View Full Version : Trevon Bluiett - Commit - XAVIER (OFFICIAL)
paulxu
10-27-2013, 06:05 PM
I hope he was coming with his family to tell Mack he'd settled on X...not a personal visit to deliver the opposite news.
Musketeer_15
10-27-2013, 06:18 PM
I hope he was coming with his family to tell Mack he'd settled on X...not a personal visit to deliver the opposite news.
Kind of a waste of time and money if he is gonna make the trip to deliver the opposite news...
bobbiemcgee
10-27-2013, 07:04 PM
Damn, I was hoping to get the 500th post. If he commits maybe I'll get the 2000th.
Masterofreality
10-27-2013, 07:15 PM
Arrogance run a muck: http://http://michiganstate.247sports.com/Board/95/14-IN-SF-Trevon-Bluiett-Michigan-State-offer--22079008/15
Yeah, pretty much. One guy says that Xavier could never win a National Championship..that we don't have the "material".
And then there's this. We are now a Honda Civic, not even a Buick.
" I understand that some kids might have other interests -- be it family connections to other schools, having a favorite school all growing up, a girlfriend going to a certain school, etc. -- but ALL of them? You would think that at least a couple of these kids would say, "I really love my Honda Civic, but this guy's asking me to take a free Ferrari," and jump at Izzo's offer."
BTW the Memphis Roar guy who on 247 predicted that Trevon would go to Michigan State, had predicted that He was going to Memphis 5 days ago..and now has changed. Everybody else is solidly X on predictions.
Juice
10-27-2013, 07:21 PM
Yeah, pretty much. One guy says that Xavier could never win a National Championship..that we don't have the "material".
And then there's this. We are now a Honda Civic, not even a Buick.
" I understand that some kids might have other interests -- be it family connections to other schools, having a favorite school all growing up, a girlfriend going to a certain school, etc. -- but ALL of them? You would think that at least a couple of these kids would say, "I really love my Honda Civic, but this guy's asking me to take a free Ferrari," and jump at Izzo's offer."
BTW the Memphis Roar guy who on 247 predicted that Trevon would go to Michigan State, had predicted that He was going to Memphis 5 days ago..and now has changed. Everybody else is solidly X on predictions.
I also love this guy.
greenfever said...
You are correct,kids could care less about winning all they care about is getting to the league. That is what kills MSU. The best thing that could have happened to MSU would be for Harris to have gone pro and torn it up. One and dones are better than banners in today's recruiting world. Sad but true.
That is what made Kentuckys run two years ago pretty incredible. I think they crash and burn this year like last ( god I hope I am right).
Congrats to Xavier if true. Good coach, program, and they were in early.
The opportunity was here but he was far less likely to be the alpha dog in EL then at Xavier, and that seemed to be an important factor. Hope he does well.
Somehow Michigan State only recruits kids that "care about winning" and don't worry about making it to the league. They are the St. Louis Cardinals and Notre Dame of the college basketball world.
danaandvictory
10-27-2013, 08:19 PM
Actually I think that guy is right. Of all the elite programs in the country, Michigan State and Duke are about the only ones that seem to get 3-4 year players and aren't glorified NBA sleepover camps.
I don't think it makes any difference as far as Bluiett goes, but I can understand how an MSU fan would be frustrated with the state of things at that top level. I mean, it's like two different games at this point - you have college basketball and you have NBA prep.
Juice
10-27-2013, 08:37 PM
Actually I think that guy is right. Of all the elite programs in the country, Michigan State and Duke are about the only ones that seem to get 3-4 year players and aren't glorified NBA sleepover camps.
I don't think it makes any difference as far as Bluiett goes, but I can understand how an MSU fan would be frustrated with the state of things at that top level. I mean, it's like two different games at this point - you have college basketball and you have NBA prep.
And I agree that MSU guys do usually stay longer but to say that one and done guys don't care about winning is just false.
waggy
10-27-2013, 08:57 PM
I wouldn't go to MSU just because of that god awful green.
Caveat
10-27-2013, 09:31 PM
And I agree that MSU guys do usually stay longer but to say that one and done guys don't care about winning is just false.
Let's be real -- none of these top-100 recruits "care about winning" -- they enjoy winning as a byproduct of their own success, but they're mostly in it to make themselves better and end up in the association at some point.
Juice
10-27-2013, 09:41 PM
Let's be real -- none of these top-100 recruits "care about winning" -- they enjoy winning as a byproduct of their own success, but they're mostly in it to make themselves better and end up in the association at some point.
Oh ok.
XUFan09
10-27-2013, 10:40 PM
Let's be real -- none of these top-100 recruits "care about winning" -- they enjoy winning as a byproduct of their own success, but they're mostly in it to make themselves better and end up in the association at some point.
He said, "Let's be real," so it must be entirely accurate.
Ledgewood
10-27-2013, 11:00 PM
He said, "Let's be real," so it must be entirely accurate.
Hahaha. This has all just been highly entertaining.
waggy
10-27-2013, 11:11 PM
And dribbling is when saliva unexectantly flows out of your mouth...
xudash
10-27-2013, 11:26 PM
Bits and pieces:
"Mod on Spartanmag just posted that word around the MSU athletic offices is MSU is pessimistic about getting Bluiett"
That was posted on their 247 site about an hour ago.
Masterofreality
10-28-2013, 08:54 AM
Here we goooooooooo.....
“@XUNation: X Nation! Wink, wink, wink!! Today is looking to be an incredible Monday #XMarksDaSpot”
bleedXblue
10-28-2013, 09:01 AM
Who's Twitter ????
Titanxman04
10-28-2013, 09:03 AM
Here we goooooooooo.....
“@XUNation: X Nation! Wink, wink, wink!! Today is looking to be an incredible Monday #XMarksDaSpot”
Yea, who posted that? For all we know now, that could be the bookstore announcing the release of some new Xavier business socks.
Charlesbt4
10-28-2013, 09:10 AM
Yea, who posted that? For all we know now, that could be the bookstore announcing the release of some new Xavier business socks.
Finally, something to get excited about.
XUmeat
10-28-2013, 09:13 AM
Here we goooooooooo.....
“@XUNation: X Nation! Wink, wink, wink!! Today is looking to be an incredible Monday #XMarksDaSpot”
Everything about that account suggests they don't have any inside info and just want to gain more followers.
GoMuskies
10-28-2013, 09:13 AM
Yea, who posted that? For all we know now, that could be the bookstore announcing the release of some new Xavier business socks.
I'd buy those.
Milhouse
10-28-2013, 09:20 AM
I can't imagine it will draw out too long. Further we get from MSU's in home the better though.
He will annouce Xavier today....took a little longer than initially thought but none the less X got their man and a great class to boot....way to go coach Mack
paulxu
10-28-2013, 09:41 AM
I'd buy those.
http://xavier.cbscollegestore.com/store/Vendor250/fullscale/5650707J-c.jpg
Titanxman04
10-28-2013, 09:43 AM
http://xavier.cbscollegestore.com/store/Vendor250/fullscale/5650707J-c.jpg
I've got three pairs myself.
GoMuskies
10-28-2013, 09:46 AM
Just reading Michigan State's 24/7 board, and about 20 minutes ago a post popped up there that was actually pretty bullish on Michigan State's chances with Blueitt. I'll wait to celebrate until we hear it from the horse's mouth.
Charlesbt4
10-28-2013, 09:50 AM
Can this recruitment just be over with already, so that I can go back to living my life?
BandAid
10-28-2013, 09:52 AM
Can this recruitment just be over with already, so that I can back to living my life?
I hope this is all the drama Trevon ever has in his college career - for whichever school lands him.
Just reading Michigan State's 24/7 board, and about 20 minutes ago a post popped up there that was actually pretty bullish on Michigan State's chances with Blueitt. I'll wait to celebrate until we hear it from the horse's mouth.
That all may be the case, but those "reporting" on Michigan State's 247 board do not seem to be as plugged in to this recruitment as guys like Brian Snow, who has pretty much been all over this from the beginning.
GoMuskies
10-28-2013, 09:56 AM
By the way, the post bullish on MSU was mostly based on what the Michigan State Rivals guy is hearing. The Michigan State Rivals site is all premium (no free message board), so I have no idea what the MSU Rivals guy is saying.
Masterofreality
10-28-2013, 10:21 AM
Everything about that account suggests they don't have any inside info and just want to gain more followers.
False. They reported the same type of tweet right before we heard from Makinde London and Macura. Who else is going to follow anyway other than Xavier interested people?
"Not affiliated" is a cover. The guy has in inside contact.
XUOHTX
10-28-2013, 10:48 AM
Who is Blueitt?
XUmeat
10-28-2013, 10:56 AM
False. They reported the same type of tweet right before we heard from Makinde London and Macura. Who else is going to follow anyway other than Xavier interested people?
"Not affiliated" is a cover. The guy has in inside contact.
He also predicted "good news is hours away" 4 days ago... he is just playing the odds. Everyone knows this is winding down
XUFan09
10-28-2013, 11:01 AM
Who is Blueitt?
Lol
floorsweeper
10-28-2013, 12:45 PM
Latest rumor:
Announcement Wednesday
Michigan State
Juice
10-28-2013, 12:51 PM
Latest rumor:
Announcement Wednesday
Michigan State
Duuuurrrrrrr, I'm going to report contrary information on some other team's message board, durrrrrrrrrr
casualfan
10-28-2013, 12:56 PM
@G2_Blog 9m Conflicting info on Bluiett starting to roll out. Always gets interesting in the days leading up to an announcement, doesn't it?
casualfan
10-28-2013, 12:58 PM
@G2_Blog 9m Conflicting info on Bluiett starting to roll out. Always gets interesting in the days leading up to an announcement, doesn't it?
Chris @CopeMoney 47m
@G2_Blog What's the latest you're hearing? MSU or X?
Adam @G2_Blog 38m
@CopeMoney very reliable source said X on Friday, but this kid can change his mind hourly, so who knows what has happened in last 24 hours
I hope Blueitt picks Xavier, but I am very ready for this particular recruitment to be done, regardless of his destination.
casualfan
10-28-2013, 01:24 PM
I hope Blueitt picks Xavier, but I am very ready for this particular recruitment to be done, regardless of his destination.
Yep. Getting to that point myself.
Titanxman04
10-28-2013, 01:31 PM
Would love for this kid to come to X obviously, but I just hope he makes the right decision for him. Hope where ever he decides to go is the best place for Bluiett. I love that he's makign sure he hears from everyone before making a decision right away, but I too, wouldn't mind this ending.
toledodan
10-28-2013, 01:40 PM
someone is reporting over at muskie madness that he picked memphis. no link or anything
GoMuskies
10-28-2013, 01:44 PM
someone is reporting over at muskie madness that he picked memphis. no link or anything
Now that would be a complete surprise. Probably even to Memphis.
toledodan
10-28-2013, 01:47 PM
Now that would be a complete surprise. Probably even to Memphis.
hope you are right.
GoMuskies
10-28-2013, 01:49 PM
Right about what? I'm not saying it's untrue. Just that even Memphis probably didn't expect him to pick the Tigers. If so, it would seemingly surprise everyone.
toledodan
10-28-2013, 01:51 PM
right that it would be such a surprise and so much that there isn't any truth to him going there.
Masterofreality
10-28-2013, 01:51 PM
Right about what? I'm not saying it's untrue. Just that even Memphis probably didn't expect him to pick the Tigers. If so, it would seemingly surprise everyone.
Including the two Memphis guys on 247 who just switched off their Memphis predictions to Michigan State in the last 24 hours.
Maybe Pastner sent a Brinks truck to the house with loads of Cash?
xavierj
10-28-2013, 02:00 PM
It's either Xavier or Michigan st. I think he was ready to comitt twice to Xavier last week but someone is in his ear. My guess is that it's turning toward MSU.
paulxu
10-28-2013, 02:12 PM
Wonder what it does to the ego of a 17 year old kid to have this many people on multiple boards talking about you.
Hope he and his family have their heads on right, and make a good decision for the kid. Maybe he's seen a lot of DWest in Indy and understands X is a great place for a good education and opportunity if you have the tools for the next level.
Xavier Nation
10-28-2013, 02:56 PM
I am guessing we will not know until there is some kind of announcement he has at school, and we know that is not happening today and I think they would have announced it by now if it was tomorrow. My guess is we will not know until Wednesday or Thursday. (I hope something leaks because the suspense is killing me!)
bobbiemcgee
10-28-2013, 03:00 PM
Wonder what it does to the ego of a 17 year old kid to have this many people on multiple boards talking about you.
Hope he and his family have their heads on right, and make a good decision for the kid. Maybe he's seen a lot of DWest in Indy and understands X is a great place for a good education and opportunity if you have the tools for the next level.
DWest was washing his car with an X foam finger when he came out of practice.
toledodan
10-28-2013, 03:12 PM
DWest was washing his car with an X foam finger when he came out of practice.
lmao
Masterofreality
10-28-2013, 03:46 PM
This just in....nothing in....yet.
http://zagsblog.com/articles/bluiett-expected-to-decide-this-week/
Honestly, the longer this goes, the less I like it. Sounds like the kid really likes X, but others are influencing.
What the hell else do you need to know?
casualfan
10-28-2013, 03:53 PM
This just in....nothing in....yet.
http://zagsblog.com/articles/bluiett-expected-to-decide-this-week/
Honestly, the longer this goes, the less I like it. Sounds like the kid really likes X, but others are influencing.
What the hell else do you need to know?
Agreed. Anytime there is a perceived favorite and things keep dragging out it is typically bad for said favorite. Like you said, it seems like someone is in his ear.
XUFan09
10-28-2013, 04:10 PM
It could be that, or it could be that they are stretching out the process to ensure it's the right choice, since before he committed on his UCLA visit. I'm not saying for sure it's that, just providing a reasonable alternative explanation. Remember that this kid has three weeks leeway to decide before signing. He seems to be taking advantage of that, either way.
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Milhouse
10-28-2013, 04:13 PM
He had an in home with Izzo on Friday and then decided to visit X again on Saturday. I think that's a good sign.
But then again what do I know?
paulxu
10-28-2013, 05:05 PM
This thread now has more posts than any thread since Muskie re-configured the Men's Basketball section.
This may not end well.
xudash
10-28-2013, 05:41 PM
Chris Mack deserves better than this.
Our program is in great shape either way.
We truly now live in an era where there is simply too much information.
casualfan
10-28-2013, 05:52 PM
Memphis 247 guys are saying MSU or Memphis.
This thing has hit three ring circus proportions. I don't know what to believe, but the memphis 247 guys are typically pretty good.
Muskie in dayton
10-28-2013, 05:55 PM
The last recruit to garner this much attention during the recruiting process was Ari Stewart. Just some perspective...
ArizonaXUGrad
10-28-2013, 06:12 PM
Honestly, as far as fit goes Memphis is the worst of the bunch. I think Blueitt is a better fit at Butler/Xavier/MSU. Each of these teams have a need for a 6'5 wing to come in, play, and be a major part of the offense.
Memphis has a 5* and a 4* wing in the 2013 class that Blueitt would have to beat out before he saw the court. Not to mention, Pastner is a pretty rotten coach. Guy basically rolls the ball out and lets them run around.
I think if he sticks to the three we have been talking about he can't lose situation wise. I am not post useless crap about Butler. Fact is, he would get PT right away and be in the Big East. At Xavier, he would have arguably a better nucleus and would be competing with Abell/Richards/maybe Martin for PT. At MSU he would be in the B1G, probably the nation's best conference, but would be stuck in a half court game.
It's a tough choice for the kid, don't blame him for waiting.
Bulldawg
10-28-2013, 06:41 PM
As some people at Butler may lead you to believe, we do not hate you guys, we wish you the best in this recruitment and hope to have a friendly rivalry. That being said, I can only speak for most of us, since every team has trolls. Reality is Butler is going to suck this year, so we really shouldn't be trying to challenge a team that's probably going to annihilate us.
Masterofreality
10-28-2013, 06:49 PM
As some people at Butler may lead you to believe, we do not hate you guys, we wish you the best in this recruitment and hope to have a friendly rivalry. That being said, I can only speak for most of us, since every team has trolls. Reality is Butler is going to suck this year, so we really shouldn't be trying to challenge a team that's probably going to annihilate us.
Welcome to the board. I really don't get people that troll other team's boards.
bobbiemcgee
10-28-2013, 06:58 PM
Memphis 247 guys are saying MSU or Memphis.
This thing has hit three ring circus proportions. I don't know what to believe, but the memphis 247 guys are typically pretty good.
One guy has 5 picks - 2 wrong already.
ammtd34
10-28-2013, 07:10 PM
One guy has 5 picks - 2 wrong already.
Lulz.
XUPhilly04
10-28-2013, 07:23 PM
Why are you here? People seem to have made it quite clear that they would prefer you leave. I'm just trying to understand what drives an individual to come to another team's message board and post 43 times in less than a month. Obviously not well developed social skills.
Nobody cares what rumors you have heard. There are millions of rumors flying around about where this kid is going to go, many of them far more credible than you. Just go back to the Butler board and bother them.
You probably don't understand because you receive the care and attention from your family and friends. Obviously, this guy is not getting that at home. You guys most likely have given him more attention here in the last month than anywhere else. Sadly, to get your attention, he feels that he must try to stir the pot in order get a response instead just writing a well-intended post like some fans of other schools here.
People want him to go away, then just ignore his post. After a while, he will go away and do something else to get the attention he seeks. Ignore but feel sorry for the guy as he likely does not have the quality of friends and family you have. Most likely, whats really troubling this guy isn't XU or Butler Bball. Hopefully, he gets the help he needs.
vee4xu
10-28-2013, 07:36 PM
So, this is a thread about a young man who is transferring from UCLA's men's basketball team? Wow, he better hurry up and make a decision because this thread has gone waayyy off base.
ArizonaXUGrad
10-28-2013, 07:37 PM
As some people at Butler may lead you to believe, we do not hate you guys, we wish you the best in this recruitment and hope to have a friendly rivalry. That being said, I can only speak for most of us, since every team has trolls. Reality is Butler is going to suck this year, so we really shouldn't be trying to challenge a team that's probably going to annihilate us.
Not sure how bad Butler will be, but having no PG is going to hurt in a conference that will require you to have one. Losing Jones to an injury who took the ball up the court last year doesn't help. At this point, I would think Morgan is your best bet
XUPhilly04
10-28-2013, 07:51 PM
So, this is a thread about a young man who is transferring from UCLA's men's basketball team? Wow, he better hurry up and make a decision because this thread has gone waayyy off base.
Yea, I just want a decision already, then we can move on to............ 2015 TARGETS! Ok, maybe a break from recruits and move on to the non-conf games.
Bulldawg
10-28-2013, 08:06 PM
Not sure how bad Butler will be, but having no PG is going to hurt in a conference that will require you to have one. Losing Jones to an injury who took the ball up the court last year doesn't help. At this point, I would think Morgan is your best bet
I really do not think Morgan is ready for the 1 at all, don't even think its his position, although he has no played much and is very much an unknown. Anyways, the feeling is that Barlow will play the 1, Brown may get some time, but he is much more of a 2, long term we want to go with Castro, my guess is later in the season Castro will be ready for a larger role.
bobbiemcgee
10-28-2013, 08:10 PM
I posted relevant information about Bluiett's recruitment
Seems Butler already blu it, so why hang out anymore?
So, this is a thread about a young man who is transferring from UCLA's men's basketball team? Wow, he better hurry up and make a decision because this thread has gone waayyy off base.
Agreed that we have lost our way on this thread. While I certainly hope to land an outstanding new recruit, I am trying to remember that most on the board were very upbeat about this recruiting class before this detour (that hopefully has a happy ending). Either way, I love the direction! I will ignore those not worthy of attention.
waggy
10-28-2013, 08:47 PM
Yeah, I can't see getting wrapped up in any particular recruit. You lose more than you win in recruiting. Statistically speaking your going to be bummed more often then you're happy. Silly.
Cheesehead
10-28-2013, 09:00 PM
If Barlow is playing the 1 for Butler then they are in trouble.
Charlesbt4
10-29-2013, 02:20 AM
I have it on good authority that there are no good authorities when it comes to Trevon Blueitt's recruitment.
HuskyMuskie
10-29-2013, 07:54 AM
#BluiettWatch...Day 2
http://www.epiphanysearch.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/panda-watch2.jpg
Xaveriana
10-29-2013, 08:08 AM
Time to Muskie up! 60 percent of the time we work everytime.
BandAid
10-29-2013, 08:20 AM
#BluiettWatch...Day 2
http://www.epiphanysearch.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/panda-watch2.jpg
This really puts it in perspective. Hilarious!
XU 87
10-29-2013, 09:48 AM
I think all things are pointing to him coming to X. But you never know.
casualfan
10-29-2013, 09:54 AM
Adam @G2_Blog 10m
If Bluiett ends up at Michigan State, it'll be because of events that occurred on Saturday when he visited Xavier. That's all for now.
Adam @G2_Blog 7m
Information passed on is current as of that moment ... with some of these recruits, it changes daily - this one is the perfect example.
Charlesbt4
10-29-2013, 09:59 AM
Adam @G2_Blog 10m
If Bluiett ends up at Michigan State, it'll be because of events that occurred on Saturday when he visited Xavier. That's all for now.
Adam @G2_Blog 7m
Information passed on is current as of that moment ... with some of these recruits, it changes daily - this one is the perfect example.
Events that occurred on Saturday? What is this - the Cuban Missile Crisis? This is far, far too dramatic for my tastes.
Muskie
10-29-2013, 10:05 AM
Events that occurred on Saturday? What is this - the Cuban Missile Crisis? This is far, far too dramatic for my tastes.
As far as I know he went to a soccer match that saw X defeat Providence. Maybe that's the event that occurred ? At this point we have people who are just being provocative to be provocative.
paulxu
10-29-2013, 10:07 AM
He met Sister Rose and she advised him that classes would be necessary.
Charlesbt4
10-29-2013, 10:07 AM
As far as I know he went to a soccer match that saw X defeat Providence. Maybe that's the event that occurred ? At this point we have people who are just being provocative to be provocative.
You're probably correct. Everyone is just speculating wildly.
casualfan
10-29-2013, 10:11 AM
As far as I know he went to a soccer match that saw X defeat Providence. Maybe that's the event that occurred ? At this point we have people who are just being provocative to be provocative.
Yeah, who knows although that guys word seems to carry some weight in the recruiting world.
This was the same guy who insinuated he and his father are seeking guarantee playing time. My hope is that Mack told them nothing would be guaranteed.
GoMuskies
10-29-2013, 10:12 AM
As far as I know he went to a soccer match that saw X defeat Providence. Maybe that's the event that occurred ? At this point we have people who are just being provocative to be provocative.
The only downer with not having a football program. This would be kind of a letdown after taking an official to UCLA and going to the Rose Bowl to watch a game. Granted, the soccer game probably drew a huge crowd compared to the football game Memphis would have taken him to on an official visit.
Masterofreality
10-29-2013, 10:20 AM
Events that occurred on Saturday? What is this - the Cuban Missile Crisis? This is far, far too dramatic for my tastes.
Here's what I believe.
The Big East has a rule that you can no longer sign Partial Qualifiers as we did with Mark Lyons for example. What I believe has happened is that the soccer match was a cover. That TB was asked to bring over his high school transcripts for close review to make sure that his classes were in order and that he would fully qualify. This would spare everyone embarrassment if he committed and then was unable to qualify. This would also seem to back up the exasperation of Rey Bluiett that things were a bit out of their hands at this point and they had to wait.
Again. I believe that if XU finds everything in order they will notify TB and he will commit. We will see.
casualfan
10-29-2013, 10:20 AM
The other thing to keep in mind is that this is a two way street. Xavier could have done something to make Bluiett change his mind or it could have been the other way around.
I don't think that is likely, but I have seen schools drop kids after getting a closer look on their official visit.
Like I said I doubt that is the case since Xavier has known him since 8th grade, but an official visit does give the school a chance to see a kid in a more relaxed environment. The kid is not the only one evaluating on those visits.
Charlesbt4
10-29-2013, 10:21 AM
Here's what I believe.
The Big East has a rule that you can no longer sign Partial Qualifiers as we did with Mark Lyons for example. What I believe has happened is that the soccer match was a cover. That TB was asked to bring over his high school transcripts for close review to make sure that his classes were in order and that he would fully qualify. This would spare everyone embarrassment if he committed and then was unable to qualify. This would also seem to back up the exasperation of Rey Bluiett that things were a bit out of their hands at this point and they had to wait.
Again. I believe that if XU finds everything in order they will notify TB and he will commit. We will see.
You may, in fact, be entirely correct. However, why wouldn't this have been handled earlier?
Masterofreality
10-29-2013, 10:23 AM
You may, in fact, be entirely correct. However, why wouldn't this have been handled earlier?
Always the last step in a process.
casualfan
10-29-2013, 10:23 AM
Here's what I believe.
The Big East has a rule that you can no longer sign Partial Qualifiers as we did with Mark Lyons for example. What I believe has happened is that the soccer match was a cover. That TB was asked to bring over his high school transcripts for close review to make sure that his classes were in order and that he would fully qualify. This would spare everyone embarrassment if he committed and then was unable to qualify. This would also seem to back up the exasperation of Rey Bluiett that things were a bit out of their hands at this point and they had to wait.
Again. I believe that if XU finds everything in order they will notify TB and he will commit. We will see.
Beat me to it. I didn't think of the transcript specifically, but that would make a whole lot of sense.
The only thing is that Mack has never been shy about taking academic risks if the talent is there. I'm not sure why he would start now especially since taking Bluiett is a luxury.
Masterofreality
10-29-2013, 10:25 AM
Beat me to it. I didn't think of the transcript specifically, but that would make a whole lot of sense.
The only thing is that Mack has never been shy about taking academic risks if the talent is there. I'm not sure why he would start now especially since taking Bluiett is a luxury.
Because of the Big East partial qualifier rule.
paulxu
10-29-2013, 10:28 AM
On 247 Sports I do not see a listing where he ever took an "official" visit to Xavier. When did this occur?
On another board, someone pointed out that Park Tudor where he attends is a very tough school academically, so hopefully grades would not be an issue.
casualfan
10-29-2013, 10:29 AM
Because of the Big East partial qualifier rule.
Right, but what is the downside in taking Bluiett even if he is a risk to qualify?
It's not like we have a bunch of spots to fill and are recruiting a bunch of other '14 guys.
If he qualifies great. Someone gets asked to leave to make room. If he doesn't qualify no worse for the wear. It's not like they're missing out on other guys because they took him.
Like I said, with the roster situation taking him is a luxury not a need.
On a related note:
Chris @CopeMoney 24m
@G2_Blog can we expand on that??
Adam @G2_Blog 24m
@CopeMoney will do so when decision is made/revealed
Sounds like we'll know what apparently happened once he commits.
bobbiemcgee
10-29-2013, 10:32 AM
Park Tudor has a 100% college acceptance rate.
No idea what is occurring here, but if it's academics, that would be shocking. Park Tudor is a really good prep school in Indy, and it didn't sound like Bluiett was struggling there. Not sure I buy that there may be an issue with his transcript, though I could be wrong.
casualfan
10-29-2013, 10:35 AM
No idea what is occurring here, but if it's academics, that would be shocking. Park Tudor is really good prep school in Indy, and it didn't sound like Bluiett was struggling there. Not sure I buy that there may be an issue with his transcript, though I could be wrong.
I don't think it's academics. It would make 0 sense to me to walk away from a prospect this highly rated given the circumstances even if he did have academic issues.
Masterofreality
10-29-2013, 10:37 AM
Park Tudor has a 100% college acceptance rate.
What is Notre Dame Preps rate?
Can't be too careful.
Charlesbt4
10-29-2013, 10:38 AM
Posters on Michigan State 247 are speculating (emphasis added) that perhaps it's something he did while on campus. This is just bizarre.
Olsingledigit
10-29-2013, 10:41 AM
Park Tudor has a 100% college acceptance rate.
Bobbie is right. Almost zero chance it would be a problem with the school. Only thing it could be is a problem with the student. Outside chance Park Tudor didn't give him the right chances but that is slim to none with that school.
nuts4xu
10-29-2013, 10:42 AM
Maybe he felt like he wanted to take his time and be absolutely sure this time. He committed to UCLA once and had to back off, there is a very good chance the kid just wanted to take all these visits, and then let all the information he has "sink in" before he announces his official decision.
Or he could be trying to figure out some sort of grand way he makes his announcement to come to Xavier. Maybe he will work with Snipe to contract a plane with a banner, and fly it over the Mich St game this weekend telling Sparty fans everywhere Izzo has no integrity.
Charlesbt4
10-29-2013, 10:44 AM
Do you remember the good old days when these kids were in it to, you know, actually play basketball?
casualfan
10-29-2013, 10:58 AM
More fuel to add to the fire:
Jerry Meyer @jerrymeyer247 13m
Think it was Xavier. Didn't happen. Now leaning Michigan State. RT @msuberndog: @jerrymeyer247 You thinking Trevon Bluiett to #MSU?
casualfan
10-29-2013, 11:03 AM
Adam @G2_Blog 12m
@Jim_Kerr23 @Xhoopsmaven no excuses, will explain when decision is made - info has been confirmed through independent sources
paulxu
10-29-2013, 11:08 AM
OK, I'll try again. Did we ever have an "official" visit for this kid and his family?
cheeba
10-29-2013, 11:12 AM
He took an unofficial visit Saturday. Apparently he was at the soccer game, he has a friend on the team. He has taken previous official visits.
Charlesbt4
10-29-2013, 11:12 AM
Adam @G2_Blog 12m
@Jim_Kerr23 @Xhoopsmaven no excuses, will explain when decision is made - info has been confirmed through independent sources
Suddenly, we didn't like the cut of his jib?
casualfan
10-29-2013, 11:13 AM
MSU writer now saying he heard same rumors of issue at Xavier and that it had nothing to do with Bluiett getting in trouble or doing something wrong.
HuskyMuskie
10-29-2013, 11:24 AM
So if you have to make a Mt. Rushmore of bizarre Xavier recruitments--does Bluiett make the list!?!
LA Muskie
10-29-2013, 11:28 AM
Here's what I believe.
The Big East has a rule that you can no longer sign Partial Qualifiers as we did with Mark Lyons for example. What I believe has happened is that the soccer match was a cover. That TB was asked to bring over his high school transcripts for close review to make sure that his classes were in order and that he would fully qualify. This would spare everyone embarrassment if he committed and then was unable to qualify. This would also seem to back up the exasperation of Rey Bluiett that things were a bit out of their hands at this point and they had to wait.
Again. I believe that if XU finds everything in order they will notify TB and he will commit. We will see.
Nice try but unlikely. The BiG doesn't allow non-qualifiers either.
Charlesbt4
10-29-2013, 11:28 AM
To be honest, I don't care what the alleged events were on Saturday, even if it was on Xavier's end. If Bluiett opts to go elsewhere, it will not be because Xavier did not try hard enough and/or put its best foot forward. I feel as if since the start of his recruitment, Bluiett and/or someone in his camp has been looking for reasons for him not to come to Xavier. If you look long enough and hard enough at any school, you will find them.
LA Muskie
10-29-2013, 11:29 AM
On 247 Sports I do not see a listing where he ever took an "official" visit to Xavier. When did this occur?
On another board, someone pointed out that Park Tudor where he attends is a very tough school academically, so hopefully grades would not be an issue.
He had never taken an official visit.
casualfan
10-29-2013, 11:30 AM
Nice try but unlikely. The BiG doesn't allow non-qualifiers either.
No one allows partial qualifiers anymore because they technically don't exist. The NCAA removed the prop 48 or whatever the rule was regarding partial qualifiers. Now according to the rules you either qualify or you don't.
In reality guys like Myles and Jalen and even Shaq Thomas at sUCks fit the profile of a partial qualifier in that they were allowed to enroll at school, but had to sit out a year.
In summary partial qualifiers either exist or they don't :).
bleedXblue
10-29-2013, 11:33 AM
So we've recruited this kid for over a year and have now decided for whatever reason to back away? Seems very, very odd.
I hate to speculate, but I will anyway. I wonder if the kids Dad has anything to do with it? He seems overly involved and maybe Mack and staff have just had enough.
LA Muskie
10-29-2013, 11:33 AM
He took an unofficial visit Saturday. Apparently he was at the soccer game, he has a friend on the team. He has taken previous official visits.
Yes on Saturday. No on previous "official visits". First there can't possibly be multiple officials to one school. Second he hasn't taken any officials to XU. But he's been on campus a lot as the staff has been in on him since 8th grade. The lack of an official visit is meaningless since he lives less than 2 hours away.
casualfan
10-29-2013, 11:34 AM
So we've recruited this kid for over a year and have now decided for whatever reason to back away? Seems very, very odd.
.
I don't think we're the ones backing away.
EDIT: To that point:
@G2_Blog: How players and coaches interact when recruits are watching practice can have an impact.
LA Muskie
10-29-2013, 11:36 AM
No one allows partial qualifiers anymore because they technically don't exist. The NCAA removed the prop 48 or whatever the rule was regarding partial qualifiers. Now according to the rules you either qualify or you don't.
In reality guys like Myles and Jalen and even Shaq Thomas at sUCks fit the profile of a partial qualifier in that they were allowed to enroll at school, but had to sit out a year.
In summary partial qualifiers either exist or they don't :).
That's why I didn't use the term "partial qualifiers". Most BCS conferences -- and the Big East -- don't allow NON-QUALIFIERS. If you don't qualify out of HS you can't play at a conference school. Ever. That is not an A-10 rule, hence the fact that we could recruit those types of players. We can't anymore. But either can MSU. So qualifying status is almost certainly not the issue.
ArizonaXUGrad
10-29-2013, 11:38 AM
Is that twitter feed from Zagoria? Who is the Adam guy?
casualfan
10-29-2013, 11:42 AM
If you don't qualify out of HS you can't play at a conference school. Ever. .
That's not true. If you don't qualify out of high school you can still do a prep year or go juco and then play at a conference school.
Chalmers0
10-29-2013, 11:46 AM
So if you have to make a Mt. Rushmore of bizarre Xavier recruitments--does Bluiett make the list!?!
Nope, I don't even consider his recruitment "bizarre." I think the only people making it bizarre are fans and the various media members and people at 247. People really just need to take a step back and let the kid made a decision.
LA Muskie
10-29-2013, 11:52 AM
That's not true. If you don't qualify out of high school you can still do a prep year or go juco and then play at a conference school.
That is true. My bad for oversimplifying. But you can't attend as a non-schollie frosh and play as a sophomore.
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Xavier Nation
10-29-2013, 11:56 AM
I don't think we're the ones backing away.
EDIT: To that point:
@G2_Blog: How players and coaches interact when recruits are watching practice can have an impact.
Huh? How does this guy, or anyone, know what happened in a practice. If this is why he does not commit I am really confused.
jhelmes37
10-29-2013, 02:19 PM
This isn't bizarre at all. If Twitter wasn't around, we wouldn't hear squat. It's a sign of the times. Nothing is behind closed doors any more.
Bulldawg
10-29-2013, 02:43 PM
If Barlow is playing the 1 for Butler then they are in trouble.
Like I said, we are going to be awful. Trevon's commitment won't help a ton, but by then Butler will have Jones back to carry the load as the ball handler so Trevon can play the 3.
gladdenguy
10-29-2013, 06:30 PM
Like I said, we are going to be awful. Trevon's commitment won't help a ton, but by then Butler will have Jones back to carry the load as the ball handler so Trevon can play the 3.
Trevon who? Your commitments are Kelan Martin and Tyler Wideman.......nobody with the first name Trevon is committing to Butler.
ArizonaXUGrad
10-29-2013, 07:24 PM
Like I said, we are going to be awful. Trevon's commitment won't help a ton, but by then Butler will have Jones back to carry the load as the ball handler so Trevon can play the 3.
Why is Jones your primary ball handler? He plays the 3, unless he is Scotty Pippen 2.0 you are probably in trouble.
LA Muskie
10-29-2013, 08:29 PM
Trevon who? Your commitments are Kelan Martin and Tyler Wideman.......nobody with the first name Trevon is committing to Butler.
I think his point was that even if Trevon committed to Butler, they still wouldn't be very good. Bulldawg has been nothing but civil in these parts; let's treat him accordingly.
Masterofreality
10-29-2013, 08:39 PM
I think his point was that even if Trevon committed to Butler, they still wouldn't be very good. Bulldawg has been nothing but civil in these parts; let's treat him accordingly.
Hear Hear!
bobbiemcgee
10-29-2013, 08:41 PM
Jerry Meyer @jerrymeyer247 1h
Just got word from @FeelDaPaign that Xavier assistant visited Trevon Bluiett today.
SixFig
10-29-2013, 09:04 PM
Jerry Meyer @jerrymeyer247 1h
Just got word from @FeelDaPaign that Xavier assistant visited Trevon Bluiett today.
Just another installment of "As The Blueitt Turns"
GoMuskies
10-29-2013, 09:43 PM
"Coach isn't usually like that...."
GoMuskies
10-29-2013, 09:44 PM
At what point in history did anything that comes after this statement become credible? "Just got word from @FeelDaPaign"...
gladdenguy
10-29-2013, 10:30 PM
I think his point was that even if Trevon committed to Butler, they still wouldn't be very good. Bulldawg has been nothing but civil in these parts; let's treat him accordingly.
Well it would have been smart to put the "even if" like you did. I was really confused. Not trying to be a dick but Butler has ZERO shot at Trevon Blueitt.
XUFan09
10-29-2013, 10:45 PM
At what point in history did anything that comes after this statement become credible? "Just got word from @FeelDaPaign"...
Haha awesome.
Charlesbt4
10-29-2013, 11:05 PM
I'm of the opinion that unless Chris Mack pulled a Mike Rice, there's no interaction between he and one of his players that could have suddenly changed Bluiett's mind regarding Xavier. If Bluiett opts to go elsewhere, it will be because he and/or one of his handlers sought out something to not like about the university. As far as I know, Mack stopped making players wear the gimp suit a long, long time ago.
Xaveriana
10-29-2013, 11:10 PM
This saga is driving me to drink Bluiett Bourbon.
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5495/10567642693_98113f0a63_o.jpg
He may not be interested in XU because his name is misspelled on this thread. :shocked:
Masterofreality
10-30-2013, 08:26 AM
At what point in history did anything that comes after this statement become credible? "Just got word from @FeelDaPaign"...
Well, you can diss all you want but he's apparently pretty credible...although more connected with Illinois, he does have info regarding the Big 10.
There is a blossoming group of current students at Universities that have recruiting blogs...and many times, because they are actually on campus, they have very current info fed to them from graduate assistants, managers and the like. FeeldaPaign is an Ilini grad living in Tennessee, but he still has Illini/Big 10 sources and is connected with 247...and 247 has been not been irresponsible, in fact very good.
In any event, I'm glad that Travis made another trip over there....hopefully with a duffel bag of cash! (JUST KIDDING!)
SpectorJersey
10-30-2013, 08:56 AM
Brian Snow I think trumps anyone on this recruitment as far as updates. Brian lives in Indy and seems to be getting the info from Trevons dad.
Charlesbt4
10-30-2013, 09:03 AM
Brian Snow I think trumps anyone on this recruitment as far as updates. Brian lives in Indy and seems to be getting the info from Trevons dad.
Without divulging details, would you say that the information is for or against Xavier?
bobbiemcgee
10-30-2013, 09:37 AM
In any event, I'm glad that Travis made another trip over there....hopefully with a duffel bag of cash!
He should just drive the XU bus over there and sleep in the school parking lot.
GoMuskies
10-30-2013, 09:43 AM
Well, you can diss all you want
I didn't diss even a little. Just read literally, the statment that a recruiting "expert" is getting an update from FeelDaPaign is objectively hilarious to me. For all I know FDP could be Barrack Obama. FDP's actual identity doesn't change how objectively ridiculous that sentence sounds.
bobbiemcgee
10-30-2013, 10:16 AM
Only thing I got out of it was that Xavier was back on his campus.
Xavier Nation
10-30-2013, 10:44 AM
Borzello just changed his crystal ball pick to X. Excuse me while I wait for the freak out on the Michigan State board. By the way, Borzello is almost always right.
Milhouse
10-30-2013, 10:50 AM
Without divulging details, would you say that the information is for or against Xavier?
No better time to sign up for Scout than this week. Just give it a free trial.
XUmeat
10-30-2013, 10:53 AM
Borzello just changed his crystal ball pick to X. Excuse me while I wait for the freak out on the Michigan State board. By the way, Borzello is almost always right.
I noticed he updated too, so I asked him on Twitter if there was a reason he changed. He responded he did not change, he has had Xavier the whole time.
Aside from Borzello, anyone that has updated their pick in the last week has MSU. If you trust this tool, the writing is on the wall.... fortunately this recruitment can and has turned quickly
Charlesbt4
10-30-2013, 10:55 AM
No better time to sign up for Scout than this week. Just give it a free trial.
I previously had a membership to Scout and, with the utmost confidence, can say it was worth the money. The information those gentlemen provide is second to none. Unfortunately, I'm currently in the process of starting two companies and, quite literally, every penny I have is spoken for.
Sparty
10-30-2013, 02:46 PM
Anybody have any idea when Bluiett may announce? I'm hearing either today or tomorrow we should get an announcement via twitter but I haven't heard anything too definitive. Sounds like Xavier or MSU with no clear leader.
muskiefan82
10-30-2013, 02:58 PM
Clearly, he will be splitting the difference and going to Findlay College.
Titanxman04
10-30-2013, 02:59 PM
Clearly, he will be splitting the difference and going to Findlay College.
Fear the Oilers.
Titanxman04
10-30-2013, 03:00 PM
Anybody have any idea when Bluiett may announce? I'm hearing either today or tomorrow we should get an announcement via twitter but I haven't heard anything too definitive. Sounds like Xavier or MSU with no clear leader.
I'm hearing different in terms of time-table.
xudash
10-30-2013, 03:06 PM
I'm hearing different in terms of time-table.
Meaning longer than tomorrow!
It's his life and their process, but this saga now lies somewhere between being cautious and careful about a decision and being so wrapped around a mental pole that they're frozen and can't call the ball.
Absolutely time not to think about this anymore.
Bulldawg
10-30-2013, 03:37 PM
Well it would have been smart to put the "even if" like you did. I was really confused. Not trying to be a dick but Butler has ZERO shot at Trevon Blueitt.
That's what really sucks considering we've been after him for two years. And to answer the question about Roosevelt Jones being our ball handler, he's got very good skills handling the ball and getting it up the court, but he is most definitely a 3 and not a 1, so like I've been saying Butler is pretty much screwed for the next few years until this current freshman class breaks out.
OTRMUSKIE
10-30-2013, 03:59 PM
Good article about him here.
http://www.theonlycolors.com/2013/10/30/5044884/msu-basketball-recruiting-2014-fall-endgame
Xavier Nation
10-30-2013, 10:13 PM
State News Sports @thesnews_sports
Rivals No. 45 2014 basketball prospect Trevon Bluiett will be making his college decision Friday. MSU among his top choices.
No clue if they are reliable, but they do have good amount of followers.
Musketeer_15
10-30-2013, 10:14 PM
Supposedly he is making his decision on Friday
bobbiemcgee
10-30-2013, 10:29 PM
Looks like a lot of the 247 guys who jumped to msu yesterday are back to X now. Absurd.
Xavier Nation
10-30-2013, 10:34 PM
Am I only one reading MSU board?
Yesterday: Hey guys the crystal ball projections have all moved to MSU! Looks like he is going to be in the green and white! They are never wrong!
As of 2 hours ago: Everyone is changing there pick back to X?! It okay though, they have no idea what they are talking about!
http://michiganstate.247sports.com/Board/95/14-IN-SF-Trevon-Bluiett-Michigan-State-offer--22079008/20
danaandvictory
10-30-2013, 10:41 PM
This crystal ball absurdity is a new thing, right? Or is this just the first major prospect we've been involved with since 24/7 started this nonsense?
My crystal ball says at some point in the next 24 hours I will poop. Now, that timeline is subject to change and the situation is fluid (hopefully not), but that's the status right now.
MADXSTER
10-30-2013, 10:47 PM
This crystal ball absurdity is a new thing, right? Or is this just the first major prospect we've been involved with since 24/7 started this nonsense?
My crystal ball says at some point in the next 24 hours I will poop. Now, that timeline is subject to change and the situation is fluid (hopefully not), but that's the status right now.
I too believe that danaandvictory will poop in the next 24 hours.
danaandvictory
10-30-2013, 10:49 PM
I too believe that danaandvictory will poop in the next 24 hours.
I had Indian food for lunch. I mean, this is a lock. In fact, I'm ready to give my verbal commitment. I want to thank my parents and all who assisted in this decision.
Charlesbt4
10-30-2013, 11:02 PM
I had Indian food for lunch. I mean, this is a lock. In fact, I'm ready to give my verbal commitment. I want to thank my parents and all who assisted in this decision.
Shit, this made me laugh.
xudash
10-31-2013, 12:29 AM
I had Indian food for lunch. I mean, this is a lock. In fact, I'm ready to give my verbal commitment. I want to thank my parents and all who assisted in this decision.
Finally.
Something with a certain outcome.
Something with a certain outcome with badly needed humor attached.
------------------------------|
So it's to be Friday. Or it's rumored that it is expected to be Friday, based on certain things that were shared with certain people that led to certain other people sharing it on the World Wide Web.
The good news is that all this is very much like certain kinds of physics experiments, in terms of understanding that such experiments lead to very specific outcomes; outcomes that can be reasonably timed. I am certain I am qualified to share that piece of information, as my undergraduate degree is a BSBA in Accounting.
But I digress.
The point? This "thing" - this "deal" or "drama" or "recruitment" - whatever it means to any one person now, this episode in the life of Xavier basketball is heading towards a conclusion by its own weight. Whether careful or confused, the family must be at a point by now of wanting this over. They have to be weary. They've clearly talked this through to the point of being blue in the face. They probably look forward to the relief that will come with pulling the trigger.
I hope this young man comes to Xavier. I really do. I believe he can win a National Championship at Xavier. He'll be involved in the school's flagship sport, with great teammates and a great coaching staff. But, like most here, I know that Xavier will be fine moving forward if he chooses to go elsewhere.
If he chooses to go elsewhere, then good luck to him. He appears to be a deserving student-athlete.
And with that, we wait for the test tube to bring its Indian Food to boil (probably not a sanctioned experiment in Xavier's physics department).
I approve of both danaandvictory's lunch choice and dash's comments. Very well said.
Ledgewood
10-31-2013, 07:43 AM
The MSU board is HIGHLY entertaining. I'd never post on antoher team's board, but reading theirs has been just wonderful for that thread alone. A few guys on there over-speculate every "source" bit of info that comes out, one guy last night insinuated that Chris Mack pays players, and one guy said that there is "exactly 0 schools in the country that offer as good of an opportunity for elite talent as Michigan State does for the 14-15 season." And yeah, as soon as that crystal ball thing shifts in any direction the reactions are great. They go from "Of course he was going to come here" to questioning his/Xavier's character back to rejoice to dismay quite often. I know all message boards have come to exist for the sole purpose of hyperbole and comical exaggeration, but I've been having a great time with this whole thing.
Juice
10-31-2013, 08:31 AM
The MSU board is HIGHLY entertaining. I'd never post on antoher team's board, but reading theirs has been just wonderful for that thread alone. A few guys on there over-speculate every "source" bit of info that comes out, one guy last night insinuated that Chris Mack pays players, and one guy said that there is "exactly 0 schools in the country that offer as good of an opportunity for elite talent as Michigan State does for the 14-15 season." And yeah, as soon as that crystal ball thing shifts in any direction the reactions are great. They go from "Of course he was going to come here" to questioning his/Xavier's character back to rejoice to dismay quite often. I know all message boards have come to exist for the soul purpose of hyperbole and comical exaggeration, but I've been having a great time with this whole thing.
I'm going to need a link. That sounds awesome. There is nothing better than a fan base that loves the smell of their own farts.
Titanxman04
10-31-2013, 08:35 AM
I'm going to need a link. That sounds awesome. There is nothing better than a fan base that loves the smell of their own farts.
http://michiganstate.247sports.com/Board/95/14-IN-SF-Trevon-Bluiett-Michigan-State-offer--22079008/21
Milhouse
10-31-2013, 08:45 AM
Haha MSU board is hilarious. Yeah how could anyone ever possibly turn down MSU? No school offers a better opportunity? UK is quite literally a pipeline to the NBA. 10000x more exposure than the D League....
I'm still a fan of Butler's board too. One poster in particular saying how they'll never get out of our shadow and such. The sky is falling all over the place!!!!!
danaandvictory
10-31-2013, 08:56 AM
Sorry guys but I'm reopening my recruitment.
Ledgewood
10-31-2013, 08:58 AM
Sorry guys but I'm reopening my recruitment.
Currently updating my crystal ball...
Titanxman04
10-31-2013, 09:12 AM
Sorry guys but I'm reopening my recruitment.
Whats it going to take to get you to rock the green and white? My law firm has the perfect spot for you.
GuyFawkes38
10-31-2013, 09:23 AM
The whole idea that a recruit would take his offers, rank the schools by Bball prestige and go to the highest one is absurd. There are so many other important considerations (playing time, coaching style, relationship with coach, location of school, etc).
Tardy Turtle
10-31-2013, 09:37 AM
Sorry guys but I'm reopening my recruitment.
Most Esteemed D&V,
Please come to Pankot Palace! We shall do the needful to feed you very good!
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danaandvictory
10-31-2013, 09:46 AM
OOOOOOOOOOOH INDEEEEEEEEEE WHAT'S THAT THING?
God I hate Kate Capshaw.
bobbiemcgee
10-31-2013, 10:06 AM
Sorry guys but I'm reopening my recruitment.
Thai food is @ 66% today.
danaandvictory
10-31-2013, 10:20 AM
Here's the thing about all of this.
The day-to-day obsession with recruiting is basically equivalent to the "horse race" coverage of politics. It's the Tweet of the day, the most recent visit, the pronouncement of an expert, etc. This 24/7 "crystal ball" is the same thing as the daily tracking polls, which I think Nate Silver demonstrated in '08, '10, and '12 are more or less worthless. There isn't in 99% of cases hour-to-hour news.
And in fact, the crystal ball is even more worthless. We're not trying to predict the behavior of millions of people who act based upon historical, racial, social, gender-based, etc. patterns. Instead, it's an attempt to divine the decision-making process of one teenager, every one of whom is in the middle of a completely distinct world of geography, family, AAU handlers, high school coaches, etc. As Fawkes notes above, every kid has a different calculus. "I like the campus" "I want to be close to home" "This assistant is a good guy and a mentor of mine" and, every once in a while "this school has the academic program I want" or "that school has the prettiest colors" or "my girlfriend is going there (heart)"
I think people should take the 24/7 stuff for what it is - a kind of fun exercise - but I question whether there's any insight there at all.
Here's the thing about all of this.
The day-to-day obsession with recruiting is basically equivalent to the "horse race" coverage of politics. It's the Tweet of the day, the most recent visit, the pronouncement of an expert, etc. This 24/7 "crystal ball" is the same thing as the daily tracking polls, which I think Nate Silver demonstrated in '08, '10, and '12 are more or less worthless. There isn't in 99% of cases hour-to-hour news.
And in fact, the crystal ball is even more worthless. We're not trying to predict the behavior of millions of people who act based upon historical, racial, social, gender-based, etc. patterns. Instead, it's an attempt to divine the decision-making process of one teenager, every one of whom is in the middle of a completely distinct world of geography, family, AAU handlers, high school coaches, etc. As Fawkes notes above, every kid has a different calculus. "I like the campus" "I want to be close to home" "This assistant is a good guy and a mentor of mine" and, every once in a while "this school has the academic program I want" or "that school has the prettiest colors" or "my girlfriend is going there (heart)"
I think people should take the 24/7 stuff for what it is - a kind of fun exercise - but I question whether there's any insight there at all.
True words.
And I think the basis for some of this "crystal ball" nonsense is that some of these writers or (more appropriately) tweeters are fed "inside" information from a host of sources that are either unreliable or too removed from the situation to provide anything worthwile. But in an effort to be an authoritative source that is also first to report, they run with whatever they get, and conjure drama when they have to backtrack. Though the crystal ball stuff is largely premised on personal prediction, it is also done so based on a lot of junk information just wafting in the effluvia.
Xman95
10-31-2013, 12:28 PM
Most Esteemed D&V,
Please come to Pankot Palace! We shall do the needful to feed you very good!
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Warmest Regards,
Majarajah Zalim Singh
OOOOOOOOOOOH INDEEEEEEEEEE WHAT'S THAT THING?
God I hate Kate Capshaw.
As the Indiana Jones films are my favorite, these two posts had me laughing my ass off. Shocking because Tardy is never funny. (haha...hope all is well, buddy!)
muskiefan82
10-31-2013, 05:08 PM
As the Indiana Jones films are my favorite, these two posts had me laughing my ass off. Shocking because Tardy is never funny. (haha...hope all is well, buddy!)
You have chosen.....wisely.
danaandvictory
10-31-2013, 05:34 PM
Raiders might be my favorite movie ever.
Last Crusade is top ten.
Temple of Doom has Kate Capshaw and Short-Round and thus is a failure despite several awesome scenes.
Crystal Skull never happened. YOU HEAR ME, IT NEVER HAPPENED. Trying to pass off Shia Laboeuf as the successor to Harrison Ford AND Marlon Brando? NOT IN THIS MAN'S AMERICA.
danaandvictory
10-31-2013, 05:36 PM
Also, those of you fretting about Bluiett, have no fear.
Travis Steele has got a two day head start on Izzo, which is more than he needs. He's got friends in every town and village from here to Indianapolis, he speaks a dozen languages, knows every local custom, he'll blend in, disappear, you'll never see him again. With any luck, he's got Bluiett already.
XUFan09
10-31-2013, 06:01 PM
Also, those of you fretting about Bluiett, have no fear.
Travis Steele has got a two day head start on Izzo, which is more than he needs. He's got friends in every town and village from here to Indianapolis, he speaks a dozen languages, knows every local custom, he'll blend in, disappear, you'll never see him again. With any luck, he's got Bluiett already.
Haha awesome.
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SixFig
10-31-2013, 06:36 PM
Also, those of you fretting about Bluiett, have no fear.
Travis Steele has got a two day head start on Izzo, which is more than he needs. He's got friends in every town and village from here to Indianapolis, he speaks a dozen languages, knows every local custom, he'll blend in, disappear, you'll never see him again. With any luck, he's got Bluiett already.
Public reps
Cheesehead
10-31-2013, 07:34 PM
I am going to use my mind control on Bluiett.......and so it is done.
Also, those of you fretting about Bluiett, have no fear.
Travis Steele has got a two day head start on Izzo, which is more than he needs. He's got friends in every town and village from here to Indianapolis, he speaks a dozen languages, knows every local custom, he'll blend in, disappear, you'll never see him again. With any luck, he's got Bluiett already.
Are you kidding me? Steele once got lost in his own gym.
Musketeer_15
10-31-2013, 09:03 PM
8:44 PM CollegeRecruiting @InsideBBRecruit: A source has confirmed that Trevon Bluiett will announce his commitment to the Xavier Musketeers tomorrow at Park Tudor High School.
I have no idea what source he/she is talking about but lets hope this is true!
paulxu
10-31-2013, 09:14 PM
A source has confirmed
Well, that settles it then.
Musketeer_15
10-31-2013, 09:22 PM
Well, that settles it then.
The source is probably one of Chris Broussard's...
xudash
10-31-2013, 09:48 PM
The source is probably one of Chris Broussard's...
I lost track of all this a number of posts ago. Is that a good or bad thing?
Musketeer_15
10-31-2013, 09:56 PM
I lost track of all this a number of posts ago. Is that a good or bad thing?
It was a joke in reference to when Lebron was a free agent. Chris Broussard would be on ESPN every night saying how his "sources" are reporting that Lebron is gonna sign with a team and it was a different team every day
LadyMuskie
10-31-2013, 09:58 PM
Raiders might be my favorite movie ever.
Last Crusade is top ten.
Temple of Doom has Kate Capshaw and Short-Round and thus is a failure despite several awesome scenes.
Crystal Skull never happened. YOU HEAR ME, IT NEVER HAPPENED. Trying to pass off Shia Laboeuf as the successor to Harrison Ford AND Marlon Brando? NOT IN THIS MAN'S AMERICA.
Preach it!
xudash
10-31-2013, 10:09 PM
It was a joke in reference to when Lebron was a free agent. Chris Broussard would be on ESPN every night saying how his "sources" are reporting that Lebron is gonna sign with a team and it was a different team every day
A "bad" thing it would be then, were the joke to be proven true. Thanks.
Cheesehead
10-31-2013, 10:55 PM
Well, you are all welcome.
maketewahXalum
11-01-2013, 08:18 AM
No better time to sign up for Scout than this week. Just give it a free trial.
Hi guys, new member here. I have read the board for a while, but never posted. Anyways, is there a way to do free trial on Scout, without having to give your credit card information and select one of the three subscription options?
ammtd34
11-01-2013, 08:37 AM
Hi guys, new member here. I have read the board for a while, but never posted. Anyways, is there a way to do free trial on Scout, without having to give your credit card information and select one of the three subscription options?
I don't think so, but if you cancel after 6.5 days, your card shouldn't be charged.
Titanxman04
11-01-2013, 08:39 AM
Hi guys, new member here. I have read the board for a while, but never posted. Anyways, is there a way to do free trial on Scout, without having to give your credit card information and select one of the three subscription options?
Welcome to the board. I jsut signed up on scout. It's 100% worth the money.
maketewahXalum
11-01-2013, 09:02 AM
Welcome to the board. I just signed up on scout. It's 100% worth the money.
Thank you, Titanman. What is the main thing you like about Scout? Is it the stories you get to read, the forums? In essence, what is the biggest selling point to you about being a member?
RealDeal
11-01-2013, 09:08 AM
Maybe we could start another thread about scout, so I don't have to click on this one thinking there's news on Blueitt?
danaandvictory
11-01-2013, 09:19 AM
He's announcing today. Many tweeters are saying he will select Xavier.
Evan Sidery @ESidery 1h
Just spoke to source, as many other media have confirmed, Bluiett will be announcing he is committing to Xavier today. Major get for Xavier.
Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN 11h
Xavier. @JKBELL_9: @GoodmanESPN where do you think Bluiett will end up?
Tardy Turtle
11-01-2013, 09:28 AM
Also, those of you fretting about Bluiett, have no fear.
Travis Steele has got a two day head start on Izzo, which is more than he needs. He's got friends in every town and village from here to Indianapolis, he speaks a dozen languages, knows every local custom, he'll blend in, disappear, you'll never see him again. With any luck, he's got Bluiett already.
Does anyone here speak English? Or even ancient Greek?
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CinciX12
11-01-2013, 09:45 AM
I'm watching the wrong videos or something. I don't know what I'm missing but the kid doesn't make my jaw drop by any means.
paulxu
11-01-2013, 09:58 AM
In the video on the Verbal Commits site I did see a couple of things I really liked:
- smooth outside shot (looked like 12-15 feet)
- able to finish with off-hand on drive
- the best was quick catch/release in paint. No screwing around putting the ball on floor or hesitating. Just catch and shoot.
ammtd34
11-01-2013, 10:00 AM
I'm watching the wrong videos or something. I don't know what I'm missing but the kid doesn't make my jaw drop by any means.
Other than unlimited range, a quick release, and being 6'5" with the ability to create space for himself, there isn't much.
Charlesbt4
11-01-2013, 10:04 AM
I'm watching the wrong videos or something. I don't know what I'm missing but the kid doesn't make my jaw drop by any means.
That may be because rather than throwing down dunks, this kid actually practices the fundamentals of the game. He makes scoring look incredibly easy, and he does it in a multitude of ways.
CinciX12
11-01-2013, 10:08 AM
He just looked so raw down low that I'm not 100% confident our coaching staff is the crew to get the maximum potential out of him. Don't get me wrong, the potential is obvious and I'd be thrilled to have him. I just am hesitant to assume any longer that our staff develops post play very well.
casualfan
11-01-2013, 10:10 AM
He just looked so raw down low that I'm not 100% confident our coaching staff is the crew to get the maximum potential out of him. Don't get me wrong, the potential is obvious and I'd be thrilled to have him. I just am hesitant to assume any longer that our staff develops post play very well.
Um, he's a wing.
CinciX12
11-01-2013, 10:13 AM
Um, he's a wing.
I don't think he is much of anything. I know he is going to play the 3.
I look at him and get worried and start thinking of Jeff Robinson for some reason.
Xavier Nation
11-01-2013, 10:13 AM
He just looked so raw down low that I'm not 100% confident our coaching staff is the crew to get the maximum potential out of him. Don't get me wrong, the potential is obvious and I'd be thrilled to have him. I just am hesitant to assume any longer that our staff develops post play very well.
Huh? He is a 3. Not going to be down low.
ammtd34
11-01-2013, 10:14 AM
I don't think he is much of anything. I know he is going to play the 3.
I look at him and get worried and start thinking of Jeff Robinson for some reason.
What?
RealDeal
11-01-2013, 10:16 AM
I look at him and get worried and start thinking of Jeff Robinson for some reason.
I think the reason is that you don't know shit about college basketball.
Charlesbt4
11-01-2013, 10:17 AM
I think the reason is that you don't know shit about college basketball.
Well, at least someone had the courage to say it.
CinciX12
11-01-2013, 10:20 AM
Yes, because if anything the last few years have proven it is to blindly trust our staff with the development of players.
I don't think the kid amounts to much. I'm entitled to my opinion just like you are all entitled to make me remember what I said later on.
casualfan
11-01-2013, 10:22 AM
I do have some concerns with Bluiett, specifically his foot speed an ability to defend, but I don't know how you can say he's not going to be much of anything.
The kid is about as pure a shooter as it gets.
ammtd34
11-01-2013, 10:22 AM
Yes, because if anything the last few years have proven it is to blindly trust our staff with the development of players.
I don't think the kid amounts to much. I'm entitled to my opinion just like you are all entitled to make me remember what I said later on.
You are entitled to your opinion, but I'd find that opinion suspect if you see Jeff Robinson in this kid's game. That just doesn't make any sense.
RealDeal
11-01-2013, 10:23 AM
There are lots of 6'5" post players this staff failed to develop over the last few years, great point. Keep them coming.
Titanxman04
11-01-2013, 10:24 AM
There are lots of 6'5" post players this staff failed to develop over the last few years, great point. Keep them coming.
The last one we had never saw any playing time if I remember correctly.
CinciX12
11-01-2013, 10:24 AM
I do have some concerns with Bluiett, specifically his foot speed an ability to defend, but I don't know how you can say he's not going to be much of anything.
The kid is about as pure a shooter as it gets.
I don't think (and obviously everyone is going to disagree with me) that he is going to be able to create for himself to get the same opportunities.
I hope I am proven wrong.
bleedXblue
11-01-2013, 10:31 AM
He reminds me a lot of BJ Raymond.........nice stroke, not a lot of foot speed. I think he handles the ball better than Raymond. This kid would be a nice get and would really round out a fantastic class.
Charlesbt4
11-01-2013, 10:33 AM
And given that he already has a solid frame for a high schooler, he is going to be able to bully the living hell out of smaller defenders.
GoMuskies
11-01-2013, 10:43 AM
I've never seen him play, but I'm confident he will be the greatest player in Xavier basketball history.
JAX 3758
11-01-2013, 10:49 AM
He just looked so raw down low that I'm not 100% confident our coaching staff is the crew to get the maximum potential out of him. .
I am just gonna chalk this up to it to you being drunk because its friday
He is a wing player and is not going to spend much time with his back to the basket in the paint
XUFan09
11-01-2013, 11:02 AM
He's a "power wing," like Dez was. Obviously, they're very different after that, as Bluiett is not that athletic but he is a knock-down shooter from everywhere on the floor. He's a very old-school type of player, especially in how he creates space for his shot.
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CinciX12
11-01-2013, 11:04 AM
I am just gonna chalk this up to it to you being drunk because its friday
He is a wing player and is not going to spend much time with his back to the basket in the paint
I watched 3 videos and the majority of the time and highlights were him in the post or on fast breaks getting layups. It wasn't interesting enough to watch a 4th.
Chalmers0
11-01-2013, 11:08 AM
He just looked so raw down low that I'm not 100% confident our coaching staff is the crew to get the maximum potential out of him. Don't get me wrong, the potential is obvious and I'd be thrilled to have him. I just am hesitant to assume any longer that our staff develops post play very well.
So the player is deemed one of the best shooters (maybe the best) and overall offensive players in the class and you're worried about him being raw down low? I will admit I'm worried about him defensively, as that may always be somewhat of a weakness due to overall athleticism, but from what I read that also could be what makes him a 4 year player instead of a 2 or 3 and done.
I also don't fully understand your complete pessimism due to JRob. You also have to consider Travis Taylor's improvement over his two years. Philmore and Stainbrook I think will show some great improvement this year as well. I'm not saying Mack and staff have a great history of developing players by any stretch (JRob is obviously a great example) but I also don't think you can ignore players like Trav and his development either.
Juice
11-01-2013, 11:09 AM
I watched 3 videos and the majority of the time and highlights were him in the post or on fast breaks getting layups. It wasn't interesting enough to watch a 4th.
He's 6'5'' and shoots the ball. In no way does his game resemble Jeff Robinson's game as an athletic forward who was 6'10" or whatever he was.. Sorry, but you're wrong.
CinciX12
11-01-2013, 11:11 AM
So the player is deemed one of the best shooters (maybe the best) and overall offensive players in the class and you're worried about him being raw down low? I will admit I'm worried about him defensively, as that may always be somewhat of a weakness due to overall athleticism, but from what I read that also could be what makes him a 4 year player instead of a 2 or 3 and done.
I also don't fully understand your complete pessimism due to JRob. You also have to consider Travis Taylor's improvement over his two years. Philmore and Stainbrook I think will show some great improvement this year as well. I'm not saying Mack and staff have a great history of developing players by any stretch (JRob is obviously a great example) but I also don't think you can ignore players like Trav and his development either.
All good points. I could have just watched the wrong videos.
American X
11-01-2013, 11:13 AM
I've never seen him play, but I'm confident he will be the greatest player in Xavier basketball history.
Breaking News from Johnny Wolf's recruitment.
ammtd34
11-01-2013, 11:22 AM
Breaking News from Johnny Wolf's recruitment.
I bet Bluiett never dunked on OJ Mayo.
Milhouse
11-01-2013, 11:32 AM
I watched 3 videos and the majority of the time and highlights were him in the post or on fast breaks getting layups. It wasn't interesting enough to watch a 4th.
Welp luckily you're not on the staff.
Trust in Mack and co. They've delivered Talent like Xavier's never seen before.
PM Thor
11-01-2013, 11:49 AM
Just the level of schools who were after Bluiett indicates that quite a few coaches see something in the kid. Hell, when Izzo is after a kid, that is a pretty good indicator that the kid is pretty solid. At least in my book.
GoMuskies
11-01-2013, 11:53 AM
Just the level of schools who were after Bluiett indicates that quite a few coaches see something in the kid. Hell, when Izzo is after a kid, that is a pretty good indicator that the kid is pretty solid. At least in my book.
Fair enough (and I expect Bluiett to be good), but Michigan State has shitty players sometimes, too.
xudash
11-01-2013, 12:29 PM
Wow.
Buyer's remorse on a yet to be closed deal for an obvious talent.
Mel Cooley XU'81
11-01-2013, 12:33 PM
Right on, Dash.
GoMuskies
11-01-2013, 12:36 PM
Wow.
Buyer's remorse on a yet to be closed deal for an obvious talent.
From exactly one person
xudash
11-01-2013, 12:45 PM
From exactly one person
Yep. Put the ignore light on and wait for what we hope will be an excellent announcement.
BTW, as we get closer to that, it's bitterness-ville with the Butler and MSU douchebags. One Butler idiot says he was never meant for Butler if he goes to X. He doesn't know how right he is, but for the wrong reasons. And an MSU tool appears to believe Michigan State is relevant in football, as he's playing the no football card for X now.
XULucho27
11-01-2013, 12:49 PM
Ugh, I just watched 35 seconds of one YouTube highlight video and Trevon didn't look even remotely "Michael Jordan-esque." What a waste.
BTW, as we get closer to that, it's bitterness-ville with the Butler and MSU douchebags. One Butler idiot says he was never meant for Butler if he goes to X. He doesn't know how right he is, but for the wrong reasons. And an MSU tool appears to believe Michigan State is relevant in football, as he's playing the no football card for X now.
Mmmm. Schadenfreude. :sadwave::laugh:
Xman95
11-01-2013, 01:29 PM
I bet Bluiett never dunked on OJ Mayo.
If he did, would it have been off one foot or two?
casualfan
11-01-2013, 01:36 PM
I bet Bluiett never dunked on OJ Mayo.
Haha neither did Johnny.
ammtd34
11-01-2013, 01:41 PM
Haha neither did Johnny.
I know. I argued that at the time. St. X people were freaking out that he dunked in the vicinity of Mayo.
Titanxman04
11-01-2013, 01:51 PM
FINALLY slipped over to butlerhoops. Awesome. Totally awesome. Again, it's like Dayton, only I can't pick who is more full of hope and who is more delusional.
casualfan
11-01-2013, 02:16 PM
FINALLY slipped over to butlerhoops. Awesome. Totally awesome. Again, it's like Dayton, only I can't pick who is more full of hope and who is more delusional.
You guys realize after last year lots of people read this board and think the same thing right?
ammtd34
11-01-2013, 02:17 PM
FINALLY slipped over to butlerhoops. Awesome. Totally awesome. Again, it's like Dayton, only I can't pick who is more full of hope and who is more delusional.
Now they're saying he wouldn't get minutes at Butler anyway. Yeah, okay. Those grapes are awfully sour.
bobbiemcgee
11-01-2013, 02:22 PM
Dad to sny:
The 6-foot-5 Indianapolis Park Tudor small forward is considering Xavier, Butler, Memphis and Michigan State, with multiple outlets saying he will pick Xavier.
Bluiett visited Xavier for a soccer game last weekend following a visit to basketball practice there last week.
“They will be better than most predict,” Rey Bluiett said of Xavier, a new entry into the Big East under coach Chris Mack. “It was a well-structured practice with a balance of skillwork and game prep. It seems like a good place to get better.”
As for what Mack said about Bluiett, Rey indicated the coach said, “He’s what they need to become one of the [best] teams in the country.”
XULucho27
11-01-2013, 02:23 PM
You guys realize after last year lots of people read this board and think the same thing right?
Yeah, but they're delusional. Hence, we're right and they're wrong. So concludes this episode of Circular Reasoning Weekly.
paulxu
11-01-2013, 02:28 PM
Who is this guy?
Chip Sylvie @IllianaAAU 1h
I can confirm that Trevon Bluiett will pop for Xavier today.
JAX 3758
11-01-2013, 02:30 PM
Who is this guy?
Chip Sylvie @IllianaAAU 1h
I can confirm that Trevon Bluiett will pop for Xavier today.
Don't know. This is the 6th outlet between last night and today to confirm though
muskiefan82
11-01-2013, 02:42 PM
How does one pop for Xavier exactly? This seems potentially dangerous.
chico
11-01-2013, 02:42 PM
Don't know. This is the 6th outlet between last night and today to confirm though
Which means it's probably the 5th guy to copy off the first one. Which means none of these guys really know. I'm convinced they're just picking a school - if Blueitt picks that school they can trumpet their keen knowledge, and if he picks a different one they'll just go on to the next "inside scoop" they have.
bobbiemcgee
11-01-2013, 02:44 PM
247 95% X now, for what that is worth.
xudash
11-01-2013, 02:46 PM
247 95% X now, for what that is worth.
I'm not a stats guy, but that makes me like our odds.
XUFan09
11-01-2013, 02:48 PM
Who is this guy?
Chip Sylvie @IllianaAAU 1h
I can confirm that Trevon Bluiett will pop for Xavier today.
I should set up a basketball-related Twitter account and then tweet the same thing. Then I'll look like I'm "in the know."
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danaandvictory
11-01-2013, 02:50 PM
I asked my Magic 8 Ball where Bluiett would commit and it said "Ask Again Later."
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