Game Thread: Miami vs. Xavier (November 20, 2013)

[paulxu]

http://cstest.s3.amazonaws.com/teams/RedHawks.jpgVS.http://cache.lego.com/upload/contentTemplating/MinifiguresBios/images/pic773F455B41A27FB44B60F2397BAA49D7.jpg

Miami RedHawks (0-2) vs. Xavier University Musketeers (3-0)
Wednesday, November 20, 2013 at 8:00 p.m. ET
Cintas Center, Cincinnati, Ohio
Live Chat (http://www.chatzy.com/32573582761803)
Television: Fox Sports 1
Radio: 55KRC

[Titanxman04]

Race to fifty?

[paulxu]

OK, clearly I'm launching this thread a little early.
But there are some good reasons.
1 - Students should be there force
2 - Looking at the national scene if you are a basketball junkie, this is the only game on national broadcast on Wednesday. The rest of the slate requires computer feeds (ESPN 3), special packages, (ESPNU) or are regional telecasts. We are the only game in town for one night this year. ESPN is showing NBA, and the deuce has some football game on. Campbell at Cincinnati, Dayton at Georgia Tech? Please.
3 - Give Blobfan a chance to change avatar and respect streak.

I hope (I know this is a long shot) that they give us the #1 announcers. That would be the icing on the cake.

[blobfan]

Race to fifty?

Points or fouls?

[The_Mack_Pack]

Race to fifty?

This is a Charlie Coles Miami team anymore, they've given up over 70 points in both games so far this season which was unheard of under Coles.

[XUOHTX]

I hope (I know this is a long shot) that they give us the #1 announcers. That would be the icing on the cake.

Hearing Gus Johnson call a game with Semaj is going to be so great...whether its this game or not. I can't wait.

[X-band '01]

OK, clearly I'm launching this thread a little early.
But there are some good reasons.
1 - Students should be there force
2 - Looking at the national scene if you are a basketball junkie, this is the only game on national broadcast on Wednesday. The rest of the slate requires computer feeds (ESPN 3), special packages, (ESPNU) or are regional telecasts. We are the only game in town for one night this year. ESPN is showing NBA, and the deuce has some football game on. Campbell at Cincinnati, Dayton at Georgia Tech? Please.
3 - Give Blobfan a chance to change avatar and respect streak.

I hope (I know this is a long shot) that they give us the #1 announcers. That would be the icing on the cake.

Per GoXavier.com they will have Thom Brennaman and Kevin O'Neill doing the PxP on TV.

[bleedXblue]

OK, clearly I'm launching this thread a little early.
But there are some good reasons.
1 - Students should be there force
2 - Looking at the national scene if you are a basketball junkie, this is the only game on national broadcast on Wednesday. The rest of the slate requires computer feeds (ESPN 3), special packages, (ESPNU) or are regional telecasts. We are the only game in town for one night this year. ESPN is showing NBA, and the deuce has some football game on. Campbell at Cincinnati, Dayton at Georgia Tech? Please.
3 - Give Blobfan a chance to change avatar and respect streak.

I hope (I know this is a long shot) that they give us the #1 announcers. That would be the icing on the cake.

This game will barely be a blip on the radar screen of 99% of college basketball fans. Sorry, its just not there.

Locally even, Miami has been so bad since Wally that Im not sure most of their fans even care about basketball anymore.

[LA Muskie]

FYI: The XU website shows 55KRC for the radio call for tonight's game. (It's listed above as "TBA".)

[GoMuskies]

Xavier is a 15 point favorite tonight.

[XUOHTX]

Xavier is a 15,000,000 point favorite tonight.

Fixed that for you.

[GIMMFD]

This is going to be a slaughter. Semaj is going to have his will with these guys. I just hope they bring the fire thing for the intros again personally.

[paulxu]

Muskies playing very loose...maybe too loose.

[paulxu]

Also very sloppy.

[JAPER]

Opposite of the tenn game so far. Good shooting both.

[JAPER]

Nice mini run by x. Up 6 with 7:55 to go. 1st half.

[The_Mack_Pack]

James Farr looks really active so far, seems to have his hand in every play.

[paulxu]

Did the Popes retire?

[Muskie]

Apologies. It seems there is a 10 person cap for chat. I'll be looking for somewhere bigger. I will also check into how much it costs for a hosted chat room with chatzy

[The_Mack_Pack]

Anyone know if Philmore is available tonight? I haven't seen him yet.

[CleXU]

Rick Broering ‏@musketeerreport 56m
Also, Reynolds the first big off the bench - not Philmore. Philmore's wrist maybe a little sore after hurting it in practice.

[The_Mack_Pack]

Rick Broering ‏@musketeerreport 56m
Also, Reynolds the first big off the bench - not Philmore. Philmore's wrist maybe a little sore after hurting it in practice.

Thanks, good thing we don't need him tonight. Farr and Reynolds are holding down the fort quite well.

[paulxu]

I see ESPN still has their panties in a wad; won't post a box score of our game during the game.

[American X]

I see ESPN still has their panties in a wad; won't post a box score of our game during the game.

So just follow the Xavier GameTracker - http://www.goxavier.com/gametracker/launch/gt_mbaskbl.html?event=1297432&school=xavi&sport=mbaskbl&camefrom=&startschool=&

[bleedXblue]

I see ESPN still has their panties in a wad; won't post a box score of our game during the game.

CNNSI has one

[paulxu]

You'd think that Fox Sports 1 would have it too.

[XU3232]

I love seeing Semaj hit his free throws tonight. Hopefully this gets him out of his funk.

[paulxu]

Is the big blue X in the middle of the floor bigger than last year?
(things you notice when your team is way ahead)

[Jesuit4Life]

You'd think that Fox Sports 1 would have it too.

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/gameTrax?gameId=201311200682

[UCGRAD4X]

double double for Farr!
Holy shit!
It's nice when the unexpected guy like Farr gets going.

[The_Mack_Pack]

double double for Farr!
Holy shit!
It's nice when the unexpected guy like Farr gets going.

Farr has a sweet stroke! He and Reynolds are absolute monsters on the boards.

[paulxu]

Interesting, only 26 total fouls, and that lets the game end in well under 2 hours.

[SemajParlor]

Watching team basketball sure is fun when everything is clicking.

[Mel Cooley XU'81]

Looking good.

[Caveat]

Watching team basketball sure is fun when everything is clicking.

Watching a team that has a bench is really cool too.

[Xman95]

Shannon confirmed that Philmore didn't play because of the sore wrist. Perhaps he needs to learn wrist exercises from Lamar.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_vCqNV5lcY48/SpYTcFTPdsI/AAAAAAAACT4/2xK9_DJZHT0/s320/javelin-lamar-729027.jpg.jpg

[GIMMFD]

It's refreshing that we don't have to just rely on Semaj, we have so much more this year, and way many more threats. We looked very fluid tonight, and thank god the refs didn't blow the whistle every 12 seconds. Also our three point shooting was great. Hats off to Justin Martin too, he had a pretty good game, aaaand Semaj was a lot better from the three point strike. This was without Philmore too, which is pretty exciting stuff! ON TO ACBU OR WHATEVER!

[wkrq59]

Just a few things: X swept all important categories, points in paint, 32-20, rebounding 42-25, pts of TO, 15-10, 30 made baskets, 20 assists, 2d chance 20-2, fast break 15-12, 9 turnovers, 8 of 12 FT, 66.7 held a team under 52 pts, held their leading scorer Reggie Johnson to 5 pts, 18 below his average. Total team effort even if it's a cliche, 4 double figure scorers led by James Farr, 11-11 reb. Dee Davis 15. best game yet.

[X-band '01]

Box Score Taken from Miami's board (http://www.miamihawktalk.com/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=58870)

Check out the 3 refs they had for the game.

[Lloyd Braun]

Box Score Taken from Miami's board (http://www.miamihawktalk.com/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=58870)

Check out the 3 refs they had for the game.

WTF!? That's funny. Also it looks like Tu and DFW played in garbage time.

[Pete Delkus]

A game like last nights is big. It allows players like Farr and Reynolds to play meaningful minutes and gain confidence.

However, Big East Big men like Providence's Batts, Nov's Pinkston, St. John's Sampson and others will be tougher than the guys Miami rolled out last night.

Regardless, watching those 2 last night, with their different skill set's, yet playing together, was fantastic.

[bobbiemcgee]

Farr plays with a lot of passion. He is determined that no one else is getting that rebound, period. Somebody lit a bonfire under this kid.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Blake McLimmons for Miami is no slouch. He played well for Michigan but saw the writing on the wall with McGary/Horford/Morgan all in front of him.

[X-band '01]

Miami has reached a new low in their program - they lose at home 65-63 to D-III Wilmington College.

1,932 people showed up for that titanic struggle.

[xudash]

Their fans are bitching about us not wanting to continue the series with them on their message board. Frankly, I respect rivalries and I respect Miami, but they can't possibly expect us to continue this with them if they're going to play at this level.

[X-band '01]

Right now, the odds are better of NKU getting a home-and-home than Miami.

At least NKU has the excuse of going through their transitional phase (currently in Year 2) to Division I.

[Juice]

Their fans are bitching about us not wanting to continue the series with them on their message board. Frankly, I respect rivalries and I respect Miami, but they can't possibly expect us to continue this with them if they're going to play at this level.

I just read their board. Christ, that is one delusional fan base. In what way do they think they are even close to X's and UC's equal to still deserve a home and home?

[XUFan09]

What's the link for their board. This sounds entertaining.

[xudash]

What's the link for their board. This sounds entertaining.

http://www.miamihawktalk.com/home

[XUFan09]

http://www.miamihawktalk.com/home

That is one ugly website format.

[XUFan09]

That is one ugly website format.

And ugly thread.

[Nigel Tufnel]

Go Fighting Quakers!! The college where a dude lost a nut in a fraternity hazing initiation a couple weeks ago. Kind of feel sorry for Miami PG Quentin Rollins...he is from Wilmington. Next time he's in town, I gotta believe he is going to hear about that loss. Horrible.

[X-band '01]

Why? Just because Miami lost to a team that doesn't have a single athletic scholly is no cause for concern.

[outsideobserver11]

Go Fighting Quakers!! The college where a dude lost a nut in a fraternity hazing initiation a couple weeks ago. Kind of feel sorry for Miami PG Quentin Rollins...he is from Wilmington. Next time he's in town, I gotta believe he is going to hear about that loss. Horrible.

Never been more proud of my Quakers. Proud alum here!!!

[Fireball]

I have to admit, despite the fact that I completely understand the reasons behind it, it sucks that we're apparently not going to be playing Miami and Dayton. Miami less than Dayton, because I think the Dayton rivalry is a lot of fun, but it still sucks.

I'd also hoped that now that NKU is in D1 we'd strike up a series with them, but the likeliness of that seems very small as well.

Again, I understand the landscape we're in now, but it would be nice if we continued to play the local teams, despite their stature.

[xavierj]

I have to admit, despite the fact that I completely understand the reasons behind it, it sucks that we're apparently not going to be playing Miami and Dayton. Miami less than Dayton, because I think the Dayton rivalry is a lot of fun, but it still sucks.

I'd also hoped that now that NKU is in D1 we'd strike up a series with them, but the likeliness of that seems very small as well.

Again, I understand the landscape we're in now, but it would be nice if we continued to play the local teams, despite their stature.

I am sure the coaches do not feel that way. You gain very little by playing those teams and stand to lose much more. Why would anyone want to play at Miami? And why play a team like Dayton who views you as their superbowl? Dayton wants to recruit against Xavier so why play them? I would much rather play home and homes with schools that can help you.

[MuskieCinci]

I have to admit, despite the fact that I completely understand the reasons behind it, it sucks that we're apparently not going to be playing Miami and Dayton. Miami less than Dayton, because I think the Dayton rivalry is a lot of fun, but it still sucks.

I'd also hoped that now that NKU is in D1 we'd strike up a series with them, but the likeliness of that seems very small as well.

Again, I understand the landscape we're in now, but it would be nice if we continued to play the local teams, despite their stature.

I agree to a certain extent. We certainly can't just fill up our OOC schedule with all of these schools though, so for me it would have to be an every other year kind of situation. One year we might play NKU, the next Miami, whoever else you want to throw in the mix.

[BandAid]

Dream:

Battle for Ohio Tournament.

Xavier
Cincinnati
Ohio State
Dayton
Miami
Toledo
Youngstown
Wright St
Akron

Plenty of teams to make an 8-team tourney, although some are from the same conference. Get a chance to play in-state rivals without it being a home & home.

It'll never happen, but it would be a fun event.

[nuts4xu]

Again, I understand the landscape we're in now, but it would be nice if we continued to play the local teams, despite their stature.

It just isn't going to happen. As you said you understand the landscape, and I am sure you understand the reality of why we can't play home and homes with the likes of Miami, Akron, and Wright State. The rivalry will suffer with Miami, mostly because they suck so bad. The dayton rivalry will remain, no matter how often we play the melon humpers up north.

It would be nice if we filled up our "buy game" non con schedule with local teams, but again, that is unrealistic. If we schedule Miami at Miami, we are supposed to win. Even if we win, it is no surprise, and no benefit. We play them at Cintas, we are supposed to win, and there is even less benefit. If we lose to Miami at Miami, it is a mark on our season we can't remove. The ramifications are felt long after the game, and the benefits to playing them (and beating them) there, do NOT outweigh the rewards of chancing a loss. We lose to them at home, it is even worse, but the chances of losing to them at home when they are as lousy as they are now are not that great.

[Nigel Tufnel]

Never been more proud of my Quakers. Proud alum here!!!

Proud of beating Miami or proud that a kid lost his testicle due to the Gobblers (yes, that's the nickname for the fraternity and I have no idea why) hazing him at your alma mater? There are going to be some major consequences on campus for that incident....

[GoMuskies]

Who HASN'T lost a testicle in a hazing incident?!? That's why we start with two, right?

[Titanxman04]

Who HASN'T lost a testicle in a hazing incident?!? That's why we start with two, right?

I personally don't want to meet a guy who has two. If you have two, you aren't a real man.

On a side note, BBC has three.

[boozehound]

Proud of beating Miami or proud that a kid lost his testicle due to the Gobblers (yes, that's the nickname for the fraternity and I have no idea why) hazing him at your alma mater? There are going to be some major consequences on campus for that incident....

I can guess...

[blobfan]

Dream:

Battle for Ohio Tournament.

Xavier
Cincinnati
Ohio State
Dayton
Miami
Toledo
Youngstown
Wright St
Akron

Plenty of teams to make an 8-team tourney, although some are from the same conference. Get a chance to play in-state rivals without it being a home & home.

It'll never happen, but it would be a fun event.
My mind went to this idea as well but would it be worth giving up the usual early season tournament?

I personally don't want to meet a guy who has two. If you have two, you aren't a real man.

On a side note, BBC has three.

Once could lose one and still have two.

[GoMuskies]

My mind went to this idea as well but would it be worth giving up the usual early season tournament?


No, our next several year exempt tournament schedule is fabulous (Maui, Nike Tournament, Charleston, DirecTV/Wooden Classic, Old Spice Classic). No need to give that up to stay in cold Ohio and play that motley cast of characters.

[muskiefan82]

Dream:

Battle for Ohio Tournament.

Xavier
Cincinnati
Ohio State
Dayton
Miami
Toledo
Youngstown
Wright St
Akron

Plenty of teams to make an 8-team tourney, although some are from the same conference. Get a chance to play in-state rivals without it being a home & home.

It'll never happen, but it would be a fun event.

I still think we need a Tri-State Championship. UK, UL, IU, Purdue, ND, XU, UC, OSU. Every other year.
Now THAT is an exempt event right there. The fourth game could be at each home site against another team from the Tri-state - like this:

Game 1 for UK: Ball St.
Game 1 for UL: Dayton
Game 1 for IU: Cleveland St.
Game 1 for Purdue: Kent St.
Game 1 for ND: Miami(OH)
Game 1 for XU: Indiana St.
Game 1 for UC: Valparaiso
Game 1 for OSU: Western Kentucky

Then you seed the 8 team tournament based on RPI at the time of the event and play it at different arenas each year. Rupp, KFC Yum!, Cintas, etc.

[BandAid]

My mind went to this idea as well but would it be worth giving up the usual early season tournament?

Maybe once every four years or so...

What would be even better would be to create a Oh vs. Ky sort of thing. Ohio champ against Kentucky champ for the title. Heavy. Weights.

[X-band '01]

No, our next several year exempt tournament schedule is fabulous (Maui, Nike Tournament, Charleston, DirecTV/Wooden Classic, Old Spice Classic). No need to give that up to stay in cold Ohio and play NC State, NC Central, Campbell and Appalachian State.

That's what you really meant to say Go.