Need Some Dirt on Dayton

[fordhamrams26]

Hey Musketeer Fans,
My name is John Winecki and I am a student at Fordham....reason I signed up here is cause tomorrow we got a HUGE game against Dayton, (You're favorite team, I know), and I was wondering if you guys could help us out by giving me some ammo that we as students can use against them tomorrow night...Obviously we can pick out a few players and what not, make fun of Archie cause he's short, but that's all obvious..is there anything else you guys know of that might help rattle them a bit? Thanks, and good luck the rest of the way in the Big East this year.

[GoMuskies]

Bring watermelon. And pictures of Jimmy Carter.

[MHettel]

Hey Musketeer Fans,
My name is John Winecki and I am a student at Fordham....reason I signed up here is cause tomorrow we got a HUGE game against Dayton, (You're favorite team, I know), and I was wondering if you guys could help us out by giving me some ammo that we as students can use against them tomorrow night...Obviously we can pick out a few players and what not, make fun of Archie cause he's short, but that's all obvious..is there anything else you guys know of that might help rattle them a bit? Thanks, and good luck the rest of the way in the Big East this year.

You could simply remind them that they are Dayton.

[fordhamrams26]

The watermelon might be useful, but I doubt we can use the Jimmy Carter thing, cause that really just applies to you guys....which is remarkable really..that's just sad that they haven't won since JC was President. And trust me, I go to Fordham. I KNOW sad.

[Smails]

Jimmy Carter only works for Xavier fans...but damn that would piss them off. Here are a coupe off the top of my head

1) They were convinced they were getting an invite to the BE...and it didn't happen
2) Matt Kavanaugh was booted from school last year for being naughy with an underage co-ed..allegedly
3) Their arena was once shut down because there was an overflow of sewage flowing into it from the Miami river
4) If you're over 50 and a fan of Dayton, it's an unwritten rule that you must wear a red sweater vest to the games

[Always Learning]

Let them know that nobody goes to UD. Sent there, yes, but never by choice.

[nuts4xu]

Feel free to mention every one of the ud fans is an inbred hillbilly from a hick town.

Most of our material deals with their inferiority as a program. Tough to come up with material for a Fordham fan. Your program hasn't experienced much success, even compared to dayton.

I will root for you and Fordham to beat dayton, as I always root against them. Shame you guys can't develop a better program, the NYC market is overdue for some college basketball success.

[RoseyMuskie]

I don't think the Jimmy Carter topic is untouchable - can you imagine a Fordham fan trolling them with a JC head? It would definitely incite some sort of delusional thread on UD. Probably due to my bias, but I think it would really agitate them.

If I were you, I'd ride Kavanaugh all game.

Juwan Staten might be a sore subject still.

Not trying to rip on Fordham, but a lot of my other dirt is based upon basketball success. Good luck tomorrow, though. A Fordham victory over UD would bring happiness to many X fans.

[BMoreX]

I would troll the shit out of their fan base with a Jimmy Carter fathead.

[X-man]

Bring a picture of a fire hydrant to go along with the picture of a watermelon.

[94GRAD]

Kavanaugh head that says Kavanaughty. A sign that says- Dayton hosts more NCAA games than plays.

[XULucho27]

Kavano-means-no.

[ammtd34]

Kavano-means-no.

My sister spent two years at UD (transferred to Wittenberg). She said this is actually a saying around campus right now.

I think a watermelon and a Jimmy Carter head would be hilarious. Archie Miller's house was broken into last summer. I'm not sure how you could use that and it's probably mean spirited, but whatever.

[joe titan]

First many Dayton players and fans are not necessarily quick minded to comprehend much trash talking let alone become rattled by same.

Nonetheless, posters of Sean Miller driving a blue Buick and red Lexus coupled with Archie driving a red Yugo might be effective (but in fine print please include an apology to XU).

If Archie's wife/GF (both) attend the game, you could find a few clowns to hurl insults her way; this is really effective if Archie's wife/GF happens to be a graduate of your school and a member of the school athletic HOF.

I doubt folks here would object if several Fordham faithful were attired in papal gear.

Anything which reminds Dayton they are playing a conference road game should provide you an advantage.

Ask Bucky Bockhorn if he heard about Connie Dierking.

A sign asking Dayton if XU has returned their calls about future scheduling might raise their ire a bit; or maybe a formal invitation that Fordham wants to be Dayton's new rival since XU and SLU have declined. You will need some silly trophy to be part of the rivalry.

A poster of Ed Young shooting a short jumper circa 1984 appropriately captioned as the last good shot Dayton ever made or similar could win their hearts.

[Masterofreality]

Can you bring a Big Head of Kavanaugh with Condoms hanging all over it?

Ahhhh, maybe would be confiscated.

How about dressing up like Ghosts, because that is what the city is at night..a Ghost Town?

The best sign would be, though- "Dayton...we host the NCAA, not play in it".

[GoMuskies]

The best sign would be, though- "Dayton...we host the NCAA, not play in it".

Not sure that's a great tack for Fordham to take. They were last in the Tournament in 1992. The time before that Digger Phelps was their head coach!

[ammtd34]

Not sure that's a great tack for Fordham to take. They were last in the Tournament in 1992. The time before that Digger Phelps was their head coach!

Yeah, but if I went to Fordham, I wouldn't care about that. I'd know that my school sucked, so I'd just look for ways to insult everyone else. It would be the only way basketball season could be fun.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Seeing that there will be 500 people at the game, these signs should be seen pretty easily. Watermelons for sure!!! How about a sign that's says "Is Xavier playing at Madison Square Gardens tonight?"

[GoMuskies]

On a completely unrelated note, the only time I got to see Xavier at Rose Hill was the one game Xavier lost to Fordham in close to 20 years in the A-10. It was Miller's first year.

[xubrew]

When was the last time Fordham beat Dayton?? You might want to make sure it has happened since Jimmy Carter. Otherwise they may think the FU fans are taunting their own team.

[GoMuskies]

When was the last time Fordham beat Dayton?? You might want to make sure it has happened since Jimmy Carter. Otherwise they may think the FU fans are taunting their own team.

Please. You know Dayton had to play them on the road at LEAST every other year for the last 20, right?

Somewhat shockingly, UD has only lost three times to Fordham in the Bronx since they both joined the A-10. UD is 7-3 at Rose Hill over that span.

[kyxu]

"I thought we were playing Xavier"

[chico]

Use the classic quote - "The best thing about Dayton is seeing it in my rearview mirror." Or another one from Dave Attell "What's a fun thing to do in Dayton? Pack up and get the f*** out."

[Musketeer_15]

A sign could say "Dayton has more banners for NCAA tournament games hosted than games played in" or maybe "UD, why don't you play Wright State?". I know the Wright State thing is a very soft subject with them. You could also say, "UD, how does it feel to be stuck in the A10 with us?"

[xudash]

Hey Musketeer Fans,
My name is John Winecki and I am a student at Fordham....reason I signed up here is cause tomorrow we got a HUGE game against Dayton, (You're favorite team, I know), and I was wondering if you guys could help us out by giving me some ammo that we as students can use against them tomorrow night...Obviously we can pick out a few players and what not, make fun of Archie cause he's short, but that's all obvious..is there anything else you guys know of that might help rattle them a bit? Thanks, and good luck the rest of the way in the Big East this year.

It's alway fun to help out a fellow, classy Jesuit-oriented individual: consider the following sign:

CAUTION: KAVANAUGH JUST SIGNED UP FOR EHARMONY!

Otherwise, I kinda agree with Rosey if you could position it the right way. UD cannot stand the idea that a certain core group of Jesuit schools may have conspired against their inclusion in the Big East. Obviously, it had nothing to do with that and everything to do with UD not being remotely worthy of inclusion, but that's how they think sometimes.

If you guys hold up a Jimmy Carter/Obama sign along with "they won't play you anymore, so new Jesuit streak begins here" or something to that effect, at least you have a nexus to the picture. Believe me, they don't like being reminded of such abject failure.

And Go Rams!!!

[Pablo's Brother]

How about this poster:

Fordham has a better chance getting into the Big East than UD.

just sayin...

[Masterofreality]

Sign:

New York- City that never Sleeps.
dayton - Shitty that never Sleeps.

Uh, may not get by the censors. I'll try again.

New York= Wall Street
dayton = LOL Street

[Masterofreality]

One last thing that is clean.

How about making up a scarecrow with a Matt Kavanaugh face and prop it up "Weekend at Bernie's" style in the student section?

A scarecrow moves about as well as flat Matt.

Or, sign:

"dayton- always second...Just like the Wright Brothers."

Now THAT is something that reflects a Fordham education. (Gustav Whitehead)

[xu82]

One last thing that is clean.

How about making up a scarecrow with a Matt Kavanaugh face and prop it up "Weekend at Bernie's" style in the student section?

A scarecrow moves about as well as flat Matt.

Or, sign:

"dayton- always second...Just like the Wright Brothers."

Now THAT is something that reflects a Fordham education. (Gustav Whitehead)

Wow, I must candidly say I had never heard of the guy. Maybe I should have gotten a Fordham education, or maybe paid attention to my Xavier education...
But then, there's a lot I should have done differently. No one bragging on their license plates anymore. I read more than license plates though so I'm surprised I never heard of the guy.

[Pablo's Brother]

Dayton: Where Coaches only rent.

What does UD and FU have in common? We were both good in the 50s and 60s.

[MADXSTER]

"I don't always Hate, but when I do, I prefer to Hate Dayton. Stay thirsty my friends"

The most interesting man in the world.

[RoseyMuskie]

Absolutely love this thread. Very few things can unite us like our hatred for the Criers.

Thanks Rams26 for bringing out the best in us all.

[xubrew]

Dayton is a lot like Thanksgiving. They're kind of a big deal in November but after that everyone forgets about them.

[xubrew]

No one in Dayton likes NASCAR. Their team can't win on the road.

Okay that one is kinda lame. I'll keep thinking.

[bobbiemcgee]

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Kavs as Clown was a good one. Maybe with caption "want some candy, little girl?" Post with 17 yr. old girl. Also study excerpts from the Blackburn Review.

[xubrew]

I suppose Fordham is just one tournament win away from passing Dayton as a program. Nine A10 teams have more NCAA wins than UD since 1990. Davidson joining next year will make ten.

[X Communicator]

I doubt folks here would object if several Fordham faithful were attired in papal gear.


Did you say papal gear?

[paulxu]

Hah! Look who's back!!

[XU 87]

One of my favorite signs of all time was at an X/UC game at Cintas when Huggins brought in his team loaded with thugs and criminals. An X student had a sign reading, "Welcome fellow student scholars."

Ok, back to UD.

[Cheesehead]

I am laughing my ass off right now from this thread

[X-band '01]

Did you say papal gear?

Like others on here, I have missed the Holy Fuehrer since his retirement.

[chico]

Dayton - Ohio's little slice of Siberia.

[ballyhoohoo]

Here is a way to drop a little Jimmy carter into it1339

[dabott]

I'm not creative enough to come up with something specific but Archie Miller is called 'Kid Yuma' their students party in an area called 'The Ghetto' They still boast about winning the Maui invitational in 2003 Dan Patrick went there, So did John Gruden Their largest student organization is called "Red Scare" Juwan Staten's Dad should have been hired as coach....there has to be some material to work with there...

[blueblob06]

"Dayton & Fordham: A10 BFFs!"

or

"UD & FU: Looks like we're stuck with each other :sadwave:"

[ammtd34]

I think the "Be part of something BIG" campaign is pretty dumb. Dayton's student section shirts are really stupid, though. "Fly to to occasion." What?

[xubrew]

This is tough.

Fordham doesn't have much to work with. When a team finishes out of the RPI top 200 almost every year, there just isn't any room to talk any trash.

If Fordham beats them, then Dayton should feel the ultimate shame because they lost to a team and program as bad as Fordham, but it's kinda hard for Fordham to rub that in without shaming themselves.

I know FU is better this year, but they are probably lower on the totum poll than Manhattan, SFNY, Iona, Wagner, and LIU Brooklyn. I mean, maybe they're better than Columbia, but not by much. Including Saint John's, Fordham really is about seventh in their own city. For the years that Xavier was in the Atlantic Ten, I would have happily swapped Fordham with any of those other NYC schools. You just don't have much to go on when you're as bad as the Rams.

[xu82]

How about "we both suck at bball, but we have NYC!"?

[GIMMFD]

Why do Dayton grads keep their diplomas on their dashboards? So they can park in the handicap spots.

[GoMuskies]

Why do Dayton grads keep their diplomas on their dashboards? So they can park in the handicap spots.

Why the need to insult the handicapped?

[xubrew]

If Dayton loses to Fordham, I think you should get a big sign that says "YOU LOST TO FORDHAM!!"

You really can't spell it out any more plainly than that.

[Masterofreality]

Well, we've done a pretty good job of insulting Fordham when all the kid was looking for was some good stuff against udump. C'mon people, stop the arrogance and give the guy some good anti-Cryer stuff.

Sign: dayton- Preseason Champs- EVERY Season

Or

dayton = Not In Tourney

[xubrew]

It's impossible to be objective and be complimentary at the same time when talking about Fordham.

Up until last year, they didn't spend any money on basketball. They played a bunch of buy games as the team that was being bought, which served as an anchor for the rest of the Atlantic Ten. They did not take basketball seriously, but were still getting an equal share of the revenue that was generated by the teams that did take it seriously. "Mooching" is the best way I can describe their program's role in the Atlantic Ten. Fordham was a displaced Patriot League team, that would have probably finished in the bottom half of that league more often than not.

I do hope they beat Dayton tonight. I also acknowledge, and even applaud, their efforts to FINALLY begin to improve their basketball program, and I think we're actually beginning to see the results of that. But, for the previous fifteen years, they flat out sucked. On top of that, they didn't seem to mind. They were perfectly content to go through the motions, get their equal cut of NCAA Tournament revenue and TV revenue, collect $50k checks to get creamed by the likes of Syracuse, and generally win fewer than ten games and being RPI and SOS poison for the rest of the league. If that's an insult, then I'm sorry that the facts are offensive.

[GetUp5]

This isn't really anything you can use at a game, but I caught some of their game against SLU and had some observations.

HOW much more MID MAJOR can it get than how they look playing at home on TV? The loose uniforms, the floor from the 80's, the high camera angle. It's comical.

Anyways, Go Fordham.

[ammtd34]

This isn't really anything you can use at a game, but I caught some of their game against SLU and had some observations.

HOW much more MID MAJOR can it get than how they look playing at home on TV? The loose uniforms, the floor from the 80's, the high camera angle. It's comical.

Anyways, Go Fordham.

The bad thing is that they've redone the floor at least twice in the last decade. My wedding reception was there. When we were looking at it as a potential venue, the floor was up and the original (or at least an old) floor was underneath. It looked really, really cool. Columbia blue with clean lines in all the writing.

[GoMuskies]

My wedding reception was there.

Did it smell like poop on your wedding day? Really sorry to hear this.

[Masterofreality]

Hey, Brew, I get it, but you can't blame a kid who's making a good faith effort to trash the Cryers for the suck of Fordham past.

Let's just give him some good ol dayton STD humor.

[xubrew]

The bad thing is that they've redone the floor at least twice in the last decade. My wedding reception was there. When we were looking at it as a potential venue, the floor was up and the original (or at least an old) floor was underneath. It looked really, really cool. Columbia blue with clean lines in all the writing.

Huh?? They have the old floor underneath the new floor?? Well, that's....umm....normal, I guess.

Given Dayton's budget, they've spent more money per tournament win than any other team in the nation over the past quarter-century. I don't know how you'd make that into a sign, but that would certainly piss off the administration.

[American X]

The Wright brothers invented flying to get the hell out of Dayton faster.

[KabeX]

"UD - We're the best pre-season team of all time. Just ask us".

[KabeX]

"UD - We're gonna be freakin awesome ... next year"

[Muskie in dayton]

First, Rams26, thanks for asking this question. You have started a thread I have thoroughly enjoyed reading. Ah, the good old days.

Being a former Dayton-area resident, I have some inside knowledge here. There are some subtle things that can really irritate a true Daytonian. First, they wake up every morning with a smile because the Wright Brothers are from Dayton, and they flew the first plane. Then they tell themselves that Dayton is the birthplace of aviation, smile a little bigger, and go about their day dumb and delusional. However, they conveniently forget some related historical facts. Some signs would help remind them, like:

"Kitty Hawk, NC: The Birthplace of Aviation".

For a little more subtle, intelligent humor, you could simply make a sign that reads, "Gustave Whitehead". He is really the first person (a German) to invent and fly an airplane. True Daytonians know that, and don't like to be reminded.

Another idea? UD has some delusional <<yes I know, this could go anywhere>> idea that Wright State is far their inferior - so much so that UD would never play them. So how about a sign that reads: "Wright State: #1 in the City of Dayton".

OK, I admit, XUDash's suggested sign warning that Kavanaugh just joined Eharmony is much better, but I had to contribute something to this.

[BMoreX]

I'd really like to know what you ended up doing for your signs.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Screw kitty hawk. I hate Dayton BBall but they were the first n flight. NC had great winds that day and that is it. Dayton will always be considered first in flight. Dayton has earned that right and they should have the space shuttle too.

[OTRMUSKIE]

After further reading I have found out that Wlbur is a fraud and Dayton has lied to us for.a long time. Screw Dayton and long live Connecticut
http://www.history.com/news/in-connecticut-wright-brothers-no-longer-first-in-flight.

[ammtd34]

Did it smell like poop on your wedding day? Really sorry to hear this.

It was actually pretty nice. It was at their equivalent of the Schiff Room at Cintas, so there was no chance of flooding. My wife played soccer there. Sadly, that fact hasn't turned into an "OH MY GOD WE'RE TOTALLY THE SAME" friendship with the Macks.

But, Brew, yes. The old floor was underneath the new one. It was odd. I took a picture, but I can't find it at the moment.

Not so coincidentally, we sat in these seats for pictures (notice the school banner)

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