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BMoreX
01-19-2014, 06:32 PM
@slrussell: #Xavier freshman forward Kamall Richards has torn the ACL in his right knee and is out for the season.

anXUfan
01-19-2014, 06:39 PM
Terrible news. You have to feel for him. What a tough season.

paulxu
01-19-2014, 06:39 PM
Damn. Good luck in your recovery Kamall. Hope it goes smoothly.

mistabeecee41
01-19-2014, 06:41 PM
ouch. tough year for him. prayers for a speedy recovery. good news is with sports medicine nowadays he could be back in as little as 9 months.

BMoreX
01-19-2014, 06:45 PM
@slrussell: Xavier looking into possible medical redshirt.

Retire33
01-19-2014, 06:48 PM
Possibly a quick end to a career in a Xavier uniform. Very similar to Jay Canty; although roles were much different

TUclutch
01-19-2014, 07:01 PM
Possibly a quick end to a career in a Xavier uniform. Very similar to Jay Canty; although roles were much different

Canty actually had a good attitude from what I remember. KR was likely not gonna be back as it was

Musketeer_15
01-19-2014, 07:13 PM
Best of luck Kamall!

GreatWhiteNorth
01-19-2014, 07:13 PM
It is his LEFT knee. Maybe he did not warm up enough or that he tried too hard? Just wondering. This is not good for him if he is thinking of transferring. I wish him complete recovery.

XUFan09
01-19-2014, 07:48 PM
It is his LEFT knee. Maybe he did not warm up enough or that he tried too hard? Just wondering. This is not good for him if he is thinking of transferring. I wish him complete recovery.

I don't think ACL injuries can be boiled down to a straightforward explanation as to how they could have been prevented.

Masterofreality
01-19-2014, 08:24 PM
Kamall is a Musketeer.....until he's not.

Nothing but support for the kid.

xudash
01-19-2014, 08:29 PM
Kamall is a Musketeer.....until he's not.

Nothing but support for the kid.

+1

Thank you.

LA Muskie
01-19-2014, 08:55 PM
@slrussell: Xavier looking into possible medical redshirt.

Ain't gonna happen. We're in the 2nd half of our season. See NCAA Bylaw 14.2.4.

Lloyd Braun
01-19-2014, 09:01 PM
Ain't gonna happen. We're in the 2nd half of our season. See NCAA Bylaw 14.2.4.

I thought it was that he could not have played in the 2nd half of the season and not necessarily when the injury occurred (along with <30% of games)He hasn't played in the 2nd half I don't think.

*edit- looks like it is in fact when injury occurs.

LA Muskie
01-19-2014, 09:15 PM
I thought it was that he could not have played in the 2nd half of the season and not necessarily when the injury occurred (along with <30% of games)He hasn't played in the 2nd half I don't think.

No, it's triggered by the injury not the last appearance (see below). But with the conference tourney and NCAA championships I'm not so sure we're actually past the mid-way point yet.

NCAA Bylaw 14.2.4, Hardship Waiver, provides that a student-athlete may be granted an additional year of competition by the conference or the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement for reasons of "hardship", which is defined as an incapacity resulting from an injury or illness that has occurred under all of the following conditions:

a. The incapacitating injury or illness occurs in one of the four seasons of intercollegiate competition at any two-year or four-year collegiate institutions or occurs after the first day of classes in the student-athlete’s senior year in high school;

b. The injury or illness occurs prior to the first competition of the second half of the playing season that concludes with the NCAA championship in that sport (see Bylaw 14.2.4.3.4) and results in incapacity to compete for the remainder of that playing season;

c. In team sports, the injury or illness occurs when the student-athlete has not participated in more than three contests or dates of competition (whichever is applicable to that sport) or 30 percent (whichever number is greater) of the institution's scheduled or completed contests or dates of competition in his or her sport. Only scheduled or completed competition against outside participants during the playing season that concludes with the NCAA championship, or, if so designated, during the official NCAA championship playing season in that sport (e.g., spring baseball, fall soccer), shall be countable under this limitation in calculating both the number of contests or dates of competition in which the student-athlete has participated and the number of scheduled or completed contests or dates of competition during that season in the sport. Dates of competition that are exempted (e.g., alumni contests, foreign team in U.S.) from the maximum permissible number of contests or dates of competition shall count toward the number of contests or dates in which the student-athlete has participated and the number of scheduled or completed contests or dates of competition in the season, except for scrimmages and exhibition contests that are specifically identified as such in the sport's Bylaw 17 playing and practice season regulations. Scrimmages and exhibition contests that are not exempted from the maximum permissible number of contests or dates of competition may be excluded from the calculation only if they are identified as such by in the sport's Bylaw 17 playing and practice season regulations; and

d. In individual sports, the injury or illness occurs when the student-athlete has not participated in more than three dates of competition or 30 percent (whichever number is greater) of the maximum permissible number of dates of competition as set forth in Bylaw 17 plus one date for a conference championship (e.g., gymnastics: 13+1=14, wrestling: 16+1=17), regardless of whether the team participates in the conference championship, provided the institution is a member of a conference and the conference holds a championship event in the applicable sport. Dates of competition that are exempted(e.g., alumni contests, foreign team in U.S.) from the maximum permissible number of dates of competition do not count toward the number of dates in which the student-athlete has participated.

Team Sport:
- Number of scheduled contests (can add 1 for conference championship only if the team participates in the championship): ________
- 30% limitation (may round up to the next whole number):​________
- Maximum number of contests permitted for applicable sport: __________

Individual Sport:
- Number of dates of competition (add 1 for conference championship):__​
- 30% limitation (may round up to the next whole number): ____________​
- Maximum number of dates of competition permitted for applicable sport:_______

GIMMFD
01-19-2014, 09:18 PM
NCAA has too many stupid rules to be honest. I hate it, he has barely played, he deserves a medical redshirt. There shouldn't have to be a hundred hearings, etc. for this. Wish him a speedy recovery, and hope he's fine...

LA Muskie
01-19-2014, 09:18 PM
NCAA has too many stupid rules to be honest. I hate it, he has barely played, he deserves a medical redshirt. There shouldn't have to be a hundred hearings, etc. for this. Wish him a speedy recovery, and hope he's fine...

No argument here.

DC Muskie
01-19-2014, 09:36 PM
How many minutes has he played? Just sucks for the kid. I hope for a quick recovery.

GoMuskies
01-19-2014, 09:41 PM
I don't really think this is the case to lobby for NCAA reform. If he had not been injured, he would not have played a meaningful minute the rest of the season, and he would not have been eligible for a redshirt. The injury really doesn't change anything from that perspective.

I don't know if he's planning to come back or not, but if he's not planning to come back the silver lining would be that the timing of the injury is not that bad in that he'd have a full season to sit out and get healthy. He'd have almost 22 months until his next game action.

LA Muskie
01-19-2014, 09:46 PM
I don't really think this is the case to lobby for NCAA reform. If he had not been injured, he would not have played a meaningful minute the rest of the season, and he would not have been eligible for a redshirt. The injury really doesn't change anything from that perspective.

I don't know if he's planning to come back or not, but if he's not planning to come back the silver lining would be that the timing of the injury is not that bad in that he'd have a full season to sit out and get healthy. He'd have almost 22 months until his next game action.

I was thinking the same thing. It would have been better if it happened before the start of 2nd semester (as he would have qualified for the waiver *and* still would have had a chance to play next year) but otherwise it's about as good as these circumstances can be.

JAPER
01-19-2014, 09:49 PM
Just hoping for a quick recovery here.

XU-PA
01-19-2014, 10:46 PM
Certainly hope for a succesful surgery and quick recovery. Let's look forward to seeing him back at Musketeer Madness!

blobfan
01-19-2014, 11:15 PM
Damn. Good luck in your recovery Kamall. Hope it goes smoothly.
Ditto...

Kamall is a Musketeer.....until he's not.

Nothing but support for the kid.
...and ditto.

LA Muskie
01-20-2014, 01:56 AM
I should add that I'm neither presuming that he will or should leave. As far as I'm concerned he should graduate a Muskie. Whether he plays another game or not.

wkrq59
01-20-2014, 05:31 AM
+1
Thank you.

MOR, I'm with you and Dash. This kid has just experienced one of the true misfortunes for an athlete and some of us are talking about a medical redshirt and others the answer to a problem and others making it easier or tougher to transfer and I'm saying HUH ????? This kid is Xavier. He is a brother. He is damnit, one of us as we all like to think about being the Xavier Nation, let's act like it. Oh and never forget, 76-53, 64-47. Go Muskies, Come back Kamall.

GoMuskies
01-20-2014, 09:19 AM
Good Lord. This is a message board. We discuss things here.

Musketeer_15
01-20-2014, 10:54 AM
I should add that I'm neither presuming that he will or should leave. As far as I'm concerned he should graduate a Muskie. Whether he plays another game or not.

Good response. We should be wishing that all current students, even if they never see the court or play any sport, the best of luck and that they all graduate as Muskies

blobfan
01-20-2014, 11:00 AM
Good Lord. This is a message board. We discuss things here.

Yes, but I thought there was a tacit agreement to not discuss transfers in the public forums. I'd certainly hate for one of the players to trip across random speculation and end up feeling unwanted by the fans.

danaandvictory
01-20-2014, 11:05 AM
No, it's triggered by the injury not the last appearance (see below). But with the conference tourney and NCAA championships I'm not so sure we're actually past the mid-way point yet.

http://rushthecourt.net/2011/02/21/saint-marys-adds-a-31st-regular-season-game/

A few years back Weber State actually scheduled a game with St. Mary's after the conference tournaments in order to hit the number of games necessary to trigger a medical redshirt for Damien Lillard.

Always Learning
01-20-2014, 11:29 AM
Count me in with MOR and Q. A MUSKETEER suffers a debilitating injury, one mentions X checking into a medical red-shirt, and OMG the board explodes with NCAA rule book, NCAA interpretations, transfer possibilities, yadda, yadda.
Loved Aaron Williams visit, and others like DW earlier. Those guys been where these guys wanna go, and they get ears when they talk about how you get there. Chris tells them these things every day, but they perk up when it comes from outside.
Go X

xu82
01-20-2014, 04:10 PM
Very sorry to hear about the injury. It's a terrible thing to have happen, but the medical side of things has come so far it's not the same injury it used to be. My son tore his ACL in spring football, had surgery June 24 and was back on the basketball court for a Thanksgiving hoops tournament. Far from 100%, but that's only 5 months! The emotional recovery was almost as hard as the physical part. Get well soon!