be right - what-do-I-know?

Maybe it can get more players like D. West and R. Sato...

And the chicks dig it!

[RoseyMuskie]

How about, seems rather childish.

Thanks for proving my point.

Does Duke wear Carolina blue? Even better, IU wear Purdue black? No.

[BandAid]

Black isn't part of the school color scheme, but when the Jesuits first came to America they were called "black robes" by the Native Americans. It isn't supposed to be, but I like to think of it as a nod to our Jesuit heritage.

I'm cool with it once or twice.

[TUclutch]

Thanks for proving my point.

Does Duke wear Carolina blue? Even better, IU wear Purdue black? No.

You cant even compare this to xu wearing black/uc like you've tried to. Very few if any are going to see XU in black alternates and have any thought in their mind of UC/Huggins. Sorry

[bleedXblue]

You cant even compare this to xu wearing black/uc like you've tried to. Very few if any are going to see XU in black alternates and have any thought in their mind of UC/Huggins. Sorry

Yeah, lots of programs have black in their unis. I don't recall when we last wore black that this was an issue either.

I still prefer white and blue.....for the record.

[RoseyMuskie]

You cant even compare this to xu wearing black/uc like you've tried to. Very few if any are going to see XU in black alternates and have any thought in their mind of UC/Huggins. Sorry

The Duke/UNC comparison is a bit of a stretch. I admit that. That's why I also brought up IU/Purdue, which seemed much more reasonable.

I believe more people than you think will at least think UC. Not as many will think Huggins, but a lot will think UC. That was one of my initial points.

I'll leave it at this - if the jersey is considered a throwback in honor of D. West, then fine. I'll think it is ugly, but I can at least buy that rationale. I just don't buy the "cool" / "it's what Nike is doing" argument.

[ThrowDownDBrown]

The Duke/UNC comparison is a bit of a stretch. I admit that. That's why I also brought up IU/Purdue, which seemed much more reasonable.

I believe more people than you think will at least think UC. Not as many will think Huggins, but a lot will think UC. That was one of my initial points.

I'll leave it at this - if the jersey is considered a throwback in honor of D. West, then fine. I'll think it is ugly, but I can at least buy that rationale. I just don't buy the "cool" / "it's what Nike is doing" argument.

Unless you're a high level basketball recruit in disguise then I don't think X really cares if you don't think they're "cool"

[JTG]

Please no light blue ever. And royal blue maybe once as a throwback. Dont care for black but I understand the rational.

[Muskie]

If black is this controversial how would the board take camo?

[RoseyMuskie]

Unless you're a high level basketball recruit in disguise then I don't think X really cares if you don't think they're "cool"

Just as Xavier doesn't really care if you think they are cool.

Well aware that I have little to no say. But isn't the point of a message board to bring together our various opinions?

[GoMuskies]

If black is this controversial how would the board take camo?

:sign-wtf: :sick:

[Juice]

If black is this controversial how would the board take camo?

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/4947427072/h79978A62/

[Tardy Turtle]

I, for one, welcome our new black alternate jersey overlords.

[Cheesehead]

Thanks for proving my point.

Does Duke wear Carolina blue? Even better, IU wear Purdue black? No.

Duke wears black. Indiana still wears the clown pant warmups so they have no voice.

The Huggins era was 9 years ago. Move on! :smile:

[TUclutch]

The Duke/UNC comparison is a bit of a stretch. I admit that. That's why I also brought up IU/Purdue, which seemed much more reasonable.

I believe more people than you think will at least think UC. Not as many will think Huggins, but a lot will think UC. That was one of my initial points.

I'll leave it at this - if the jersey is considered a throwback in honor of D. West, then fine. I'll think it is ugly, but I can at least buy that rationale. I just don't buy the "cool" / "it's what Nike is doing" argument.

If someone sees a black jersey with XAVIER written across the front and they think of UC, they have some underlying issues in my opinion.

[RoseyMuskie]

If someone sees a black jersey with XAVIER written across the front and they think of UC, they have some underlying issues in my opinion.

Pretty easy actually. It's not Xavier's color. I then think of other teams that wear black due to scheme. Being the closest program, UC naturally pops out.

Goes back to my initial point again - this divides the fanbase. I was going to drop it, but simply claiming I have issues is not only a poorly conceived counterpoint, but rather offensive to someone who cheers for the same team.

As I said, if you refute my point by claiming it's in honor of David West, I will buy your argument. It's valid. But please think twice before calling out a fellow fan on an ad hominem basis.

[TUclutch]

Pretty easy actually. It's not Xavier's color. I then think of other teams that wear black due to scheme. Being the closest program, UC naturally pops out.

Goes back to my initial point again - this divides the fanbase. I was going to drop it, but simply claiming I have issues is not only a poorly conceived counterpoint, but rather offensive to someone who cheers for the same team.

As I said, if you refute my point by claiming it's in honor of David West, I will buy your argument. It's valid. But please think twice before calling out a fellow fan on an ad hominem basis.

thats why it's called an alternate jersey. Alternates are usually flashy/trendy and for big or select games. Who care's if it's in honor of someone or not. If Nike wants to give the team a slick alternate and recruits and the players like it that is all that matters. I still can't fathom having the mindset of thinking of another team just because of an alternate jersey color. If I was watching I'd read xavier and think oh thats clearly an alternate jersey. Kind of cool. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion though.