RPI Thread

[blobfan]

Because, not unlike Mick Cronin after the brawl, people bought into his BS in his first dozen or so posts. Maybe now people will catch on. Maybe.

He admitted to being a troll. Time to pile on and get rid of the green.

[Burrcats]

He admitted to being a troll. Time to pile on and get rid of the green.

Meh. You should be able to tell the difference between the trolling posts and legitimate posts...

[Masterofreality]

Xavier has the most arrogant fans ive ever encountered. The words "flagship" and "elite" are thrown around constantly on this board. very rarely are any other programs given credit. hell, you guys still claim butler sucks and theyve played for the title twice.

this all coming from a program that has never even sniffed a national title. never more than 3 wins in the ncaa tournament...thats terrible.

Maybe your "legendary coach" should learn how to foul when up by 3 with less than 8 seconds to go.

Shut up, clean up your house, win basketball games.....Rinse Repeat.

[Masterofreality]

Can we really hate Creighton fans? The ones I know are so nice.

And how can one really hate DePaul fans? That just seems mean.

No.....and cannot.

[blobfan]

Meh. You should be able to tell the difference between the trolling posts and legitimate posts...

Note you got neg replied for a trolling post.

[Milhouse]

You'd think a Georgetown fan would have a lot more to worry about right now than what Xavier fans think about their program......

[bleedXblue]

Do any of these trolls realize we have a Top 10 recruiting class coming in next year ?

We might get to see our first cyber space head explosion of an opposing fan (troll).

[HoyaParanoia]

All five Georgetown fans are arrogant, yes.

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/m_basketball_RB/Reports/attend/2013.pdf

why did GTown have higher attendance than Xavier last year if they don't have fans?

[GoMuskies]

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/m_basketball_RB/Reports/attend/2013.pdf

why did GTown have higher attendance than Xavier last year if they don't have fans?

A big arena and lots of Syracuse, UConn and Villanova fans living in DC.

[xu2002]

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/m_basketball_RB/Reports/attend/2013.pdf

why did GTown have higher attendance than Xavier last year if they don't have fans?

Georgetown plays in an arena with 10,000 more seats. I wouldn't be too proud of averaging 1,200 more people during Xavier's worst season in a decade where they were still at 95.5% of capacity.

[HoyaParanoia]

A big arena and lots of Syracuse, UConn and Villanova fans living in DC.


we drew over 13,500 for Tennesse last year. Must be a lot of Vols fans in DC too.

when was the last time Xavier drew 13,500 for a home game?

[ThrowDownDBrown]

This hoya fan appears to be a little upset that his team will be heading to the NIT this year

[XU 87]

I fell asleep last night at the end of the Georgetown game. Who won? I assume Gtown won since they had a pretty comfortable lead at the end. No way they would have choked and blown that lead.

[HoyaParanoia]

This hoya fan appears to be a little upset that his team will be heading to the NIT this year

Isnt that another tournament X missed last year?

[ammtd34]

we drew over 13,500 for Tennesse last year. Must be a lot of Vols fans in DC too.

when was the last time Xavier drew 13,500 for a home game?

Congratulations on filling to 65% capacity.

[ThrowDownDBrown]

Isnt that another tournament X missed last year?

How very Georgetown of you to only want to talk about the past. I'm sure in March you can sit down with San Francisco and Fordham fans to talk about the good old times.

[xumuskies08]

Isnt that another tournament X missed last year?

Same one GTown is in very real danger of missing this year? How's 6th place in this sucky league treating you?

Flagship.

[HoyaParanoia]

Congratulations on filling to 65% capacity.

You failed to answer the question.

If X has such a following, why didn't they build a bigger arena?

[ammtd34]

you failed to answer the question.

If x has such a following, why didn't they build a bigger arena?

This is the worst trolling I'vve ever seen. God, you suck. This is awful.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Congratulations on filling to 65% capacity.

This, and Georgetown is a tad down right now. They have had unfortunate injuries and a knucklehead transfer. Add to that, a coach who insists on running a system for non-athletes with a bunch of athletes. Their start to the conference season has been a tad rough but there are still 12 more games to play.

[bobbiemcgee]

This hoya fan appears to be a little upset that his team will be heading to the NIT this year

cba

[ArizonaXUGrad]

You failed to answer the question.

If X has such a following, why didn't they build a bigger arena?

Who knows, space issues, money, just plain old not wanting a 15k seat or more arena? Who cares? Apparently only Hoyaparanoia does. Hoya, do you realize Duke's capacity is just 9300? Does that detract from Cameron?

[xumuskies08]

You failed to answer the question.

If X has such a following, why didn't they build a bigger arena?

Little thing called supply/demand. It is better to sell out every game and drive up ticket prices than it is to sell 65% of your seats in a way-to-big arena.

Why don't Kansas, Kentucky, Duke, or any other school who sells out every game build bigger arenas?

[danaandvictory]

How does Burrcats have a positive rating?

He beat Memphis away and Pitt on a neutral floor.

[XUOHTX]

Not to continue this insane back and forth...but I'm going to continue it with this bit of info.

http://bit.ly/LV1wBe

[xudash]

Not to continue this insane back and forth...but I'm going to continue it with this bit of info.

http://bit.ly/LV1wBe

Where is Georgetown on the Forbes program ranking list?

[LA Muskie]

Where is Georgetown on the Forbes program ranking list?
Forbes: The Worldwide Leader in Sports. (Suck it, ESPN.)

[xu82]

Not to continue this insane back and forth...but I'm going to continue it with this bit of info.

http://bit.ly/LV1wBe

That's shocking! There is not even a discussion here. Letting little stuff like facts into the conversation can help a lot.

[waggy]

Huh? A table? You couldn't even manage a chart?

[Burrcats]

Not to continue this insane back and forth...but I'm going to continue it with this bit of info.

http://bit.ly/LV1wBe

ESPN did a top 50 programs of the last 50 years. Georgetown was #12, Xavier was #34.

[xubrew]

You failed to answer the question.

If X has such a following, why didn't they build a bigger arena?

Why didn't Georgetown build a bigger arena??

Why didn't Georgetown build a smaller arena??

Why doesn't Georgetown build an arena of any kind instead of being a secondary priority in someone else's arena??

Seattle University plays in Key Arena. That's much better for them than having their own place on campus. Even still, it's probably better than what Georgetown has because they're not having to work around an NBA team that plays 40+ games a year there.

[xu82]

ESPN did a top 50 programs of the last 50 years. Georgetown was #12, Xavier was #34.

And who was in the top 10 when they first broke out the peach baskets?

[DC Muskie]

we drew over 13,500 for Tennesse last year. Must be a lot of Vols fans in DC too.

when was the last time Xavier drew 13,500 for a home game?

Okay this fool is not a Hoya fan. He simply has never, ever lived in DC.

Yes, there are a ton of Tennessee fans in this town. There are a ton of alumni from every big state school up and down eastern time zone in this city. It is the capital of the country.

You'd be surprised how many Georgia fans would show up if you played them. If GTown played Penn State, you' probably think Hoya fans are so awesome for selling out, despite the fact there are a 1 million Penn State fans in the DMV area.

Do you really think 13,500 Georgetown fans showed up to watch The Volunteers? On a Friday?

[xumuskies08]

Okay this fool is not a Hoya fan. He simply has never, ever lived in DC.

Yes, there are a ton of Tennessee fans in this town. There are a ton of alumni from every big state school up and down eastern time zone in this city. It is the capital of the country.

You'd be surprised how many Georgia fans would show up if you played them. If GTown played Penn State, you' probably think Hoya fans are so awesome for selling out, despite the fact there are a 1 million Penn State fans in the DMV area.

Do you really think 13,500 Georgetown fans showed up to watch The Volunteers? On a Friday?

Posted this in another thread but it bears repeating...

This season, through 12 home dates, Xavier is averaging 9,770 fans including 4 sellouts. This season, through 10 home dates, Georgetown is averaging 8,038 fans including zero sellouts and a crowd of 4,676 and not a single crowd of more than 10,250 fans.

Dude is a straight fool.

[DC Muskie]

Posted this in another thread but it bears repeating...

This season, through 12 home dates, Xavier is averaging 9,770 fans including 4 sellouts. This season, through 10 home dates, Georgetown is averaging 8,038 fans including zero sellouts and a crowd of 4,676 and not a single crowd of more than 10,250 fans.

Dude is a straight fool.

It reminds me, check out the attendance figures when Maryland starts playing in the Big Ten. Especially in football, their numbers are going to shoot through the roof. Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan alone are going to come in droves. It's not going to be a case of all of sudden Maryland football fans showing up to Indiana.

[paulxu]

Okay this fool is not a Hoya fan.

I think it's pretty well established that he is a sucks fan.

[SemajParlor]

Guys, UC and Georgetown fans have been in an argument for several days on a rival teams' message board. I think we win this one.

[xufan02]

Need Tennessee to take care of business at home, up 3 with 1:55 on Arkansas.

[xufan02]

Tennessee wins, rpi pushes into the top 50.

[xumuskies08]

Up to #23, just 0.0005 points behind UC at #22.

[XUOHTX]

Up to #23, just 0.0005 points behind UC at #22.
What are you doing posting something on topic?

[xumuskies08]

What are you doing posting something on topic?

Ha. Thought I'd shake things up a bit.

[xubrew]

ESPN did a top 50 programs of the last 50 years. Georgetown was #12, Xavier was #34.

That's kind of surprising. Over the last fifty years?? 1963-2013?? Xavier was really bad for well over the first half of that time period. I guess that goes to show you just how good they've been recently.

[Burrcats]

That's kind of surprising. Over the last fifty years?? 1963-2013?? Xavier was really bad for well over the first half of that time period. I guess that goes to show you just how good they've been recently.

I actually really like how they did the rankings, it was quite in depth and they subtracted points for NCAA infractions. Outside of the top 10, the rest of the programs were carried by a specific decade of success. Xavier was #15 for the 2000-present and #21 in the 90's but really bad in the other 3 decades. Similarly, Cincinnati was #11 in the 60's (the rankings pre-dates the first title and 3 final fours), #9 in the 90's and a surprising #24 in the 00's (I thought it would be worse).

[ArizonaXUGrad]

I actually really like how they did the rankings, it was quite in depth and they subtracted points for NCAA infractions. Outside of the top 10, the rest of the programs were carried by a specific decade of success. Xavier was #15 for the 2000-present and #21 in the 90's but really bad in the other 3 decades. Similarly, Cincinnati was #11 in the 60's (the rankings pre-dates the first title and 3 final fours), #9 in the 90's and a surprising #24 in the 00's (I thought it would be worse).

By that ranking, SMU might be rated pretty high for Football when now they are largely a garbage program.

[Burrcats]

By that ranking, SMU might be rated pretty high for Football when now they are largely a garbage program.

I think you missed the part where points were subtracted for NCAA infractions...

[crolfes12]

Up to #23, just 0.0005 points behind UC at #22.

What website rankings are you looking at? I know the RealTime RPI has X at 31

[xsteve1]

What website rankings are you looking at? I know the RealTime RpPI has X at 31

Not sure if he's looking at this site but X is at 20.

http://www.rpiforecast.com/live-rpi.html

[xumuskies08]

Not sure if he's looking at this site but X is at 20.

http://www.rpiforecast.com/live-rpi.html

Yep. I usually check rpiforecast.

[XUFan09]

What website rankings are you looking at? I know the RealTime RPI has X at 31

Pretty sure Real Time counts Abilene Christian, which it shouldn't.

[UCGRAD4X]

per Mario Mercurio tweet

RPI = 21 and SOS = 20

and only three other teams have more wins against teams with RPI < 100

pic.twitter.com/rdz3YhrUOu

[xumuskies08]

RPI down to 25 immediately post-Providence.

[UCGRAD4X]

RPI down to 25 immediately post-Providence.

Actually would have expected a bigger drop.

Nice to know there are teams in the Big East that aren't RPI killers like that other league.

[BMoreX]

Down to 52. Ugh.

[The_Mack_Pack]

Down to 52. Ugh.

There's no way that's right.. RPI forecast, if that's what you're using, has our record at 14-7 so they have something wrong in their system. I'd imagine we're around 40.

[paulxu]

Warren Nolan says 36.

[xumuskies08]

There's no way that's right.. RPI forecast, if that's what you're using, has our record at 14-7 so they have something wrong in their system. I'd imagine we're around 40.

Yep. Something's wrong. Now at 51 (I assume thanks to Georgetown), but still. What a huge loss today was.

[BMoreX]

I was using live rpi.

[bleedXblue]

Just win. Keep losing and it won't matter

[OTRMUSKIE]

It's fixed and it's at 36 with a SOS of 22

[Classof1985]

Some of our distaste of the old Big East was stemming from a little troll across town who constantly compared his conference to ours and in not so many flattering ways. Plus coupled with the slobbering from ESPN, it was a little over the top. The question you haven't answered is - Cuse, Pitt and Louisville were already gone, so you can not use them. Would you have rather stayed in the Big East as it was going to be, with the football programs and take your scraps? I thought your presidents made a wise choice to break away and not just because it helped us. Your schools were being dictated by the almighty football dollar and it wasn't doing a damn thing for your basketball program. If this works the way all of the presidents of the schools hope, this could be the premier basketball conference in the country. Could it not work - of course it could, but now was the time to take a chance. I know last year when VCU and Butler joined the A-10, we were thrilled. Not because they were of the same level we were yet, but because of what they could help our conference to achieve to. They were so much better than Fordham and Duquesne and some of the other bottom feeders we were stuck with. If I were a Hoya fan that is how I would look at it. DePaul, Seton Hall and Providence haven't been the darlings of the conference so maybe some other rising programs would do that.

I would say that Cronin's comparisons of the old Big East to the A-10 were pretty accurate. That should be pretty clear already. X is not halfway through its first Big East campaign and has already lost to Providence and Seton Hall, two perennial second-division teams in the old Big East. Imagine a schedule with Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville, And UConn on it as well.

And that "little troll" that you guys think is so awful with the media was much better with the media after the brawl than Chris Mack. And then made Mack look worse by backing it up with actions.

[The_Mack_Pack]

I would say that Cronin's comparisons of the old Big East to the A-10 were pretty accurate. That should be pretty clear already. X is not halfway through its first Big East campaign and has already lost to Providence and Seton Hall, two perennial second-division teams in the old Big East. Imagine a schedule with Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville, And UConn on it as well.

And that "little troll" that you guys think is so awful with the media was much better with the media after the brawl than Chris Mack. And then made Mack look worse by backing it up with actions.

What actions did Cronin take that Mack did not?

[Classof1985]

UC being 15th is laughable. What do they have...at least 5 wins over 250+ RPI teams? They have two decent wins. Their conference is so bad they may only lose another 2-3 games. I predict a very early exit for them in the tourney. They cant score the ball consistently enough.

Creighton losing 5 spots b/c of a road Big East loss is not fair. They're easily a Top 15 team.

Gee, those are the same comments That used to infuriate Xavier fans when UC fans would make them about the A-10.

P.S. I don't understand why Creighton isn't higher ranked, either.

[XU 87]

I would say that Cronin's comparisons of the old Big East to the A-10 were pretty accurate. That should be pretty clear already. X is not halfway through its first Big East campaign and has already lost to Providence and Seton Hall, two perennial second-division teams in the old Big East. Imagine a schedule with Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville, And UConn on it as well.

And that "little troll" that you guys think is so awful with the media was much better with the media after the brawl than Chris Mack. And then made Mack look worse by backing it up with actions.

Within weeks after UC got its ass kicked by Xavier, at UC, it was really stupid to make comments like "Seton Hall would win the A-10," right after he also had just lost to Seton Hall. When you lose, the best course is to accept your loss and move on. Don't make stupid and condescending comments directed towards the team (Xavier) that just kicked your ass- it makes you look like an a-hole and excuse maker, something Mick is pretty good at doing to himself.

As for his media skills, you and about two other people think he has good media skills. The guy says something stupid just about every time he gets in front of a microphone. Maybe you're not listening. But since you apparently did listen to him after the Brawl, tell me one thing- how did 5'7" Mick tear Yancy Gates' jersey off as Mick so proclaimed? Or was that just a little bit of an exaggeration (lie)?

[Classof1985]

What actions did Cronin take that Mack did not?

Actually suspended his players involved for real amounts of time. IMMEDIATELY. ALL OF THEM. And made them actually do something substantial to return to the team. Mack's discipline was weak by comparison, and staggering the suspensions was lame

And ball don't lie. That incident brought UC together, and almost tore X apart.

[XU 87]

Actually suspended his players involved for real amounts of time. IMMEDIATELY. ALL OF THEM. And made them actually do something substantial to return to the team. Mack's discipline was weak by comparison, and staggering the suspensions was lame

And ball don't lie. That incident brought UC together, and almost tore X apart.

Xavier didn't stagger the suspensions. And maybe UC got a little more because those UC thugs were sucker punching our player while he was trying to break up the fight and then stomping on his head while he was down on the ground.

One question- Jay, is this you? Are you back under a different name?

[usfldan]

I would say that Cronin's comparisons of the old Big East to the A-10 were pretty accurate. That should be pretty clear already. X is not halfway through its first Big East campaign and has already lost to Providence and Seton Hall, two perennial second-division teams in the old Big East. Imagine a schedule with Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville, And UConn on it as well.


Cronin made those statements in seasons Xavier was making Elite Eight and Sweet 16 runs. I'm glad you hold this year's team in such high regard (I'm hoping we get there too). Xavier is currently fourth in the Big East (behind Creighton, Villanova, and Providence). Based on RPI, they'd be in about the same spot in the A-10 (possibly behind UMass, SLU, VCU and GW).

[The_Mack_Pack]

Actually suspended his players involved for real amounts of time. IMMEDIATELY. ALL OF THEM. And made them actually do something substantial to return to the team. Mack's discipline was weak by comparison, and staggering the suspensions was lame

And ball don't lie. That incident brought UC together, and almost tore X apart.

Both teams evenly disciplined their players and both ended up in the Sweet 16. Not sure what you're trying to argue.

[OTRMUSKIE]

With the loss X RPI moves down to 35 from 36. SOS moved to 8. That is one of the great things playng in the Big East.

[xumuskies08]

Bump...

Up to 41 from 50 on RPI Forecast. Also up to 44 from 47 on KenPom.

[Snipe]

We win on Saturday both the RPI and the SOS will rise. Actually, the SOS is going to rise anyway in our last three games no matter how we play. Creighton and Nova are both around 20 games over 500.

If we win out and win the Big East tournament we could still get quite a formidable seed.

And before anyone shoots that down, a guy has to dream. Let it go.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Bump...

Up to 41 from 50 on RPI Forecast. Also up to 44 from 47 on KenPom.

Yet they keep showing X at 69/75 SOS on the broadcast. Is Abilene Christian hurting us that bad? It's hard to go by RPI FORECAST since they don't count that one game for some odd reason. We were just at 20 something and now it's skyrocketed.

[xumuskies08]

Yet they keep showing X at 69/75 SOS on the broadcast. Is Abilene Christian hurting us that bad? It's hard to go by RPI FORECAST since they don't count that one game for some odd reason. We were just at 20 something and now it's skyrocketed.

I've wondered that as well. The official NCAA website, RPI Forecast, and ESPN (all sites I trust) are all fairly similar. I have no idea why FS1's RPI is so different.

[X-band '01]

Yet they keep showing X at 69/75 SOS on the broadcast. Is Abilene Christian hurting us that bad? It's hard to go by RPI FORECAST since they don't count that one game for some odd reason. We were just at 20 something and now it's skyrocketed.

Abilene Christian is in Year 1 of Division I play, so they don't count towards the official RPI that the selection committee uses. And as we discussed before, this was not a game that Xavier voluntarily scheduled, either.

[OTRMUSKIE]

So then RPI Forecast is the correct RPI and the other RPI the networks use are wrong? Just wondering why we keep seeing different RPI numbers and SOS.

[paulxu]

Here's the one the NCAA uses, but they don't update it every day.

http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-rpi

[danaandvictory]

So then RPI Forecast is the correct RPI and the other RPI the networks use are wrong? Just wondering why we keep seeing different RPI numbers and SOS.

Different RPI computation sites may have divergent numbers because they (a) don't treat games against "transitional" programs the same, or (b) don't assign the proper weighting to road/neutral games (e.g., is Xavier's game against Cincinnati away or home or neutral or quasi-neutral?). I'm also convinced that the NCAA's has tweaked their home/road weighting generally and the unofficial sites haven't caught up yet.

[MuskieFN]

We win on Saturday both the RPI and the SOS will rise. Actually, the SOS is going to rise anyway in our last three games no matter how we play. Creighton and Nova are both around 20 games over 500.

If we win out and win the Big East tournament we could still get quite a formidable seed.

And before anyone shoots that down, a guy has to dream. Let it go.


Actually I went from wondering if they had to beat Creighton or Nova to make the tournament at the start of last night to wondering at the end of the night what their seed ceiling would be. It would be nice to find out.

[LA Muskie]

Actually I went from wondering if they had to beat Creighton or Nova to make the tournament at the start of last night to wondering at the end of the night what their seed ceiling would be. It would be nice to find out.
At this point I think our absolute ceiling is probably a 6 seed, and I think it would take a hell of a performance to close out the season to achieve that. I see us more likely finishing up in the 8/9 range.

[ThrowDownDBrown]

Lets all hope we avoid the dreaded 8/9 seed

[GoMuskies]

At this point I think our absolute ceiling is probably a 6 seed

Since we're clearly dreaming now....I think we'd possibly do better than that with a 7 game win streak that started last night. That would potentially mean wins at St. John's twice, and vs. Creighton and Villanova twice each. I think it's possible that kind of finish might rate a 5 seed.

But again, this is of course just a dream.

[GoMuskies]

Lets all hope we avoid the dreaded 8/9 seed

I fear no 8/9 seed. I would embrace it. Wichita State was a 9 seed.

[X-man]

Lets all hope we avoid the dreaded 8/9 seed

In fact, an 11-seed os preferable IMHO to a 7-10 seed. A 6 is better than an 11 obviously though.

[The_Mack_Pack]

Lets all hope we avoid the dreaded 8/9 seed

I actually wouldn't be too upset with an 8/9 seed this season. As long as we can avoid Florida and Kansas I'd take a game against anyone.

[LA Muskie]

I actually wouldn't be too upset with an 8/9 seed this season. As long as we can avoid Florida and Kansas I'd take a game against anyone.
I hate the 8/9. I would prefer the 7/10 or 6/11 games and frankly I don't care which side of those we're on (although obviously I'd prefer the 6/7 just for "bragging" rights).

[XUFan09]

I actually wouldn't be too upset with an 8/9 seed this season. As long as we can avoid Florida and Kansas I'd take a game against anyone.

I don't really want to face Syracuse in the second round, whether they're a 1 or a 2 seed.

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[OTRMUSKIE]

Okay please explain this to me. How come we have three different RPI's? Do they all have different formulas? I was told by someone on this board, forgot his name that RPI FORECAST was the one the committee will use.
Xavier [18-9 (8-6), RPI: 60, SOS: 94] ESPN
Xavier 18-9 (9-6) , RPI: 41, SOS:41. Rpi forecast
Xavier 18-9 (8-6) , RPI 54, SOS 65, Real time RPI
Xavier 19-9 (9-6), RPI 41, SOS 41, UD PRIDE RPI

[ThrowDownDBrown]

I fear no 8/9 seed. I would embrace it. Wichita State was a 9 seed.

They also got matched up against one of if not the weakest 1 seed in tournament history last year. Of course if we get the Shockers as our 1 seed (if they even get a 1) then I wouldn't complain at all.

[XUFan09]

Are you using Live RPI at RPI Forecast or RPI Forecast itself? Because the latter accounts for probable outcomes of future games.

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[GoMuskies]

They also got matched up against one of if not the weakest 1 seed in tournament history last year. Of course if we get the Shockers as our 1 seed (if they even get a 1) then I wouldn't complain at all.

Not sure how Gonzaga was one of the weakest #1s ever last year, but I guess that's like your opinion, so it's fine. The Shockers are definitely getting a #1 seed assuming they don't choke this weeekend or next, and I, too, would be fine with a second round matchup with them. Or with Florida. Or Arizona. Or Kansas. Or Syracuse. Bring. Them. On.

[ThrowDownDBrown]

Not sure how Gonzaga was one of the weakest #1s ever last year, but I guess that's like your opinion, so it's fine. The Shockers are definitely getting a #1 seed assuming they don't choke this weeekend or next, and I, too, would be fine with a second round matchup with them. Or with Florida. Or Arizona. Or Kansas. Or Syracuse. Bring. Them. On.

Did you watch Gonzaga play last year? They were clearly not one of the 4 best teams in the country and thus in my opinion not worthy of a 1 seed. Same reasons apply for why I don't think Wichita deserves a 1 seed this year. If they do get a 1 though it's not really a big deal to me unlike some of the national pundits who are seemingly on a crusade to discredit the shockers. There's really not that much difference between a 1 and 2 in terms of the actual games, it's more of a prestige thing in being able to say "We got a 1 seed."

[paulxu]

I'm going to try this again. To whatever extent the Selection Committee uses an RPI, I am almost sure they use their own RPI, and it is here:

http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-rpi

[XUFan09]

Did you watch Gonzaga play last year? They were clearly not one of the 4 best teams in the country and thus in my opinion not worthy of a 1 seed. Same reasons apply for why I don't think Wichita deserves a 1 seed this year. If they do get a 1 though it's not really a big deal to me unlike some of the national pundits who are seemingly on a crusade to discredit the shockers. There's really not that much difference between a 1 and 2 in terms of the actual games, it's more of a prestige thing in being able to say "We got a 1 seed."

They finished #5 in Kenpom, got a few marquee wins, more good wins, and some decent wins in addition. They were perfect on a neutral court, had a great road record, and only accrued three losses overall while playing a good non-conference schedule and a solid overall schedule.

The idea that they were one of the worst 1 seeds of all time is just absurd, even if it was partially hyperbole. They had a good argument got a 1 seed that year. Wichita State, on the other side, might have deserved a better seed based off their regular season performance, but they were probably punished for a poor non-conference schedule.

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[Cheesehead]

Nice to see Dayton looking up at X....again.

[danaandvictory]

With regard to Wichita, and assuming they win out through the MVC tournament, what is the last team from a one-bid conference to get a No. 1 seed in the NCAA Tournament?

I think the answer is UNLV in 1987 - I don't see any other Big West teams listed in the field that year. Am I right?

[GoMuskies]

St. Joe's in 2004

-Billy Packer

[danaandvictory]

Bird's ISU team in 79 was also a one-bid one-seed.

[xudash]

Nice to see Dayton looking up at X....again.

Last night had to mortify Dayton fans.

Xavier wins in MSG in NY.

The Cryers lose in the bandbox in Philly.

[Moe82]

St. Joe's in 2004

-Billy Packer

Billy Packer must be wrong. I believe another team from the A-10 made the tournament that year. Started out with a blow out victory over St Joe's in the A-Ten tournament. I think you all know who that team was

[ballyhoohoo]

Billy Packer must be wrong. I believe another team from the A-10 made the tournament that year. Started out with a blow out victory over St Joe's in the A-Ten tournament. I think you all know who that team was

I believe since he references Bille "big fudge" Packer that he's working in sarcasm (as him and Jay Bias felt mid major conferences shouldn't get multiple bids)

[GoMuskies]

Billy Packer must be wrong. I believe another team from the A-10 made the tournament that year. Started out with a blow out victory over St Joe's in the A-Ten tournament. I think you all know who that team was

Billy Packer was certain that SJU didn't play a decent team all year long. Surely, SURELY they were from a one-bid league. SURELY!

[The_Mack_Pack]

Billy Packer was certain that SJU didn't play a decent team all year long. Surely, SURELY they were from a one-bid league. SURELY!

Just a couple bounces of the ball in the right direction and two A-10 teams could've been in the Final Four that year. Packer would've been on suicide watch.

[danaandvictory]

Bird's ISU team in 79 was also a one-bid one-seed.

False. New Mexico State was in the MVC that year (oddly, NMSU was also in the Big West with the great 1980s UNLV teams). Idiot. Neg repped.

[GoMuskies]

Who wouldn't suspect that New Mexico State is a member of a conference called the Missouri Valley?!? It clearly makes so much geographical sense.

[danaandvictory]

Who wouldn't suspect that New Mexico State is a member of a conference called the Missouri Valley?!? It clearly makes so much geographical sense.

West Texas A&M was also in the Valley at that point. Las Cruces is an easy 7-hour drive from there.

[UCGRAD4X]

I'm going to try this again. To whatever extent the Selection Committee uses an RPI, I am almost sure they use their own RPI, and it is here:

http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-rpi

BIG EAST has Villanova at 4 and Creighton at 7 and nothing until Xavier at 50.

A10 has SIX within that same span…dayton is NOT one of them.

[X-band '01]

False. New Mexico State was in the MVC that year (oddly, NMSU was also in the Big West with the great 1980s UNLV teams). Idiot. Neg repped.

Question - how does one neg rep himself?

1390

[danaandvictory]

Question - how does one neg rep himself?

1390

I punched myself in the jimmy.