St. John's

[BMoreX]

Up 60-58 over #2 Syracuse with 5:43 left to play.

[GoMuskies]

Good battle.

[SM#24]

And they've scored 1 point since and now down 5 with 0:44 and SU ball

[GoMuskies]

The missed FTs killed them. Hopefully Nova will have better luck against their cross-city A-10 rivals.

[xudash]

St. John's got up 2 AND had the ball. I would have thought that such a precious possession would have called for even a timeout by Lavin, instead of what appeared to be hazardous NY street ball.

'cuse came down the floor and tied it and then took the lead and then it was essentially over. Too bad. Good effort that didn't come through.

[Cheesehead]

Free throws killed them and then they had some really bad possessions at the end

[paulxu]

Free throws killed them and then they had some really bad possessions at the end

Huh? They were 20 of 26 at the line...77%.

The 3 point shot (or lack thereof) killed them. 1 of 15.

Edit: Villanova took care of business. It would be nice if DePaul woke up.

[xudash]

Huh? They were 20 of 26 at the line...77%.

The 3 point shot (or lack thereof) killed them. 1 of 15.

Edit: Villanova took care of business. It would be nice if DePaul woke up.

Well, that's an understatement. Serious work towards establishing clear separation between the BE and the A10.

[Cheesehead]

Huh? They were 20 of 26 at the line...77%.

The 3 point shot (or lack thereof) killed them. 1 of 15.

Edit: Villanova took care of business. It would be nice if DePaul woke up.

yes, but hey missed 3 right at the end. Came down got fouled and missed both, then came down got fouled and only made one while Syracuse still scored.

[BMoreX]

Beating Villanova 33-31 at half right now.

[gladdenguy]

Let's go Johnnies!!!!!

[Masterofreality]

Let's go Johnnies!!!!!

Not happening. St. John's attention to detail and focus is horrible. They have athletes and ability, but their performance is a direct indictment of Lavin. he can recruit, but coaching is a question.

[X-band '01]

And with that, Villanova is now +3 (3 road wins, 0 home losses) in the Big East. Definitely seeing some separation early on.

[JAPER]

Just lost to DePaul in the Windy City...

[DC Muskie]

Lavin is not doing a good job.

[vee4xu]

St. John's 86
Providence 76

Game at Providence. Well, Seton Hall lost to Butler at home before coming to the Cintas Center. So...

[BMoreX]

SJU on a roll lately. Currently up 65-63 on Creighton with 2 to go on FS1.

[xsteve1]

Probably the most talented team in the Big East. It looks like they are starting to figure it out.

[XU3232]

They are going to make a run for 3rd place.

[xu82]

SJU on a roll lately. Currently up 65-63 on Creighton with 2 to go on FS1.

Thanks for the heads up. Who knew Creighton could miss a shot???

[XUFan09]

They are going to make a run for 3rd place.

Very dangerous team. That will be a very hard team to beat at their place.

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[chico]

They're playing very well right now, but don't forget who their coach is.

[Burrcats]

They are gunning for a tournament spot. At the moment they'd replace Providence. Xavier is on deck to be replaced as well.

[xsteve1]

They are gunning for a tournament spot. At the moment they'd replace Providence. Xavier is on deck to be replaced as well.

Nope the Big East is starting to look at getting 5. They'll steal one from the AAc or A10.

[gladdenguy]

I hope Creighton shoots the way they did tonight in the Cintas Center.

[casualfan]

Nope the Big East is starting to look at getting 5. They'll steal one from the AAc or A10.

I don't think so. 4 at the most for the Big East IMHO.

[Burrcats]

Nope the Big East is starting to look at getting 5. They'll steal one from the AAc or A10.

AAC is solid at 5 bids (all 5 likely will be in the top 25 this week). The Big East may be able to take one from the A10 though...

[xsteve1]

I don't think so. 4 at the most for the Big East IMHO.

I think X, Georgetown, Providence, and St. John's are all in play for the tourney along with locks Villanova and Creighton. Marquette may play it's way on to the bubble as well.

[xsteve1]

AAC is solid at 5 bids (all 5 likely will be in the top 25 this week). The Big East may be able to take one from the A10 though...

Louisville has one decent win against UConn. UConn's resume ain't that great and Memphis hasn't really done much.

[Burrcats]

Louisville has one decent win against UConn. UConn's resume ain't that great and Memphis hasn't really done much.

Really? Are you this biased? How sad.

Connecticut: #30 in the RPI, wins over Florida and @Memphis. 4 additional top 100 RPI wins (Maryland, Indiana, @Washington, Harvard). Average seed of 7. Ranked #22 in the AP Poll.

Memphis: #25 in the RPI, wins over Oklahoma State (at full strength), @Louisville, Gonzaga. Average seed of 8. Ranked #24 in the AP Poll.

Providence, Xavier, St. Johns and Georgetown all have inferior resumes to these two...

[Juice]

Louisville has one decent win against UConn. UConn's resume ain't that great and Memphis hasn't really done much.

I love looking at the AAC's resumes.

UC's best win? Louisville or Pitt, neither team has a good win.
UConn's best win? IU, bubble team.
Memphis? Oklahoma St. with a sick Marcus Smart. OK St. also had beaten them earlier in the season by 20 when Smart was healthy. Throw in Gonzaga, but Gonzaga but they haven't beat anyone either.
Louisville? Souther Miss or Memphis?
Southern Methodist? UC

I do think UC is a good team but the rest of the conference looks pretty average to me

It's a conference that has inflated its rankings simply because they didn't lose much in OOC portion of the schedule but didn't actually beat anyone.

[Burrcats]

I love looking at the AAC's resumes.

UC's best win? Louisville or Pitt, neither team has a good win.
UConn's best win? IU, bubble team.
Memphis? Oklahoma St. with a sick Marcus Smart. OK St. also had beaten them earlier in the season by 20 when Smart was healthy. Throw in Gonzaga, but Gonzaga but they haven't beat anyone either.
Louisville? Souther Miss or Memphis?
Southern Methodist? UC

I do think UC is a good team but the rest of the conference looks pretty average to me

It's a conference that has inflated its rankings simply because they didn't lose much in OOC portion of the schedule but didn't actually beat anyone.

Right. Top 25 voters are holding back voting powers like Xavier, St. Johns and Providence from their rightful rankings.

Oh and UConn beat Florida. Nice try troll.

[xsteve1]

Right. Top 25 voters are holding back voting powers like Xavier, St. Johns and Providence from their rightful rankings.

Oh and UConn beat Florida. Nice try troll.

The top 25 has nothing to do with the tournament. It's not even used as a barometer.

[LadyMuskie]

Nice try troll.

I know you're here so much, indulging in your obsession, that you might forget, but this is a board for Xavier fans. That makes you the troll.

[Burrcats]

The top 25 has nothing to do with the tournament. It's not even used as a barometer.

Name me one top 25 team that didn't make the NCAA tournament. Clearly there is a correlation...

[Juice]

Right. Top 25 voters are holding back voting powers like Xavier, St. Johns and Providence from their rightful rankings.

Oh and UConn beat Florida. Nice try troll.

In no way do I think XU, SJU, and Providence should be ranked ahead of the AAC teams, I just don't think the AAC's resume is great. And Florida was without Kasey Hill and Chris Walker for that game. And Wilbekin and Finney-Smith had only played a few game with the team because of suspension. Florida is completely different team now than it was at the beginning of the season.

[XU 87]

Name me one top 25 team that didn't make the NCAA tournament. Clearly there is a correlation...

24th ranked Michigan. (you asked).

Jay, why are you posting under this new name?

[Retire33]

Name me one top 25 team that didn't make the NCAA tournament. Clearly there is a correlation...

2004 Utah State

[Burrcats]

24th ranked Michigan. (you asked).



What year?


2004 Utah State

Assuming no one has missed it since then, that means being ranked in the top 25 has resulted in a bid 99.6% of the time since 2004 aka those teams are going to make it easily if they remain ranked.

[Retire33]

What year?



Assuming no one has missed it since then, that means being ranked in the top 25 has resulted in a bid 99.6% of the time since 2004 aka those teams are going to make it easily if they remain ranked.

I was just answering your "Trivia Question of The Night" sponsored by the Bald Leprechaun of Clifton.

Don't keep changing the tone of the argument when your rhetorical question gets answered not once but twice.

Not to mention there is still six weeks left in the season. Using my UC math (yes I'm an alum of that concrete zoo of an institution) I will say 25% to 30% of the current top 25 changes by selection sunday.

[Xavier]

"Name one top 25 team that didn't make it to the tournament!!" ..."Well, besides them!" Whoops.

[GoMuskies]

UNLV didn't make the Tournament when they were ranked 25th in Isaiah Rider's senior season.

[Strange Brew]

Right. Top 25 voters are holding back voting powers like Xavier, St. Johns and Providence from their rightful rankings.

Oh and UConn beat Florida. Nice try troll.

Oh and Xavier HUMILIATED UC. What's your point troll. Are you saying X wouldn't win the aac?

[BMoreX]

St. John's escapes a loss at seton hall, winning by one.

Looked like less than 1000 people in attendance, due to the snow.

[BMoreX]

Somehow that was the first time St. John's beat Seton Hall in Newark in 16 years.

[xudash]

So, Seton Hall comes down the floor with the ball and the score tied.

Up goes a "3" attempt with 13 seconds left in regulation. No drive to attract a foul at home with time close to expiring. A long ball. A long ball with two much time left on the clock in the event of a miss, which was the event.

Ouch.

[gladdenguy]

Give it up to Muskie and company who banned that ignorant loser Burrcatts.

As for Seton Hall.......Xavier has to win that game on the road. Can't lose to them again. They should be ready to play considering Seton Hall might be the only home loss of the season up to that point.

More importantly, a Seton Hall win and Depaul win would give Xavier 19 wins. that leaves 5 games to win 1 or 2 games and safely be in the tournament.

[BMoreX]

Johnnies continue to roll. Beat the Hoyas by 22.

[Masterofreality]

Johnnies continue to roll. Beat the Hoyas by 22.

They are gonna be tough to beat at MSG. All the more important that X beats GTown and Seton Hall away.

[NY44]

I was at the game and that is one pumped up team and fan base. The game got a little chippy at times, a double technical had to be called at one point. I think that's due to a mix of these teams having history and DSR's need to run his mouth.

The big difference for them is Rysheed Jordan. When he's on they're hard to stop. He had 24 tonight. Shooting 8-11 and 3-6 from distance. Him vs Semaj should be fun to watch.

[gladdenguy]

Love ya MOR but Xavier is not beating Georgetown on the road.

[X-band '01]

If Xavier's perimeter defense plays like they did Saturday, I'd have to concur with Gladden as to Georgetown. St. John's might be a better matchup, but Xavier caught them at the right time in December. They're going to have to win a game at MSG sooner or later; it would be better to get a true road win there instead of merely a single game in the Big East Tournament (and even that's no guarantee).

[Masterofreality]

Love ya MOR but Xavier is not beating Georgetown on the road.

Might want to wait on that declaration. GTown struggles to score, plus they have a 9:00pm Thursday night game on the road..then have to turn around and play at 11:30am on Saturday, albeit at home.

Must be something about guys with GG in their names being "glass half empty". :medicated:

[muskienick]

For the last few years of his life, the other "GG" seemed to be a guy who's glass was usually half-full, despite the cards that he was dealt!

[sgarcia]

MOR, as much as I like the enthusiasm, this team hasn't shown me anything over the past few years to make me think they can pull off an upset in a conference road game. Regardless, I'll be there Saturday hopefully lathered up from a few pre game Guinness' at a nearby watering hole and eating my words around 1:30 in the afternoon.

[DoubleD86]

Love ya MOR but Xavier is not beating Georgetown on the road.

Didn't you also say X was going 1-9 and they weren't going to beat Butler on the road and probably not Providence at home?

[GoMuskies]

Love ya MOR but Xavier is not beating Georgetown on the road.

I'm currently feeling a lot better about G'town on the road than I am about St. John's. They are a machine right now.

[Masterofreality]

I'm currently feeling a lot better about G'town on the road than I am about St. John's. They are a machine right now.

And, actually, very, very good for the league. If St. Johns enters the BE Tournament on a roll that will ensure sellouts and lots of buzz in NYC.

Like it or not, NY is very self centered...and they only care about what is in their world.

[xudash]

And, actually, very, very good for the league. If St. Johns enters the BE Tournament on a roll that will ensure sellouts and lots of buzz in NYC.

Like it or not, NY is very self centered...and they only care about what is in their world.

Exactly. I would like for the Johnnies to make it to the conference final game - against Xavier, losing at the buzzer!

[GoMuskies]

Based on my limited interactions with St. John's fans (and my observations of Lavin over the years), I hate St. John's and hope they fail at everything they try. Well, at least against conference foes.

[XUFan09]

Based on my limited interactions with St. John's fans (and my observations of Lavin over the years), I hate St. John's and hope they fail at everything they try. Well, at least against conference foes.

100% agreement

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[Masterofreality]

Based on my limited interactions with St. John's fans (and my observations of Lavin over the years), I hate St. John's and hope they fail at everything they try. Well, at least against conference foes.


100% agreement

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Well, it is New York, so not surprising. A bit arrogant in NY.

[NY44]

And, actually, very, very good for the league. If St. Johns enters the BE Tournament on a roll that will ensure sellouts and lots of buzz in NYC.

Like it or not, NY is very self centered...and they only care about what is in their world.

Not sure what you mean by this. Isn't the whole world our world?

[X-band '01]

Show some respect for New York - that's where the Nexus of the Universe is located!

[NY44]

Have you ever even seen the Apple Store!?

[THRILLHOUSE]

Chris Obekpa will be out for 10 - 14 days with an ankle injury. X plays STJ 7 days from now, so unless he has a quicker recovery than expected he will be out for that game.

[XU3232]

Chris Obekpa will be out for 10 - 14 days with an ankle injury. X plays STJ 7 days from now, so unless he has a quicker recovery than expected he will be out for that game.

That's big news. Tough to lose him for a few games at this point in the season with them being on the bubble.

[vee4xu]

Rooting hard for Butler tonight.

[Snipe]

I am rooting for St. Johns. I want to be the team that breaks their little streak, and break it at the Garden.

[vee4xu]

I am rooting for St. Johns. I want to be the team that breaks their little streak, and break it at the Garden.

I guess that works too. Playing on the road isn't X's strong suit this year, so help wherever it can be gotten helps. It would be nice to hang an L on St. John's in NYC.

[vee4xu]

Chris Obekpa out for two weeks. Injured his ankle during practice.

[kyxu]

I am rooting for St. Johns. I want to be the team that breaks their little streak, and break it at the Garden.

Or at Carnesecca Arena. But whatever.

[Masterofreality]

We're playing at MSG

[kyxu]

We're playing at MSG

That would be great. The game information I saw indicated we were playing at Carnesecca, but would be glad to be wrong.

[BMoreX]

That would be great. The game information I saw indicated we were playing at Carnesecca, but would be glad to be wrong.

Xavier schedule says MSG.

[kyxu]

Fox Sports information indicates Carnesecca, but that could easily be wrong.

[NY44]

Fox Sports information indicates Carnesecca, but that could easily be wrong.

My ticket says MSG

[kyxu]

My ticket says MSG

Probably a decent indication that Fox Sports is wrong.

Sorry, everyone.

[BMoreX]

Marquette St. John's heading to 2OT.

[OH.X.MI]

Lavin is going on a twitter campaign, spare me.
‏
Here are a few: @SJUCoachLavin
-What I shared with the team is that at this stage things are in the Selection Committee’s hands. #SJUBB
-If you look at our body of work and a number of criteria the Committee considers, we clearly have pluses. #SJUBB
-I know the Committee will look at all those factors. #SJUBB

I know this the "age of social media" or whatever, but something's shouldn't be pandered in public.

[vee4xu]

You know what OH, when your record doesn't speak for itself, then someone else has to do the speaking for it. That's what Lavin's doing. Spin city, baby. Kind of like, "hey, look over here, we are worthy."

[OH.X.MI]

You know what OH, when your record doesn't speak for itself, then someone else has to do the speaking for it. That's what Lavin's doing. Spin city, baby. Kind of like, "hey, look over here, we are worthy."

I understand what he's doing. Doesn't mean I like it. But I also don't like Lavin, all he does is spin.

[XUFan09]

I don't think he's pandering to the Committee (I'm assuming that's what you meant). I think he's pandering to the fans and the sportswriters in preparation for getting left out. Honestly, I don't know what he thinks is good about the resume. He went 10-3 in the non-conference schedule. Okay, the SOS for that was 128, and the only top 150 team he beat at home was #67 San Francisco at home.

...I was about to go on, but I decided to just not bother. I'd rather celebrate the Xavier win that worry about the shit resume that Lavin put out. With that non-conference schedule alone, he dug his grave when he couldn't beat the two teams that were even worthwhile: Wisconsin on a neutral court and Syracuse at home.

[PM Thor]

I've visited other sites, and St. Johns fans have become the new dayton fans....always with the excuses.

[Snipe]

Dayton still has a shot. I am rooting for them big time.

HELL YEAH!

[BMoreX]

I've visited other sites, and St. Johns fans have become the new dayton fans....always with the excuses.

They are the worst.

[RealDeal]

They did less with more this year.

[ammtd34]

Dayton still has a shot. I am rooting for them big time.

HELL YEAH!

Lunardi has them as a last 4 in at the moment (I know, fwiw). A win today basically seals it. I still think they have a chance with a loss today.

[XUFan09]

They are the worst.

There are a couple of good guys on HLOH, but just as many are assholes (and they're the more vocal ones). They're even assholes to the Creighton fans, for Christ's sake. There isn't a friendlier, classier fanbase in the conference.

[Juice]

There are a couple of good guys on HLOH, but just as many are assholes (and they're the more vocal ones). They're even assholes to the Creighton fans, for Christ's sake. There isn't a friendlier, classier fanbase in the conference.

I picture Creighton fans as people from Mayberry, just a utopia of nice people who like basketball who mind their manners.

[XUFan09]

I picture Creighton fans as people from Mayberry, just a utopia of nice people who like basketball who mind their manners.

Lol that's perfect.

[X-band '01]

As for St. John's, they still get a #1 seed for the NIT. Georgetown also made the field; Marquette did not.

Indiana also missed out completely on the postseason this year.

[xsteve1]

As for St. John's, they still get a #1 seed for the NIT. Georgetown also made the field; Marquette did not.

Indiana also missed out completely on the postseason this year.

And no postseason for Maryland. I bet they wished they hadn't screwed up trying to hire Sean. Turgeon just hasn't worked out and I feel bad for Dez since he would have most likely played in the NCAA all 4 years if things would've worked out at X,

[Masterofreality]

As for St. John's, they still get a #1 seed for the NIT. Georgetown also made the field; Marquette did not.

Indiana also missed out completely on the postseason this year.

Kind of makes you A) Feel better that we didn't get shafted by some political game last year, B) That postseason berths are not some birthright bestowed only by your name. You gotta earn them.....and cherish them too.

Never, ever get spoiled or complacent. We were literally on the razor's edge this year with no margin left.

[JTG]

As for St. John's, they still get a #1 seed for the NIT. Georgetown also made the field; Marquette did not.

Indiana also missed out completely on the postseason this year.

Living in Indiana, it just doesn't get any better than IU being shunned by the NIT. Crean is such a jerk.

[Lamont Sanford]

Living in Indiana, it just doesn't get any better than IU being shunned by the NIT. Crean is such a jerk.

Agreed, JTG. Couldn't happen to a bigger jackass.

[Juice]

Living in Indiana, it just doesn't get any better than IU being shunned by the NIT. Crean is such a jerk.

And it's hilarious that IU claims to be too good/big for the CBI when they've made the tourney 2 out of the last 6 years and also stormed the court when they beat Wisconsin.

[Xman95]

And it's hilarious that IU claims to be too good/big for the CBI when they've made the tourney 2 out of the last 6 years and also stormed the court when they beat Wisconsin.

And their coach might be the biggest D-Bag in college basketball. Is he going to be fired or will they give him another year or so in hopes that talented players will overcome his awful coaching? If it weren't for D.Wade's academics being a nightmare and him falling into Crean's lap, this guy probably would have been bounced at Marquette. And now the only thing keeping him at IU is that he's able to take advantage of the IU name (and boosters) to add talent. Unfortunately he can't coach them.

As for Georgetown (saw them mentioned earlier in the thread), remember when people in the DSR camp basically forced him out of his commitment to Xavier because they wanted him to go to a bigger program? How's that working out? Oh, and to some extent, that helped X land Semaj. So I think we did just fine!

[Masterofreality]

Pretty clear that St. Johns did not want to keep playing. Boatracing in process by Bobby Morris at Carneseca.

[GoMuskies]

Robert Morris is an NIT monster!

[throwbackmuskie]

Thanks St. John's for breaking my NIT Bracket!

[Masterofreality]

Good job, good effort. 1,057 in attendance at Carneseca too.

That #1 seed sure meant a lot.

[xsteve1]

Good job, good effort. 1,057 in attendance at Carneseca too.

That #1 seed sure meant a lot.

Do you blame them. What kid gets excited about playing Robert Morris in the NIT. X really didn't look thrilled to be in the PIG last night for what it's worth.