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Retire33
01-28-2014, 11:54 AM
Per Shannon Russell. Looks to be academic
@slrussell: Freshman Jalen Reynolds has suspended indefinitely from #Xavier's basketball team, per coach Chris Mack.
@bradjohansen: #Xavier suspends Reynolds: "When Jalen can demonstrate he is able to successfully manage those responsibilities, he will re-join our team”
XU 87
01-28-2014, 12:00 PM
I'm guessing that he missed some classes or some mandatory study halls.
Retire33
01-28-2014, 12:04 PM
I'm guessing that he missed some classes or some mandatory study halls.
More than likely correct. I remember Kenny getting similar suspension few years back and it was not a long process. Probably more of a wake up call than anything.
OH.X.MI
01-28-2014, 12:05 PM
Sounds like a little quality time with Sister Rose will get this all sorted out.
The_Mack_Pack
01-28-2014, 12:17 PM
Good move, education comes first at Xavier. If Jalen really wants to play at this level then he'll get it sorted out quickly.
Hope you guys are right and that's all it is, but "indefinite suspension from team" makes it sound more serious.
nuts4xu
01-28-2014, 12:26 PM
I'm guessing that he missed some classes or some mandatory study halls.
I agree, I don't know why they would suspend him for grades when we are just a few weeks into a new semester.
XU 87
01-28-2014, 12:30 PM
If he was supended for grades, he would likely be out for the rest of the year, per NCAA rules. And you're right- it's too early to have grade problems. I suspect we'll see him back in a week or two, more likely two.
Muskie1000
01-28-2014, 12:37 PM
But really... isn't he the same guy who had some work ethic problems when it came to practicing back in the beginning? I'm worried that this seems to be a general attitude with him. He doesn't get much playing time and we all know that if you put in the time and effort in practice, you get playing time. I'm wondering if he just is lazy.
GoMuskies
01-28-2014, 12:38 PM
Get it together Jalen!
casualfan
01-28-2014, 12:40 PM
This is troublesome for a kid who had academic issues before he ever set foot on campus.
Hope he can get it together, but there seems to be a bit of a pattern developing here. He doesn't seem to be able to make it very long without having some type of academic issue (assuming that's what is going on here).
But really... isn't he the same guy who had some work ethic problems when it came to practicing back in the beginning? I'm worried that this seems to be a general attitude with him. He doesn't get much playing time and we all know that if you put in the time and effort in practice, you get playing time. I'm wondering if he just is lazy.
Or maybe he's a kid who is still learning the rewards of hard work. Keep the faith - he wouldn't be here if Coach Mack didn't believe in him, and he wouldn't be an elite Division I athlete if he were "lazy".
Titanxman04
01-28-2014, 12:42 PM
My fear is that his exams went poorly from the first semester. If thats the case, then he'll be out the rest of the season. Here's to hoping it's to the lesser than what I fear it may be.
GoMuskies
01-28-2014, 12:43 PM
My fear is that his exams went poorly from the first semester. If thats the case, then he'll be out the rest of the season. Here's to hoping it's to the lesser than what I fear it may be.
If that was the case, we'd have known for awhile. Grades come out pretty quick. This isn't law school.
LadyMuskie
01-28-2014, 12:43 PM
But really... isn't he the same guy who had some work ethic problems when it came to practicing back in the beginning? I'm worried that this seems to be a general attitude with him. He doesn't get much playing time and we all know that if you put in the time and effort in practice, you get playing time. I'm wondering if he just is lazy.
It definitely sounds like this is the case. It's a shame. I'm sure he has lots of talent. Gotta work hard to play hard, Jalen.
Titanxman04
01-28-2014, 12:46 PM
This will be the type of thread that I leave the page for an hour and there'll be over 100 posts... At least I'll have some reading material.
Milhouse
01-28-2014, 12:46 PM
There's absolutely no way it's exams. Semester started two weeks ago. Coaches had 1st semester grades 5 weeks ago.
Look at Georgetown's Josh Smith and ND's Jerian Grant...both those academic issues came right after they got grades back.
Can't believe people are questioning his work ethic in practice. The reason he's not getting more PT is that he's 3-4 back on the depth chart. When he gets on the floor I don't know that anyone has a higher motor than him on the court.
I'm far from giving up on Jalen Reynolds unlike some people...
Always Learning
01-28-2014, 12:50 PM
Everyone should relax. It is Xavier, and at Xavier academics come first ... everytime. Like others have said, if it was because of first semester grades, then he would be out the rest of the year. BUT, as Chris said, "when he demonstrates ...." that means no more skipping class, no more skipping tutoring sessions, and following to the letter Sister Rose's Rules.
Remeber, back when Sister Rose came aboard, she asked Pete if she would have the authority to "bench a player." Pete recalls, he swallowed hard, but agreed.
To my knowledge, Sister Rose's authority still exists.
Xavier history says Jalen gets the message, will be back soon, and will be early to class, and early to tutoring sessions, and in the days, years ahead we will be proud of him, especially when he GRADUATES.
nd one last note. The message sent to Jalen, is received by the rest of the team, and the incoming Freshman when they arrive.
GoMuskies
01-28-2014, 12:54 PM
Xavier history says Jalen gets the message, will be back soon, and will be early to class, and early to tutoring sessions, and in the days, years ahead we will be proud of him, especially when he GRADUATES.
Xavier also has some history of guys who never get the message and are shown the door. That's fine, too, if Reynolds isn't willing to put in the work. Given this is a first "offense", I'm assuming he just needed a wake up call and will be fine.
casualfan
01-28-2014, 12:54 PM
Xavier history says Jalen gets the message, will be back soon, and will be early to class, and early to tutoring sessions, and in the days, years ahead we will be proud of him, especially when he GRADUATES.
nd one last note. The message sent to Jalen, is received by the rest of the team, and the incoming Freshman when they arrive.
Yeah, but Jalen Reynolds history says he won't. This is the third time he's had an academic issue affect his ability to contribute to the team.
I hope he gets his shit together, but I'm not holding my breath based on his track record.
GoMuskies
01-28-2014, 12:57 PM
Third time? I don't remember the other two. He had a clearinghouse issue, but those are generally not the players' fault. What was the other issue?
GreatWhiteNorth
01-28-2014, 12:57 PM
Maybe Jalen is simply not the studying type. Doesn't necessarily mean he is lazy, some people just have difficulties with books. He needs to spend more time and efforts than others just to pass. Urgent call to Sister Rose! Him suspended and SC has toe problems, our lineup is facing new challenges.
Xu Red Dogg
01-28-2014, 12:57 PM
Reactions to suspension have to be my favorite things on Xavier messageboard.
16 posts in and Jalen is already a lazy person that has chronic grade problems. By post 40 he will be punching horses.
The NCAA certifies eligibility at every semester. If it is a grade problem what would have been announced today is that Jalen is ineligible. Xavier is smart enough not to drag it out and make it a 2 part deal. Beyond that, it is almost inappropriate that Shannon lumped in the academic part when she wrote her story. Ineligibility out of high school includes many factors in addition to GPA and test scores, the most important of which being correct course selection. I am not sure what caused Jalen to have to sit out a year, but after reading the story about Myles Davis I tend not to point the finger at the kid as quickly as I used to.
Mack used the work “responsibilities” 3-4 times in the release. To me, “not handling responsibilities means” being late, forgetting meetings, etc. If it is 10 years ago / pre twitter this is probably something we don’t even hear about.
LA Muskie
01-28-2014, 01:00 PM
Step back from the ledge folks. Learning moment for Jalen and the rest of the team. Better nipped in the bud when he's a role (at best) player. Jalen's future -- as a Muskie -- is bright. Kudos to Chris and the admin for working to get him on the right track early.
BMoreX
01-28-2014, 01:00 PM
I'm really not worried at all. He probably skipped a few classes or study halls.
My guess is he gets suspended for Seton Hall and Villanova, and possibly gets back for the Providence game in 1.5 weeks.
casualfan
01-28-2014, 01:01 PM
Third time? I don't remember the other two. He had a clearinghouse issue, but those are generally not the players' fault. What was the other issue?
He didn't qualify out of high school and then didn't qualify out of prep school.
Seems to be a pattern to me. If it is stuff like skipping class and missing study halls as others have mentioned maybe that's a glimpse into why he had so many issues qualifying.
XU 87
01-28-2014, 01:08 PM
But really... isn't he the same guy who had some work ethic problems when it came to practicing back in the beginning? I'm worried that this seems to be a general attitude with him. He doesn't get much playing time and we all know that if you put in the time and effort in practice, you get playing time. I'm wondering if he just is lazy.
Oh c'mon. If he wasn't working hard in practice, he probably wouldn't be playing at all. Maybe he's not getting more playing time because he has Stainbrook, Philmore and Farr in front of him. He certainly has passed Stenger on the depth chart. (Maybe Stenger is lazy since he's not playing anymore. Was Farr lazy last year when he wasn't playing? Landon Amos must be lazy too.) But we don't know why he got suspended but the best guess is that he missed some classes or some mandatory study halls. Or maybe it he was late for a team meeting or two. Maybe he got drunk at Danas. We don't know. But stop calling him "lazy". That is total speculation and totally unfair.
XURunner85
01-28-2014, 01:11 PM
Casual fan, he did not qualify out of high and school and out of prep school because of a lack of a core class. Had nothing to do with grades it had to with taking a class you need for college. And it turned out that the class he took in Prep School, he had taken in high school, but the transcripts did not reach Xavier until 2nd semester. Rule is you cannot get credit a 2nd time for a class you got credit for already. Therefore he had to sit out last year because of that one class. Not his fault, not Xavier's fault. One of the schools he went to did not give Xavier his transcripts until it was to late to change course. It's a problem on the high school level when kids transfer to another school for the sports. I got all this first hand from our old AD Bobinski. He will be fine. Remember he has worn the "Gold" jersey at least twice this year.
XU 87
01-28-2014, 01:11 PM
He didn't qualify out of high school and then didn't qualify out of prep school.
Seems to be a pattern to me. If it is stuff like skipping class and missing study halls as others have mentioned maybe that's a glimpse into why he had so many issues qualifying.
And what pattern is that? Was he suspended in high school or prep school for skipping class? I suggest you stop speculating on what a terrible, lazy person he is.
He didn't qualify out of high school and then didn't qualify out of prep school.
Seems to be a pattern to me. If it is stuff like skipping class and missing study halls as others have mentioned maybe that's a glimpse into why he had so many issues qualifying.
Agreed. Definitely a pattern, but I'm still not worried about it. He'll figure it out just like a bunch of kids with academic issues have before him.
Whatever the cause is doesn't really matter, Mack knows how to manage and develop his players. What matters is figuring out how to replace his 2.8 PPG!!!
OH.X.MI
01-28-2014, 01:18 PM
I think an important thing to remember is that this is also Reynolds first year as a true student athlete. Last year all Reynolds had to do was go to class and keep in shape, this year there he's got a lot more on the table. Time management is hard for a lot of students, let alone for people who travel all around the country on a weekly basis.
Musketeer_15
01-28-2014, 01:20 PM
I don't see this as a long term problem at all. As someone pointed out earlier, this is probably gonna be just like what happened a couple years ago with Kenny Frease. It will take a couple weeks for him to get back, but I bet he comes back for Providence next Saturday and if not then it will probably be Butler. Give him a couple weeks to focus primarily on whatever this issue is and learn from his mistakes. Forget about posting negative thoughts on this, show the kid some support and hope he becomes a better person after this.
XU 87
01-28-2014, 01:20 PM
Agreed. Definitely a pattern, but I'm still not worried about it. He'll figure it out just like a bunch of kids with academic issues have before him.
Whatever the cause is doesn't really matter, Mack knows how to manage and develop his players. What matters is figuring out how to replace his 2.8 PPG!!!
Until you know what he did, and can then compare it to any previous and similar behavior, I suggest you stop with the "It's a pattern" stuff.
bourbonman
01-28-2014, 01:29 PM
Reactions to suspension have to be my favorite things on Xavier messageboard.
16 posts in and Jalen is already a lazy person that has chronic grade problems. By post 40 he will be punching horses.
Well you nailed it! This is apparently why Breeder's Cup Juvenile winner New Year's Day and now Coup de Grace have both been taken off the Derby trail due to injuries. I believe there should be a steward's inquiry regarding this and if Jalen is at fault and if he is then he should be made to become a jockey! Or we can wait until Jalen sorts things out and gives his the Derby winner this year, since he's punching out some of the good horses to set up his own pick. No matter what course he takes I hope he sorts it out before post time.
Oh c'mon. If he wasn't working hard in practice, he probably wouldn't be playing at all. Maybe he's not getting more playing time because he has Stainbrook, Philmore and Farr in front of him. He certainly has passed Stenger on the depth chart. (Maybe Stenger is lazy since he's not playing anymore. Was Farr lazy last year when he wasn't playing? Landon Amos must be lazy too.) But we don't know why he got suspended but the best guess is that he missed some classes or some mandatory study halls. Or maybe it he was late for a team meeting or two. Maybe he got drunk at Danas. We don't know. But stop calling him "lazy". That is total speculation and totally unfair.
Couldn't agree more. That said, I would also suggest that XU87 never saw a minute of playing time because HE was lazy - and NOT because he was behind Byron Larkin in the depth chart.
paulxu
01-28-2014, 01:31 PM
Gradegate!
Until you know what he did, and can then compare it to any previous and similar behavior, I suggest you stop with the "It's a pattern" stuff.
It's clearly related to academics, you're lying to yourself if you suggest it isn't. If you continue past the fourth word in my initial post, you will see that I believe, "he'll figure it out". Just like the Kennys, Mark Lyonses and Justin Martins of the world have.
Take it easy everyone. He's not the first to be suspended for not handling "responsibilities" and he won't be the last. This suspension is not a condemnation of his character or work ethic, it's just a way for Mack to remind a student-athlete (note that student comes before athlete) what his priorities should be.
murray87
01-28-2014, 01:39 PM
Dear Jalen, please listen to Sister Rose and the other academic advisers. They want the best for you and have helped many other athletes over the years. Your window of opportunity at Xavier isn't as large as you may think. With lots of hard work and listening to Coach Mack and the rest of the staff, you have the chance to play at the next level but that will be squandered if you don't maintain the grades. Don't blow this second chance!
XUFan09
01-28-2014, 01:46 PM
But really... isn't he the same guy who had some work ethic problems when it came to practicing back in the beginning? I'm worried that this seems to be a general attitude with him. He doesn't get much playing time and we all know that if you put in the time and effort in practice, you get playing time. I'm wondering if he just is lazy.
You're mixing up Jalen with Kamall Richards. There has never been anything negative said about Jalen's work ethic in practice.
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Burrcats
01-28-2014, 01:46 PM
Coach Mack zipped him up!!
blueblob06
01-28-2014, 01:51 PM
Shannon Russell @slrussell Not convinced Reynolds' issue was academic. No further details from #Xavier at this point.
Russell just tweeted this 15 minutes ago. So either - it may not be academic, or she realized she shouldn't have speculated in the first place.
Milhouse
01-28-2014, 01:53 PM
Yeah just Shannon's speculation....personally not a huge fan of her reporting
Mel Cooley XU'81
01-28-2014, 01:59 PM
Well you nailed it! This is apparently why Breeder's Cup Juvenile winner New Year's Day and now Coup de Grace have both been taken off the Derby trail due to injuries. I believe there should be a steward's inquiry regarding this and if Jalen is at fault and if he is then he should be made to become a jockey! Or we can wait until Jalen sorts things out and gives his the Derby winner this year, since he's punching out some of the good horses to set up his own pick. No matter what course he takes I hope he sorts it out before post time.
Go Boubonman! 1st 2014 Derby Post!
Yeah, baby!
(More in a few weeks.)
XU3232
01-28-2014, 02:00 PM
Yeah just Shannon's speculation....personally not a huge fan of her reporting
I'm with you on that.
XU 87
01-28-2014, 02:21 PM
It's clearly related to academics, you're lying to yourself if you suggest it isn't.
Actually, I've heard it's not related to academics (and I heard this before Shannon wrote her piece that this isn't about academics). But as I wrote above, it could be related to anything. I don't know and you don't know.
But your writing that this appears "to be a pattern" is probably dead wrong and infers that Reynolds has had a troubled history that is repeating itself.
TUclutch
01-28-2014, 02:22 PM
But really... isn't he the same guy who had some work ethic problems when it came to practicing back in the beginning? I'm worried that this seems to be a general attitude with him. He doesn't get much playing time and we all know that if you put in the time and effort in practice, you get playing time. I'm wondering if he just is lazy.
No. The guy who had work ethic problems and a bad attitude was Kamall Richards. Ive never seen anyone question JR's attitude/effort in practice. Sorry if someone already pointed out your mistake
MHettel
01-28-2014, 02:25 PM
It's got to be either an issue of falling behind on grades (academic), or skipping class (not really sure if you would consider that academic or not, since academic performance is measured with grades, and going to class is not necessarily required to achieve academic success--take it from me).
He didnt break any team or school rules, or have any issues with the law. Macks comments about "meeting his responsibilities" rules that out. He would have said violation of team rules or something.
He could have been late for practice, but Macks comments suggest that it's somethign he can work on / remedy WHILE he is suspended. And if he's suspended from the team, how could he be on time for practice? I suppose he could make Jalen show up at practice time and run stairs by himself for a week.
Any way you cut it, when I see a headline that says "suspended", I'm thinking WORST case scenario, and this seems minor and something that he can put behind him immediately.
We'll see a little more Stenger, and maybe JMart will have to play a few minutes up front so we'll see a bit more Myles Davis.
throwbackmuskie
01-28-2014, 02:26 PM
Coach Mack zipped him up!!
Lame. I bet he didn't punch a horse. I think he stole another coach in the cities lucky charms...
Actually, I've heard it's not related to academics (and I heard this before Shannon wrote her piece that this isn't about academics). But as I wrote above, it could be related to anything. I don't know and you don't know.
I hope it's academics. The other possibilities are much worse.
Juice
01-28-2014, 02:42 PM
I hope it's academics. The other possibilities are much worse.
Really? I could think of things that aren't academics that aren't worse, i.e. violated curfew, minor team rules, attending meetings, etc.
XU 87
01-28-2014, 02:48 PM
I hope it's academics. The other possibilities are much worse.
And now you're really speculating. Before you throw an X player under the bus, find out what happened first.
XUFan09
01-28-2014, 02:50 PM
You're mixing up Jalen with Kamall Richards. There has never been anything negative said about Jalen's work ethic in practice.
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Lol after correcting Muskie1000 on that mix-up, I'm apparently a "douche," according to XU2002.
casualfan
01-28-2014, 02:55 PM
Really? I could think of things that aren't academics that aren't worse, i.e. violated curfew, minor team rules, attending meetings, etc.
I think the reason a lot of people are thinking it is something more than this is the fact the suspension was not of a finite nature.
If he had issues making curfew, following minor rules, or attending meetings I think he'd be sat down for a game or two.
I think the indefinite part is the one that has people scratching their head looking for answers a bit.
Frambo
01-28-2014, 03:01 PM
didn't he sit out a game earlier in the season due to a confrontation with a coach?
Juice
01-28-2014, 03:02 PM
I think the reason a lot of people are thinking it is something more than this is the fact the suspension was not of a finite nature.
If he had issues making curfew, following minor rules, or attending meetings I think he'd be sat down for a game or two.
I think the indefinite part is the one that has people scratching their head looking for answers a bit.
Most suspensions in college are now indefinite. It sends a message that if you get your shit together then you can come back.
Muskie1000
01-28-2014, 03:02 PM
My bad I got the wrong player... I have noticed that his playing time in the last few weeks has decreased so that's probably why I thought that.
bobbiemcgee
01-28-2014, 03:12 PM
He just needs to get back in time to lead us to the FF.
casualfan
01-28-2014, 03:17 PM
Most suspensions in college are now indefinite. It sends a message that if you get your shit together then you can come back.
Most of them that you hear about are indefinite, but that is because most of the ones you hear about are for something a little more serious than skipping a class or two or missing curfew.
Josh Smith's suspension was indefinite while G'Town worked through his academic issues which turned out to be great enough to end his season.
Chane Behanan's suspension was indefinite after he had been caught smoking pot multiple times over.
Marshall Henderson's suspension was indefinite after he failed multiple drug tests.
Maybe I missed all the indefinite suspensions that were for minor infractions like the ones you listed above. I'm sure if they are out there you'll let me know.
bigdiggins
01-28-2014, 03:20 PM
Lol after correcting Muskie1000 on that mix-up, I'm apparently a "douche," according to XU2002.
Not sure what one has to do with the other? :)
XUFan09
01-28-2014, 03:25 PM
Not sure what one has to do with the other? :)
Lol.
Patrick Bateman
01-28-2014, 03:25 PM
Most of them that you hear about are indefinite, but that is because most of the ones you hear about are for something a little more serious than skipping a class or two or missing curfew.
Josh Smith's suspension was indefinite while G'Town worked through his academic issues which turned out to be great enough to end his season.
Chane Behanan's suspension was indefinite after he had been caught smoking pot multiple times over.
Marshall Henderson's suspension was indefinite after he failed multiple drug tests.
Maybe I missed all the indefinite suspensions that were for minor infractions like the ones you listed above. I'm sure if they are out there you'll let me know.
According to former coaches, if it isn't academic 99.9% of time is failed test
casualfan
01-28-2014, 03:36 PM
According to former coaches, if it isn't academic 99.9% of time is failed test
If they're going to start enforcing that stuff then maybe courtside seats for C-Weez aren't the best idea.
Bit of a mixed message.
paulxu
01-28-2014, 03:57 PM
Apropos of absolutely nothing, exactly how does that work in college sports?
Pro players have random tests and stuff, and I assume their player contracts spell out some rules for the testing, etc.
But what happens in college? Do the programs just randomly test for drugs? Never really thought about this before.
THRILLHOUSE
01-28-2014, 04:01 PM
Maybe I missed all the indefinite suspensions that were for minor infractions like the ones you listed above. I'm sure if they are out there you'll let me know.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7103029/xavier-musketeers-kenny-frease-suspended-indefinitely
GoMuskies
01-28-2014, 04:05 PM
Rick Pitino indefinitely suspends a player at least once a week it seems. Sometimes the suspensions last about as long as he did at Porcinis.
And now you're really speculating. Before you throw an X player under the bus, find out what happened first.
No I'm not. I never threw him under the bus. Relax, even your avatar is stressed out.
casualfan
01-28-2014, 04:08 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7103029/xavier-musketeers-kenny-frease-suspended-indefinitely
That was also before the season which is a little different, but your point is valid.
GetUp5
01-28-2014, 04:20 PM
That was also before the season which is a little different, but your point is valid.
Why would that be different?
We sure are quick to freak out around here. Speculating does nothing. Relax and wait to hear more news.
xu2002
01-28-2014, 04:22 PM
But what happens in college? Do the programs just randomly test for drugs? Never really thought about this before.
Yes, Xavier will randomly drug test all student athletes.
Smails
01-28-2014, 04:23 PM
Chane Behanan's suspension was indefinite after he had been caught smoking pot multiple times over.
Anybody else see that he transferred to Colorado State and think...maybe that's not the best place for Chane to be playing? Or maybe it's exactly what he was looking for..
Juice
01-28-2014, 04:24 PM
Most of them that you hear about are indefinite, but that is because most of the ones you hear about are for something a little more serious than skipping a class or two or missing curfew.
Josh Smith's suspension was indefinite while G'Town worked through his academic issues which turned out to be great enough to end his season.
Chane Behanan's suspension was indefinite after he had been caught smoking pot multiple times over.
Marshall Henderson's suspension was indefinite after he failed multiple drug tests.
Maybe I missed all the indefinite suspensions that were for minor infractions like the ones you listed above. I'm sure if they are out there you'll let me know.
Common theme with those guys minus Henderson? They didn't stop the behavior that got them in trouble. They were indefinitely suspended then were ruled out for the year after they didn't stop whatever it was. Henderson did so he came back.
casualfan
01-28-2014, 04:32 PM
Anybody else see that he transferred to Colorado State and think...maybe that's not the best place for Chane to be playing? Or maybe it's exactly what he was looking for..
I've seen this line of thinking a lot and I don't understand it. Pot is readily available to college kids whether it is legal in that state or not and it will still be against the rules for him to partake at CSU.
I guess I just don't see how him going to play in a state where pot is legal changes his situation any. It's still against the rules to him and it isn't any more available there than it would be anywhere else.
GoMuskies
01-28-2014, 04:34 PM
I just assumed he wanted to go party with Larry Eustachy.
paulxu
01-28-2014, 04:37 PM
Yes, Xavier will randomly drug test all student athletes.
Txs.
xumuskies08
01-28-2014, 04:53 PM
I haven't read the whole thread but if the suspension is academic like many have speculated I kind of think he missed a study hall or skipped a class or something of the like. I highly doubt it's anything serious given the timing of it all. If he had failed a class or his GPA was too low or something like that I think we would've found out before the semester got underway rather than 2 weeks into it.
XU 87
01-28-2014, 04:56 PM
No I'm not. I never threw him under the bus. Relax, even your avatar is stressed out.
You're not speculating? Well then please tell us, what did he do?
And when you say "this is a pattern of behavior", you infer that he's some kind of punk who keeps getting in trouble.
OH.X.MI
01-28-2014, 05:07 PM
No I'm not. I never threw him under the bus. Relax, even your avatar is stressed out.
Your going to get thrown under the bus if you don't quit all this speculating!
GoMuskies
01-28-2014, 05:10 PM
I'm willing to speculate that Jalen has done one or a number of things that either individually or collectively pissed Chris Mack the hell off.
Smails
01-28-2014, 05:13 PM
It isn't any more available there than it would be anywhere else.
Not true..I dont think you can go to the local pot store in Louisville like you can in Denver or Springs. Personally I think weed shold be legalized, period, but it is most certainly more readily available in states where is legalized. If your dealer is in class or between deliveries, you can just go grab some at the local store. I'm quite sure you can't do that in Cincinnati or Louisville.
You're not speculating? Well then please tell us, what did he do?
And when you say "this is a pattern of behavior", you infer that he's some kind of punk who keeps getting in trouble.
Since you're making what I said an enormous deal I would appreciate if you accurately quote me. I never said "this is a pattern of behavior".
I don't remember when I said or even speculated that he is a punk. You have now begun speculating about what I am supposedly speculating. So let me walk you through this.
This a very unofficial suspension since it has just been given down by a statement from Chris Mack. As witnesses to the Dez Wells saga we should all know what an official suspension and expulsion look like. This safely eliminates the possibility of any legal misdoings or conduct reviews. Further, in the statement, it is obvious that Jalen is suspended for what he is not doing or not giving enough of his focus to, NOT something wrong he did. So that eliminates any form of misbehavior. Jalen is a full scholarship student athlete, he is not allowed to work, so his "responsibilities" are pretty much get a 2.0 GPA, go to class, go to study hall and play basketball. In the quote Chris Mack specifically says this is something outside of basketball, which eliminates meetings and etc. So what does that leave us? School. Jalen has been previously suspended/ineligible for matters relating to school. There is your precious pattern. I didn't say he has a pattern because I think he's a punk. I said it because that's one more reason to believe this is an academic issue and nothing more.
XU 87
01-28-2014, 05:45 PM
Never mind.
casualfan
01-28-2014, 06:02 PM
Not true..I dont think you can go to the local pot store in Louisville like you can in Denver or Springs. Personally I think weed shold be legalized, period, but it is most certainly more readily available in states where is legalized. If your dealer is in class or between deliveries, you can just go grab some at the local store. I'm quite sure you can't do that in Cincinnati or Louisville.
If you don't think a college kid, especially one with the profile of a Chane Behanan, has access to pot 24/7 I'm not sure what to tell you.
As a separate point it's not like you can run to the gas station in Colorado and pickup a back of left handed cigarettes. There are only a few dozen of the stores open throughout the state and most of them are in Denver.
paulxu
01-28-2014, 06:09 PM
I'll bet Bobbie relocated close to one.
LA Muskie
01-28-2014, 07:52 PM
Apropos of absolutely nothing, exactly how does that work in college sports?
Pro players have random tests and stuff, and I assume their player contracts spell out some rules for the testing, etc.
But what happens in college? Do the programs just randomly test for drugs? Never really thought about this before.
The NCAA and most conferences require each school to HAVE a policy, but the policies themselves differ from school to school (or, in the case of some conferences, from conference to conference).
LA Muskie
01-28-2014, 07:57 PM
Since you're making what I said an enormous deal I would appreciate if you accurately quote me. I never said "this is a pattern of behavior".
I don't remember when I said or even speculated that he is a punk. You have now begun speculating about what I am supposedly speculating. So let me walk you through this.
This a very unofficial suspension since it has just been given down by a statement from Chris Mack. As witnesses to the Dez Wells saga we should all know what an official suspension and expulsion look like. This safely eliminates the possibility of any legal misdoings or conduct reviews. Further, in the statement, it is obvious that Jalen is suspended for what he is not doing or not giving enough of his focus to, NOT something wrong he did. So that eliminates any form of misbehavior. Jalen is a full scholarship student athlete, he is not allowed to work, so his "responsibilities" are pretty much get a 2.0 GPA, go to class, go to study hall and play basketball. In the quote Chris Mack specifically says this is something outside of basketball, which eliminates meetings and etc. So what does that leave us? School. Jalen has been previously suspended/ineligible for matters relating to school. There is your precious pattern. I didn't say he has a pattern because I think he's a punk. I said it because that's one more reason to believe this is an academic issue and nothing more.
I'm not sure where you are going with "official" vs "unofficial" suspension. He has been suspended from the team. That's as "official" as it gets or needs to be. He has not been expelled" or even "suspended" from the university. He's still a student. That's the difference between the two situations. They are as different as apples and rainbow colored unicorns.
LadyMuskie
01-28-2014, 08:10 PM
I'm willing to speculate that Jalen has done one or a number of things that either individually or collectively pissed Chris Mack the hell off.
Or . . . (cue the music) . . . did the evil hand of Fr. Graham once again reach across campus and force Chris Mack to do something he didn't really want to do?!?!?!? Will we ever know? Who can we really blame? Where's Gladdenguy?
I'm not sure where you are going with "official" vs "unofficial" suspension. He has been suspended from the team. That's as "official" as it gets or needs to be. He has not been expelled" or even "suspended" from the university. He's still a student. That's the difference between the two situations. They are as different as apples and rainbow colored unicorns.
That's what I meant. Team suspension being unofficial versus University suspension being official. Thanks for the clarification.
LA Muskie
01-28-2014, 08:41 PM
That's what I meant. Team suspension being unofficial versus University suspension being official. Thanks for the clarification.
OK. My bad then!
bobbiemcgee
01-28-2014, 09:01 PM
Or . . . (cue the music) . . . did the evil hand of Fr. Graham once again reach across campus and force Chris Mack to do something he didn't really want to do?!?!?!? Will we ever know? Who can we really blame? Where's Gladdenguy?
I blame Dez Wells. (SARCASM Font) Also, if he hadn't sued we'd have the #1 recruiting class instead of #10.
LadyMuskie
01-28-2014, 09:10 PM
I blame Dez Wells. (SARCASM Font) Also, if he hadn't sued we'd have the #1 recruiting class instead of #10.
Come on, Bobbie! Dez Wells was just a red herring (like communism).
X-band '01
01-28-2014, 09:28 PM
I just assumed he wanted to go party with Larry Eustachy.
He wasn't suspended for a "Cool Stranger," was he?
gladdenguy
01-28-2014, 11:20 PM
I do blame this on Mike Sham. Get back quick Jalen. We need at least 7 more Big East wins.
wkrq59
01-29-2014, 02:05 AM
Jalen has been suspended. He can come back says Chris. It's up to him says Chris. Everything else we poor humans can do or say is absolutely useless, pointless, and just plain unnecessary. But like spelling word writing punishments frrom back in our gradee school days, speculation is useless, leads to arguments which are the staff of life for some of us and otherwise ---aw fagetaboutit. Just never forget, 76-53, 64-47. Oh, and Go Muskies.
P.S. Too cold to type. Bedtime
:drool::whew::pissedoff:
Patrick Bateman
01-29-2014, 08:57 AM
This is why Chris Mack oversigned for next year.
RealDeal
01-29-2014, 09:17 AM
This is why Chris Mack oversigned for next year.
Can you try a little harder, this trolling is weak. Have a cup of coffee and then come back. Thanks!
bobbiemcgee
01-29-2014, 11:45 AM
I'll bet Bobbie relocated close to one.
< 3 blocks and I got a red card. Discounts and no tax for us Senior Citizens. Mama enjoying the Grandkids. Mama ain't happy,......nobody happy. Still a Bengal fan in a sea of the wrong color Orange. Expect to see St. Peter someday and he'll say "Bengal fan?" Come right in, you suffered enough.
Patrick Bateman
01-29-2014, 11:52 AM
Can you try a little harder, this trolling is weak. Have a cup of coffee and then come back. Thanks!
Just saying X has spent 2 years with this guy, he had to go prep, then had to sit out a year. It shouldn't be a surprise and Mack may know that.
bobbiemcgee
01-29-2014, 12:11 PM
This is why Chris Mack oversigned for next year.
Just saying X has spent 2 years with this guy, he had to go prep, then had to sit out a year. It shouldn't be a surprise and Mack may know that.
Guys can flunk out. Quit for more playing time. Get kicked out for knuckleheaded moves. Got to be proactive nowadays.
xudash
01-29-2014, 12:13 PM
Jalen has been suspended. He can come back says Chris. It's up to him says Chris. Everything else we poor humans can do or say is absolutely useless, pointless, and just plain unnecessary. But like spelling word writing punishments frrom back in our gradee school days, speculation is useless, leads to arguments which are the staff of life for some of us and otherwise ---aw fagetaboutit. Just never forget, 76-53, 64-47. Oh, and Go Muskies.
P.S. Too cold to type. Bedtime
:drool::whew::pissedoff:
Wisdom.
XU 87
01-29-2014, 12:58 PM
Just saying X has spent 2 years with this guy, he had to go prep, then had to sit out a year. It shouldn't be a surprise and Mack may know that.
Shut up.
throwbackmuskie
01-29-2014, 01:20 PM
I think a kick in the butt is what he needs. Watching him on the sidelines during games you can tell he loves his teammates and Xavier. Hope he gets it together, whatever it maybe. I think his future is bright at X.
Jalen Reynolds absolutely loves X. That much is for certain. Hope he gets it together.
muskieman
01-29-2014, 04:13 PM
I think a guy who has paid his way to go to X even if it was for one year should gets a little space from all the speculation of what he did or what he didn't do. I am sure he will come back and make us all realize this was a matter that Chris and JR will take care of....with the help if Sister Rose if needed.
wkrq59
01-29-2014, 04:14 PM
Shut up.
And he sayeth unto Caesar, FU and the horsey you rode in on and verily, 87 sayeth the truth. Go 87 and never forget---see previous post. Still too damned cold..q Oh, and public reps and joys unto thee and fie upon thy enemics
I think a guy who has paid his way to go to X even if it was for one year should gets a little space from all the speculation of what he did or what he didn't do. I am sure he will come back and make us all realize this was a matter that Chris and JR will take care of....with the help if Sister Rose if needed.
You really do need to come around this board more often.
XU 87
01-29-2014, 05:15 PM
I think a guy who has paid his way to go to X even if it was for one year should gets a little space from all the speculation of what he did or what he didn't do. I am sure he will come back and make us all realize this was a matter that Chris and JR will take care of....with the help if Sister Rose if needed.
You're crazy. I think we should wildly speculate and reach conclusions like, "He's lazy and a troublemaker."
I think a guy who has paid his way to go to X even if it was for one year should gets a little space from all the speculation of what he did or what he didn't do. I am sure he will come back and make us all realize this was a matter that Chris and JR will take care of....with the help if Sister Rose if needed.
Should I keep my eye open for your next kernel of wisdom sometime around 2016? Thank you for wrapping that up succinctly.
RoadWarrior
01-29-2014, 07:00 PM
If they're going to start enforcing that stuff then maybe courtside seats for C-Weez aren't the best idea.
Bit of a mixed message.
C-Weez, Adrian Graves and PacMan Jones...you'd think Mario could find better guests???
chico
01-29-2014, 07:48 PM
Wow, you stay away from the board for a little while only to miss people going off the rails.
Wow, you stay away from the board for a little while only to miss people going off the rails.
Did you mean the player or the posters? :-)
xavierj
01-29-2014, 10:05 PM
C-Weez, Adrian Graves and PacMan Jones...you'd think Mario could find better guests???
Why? What did CJ and Adrian do wrong?
GIMMFD
01-30-2014, 02:19 AM
Talking to someone close to the situation, they first laughed really hard, then said "it's not my business to say." I don't think it's academic issues to be honest, I think it's more so on the lines of team meetings, etc. as mentioned before. It doesn't really matter to speculate however, let's just wish him well, hope this is a thing of the past, and look forward to seeing him back on the court. Just because he has had prior academic issues (which don't seem like his fault) doesn't mean we should just assume.
X-man
01-30-2014, 05:56 AM
Talking to someone close to the situation, they first laughed really hard, then said "it's not my business to say." I don't think it's academic issues to be honest, I think it's more so on the lines of team meetings, etc. as mentioned before. It doesn't really matter to speculate however, let's just wish him well, hope this is a thing of the past, and look forward to seeing him back on the court. Just because he has had prior academic issues (which don't seem like his fault) doesn't mean we should just assume.
That is correct. It has nothing to do with academics, and I predict that Jalen will be back with the team fairly soon.
GetUp5
01-30-2014, 07:57 AM
C-Weez, Adrian Graves and PacMan Jones...you'd think Mario could find better guests???
I, too, would like you to explain what Adrian and Weez have done wrong.
How dare you insult a legend like Weez. That guy is the man. I was in the same class at X, played a different sport and he was nothing but a good dude to anyone he encountered. Plus, he's C-Weez. Enough of the blasphemy.
Ledgewood
01-30-2014, 08:02 AM
I vote for the next person to attack CJ to be banned for life and flogged in public.
Titanxman04
01-30-2014, 08:03 AM
I vote for the next person to attack CJ to be banned for life and flogged in public.
At least tarred and feathered.
Muskie
01-30-2014, 09:00 AM
I vote for the next person to attack CJ to be banned for life and flogged in public.
I'm. Not the biggest fan of CJ.
GoMuskies
01-30-2014, 09:18 AM
OK, who's gonna ban Muskie? Is Stonebreaker around?
BandAid
01-30-2014, 10:15 AM
I like CJ.
But I do think there are better ambassadors for the program
throwbackmuskie
01-30-2014, 10:31 AM
Interesting comment considering Matt is your avatar.............................
So you use your job title as your screenname? Interesting....
Milhouse
01-30-2014, 10:32 AM
So Butler gets it's second Big East victory and Floorsweeper comes back.
Guess someone is feeling confident.
GoMuskies
01-30-2014, 10:34 AM
So Butler gets it's second Big East victory
I hadn't seen that score. Geez, we'd best not lose to the Pirates Saturday.
XU 87
01-30-2014, 11:01 AM
Interesting comment considering Matt is your avatar.............................
https://www.google.com/#q=big+east+standings+men%27s+basketball
I told you that Butler needs to improve their recruiting. But you wouldn't listen.
bobbiemcgee
01-30-2014, 11:14 AM
So you use your job title as your screenname? Interesting....
http://www.etsy.com/listing/155239533/sweeping-butler-mustache-man-kitschy?utm_source=google&utm_medium=product_listing_promoted&utm_campaign=vintage_low&gclid=CM3QuK2lprwCFYqDfgodQ1EAqw
Milhouse
01-30-2014, 11:31 AM
2-7.
nuts4xu
01-30-2014, 11:34 AM
2 Final Fours
Come back when your team can compete in this league...which could take a few years.
Until then, your comments are quite irrelevant.
XU 87
01-30-2014, 11:35 AM
Odd, I don't remember arguing Butler isn't in need of better recruits. But hey " You go girl"..................
You have a very selective memory. But keep stealing those recruits from MAC schools and we'll have this discussion every year. Good Lord, you even lost a recruit to Florida Gulf Coast this past fall. Losing two of your top recruiting targets to Xavier is one thing, but losing a recruit to Florida Gulf Coast is a diffferent matter.
GoMuskies
01-30-2014, 11:36 AM
Why is floorsweeper no longer banned?
ballyhoohoo
01-30-2014, 12:04 PM
So you use your job title as your screenname? Interesting....
So was "chrinicmasturbatorwholivesinhismomsbasement" taken?
94GRAD
01-30-2014, 12:05 PM
So was "chronicmasturbatorwholivesinhismomsbasement" taken?
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Xavier
01-30-2014, 12:47 PM
You have a very selective memory. But keep stealing those recruits from MAC schools and we'll have this discussion every year. Good Lord, you even lost a recruit to Florida Gulf Coast this past fall. Losing two of your top recruiting targets to Xavier is one thing, but losing a recruit to Florida Gulf Coast is a diffferent matter.
Well, I can understand why someone goes to the MAC over Butler. Would you rather be bottom dweller Big East (where Butler currently stands) or have a chance in the MAC to maybe get to the NCAA tournament. Florida Gulf Coast...yo.
Cheesehead
01-30-2014, 01:05 PM
Sweeper puffs out his...or her chest after 2 conference wins. Hilarious.
Xtemporaneous
01-30-2014, 01:24 PM
2 Final Fours
Ah yes the Buffalo Bills of college basketball. Where are they now?
X-man
01-30-2014, 01:39 PM
Why is floorsweeper no longer banned?
My sentiments exactly. Please keep this idiot from hijacking this board. And make it permanent.
chico
01-30-2014, 02:33 PM
See you next month guys..................
I know when we won't see you - in March.
American X
01-30-2014, 02:41 PM
He was night putting, just putting at night with the fifteen-year-old daughter of the Dean...
ArizonaXUGrad
01-30-2014, 03:56 PM
I love Xavier and that we are pretty good this year but Butler isn't the bottom feeder we all think they are. They have a first year coach and will suffer with recruiting like we did but will be back soon. Remember one of their better players is out for the year, however, they are lacking a good PG and will continue to struggle in this league until they have one.
XU has Semaj/Dee as primary ball handlers with Randolph being groomed for it. Myles isn't incapably of it and we have Sumner and Abell coming in. Butler just doesn't have that kind of talent who can handle the rock.
X-band '01
01-30-2014, 08:34 PM
Ah yes the Buffalo Bills of college basketball. Where are they now?
Don't insult the Bills by comparing them to Butler.
I think the Texas Rangers would be a better comparison.
ammtd34
02-06-2014, 04:21 PM
Reynolds is practicing.
Reynolds is practicing.
Very nice news. Let's hope this is all behind us with lessons learned... and he can give us some much needed help!!!
bleedXblue
02-06-2014, 05:48 PM
Great to hear. Hopefully, he comes back with some fresh perspective and a healthy appetite to succeed
LA Muskie
02-06-2014, 08:40 PM
Great to hear. Looking forward to having Jalen back on the team. Can't help but note the contradiction there, though. According to Shannon Russell (and others behind a pay wall) he is not yet back as a member of the team. But he's practicing. If one of you can explain how exactly that works, I'd appreciate it.
Probably just a PR snafu -- they could (and probably should) have just said he was suspended indefinitely from GAMES and dealt with the practices as they saw fit...
bleedXblue
02-06-2014, 08:49 PM
Great to hear. Looking forward to having Jalen back on the team. Can't help but note the contradiction there, though. According to Shannon Russell (and others behind a pay wall) he is not yet back as a member of the team. But he's practicing. If one of you can explain how exactly that works, I'd appreciate it.
Probably just a PR snafu -- they could (and probably should) have just said he was suspended indefinitely from GAMES and dealt with the practices as they saw fit...
Agree. You can practice but not play. Seems a little weird only being suspended from games.
We can call it Jalengate
XUFan09
02-06-2014, 09:12 PM
Wasn't he suspended from both before though? It seems like they're saying, "Okay, you can come back to practice, but you still have to earn your right to play in the next game."
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I am glad we have consistently high standards, even if I don't have the access to understand how they work. Our track record speaks for itself, and I hope we keep aiming high scholastically.
GIMMFD
02-07-2014, 11:22 AM
What does that even mean...
Muskie
02-07-2014, 11:39 AM
Huh?
DoubleD86
02-07-2014, 12:00 PM
Someone mentioned it on the Scout board, but I think it is likely: He has been reinstated (hence practicing) but they don't want to announce he is back until as late as possible to keep Providence "guessing".
Guys, keep the rumors about players off the board. They will be deleted.
bigdiggins
02-07-2014, 12:47 PM
Guys, keep the rumors about players off the board. They will be deleted.
The fact that he is practicing is a rumor? It's been reported by multiple credible sources and would have been fairly easy for some of them to substantiate based on their access to see a practice.
casualfan
02-07-2014, 12:52 PM
Someone mentioned it on the Scout board, but I think it is likely: He has been reinstated (hence practicing) but they don't want to announce he is back until as late as possible to keep Providence "guessing".
You think the presence of a guy who has scored 12 points total in Big East play is going to affect Providence's gameplan?
XUFan09
02-07-2014, 01:23 PM
Guys, keep the rumors about players off the board. They will be deleted.
Sorry, thought that was fairly common knowledge.
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Not to speak for xeus, but I'm pretty sure he's referring to a post that has since been deleted and not the fact the that Jalen Reynolds is practicing with the team.
XU 87
02-07-2014, 02:03 PM
You think the presence of a guy who has scored 12 points total in Big East play is going to affect Providence's gameplan?
Maybe. If Providence thinks he's not playing, they may not discuss in meetings and practice how to guard him and what he can or cannot do. On top of that, what advantage is it for X to announce he's playing? None.
MHettel
02-07-2014, 02:31 PM
Guys, keep the rumors about players off the board. They will be deleted.
Yeah, no rumors This isn't some kind of internet message board.
WTF?
Pete Delkus
02-07-2014, 03:28 PM
No rumors, right. got it.
Marge Schott is dead. FACT!
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