crosstown back rub tix

[brownlavender]

I was looking online for tickets last night and was just about to put out $240 for two lower level tickets. As I proceeded to check out fee after fee kept adding to my tickets to push the price to nearly $300. This was going to be a Christmas present for me and my girlfriend until the fees made it too ridiculously expensive to get the tickets. My question to you is there any other sites where I can purchase reasonably priced decent tickets for the game.

[Muskie]

Stubhub?

[ammtd34]

2 on Stubhub in section 130, Row P will be $275 total.

[nuts4xu]

My question to you is there any other sites where I can purchase reasonably priced decent tickets for the game.

I doubt it. The powers that be figured it was better to rape their season ticket holders of their hard earned money for a game that will benefit a far fetched idea for a museum. I admire your efforts to go to the game, and wish you luck in your search.

Just a shame that you are going to pay through the nose for the tickets.

[xubrew]

It didn't sell out last year.

For prices like that I'd just take my chances on getting tickets at face value the day of the game, and if you can't...then oh well. Head over to a bar and watch it on HD for free with cheaper concessions.

Now, you really can't present that as a gift to your girlfriend the same way you could if you had already bought tickets, but still....

[drudy23]

You might be able to go to US Bank Arena and buy the tickets there...usually not a convenience fee in person.

[muskiefan82]

I; however, am more impressed with the fact that your girlfriend would regard this favorably as a gift to her. She sounds like a keeper.

[brownlavender]

she's definitely a keeper. I met her and she was a UC fan. our first year together I took her to just about every game, even the vandy game at vandy. The next year we got season tix and she's been cheering on the proper team ever since

[waggy]

That is rep worthy.

[STL_XUfan]

I had high hopes based on the thread title that someone found an ad on Craigslist giving away crosstown shoutout tickets in exchange for back rubs.

[coasterville95]

I bought through the Xavier ticket office - two in 126 row Q and only paid $110 or something like that for the pair.

Is this ticket master or some broker you are seeing $300 prices?

[Muskie in dayton]

I had high hopes based on the thread title that someone found an ad on Craigslist giving away crosstown shoutout tickets in exchange for back rubs.

My mind went straight to a massage with a happy ending, and then a XU game. I know what I'm asking for for Christmas.

[coasterville95]

Completely unscientific research on TicketMaster would suggest we are losing at Crosstown Ticket Selling. Badly even.

[Cheesehead]

I bet you can go down there and buy some tickets on the street the day of the game. Only bring with you what you are willing to spend. If that fails, head over to the Holy Grail or the Lager House and watch the game and get hammered. You will have enough money left over for cab fare home.

[Cheesehead]

Completely unscientific research on TicketMaster would suggest we are losing at Crosstown Ticket Selling. Badly even.

I have an excuse. Both kids have HS b-ball games that night. I would not contribute to this format though. I want it back on campus at normal prices, and part of the season ticket package. Screw the charity thing for this game and I say that as a person whose household gives a fair amount of money to various charities each year.

[boozehound]

Completely unscientific research on TicketMaster would suggest we are losing at Crosstown Ticket Selling. Badly even.

This game is completely stacked in UC fans favor in terms of attendance. They have tons of fans who haven't been to that crap-hole they call an Arena for years, but they will buy tickets for the Crosstown whateveritscalled downtown. I work with several of them. They have their tix for the Crosstown crapdown, but they haven't darkened the doors of the Shoemaker Center in almost a decade.

It's no wonder UC wants the game at a neutral site. They have trouble getting people to attend games at their on campus 'Arena' but plenty of fans who will go to US Bank Arena. Xavier is the opposite. We do better with attendance at our on campus Arena, but our fans are dis-interested in attending games at US Bank Arena. Perhaps UC should play all their games at US Bank Arena.

My wife and I went last year, and it was a horrible experience at a terrible venue.

[xumuskies08]

Having the game downtown will always be a lose-lose for XU. UC has close to 7 times the undergrad enrollment of XU plus who knows how many times the local alumni base.

Having the game downtown allows UC to whip their fans into frenzy and have a ton of them show up (why these same people don't show up at any of their on campus games is beyond me). Then when they have a home court advantage downtown they will use it as proof they are the superior program with superior fans.

The way they continue to call the Shootout "XU's Super Bowl" while acting like they couldn't care less is hilarious. It's clearly one of, if not the biggest non-conference games on both school's schedules every year.

[xumuskies08]

"@slrussell: Still about 6,000 tickets available for Saturday's Crosstown Classic at U.S. Bank between #Xavier & UC. 10,000 sold."

Pretty embarrassing for both schools. If demand is that low why aren't secondary market prices reflecting it? Cheapest on Stubhub right now are $53 per ticket. Ridiculous.

They need to include the Shootout in the season ticket plans plain and simple.

[coasterville95]

Consider that includes the hundreds if not thousands of tickets both schools passed out to their students

Unless they have a walk up frenzy, the upper level is going to be lonely.

[BMoreX]

Shannon Russell ‏@slrussell 23m

Still about 6,000 tickets available for Saturday's Crosstown Classic at U.S. Bank between #Xavier & UC. 10,000 sold.

EDIT: Oops, didn't see XUMuskie08's post.

[paulxu]

It boggles the mind that people could take one of the great rivalries in college basketball...and turn it into a giant, gaping, black hole.

Idiots.

[blueblob06]

Hope that this is the last game Xavier plays downtown for a long time.

[Cheesehead]

It boggles the mind that people could take one of the great rivalries in college basketball...and turn it into a giant, gaping, black hole.

Idiots.

yep, I think UC is to blame on this one as they apparently never want to set foot in Cintas again. However, jacking up the ticket prices under the guise of charity along with taking this game out of season ticket packages for both schools was a clusterf**k move.

[X-man]

Completely unscientific research on TicketMaster would suggest we are losing at Crosstown Ticket Selling. Badly even.

Of course! That's why sippin' mick and uc pushed so hard to take the game off campus. It turns the Shootout into a home gane for uc every season, and therefore increases the odds that they can win.

[boozehound]

Of course! That's why sippin' mick and uc pushed so hard to take the game off campus. It turns the Shootout into a home gane for uc every season, and therefore increases the odds that they can win.

I really hope that when it comes time to renegotiate this abortion that we say it is either on campus or we cancel the series. I don't care enough about this game to cow tow to UC's douchebaggery. I would happily see it not played anymore vs. continuing at US Bank Arena.

[Juice]

I really hope that when it comes time to renegotiate this abortion that we say it is either on campus or we cancel the series. I don't care enough about this game to cow tow to UC's douchebaggery. I would happily see it not played anymore vs. continuing at US Bank Arena.

I boycotted last year and I am again this year. Caving into UC is bullshit and I want no part of it. I'm with you, home and home or nothing at all.

I also do not like the idea of home, away, US Bank every three years. It still caters to UC.

[boozehound]

I boycotted last year and I am again this year. Caving into UC is bullshit and I want no part of it. I'm with you, home and home or nothing at all.

I also do not like the idea of home, away, US Bank every three years. It still caters to UC.

There is no reason to play this game at US Bank Arena ever again. UC is the only one who wants that, because it benefits them directly. As far as I'm concerned we can get rid of this game and let them muddle through their crappy AAC schedule with 50% attendance. F them. We don't need this game any more than UC does at this point. There was a time when we might have had to placate those douchers to keep a relatively high-profile rivalry game, but that time has passed. UC needs this game on their schedule as much as, or more than, Xavier does.

[xumuskies08]

There is no reason to play this game at US Bank Arena ever again. UC is the only one who wants that, because it benefits them directly. As far as I'm concerned we can get rid of this game and let them muddle through their crappy AAC schedule with 50% attendance. F them. We don't need this game any more than UC does at this point. There was a time when we might have had to placate those douchers to keep a relatively high-profile rivalry game, but that time has passed. UC needs this game on their schedule as much as, or more than, Xavier does.

I hate the current Shootout situation as much as anybody, but let's not get carried away. Sure, neither team "needs" the other on their schedule but XU would be stupid to drop UC from the schedule (and vice versa for UC). A high profile game against a nationally recognized team is never a bad thing.

[X-band '01]

True, but Xavier is just as capable of landing another nationally recognized team on the schedule.

It would be awesome if Xavier and Ohio State agreed to a home-and-home on the same day X announces they're dropping out of the Shootout, but that's never going to happen.

[boozehound]

Let's not get carried away. Sure, neither team "needs" the other on their schedule but XU would be stupid to drop UC from the schedule (and vice versa for UC). A high profile game against a nationally recognized team is never a bad thing.

I agree that both teams should want the game to be played. I don't agree that Xavier should submit to UC's wishes regarding venue.

UC should be less worried about violence on the basketball court and more worried about the violence on and around their campus against their students. The pageantry surrounding this game on UC's part is ridiculous - asking for the series to be played in perpetuity at a 'neutral' site after one on-court fight in which the worst injury by far was suffered by a Xavier player.

I'd love to see it continue, but I'm willing to see it end.

[waggy]

No one knows what the landscape will look like in 10 years. This is a special game. You keep it even if it isn't currently the set up that X wants.

[vee4xu]

Waggy, interesting what you posted. I actually feel the opposite and posted as much on Shannon's twitter site today. I think the game has outgrown its usefulness for both teams. For X, the David versus Goliath panache is long gone. For UC, it is never good for them to explain losing to a team from a much smaller school, even if the program at X is better than UC. Actually, with UC in the new AAC and X being in the new BE, an argument can be made that UC now needs this game more than X for RPI factors. Shannon posted that there are 6,000 tickets remaining for this one. Selling out this game was never a problem when it was played on each campus. It is just awkward playing the game in a neutral location. I say, play the game scheduled this Saturday, then let it go. Again, it is outlived its life.

[waggy]

It's a basketball game. Good grief. Just because you little bitches don't get your way you want to cry and end the series. There is name for that. It's called a Mick. Don't be a mick.

[X-man]

No one knows what the landscape will look like in 10 years. This is a special game. You keep it even if it isn't currently the set up that X wants.

Uh, why?

[waggy]

Uh, grow a pair? I got no sympathy for a bunch of chickenshits not willing to play the game. Wanna quit cause they don't get their way. And that's all this is. Actually it's worse, cause it's not like anyone here running their mouths actually has to suit up.

[X-man]

Uh, grow a pair? I got no sympathy for a bunch of chickenshits not willing to play the game. Wanna quit cause they don't get their way. And that's all this is. Actually it's worse, cause it's not like anyone here running their mouths actually has to suit up.

I take it that you feel the same way about uc if they decide they won't play the game if it goes back on campus. My view is that the game is more fun and there is more passion when it's played on campus; it also means that it is not a "home game" for uc every year. Gonads have nothing to do with it. Grow up and recognize that just because someone doesn't share your view about the Shootout doesn't mean that they are chickensh*t.

[boozehound]

Uh, grow a pair? I got no sympathy for a bunch of chickenshits not willing to play the game. Wanna quit cause they don't get their way. And that's all this is. Actually it's worse, cause it's not like anyone here running their mouths actually has to suit up.

You are a straight up douche. For real. You want to talk about 'chickenshits'? How about guys who call other people 'little bitches' over an internet message board because they disagree with them. Your posts in this thread, like most of your 7500 posts on this board, add nothing constructive to this conversation.

To address your 'opinion' on the shootout: You must be quite the negotiator. Just give the other side whatever they want, or risk being a 'little bitch'. At what point do UC's pointless 'demands' amount to enough to stand by your principles at the risk of ending the series? What if they want to play every game at the Shoemaker Center? Should we just agree to that too?

UC has no valid reason to demand that every game be held at a Neutral site (that's not really neutral at all). Xavier is no longer of a stature that we must agree to lopsided terms to preserve this series. We would all like to see it continue, but not at the expense of Xavier bowing to UC's stupid 'demands'.

[X-band '01]

You mean the Gnome's stupid demands.

[Tardy Turtle]

Boozehound is a Great American.

[RealDeal]

Boozehound is a Great American.

+1

[waggy]

But Emp says in another thread that there are too many home games and that is why the Cintas has been empty??

And there are hundreds of comments made on here how 5/3 gets no one, and Cintas is the pot at the end of the rainbow...???

US Bank is a neutral site. It's not UC's fault X fans won't support their team. That's the just the stone cold truth, and maybe evidence that some of the BS that gets posted here is just that. There was time when this fan base would have played the game on mars. I think it's about time that X fans started acting a little more collegial regarding this game for the good of the game.

And no one is suggesting that the series be moved exclusively to 5/3.

[X-man]

But Emp says in another thread that there are too many home games and that is why the Cintas has been empty??

And there are hundreds of comments made on here how 5/3 gets no one, and Cintas is the pot at the end of the rainbow...???

US Bank is a neutral site. It's not UC's fault X fans won't support their team. That's the just the stone cold truth, and maybe evidence that some of the BS that gets posted here is just that. There was time when this fan base would have played the game on mars. I think it's about time that X fans started acting a little more collegial regarding this game for the good of the game.

And no one is suggesting that the series be moved exclusively to 5/3.

You might consider taking your own advice before trashing people who disagree with you.

[waggy]

So really got nothing.

[boozehound]

But Emp says in another thread that there are too many home games and that is why the Cintas has been empty??

And there are hundreds of comments made on here how 5/3 gets no one, and Cintas is the pot at the end of the rainbow...???

US Bank is a neutral site. It's not UC's fault X fans won't support their team. That's the just the stone cold truth, and maybe evidence that some of the BS that gets posted here is just that. There was time when this fan base would have played the game on mars. I think it's about time that X fans started acting a little more collegial regarding this game for the good of the game.

And no one is suggesting that the series be moved exclusively to 5/3.

Right. We are past that time. We now get to negotiate as equals, instead of negotiating from a position of greater need for the game than UC. There are many, many years where Xavier needed the shootout far more than UC did. That isn't the case anymore. I don't see any need to let UC walk all over us. We don't have to be willing to 'play the game on mars'. We are equals. They shouldn't get to call the shots anymore and make us jump through hoops just to play the game.


So really got nothing.

I don't know if there is something going on in your life that is causing you to act like this, but you have been a major dick lately. You may not realize this, which is why I am taking the time to inform you. The flood of reps I have received from my previous post in this thread suggests that I'm not the only one who thinks that. I don't recall you being this obtuse in the past, but lately you have been rivaling LH. You frequently resort to personal attacks and generally refuse to engage in meaningful discussions with those who have an opposing point of view. You make a provocative (and often insulting) statement and then refuse to acknowledge or consider any counter arguments.

If some negative event has caused this change in your behavior, I hope you overcome it and post in a productive manner again. With the way you have been acting on here lately, you may want to consider taking a break. I'm not sure that many would miss you, since you don't really seem to contribute to the discourse on this board in a constructive or meaningful way.

[ammtd34]

Because there were great games in the past and the fans hated each other, we have to continue forever regardless of any other circumstances (location, conference affiliation, state of either program)? If the shootout stops, it doesn't mean those other games never happened. It doesn't take away their meaning or anyone's memory of them. If it stops, it's because there isn't a good enough reason for it to continue. The game has seemed cheap to me the last few years, like the excitement is trying to be manufactured rather than allowed to grow on its own. If it stops, I'm fine with it. If it continues, I'm fine with it. I just don't understand the point in continuing to play just for the sake of playing.

[X-band '01]

In defense of Waggy, his viewpoint now isn't any different than when we had the same discussion last year.

Unless Waggy creates a new username and starts negging and attacks every poster with the intent of getting the last word in, he's got a long way to go to get on the LH fasttrack.

[boozehound]

In defense of Waggy, his viewpoint now isn't any different than when we had the same discussion last year.

Unless Waggy creates a new username and starts negging and attacks every poster with the intent of getting the last word in, he's got a long way to go to get on the LH fasttrack.

Fair enough. The LH comparison is probably a little overboard.

I don't have any problem whatsoever with waggy's opinion on this topic. I have a problem with the manner in which he states his opinion. It involves very little give and take and a lot of name calling. He isn't explaining his point of view. He's just calling people chickenshits and little bitches because they disagree with him. If everybody acted like he does this board would be a disaster.

[GoMuskies]

Then we would need the Shadow to come in here and regulate!

[waggy]

You have to come to terms with the fact UC might not be willing to return to Cintas until attitudes change. Taking your ball and going home is not an appropriate response imo. There has been way too much of that type of talk on these boards. I don't agree with it. I won't tell you otherwise. And if X needs to "be the bigger person" here, then I expect them to be so. I find it sad that X fans cried like little babies when UC said this series did nothing for them, but UC continued to play it. Another stone cold fact. You may not like my delivery (or the truth apparently) but I don't care too much for longwinded posts. Sorry.

[X-band '01]

You have to come to terms with the fact UC might not be willing to return to Cintas until attitudes change. Taking your ball and going home is not an appropriate response imo.

To your first point, any notion that UC is playing this game downtown purely due to Xavier fans' attitudes is garbage. If it were, you would hear Cronin bitching about how the Xavier administration had their priorities right with the apology tour and about how the fans are in the wrong by complaining loudly about the "reflection sessions" and thereby creating a hostile attitude on the floor.

To your second point, I get a feeling we're not having this discussion about "taking our ball and going home" when it comes to no longer playing Dayton and playing Miami only at Cintas.

[boozehound]

What 'attitudes' need to 'change' for UC to come back to Cintas? As far as I'm concerned the attitude that needs to change is UC's.

The year before the 'brawl' UC beat the crap out of us at the Shoe and ran their mouths the entire time. We took our beating and left. The following year we exacted our revenge at Cintas and ran our mouths the entire time. Some of their jungle thug players couldn't handle losing so they got physical. Now they are going to act like they are afraid to come back to Cintas because of that incident.

When Xavier fans 'cried like little babies' when UC said the series did nothing for them, our school wasn't simultaneously demanding that the game be held at a (not really) 'Neutral' site of our choosing. I don't see how you can't understand or acknowledge that UC's insistence on playing the game at US Bank Arena is different than anything previously dealt with in the history of the rivalry.

I think that Xavier did their part to further the rivalry by agreeing to UC's ridiculous 2 year 'Neutral' site experiment. We didn't want to do it, but we decided to make the effort to continue the rivalry. We agreed to a 'cooling off' period of 2 years. Now UC wants to make that permanent, for their benefit, and I think we should stand our ground.

What does UC have to do for you to be OK with Xavier standing their ground on this game? If they want to have all games at 5/3 Arena should Xavier simply acquiesce?

[LadyMuskie]

You have to come to terms with the fact UC might not be willing to return to Cintas until attitudes change. Taking your ball and going home is not an appropriate response imo. There has been way too much of that type of talk on these boards. I don't agree with it. I won't tell you otherwise. And if X needs to "be the bigger person" here, then I expect them to be so. I find it sad that X fans cried like little babies when UC said this series did nothing for them, but UC continued to play it. Another stone cold fact. You may not like my delivery (or the truth apparently) but I don't care too much for longwinded posts. Sorry.

Here's a stone cold fact: Xavier no longer needs to play UC to help our resume. Period. End of story. We don't need them. We used them when we needed them and now we don't need them. They never needed us before, but they will next year when their conference is CUSA Take II and playing us and (God forbid) beating us, will help them tremendously. The tables have been turned. College basketball isn't about charity. We're not in it to help our opponents in whatever we can. The billboards say "In It to Win It".

Here's another stone cold fact: Mick Cronin does not want to play this game because he's a sore loser. He watched UC lose when he was under Huggs, and now he watches them lose as the head coach. He can't handle losing to anyone, but he particularly doesn't want to lose to his big brother's friend from high school. Cronin is a big bundle of neuroses in a tiny body. His post-brawl conference was nothing but an act, and because he did it well he got what he wanted - the game moved off campus.

Here's another stone cold fact: We built Cintas Center so we could have an on-campus state of the art arena, which for a school our size was and is pretty spectacular. There was a time when we needed US Bank to play the Kansas State and Illinois teams of the college basketball world, but no longer. We used those games to get us to where we are now. UC isn't Duke. They're not UNC. They're not UK. We don't kowtow to them just to keep some game going because Skyline Chili likes the free advertising on ESPN and it sounds neat to say the schools are so close. If you want to be big time, you have to act big time, and big time programs don't allow ANY other school, particularly one in a lesser conference, to dictate all the terms of the game.

More than one Xavier official has made it clear to more than one group of people Xavier wants the game to be played at home. Mike Bobinski said it at the season ticket holder event last year, and Greg Christopher said it this year at another event. If Xavier wants it at home and UC wants it at US Bank, then we either reach a compromise or end the game altogether. All good things must come to an end. We will survive without the UC game on our schedule. I guarantee it.

[casualfan]

I think some of you guys are underestimating how easy it is to book home an home series with top 50 level schools.

I'm not saying it's not possible, but the "we'll just book a home game with someone else" crowd is looking at that a little too easily IMHO.

[chico]

You have to come to terms with the fact UC might not be willing to return to Cintas until attitudes change. Taking your ball and going home is not an appropriate response imo. There has been way too much of that type of talk on these boards. I don't agree with it. I won't tell you otherwise. And if X needs to "be the bigger person" here, then I expect them to be so. I find it sad that X fans cried like little babies when UC said this series did nothing for them, but UC continued to play it. Another stone cold fact. You may not like my delivery (or the truth apparently) but I don't care too much for longwinded posts. Sorry.

I understand your point, but the message to UC should be home and home, take it or leave it. My guess is they'll leave it. But this neutral site folly crap has to end. UC can end it, but there's one guy over there who doesn't want to come back. Anyone with half a brain (which is half a brain more than that bozo wanna be) can figure out who it is.

[LadyMuskie]

I think some of you guys are underestimating how easy it is to book home an home series with top 50 level schools.

I'm not saying it's not possible, but the "we'll just book a home game with someone else" crowd is looking at that a little too easily IMHO.

If we can book a home and home with a top 50 level school, we'd be ahead of where we are now, since the UC game is not home and home.

[vee4xu]

If we can book a home and home with a top 50 level school, we'd be ahead of where we are now, since the UC game is not home and home.

This.