Trevon Bluiett - Commit - XAVIER (OFFICIAL)

[xudash]

It's an official visit so he will be there for 48 hours from the time he steps on campus.

Thanks. Wasn't aware of that requirement. That puts him from today to returning home on Saturday. Ouch.

[casualfan]

Thanks. Wasn't aware of that requirement. That puts him from today to returning home on Saturday. Ouch.

I don't know that it is a requirement, but that is what is allowed and typically what happens.

The rule is that the university can pay for all expenses related to the trip and all meals and reasonable entertainment cost for the player and parents/guardians for a 48 hour period.

I'm sure the rules are much more complicated then that in terms of what they can and can't pay for, but that is the basic gist of the difference between an official and an unofficial visit.

[Titanxman04]

From my understanding, he wouldn't be there for their Midnight Madness program. If he wanted to attend it, he would have to leave campus completely and come back on his own dime.

It's fun being a member of scout. Love it already. Might have to convince the boss to let me get the year instead of the month though.

[PMI]

He cannot attend Michigan State's Midnight Madness. He's going out there today and coming back Friday.

[xudash]

Wow. I missed a day.

From MSU board: "Being reported that Bluiett will take his official visit Wednesday-Friday this week. Great news"

One of those days; I thought this was Thursday when I was typing the above today to Saturday visit response.

So he gets some personal attention, but he doesn't stay for their MM...

[LA Muskie]

I wouldn't count Butler out of this yet. This is a 3-horse race. Sounds like we are in the lead, but Butler is practically neck-and-neck with us, and MSU is making a run down the home stretch. My guess is that we have to hold off MSU. But again, Butler's right there with us.

[ammtd34]

It sounds like MSU is making up some ground, but I think it's too much to make up according to Trevon's timetable. Let's not discount the fact that Mack and Steele have had a relationship with the kid since he was in the 8th grade. That's a lot for anyone to overcome in a mad dash to recruit someone, even for Tom Izzo.

[xudash]

It sounds like MSU is making up some ground, but I think it's too much to make up according to Trevon's timetable. Let's not discount the fact that Mack and Steele have had a relationship with the kid since he was in the 8th grade. That's a lot for anyone to overcome in a mad dash to recruit someone, even for Tom Izzo.

That's great information. I had no idea they went back that far.

I don't see Butler being that close to us, based on the relationship criterion.

[bleedXblue]

I'm pretty damn worried about MSU. Blueitt has fallen once for a high profile program in UCLA. Izzo I am sure can be pretty impressive. Lets just hope the 3 hour drive is a deterrent.

[PMI]

I'm pretty damn worried about MSU. Blueitt has fallen once for a high profile program in UCLA. Izzo I am sure can be pretty impressive. Lets just hope the 3 hour drive is a deterrent.

He's also fallen for Butler in the past too, so I don't think you can really conclude it one way or another. That said, Michigan State is a very attractive offer.

[danaandvictory]

I'm pretty damn worried about MSU. Blueitt has fallen once for a high profile program in UCLA. Izzo I am sure can be pretty impressive. Lets just hope the 3 hour drive is a deterrent.

Ed Schilling, one of Alford's assistants at UCLA, is the former head basketball coach at Park Tudor, where Bluiett attends HS. There was obviously a very personal connection and high level of trust.

I think this actually bodes well for Xavier in this process because Mack and especially Steele have been on it for so long AND XU provides the proximity to home he says he wants. Not to discount Butler but I do think losing Stevens puts them on the back foot.

In any event, it's impossible to guess what a teenager is going to do so I don't know whether applying logic and making predictions is worthwhile.

[JTG]

I'm pretty damn worried about MSU. Blueitt has fallen once for a high profile program in UCLA. Izzo I am sure can be pretty impressive. Lets just hope the 3 hour drive is a deterrent.

You would need to be in a Ferrari or an Indycar to get from Indy to East lansing in 3 hours. More like 4 1/2.

[Emp]

You would need to be in a Ferrari or an Indycar to get from Indy to East lansing in 3 hours. More like 4 1/2.. +\- 235 miles straight up I-69. If so inclined, one could drive 74 in Indiana, 79 in Michigan, and not get stopped. It's not a same day turnaround trip in the way Cincinnati is, and that good old Lake Michigan snow belt will not be negligible in January and February. We win on proximity, if that is the issue.

[LA Muskie]

That's great information. I had no idea they went back that far.

I don't see Butler being that close to us, based on the relationship criterion.
While that may make sense at first blush, Butler has been in on him for about just as long. And the school is in his backyard. Let's put it this way, word on the street is that we should be more worried about Butler than MSU. Although word on the street is also that we are in the lead.

[ammtd34]

While that may make sense at first blush, Butler has been in on him for about just as long. And the school is in his backyard. Let's put it this way, word on the street is that we should be more worried about Butler than MSU. Although word on the street is also that we are in the lead.

Right. I didn't mean to say that we are running away with it, just that MSU has a ton of work to do to make up the work put in by our - and Butler's - staff.

Everything makes so much more sense with a Scout membership.

[xudash]

While that may make sense at first blush, Butler has been in on him for about just as long. And the school is in his backyard. Let's put it this way, word on the street is that we should be more worried about Butler than MSU. Although word on the street is also that we are in the lead.

Well, that's interesting.

Actually am glad to read that.

At least it is becoming somewhat clear - based on his process - that we could know sooner than later. In other words, perhaps this doesn't drag out for 3 weeks (2 now, from this past weekend). Perhaps he returns from his trip in East Lansing and finally pulls the trigger this weekend or early next week.

Perhaps I should take my mind off this by doing one of two things:

1. Give myself a paper cut and poor lemon juice on it; or
2. Watch replays of Barrack Obama telepromptering a bunch of broken promises.

....and the less painful, paper cut option wins.

[RealDeal]

It would be great if we could all refrain from bringing politics into basketball threads. We have other sections of the board for that.

[Ledgewood]

It would be great if we could all refrain from bringing politics into basketball threads. We have other sections of the board for that.

Yeah... Like how Obama refrained from coming through on his promises. IMEANAMIRIGHT?!!?!

[xudash]

It would be great if we could all refrain from bringing politics into basketball threads. We have other sections of the board for that.

Fair enough. And good point.

[JTG]

While that may make sense at first blush, Butler has been in on him for about just as long. And the school is in his backyard. Let's put it this way, word on the street is that we should be more worried about Butler than MSU. Although word on the street is also that we are in the lead.

Time to be wishing the "bad JuJu" on the Blueitt MSU trip...maybe road construction, bad cafeteria food, ugly co-eds, Izzo cranky. Just a thought. Hope we get this kid, then we'd have our own Fab Five.

[Charlesbt4]

I certainly hope that Blueitt decides to come to Xavier. However, I will say that Tom Izzo is one of the few college coaches that I find to be entirely respectable. I would be hard-pressed to find something negative to say about he and/or his program.

[Titanxman04]

I certainly hope that Blueitt decides to come to Xavier. However, I will say that Tom Izzo is one of the few college coaches that I find to be entirely respectable. I would be hard-pressed to find something negative to say about he and/or his program.

Izzo is a champ. He is consistent and brings kids into a program to stay for a few years. I love that about him and ciredit his FF success to the fact that he always seems to have productive seniors and juniors on his squad. That one-and-done stuff may work for Cal, but they lose in the Tournament because of their youth and inexperience. Izzo ensures that his kids do the right thing and more often than not, he's successful with it.

With that said, I hope Blueitt's trip is terrible.

[ammtd34]

Izzo is a champ. He is consistent and brings kids into a program to stay for a few years. I love that about him and ciredit his FF success to the fact that he always seems to have productive seniors and juniors on his squad. That one-and-done stuff may work for Cal, but they lose in the Tournament because of their youth and inexperience. Izzo ensures that his kids do the right thing and more often than not, he's successful with it.

With that said, I hope Blueitt's trip is terrible.

NO. HE'S TERRIBLE! I was at the game in 1999 when his Spartans were upset by Wright Freaking State in what was supposed to be simply a homecoming game for Andre Hutson. I know that doesn't matter at all (and matters even less since they actually won the national championship that year) but it was hilarious. It was snowing and Wright State was on break so the Nutter Center was only about half full. I went with my cousin. We "snuck" down right behind the MSU bench. Snuck is in quotes because no one checked tickets. Morris Peterson was like 2-15 from the floor and Jason Richardson had a nasty put back dunk off of a foul shot miss. Everyone kept waiting on a 25-0 run from MSU that just never came.

[Titanxman04]

NO. HE'S TERRIBLE! I was at the game in 1999 when his Spartans were upset by Wright Freaking State in what was supposed to be simply a homecoming game for Andre Hutson. I know that doesn't matter at all (and matters even less since they actually won the national championship that year) but it was hilarious. It was snowing and Wright State was on break so the Nutter Center was only about half full. I went with my cousin. We "snuck" down right behind the MSU bench. Snuck is in quotes because no one checked tickets. Morris Peterson was like 2-15 from the floor and Jason Richardson had a nasty put back dunk off of a foul shot miss. Everyone kept waiting on a 25-0 run from MSU that just never came.

Haha, that had to be pretty awesome though.

One of the guys in my wedding went to Dayton. Knew him from high school and loves Dayton basketball (poor guy). However, one year he was on the training staff at UD Arena and that was when the tournament rolled through Dayton. OSU, MSU, and North Carolina were all there. He got to talk to Roy Williams, Psycho T (stupidest nickname ever in sports), and of course, Tom Izzo. He said Williams was very friendly but Izzo was probably the coolest guy he got to talk to during the time. Spent about ten minutes in a hallway just asking Izzo about his experiences and all.

[TheDarksideUD]

Here's how it stands right now from an X source (no I won't tell you who):

1. Butler
1a. MSU (they could conceivably jump Butler if TB has a nice visit this week)
2. Memphis
3. Xavier

Good luck, you guys probably need Bluiett more than any of the other schools save maybe MSU.

[XU 87]

Here's how it stands right now from an X source (no I won't tell you who):

1. Butler
1a. MSU (they could conceivably jump Butler if TB has a nice visit this week)
2. Memphis
3. Xavier

Good luck, you guys probably need Bluiett more than any of the other schools save maybe MSU.

Well, I suppose at least we're not up against the schools UD routinely is recruiting against - Jacksonville (the college not the NFL team,) IUPUI, Bowling Green, Drake (the college not the explorer) and Evansville.

Although I'm not saying that he's a lock to come to X, my top secret inside sources say that you're full of shit.

In closing, I also wish you good luck and hope that UD can once again achieve it's goal of winning the Maui Classic.

[MHettel]

Here's how it stands right now from an X source (no I won't tell you who):

1. Butler
1a. MSU (they could conceivably jump Butler if TB has a nice visit this week)
2. Memphis
3. Xavier

Good luck, you guys probably need Bluiett more than any of the other schools save maybe MSU.

I just talked to your source and got a quick update.

Word on the street is that Dayton is a bunch of watermelon humpers. This story is moving fast, so stay tuned for further updates.

[bobbiemcgee]

I just talked to your source and got a quick update.

Word on the street is that Dayton is a bunch of watermelon humpers. This story is moving fast, so stay tuned for further updates.

Actually, they've moved up. Got a rapist playing Center this year.

[Juice]

Here's how it stands right now from an X source (no I won't tell you who):

1. Butler
1a. MSU (they could conceivably jump Butler if TB has a nice visit this week)
2. Memphis
3. Xavier

Good luck, you guys probably need Bluiett more than any of the other schools save maybe MSU.

Oh ok.

[LA Muskie]

Let's please not let this thread get derailed. Again. Just ignore him.

[TheDarksideUD]

Let's please not let this thread get derailed. Again. Just ignore him.My apologies for providing you guys with some new info.

[xudash]

Well, I suppose at least we're not up against the schools UD routinely is recruiting against - Jacksonville (the college not the NFL team,) IUPUI, Bowling Green, Drake (the college not the explorer) and Evansville.

Although I'm not saying that he's a lock to come to X, my top secret inside sources say that you're full of shit.

In closing, I also wish you good luck and hope that UD can once again achieve it's goal of winning the Maui Classic.

Not to go off-track with your point, but Jacksonville, the University, may be able to give Jacksonville, the professional football team a run for it's money.

[Masterofreality]

My apologies for providing you guys with some new info.

Yeah, here's some new info too. Kid Yuma has the udump program going backwards. Not a preseason championship to be found. Now it's 7th..in a worse A-10.

Good hire

[sUCk]

Took a little longer than 10 days however his decision will be early next week...X remains the leader the in the clubhouse albeit has gotten a little tighter in the last week....

[ammtd34]

Took a little longer than 10 days however his decision will be early next week...X remains the leader the in the clubhouse albeit has gotten a little tighter in the last week....

NO! DIDN'T YOU SEE THE UDUMP UPDATE? I trust him over the guys that I pay for info*.

*I admit that it sounds a little pathetic that I pay people to tell me information about 16-22 year olds. I also don't care.

[HuskyMuskie]

Was looking at 247 Sports this morning, and noticed there wasn't an official or unofficial visit for Bluiett on Xavier's campus. Does anyone know/remember if he has even been on campus before?

[Juice]

Was looking at 247 Sports this morning, and noticed there wasn't an official or unofficial visit for Bluiett on Xavier's campus. Does anyone know/remember if he has even been on campus before?

He has on an unofficial.

[Milhouse]

Took a little longer than 10 days however his decision will be early next week...X remains the leader the in the clubhouse albeit has gotten a little tighter in the last week....

So he won't be at muskie madness then?

[danaandvictory]

So he won't be at muskie madness then?

His visit at State is over today (or maybe yesterday). I would suppose the staff would be trying to get him down to Cincinnati, not sure if it'll happen though.

[HuskyMuskie]

For what it's worth...this guy has heard X from his "sources" from the start. He is an intern at 247 sports and a beat writer for Illinois.

Derek Piper ‏@FeelDaPaign 29m
Source told me this morning that Bluiett family is still unsure of the next step. Might take one more official. Let the speculation begin.

Derek Piper ‏@FeelDaPaign 33m
Trevon Bluiett is on his way back to Indianapolis. Did not commit to #MSU at this time

Which reminds me...this might be the most closely followed recruitment since...DSR? Torian Graham? Remember these names?

[waggy]

Doesn't X try to schedule all the incoming recruits official visits at one time? Kinda of a blowout?

[JTG]

For what it's worth...this guy has heard X from his "sources" from the start. He is an intern at 247 sports and a beat writer for Illinois.

Derek Piper ‏@FeelDaPaign 29m
Source told me this morning that Bluiett family is still unsure of the next step. Might take one more official. Let the speculation begin.

Derek Piper ‏@FeelDaPaign 33m
Trevon Bluiett is on his way back to Indianapolis. Did not commit to #MSU at this time

Which reminds me...this might be the most closely followed recruitment since...DSR? Torian Graham? Remember these names?

Cmon Blue, just take the official to Victory Pkwy, commit and be done with it. Just to make sure, that in your heart you're a Musketeer.

[danaandvictory]

Doesn't X try to schedule all the incoming recruits official visits at one time? Kinda of a blowout?

I don't think so. As far as I'm aware London, Macura, and O'Mara all took officials at different times. I don't know if Sumner ever did an official but obviously has been on campus a ton.

Bluiett hasn't taken an official to XU but I wouldn't consider that a bad sign - he lives close enough that they can pop down anytime they want to visit and he's been on campus a few times.

[LA Muskie]

I don't think so. As far as I'm aware London, Macura, and O'Mara all took officials at different times. I don't know if Sumner ever did an official but obviously has been on campus a ton.

Bluiett hasn't taken an official to XU but I wouldn't consider that a bad sign - he lives close enough that they can pop down anytime they want to visit and he's been on campus a few times.
Exactly. The fact that he hasn't taken an official visit does not mean there is any less interest. I don't believe he took an official to Butler either, but word is that he has been on both campuses A LOT. These kids tend to like to save their officials for trips that require significant travel cost, since that's the real benefit of an official visit.

[ammtd34]

Which reminds me...this might be the most closely followed recruitment since...DSR? Torian Graham? Remember these names?

Alex Oriakhi's transfer?

[HuskyMuskie]

Alex Oriakhi's transfer?

Michael Chandler? Sim Bhullar???

[kyxu]

Rodney Purvis for that one weekend.

[KC4X]

This is a no-brainer, guys...

X's main color is.... Blue!
MSU's main color is... NOT blue.

Blue it, Trevon!

(We're going to ignore Butler for this exercise. :) X is the obvious choice over that school. And, the distance allows for Trevon to be far enough away from home to be independent while still close enough for the family to attend games.)

And, if none of the above is good enough, Trevon makes the final piece to the new "fab 5", as someone else already mentioned.

[XUdenver]

This from Piper on an MSU chatboard:

Here is my update...

Spoke with Bluiett's HS coach, Kyle Cox, this morning. Cox said that Bluiett really enjoyed his visit to Memphis. He was very complimentary of Josh Pastner and his staff. "They're a top-notch staff. They did a tremendous job," Cox said. He also confirmed that Bluiett has received offers from Memphis and Michigan State. Bluiett is currently working out a visit to Michigan State this weekend. They have their Midnight Madness on Friday, but he said MSU is interested in bringing him in before that (giving him individual attention instead of "one of many" recruits at MM).

Coach said that there are a lot of things that Bluiett likes about MSU. (Quoting his words) Unbelievable strength of schedule, arguably the best basketball conference in the country, Izzo on the "Mount Rushmore of college coaches", they have an NBA-style program, he has family in Detroit (uncle played at MSU). The biggest sell, though, is that Gary Harris and Branden Dawson are expected to go pro next year, and MSU will need a scorer/shooter to come in and be ready to play right away. They want Bluiett to be that guy, Cox said.

As it stands, we'll see how his visit goes this weekend. The Bluiett family is looking to make a decision ASAP (could come really soon if he falls in love with MSU this weekend). Coach said he does not expect Butler and Xavier to get official visits, since he's already been to those campuses. Memphis and MSU are coming on strong, and Xavier and Butler are not out of it yet. Stay tuned.

http://michiganstate.247sports.com/Board/95/14-IN-SF-Trevon-Bluiett-Michigan-State-offer--22079008/3

[LA Muskie]

This from Piper on an MSU chatboard:

Here is my update...

Spoke with Bluiett's HS coach, Kyle Cox, this morning. Cox said that Bluiett really enjoyed his visit to Memphis. He was very complimentary of Josh Pastner and his staff. "They're a top-notch staff. They did a tremendous job," Cox said. He also confirmed that Bluiett has received offers from Memphis and Michigan State. Bluiett is currently working out a visit to Michigan State this weekend. They have their Midnight Madness on Friday, but he said MSU is interested in bringing him in before that (giving him individual attention instead of "one of many" recruits at MM).

Coach said that there are a lot of things that Bluiett likes about MSU. (Quoting his words) Unbelievable strength of schedule, arguably the best basketball conference in the country, Izzo on the "Mount Rushmore of college coaches", they have an NBA-style program, he has family in Detroit (uncle played at MSU). The biggest sell, though, is that Gary Harris and Branden Dawson are expected to go pro next year, and MSU will need a scorer/shooter to come in and be ready to play right away. They want Bluiett to be that guy, Cox said.

As it stands, we'll see how his visit goes this weekend. The Bluiett family is looking to make a decision ASAP (could come really soon if he falls in love with MSU this weekend). Coach said he does not expect Butler and Xavier to get official visits, since he's already been to those campuses. Memphis and MSU are coming on strong, and Xavier and Butler are not out of it yet. Stay tuned.

http://michiganstate.247sports.com/Board/95/14-IN-SF-Trevon-Bluiett-Michigan-State-offer--22079008/3
Thanks Denver. This is from 3 days ago and was before the MSU visit (which should be wrapping up right around now). Sounds like this should be wrapped up by this time next week. Here's hoping it's us. From what I hear, he'd be a great addition.

EDIT: Actually it looks like he didn't stay the full 48 hours; the visit apparently ended this morning: http://michiganstate.scout.com/2/1337523.html

[A10fan]

http://michiganstate.247sports.com/Board/95/14-IN-SF-Trevon-Bluiett-Michigan-State-offer--22079008/6

That thread gets more interesting as it goes along.

[LA Muskie]

http://michiganstate.247sports.com/Board/95/14-IN-SF-Trevon-Bluiett-Michigan-State-offer--22079008/6

That thread gets more interesting as it goes along.
If I was an MSU fan I would think every one of those things. I'm not saying they are correct; just that it is exactly as you would expect an MSU fan to think.

[waggy]

If I was an MSU fan I would think every one of those things. I'm not saying they are correct; just that it is exactly as you would expect an MSU fan to think.

I like the guy who shoots down "the percentage" or who leads bullshit so frequently thrown around by recruiting "insiders". It's just a bunch of horseshit. I guy has either committed to a program or he has not.

[LA Muskie]

I like the guy who shoots down "the percentage" or who leads bullshit so frequently thrown around by recruiting "insiders". It's just a bunch of horseshit. I guy has either committed to a program or he has not.

And...as Bluiett himself proves, he hasn't necessarily committed even when he has.

[XUdenver]

Thanks Denver. This is from 3 days ago and was before the MSU visit (which should be wrapping up right around now). Sounds like this should be wrapped up by this time next week. Here's hoping it's us. From what I hear, he'd be a great addition.

EDIT: Actually it looks like he didn't stay the full 48 hours; the visit apparently ended this morning: http://michiganstate.scout.com/2/1337523.html


Yea, I knew it wasn't the absolute latest and greatest, but I thought some of the Memphis comments were interesting as well. It also confirmed for me that MSU is a formidable opponent in this race, but my fingers are crossed.

[LA Muskie]

Yea, I knew it wasn't the absolute latest and greatest, but I thought some of the Memphis comments were interesting as well. It also confirmed for me that MSU is a formidable opponent in this race, but my fingers are crossed.
Yeah I think MSU is probably a formidable opponent in every race. I'm not particularly worried about Memphis (as in...at all). I'd say I'm worried about MSU and Butler in that order, although word on the street was that Butler was ahead of MSU but behind us in the race. Then again, that was before his visit to MSU...

[xavierj]

In my opinion I would be shocked if he does not end up at xavier. Steel has had a relationship with them for a long time. Michigan st. Has a ton to makeup, not to mention the distance and size of school. He will be a Muskie.

[mistabeecee41]

not that anybody thought Memphis was much of a threat... they just received a commitment from a 6'7 JUCO wing.

[TheDarksideUD]

Here's how it stands right now from an X source (no I won't tell you who):

1. Butler
1a. MSU (they could conceivably jump Butler if TB has a nice visit this week)
2. Memphis
3. Xavier

Good luck, you guys probably need Bluiett more than any of the other schools save maybe MSU.My X source told me Bluiett watched Butler practice the other day and hung around to watch the football team beat Drake. He is now hearing it's a two school race (BU and X) with Butler still in front.

[waggy]

So Dayton is out? WTF?

[MHettel]

My X source told me Bluiett watched Butler practice the other day and hung around to watch the football team beat Drake. He is now hearing it's a two school race (BU and X) with Butler still in front.

Another update from your source. You hump watermelons. Personally.

We should know within a week!

[xudash]

More from Michigan State fans:

Most widely trusted "insider" on Hondo's website says that Xavier still leads, but MSU is #2 after the visit, and in the hunt. He describes it as 70/30 Xavier over MSU. I am not familiar with his insider status level, but several longtime posters on the site say, in no uncertain terms, that he truly knows what's going on behind the closed doors of MSU athletics more than anyone else, anywhere.

Trying to dig on Trevon's current outlook. I've been in contact with someone who is close with someone in the Xavier program. Taking his information with a grain of salt (obviously has a Xavier bias), but thought I'd share what I've heard. Xavier people are seeing it as Xavier vs. MSU, with Xavier holding the advantage. They felt that he was a lock to Xavier before the MSU visit, now calling it 85% for Xavier. They are feeling that the proximity to home, in addition to the long-term relationships that they have built with Trevon give them the edge. Once again, not saying this is the case, just relaying the message.

Also just texted my original (and most trusted) source in Indianapolis, asking if the statement of a Memphis-Xavier race was accurate. He said that was not accurate, and that MSU was still very much in the mix. Trevon was also at Butler's practice yesterday. I asked him if there was a favorite right now, and he said that there is not a clear enough one to speculate. Wouldn't give up on this one yet.

I'm glad he went to Butler's practice yesterday. That means he got to take in their toilet-centric facilities again.

http://michiganstate.247sports.com/Board/95/14-IN-SF-Trevon-Bluiett-Michigan-State-offer--22079008/7

I like the one very misinformed fan who thinks we're still stuck playing the likes of Duquesne and Dayton in the A10. Too funny.

[casualfan]

Hearing he's starting an official to x today.

[xudash]

Hearing he's starting an official to x today.

If that's true, shall we believe that he's saving the best for last?

Time to bring this one home.

[JTG]

If that's true, shall we believe that he's saving the best for last?

Time to bring this one home.

If so this could be a great week for X.

[Milhouse]

http://zagsblog.com/articles/trevon-bluiett-visits-butler-michigan-state-xavier-up-next/

Seems as though Mack has an in home scheduled for tomorrow.

[xudash]

http://zagsblog.com/articles/trevon-bluiett-visits-butler-michigan-state-xavier-up-next/

Seems as though Mack has an in home scheduled for tomorrow.

Not that they would show their cards at this point, but there is nothing in that article that suggests any program has a clear edge.

In fact, the father seems very focused on environmental issues, relying a lot on the look and feel of practice sessions, etc.

I think I read somewhere in here where Trevon has had an UNOFFICIAL visit to X. I certainly like our chances if he comes in on Wednesday for an excellent visit, coupled with the relationships he's enjoyed with Steele and Mack over a long time. If he believes Memphis shows well, I like our ability to show our talent, the Cintas Center, the educational support infrastructure, etc.

[casualfan]

Michigan State just got a commitment from 6'5 wing Javon Bess.

[bleedXblue]

Michigan State just got a commitment from 6'5 wing Javon Bess.

Well that chnages things a bit.

I think this comes down to us and Butler.

[ammtd34]

Well that chnages things a bit.

I think this comes down to us and Butler.

I don't think it changes it much, and certainly doesn't rule out MSU. I would assume Bluiett thinks he's better than Bess and probably wouldn't let it affect his decision.

[LA Muskie]

Hearing he's starting an official to x today.
He's not.

[LA Muskie]

Not that they would show their cards at this point, but there is nothing in that article that suggests any program has a clear edge.

In fact, the father seems very focused on environmental issues, relying a lot on the look and feel of practice sessions, etc.

I think I read somewhere in here where Trevon has had an UNOFFICIAL visit to X. I certainly like our chances if he comes in on Wednesday for an excellent visit, coupled with the relationships he's enjoyed with Steele and Mack over a long time. If he believes Memphis shows well, I like our ability to show our talent, the Cintas Center, the educational support infrastructure, etc.
He has had a number of unofficial visits to X, but has not taken an official. He will not be visiting on Wednesday.

[xudash]

He has had a number of unofficial visits to X, but has not taken an official. He will not be visiting on Wednesday.

What context can you provide about him not coming.

Are they satisfied with the due diligence they've already performed on Xavier, and are they leaving it to an in-home with Chris Mack to round out their decisioning process?

It still sounds like a decision is not immediate; in other words, it doesn't sound like they'll make a decision this week.

[Titanxman04]

What context can you provide about him not coming.

Are they satisfied with the due diligence they've already performed on Xavier, and are they leaving it to an in-home with Chris Mack to round out their decisioning process?

It still sounds like a decision is not immediate; in other words, it doesn't sound like they'll make a decision this week.

Everything I've heard is expect word by Saturday.

[casualfan]

I've now heard MSU and Memphis will get in-homes this week followed by a visit to Xavier this weekend, but I was also told he'd be at X today and obviously that didn't happen haha.

[xudash]

Everything I've heard is expect word by Saturday.

So, an in-home by Chris tomorrow (I presume that is still on).

Then, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and some amount of Saturday before he pulls the trigger.

I would ask you for your opinion on whether or not we're still in the lead for him, whatever "being in the lead" means at this point.

Better yet, I'll ask you about what you're hearing about that, if anything, respecting that anything you may be hearing today most likely will have little if any bearing on the outcome.

Good for the young man. He has some great outcomes from which to choose.

[GoMuskies]

Good for the young man. He has some great outcomes from which to choose.

Plus he has Butler.

[Titanxman04]

So, an in-home by Chris tomorrow (I presume that is still on).

Then, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and some amount of Saturday before he pulls the trigger.

I would ask you for your opinion on whether or not we're still in the lead for him, whatever "being in the lead" means at this point.

Better yet, I'll ask you about what you're hearing about that, if anything, respecting that anything you may be hearing today most likely will have little if any bearing on the outcome.

Good for the young man. He has some great outcomes from which to choose.

We know how these recruitments go. With a program like MSU, anything can happen. He's leaning to X from everything I've heard, but again, you never know. He's talking to the coaches involved, taking his time, and weighing his decision. I doubt he wants to decommit a second time from a school. I applaud him for wanting to move quickly but taking all the chances he can to talk to the coaches. Where ever he goes, he has a bright future.

[Milhouse]

Lotta good info on scout. Gotta plug those dudes once again for all they do.

[Lamont Sanford]

I heard that Bess committed to Michigan State. Gotta think this helps our cause some.

[Titanxman04]

I heard that Bess committed to Michigan State. Gotta think this helps our cause some.

I'm hearing it doesn't have too much weight on Bluiett. They are different players and MSU wants them both all the same.

[Titanxman04]

Lotta good info on scout. Gotta plug those dudes once again for all they do.

Yeah. Just started my membership there and absolutely love it. Totally worth it.

[bleedXblue]

I'm hearing it doesn't have too much weight on Bluiett. They are different players and MSU wants them both all the same.

If you look at X , we have a huge need for a 6'5 wing player next year and beyond. I think he could come I and play right away.

[mohr5150]

If I were a gambling man, I'd put money on him coming on Friday and announcing at Musketeer Madness.

[LA Muskie]

If I were a gambling man, I'd put money on him coming on Saturday and announcing at Musketeer Madness.
Well if he's hoping to do that, he should probably come on Friday.

[kyxu]

CollegeRecruiting ‏@InsideBBRecruit
A Source tells me that Xavier sealed the deal last night in their in home visit with Trevon Bluiett. He could announce today.

Derek Piper‏@FeelDaPaign
Source: Xavier's Chris Mack was "ecstatic" after his in-home visit with Trevon Bluiett. Those within X program feel it's a "done deal."

[RealDeal]

CollegeRecruiting ‏@InsideBBRecruit
A Source tells me that Xavier sealed the deal last night in their in home visit with Trevon Bluiett. He could announce today.

Derek Piper‏@FeelDaPaign
Source: Xavier's Chris Mack was "ecstatic" after his in-home visit with Trevon Bluiett. Those within X program feel it's a "done deal."

Not convinced yet, but I like the sound of that!

[Milhouse]

http://butlerhoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28&page=219

Butler Fans make me blush. Their jealously is flattering. :) Have fun being the doormat of the Big East for the foreseeable future.

[Charlesbt4]

http://butlerhoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28&page=219

Butler Fans make me blush. Their jealously is flattering. :) Have fun being the doormat of the Big East for the foreseeable future.

Apparently, they do not realize that shooting guards and small forwards can play on the court at the same time, or that teams play more than one wing player at the same time.

[Muskie]

http://butlerhoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28&page=219

Butler Fans make me blush. Their jealously is flattering. :) Have fun being the doormat of the Big East for the foreseeable future.

This is the best:

"Still firmly believe that Butler is the obvious choice if he wants to put up big numbers. Not to mention that our program has had more success than X, our coach (albeit as an assistant) has coached much higher level players, and experienced the best that college basketball has to offer. "

___

Also now they're hoping that Macura decommits and goes to Butler if Blueitt commits to X.

[Titanxman04]

This is the best:

"Still firmly believe that Butler is the obvious choice if he wants to put up big numbers. Not to mention that our program has had more success than X, our coach (albeit as an assistant) has coached much higher level players, and experienced the best that college basketball has to offer. "

___

Also now they're hoping that Macura decommits and goes to Butler if Blueitt commits to X.

They really are showing all the signs of being the new "dayton" fanbase. This is going to be fun!

[ballyhoohoo]

http://butlerhoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28&page=219

Butler Fans make me blush. Their jealously is flattering. :) Have fun being the doormat of the Big East for the foreseeable future.

Brandon miller has coached more high talent players then Mack?

Chris Paul, Josh Smith, Crawford.

I don't know millers history. But it's not like Mack has coached the Bobby Capibianco's of the world

[Milhouse]

This is the best:

"Still firmly believe that Butler is the obvious choice if he wants to put up big numbers. Not to mention that our program has had more success than X, our coach (albeit as an assistant) has coached much higher level players, and experienced the best that college basketball has to offer. "

___

Also now they're hoping that Macura decommits and goes to Butler if Blueitt commits to X.

Has coached much higher level players?

Who is he talking about? If he's talking OSU Sullenger is pretty much a bust. Maybe Gordon Hayword? Do these idiots realize Mack recruited and coached CHRIS FREAKING PAUL? I'd love to hear what player that Stevens/Miller has coached that is better than him.

Hell Crawford could very well end up with a longer NBA career than Jared Sullenger when all is said and done.

[kyxu]

Butler is a program I have really tried to like. Its fanbase makes that very difficult. As it stands, Butler is a successful Dayton.

[Charlesbt4]

Brandon miller has coached more high talent players then Mack?

Chris Paul, Josh Smith, Crawford.

I don't know millers history. But it's not like Mack has coached the Bobby Capibianco's of the world

What's more pathetic - that you made the Bobby Capibianco reference or that I knew who he is without looking him up?

[Muskie]

What's more pathetic - that you made the Bobby Capibianco reference or that I knew who he is without looking him up?

Who doesn't remember Bobby C?

j/k

[ammtd34]

Wait, their Bluiett thread is 219 PAGES?!?!?!?!

[Pluto]

http://butlerhoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28&page=219

Butler Fans make me blush. Their jealously is flattering. :) Have fun being the doormat of the Big East for the foreseeable future.

Wait did they steal their board name from us? I thought Muskie had (school name)hoops trademarked.

[Muskie]

Wait did they steal their board name from us? I thought Muskie had (school name)hoops trademarked.
hardly. I believe that forum has been around quite awhile actually.

[Milhouse]

Butler is a program I have really tried to like. Its fanbase makes that very difficult. As it stands, Butler is a successful Dayton.

Dayton had x2 as many people in attendance to watch them fail. Butler barely averages 6500 fans a game last year. Both Depaul and Seton Hall had more.

Now that the wonder kid is gone gotta image it will go down.

[outsideobserver11]

What's more pathetic - that you made the Bobby Capibianco reference or that I knew who he is without looking him up?

I think I'm most pathetic - I even know it's bobby Capobianco not Capibianco. :sad:

[mistabeecee41]

Bluiett is attending practice this afternoon.

[Titanxman04]

Bluiett is attending practice this afternoon.

Can we get some students outside Cintas with signs and all?

[ammtd34]

Well, that has to be good news.

[Milhouse]

Too bad he wasn't there yesterday to see the Cavs practice.

[Charlesbt4]

Too bad he wasn't there yesterday to see the Cavs practice.

He already gets to watch a high school team practice every day.

[JTG]

I bleed Xavier Blue but could we just not start gloating until it's official ? I hate looking stupid when things don't pan out. It make us so Flyerish, if that's a term.

[Titanxman04]

I bleed Xavier Blue but could we just not start gloating until it's official ? I hate looking stupid when things don't pan out. It make us so Flyerish, if that's a term.

It's a way of life.

[paulxu]

Bluiett is attending practice this afternoon.

Is that an "official" visit? Might he come back for the Tip Off thing?

[Titanxman04]

Is that an "official" visit? Might he come back for the Tip Off thing?

Not an official. Just visiting practice. Could be good news tonight. Could be more of the same.

[paulxu]

Not an official. Just visiting practice. Could be good news tonight. Could be more of the same.

Today's dumb question: when a recruit visits a practice, is he allowed to shoot around with the team...or only watch.

[xudash]

Today's dumb question: when a recruit visits a practice, is he allowed to shoot around with the team...or only watch.

He is shackled in leg irons and hand cuffs and made to sit at the edge of half-court to watch and only watch.

Actually, a great question and I'm looking forward to the answer. My guess is watch only.

[GreatWhiteNorth]

No, he is to be blindfolded, but he can shoot the ball if he wants. He is also not allowed to eat or drink.

[RealDeal]

This is so much different from Marcus Camby's recuitment.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

I read maybe the final 20 pages of that butler board. They are intense. I had no idea JP Macura was a primary target for them. Regardless, Blueitt would be a great land for XU if he commits and signs. I think he would play the 2/3 along with Macura and both could easily co-exist on the same court. Randolph/Sumner playing the 1/2. We could even go small and play them all at the same time with Farr/Reynolds/O'Mara at the 5. I won't go all Butlerhoops forum members and implode if commits somewhere else, but it would be great to see him in an X uniform.

[Titanxman04]

I read maybe the final 20 pages of that butler board. They are intense. I had no idea JP Macura was a primary target for them. Regardless, Blueitt would be a great land for XU if he commits and signs. I think he would play the 2/3 along with Macura and both could easily co-exist on the same court. Randolph/Sumner playing the 1/2. We could even go small and play them all at the same time with Farr/Reynolds/O'Mara at the 5. I won't go all Butlerhoops forum members and implode if commits somewhere else, but it would be great to see him in an X uniform.

I just love the fact that when comparing the two schools, X seems to be ahead in both. Obviously we got one. The other is seemingly all but ours. Suck it Butler. Suck it long. Suck it hard.

[XU3232]

I'm hearing that he will be at Musketeer Madness on Friday... hope that is true and I hope there is a great turnout.

[Titanxman04]

I'm hearing that he will be at Musketeer Madness on Friday... hope that is true and I hope there is a great turnout.

Welcome to the board.

[Milhouse]

I read maybe the final 20 pages of that butler board. They are intense. I had no idea JP Macura was a primary target for them. Regardless, Blueitt would be a great land for XU if he commits and signs. I think he would play the 2/3 along with Macura and both could easily co-exist on the same court. Randolph/Sumner playing the 1/2. We could even go small and play them all at the same time with Farr/Reynolds/O'Mara at the 5. I won't go all Butlerhoops forum members and implode if commits somewhere else, but it would be great to see him in an X uniform.

He was about to commit then Stevens went to Boston.

Butlerhoops is imploding.

To be fair though They've joined the Big East and Absolutely nothing has gone their way.

We thought last summer was awful for X (and it was) but it could've been a lot worse as Butler is proving.

[paulxu]

Where's all this "inside" intelligence I read so much about to answer my question about practice?

[XU-PA]

From the Xavier Popes twitter
"Big time recruits want to play in big time conferences where they can be the big man on campus. Big East is it. Wait and see."

From Xavier Nation Twitter
"Hopefully some good news is just a few hours away X Nation!"

and from Rick Broering
"Latest on Trevon Bluiett (as of 1:45 pm) | http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=442&f=4604&t=12159318&p=7 …"

[Milhouse]

The Xavier Popes are not in the know at all. In fact they should do X nation a favor and delete their twitter.

[GoMuskies]

The Xavier Popes are great Americans. Just maybe not great Twitterers.

[PM Thor]

I am a little giddy. Can't help it, just love hearing that X "probably" gets a big recruit when outsiders and fans of other programs continually forecast the downfall of this program. Eating it up.

[Wildmanroom]

The Xavier Popes are great Americans. Just maybe not great Twitterers.

You do know that while DRESSED AS POPES, these young Americans walked through the concourse before the Butler game loudly chanting "F Butler" (only they didn't just say "F") for several minutes. I know kids can be stupid, but I was mostly surprised no adults or arena workers attempted to control them.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

All right guys, I feel like we are really pikers here. This is only 38 pages vs. Butler's 220+ page thread. They are clearly the better program based on this stat alone.

[GoMuskies]

You do know that while DRESSED AS POPES, these young Americans walked through the concourse before the Butler game loudly chanting "F Butler" (only they didn't just say "F") for several minutes.

This is how Pope Francis starts every day. Fact.

[xudash]

All right guys, I feel like we are really pikers here. This is only 38 pages vs. Butler's 220+ page thread. They are clearly the better program based on this stat alone.

Please present your findings in the form of charts and graphs. Thank you.

[bobbiemcgee]

CollegeRecruiting ‏@InsideBBRecruit 4h

"Trevon Bluiett had an in-home visit with Xavier last night, watching practice today, & Musketeer Madness and official visit this weekend."

Dunno who this guy is but
sounds encouraging.

Plus 247 has him as "WARMER" and X @ 56% now + the 16% who still have UCLA

http://247sports.com/Player/Trevon-Bluiett-14935

[GoMuskies]

CollegeRecruiting ‏@InsideBBRecruit 4h

Trevon Bluiett had an in-home visit with Xavier last night, watching practice today, & Musketeer Madness and official visit this weekend.

Dunno who this guy is buts sounds encouraging.

If he's spending this much time at Xavier, hopefully we brought in the Oklahoma State Orange Pride hostesses to keep him "entertained".

[waggy]

Plus 247 has him as "WARMER" and X @ 56% now.



Recruiting is fucking weird.

[Masterofreality]

If he's spending this much time at Xavier, hopefully we brought in the Oklahoma State Orange Pride hostesses to keep him "entertained".

Uh, his father is with him every second....

Probably not.

[GoMuskies]

Uh, his father is with him every second....

Probably not.

So you're saying we had to bring in an extra for his father?

[paulxu]

I hope he comes for the Madness and announces.

[TheDarksideUD]

They really are showing all the signs of being the new "dayton" fanbase. This is going to be fun!You need a new grill bro. Probably a new girl too. Buzz, your girlfriend... woof!

[SixFig]

So from the videos this guy looks like a really advanced, do it all version of Justin Cage? Does anyone have a better comparison?

[GoMuskies]

You need a new grill bro. Probably a new girl too. Buzz, your girlfriend... woof!

Goodbye

[Nigel Tufnel]

Ok...Mods, I think its time to ban this Darkside tool. Completely unacceptable post and not needed in this forum.

[Muskie]

Ok...Mods, I think its time to ban this Darkside tool. Completely unacceptable post and not needed in this forum.

Done

[Nigel Tufnel]

Thank you, Muskie.

[BandAid]

I may be mistaken, but isn't Titan's wife a UD grad? Way to take shots at one of your own, genius.

[Titanxman04]

I may be mistaken, but isn't Titan's wife a UD grad? Way to take shots at one of your own, genius.

She went to The University of Notre Dame du Lac. She doubled majored in art and pre-dental and then finished with high distinction at the University of Kentucky's College of Dentistry.

One of my groomsmen went to Dayton. But I knew him long before his dark ages.

That douche can rip my wife all he wants, she's still better than what he ever hopes to be tied down to. She's the shit. Period.

[XUPhilly04]

She went to The University of Notre Dame du Lac. She doubled majored in art and pre-dental and then finished with high distinction at the University of Kentucky's College of Dentistry.

One of my groomsmen went to Dayton. But I knew him long before his dark ages.

That douche can rip my wife all he wants, she's still better than what he ever hopes to be tied down to. She's the shit. Period.

And I'm sure he will go to UD broad and boast "well, at least when we win, we win with class." haha

[Titanxman04]

And I'm sure he will go to UD broad and boast "well, at least when we win, we win with class." haha

To each their own. They win with class and shake hands. We get stud recruits. I have an incredible wife. He wishes he could talk to a girl face to face.

[XUPhilly04]

Love the recruiting class as is, adding Blueitt would be the icing on the cake. With getting recruits from MI, TN, MN, IL in addition to our usual recruiting grounds in IN, OH, KY, and NY, it seems that our recruiting is no longer regional.

[Titanxman04]

Love the recruiting class as is, adding Blueitt would be the icing on the cake. With getting recruits from MI, TN, MN, IL in addition to our usual recruiting grounds in IN, OH, KY, and NY, it seems that our recruiting is no longer regional.

Xavier is a brand that's only growing. Is a product you invest in. These young men are investments and they see their time as the same. It's tough not to want the experience to be part of the structure that will be the Big East flagship.

[Muskie]

Reminder. Out of respect to Brian and Rick please don't divulge what they post over at Scout. As always I appreciate it. Don't want to interfere with their livelihoods (even if I can't guest on their fancy podcast). They do great work.

[Nigel Tufnel]

She went to The University of Notre Dame du Lac. She doubled majored in art and pre-dental and then finished with high distinction at the University of Kentucky's College of Dentistry.

One of my groomsmen went to Dayton. But I knew him long before his dark ages.

That douche can rip my wife all he wants, she's still better than what he ever hopes to be tied down to. She's the shit. Period.

Sorry you had to read that, Titan. I'd want to rip the f#€}s throat out if he posted that about my wife. But then, it's not worth it to go to jail over assault of a juvenile. He has to be a pasty, pimple faced 15 year old puke posting from his parents' basement somewhere in Dayton. I'm hoping it bothered me more than you.

[GIMMFD]

UD guy was a douche. That's final.

Blueitt situation seems interesting, I think he knows he could become a star here at Xavier, and has a good skill set. I'm really pumped about this move to the Big East, we are seeing an increase in talent level on all aspects of athletics, and I truly believe we will be running around with some 5 Star Recruits shortly... I smell a Final Four in the near future guys!!

[SpectorJersey]

Love the recruiting class as is, adding Blueitt would be the icing on the cake. With getting recruits from MI, TN, MN, IL in addition to our usual recruiting grounds in IN, OH, KY, and NY, it seems that our recruiting is no longer regional.

I dont think we are recruiting "national." A few exceptions were Brandon Randolph and Vez. Randolph out of desperation and Mack handled that directly and Vez was a one off thing. As Mack said in his show Monday they arent going to waste time on kids they have no shot at, going to stick to parts of the country where they have relationships. Macura for example was being recruited by Rick Carter at Missouri, then he came to X. Mack has lost a lot of assts in his tenure and at times has hurt recruiting bc that assistant takes that relationship with him, finally one bounced in our direction with Carter/Macura.

If X lands Blueitt no team in the country will benefit more from Brad Stevens leaving Butler. Both Macura and Blueitt were very high/leans on Butler.

Has recruiting and brand name improved? No doubt, but we arent going to recruit on a national level. Really only about 5 teams that can do that and IMO Kentucky/Kansas are really the only ones with that really strong pull today.

[xavierj]

I dont think we are recruiting "national." A few exceptions were Brandon Randolph and Vez. Randolph out of desperation and Mack handled that directly and Vez was a one off thing. As Mack said in his show Monday they arent going to waste time on kids they have no shot at, going to stick to parts of the country where they have relationships. Macura for example was being recruited by Rick Carter at Missouri, then he came to X. Mack has lost a lot of assts in his tenure and at times has hurt recruiting bc that assistant takes that relationship with him, finally one bounced in our direction with Carter/Macura.

If X lands Blueitt no team in the country will benefit more from Brad Stevens leaving Butler. Both Macura and Blueitt were very high/leans on Butler.

Has recruiting and brand name improved? No doubt, but we arent going to recruit on a national level. Really only about 5 teams that can do that and IMO Kentucky/Kansas are really the only ones with that really strong pull today.

You can call it national or whatever but xavier will recruit any area they thank they can land a kid. They may spend most of their time in the Midwest, east and south, but they will not totally ignore the southwest and West, and out of the country, as they have shown. As Chris has said, no stone unturned.

[Masterofreality]

I dont think we are recruiting "national." A few exceptions were Brandon Randolph and Vez. Randolph out of desperation and Mack handled that directly and Vez was a one off thing. As Mack said in his show Monday they arent going to waste time on kids they have no shot at, going to stick to parts of the country where they have relationships. Macura for example was being recruited by Rick Carter at Missouri, then he came to X. Mack has lost a lot of assts in his tenure and at times has hurt recruiting bc that assistant takes that relationship with him, finally one bounced in our direction with Carter/Macura.

If X lands Blueitt no team in the country will benefit more from Brad Stevens leaving Butler. Both Macura and Blueitt were very high/leans on Butler.

Has recruiting and brand name improved? No doubt, but we arent going to recruit on a national level. Really only about 5 teams that can do that and IMO Kentucky/Kansas are really the only ones with that really strong pull today.

This is excatly why you cannot have continual coach turnover. Butler losing Stevens proves it.

CMack and his assistants must be paid!

Give a shekel or two to the AFO!

[SpectorJersey]

You can call it national or whatever but xavier will recruit any area they thank they can land a kid. They may spend most of their time in the Midwest, east and south, but they will not totally ignore the southwest and West, and out of the country, as they have shown. As Chris has said, no stone unturned.

Recruiting the west is a waste of time, they are going to recruit where they have relationships. We dont recruit Texas but Melvin Swift committed bc he had one with Ashley Howard. If a top prospect is located in New Mexico we dont have a shot, but Kentucky can call that kid up and get in the door no problem. Randolph was an exception bc we got turned down by every other prospect.

To say we dont recruit on a national level is not a slam, as a AFO donor I prefer X to not waste money flying all over the country chasing kids. How big of a waste of money was the Chris Thomas recruitment?

[Milhouse]

I dont think we are recruiting "national." A few exceptions were Brandon Randolph and Vez. Randolph out of desperation and Mack handled that directly and Vez was a one off thing..

Kind of confused about Randolph out of desperation bit here...how was he out of desperation? I think if anything that argument could be made about Kamall Richards.

The more that's said about him the more it seems as though he will contribute a LOT this year.

[Titanxman04]

Kind of confused about Randolph out of desperation bit here...how was he out of desperation? I think if anything that argument could be made about Kamall Richards.

The more that's said about him the more it seems as though he will contribute a LOT this year.

Agreed. Everything that I've heard about the kid is that he's liek one of those "fell out of the sky and Mack didn't hesitate to take advantage" type situation. The kid decommitted come his original school (Pepperdine?) and Mack and the guys didn't waste another moment going after him. He was a player that was under the radar for most of his recruitment.

[SpectorJersey]

Milhouse, Mack and staff had whiffed on every priority recruit. Yea Kamall was desperation as well but they needed to add something to that class that could contribute. Mack was lucky to find a top rated kid that had decommited from a smaller school and was a late bloomer. Maybe desperation wasnt the right word, but they had to go out of their comfort zone to save a recruiting class. Mack handled that one on his own. That year had they landed EC Matthews from Michigan, I doubt they would have gone out to CA to get Brandon.

[kyxu]

Brandon Randolph was not a desperation recruit. Plain and simple.

[paulxu]

After what seems like years where we didn't have a full roster, next year (if Bluiett commits) we would have 2 over the limit.
I guess there is an assumption that Semaj will turn pro, but what about the other guys?
If the 5 (with Bluiett) sign LOI's, I assume they are guaranteed a scholarship.
At this point does the staff/team know of someone else who isn't returning...or is it a competition of sorts during the year to be re-offered the scholarship a player currently has?

[ammtd34]

My uneducated guess is that Martin leaves after he graduates.

[danaandvictory]

The numbers always "work themselves out" - in realistic terms I think you can bank on Semaj departing for the NBA and then a transfer out (which would include the possibility of Justin Martin doing a grad year elsewhere).

[Titanxman04]

The numbers always "work themselves out" - in realistic terms I think you can bank on Semaj departing for the NBA and then a transfer out (which would include the possibility of Justin Martin doing a grad year elsewhere).

With the class coming in, unless Martin has just a stellar year, I'd expect him to move on and do a graduate program at another school.

[Milhouse]

There's also going to be a lot of competition at several spots some kids might want to transfer for more playing time elsewhere. Ala Canty/Latham/McKenzie. We could also have one of the players decide to do a prep year as well.


I honestly am so happy we're not taking Melvin Swift. More I think he was likely to be another Robinson/Martin. Very gifted Athletically but basketball IQ is just not there. I think he made the right call dropping the scholly.

[Titanxman04]

There's also going to be a lot of competition at several spots some kids might want to transfer for more playing time elsewhere. Ala Canty/Latham/McKenzie. We could also have one of the players decide to do a prep year as well.


I honestly am so happy we're not taking Melvin Swift. More I think he was likely to be another Robinson/Martin. Very gifted Athletically but basketball IQ is just not there. I think he made the right call dropping the scholly.

I remember thinking that losing him was such a big blow. And while I think he could have added some things to the team, we certainly more than made up for him...on paper at least.

[Milhouse]

He would've been very far down the bench especially with London/Reynolds in front of him.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

London > Swift....and if you consider Swift being a natural 3 maybe at the DI level the recruitment of Blueitt is also a massive upgrade.

Randolph I think was a guy that for whatever reason was missed even by the teams out west. A 6'1 speedster who can get in the lane and is an above average shooter? I think missing on him is a reason why West Coast ball is a tad behind everyone else.

[XUFan09]

Yeah, it was inexplicable how he got passed up by PAC-12 and Mountain West teams. The only other major school seriously recruiting him was Missouri, which isn't exactly nearby either. We got really lucky on that one.

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[xudash]

Is he coming for MM or not?

From the MSU BOARD:

9 minutes ago


Bluiett's HS coach told me today that nothing else is currently scheduled with Xavier. In my opinion, the longer this goes the better for MSU.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Is he coming for MM or not?

From the MSU BOARD:

9 minutes ago


Bluiett's HS coach told me today that nothing else is currently scheduled with Xavier. In my opinion, the longer this goes the better for MSU.

Now you got me, is he coming for an official this weekend or not?

[JTG]

Is he coming for MM or not?

From the MSU BOARD:

9 minutes ago


Bluiett's HS coach told me today that nothing else is currently scheduled with Xavier. In my opinion, the longer this goes the better for MSU.

This is starting to get sticky, supposedly Butler is going to Park Tudor today for a visit.

[Milhouse]

This is starting to get sticky, supposedly Butler is going to Park Tudor today for a visit.

Memphis as well.

apparently an in home with MSU this afternoon.

All twitter reports I saw.

[xavierj]

All of this will look so much better on FS1 tomorrow when they announce that Xavier received a commitment from Trevon over Michigan St., Memphis, and Butler.

[paulxu]

Let's all get into a car and drive to this Park Tudor place, wherever that is.

[xudash]

I hope this is his decision. I hope his father supports his decision.

What is left to learn here?

Then again, it is their process.

[xudash]

Let's all get into a car and drive to this Park Tudor place, wherever that is.

They'll have better attendance today than a Butler home game.

[bleedXblue]

Hopeully he's notfying them that he's going to be attending Xavier and telling them the news in person. Thats the classy way of handing it.

[paulxu]

I think X might be in a good position because of its location.
Picking UCLA he obviously wanted to get a little distance from his home.
That may have been too far. Butler is not away; he'd have to go home for Sunday dinner.
Only MSU and X left. Easier for his folks to get to his games at X, and still be away.

Then again, I thought the Reds might be in the world series...so there's that.

[Juice]

I think X might be in a good position because of its location.
Picking UCLA he obviously wanted to get a little distance from his home.
That may have been too far. Butler is not away; he'd have to go home for Sunday dinner.
Only MSU and X left. Easier for his folks to get to his games at X, and still be away.

Then again, I thought the Reds might be in the world series...so there's that.

He picked UCLA because one of his former coaches got a coaching position there.

[ballyhoohoo]

Let's all get into a car and drive to this Park Tudor place, wherever that is.

It's in College Ave just north of broad ripple

[GoMuskies]

I told you we needed to bring in the Orange Pride.

[Titanxman04]

I told you we needed to bring in the Orange Pride.

But you said Orange Pride was from Oklahoma St. Reading "The System" (as we recommended by someone on here), isn't Orange Pride from Tennessee?

[GoMuskies]

But you said Orange Pride was from Oklahoma St. Reading "The System" (as we recommended by someone on here), isn't Orange Pride from Tennessee?

Perhaps, but it's also OK State. And we KNOW these ladies work hard. No pictures in the link, so don't get excited.

http://www.okstate.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/orange-pride.html

[Milhouse]

But you said Orange Pride was from Oklahoma St. Reading "The System" (as we recommended by someone on here), isn't Orange Pride from Tennessee?

Great read. Currently finishing it up. Wish there was a version of this for College Basketball.

[Titanxman04]

Great read. Currently finishing it up. Wish there was a version of this for College Basketball.

Got a couple chapters in and have struggled trying to find time to pick it back up. But I already suggest it to everyone.

Do we have "Xavier Pride" girls?

[GoMuskies]

Do we have "Xavier Pride" girls?

Yes, three of them are pictured here:

http://liveatustation.com/files/2012/10/Diverse-Students-Outside-1047-804x536.jpg

[MHettel]

Yeah, it was inexplicable how he got passed up by PAC-12 and Mountain West teams. The only other major school seriously recruiting him was Missouri, which isn't exactly nearby either. We got really lucky on that one.

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pretty sure Washington was recruiting him as well. I think Mizzou and XU were his final 2, but other decent schools did get involved.

[paulxu]

Do we have "Xavier Pride" girls?

No. But we have the "Xavier Way" Women!

[Ledgewood]

No. But we have the "Xavier Way" Women!

In college, I liked the women then went both Xavier Ways.


Ahhh, that wasn't that good.

[xudash]

In college, I liked the women then went both Xavier Ways.


Ahhh, that wasn't that good.

Effort ribbon for you...

[xudash]

Is this like that Dayton kid with the overbearing father of a couple years ago:

Chip Sylvie ‏@IllianaAAU 22 Oct
The problem with Bluiett is that his father is asking coaches to stick with him in regards to their wing play. Wants a guarantee of PT

Ah, the pleasures of too much info on the Internet.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

The 3 chicks in that photo are better than 90% of the women that were there when I was a student.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Is this like that Dayton kid with the overbearing father of a couple years ago:

Chip Sylvie ‏@IllianaAAU 22 Oct
The problem with Bluiett is that his father is asking coaches to stick with him in regards to their wing play. Wants a guarantee of PT

Ah, the pleasures of too much info on the Internet.

Dad needs to get a clue that he is just inside the top 50 not 10.

[LA Muskie]

You can call it national or whatever but xavier will recruit any area they thank they can land a kid. They may spend most of their time in the Midwest, east and south, but they will not totally ignore the southwest and West, and out of the country, as they have shown. As Chris has said, no stone unturned.
Actually he said that we don't have time to waste, so we recruit where and when our staff has contacts. There are a few outliers, but we (and most staffs) recruit in their wheelhouse.

[paulxu]

Wants a guarantee of PT

I'm so old I remember this was something you earned in practice.

[Xaveriana]

No PT guarantees. It may be time for XU to walk-away. PT is earned not guaranteed. This could be a problem in the making. Don't want players that don't whole-heartedly want to be here.

[SixFig]

Can't see how playing time will be guaranteed.

Justin Martin (SR) Remy Abell (JR) and Kamall RIchard (SO) will all be a factor for time at the SF

Then again who knows about any of them...

[xavierj]

No PT guarantees. It may be time for XU to walk-away. PT is earned not guaranteed. This could be a problem in the making. Don't want players that don't whole-heartedly want to be here.

Relax. He is not asking for guatrenteed time. This kid thinks he is good enough to he in the NBA in two years. He believes he will start day 1 wherever he goes.

[bobbiemcgee]

Chip Sylvie ‏@IllianaAAU 22 Oct
The problem with Bluiett is that his father is asking coaches to stick with him in regards to their wing play. Wants a guarantee of PT
[/QUOTE]

this guy is a crean clone, so wouldn't believe anything he has to say. Can't imagine the Dad saying that to Izzo, Mack or anyone else. They know the score.

[xudash]

Chip Sylvie ‏@IllianaAAU 22 Oct
The problem with Bluiett is that his father is asking coaches to stick with him in regards to their wing play. Wants a guarantee of PT


this guy is a crean clone, so wouldn't believe anything he has to say. Can't imagine the Dad saying that to Izzo, Mack or anyone else. They know the score.[/QUOTE]

Thanks.

Like I wrote earlier, too much info out there.

Thought I would share it. Just hope he's still coming tomorrow - let's end this, this...whAt do you call this?

[bobbiemcgee]

On Xavier: “I have a good relationship with (assistant coach Travis) Steele and coach (Chris) Mack. I’ve been having a good relationship with them since about the eighth grade. They are still at the top; I still like them. We just need to see how everything plays out from here on out.”

IndyStar

[LA Muskie]

On Xavier: “I have a good relationship with (assistant coach Travis) Steele and coach (Chris) Mack. I’ve been having a good relationship with them since about the eighth grade. They are still at the top; I still like them. We just need to see how everything plays out from here on out.”

IndyStar

I think this is a weeks-old quote.

[bobbiemcgee]

Monday 10/21, but might as well be weeks or months ago in the recruiting world.

Looks like Izzo is back in Indy today:

http://zagsblog.com/recruiting/tom-izzo-to-meet-friday-with-trevon-bluiett/

[GoMuskies]

The 3 chicks in that photo are better than 90% of the women that were there when I was a student.

To be clear, I wasn't making fun of the looks of Xavier ladies. I was making fun of the photo from the University Station website.

[Charlesbt4]

I cannot even imagine being Bluiett's age and having adults beating down my door like they are his. Frankly, it's almost a little pathetic, if you think about it. With that said, come to Xavier.

[XU-PA]

I cannot even imagine being Bluiett's age and having adults beating down my door like they are his. Frankly, it's almost a little pathetic, if you think about it. With that said, come to Xavier.

athletic recruiting has always been a weird world. the internet and explosion of right now social media and not always accurate information makes it 1000% weirder

[THill42]

Any recent word on whether or not he will be in attendance tonight?

[Muskie]

Doubtful if he's got an in home with Izzo today. Park Tudor gets out at 3 (I'll look to see if they are on Fall Break, but I believe that was a few weeks ago). In home with Izzo for a couple of hours would make it a tight squeeze to make to Cincy by 7.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

To be clear, I wasn't making fun of the looks of Xavier ladies. I was making fun of the photo from the University Station website.

Me either, I was merely stating a fact. I do remember a few that were lights out fantastic when I was there circa 95-98. However, those 10% that were amazing are pretty close to the norm where I am in Az.

I remember being shocked the day I moved out here.

[paulxu]

Doubtful if he's got an in home with Izzo today. Park Tudor gets out at 3 (I'll look to see if they are on Fall Break, but I believe that was a few weeks ago). In home with Izzo for a couple of hours would make it a tight squeeze to make to Cincy by 7.

Perfect for 9 PM Fox highlight show to announce he's coming to X!

[bobbiemcgee]

Doubtful if he's got an in home with Izzo today. Park Tudor gets out at 3 (I'll look to see if they are on Fall Break, but I believe that was a few weeks ago). In home with Izzo for a couple of hours would make it a tight squeeze to make to Cincy by 7.

You could drive him over in your batmobile, but watch out for the cops in Shelbyville.

[xavierj]

The visit with Izzo is at the high school, not his house.

[LA Muskie]

If he's meeting with Izzo today I very much doubt he'll be at MM.

[LA Muskie]

Me either, I was merely stating a fact. I do remember a few that were lights out fantastic when I was there circa 95-98. However, those 10% that were amazing are pretty close to the norm where I am in Az.

I remember being shocked the day I moved out here.

10% is a very very generous number. And those who know me are well aware that my standards were not particularly high in college.

[Muskie]

Perfect for 9 PM Fox highlight show to announce he's coming to X!

I think the 9pm highlight show by fox will probably be coverage of pretaped stuff ? Is there a live look in? I'm not sure how late Musketeers Madness goes?

[toledodan]

I think the 9pm highlight show by fox will probably be coverage of pretaped stuff ? Is there a live look in? I'm not sure how late Musketeers Madness goes?

correct

[xu 89]

I think the 9pm highlight show by fox will probably be coverage of pretaped stuff ? Is there a live look in? I'm not sure how late Musketeers Madness goes?

It's a 2 hour live show 9-11pm with many of the pieces previously taped. There will be live "look-ins". Xavier's piece runs at 9:35 and will have a taped interview with Coach Mack.

[Titanxman04]

I'm just excited to be able to watch the coverage. Interested to see how Fox Sports 1 does.

[casualfan]

I'm just excited to be able to watch the coverage. Interested to see how Fox Sports 1 does.


Yep. Been reading that FS1's ratings for the football season have been pretty poor. Hopefully it picks up for basketball season.

[Titanxman04]

Yep. Been reading that FS1's ratings for the football season have been pretty poor. Hopefully it picks up for basketball season.

I have always checked to see what games are on. Typically, their games are pretty piss-poor. When ESPN has a solid SEC match up and they are playing SJST vs. Fresno St.... Sorry, there's no contest there. I did watch their Oregon/Wash game though. I thought they did a good job of production and all, but their lineups just aren't there.

[wkrq59]

I remember when ESPN was starting out with backyard jarts. Look, no matter what, we as alumni and Xavier fans can create interest in our program by watching FOX1 especially if it is in our area free. Now I'm not a very Bright Bear, but if I were a Fox exec. looking at ratings and areas where the interest is strong no matter what, I'd be thinking that when Xavier and say DePaul are playing and St. John's and Seton Hall are squaring off at the same time I might just consider giving X the better play if that's the way it's often done. I still believe the squeeking wheel gets the grease and nothing squeeks louder than ratings. And frankly nothing bores me more than Ole Miss playing Kentucky or South Carolina as compared to San Jose playing Fresno or Oregon playing Lil Sisters. But then I like Oregon's style of play because you never know which of the mileau of uniforms they're gonna be wearing and they don't bore me, ever.
:disturbed::mad::blackeye:

[casualfan]

I have always checked to see what games are on. Typically, their games are pretty piss-poor. When ESPN has a solid SEC match up and they are playing SJST vs. Fresno St.... Sorry, there's no contest there. I did watch their Oregon/Wash game though. I thought they did a good job of production and all, but their lineups just aren't there.

My hope was that football season would create some momentum for the channel heading into bball season. Unfortunately that hasn't happened.

I'll be real interested to see what the bball ratings look like.

[Milhouse]

What CFB games do they even have though? B12?

[toledodan]

i agree. however with fox sports one just launching in aug they will prob get better game choices next season. i would imagine espn had the upper hand on game choices.

[xudash]

What CFB games do they even have though? B12?

B12 and PAC 12, I believe.

[Masterofreality]

Me either, I was merely stating a fact. I do remember a few that were lights out fantastic when I was there circa 95-98. However, those 10% that were amazing are pretty close to the norm where I am in Az.

I remember being shocked the day I moved out here.

My son went to Arizona State for two years. Hubba Hubba!

[paulxu]

Him and Dawn.

[xudash]

Any word on Izzo 's visit today?

[DC Muskie]

Yep. Been reading that FS1's ratings for the football season have been pretty poor. Hopefully it picks up for basketball season.

That's going to e tough, because ratings for basketball overall are pretty poor.

More people watched that terrible Monday Night football game than any World Series game. Never ceases to amaze me how gambling dominates ratings.

[XUPhilly04]

That's going to e tough, because ratings for basketball overall are pretty poor.

More people watched that terrible Monday Night football game than any World Series game. Never ceases to amaze me how gambling dominates ratings.

In general, it never ceases to amaze me the things people spend their money on, especially gambling. With the football ratings, I think lot of it due to fantasy football. Also, baseball is too much a regional sport, so when the World Series doesn't have your team in it, I doubt that many really it. In general, the NFL has done an amazing job marketing its players. Same for the NBA. Everyone knows Brady, the Mannings, Brees, maybe even RG3, but does the casual fan recognize the elite players in MLB? Some might think Jeter is still elite. NHL has it much worse than MLB, as the only player I see marketed is "Sid the Kid". Otherwise, if I see a NHL player on tv, I have to see the name on the back of the jersey to know who he is.

P.S. Sorry in advance if this starts the tread to go off topic.

[Juice]

In general, it never ceases to amaze me the things people spend their money on, especially gambling. With the football ratings, I think lot of it due to fantasy football. Also, baseball is too much a regional sport, so when the World Series doesn't have your team in it, I doubt that many really it. In general, the NFL has done an amazing job marketing its players. Same for the NBA. Everyone knows Brady, the Mannings, Brees, maybe even RG3, but does the casual fan recognize the elite players in MLB? Some might think Jeter is still elite. NHL has it much worse than MLB, as the only player I see marketed is "Sid the Kid". Otherwise, if I see a NHL player on tv, I have to see the name on the back of the jersey to know who he is.

P.S. Sorry in advance if this starts the tread to go off topic.

The other reason is that the NFL only has 16 games so every game is "important". It's tough to replicate that over a 162 or 82 game season. Also, rednecks love football.

[Masterofreality]

Latest predictions on 247 Sports still have TB going to X.....that is, except for two toothless, inbred writers from Memphis, who of course predict the rat-infested river pit.

[XUPhilly04]

The other reason is that the NFL only has 16 games so every game is "important". It's tough to replicate that over a 162 http://www.xavierhoops.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=409665or 82 game season. Also, rednecks love football.

Also, can you accurately say which day of the week XU, the Reds, etc. play? For your NFL team, its always Sunday, with a Thursday or Monday night game thrown in. Also, how often do we ask, which channel is the XU game on?

[paulxu]

Also, rednecks love football.

ND fan?

I'd like the title of this thread to be changed to "Bluiett Commits to Xavier."

Did they introduce any of the recruits in house last night, or does that violate some NCAA rule?

[casualfan]

Richard Deitsch ‏@richarddeitsch 17h
Fox College Saturday drew 69,000 viewers last week. At the same time, "My Little Pony Freindship Is Magic" on Hub Network drew 280,000.

[XUPhilly04]

ND fan?

I'd like the title of this thread to be changed to "Bluiett Commits to Xavier."

Did they introduce any of the recruits in house last night, or does that violate some NCAA rule?

Per Butler broad, K.J. Walton, and Rick Smits' kid, both Butler targets. Butler Board people were all crying about it last night.

[Juice]

ND fan?

I'd like the title of this thread to be changed to "Bluiett Commits to Xavier."

Did they introduce any of the recruits in house last night, or does that violate some NCAA rule?

Far from it, but notice the clientele at a NFL game compared to a Reds or XU game.

[Masterofreality]

Was Walton at XU last night?

I know that Smits and his dad were.

[XUPhilly04]

Was Walton at XU last night?

I know that Smits and his dad were.

Per the Butler broad, yes, K.J. Walton was at XU last night. I'm just restating what posters there stated, which followed bitching and moaning of how they cannot beat XU in the recruiting battles, and should they fire the new coach already. Whether these recruits being there means anything, we shall see, but lets be honest, even if a prospect was leaning strongly to Butler, how can you go to the Butler scrimmage over MM last night. MM is one hell of a party!

[JTG]

Far from it, but notice the clientele at a NFL game compared to a Reds or XU game.

Who's at a REDS game farmers and people in their 70s ?

[cheeba]

Just checked out the twitter page for Bluiett, he just started following MSU future player Javon Bess. Hopefully that doesn't mean anything but not holding my breath now

[XUFan09]

Just checked out the twitter page for Bluiett, he just started following MSU future player Javon Bess. Hopefully that doesn't mean anything but not holding my breath now

They probably just met on that visit last week.

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[Nildogg]

They probably just met on that visit last week.

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Since I'm fairly confident that BU is not going to get him, I'm not sure if I should want him to stay in the BE to make the conference stronger, or just be happy you aren't going to get him, but I'd be willing to wager a fair amount that TB is going to MSU...

[Charlesbt4]

With no inside information, I must say that this has to be one of the strangest recruitments I've seen in a long, long time. Impressively, it has all been condensed into a three to four week period.

[Nildogg]

Since I'm fairly confident that BU is not going to get him, I'm not sure if I should want him to stay in the BE to make the conference stronger, or just be happy you aren't going to get him, but I'd be willing to wager a fair amount that TB is going to MSU...


With that said, he'll probably end up at Purdue. This is a circus.

[xudash]

From the whatever it's worth department - fresh post from the MSU board:

Ludicrous Speed 784 posts
Not looking good:
@G2_Blog: I know I have a lot of Sparty followers - you're probably not going to like the news you get from a certain Indy area recruit.
62 minutes ago via 247Sports Mobile
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Perhaps this was a long, careful affirmation of his decision to select Xavier. Why wouldn't you listen to an Izzo if he came calling?

Maybe some good news forthcoming soon, or during next week, or not at all...

[XUFan09]

Since I'm fairly confident that BU is not going to get him, I'm not sure if I should want him to stay in the BE to make the conference stronger, or just be happy you aren't going to get him, but I'd be willing to wager a fair amount that TB is going to MSU...

Don't think so.

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[BandAid]

Maybe some good news forthcoming soon, or during next week, or not at all...

Well, I guess that settles it

[xudash]

Arrogance run a muck: http://http://michiganstate.247sports.com/Board/95/14-IN-SF-Trevon-Bluiett-Michigan-State-offer--22079008/15

[GoMuskies]

I hope they're right to be spewing the sour grapes already. This is going to be a fantastic class (on paper) if so.

[Musketeer_15]

247sports reports that Bluiett took an unofficial visit to campus yesterday. Hopefully we get some good news soon!

[xudash]

247sports reports that Bluiett took an unofficial visit to campus yesterday. Hopefully we get some good news soon!

Thanks for sharing. That's good news!

Between him coming back over to Galactic Headquarters AFTER the Izzo visit and the rumors bubbling on the MSU board, I like where this is headed..at least for the next hour or two, until some new development intercedes.