Trevon Bluiett - Commit - XAVIER (OFFICIAL)

[BMoreX]

Brian Snow ‏@BSnowScout 55m

Trevon Bluiett offically has re-opened his recruitment

N.D. Kendrick ‏@NDkendrick 47m

With Blue it is pretty easy. Butler or Xavier. All others can save on those minutes.

[RealDeal]

I guess he's a 2014 kid? The snow article on scout doesn't say, which is actually not surprising.

[XUFan09]

I guess he's a 2014 kid? The snow article on scout doesn't say, which is actually not surprising.

Yup. Currently Xavier is over-signed by one for 2014, but that shouldn't be a problem if you assume Semaj is leaving for the NBA. If the staff gets Bluiett, though, someone will have to trasnfer to make room.

[GoMuskies]

Yup. Currently Xavier is over-signed by one for 2014, but that shouldn't be a problem if you assume Semaj is leaving for the NBA. If the staff gets Bluiett, though, someone will have to trasnfer to make room.

I have no doubt it would work itself out.

[xufan02]

There have been rumblings for awhile on this. Xavier is very much in this and are going all in. It might come down to playing time, but if Bluiett wants to win Xavier is the pick. Our talent will be heads and shoulders over butler when he arrives. Also, our coach has coached an actual game. Furthermore, Xavier was in his top three before he chose UCLA, Butler was not.

[XUFan09]

I have no doubt it would work itself out.

It certainly would. I was just laying out the situation (and pre-empting any "So where are we on scholarships now?")

[SixFig]

I like the idea of a "fab five" class, one for each position

PG Sumner
SG Macura
SF Blueitt
PF London
C O'Mara

Don't want to see anyone lose their scholarship either...

[XUFan09]

On the Scout board, someone also pointed out the possibility of one of the 2014 guys re-classifying to 2015 and developing further in a prep year. That would also open up a scholarship for next year.

[mistabeecee41]

On the Scout board, someone also pointed out the possibility of one of the 2014 guys re-classifying to 2015 and developing further in a prep year. That would also open up a scholarship for next year.

Much easier said then done. Presenting that idea to a kid who isn't interested in that could backfire big time.

[ammtd34]

On the Scout board, someone also pointed out the possibility of one of the 2014 guys re-classifying to 2015 and developing further in a prep year. That would also open up a scholarship for next year.

I think it was mentioned as a possibility but not something that had been discussed. If Trevon came, this class would be absolutely absurd.

[cheeba]

I see that Blueitt follows IU's Crean and a few of their players. No to Crean, come to X

[XUFan09]

Much easier said then done. Presenting that idea to a kid who isn't interested in that could backfire big time.

I was only thinking if the kid wanted to for his career, not because the staff compelled him to do so.

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[LA Muskie]

I was only thinking if the kid wanted to for his career, not because the staff compelled him to do so.
It's always a possibility, but that often opens their recruitment back up. I think a more likely scenario if Bluett commits is that one or more players will decide that they have been recruited over and will decide to transfer. Admittedly there is only one scholarship player in the current FR and SO classes (the only classes for which that would make any sense) who would fit that bill. And I'm not planning to give up on him as long as he's in an XU uni...

[ammtd34]

Unless Martin doesn't want to take grad classes.

[LA Muskie]

Unless Martin doesn't want to take grad classes.
Good point. I forgot that he had to sit out his 1st year.

[danaandvictory]

To me, that's the most logical resolution if XU adds a fifth player to the 2014 class.

[Milhouse]

You also have to wonder. If Mack gets Bluiett. That's a LOADED class. Does he try and convince Semaj to stay and increase his stock?

So many possibilities.

Can't even fathom how much this can do for the program right now.

[Titanxman04]

You also have to wonder. If Mack gets Bluiett. That's a LOADED class. Does he try and convince Semaj to stay and increase his stock?

So many possibilities.

Can't even fathom how much this can do for the program right now.

It depends. If X gets close to a Final Four, you'd have to think the "finish what you started" talk comes from Mack to Semaj. And then, of course, talk up the class coming in and what could happen with his leadership and talent. Tough to tell a kid to put off millions, but then again, it would be a remarkable team.

[mistabeecee41]

It depends. If X gets close to a Final Four, you'd have to think the "finish what you started" talk comes from Mack to Semaj. And then, of course, talk up the class coming in and what could happen with his leadership and talent. Tough to tell a kid to put off millions, but then again, it would be a remarkable team.

Then you also have to take into account that would require 2 people other than Semaj to transfer out.

[Milhouse]

If X makes it to the second weekend of the tournament Maj is GONE for sure.

[XUFan09]

If X makes it to the second weekend of the tournament Maj is GONE for sure.

Yup. You can practically guarantee his being drafted in the lottery at that point.

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[X-man]

Next year's roster, as it stands, has three seniors (Davis, Martin, and Stainbrook). three juniors (Abell, Farr, and Christon), four sophomores (Davis, Randolph, Reynolds, and Richards), and four freshmen (London, Macura, O'Mara, and Sumner). That is one over the limit, but Martin will graduate after this season so that could be a solution assuming Christon stays for his junior year. Obviously if Christon leaves after this season, as many project, that would also be a solution. Should Xavier add another recruit, both "solutions" must happen unless another player decides to leave the program.

[XUFan09]

Remember that it doesn't have to be Martin. Another player could transfer out.

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[Titanxman04]

Remember that it doesn't have to be Martin. Another player could transfer out.

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Which happens nearly every year.

[LA Muskie]

Word on the street is that about the only two things that could possibly keep Semaj from entering the draft next year are (i) an injury; or (ii) a really bad year statistically. I don't think any of us want either of those, so we should just plan to enjoy Semaj while we have him.

[kyxu]

Word on the street is that about the only two things that could possibly keep Semaj from entering the draft next year are (i) an injury; or (ii) a really bad year statistically. I don't think any of us want either of those, so we should just plan to enjoy Semaj while we have him.

This.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

This.

Yes, if he has a good year statistically and doesn't get hurt he will get picked top 13 in the draft. In this year's draft class, that is impressive. Blueitt didn't decommit without some coach recruiting him while he was committed to UCLA. I wouldn't put that past Crean at all or K at Duke especially since both negative recruit.

Butler would be kind of a surprise with an unknown commodity at coach but in the college basketball world you really can never know.

[Milhouse]

Those of you that are counting on Semaj for a junior year are going to be extremely disappointed come April. Xavier has not had someone with this much pro potential before. D West could've left after his junior year yes, but we haven't had anyone good to go after 2 years (remember J Craw was 3 years in college when he left...also the NCAA tournament really propelled him into 1st round).

LA Muskie is on the ball...I don't see him having a bad year statistically so god forbid injury would be the only thing keeping him out of the draft.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

FYI, hearing from an AAU friend that Alford is recruiting Justice Winslow from the same class. I wonder if Winslow will commit soon which is triggering Blueitt's decision here.

[Cheesehead]

This would be a nice problem to have.

[Juice]

FYI, hearing from an AAU friend that Alford is recruiting Justice Winslow from the same class. I wonder if Winslow will commit soon which is triggering Blueitt's decision here.

Granted they both play the SF/wing position, but UCLA has 0 verbals for the 2014 class now that Blueitt decommitted.

[bobbiemcgee]

I would take him at his word.......too far away from Mom and Pop. Park Tudor to mass hysteria @ UCLA may be too much for the kid.

[Titanxman04]

I know ESPN is a joke, but here's what ESPN had to say:

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/story/_/id/9768811/top-50-recruit-trevon-bluiett-decommits-ucla

[GoMuskies]

When did Goofball Goodman move to ESPN?

[BBC 08]

A few months ago. His stuff is mainly on Insider now. I think he made the move so he could be on TV more.

[ammtd34]

I wouldn't pay attention to the schools listed. He just took the "biggest" schools on his list.

[xuphan]

I wouldn't pay attention to the schools listed. He just took the "biggest" schools on his list.

Jerry Meyer from 247sports is predicting Blueitt to Xavier.

[gladdenguy]

Yes, if he has a good year statistically and doesn't get hurt he will get picked top 13 in the draft. In this year's draft class, that is impressive. Blueitt didn't decommit without some coach recruiting him while he was committed to UCLA. I wouldn't put that past Crean at all or K at Duke especially since both negative recruit.

Butler would be kind of a surprise with an unknown commodity at coach but in the college basketball world you really can never know.

Indiana is not even involved. Butler, Xavier and Purdue watched him today.

[GoMuskies]

DC Muskie knows what to do next.

[xudash]

Indiana is not even involved. Butler, Xavier and Purdue watched him today.

Yes, a visit to the Peeg's board suggests that he isn't on IU's radar screen.

[DC Muskie]

DC Muskie knows what to do next.

Firing up the car for a little road trip.

[bobbiemcgee]

Bring the Marquis.

[nuts4xu]

Bring the Marquis.

And the dead hookers....

[sUCk]

Blueitt to X is all but a locked up deal. He will make his intentions known within the next 7 to 10 days

[JTG]

Blueitt to X is all but a locked up deal. He will make his intentions known within the next 7 to 10 days

And you know this how ? Hope you're right though.

[waggy]

Things are either locked or they are not locked.

[anXUfan]

yep
Things are either locked or they are not locked.

[XUFan09]

Blueitt to X is all but a locked up deal. He will make his intentions known within the next 7 to 10 days

I feel good about Xavier's position with Bluiett, but I'm not confident about anything that won't be public for 7 to 10 days. A lot can happen in that time, especially since he's dealing with a flurry of re-recruitment after the decommitment.

[xufan02]

The staff has done a great job thus far constructing our 2014 class, Bluiett would be the proverbial icing on the cake. We have a real shot in this one and most think we lead. Its not over until it over, but it's something to get excited about. It would be a top 10 class nationally, and give us a great foundation going into the Big East.

[Strange Brew]

So jacked about this class already. Throw in Bluiett and wow is it going to be a fun ride.

[MADXSTER]

What's amazing is that Xavier would have 5 top 150 recruits, one at each postion.

[bobbiemcgee]

The staff has done a great job thus far constructing our 2014 class, Bluiett would be the proverbial icing on the cake. We have a real shot in this one and most think we lead. Its not over until it over, but it's something to get excited about. It would be a top 10 class nationally, and give us a great foundation going into the Big East.

We already have Top 10, so maybe top 5:

http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/classrankings/_/class/2014/date/20131002

[paulxu]

We'll be shuffled down when the big boys commit (13 of top 25 currently undecided)

But this is a great class so far. Blueitt would icing for sure.

[XUFan09]

As the class currently stands, we'll get pushed out of the top 10 as high-end recruits commit. If we land Bluett, though, we'll probably still be there when all is said and done.

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[RealDeal]

Where are the Chris Mack sucks guys? Let's hear from that faction.

[SM#24]

Maybe they're all converted and there's none left.

[xudash]

Purdue board claims Xavier: http://purdue.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=52&tid=192648006&mid=192648006&sid=892&style=2

[GoMuskies]

Some of the Purdue fans on that thread need to know their role. Purdue is no Xavier.

[Juice]

Purdue board claims Xavier: http://purdue.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=52&tid=192648006&mid=192648006&sid=892&style=2

This is what I think of/hear when I read that message board:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbIR51_J_qY

[nkymuskie]

From everything I'm hearing Xavier is the leader at the moment. Things could change, but it's looking good for us.

Also ESPN has no idea what's going on in that article. It's pretty much Xavier and Butler fighting this one. Goodman used to be one of my favorite follows on twitter. Now he's just another puppet over there at the worldwide leader.

[Juice]

From everything I'm hearing Xavier is the leader at the moment. Things could change, but it's looking good for us.

Also ESPN has no idea what's going on in that article. It's pretty much Xavier and Butler fighting this one. Goodman used to be one of my favorite follows on twitter. Now he's just another puppet over there at the worldwide leader.

What I also don't understand about his write up is that he tweeted about how Xavier was going to be heavily involved and then didn't include X in the article.


Jeff Goodman ‏@GoodmanESPN 3 Oct
Trevon Blueitt decommits from UCLA. Not good news for Steve Alford and the Bruins. Look for Xavier to be heavily involved.

What changed in Goodman's mind from his tweet on Oct. 3 and his article on Oct. 4?

[Dblue]

What changed in Goodman's mind from his tweet on Oct. 3 and his article on Oct. 4?[/QUOTE]

Articles are reviewed by an editor...I doubt that is the case with tweets.

This is why I always take what hear from ESPN with a grain of salt.

[kyxu]

When it comes to recruiting, ESPN is absolutely the worst place to look for news.

[Masterofreality]

When it comes to recruiting, ESPN is absolutely the worst place to look for news.

When it comes to Xavier and the Big East. The four letter network will only give cursory coverage...until they are forced not to.

Understand what you'll read.

[RoadWarrior]

Where are the Chris Mack sucks guys? Let's hear from that faction.
Where's Kkincaid and his Administration Conspiracy?

[XUFan09]

Where's Kkincaid and his Administration Conspiracy?

I still remember when he blasted me on the Scout board last off-season, calling me a big homer for giving Travis Taylor a minority chance of having a good season (I was pretty conservative about it, not even figuratively willing to bet on it with anything close to straight-up odds). I wish he had been around on the board during that season to eat serious crow for saying "I can absolutely guarantee that Travis Taylor will make no contributions this coming season."

[Blue Blobs Bro]

http://www.umhoops.com/2013/07/31/michigan-makes-the-cut-for-4-star-forward-trevon-bluiett/ sounds like him and michigan have been in it for a while now, and that coaches thing concerns me too.

[Musketeer_15]

http://www.umhoops.com/2013/07/31/michigan-makes-the-cut-for-4-star-forward-trevon-bluiett/ sounds like him and michigan have been in it for a while now, and that coaches thing concerns me too.
I think Michigan is out of the picture for him now. They have two SF commits, one just came today and the other is a top 25 per Scout. One thing that I see is very interesting is Bluiett and Macura both follow each other on Twitter. I may be looking into in a little bit too much but then again the two live nowhere near each other... Hopefully something comes out soon!

[Blue Blobs Bro]

very happy to hear that, little things like that make me more confident about this.

[xudash]

http://www.umhoops.com/2013/07/31/michigan-makes-the-cut-for-4-star-forward-trevon-bluiett/ sounds like him and michigan have been in it for a while now, and that coaches thing concerns me too.

Judging from the Michigan board, they have a lot of recruiting "traffic" they're focused on now; it's not as though they appear to have a burning need for him presently.

At least the fans seem to be saying "we'll talk to him IF HE CALLS US."

By process of elimination - in an effort to make myself feel better - and based on Trevon's desire to stay closer to home, while also preferring two, smaller schools in his overall mix, my process of elimination towards him picking Xavier looks like:

1. UCLA - decommit.

2. Arizona - too far away, as well.

3. IU - focused elsewhere.

4. Butler - toast, due to Steven's departure.

5. Purdue - even the Purdue fans believe Painter cannot close this deal.

6. Michigan - see IU (I hope).

Welcome to Xavier Trevon!

[GoMuskies]

Nice process 'dash. Except for Purdue. For them, I would change it to "LOL, Purdue? No. Just no."

[Masterofreality]

Where's Kkincaid and his Administration Conspiracy?

HA!!!!!

[Pluto]

If it is true that it is down to X and butler on Blueitt butler just got a commitment from small forward Kelan Martin. Seems promising for X.

[xudash]

If it is true that it is down to X and butler on Blueitt butler just got a commitment from small forward Kelan Martin. Seems promising for X.

A quick peek at the dipsticks' board suggests - well a couple of them - believe Martin committing helps their chances, because those two played together this past summer, and because Blueitt would think that Butler ticked up a notch in talent.

[LA Muskie]

A quick peek at the dipsticks' board suggests - well a couple of them - believe Martin committing helps their chances, because those two played together this past summer, and because Blueitt would think that Butler ticked up a notch in talent.
A player like Blueitt isn't worried about his playing time. He is confident he'll get his. So he'll be looking for the best situation for him. It very well could be that he thinks Butler is stronger now with Martin and that they would team up well together. It doesn't necessarily mean that's the case, but it's also not out of the realm of possibility. I still think he'll be a Muskie though...

[xavierj]

Kelan Martin is a 3 star recruit ranked 143 in his class. I am not sure how he makes a huge jump in their talent level. I would say he has zero impact on blueitt.

[GIMMFD]

If we get Blueitt, I completely believe Chris Mack has joined the Illuminati to create a super power.

[xudash]

A player like Blueitt isn't worried about his playing time. He is confident he'll get his. So he'll be looking for the best situation for him. It very well could be that he thinks Butler is stronger now with Martin and that they would team up well together. It doesn't necessarily mean that's the case, but it's also not out of the realm of possibility. I still think he'll be a Muskie though...

I certainly hope you're right. It feels like a break through moment to me for some reason: Xavier answering the bell as it moves up by moving into the Big East.

[Muskeagle]

If we get Blueitt, I completely believe Chris Mack has joined the Illuminati to create a super power.

I'm OK with that....let's just hope he hasn't gone all Nick Nolte in Blue Chips and started to give away cars, houses and tractors!

[ballyhoohoo]

I'm OK with that....let's just hope he hasn't gone all Nick Nolte in Blue Chips and started to give away cars, houses and tractors!

We're getting Neon Boudreux?

[Titanxman04]

We're getting Neon Boudreux?

Love that kid. He's a beast. Good get for Mack and Co.

[ballyhoohoo]

Love that kid. He's a beast. Good get for Mack and Co.

Could you imagine how good he'd be if he had Ricky Roe's jumper.

[Titanxman04]

Could you imagine how good he'd be if he had Ricky Roe's jumper.

Unstoppable. The inside-out game would be impossible to stop.

[nuts4xu]

If we are now recruiting mythical high school kids, I want someone to pay a visit to Jesus Shuttlesworth.

I would love to hear the Cintas Center chanting "Jesus, Jesus, Jesus...."!

[waggy]

Oh that would be glorious!

[Titanxman04]

If we are now recruiting mythical high school kids

THESE KIDS AREN'T REAL?!?

Way to waste all this time, guys, making a whole thread about some fictional recruit. Nice.

[ballyhoohoo]

If we are now recruiting mythical high school kids, I want someone to pay a visit to Jesus Shuttlesworth.

I would love to hear the Cintas Center chanting "Jesus, Jesus, Jesus...."!

I'm fairly certain Jesus wouldn't go to Butler.

[PMI]

I'm fairly certain Jesus wouldn't go to Butler.

I don't know. He definitely showed he was a Butler fan in the 2011 tournament.

[floorsweeper]

Yes! Someone is here to argue about which program has more "class". The ultimate white person argument.

Wow, no need bringing race into this. Your reply pretty much sums up the entire situation.

[floorsweeper]

It's been a while since we've had our last fly-by like this.

Hello and goodbye.

Really, I can get kicked off the message board for pointing out easily verifiable facts. Yet Juice makes a racist blast and is viewed as valued contributor. Only the best for the Musketeers..................

[ballyhoohoo]

I hear this guy is available. http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/el_den/teenwolf-fullview.jpg

[Titanxman04]

I hear this guy is available. http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/el_den/teenwolf-fullview.jpg

I'm a booster now, and I was tweeting with him. Sorry for the NCAA violations guys.

[PMI]

I kind of miss the days where we had fans from opposing teams visit here who could actually talk smack. There use to be some pretty good little back and forth action. Now we resort to a kid named floor sweeper who won't even admit he's a Butler fan? Guess I'll have to wait.

[Titanxman04]

OK, I get it. This is all a set up just to show me how annoying all my posting can be, right? Message received.

Sorry buddy. PMI will buy you a beer at the next game.

[PMI]

Sorry buddy. PMI will buy you a beer at the next game.

I won't be traveling to Wichita for any games this year, but if Go is at any games I'm at, I'll happily buy him one of those fruity Cowboy Cocktails they drink down there in Jurry World after their "moral victories."

[GoMuskies]

You probably won't be coming to Omaha, either, huh? You could have met my six year old who needs some indoctrination. I fear he's becoming a touch TOO friendly with the Wheat Shocker faithful.

I'll likely be in the house for Wake and the Red Storm over the holidays. I'll have a Mike's Hard Cranberry. Too bad they don't serve Zima.

[Muskeagle]

Well, shit...this is disappointing! I totally thought that news had broken on Blueitt when there were 3 or 4 new pages of banter. I was hoping to find he had committed. Then I find out it is some Muddy-esque pissing match with someone taking the high road and trying to say we are a bunch of thugs. Entitled to his opinion, Floorsweeper is, but hopefully the door hits him squarely on his ass on the way out.

Now.....hopefully some news soon!

[94GRAD]

You probably won't be coming to Omaha, either, huh? You could have met my six year old who needs some indoctrination. I fear he's becoming a touch TOO friendly with the Wheat Shocker faithful.

I'll likely be in the house for Wake and the Red Storm over the holidays. I'll have a Mike's Hard Cranberry. Too bad they don't serve Zima.

I can pull some strings if needed.

[GoMuskies]

If anything, I'm an over-critical thinker to a fault, refusing to get sucked into the brainwashes that far too many around here are victims of.

I'm not sure what any of this has to do with me trying to force my son to become a Xavier fan while living in Wichita, KS, but I look forward to having some girly drinks with you in Omaha.

[PMI]

I'm not sure what any of this has to do with me trying to force my son to become a Xavier fan while living in Wichita, KS, but I look forward to having some girly drinks with you in Omaha.

First round's on me. If we're at the same game at Cintas we'll make it a Herschel Special. A few of those should lead to some REALLY interesting Skins/Boys conversations.

As for our BU janitor friend, I suppose it was either the Chrishawn Hopkins comments that struck a nerve, or he's already allotted his after school personal internet time jerking off to Foundation for a Better Life commercials.

[bobbiemcgee]

He wants his parents to be able to see "80-90% of his games." Can't imagine them popping up to Ann Arbor or East Lansing after work.

[PMI]

I would think that Blueitt would be able to get good minutes right away at Xavier, but he'd be potentially fighting for minutes with the group of Myles, Randolph, Abell, Martin, Richards, Macura and Sumner. Things could change (transfers, etc.) and there's a couple of those guys who I think he's clearly ahead of, but that's a fairly crowded jam at the 2-3. I think he's good enough that he'd immediately be right in the mix, but if the idea of lots of playing time right away is important to him, that could be a concern. That said, I think it's a matter of when, not if, he commits to Xavier. Just my hunch.

[Cheesehead]

Let's be honest, his best bet might be Butler, as Xavier has weigh more talent coming in than Butler.

[muskienick]

I'm no Bulldog lover, but maybe we should just shut up until Blueitt makes up his mind. Then we can rub it in.

Excellent observation, JTG!

[ammtd34]

Let's be honest, his best bet might be Butler, as Xavier has weigh more talent coming in than Butler.

From what I understand, he's not concerned with that. Recruits this big think, usually rightly so, that they are better than whoever is already there.

[paulxu]

as Xavier has weigh more talent

Well played...I think.

[floorsweeper]

MSU offered today.

Xavier and Butler to attend open gym tomorrow...................

[Titanxman04]

MSU offered today.

Xavier and Butler to attend open gym tomorrow...................

Thanks for the update............................................ ...............................................

[XU 87]

Since Butler to my knowledge hasn't gotten a 4 star recruit in the last 5 years, and probaly won't in this case, maybe he's trying to live vicariously through us.

[DC Muskie]

any idea of when this kid will make a decision? Has he given a timeline?

[XUFan09]

ESPN is a terrible place for recruiting evaluations, relative to the other sites. Everyone knows that.

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[nkymuskie]

ESPN is a terrible place for recruiting evaluations, relative to the other sites. Everyone knows that.

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This. ESPN is not very good at keeping up to date with their recruiting. Scout is leaps and bounds better than the competition right now.

[Musketeer_15]

Also, lets get back to talking about Trevon Bluiett. I'm sure he'd rather have us talking about him than getting in fights with a watermelon farmer and the technological illiterate :secretservice:

[Muskie]

Welcome back to the thread. I've taken the liberty of moving all the garbage (and response to garbage) to the House of Smack. Let's resume with the Blueitt speculation.

[Titanxman04]

Welcome back to the thread. I've taken the liberty of moving all the garbage (and response to garbage) to the House of Smack. Let's resume with the Blueitt speculation.

I know I contributed to said garbage, but thanks.

[ballyhoohoo]

The information on fictional recruits is not garbage!

[Titanxman04]

The information on fictional recruits is not garbage!

Shame on you for assuming that I thought that was the garbage. Big Neal was going to be a huge addition to this program.

[mistabeecee41]

Pastner was there today and Trevon's father is reporting he will take an Official to Memphis this weekend.

Maybe the 'either X or Butler' talk was a bit premature.

[xavierj]

Pastner was there today and Trevon's father is reporting he will take an Official to Memphis this weekend.

Maybe the 'either X or Butler' talk was a bit premature.

Memphis has a lot of money to offer. That is scary. Odd how they have not been involved then swoop in for a visit to his school then he goes to Memphis for a visit a day later.

[xudash]

Memphis has a lot of money to offer. That is scary. Odd how they have not been involved then swoop in for a visit to his school then he goes to Memphis for a visit a day later.

Someone or some of you around here have taken the rather perfect position of not getting all wrapped up in the recruiting process for high school athletes; something to the effect of not worrying about stuff like this, or not caring about stuff like this until you see a player in a Xavier uniform. I am finally beginning to see where that is very good advice.

More to the point, I can understand the young man wanting to evaluate all of his options. At this point in his life, this is a major life decision for him. It may be frustrating for us as fans, but it is his decision.

Great for us, hopefully, if he chooses to attend Xavier. It has to feel right and work out for both parties, otherwise it will have its issues.

If it is meant to work out....

[pimpinthebox]

Google tells me that the drive time from Indy to Memphis is 6 hours and 55 minutes in light traffic. I hope there's a 6 car pile up on their way down there so it takes more like 9 hours (with no injuries of course). Maybe that will help deter him a bit. That and I hope he and his family refuse any alleged illegal financial aid. God I hate that dirty whore Pastner.

[casualfan]

Google tells me that the drive time from Indy to Memphis is 6 hours and 55 minutes in light traffic. I hope there's a 6 car pile up on their way down there so it takes more like 9 hours (with no injuries of course). Maybe that will help deter him a bit. That and I hope he and his family refuse any alleged illegal financial aid. God I hate that dirty whore Pastner.

If it's an official visit he'll fly.

[Blue Blobs Bro]

predicted for x by many sites, was looking real good until memphis and the official visit, but i dont even know what to think anymore.

[Milhouse]

I notice none of you guys will refute my insinuation.

What's the matter? Feeling ignored?

[Charlesbt4]

Someone should tell Blueitt that while Pastner can recruit highly touted players, he can neither develop them nor get them to win. If you want to washout, go play for Memphis.

[casualfan]

Someone should tell Blueitt that while Pastner can recruit highly touted players, he can neither develop them nor get them to win. If you want to washout, go play for Memphis.

um, wouldn't us losing to them last year submarine some of that point?

[Charlesbt4]

um, wouldn't us losing to them last year submarine some of that point?

No. In fact, they have nothing to do with one another. Go look at the rankings for the recruits that have committed to Memphis since Pastner became head coach. Then, look at individually where those players have ended up (e.g. NBA or otherwise). Finally, look at the on-court successes and failures of his teams (e.g. tournament wins and losses). Needless to say, the latter two do not align with the first.

Given the few interactions we have had on this board over the past few days, you may be the damned dumbest person I've ever encountered.

[kyxu]

um, wouldn't us losing to them last year submarine some of that point?

We beat a ranked Memphis team last year. Watching Memphis play for most of the season, they would have been the fourth or fifth best team in the A-10.

[casualfan]

We beat a ranked Memphis team last year. Watching Memphis play for most of the season, they would have been the fourth or fifth best team in the A-10.

I'm sorry, you are correct. Two years ago is when we lost. My bad.

Looks like my efforts to wipe all of last season from my memory may be finally paying off!

[PMI]

um, wouldn't us losing to them last year submarine some of that point?

How do figure that? One of our worst teams in forever wins the game against their "Top 10" team and you draw the conclusion that Pastner does not fail to develop highly touted players? A loss against a mediocre team and Pastner all of a sudden can coach? Truth is, he is one of the worst coaches in the business. He's Jeff Bzdelik bad, but can recruit (read: cheat) and is younger. Josh Pastner was not born the way you and I were. He is a lump of bacteria that was grown on the ass of John Calipari, and now he's the head coach of Memphis. He is a despicable person and almost as bad a basketball coach.

[Titanxman04]

How do figure that? One of our worst teams in forever wins the game against their "Top 10" team and you draw the conclusion that Pastner does not fail to develop highly touted players? A loss against a mediocre team and Pastner all of a sudden can coach? Truth is, he is one of the worst coaches in the business. He's Jeff Bzdelik bad, but can recruit (read: cheat) and is younger. Josh Pastner was not born the way you and I were. He is a lump of bacteria that was grown on the ass of John Calipari, and now he's the head coach of Memphis. He is a despicable person and almost as bad a basketball coach.

You are who your mentor is. Pastnor learned from Cal. Cal is one of the slimiest and dirtiest coaches on the planet. The guy just screams violations, and Pastnor is no different. The guy is simply not a good coach, and a worse person.

[xavierj]

I'm sorry, you are correct. Two years ago is when we lost. My bad.

Looks like my efforts to wipe all of last season from my memory may be finally paying off!

Yeah and that was the year when the wheels fell off for a while and Xavier owned that game on the road for 35 minutes but couldnt finish.

[casualfan]

How do figure that? One of our worst teams in forever wins the game against their "Top 10" team and you draw the conclusion that Pastner does not fail to develop highly touted players? A loss against a mediocre team and Pastner all of a sudden can coach? Truth is, he is one of the worst coaches in the business. He's Jeff Bzdelik bad, but can recruit (read: cheat) and is younger. Josh Pastner was not born the way you and I were. He is a lump of bacteria that was grown on the ass of John Calipari, and now he's the head coach of Memphis. He is a despicable person and almost as bad a basketball coach.

All I was saying is that it might be tough for school A to sell that school B's coach can't coach when school A has a loss on the docket to school B in the last two years (as I mentioned in a previous post i was mixing up last year and the year before).

My point is that even though I agree with most everything you're saying about Pastner it might be tough for Mack to sell that angle when he has split with him the past two years.

With the relationship the staff obviously has built with Bluiett over time I just don't think its necessary to bring that stuff up.

[PMI]

All I was saying is that it might be tough for school A to sell that school B's coach can't coach when school A has a loss on the docket to school B in the last two years (as I mentioned in a previous post i was mixing up last year and the year before).

My point is that even though I agree with most everything you're saying about Pastner it might be tough for Mack to sell that angle when he has split with him the past two years.

With the relationship the staff obviously has built with Bluiett over time I just don't think its necessary to bring that stuff up.

I'm not doubting it might be a tough sell. Pastner is clearly a good salesman, as he gets kids and parents to believe he is worthy of coaching them. Any player stupid enough to play for that guy deserves exactly what they get, which is a major stunt in their development.

[ammtd34]

I don't think we have to do much work. The people getting in late (Memphis, MSU) seem to be the ones with the ground to make up. X and Butler have done lots of work already. Bluiett just has to make his decision.

[Muskie]

I'm not terribly concerned. He's been to X and Butler several times. He's never been to Memphis or MSU. Let him go be a high school kid looking at colleges. If X is right for him, he'll know.

[nuts4xu]

All I was saying is that it might be tough for school A to sell that school B's coach can't coach when school A has a loss on the docket to school B in the last two years (as I mentioned in a previous post i was mixing up last year and the year before).

But your point is invalid and we don't have to sell around a loss last season. We beat Memphis last year. This is a "what have you done for me lately" world we live in, and the most recent competition between Xavier and Memphis on the court, ended in our favor. Looking at the big picture, we have also done quite well as a program since 2009 when Pastner took over for Calipari. While Pastner has won just one NCAA game in his time as coach at Memphis, we have been to 2 sweet sixteens since Pastner took over.

I think it is safe to say we can sell the success of a Chris Mack program much easier than Memphis can sell Pastner's track record. While Memphis has played for an NC recently, it was before Pastner, it was tainted because of Calipari, and the success of our program speaks for itself. Basketball recruits understand that.

[kyxu]

All I was saying is that it might be tough for school A to sell that school B's coach can't coach when school A has a loss on the docket to school B in the last two years (as I mentioned in a previous post i was mixing up last year and the year before).

My point is that even though I agree with most everything you're saying about Pastner it might be tough for Mack to sell that angle when he has split with him the past two years.

Don't forget that despite Memphis's bevy of talent, Pastner didn't win his first NCAA Tournament until this past season. And they got absolutely embarrassed by Michigan State the next game in the round of 32.

[paulxu]

Josh Pastner was not born the way you and I were. He is a lump of bacteria that was grown on the ass of John Calipari, and now he's the head coach of Memphis. He is a despicable person and almost as bad a basketball coach.

Nice takedown. I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess you don't think too much of this Pastner fellow.

[PMI]

Memphis is a seven hour drive from Indianapolis. I am starting to think this kid is a bit of a head case.

"Cal is one of the slimiest and dirtiest coaches on the planet."

Do we really want to discuss some of Sean Miller's recruits ?

You mean the batch of recruits he had in his 5 years at X, all of whom graduated and won lots of games? Sure, let's talk about them. Or we can talk about the Rhodes Scholars Butler recruits, like Chrishawn Hopkins. I mean, seriously kid, Xavier recruits the same guys Butler does! They just, you know, land them.


Nice takedown. I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess you don't think too much of this Pastner fellow.

Not a hater, I'm just stating the objective facts. Josh is, in fact, a bacteria-ridden clump of fungus that grew off the ass of John Calipari.

[Juice]

You are who your mentor is. Pastnor learned from Cal. Cal is one of the slimiest and dirtiest coaches on the planet. The guy just screams violations, and Pastnor is no different. The guy is simply not a good coach, and a worse person.

2002-2008 Assistant at Arizona
2008-2009 Assistant at Memphis

His mentor would probably be Lute, no?

[Muskie]

Can we please keep the conversation related to Blueitt's recruitment please. If someone(anyone) wants to talk about past recruits or coaches, start a new thread. Believe it or not, there are people who just want to know if Blueitt committed or not.

[nuts4xu]

Can we please keep the conversation related to Blueitt's recruitment please. If someone(anyone) wants to talk about past recruits or coaches, start a new thread. Believe it or not, there are people who just want to know if Blueitt committed or not.

Sure, but it would help if you gave floorsweeper another place to go for his information. No need for a troll to continue flaming the board.

[JTG]

I believe Blueitt is t park Tudor, which is a small private prep high school. I think X and Butler are either way more like Park Tudor, than Memphis. The under the table, slimey reputation of Memphis, is what concerns me, much more than the basketball program.

[More Cowbell]

He left UCLA so he could be at a school closer to him. I'm not sure Memphis is a great choice for school, but he gets 5 official visits and has only taken one. Why not take a paid vacation for the weekend?

[LA Muskie]

I believe Blueitt is t park Tudor, which is a small private prep high school. I think X and Butler are either way more like Park Tudor, than Memphis. The under the table, slimey reputation of Memphis, is what concerns me, much more than the basketball program.
I just can't see him going to Memphis. It doesn't add up. Why leave UCLA (which while in CA is coached by local hero Steve Alford) to go to Memphis? It's still inconvenient. It's still huge. I get wanting to stay closer to home and/or going to a smaller school. I don't get giving up a better school with a better reputation and a better coach for a big school in Memphis TN.

PS: I didn't realize until I read the ESPN puff piece on Brandon Miller earlier this week that he was a Steve Alford recruit back in his playing days. Assuming the change in decision truly is geography-related, I could see Alford giving a push toward Butler.

[ballyhoohoo]

I just can't see him going to Memphis. It doesn't add up. Why leave UCLA (which while in CA is coached by local hero Steve Alford) to go to Memphis? It's still inconvenient. It's still huge. I get wanting to stay closer to home and/or going to a smaller school. I don't get giving up a better school with a better reputation and a better coach for a big school in Memphis TN.

PS: I didn't realize until I read the ESPN puff piece on Brandon Miller earlier this week that he was a Steve Alford recruit back in his playing days. Assuming the change in decision truly is geography-related, I could see Alford giving a push toward Butler.

Once he heard LAMuskie doesn't go to UCLA games he pulled his verbal.

[bobbiemcgee]

He wants his parents to be able to see "80-90% of his games." Can't imagine them popping up to Ann Arbor or East Lansing after work.

Same argument for Memphis.

[HuskyMuskie]

Found this a little interesting:

Trevon Blueitt on ESPN: 87
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/124506/trevon-bluiett

Myles Davis on ESPN: 92
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/61234/myles-davis

James Farr on ESPN: 90 !!!
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/139094/james-farr



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[Milhouse]

ESPN is notoriously bad with recruiting info. There's a reason its free.

[More Cowbell]

ESPN changed their scale this year. A 90 is a lot harder to get.

[mistabeecee41]

ESPN is notoriously bad with recruiting info. There's a reason its free.

They've also re-done their ratings system over the past few years. Ratings are MUCH lower than they used to be, so Myles/Farr we're graded on a different scale than the new guys. None of our 2014 guys are rated higher than an 82.

92 and 90 for Davis/Farr would put them into the top 25 in 2014 - don't think either of them were top 100 recruits in their year.

[LA Muskie]

Once he heard LAMuskie doesn't go to UCLA games he pulled his verbal.
I do carry mad weight around here.

[dixiebullfrog]

How do figure that? One of our worst teams in forever wins the game against their "Top 10" team and you draw the conclusion that Pastner does not fail to develop highly touted players? A loss against a mediocre team and Pastner all of a sudden can coach? Truth is, he is one of the worst coaches in the business. He's Jeff Bzdelik bad, but can recruit (read: cheat) and is younger. Josh Pastner was not born the way you and I were. He is a lump of bacteria that was grown on the ass of John Calipari, and now he's the head coach of Memphis. He is a despicable person and almost as bad a basketball coach.

Well, PMS, you've got it wrong about Josh Pastner. Couldn't be further removed as a HC from Calipari's-type or his questionable tactics. Do you make this stuff up or just repeat factual stuff from the internet? Must be true, right? Josh got the big-time Memphis job when he was 31; first HC job, no staff, no secretary, etc. Cal took the recruiting class and the furniture. Second yr Josh came up with a Top 5 recruiting class and hasn't looked back since.

More victories in his first four yrs than any Memphis coach in history. Everyone knows the C-USA easy league excuse, can't beat Top 25 teams, NCAA losses, etc. Showed improvement in all areas last yr as we joined the new AAC and beat #25 St Mary's in the tourney before running into the MSU buzzsaw while finishing the year at 31-5. The 2013 recruiting class is Top 5 again, and for the 1st time, the Tigers have serious senior leadership. All agree; no excuses this year.

Pastner did such a terrible/great job that his contract was extended thru 2020 or so; got a $1,000,000 raise to $2.65M per yr with annual raises down the line. All of you are welcome to come over and visit the 247 Memphis Roar site anytime. As for Blueitt, we'll know more after his visit this weekend, but as y'all have it measured out, probably too far from home if he really wants to stay close.

And, yes, I joined this site just to correct your stupidity and ignorance. That's how wrong you were about Pastner; couldn't let it go unanswered. Why don't you get Coach Mack's opinion on the Memphis HC; I'm sure you've got connections, right?

[PM Thor]

Uhhh, if it's factual stuff from the internet it's actually facts. Congratulations on just completely undercutting your entire post yourself.

[BandAid]

This thread just seems to bring everybody out!

[PMI]

Well, PMS, you've got it wrong about Josh Pastner. Couldn't be further removed as a HC from Calipari's-type or his questionable tactics. Do you make this stuff up or just repeat factual stuff from the internet? Must be true, right? Josh got the big-time Memphis job when he was 31; first HC job, no staff, no secretary, etc. Cal took the recruiting class and the furniture. Second yr Josh came up with a Top 5 recruiting class and hasn't looked back since.

More victories in his first four yrs than any Memphis coach in history. Everyone knows the C-USA easy league excuse, can't beat Top 25 teams, NCAA losses, etc. Showed improvement in all areas last yr as we joined the new AAC and beat #25 St Mary's in the tourney before running into the MSU buzzsaw while finishing the year at 31-5. The 2013 recruiting class is Top 5 again, and for the 1st time, the Tigers have serious senior leadership. All agree; no excuses this year.

Pastner did such a terrible/great job that his contract was extended thru 2020 or so; got a $1,000,000 raise to $2.65M per yr with annual raises down the line. All of you are welcome to come over and visit the 247 Memphis Roar site anytime. As for Blueitt, we'll know more after his visit this weekend, but as y'all have it measured out, probably too far from home if he really wants to stay close.

And, yes, I joined this site just to correct your stupidity and ignorance. That's how wrong you were about Pastner; couldn't let it go unanswered. Why don't you get Coach Mack's opinion on the Memphis HC; I'm sure you've got connections, right?

PMS. Nice one! Look, I'd love to go on a rant right now and point out all of the ridiculousness in your post, but Muskie has asked that this thread not be de-railed. But since this is a thread on Blueitt, who's taking a visit to Memphis right now, I suppose it wouldn't be too off topic to discuss why he'd be a fool to go to Memphis, and we can do so by addressing your points, so everybody wins. Your points for Pastner being a good coach are his recruiting classes, the fact that he got a contract extension, and this notion that he "showed improvement" by beating the #25 team in the country from a small conference, which is better than his typical beating up of college basketball's cupcakes and losing to anyone who's half way legit. Incredibly weak stuff right there.

As I mentioned, I know he has good recruiting classes. That kind of plays into my point. He routinely gets guys who are highly ranked, and they routinely do not develop very well under his "tutelage," if you can call it that. The argument that he "showed improvement" by beating ST. MARY'S was more than just mildly entertaining. If that's the win he can hang his hat on after a few years on the job, things are even worse down there than I thought. He plays awful schedules and racks up wins against very bad teams. Then, his teams, which are over seeded come March, lose early. And finally, he makes a lot of money. That I won't argue. I have no say in how the University of Memphis decides to waste their money, nor do I have any interest in it. So, in essence, you've just unintentionally proven MY points, in trying to refute them. Your arguments were so weak and lacking in substance, that you just made my argument for me. Pastner, is, in fact, a terrible basketball coach. The fact that you hang your hat on him beating St. Mary's, you have to use his salary as a arguing point, and have to argue that gets good players, even though they can't get better in their time at Memphis, proves exactly what I've said all along. It doesn't prove it as much as the comedy that is actually watching that guy try to coach in game, or taking a look at their gauntlet of a schedule, and then their performances against real teams, but it helps prove nonetheless the fact that I argued. That child is a terrible basketball coach.

Therefore, Trevon Blueitt would be a fool to go to Memphis. I don't think he will because I don't think he's a fool, but if he is and he chooses Memphis, he'll be signing on for the chance to play in basketball purgatory, where he will not develop as a player, and he'll come in understanding more about the game than the little boy who's supposed to be running the ship there. He'll enjoy a free weekend at a college campus, and then come to his senses.

[X-band '01]

Let's not forget that Memphis is no longer in C-USA; that alone will constitute a step up in weight class for Memphis. Louisville, UConn, Temple and UC ain't exactly Tulane and Marshall.

[PMI]

Let's not forget that Memphis is no longer in C-USA; that alone will constitute a step up in weight class for Memphis. Louisville, UConn, Temple and UC ain't exactly Tulane and Marshall.

All the more reason Pastner will be exposed for the fraudulent loser he is.

[SpectorJersey]

All the more reason Pastner will be exposed for the fraudulent loser he is.

Did Josh piss in your Cheerios or something?

[GoMuskies]

Let's not forget that Memphis is no longer in C-USA; that alone will constitute a step up in weight class for Memphis. Louisville, UConn, Temple and UC ain't exactly Tulane and Marshall.

Louisville will be in the league exactly one year. And Tulane replaces them.

[Masterofreality]

Pastner.....is.....a.....horrible.....basketball.. ....coach.

Period.

[paulxu]

Louisville will be in the league exactly one year. And Tulane replaces them.

I can hear you laughing all the way down here in South Carolina.

[xudash]

I can't see losing him to Memphis at this point.

I think he's being careful about making his decision. Good for him, as we don't want anyone coming in with doubt in their mind.

Perhaps he's now wrestling with big school versus small school issues. Who knows, but, assuming he is, then the only school that has a solid shot at him with an "M" fronting its name is Michigan. Distance still seems to be an issue for him. Otherwise, it may be a matter of Michigan's present recruiting pipeline and priority targets.

[PMI]

Did Josh piss in your Cheerios or something?

No, but I see you're still butt hurt about me disagreeing with you over the Richardson trade. Do you think Pastner is a good coach? Because that would actually make a lot of sense.

[SpectorJersey]

No I don't think he's a good coach, good recruiter. Just don't think that he's the scum of the earth like you say bc I don't know him.

[JTG]

Dana Kirk, Larry Finch, John Calipari....a history of probation and underhanded recruiting.

[xudash]

This is why Mack makes the big bucks - what a racket, this recruiting business:

http://blogs.indystar.com/recruitingcentral/archives/4252

[xudash]

And this decision may be something like three weeks out - - gleaned from the Michigan State board (they may become a problem here):

“He’s not looking,” Reynardo Bluiett said. “He definitely wants to have it done in two or three weeks.”

This is a quote from the Memphis Commercial Appeal article about Bluiett's visit this weekend. Need to get the kid on campus in EL.

[Masterofreality]

This is why Mack makes the big bucks - what a racket, this recruiting business:

http://blogs.indystar.com/recruitingcentral/archives/4252

Unfortunately, by comparison, CMack does not make big bucks vs other comparable coaches with similar resumes.

[xudash]

Unfortunately, by comparison, CMack does not make big bucks vs other comparable coaches with similar resumes.

Yes. I thought about that as I was writing that response. We can only hope that Xavier moves in a proactive manner on this issue, rather than reacting to competing bids for him at some point.

I would hope that, as a good season begins to unfold for us this year, the quiet conversations are held with him about an impending bump - - big bump.

[casualfan]

From what I'm hearing Michigan State is making quite a push.

[xudash]

From what I'm hearing Michigan State is making quite a push.

Yep. That's the one we're going to have to survive in order to land him.

Memphis was a free trip for perspective and perhaps some Rendezvous BBQ. His father mentioned a decision coming in three weeks. That most likely means time cut out for a trip to East Lansing.

[mistabeecee41]

Yep - updates say he's working on planning an Official Visit to MSU maybe for their midnight madness event. Will not be taking officials to X or Butler as he has already visited both campuses.

[Cheesehead]

From what I'm hearing Michigan State is making quite a push.

Michigan State & Tom Izzo? That guys never gets to the Final Four.

We are screwed.

[Titanxman04]

Just all comes down to distance from home. How far is too far? Certainly seems he'd be capable of playing for MSU or any other team he joins, but if he left UCLA due to the trek his parents would have to take to see him play, seems like MSU could be quite a hike as well.

Here's to hoping he's just testing the waters but already has his mind made up to come to X.

[Muskie]

If he doesn't commit to X ultimately I hope everyone will remember that we have a great class coming in already (not that I wouldn't take Blueitt in a heart beat). But I know there will be some who come on here and let us know that Chris Mack can't close and that this is all because of how X handled the Brawl/Dez fiasco.

[Titanxman04]

If he doesn't commit to X ultimately I hope everyone will remember that we have a great class coming in already (not that I wouldn't take Blueitt in a heart beat). But I know there will be some who come on here and let us know that Chris Mack can't close and that this is all because of how X handled the Brawl/Dez fiasco.

+1....except the Iron Fist said I couldn't. Either way, this.

[tfsb89]

No, but I see you're still butt hurt about me disagreeing with you over the Richardson trade. Do you think Pastner is a good coach? Because that would actually make a lot of sense.

It's down to Memphis (aka Basketball Purgatory) and MSU. Douchebag.

[powerofX]

Just all comes down to distance from home. How far is too far? .

I count 9 BIG 10 schools drivable from Indy (6 hours give or take). And 4 in the Big East. If distance is a factor...it really isn't. East lansing is on the fringe of my made up drivable distance so home games for his family could be limited...but roadies to Purdue, IU, NW, Illinois, etc. are all easy. Don't think its distance here. It's fit and comfort.

[Titanxman04]

It's down to Memphis (aka Basketball Purgatory) and MSU. Douchebag.

TFSB? What could that possible stand for? "Truely Fun Sucking...." Geez, what could that B stand for? Blueberries? No.... Basketballs? That doesn't seem to fit too well either... Anyone care to help?

Either way, everything I've seen is Xavier is more in it than the Tigers.

[Titanxman04]

I count 9 BIG 10 schools drivable from Indy (6 hours give or take). And 4 in the Big East. If distance is a factor...it really isn't. East lansing is on the fringe of my made up drivable distance so home games for his family could be limited...but roadies to Purdue, IU, NW, Illinois, etc. are all easy. Don't think its distance here. It's fit and comfort.

Great point.

[PMI]

It's down to Memphis (aka Basketball Purgatory) and MSU. Douchebag.

You have bad sources, which I assume are just the simpleton voices in your head, and you root for a program run by a little boy whose coaching is roughly similar to Calipari's ethics. Enjoy basketball purgatory over the next several years until that thing comes crashing down in spectacular fashion. I hope you're proud that the little boy continues to flat line the career arcs of some very promising players, who lack the intelligence and maturity not to get swindled into wasting their talents in purgatory. But thanks for stopping by.

[LA Muskie]

If he doesn't commit to X ultimately I hope everyone will remember that we have a great class coming in already (not that I wouldn't take Blueitt in a heart beat). But I know there will be some who come on here and let us know that Chris Mack can't close and that this is all because of how X handled the Brawl/Dez fiasco.
100% Agree.

[casualfan]

If he doesn't commit to X ultimately I hope everyone will remember that we have a great class coming in already (not that I wouldn't take Blueitt in a heart beat). But I know there will be some who come on here and let us know that Chris Mack can't close and that this is all because of how X handled the Brawl/Dez fiasco.

I agree with most of this although I wouldn't call this a "great" class.

Don't get me wrong it is a very good class and one that should fill a lot of needs.

Even if we get Bluiett I'm still not sure I'd consider it great.

[UofMemphis]

Louisville will be in the league exactly one year. And Tulane replaces them.

UConn, Cincy, Memphis, Temple, Tulsa, UCF, etc....even after this season, the AAC is better than where we were...no more getting excited about playing UTEP, UAB, and Southern Miss.

Josh has won 24, 25, 26, and 31 games over his 4 seasons...each season his teams get better...and that's true this season as well.

PG - Joe Jackson (five star, senior)
G - Chris Crawford (four star, senior)
G - Geron Johnson (four star, senior)
F - Austin Nichols (five star, freshman)
F - Shaq Goodwin (four star, Soph)
-----------------
Mike Dixon (B12 defensive POY, senior)
Kuran Iverson (four star, freshman)
Nick King (four star, freshman)
Dominic Woodson (four star, freshman)

[LA Muskie]

I agree with most of this although I wouldn't call this a "great" class.

Don't get me wrong it is a very good class and one that should fill a lot of needs.

Even if we get Bluiett I'm still not sure I'd consider it great.
From the perspective that the staff landed nearly every one of their top priorities, if not every one (Brian Snow pointed out on Scout, London and Macura were nearly even) it's a damn great class. And that's what the measure should be.

[LA Muskie]

UConn, Cincy, Memphis, Temple, Tulsa, UCF, etc....even after this season, the AAC is better than where we were...no more getting excited about playing UTEP, UAB, and Southern Miss.

Josh has won 24, 25, 26, and 31 games over his 4 seasons...each season his teams get better...and that's true this season as well.

PG - Joe Jackson (five star, senior)
G - Chris Crawford (four star, senior)
G - Geron Johnson (four star, senior)
F - Austin Nichols (five star, freshman)
F - Shaq Goodwin (four star, Soph)
-----------------
Mike Dixon (B12 defensive POY, senior)
Kuran Iverson (four star, freshman)
Nick King (four star, freshman)
Dominic Woodson (four star, freshman)
So you start 4- and 5-star recruits, all with at least 1 year of experience (and most with 3). I guess your hypothesis will be tested. With that recruiting starpower and experience, it seems to me that anything short of an Elite 8 should be a disappointment.

[ammtd34]

From the perspective that the staff landed nearly every one of their top priorities, if not every one (Brian Snow pointed out on Scout, London and Macura were nearly even) it's a damn great class. And that's what the measure should be.

I agree with this.

Whoever said it's down to Memphis and MSU is either lying or has a source who is lying.

[kyxu]

From the perspective that the staff landed nearly every one of their top priorities, if not every one (Brian Snow pointed out on Scout, London and Macura were nearly even) it's a damn great class. And that's what the measure should be.

Agreed. Mack and staff landed their priority targets in this class, which is the most important thing and has been difficult to do in the past. Blueitt would be a tremendous pick-up, but hardly represents a necessity.

[UofMemphis]

2002-2008 Assistant at Arizona
2008-2009 Assistant at Memphis

His mentor would probably be Lute, no?

Exactly...Josh spent a decade with Lute as a player and coach (including the 97 title)...just one season with Cal.

[PMI]

I agree with this.

Whoever said it's down to Memphis and MSU is either lying or has a source who is lying.

It was a Memphis fan who took offense to me accurately describing their coach who said it. I wouldn't even give it a second thought.

[Juice]

I agree with most of this although I wouldn't call this a "great" class.

Don't get me wrong it is a very good class and one that should fill a lot of needs.

Even if we get Bluiett I'm still not sure I'd consider it great.

For Xavier, it's a pretty damn good class. Based on rankings (yes rankings and not actual results), this may be one of X's best classes coming in.

[casualfan]

For Xavier, it's a pretty damn good class. Based on rankings (yes rankings and not actual results), this may be one of X's best classes coming in.

Sure. I totally get that. It just doesn't register as great to me.

A lot of it depends on how you are judging it. Are you judging it against our classes historically? Are you judging it against other teams in our league? Are you judging it against the top programs in the country?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Mine is that this is a really good class.

[Milhouse]

I think we saw truly how much Pastner cannot coach last year when he brought a team with a what? 15 game win streak into cincy?

We didn't even make the NIT and still beat'em. They had IMMENSELY more talent too.

[LA Muskie]

Sure. I totally get that. It just doesn't register as great to me.

A lot of it depends on how you are judging it. Are you judging it against our classes historically? Are you judging it against other teams in our league? Are you judging it against the top programs in the country?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Mine is that this is a really good class.
Really good vs. Great is splitting hairs in this context, and all relative. But historically this is toward the top of the list. And against other teams in the Big East it's in that range (Solidly in the Top 4 with GTown, Seton Hall, and Providence -- yeah I know!). Nationally in the Top 20. That said, I agree we will be even better with Trevon. The question is whether Trevon would take the class from really good to great, or from great to outstanding. I'm in the latter camp. Call me an optimist.

[LA Muskie]

I think we saw truly how much Pastner cannot coach last year when he brought a team with a what? 15 game win streak into cincy?

We didn't even make the NIT and still beat'em. They had IMMENSELY more talent too.

One game on the road does not a team define. But I digress. Pastner sucks.

[PMI]

One game on the road does not a team define. But I digress. Pastner sucks.

This is true. Every team gets upset on the road. But I remember that game, because it's one of the few I enjoyed going back and re-watching last year. Mack coached circles around Pastner. Every time I've watched Memphis play in his tenure, my opinion that he sucks at coaching has only grown stronger. He gets talented players, no doubt. But he cannot coach.

[Titanxman04]

This is true. Every team gets upset on the road. But I remember that game, because it's one of the few I enjoyed going back and re-watching last year. Mack coached circles around Pastner. Every time I've watched Memphis play in his tenure, my opinion that he sucks at coaching has only grown stronger. He gets talented players, no doubt. But he cannot coach.

One kid for Memphis went on a tear and scored something like four straight three-pointers. Outside of that, we out-played them. We stuck with it in the end and overcame their surge.

[casualfan]

Really good vs. Great is splitting hairs in this context, and all relative. But historically this is toward the top of the list. And against other teams in the Big East it's in that range (Solidly in the Top 4 with GTown, Seton Hall, and Providence -- yeah I know!). Nationally in the Top 20. That said, I agree we will be even better with Trevon. The question is whether Trevon would take the class from really good to great, or from great to outstanding. I'm in the latter camp. Call me an optimist.

What service are you using?

The two I have found team rankings on (Scout and 247sports) have us 5th. They both have the three you mentioned and Marquette ahead of us.

[LA Muskie]

What service are you using?

The two I have found team rankings on (Scout and 247sports) have us 5th. They both have the three you mentioned and Marquette ahead of us.
I wasn't really using a service -- I was mostly going off memory. I don't recall who Marquette got, but maybe they are in there as well. But that's fine. All would still be Top 20 recruiting classes (at least as of right now), which I would call very good to great.

[casualfan]

I wasn't really using a service -- I was mostly going off memory. I don't recall who Marquette got, but maybe they are in there as well. But that's fine. All would still be Top 20 recruiting classes (at least as of right now), which I would call very good to great.

Marquette got a commitment from a top 60 SG just a few days ago.

[LA Muskie]

Marquette got a commitment from a top 60 SG just a few days ago.
Ah...missed that. Yeah I would think that would move them up the board...

[UofMemphis]

So you start 4- and 5-star recruits, all with at least 1 year of experience (and most with 3). I guess your hypothesis will be tested. With that recruiting starpower and experience, it seems to me that anything short of an Elite 8 should be a disappointment.

I'd say Sweet 16...I doubt we win 31 games though...we will have to play Louisville, UConn, Cincy, Temple, Rutgers, UCF, etc home and away in conference this season.

[Milhouse]

Winning 2 Games in late march...in the same year? That's a tall order for Joshy boy.

[UofMemphis]

Winning 2 Games in late march...in the same year? That's a tall order for Joshy boy.

Coaching isn't just one man...Josh has two of the best asst coaches around in Aki Collins and Robert Kirby.

[LA Muskie]

I'd say Sweet 16...I doubt we win 31 games though...we will have to play Louisville, UConn, Cincy, Temple, Rutgers, UCF, etc home and away in conference this season.
See maybe that's the problem. You Memphis folks have low expectations. Over here in Muskie country, we expect Sweet 16's with far less recruiting star power. Maybe you guys should check out how we do things...

[UofMemphis]

See maybe that's the problem. You Memphis folks have low expectations. Over here in Muskie country, we expect Sweet 16's with far less recruiting star power. Maybe you guys should check out how we do things...

you sound uninformed.

perhaps you should check out the condition of the program after Cal's "scorched earth" exit to Kentucky...he left Memphis on NCAA probation...took Wall, Cousins, and Dodson to Kentucky and caused Xavier Henry to go to Kansas...moreover, he stooped so low as to hire away our support staff and even take the pictures and furniture from our coaches offices.

here's Josh in his office the day he was hired:
http://media.commercialappeal.com/media/img/photos/2009/04/11/s12pastner1_t607.jpeg

notice the holes in the walls...

Josh has done a great job so far.

[Titanxman04]

you sound uninformed.

perhaps you should check out the condition of the program after Cal's "scorched earth" exit to Kentucky...he left Memphis on NCAA probation...took Wall, Cousins, and Dodson to Kentucky and caused Xavier Henry to go to Kansas...moreover, he stooped so low as to hire away our support staff and even take the pictures and furniture from our coaches offices.

here's Josh in his office the day he was hired:
http://media.commercialappeal.com/media/img/photos/2009/04/11/s12pastner1_t607.jpeg

notice the holes in the walls...

Josh has done a great job so far.

Cal is a jerk, but he wasn't allowed to take his pictures home? Nor take his recruits? Or his coaching staff? That seems standard practice across the board. I currently plan on leaving my position in a bit to go after my masters, but are you telling me I'm screwing over my replacement when I take my pictures home?

[TigersCane]

Sorry Boys....

CJP will lock down Blueitt this weekend

Get over it.....you lose

TrUeTh

[ballyhoohoo]

I'd say Sweet 16...I doubt we win 31 games though...we will have to play Louisville, UConn, Cincy, Temple, Rutgers, UCF, etc home and away in conference this season.

Wen did Rutgers and UCF become tough games?

[TigersCane]

Cal is a jerk, but he wasn't allowed to take his pictures home? Nor take his recruits? Or his coaching staff? That seems standard practice across the board. I currently plan on leaving my position in a bit to go after my masters, but are you telling me I'm screwing over my replacement when I take my pictures home?

He took the snow cone machine too.

[TigersCane]

Wen did Rutgers and UCF become tough games?

Just worry about George Washington Skippy

[RealDeal]

Sorry Boys....

CJP will lock down Blueitt this weekend

Get over it.....you lose

TrUeTh

Didn't we play just last year? How did that go?

[xudash]

Just worry about George Washington Skippy

We don"t play GW anymore.

[RealDeal]

Just worry about George Washington Skippy

What?

[XU 87]

Sorry Boys....

CJP will lock down Blueitt this weekend

Get over it.....you lose

TrUeTh

Does Memphis offer 4 year degrees yet?

[UofMemphis]

Cal is a jerk, but he wasn't allowed to take his pictures home? Nor take his recruits? Or his coaching staff? That seems standard practice across the board. I currently plan on leaving my position in a bit to go after my masters, but are you telling me I'm screwing over my replacement when I take my pictures home?

of course not...he did not buy the office furniture, the pictures on the wall, the flat screen TVs, or the sno-cone machine...but he took them anyway.

as for recruits, what he did was so outrageous the NCAA passed "the Calipari rule"

http://www.aseaofblue.com/2009/10/27/1103834/the-calipari-rule

[UofMemphis]

Rutgers...I don't know crap about them...don't really want to.

but UCF, they're a sleeping giant...3 straight 20+ wins seasons...nice new arena...good coach who can recruit...massive student population.

love UCF Arena:
http://www.stadiumsusa.com/images/thumbs/ba1da004d340be11bec3648ccccc13687dd70299.jpg-590x1000.png

[paulxu]

Wen did Rutgers and UCF become tough games?

It's the AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAck don't you know. The conference everybody wants to leave. Well....maybe not Tulane.

[LA Muskie]

you sound uninformed.

perhaps you should check out the condition of the program after Cal's "scorched earth" exit to Kentucky...he left Memphis on NCAA probation...took Wall, Cousins, and Dodson to Kentucky and caused Xavier Henry to go to Kansas...moreover, he stooped so low as to hire away our support staff and even take the pictures and furniture from our coaches offices.

here's Josh in his office the day he was hired:
http://media.commercialappeal.com/media/img/photos/2009/04/11/s12pastner1_t607.jpeg

notice the holes in the walls...

Josh has done a great job so far.
You sound uneducated. You said that Memphis will start two 5* and three 4* recruits this year, 3 of whom are seniors, and that you will be happy with a Sweet 16. If so, your expectations are lower than ours would be.

[UofMemphis]

It's the AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAck don't you know. The conference everybody wants to leave. Well....maybe not Tulane.

UConn, Cincy, Memphis, Temple, Tulsa, UCF, Houston, Navy...yeah, I'll take that conference in a second.

as for Tulane...look up Yulman Stadium...on campus 30,000 seat stadium under construction right now.

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg17/scaled.php?server=17&filename=tiii.jpg&res=landing

Tulane is currently 5-2 (3-0 CUSA)

[UofMemphis]

You sound uneducated. You said that Memphis will start two 5* and three 4* recruits this year, 3 of whom are seniors, and that you will be happy with a Sweet 16. If so, your expectations are lower than ours would be.

you can't Guarantee anything past the second round...that's why it's fun to watch.

[LA Muskie]

you can't Guarantee anything past the second round...that's why it's fun to watch.
Well obviously. There are no guarantees. Expectations are different.

[chico]

He took the snow cone machine too.

Well that rascal. Oh, the humanity!

I'm sure you certainly didn't see any of this coming. You make a deal with the devil, don't act all righteous when you get burned.

[chico]

you sound uninformed.

perhaps you should check out the condition of the program after Cal's "scorched earth" exit to Kentucky...he left Memphis on NCAA probation...took Wall, Cousins, and Dodson to Kentucky and caused Xavier Henry to go to Kansas...moreover, he stooped so low as to hire away our support staff and even take the pictures and furniture from our coaches offices.

here's Josh in his office the day he was hired:
http://media.commercialappeal.com/media/img/photos/2009/04/11/s12pastner1_t607.jpeg

notice the holes in the walls...

Josh has done a great job so far.

Sorry, but you hired the guy. Most "informed" people knew the guy's track record. Did you really think Memphis was going to change him? Were you all that naive?

As for Pastner, he's proven he can recruit but has yet to prove he can coach at a high level.

[UofMemphis]

Well that rascal. Oh, the humanity!

I'm sure you certainly didn't see any of this coming. You make a deal with the devil, don't act all righteous when you get burned.

Who's complaining...I loved Cal's tenure here...he's a great coach...I was simple describing the aftermath of his exit...it was a true scorched earth exit.

Josh has kept Memphis relevant which is tough to do in the craptastic CUSA...those days are now over...even after this season I can't wait to play UConn, Cincy, Temple, Tulsa, UCF, etc over trying to get excited about UTEP, UAB, and Southern Miss.

[chico]

Who's complaining...I loved Cal's tenure here...he's a great coach...I was simple describing the aftermath of his exit...it was a true scorched earth exit.

Josh has kept Memphis relevant which is tough to do in the craptastic CUSA...those days are now over...even after this season I can't wait to play UConn, Cincy, Temple, Tulsa, UCF, etc over trying to get excited about UTEP, UAB, and Southern Miss.

You make is sound like you never saw this coming. And it sounds nothing short of disingenuous to detail what he did and call it "scorched earth," then turn around ad say how much you loved the guy.

I hope for your sake Pastner can take the next step, but he's facing much better coaching than he did in C-USA, as well as better talent on the court. And he still needs to prove himself in March. One win isn't going to do that.

[Juice]

you sound uninformed.

perhaps you should check out the condition of the program after Cal's "scorched earth" exit to Kentucky...he left Memphis on NCAA probation...took Wall, Cousins, and Dodson to Kentucky and caused Xavier Henry to go to Kansas...moreover, he stooped so low as to hire away our support staff and even take the pictures and furniture from our coaches offices.

here's Josh in his office the day he was hired:
http://media.commercialappeal.com/media/img/photos/2009/04/11/s12pastner1_t607.jpeg

notice the holes in the walls...

Josh has done a great job so far.

That does suck but it's not like it was some surprise. The Memphis program kind of asked for it when they hired Calipari.

[UofMemphis]

You make is sound like you never saw this coming. And it sounds nothing short of disingenuous to detail what he did and call it "scorched earth," then turn around ad say how much you loved the guy.

I hope for your sake Pastner can take the next step, but he's facing much better coaching than he did in C-USA, as well as better talent on the court. And he still needs to prove himself in March. One win isn't going to do that.

We knew what we were getting into...and I really enjoyed his teams but I also hated the way he left.

[BandAid]

UConn, Cincy, Memphis, Temple, Tulsa, UCF, Houston, Navy...yeah, I'll take that conference in a second.

as for Tulane...look up Yulman Stadium...on campus 30,000 seat stadium under construction right now.

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg17/scaled.php?server=17&filename=tiii.jpg&res=landing

Tulane is currently 5-2 (3-0 CUSA)

Uh...that's a football field bro. This is about basketball.

[UofMemphis]

Uh...that's a football field bro. This is about basketball.

That's why the AAC and BE split...

[paulxu]

30,000 is not real football.

[D West]

Who's complaining...I loved Cal's tenure here...he's a great coach...I was simple describing the aftermath of his exit...it was a true scorched earth exit.

Josh has kept Memphis relevant which is tough to do in the craptastic CUSA...those days are now over...even after this season I can't wait to play UConn, Cincy, Temple, Tulsa, UCF, etc over trying to get excited about UTEP, UAB, and Southern Miss.



My guess is UConn, Cincy and Temple will take the first conference invite they get for football and get out of the AAC as quickly as possible. Nobody is happy with this arrangement for football. Expect another conference shuffle within the next two years.

[nuts4xu]

..and I really enjoyed his teams but I also hated the way he left.

I would say this about a lot of coaches that left jobs over the years, including a couple of coaches that left Xavier.

People think Cal is slimy, and he probably is. I kind of like the guy, and think he is a good coach. Just wouldn't want to sell my soul to have him coach my team. I like the thought of him (or any coach) taking Xavier to the championship game, winning 39 games in a season, and final fours, but the scorched earth aftermath would be something I would always worry about if he was hired. I think we can get there without the shady-ness of such a coach, and if we need a shady coach to get us there, I don't think I want to be there in the first place.

[Blue Blobs Bro]

Just worry about George Washington Skippy

im sorry, did you miss out on the whole conference realignment thingy that happened, because if you did, xavier is not in the a10 any more, we dont play george washington. skippy

[Titanxman04]

of course not...he did not buy the office furniture, the pictures on the wall, the flat screen TVs, or the sno-cone machine...but he took them anyway.

as for recruits, what he did was so outrageous the NCAA passed "the Calipari rule"

http://www.aseaofblue.com/2009/10/27/1103834/the-calipari-rule

So Memphis is such a wonderful place that a recruit going on a visit won't be able to resist and will commit there over X or MSU or Butler... But they are also in such a state where they are unable to refurnish and decorate an office? Somethings off...

Also, just curious...is there proof that Memphis supplied the pictures on the wall? Were they gifts from the school to the coach? And obviously, I'm wondering the overall sentiment of Cal after he got your Final Four striped from you. Honest question.

[xudash]

I picture Xavier fans and Memphis fans outside some great cathedral of recruiting where recruits hover before making their final decision.

They're out in the front parking lot, bickering.

I see a limo roll up to the front door, next to the bickering fans. Out steps Tom Izzo. Xavier fans have their hands around the necks of Memphis fans. Memphis fans have their hands around the necks of Xavier fans. Izzo steps from the limo, looks at them for a moment, grins, and turns towards the front door.

Out walks Trevon Blueitt. He shakes Izzo's hand and steps into the limo with him. They drive off, looking at the frozen bickering fans as they go.

The bickering fans look at one another, then let go of each other's necks and go home.

Life goes on.

[nuts4xu]

It sounds like this recruitment is winding down, and that his visit to MSU will be his last official.

Nothing has changed in regards to Xavier's standing, and we should hear a decision in the coming weeks (if not sooner).

[Titanxman04]

It sounds like this recruitment is winding down, and that his visit to MSU will be his last official.

Nothing has changed in regards to Xavier's standing, and we should hear a decision in the coming weeks (if not sooner).

As in what we originally have heard is still what we should believe?

[mistabeecee41]

I picture Xavier fans and Memphis fans outside some great cathedral of recruiting where recruits hover before making their final decision.

They're out in the front parking lot, bickering.

I see a limo roll up to the front door, next to the bickering fans. Out steps Tom Izzo. Xavier fans have their hands around the necks of Memphis fans. Memphis fans have their hands around the necks of Xavier fans. Izzo steps from the limo, looks at them for a moment, grins, and turns towards the front door.

Out walks Trevon Blueitt. He shakes Izzo's hand and steps into the limo with him. They drive off, looking at the frozen bickering fans as they go.

The bickering fans look at one another, then let go of each other's necks and go home.

Life goes on.

Priceless. My guess would be that MSU will be the frontrunner after todays visit.

[Titanxman04]

I've decided to sign up for Scout. I've gots to know!

[BMoreX]

I've decided to sign up for Scout. I've gots to know!

You won't regret it.

[PMI]

It sounds like this recruitment is winding down, and that his visit to MSU will be his last official.

Nothing has changed in regards to Xavier's standing, and we should hear a decision in the coming weeks (if not sooner).

Has a Michigan State visit been scheduled? Last I heard there was no guarantee he was going to visit.

Edit: Never mind, just saw he is visiting MSU this week.

[nuts4xu]

As in what we originally have heard is still what we should believe?

Yes, we are on his short list, and have been recruiting him longer than most all the schools on his list.

[xudash]

Has a Michigan State visit been scheduled? Last I heard there was no guarantee he was going to visit.

Edit: Never mind, just saw he is visiting MSU this week.

Sounds like they're working on it: http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=175&f=2655&t=12155625

So, he isn't their primary target. Their primary targets appear to be headed for Kentucky. Then you have this: "So with these two off TE board by November possibly, look for the Bess situation with MSU to become a lot more clear."

So, two primaries go elsewhere and then there is one more they're working on in their pipeline, if I'm interpreting his statement correctly.

There also is this:

according to some twitter tweeps (so take it with a grain of salt)

Derek Piper ‏ @ FeelDaPaign
# MSU and Bluiett are trying to work out a visit this weekend. Midnight Madness on Friday. May go on Wed. or Thurs. if schedule allows

The guy who tweeted this also posted on a different board:

"Bluiett is currently working out a visit to Michigan State this weekend. They have their Midnight Madness on Friday, but he said MSU is interested in bringing him in before that (giving him individual attention instead of 'one of many' recruits at MM).

His coach said that there are a lot of things that Bluiett likes about MSU. (Quoting his words) Unbelievable strength of schedule, arguably the best basketball conference in the country, Izzo on the "Mount Rushmore of college coaches", they have an NBA-style program, he has family in Detroit (uncle played at MSU).

The biggest sell, though, is that Gary Harris and Branden Dawson are expected to go pro next year, and MSU will need a scorer/shooter to come in and be ready to play right away. They want Bluiett to be that guy, Cox said."

Again, just speculation and who the heck knows with this year no idea, but this all sounds pretty encouraging for a guy we jumped in late on!

Here's the end formula on this, in my opinion:

Xavier v. Michigan State as programs must be perceived to be within reach of one another (i.e. respecting MSU's position in the sport, etc., he must perceive that Xavier, with its resume, membership in the Big East, academics, size, etc. is a truly viable alternative). Otherwise, we're at risk if he gets bowled over by bigness.

The other piece of the equation, assuming he continues to find the Xavier program to be, shall we say, sufficiently attractive as compared to the Michigan State program, will be the relationship factor. He has a relationship with Mack. Izzo, regardless of his standing, is late to the party and obviously has been focused on other targets.

In the course of chalking up life experiences, I'll personally never know what it's like going through a high-level recruiting process like this. He's a young man whose head must be spinning right now.

Bottom-line: he'll come to Xavier if he doesn't feel it in East Lansing this weekend.

[nuts4xu]

His MSU visit will take place before this weekend...

[nuts4xu]

I've decided to sign up for Scout. I've gots to know!

BMOREX is right, if you like to read the latest recruiting information and a board that is almost completely about basketball, you will enjoy your Scout subscription.

[xudash]

His MSU visit will take place before this weekend...

Does that include staying for their MM then?

That has to mean he's going up today. Note what the fan above wrote: "but he said MSU is interested in bringing him in before that (giving him individual attention instead of 'one of many' recruits at MM)"

I would feel much better about this if he's making a day trip today, or coming home tomorrow afternoon at the latest.

[casualfan]

Does that include staying for their MM then?

That has to mean he's going up today. Note what the fan above wrote: "but he said MSU is interested in bringing him in before that (giving him individual attention instead of 'one of many' recruits at MM)"

I would feel much better about this if he's making a day trip today, or coming home tomorrow afternoon at the latest.

It's an official visit so he will be there for 48 hours from the time he steps on campus.