The Crosstown Shootout (December 14, 2013)

[paulxu]

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Cincinnati Bearcats (7-1) vs. Xavier University Musketeers (7-3)
Saturday, December 14, 2013 at 8:00 p.m. ET
Someplace Downtown, Cincinnati, Ohio

Live Chat (http://www.chatzy.com/32573582761803)

Notes and Stats (http://www.goxavier.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/121213aab.html)

Television: Fox Sports 1 with Mike Corey (play-by-play) and Donny Marshall (analysis).

Radio: 55KRC-AM with Joe Sunderman '79 (play-by-play) and Bryon Larkin '88 (analysis).

[paulxu]

Muskie...many Makers someday.
Blobfan has already fixed the avatar = new streak.
LadyMuskie is getting worked up.
mrspaulxu is already mad at somebody at UC. Anybody really. Maybe everybody.
What could go wrong?
Let's do this.

[coasterville95]

So, for the ten of us who are actually going to the game. Is anybody planning on pre-gaming at The Banks? If so, which watering hole.

Last year, I recall Toby Keith's was pro Xavier. moerlein lager haus has better beer, and I haven't tried Yard House, so that's also tempting.

[ammtd34]

So, for the ten of us who are actually going to the game. Is anybody planning on pre-gaming at The Banks? If so, which watering hole.

Last year, I recall Toby Keith's was pro Xavier. moerlein lager haus has better beer, and I haven't tried Yard House, so that's also tempting.

Along that line, is there a pro-Xavier place to watch the game outside of Dana's?

[XU '11]

So, for the ten of us who are actually going to the game. Is anybody planning on pre-gaming at The Banks? If so, which watering hole.

Last year, I recall Toby Keith's was pro Xavier. moerlein lager haus has better beer, and I haven't tried Yard House, so that's also tempting.

Great beer selection at Yard House also. I highly recommend it.

[GoMuskies]

According to the Sagarin Predictor rating (which is generally a pretty good guide), Xavier should be about a four point dog tomorrow night.

[XU '11]

According to the Sagarin Predictor rating (which is generally a pretty good guide), Xavier should be about a four point dog tomorrow night.

KenPom has a similar prediction:

Cincinnati 68
Xavier 64

[waggy]

Sneaking up on people...

[paulxu]

Hmm, was I premature about the avatar Blobfan? Respect the streak.

[Bearcat01]

UC fan here and have not been on since last year. Just wanted to wish you all a good game tomorrow night. I am really excited for the game as usual. I myself like the game downtown. I like seeing both sets of fans attend and I thought the atmosphere last year was great. I am eager to see Semaj and his progress from last year to this year. He can be a dynamic player and a game changer, and I always enjoy watching young men grow their skill sets. I am taking a Xavier fan and his wife with me and my wife. They are great people and we love to raze each other about our programs but we always know that we respect each other and our universities. I believe we the fans, the residents of Cincinnati, need to show more class on an annual basis. These student athletes, most not from here, leave after 4 years and we are left carrying the hatred while we continue to live here in our city.
Thanks for letting me talk and good luck tomorrow and the rest of the season.

Bearcat Fan

[XULucho27]

UC fan here and have not been on since last year. Just wanted to wish you all a good game tomorrow night. I am really excited for the game as usual. I myself like the game downtown. I like seeing both sets of fans attend and I thought the atmosphere last year was great. I am eager to see Semaj and his progress from last year to this year. He can be a dynamic player and a game changer, and I always enjoy watching young men grow their skill sets. I am taking a Xavier fan and his wife with me and my wife. They are great people and we love to raze each other about our programs but we always know that we respect each other and our universities. I believe we the fans, the residents of Cincinnati, need to show more class on an annual basis. These student athletes, most not from here, leave after 4 years and we are left carrying the hatred while we continue to live here in our city.
Thanks for letting me talk and good luck tomorrow and the rest of the season.

Bearcat Fan

Ha! Perv.

[Nigel Tufnel]

Vegas put the opening line at UC -3.

[crolfes12]

Are we going to get to hear the annual Crosstown poem?

[GoMuskies]

So what are we drinking tomorrow night? I will go with Franziskaner if I can find it, but it's been relatively tricky of late. Might have to go with Weihenstephaner instead. Not a bad alternative.

[xubball1993]

Is my imagination, or does UC always seem to have an off-week, with no other games scheduled, every year for the Shootout?

[blobfan]

Hmm, was I premature about the avatar Blobfan? Respect the streak.

Little bit, but I've caught up.

[paulxu]

Being held down. Public reps! Way to hang in there.

[American X]

Is my imagination, or does UC always seem to have an off-week, with no other games scheduled, every year for the Shootout?

It is always an academics off-week for the UC student-athlete fellow scholars.

[X-band '01]

Is my imagination, or does UC always seem to have an off-week, with no other games scheduled, every year for the Shootout?

They have a penchant of late for playing the Shootout right after their final exams. This is another reason (and a legitimate one at that) for moving the game back to January or February.

[American X]

As the snow peacefully falls in the predawn hours, we gather our forces...






...to strategerize our attack....








...on the liquor store - need heavy weaponry for today, thinking a case of Sierra Celebration, bottle of Cody Road Rye, and a handle of Jameson should suffice...







...because when day turns to night, there is one questions for you Xavier fans...












ARE YOU READY FOR A WAR?

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[Nigel Tufnel]

Huggy Bear chimes in on the Shootout.....

http://www.theet.com/sports/wvu/huggins-has-never-seen-a-rivalry-like-uc-xavier/article_3f26bd40-6480-11e3-9730-0019bb2963f4.html#.UqwU8peovJo.twitter


I agree with many....Huggs really helped the rivalry.

[danaandvictory]

Since Chuggs left UC I've developed an unhealthy admiration for him as coach and pantomime villain. MOR is going to kick my ass.

[Nigel Tufnel]

I caught a few comments from Mack on 700 last night about why he wants the game back on campus. Essentially, he said its the atmosphere at both home arenas...how much better it is than US Bank. He said we have to go there and deal with it and they have to come to the Cintas and deal with it...that's part of the rivalry. Then he said something that made way, way too much sense....

Mack said that both schools are trying to put the fight behind them. It was one bad incident....but he said every time they play UC at US Bank Arena, all it does is remind him of the fight....which is exactly what they are trying not to do. He said the only way both schools can put the fight in the past and forget about it and move on, is for it to be back on campus. I hadn't thought of it that way. That's a really good point.


Edit: Just checked the line on the game. With 55% of bets on X and 45% on UC, the line has moved from UC -4.5 to UC -6. That is not a good sign for X.....Vegas has chosen which side they are on...and it ain't X. Hopefully X can beat the sharps.

[CinciX12]

Huggy Bear chimes in on the Shootout.....

http://www.theet.com/sports/wvu/huggins-has-never-seen-a-rivalry-like-uc-xavier/article_3f26bd40-6480-11e3-9730-0019bb2963f4.html#.UqwU8peovJo.twitter


I agree with many....Huggs really helped the rivalry.

"They’ve always had this thing that they were the poor little school down the road and we had all the money and resources. I mean, there’s nothing like it."

I hope that you die Huggins.

[GIMMFD]

as the snow peacefully falls in the predawn hours, we gather our forces...






...to strategerize our attack....








...on the liquor store - need heavy weaponry for today, thinking a case of sierra celebration, bottle of cody road rye, and a handle of jameson should suffice...







...because when day turns to night, there is one questions for you xavier fans...












are you ready for a war?

http://daughteroftheheavenlyking.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/mel-gibson-braveheart-freedom.jpg

.... They will never take our freeeedomm!!!

[paulxu]

Can you fight a war on a neutral site?

Maybe we could have moved Vietnam to, oh I don't know, South Carolina?

Every war is an away game for one team; unless it's a civil war. Or a tournament on somebody's island like Iwo Jima.

[RealDeal]

Every year before the shootout hugs would say that it was just another game to him and his team. Hilarious.

[X-man]

On the uc messageboards, they are already hedging their bets with that outdated (if was ever true) and certainly obsolete claim that the game means more to Xavier than it does uc and therefore the beercats could lose even though they are "obviously" the better team. What losers!

[dubbledxu]

Spread has moved to UC-6

[coasterville95]

I have arrived at Toby Kieths. Not too much blue in here yet.

[Nigel Tufnel]

Line back down a whole point to UC -5. That's a more promising sign. Hopefully some late money sharps taking X.

[XU3232]

As long as we can handle UC's press and rebound the ball I think we have a good shot. Easier said then done but hopefully they are fired up. They are due for a great game.

[Kahns Krazy]

As long as we can handle UC's press and rebound the ball I think we have a good shot. Easier said then done but hopefully they are fired up. They are due for a great game.

That is a confusing mix of we and they. I hope both refer to X here.

I'm not expecting much out of this game. This is one of those games where Mack and the team have a chance to surprise me. If I were a betting man, though, I think I'd take UC in this one, and that makes me ill.

[brownlavender]

Early report at the restraunts down here looks like 3-1 uc fans at least. How many are going to the game I have no clue

[paulxu]

Are all of our students at a pre-game reflection session? Sort of like Manresa?

[XU3232]

That is a confusing mix of we and they. I hope both refer to X here.

I'm not expecting much out of this game. This is one of those games where Mack and the team have a chance to surprise me. If I were a betting man, though, I think I'd take UC in this one, and that makes me ill.

Both refer to X. I'm typing quick trying get multiple things done before this game. I think UC also takes this one.. I'm hoping I have never been more wrong.

[GoMuskies]

Line back down a whole point to UC -5. That's a more promising sign. Hopefully some late money sharps taking X.

I was too late and ended up with X+5. I DO think this game will be close even if I'd lean slightly towards UC to win outright.

[XUFan09]

Rubles can take jump shots all day. Banners on the Parkway showed that he is abysmal on jumpers while being good around the rim.

I never thought that Philmore had good hands, but Jesus, be better than that!

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[Muskie]

Semaj with two fouls. This next 13 is gonna be rough.

[XU3232]

Rubles can take jump shots all day. Banners on the Parkway showed that he is abysmal on jumpers while being good around the rim.

I never thought that Philmore had good hands, but Jesus, be better than that!

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That was a terrible start for Philmore. I'll take Farr over him all day.

[Muskie]

The missed bunnies are becoming an epidemic this season.

[XU3232]

Loving Justin Martin so far tonight. Team is playing with a lot of intensity just need to limit turnovers.

[Kahns Krazy]

Couldn't have asked for a much better first 16 minutes. Even got to see Cronin pick up a T. Can he get ejected if he picks up another?

[XU '11]

Semaj with two fouls. This next 13 is gonna be rough.

For the YTG

[xubball1993]

Alright Muskies, gotta play two halves. Let's finish this!

[Muskie]

UC has taken Christon out of this game and dared the rest of the team to beat them.

[paulxu]

What a threat he would be if he just pulled up.

[paulxu]

I couldn't get here until 2nd half. What did WATB get tee'd up for?

[GreatWhiteNorth]

Can this be J.Martin's night?

[Muskie]

Can this be J.Martin's night?

Sure looking that way.

[paulxu]

Maybe our entire team will foul out?

[XU3232]

Refs are terrible. Some of these calls on X are just awful.

[Charlesbt4]

The officiating has been dreadful. However, Xavier is playing better without Christon in the game.

[mistabeecee41]

Refs are terrible. Some of these calls on X are just awful.

stainbrook has to realize he's going to be a foul magnet being that big. that call on that oop was awful, but he shouldnt have even put himself into that position by backing into the guy.

[XU3232]

stainbrook has to realize he's going to be a foul magnet being that big. that call on that oop was awful, but he shouldnt have even put himself into that position by backing into the guy.

Yea that was a gift for UC. I'll agree with that. I hope Semaj wakes up. He has been completely taken out out of this game due to uc's defense.

[Muskie]

stainbrook has to realize he's going to be a foul magnet being that big. that call on that oop was awful, but he shouldnt have even put himself into that position by backing into the guy.

This won't be popular. But I'm impressed with Kilpatrick. He's keeping UC in this by himself.

[Muskie]

Cheaply foul on Semaj.

[coasterville95]

The foul calling is beyond atrocious. And I fear will bite us before this is over. Like what I are from 126 so far.

[Charlesbt4]

At this rate, we're going to be playing walk-ons, and still will have a double digit lead.

[Muskie]

Good news is that Mick Cronin is also in foul trouble.

[Muskie]

I was under the impression that with FS1 I would get better more knowledgeable announcers...

[chico]

Well where is Croning going to want to play this game now?

[Muskie]

Well where is Croning going to want to play this game now?

At the actual underground museum.

[XU3232]

This is just straight up AWESOME. If this team continues to play like tonight I'm pumped.

[paulxu]

I don't know what the crowd split is, but it sure seems like as many XU supporters, and I can hear them clearly over the strange announcers.

[GuyFawkes38]

Did not see this coming. Awesome.

[Muskie]

If you have the lefts move Down app you can have your choice of UC seats at this point.

[XU3232]

And trevon Bluiett drops 54 tonight.. Not sure if tonight can get much better.

[blobfan]

How much time before the UC players get overly frustrated and start shoving our players? They just can't hndle being down 20 pts.

[xeus]

Great game. Suck it Mick.

[paulxu]

Now...let's get out of there without some UC idiot throwing a punch.

[Muskie]

How much time before the UC players get overly frustrated and start shoving our players? They just can't hndle being down 20 pts.

Well nobody has been chirping in their ear all game. So I predict they'll be able to hold it together. Maybe.

[xubball1993]

Early Christmas present - thank you XMen!!

[paulxu]

You know we are the home team tonight, right?

You know what that means, right?

You're right!












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[Burrcats]

Xavier played fantastic tonight and you didn't even get much from Christon. Congrats.

[paulxu]

Mack taking starters out to do his part.

[Pete Delkus]

"Why so quiet"
This chant burns Mick.

Because of this hostile fan attack, Mick and BOD will make effort to move this game to the Lasalle HS gym or end the series.

BY the way, Mack clearing the bench was an awesome move.

[Jesuit4Life]

That was FUN.

[GoMuskies]

If that was the last game ever between the two programs, AWESOME!

[bjf123]

I have to admit, I'm surprised by the result. Happy as hell, but surprised.


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[XU '11]

I don't know what the crowd split is, but it sure seems like as many XU supporters, and I can hear them clearly over the strange announcers.

I have no clue what the crowd split is, but I have a hunch it would sound like that regardless since X dominated from the start. UC fans had a small run to start the second half but really nothing else to cheer for.

[GreatWhiteNorth]

We won! We won! What a Christmas gift! Surprised? Yes, but we deserve it. I still cannot believe our shooting %.

[paulxu]

My hat's off to Blobfan. She did it. Last minute, had me worried, but was there when it counted. She's undefeated this year.

Respect the Streak!

[X Factor]

Awesome game by the Muskies!! JMart was absolutely money tonight. Farr was great except for foul trouble. Christon was irrelevant but he hit 2 huge threes - love seeing that from him. Randolph finally hit some jumpers.

What a night!!!

Go Muskies!!

[Retire33]

#zipemup

[American X]

Emptying the bench in the Crosstown Shootout is an utterly satisfying feeling. My goodness what an incredible win.

[XU-PA]

Completely outcoached, Cronin was a total embarrassment. You could see how he gave up emotionally shorthly after he was t'd up. by the second half he barely got out of his seat.

Certainly not the best game ever played by a Xavier team, but the half court defense worked, and the Musketeers are deep enough to survive even near fatal foul trouble.

and UC stinks

[LadyMuskie]

#zipemup

gangstas!

[jhelmes37]

That game was the first time I've seen the swag in a very long time. That chest bumping, head nodding, zip 'em up swag.

It was fun to watch.

[Retire33]

That game was the first time I've seen the swag in a very long time. That chest bumping, head nodding, zip 'em up swag.

It was fun to watch.

That is always fun!!!

[coasterville95]

Wonderful game. The way the team stepped up without Semaj is a vast improvement over Atlantis. I do dare say the team has improved in the last month.

Currently having a post game celebratory Northern Liberties IPA at the Moerlein Lager Haus.

[XUFan09]

My hat's off to Blobfan. She did it. Last minute, had me worried, but was there when it counted. She's undefeated this year.

Respect the Streak!

There's something to this...Blobfan consistently gets up new avatars and we win the first five. Then she doesn't just miss doing it for the Atlantis games but is prevented fully from doing it by getting really sick, and the team just looks like shit in their three losses. She gets back to it after that, and they win three straight!

Help us, Blobfan...You're our only hope.

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[XU-PA]

In the make nice pre game news conference friday Coach Mack talked about how he and Cronin's older brother played AAU ball together, and when little Mick was mouthing off in the car on the ride they would reach around to the back seat and punch him to get him to shut up.

Coach did it again tonight in US Bank Arena.

[GoMuskies]

I honestly cannot believe Mick Cronin is UC's coach. What a joke.

[Burrcats]

I honestly cannot believe Mick Cronin is UC's coach. What a joke.

I miss Huggy, I still follow UC but it hasn't been the same since he left.

[THRILLHOUSE]

gangstas!

Not thugs, but tough guys!

[coasterville95]

Just imagne for a minute how much closer the game would have been if Kilpatrick knew how to shoot free throws.

I admit I joined with the students in the "Whose Kilpatrick?" Chants/Taunts.

[DART87]

Not thugs, but tough guys!

Exactly...let's not take this out of context again!

[GreatWhiteNorth]

BTW I do not see K.Richard's name in the box score. Was he there?

[Retire33]

BTW I do not see K.Richard's name in the box score. Was he there?

Was in game last 30 secs or so on 1st half

[The_Mack_Pack]

How about Brandon Randolph? He hit a HUGE three that finished the UC "comeback" and really played under control without Semaj in there with him. He's gonna be really good.

[blobfan]

There's something to this...Blobfan consistently gets up new avatars and we win the first five. Then she doesn't just miss doing it for the Atlantis games but is prevented fully from doing it by getting really sick, and the team just looks like shit in their three losses. She gets back to it after that, and they win three straight!

Help us, Blobfan...You're our only hope.

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I did have the avatar updated for the first game of Atlantis, though. So I'm down one for the season. Hopefully my record is better going forward.

[XUFan09]

I did have the avatar updated for the first game of Atlantis, though. So I'm down one for the season. Hopefully my record is better going forward.

Iowa coming back to win that game took an act of God on their behalf. Your powers are somewhat limited in that regard.

[xumuskies08]

I like it when the guys wearing white and navy blue win.

[BandAid]

This won't be popular. But I'm impressed with Kilpatrick. He's keeping UC in this by himself.

Who's Kilpatrick?

[XUFan09]

Kenpom update just came through to include this game, and some guy on their team, I forget his name, had a usage rate of 43%. That's 43% of UC's possessions ended in him turning it over, making a shot, or missing a shot without his team getting the rebound. That's no way win when the guy isn't lights out (which he wasn't).

[BMoreX]

Game is being replayed in fs ohio.

[coasterville95]

I just heard Fox Sports Ohio is showing the beatdown again. I just tuned in and the second half is starting. This will be good as I missed the first 4 minutes of it due to long restroom lines.

Let the beatdown continue, again

[coasterville95]

Just wonderful - the "Whose Kilpatrick" chant/taunt during his free throws is coming over loud and clear on TV!!!!

And hearing Herb's THREE POINT FIELD GOAL!!!! call loud and clear, over the Fox Sports talking heads is great as well.

I'd say we made a good showing on the court and in the stands on this one.

[coasterville95]

And they just showed the Lenny Brown #1 in the county, #2 in their own city play!

[BMoreX]

That Semaj 3 was NBA range.

[coasterville95]

Do you realize we didn't score in what the last 4 minutes of the game, and still won!

And the "Why so Quiet!" taunt came across loud and clear as well!

[GoMuskies]

Now we need a replay of last night live chat session as well. My memory of it is kind of hazy, but I THINK it was epic.

[STL_XUfan]

Now we need a replay of last night live chat session as well. My memory of it is kind of hazy, but I THINK it was epic.

They are all preserved if you click on the link.

[paulxu]

Do you realize we didn't score in what the last 4 minutes of the game, and still won!

When you hit a 3, with 3:43 on the clock, to go up 22, you often don't need to score again.

[paulxu]

They are all preserved if you click on the link.

I wish you hadn't told me that.

[GoMuskies]

I wish you hadn't told me that.

Agree. I just wanted to imagine that it was great. The reality is probably a bit less attractive.

[coasterville95]

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A photo is worth a thousand words.

[GIMMFD]

Lovely. Absolutely lovely. From being able to taunt UC with "Why so quiet" and "Who's Kilpatrick", and the better part of it being nice and loud on TV... there's just something that really satisfies me about this win. Boy, we looked damn good.

[paulxu]

Agree. I just wanted to imagine that it was great. The reality is probably a bit less attractive.

I was thinking more along the lines of the NSA running the chat site for some inexplicable reason.

[paulxu]

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A photo is worth a thousand words.

Hah! If you look under the score, it lists the players on the floor at the end of the game. All our players had "0" points, and we still won by 17.

[coasterville95]

You can tell the X vs UC fans today. The X fans are gloating in that glorious smackdown on Saturday. re UC fans are rehashing the brawl. Again.

Now comes the true war - apparently both schools are adamant about their vision for the future of the Shootout. In a battle of egos, PR, $$$, pride and what all else, who will give in

US Bank arena was a compromise. It's no longer tenable to us, so what is the new compromise. Well have our home game at Cintas and you can have your game at US Bank?

At least we can argue this after having boatraced them.

If, and I don't think anybody really wants this, the Shootout comes to an end, what an end it was. I think there is too much money involved to end it.

[throwbackmuskie]

We should treat UC like Udump and the other mid majors we play, come to Cintas and collect a small fee every year.

[coasterville95]

We haven't even offered UD that.

And define small fee. One article I read indicated each school gets about 220,000 from the Classic. Now they sold a lot less tickets this year so that number is going to take a hit. An article said it grossed 540,000 with 14 k sold, so using the same per capita gets you 395,000 with 10,250. They said the charity gets 50k. The arena gets 30k, and there are about 20k in fixed costs. So that's 295k this year or just under 150k to each school. So in 2 years each school took in 370k or thereabouts. Which is probably more than X made at Cintas Center on door. Concessions, merchandise and beer are another matter.

UC should be losing on the deal as they have 3,000 more seats they can sell at $40 each.

Nobody seems to acknowledge the piece of the pie being eaten by the parking operators and arena concessions, which all went to US Bank.

There is a lot of money involved here, and I can't imagine it's financially better to hold it at US Bank, primarily due to the loss of concession revenue. (And for UC parking revenue).

I was somewhat surprised to not see any Crosstown Classic merch on sale at US Bank.

[coasterville95]

Oh, and I loved the quote from one of the game write ups that the Bearcats shooting was so bad, they couldn't hit a beer mug if it was under the tap.

[Retire33]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o07zUJi6ro&feature=c4-overview&list=UUhRMBms7_NkRvj7aRd99r8w

Crosstown - A look back. Have some older footage then highlights from Sat. Great Production.

[boozehound]

You can tell the X vs UC fans today. The X fans are gloating in that glorious smackdown on Saturday. re UC fans are rehashing the brawl. Again.

Now comes the true war - apparently both schools are adamant about their vision for the future of the Shootout. In a battle of egos, PR, $$$, pride and what all else, who will give in

US Bank arena was a compromise. It's no longer tenable to us, so what is the new compromise. Well have our home game at Cintas and you can have your game at US Bank?

At least we can argue this after having boatraced them.

If, and I don't think anybody really wants this, the Shootout comes to an end, what an end it was. I think there is too much money involved to end it.

Yep.

Regarding UC fans: I found UC fans to be pretty good today. I had a couple of guys come up to me at the gym (I wear Xavier warmups pretty much every day when I workout so it's no secret who I was rooting for) and comment about how badly we beat the crap out of them.

[coasterville95]

And if you go on their message boards they are quick to throw their team under the bus. Let's see the salient points: they have Cronin as their coach, they don't like Cronins recruiting philosophy, they have Cronik as their coach, they don't Iile Cronins offense, they have Cronin as their coach, they have all bigs instead of all the various positions and try to win by brute force athleticism instead of basketball finesse, and they have Cronin as their coach.


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[throwbackmuskie]

We haven't even offered UD that.

And define small fee. One article I read indicated each school gets about 220,000 from the Classic. Now they sold a lot less tickets this year so that number is going to take a hit. An article said it grossed 540,000 with 14 k sold, so using the same per capita gets you 395,000 with 10,250. They said the charity gets 50k. The arena gets 30k, and there are about 20k in fixed costs. So that's 295k this year or just under 150k to each school. So in 2 years each school took in 370k or thereabouts. Which is probably more than X made at Cintas Center on door. Concessions, merchandise and beer are another matter.

UC should be losing on the deal as they have 3,000 more seats they can sell at $40 each.

Nobody seems to acknowledge the piece of the pie being eaten by the parking operators and arena concessions, which all went to US Bank.

There is a lot of money involved here, and I can't imagine it's financially better to hold it at US Bank, primarily due to the loss of concession revenue. (And for UC parking revenue).

I was somewhat surprised to not see any Crosstown Classic merch on sale at US Bank.

It was a joke.