College Football Thread-2013

[Masterofreality]

Lets start it off with a nice swift kick in the ass to Notre Dame fan....by Clay Travis.

Hilarious, but true.

http://outkickthecoverage.com/the-ten-dumbest-fan-bases-in-america-5-notre-dame.php

[GoMuskies]

I cannot wait for Western Kentucky/Kentucky Saturday night. Bobby Petrino opening up the WKU chapter of his career against a bad UK team? That's gonna be a fun one to watch.

[paulxu]

I cannot wait for Western Kentucky/Kentucky Saturday night. Bobby Petrino opening up the WKU chapter of his career against a bad UK team?

That's a Clown(ey) Question Bro

[Milhouse]

Lets start it off with a nice swift kick in the ass to Notre Dame fan....by Clay Travis.

Hilarious, but true.

http://outkickthecoverage.com/the-ten-dumbest-fan-bases-in-america-5-notre-dame.php

Born and Raised in South Bend, Indiana, Both Parents went to ND and have been employed by the University. Family has had season tickets my entire life. We travel somewhat frequently to away/neutral/bowl games. But I have to say I completely agree with this.

I hate bandwagon fans and ND has the BANDWAGON of BANDWAGON fans. I always feel it necessary to list all my affiliations to the school because of this. I don't want to be associated with all those people that like ND because they're catholic or they watched them growing up etc...my childhood home is walking distance from Campus and I grew up going to tailgates and games every saturday in the fall. ND even paid for my X education (75% of it at least) so I'll always be greatful to the school.

That said I cannot wait for this Weekend! Last game I attended was in Miami and I need the taste washed out of my mouth ASAP.


LETS GO IRISH.

[gladdenguy]

I told my students today is Christmas for me.....and it lasts til Monday.

College football is by FAR my favorite sport. There is nothing like the changing season to autumn and a Saturday full of college football.

I am excited. Let the games begin.

[ammtd34]

Born and Raised in South Bend, Indiana, Both Parents went to ND and have been employed by the University. Family has had season tickets my entire life. We travel somewhat frequently to away/neutral/bowl games. But I have to say I completely agree with this.

I hate bandwagon fans and ND has the BANDWAGON of BANDWAGON fans. I always feel it necessary to list all my affiliations to the school because of this. I don't want to be associated with all those people that like ND because they're catholic or they watched them growing up etc...my childhood home is walking distance from Campus and I grew up going to tailgates and games every saturday in the fall. ND even paid for my X education (75% of it at least) so I'll always be greatful to the school.

That said I cannot wait for this Weekend! Last game I attended was in Miami and I need the taste washed out of my mouth ASAP.


LETS GO IRISH.

I didn't go to school there, but two uncles and three cousins did. I went to my first game when I was 5 and have been to at least one home game every year since, including this Saturday. While I'm not as connected to the school as you, I don't consider myself a bandwagoner. I understand if other people do, but I don't really care. I'll meet four alum friends up there Saturday and cheer my ass off.

Living in Centerville and working in Springfield leads me to believe, though, that OSU might have the worst bandwagon fans. I know more about Ohio State than the "die hards" that I work with, but I suppose those people exist everywhere. They just piss me off.

[blueblob06]

I agreed with Gladden Guy. I freaking love when college football season starts! Can't wait to see Clowney eat QBs tonight!

[Milhouse]

I didn't go to school there, but two uncles and three cousins did. I went to my first game when I was 5 and have been to at least one home game every year since, including this Saturday. While I'm not as connected to the school as you, I don't consider myself a bandwagoner. I understand if other people do, but I don't really care. I'll meet four alum friends up there Saturday and cheer my ass off.

Living in Centerville and working in Springfield leads me to believe, though, that OSU might have the worst bandwagon fans. I know more about Ohio State than the "die hards" that I work with, but I suppose those people exist everywhere. They just piss me off.

No you're not a band wagoner. You have ties and history with the team. The Bandwagoners only come out when the team starts to do well, such as last year.

OSU fans are awful. Working in Dayton and Living in Cincinnati I see way too many of them and of variety.

I'll be up there Saturday as well. Looking to be the absolute perfect weekend for Football in Northern Indiana. CANNOT WAIT TO GET OUT OF BUCKEYE TERRITORY TOMORROW.

[Masterofreality]

Born and Raised in South Bend, Indiana, Both Parents went to ND and have been employed by the University. Family has had season tickets my entire life. We travel somewhat frequently to away/neutral/bowl games. But I have to say I completely agree with this.

I hate bandwagon fans and ND has the BANDWAGON of BANDWAGON fans. I always feel it necessary to list all my affiliations to the school because of this. I don't want to be associated with all those people that like ND because they're catholic or they watched them growing up etc...my childhood home is walking distance from Campus and I grew up going to tailgates and games every saturday in the fall. ND even paid for my X education (75% of it at least) so I'll always be greatful to the school.

That said I cannot wait for this Weekend! Last game I attended was in Miami and I need the taste washed out of my mouth ASAP.


LETS GO IRISH.

Thank goodness you took that with the humor that Travis intended.

There are real Notre Dame fans, just like I am a die hard, true Xavier grad and fan, but the wanna-bes from places like Bethlehem, PA and Danbury, CT just kill me....and are comical as well.

[paulxu]

The Bandwagoners only come out when the team starts to do well, such as last year.

Thanks for playing. #SEC

[ammtd34]

My boss, Brady Hoke's first cousin, called me into his office today.

"How do you make Notre Dame cookies?"

I don't know.

"Put 'em in a bowl and beat 'em for 2 hours."

Fair enough, I said. Fair enough.

[GoMuskies]

It was announced today that Louisville will play Auburn in one of those kick-off classics in Atlanta in 2015. I guess I could have started the College Football Thread - 2015 early with that news.

[paulxu]

What happens if Louisville goes undefeated this year? They should, as there is no challenge really in their schedule. (I don't think they are slated to play any ranked teams at this point.)

Do they get to play for National Championship if that is the case?

[Milhouse]

Thanks for playing. #SEC

Life as a college sports fan would be a lot easier if I could cheer for an entire conference. Unfortunately not the case.

I'll say the gamecocks have to be one of the programs in the SEC I don't mind. Spurrier seems to get quality guys in there. Granted you got the Great Lou Holtz to thank for where you are now.

Can't stand the SEC one bit.

[Milhouse]

What happens if Louisville goes undefeated this year? They should, as there is no challenge really in their schedule. (I don't think they are slated to play any ranked teams at this point.)

Do they get to play for National Championship if that is the case?

I think they start at #9 or so. I would imagine if they go undefeated they play for the NC. Unless two current teams ranked higher go undefeated as well...rather unlikely I'd say.

[GoMuskies]

What happens if Louisville goes undefeated this year? They should, as there is no challenge really in their schedule. (I don't think they are slated to play any ranked teams at this point.)

Do they get to play for National Championship if that is the case?

Depends on what happens with a number of other teams. I suspect that they would probably just miss out, but it would be very, very close, and one or two things turning in their favor would get them in.

I'm afraid they're going to be 11-0 going to Nippert in December and lose.

[paulxu]

Life as a college sports fan would be a lot easier if I could cheer for an entire conference. Unfortunately not the case.

I'll say the gamecocks have to be one of the programs in the SEC I don't mind. Spurrier seems to get quality guys in there. Granted you got the Great Lou Holtz to thank for where you are now.

Can't stand the SEC one bit.

I do cheer for the Cocks, but since I went to X when we had football, my heart will always be there. As for the rest of the SEC, I just want the Cocks to pound them into submission. We need to win the SEC bad...like X needs to go to the Final Four.

I also like when the Cocks play OSU; that has worked out well.


I think they start at #9 or so. I would imagine if they go undefeated they play for the NC. Unless two current teams ranked higher go undefeated as well...rather unlikely I'd say.

That's really the rub. If Louisville goes undefeated, and doesn't play anyone, but one of those other teams has one loss to a ranked team, what happens?

[paulxu]

I'm afraid they're going to be 11-0 going to Nippert in December and lose.

I'm going to hold you personally responsible if that happens.

(It won't. Bridgewater will carve them up like a turkey)

[GoMuskies]

The Cocks start the season with a big ole eff you to the UNC defense.

[paulxu]

This is going well so far.

[GoMuskies]

Tide seems to have turned in this one.

[paulxu]

Our defense wishes that had happened so they could get a bigger rest.

[Muskie]

75 yd TD run by South Carolina.

[GoMuskies]

Tide did not stay turned for long!

[GoMuskies]

Glad I don't have to defend the Big East....err, AAC football anymore. UConn in serious danger of losing to Towson. Then again, us AAC types can really puff out our chests and be proud of what UCF is doing to Akron....right? Right?

[waggy]

Haven't seen Glow around for awhile. Isn't he an Ole Miss fan? I could be in trouble if I got the wrong Miss school.

[waggy]

#87 for Vandy!! Badass.

[waggy]

What the hell just happened? I was busy hatin GuyFawkes and Ol Miss scores!

[blueblob06]

Good start for the AAC, with UConn losing to a Division 2 school (I know that's not what it's called anymore).

I don't really see how we will be able to know how good Lville is if they go 12-0 with their schedule. No one on their slate is even sniffing the top 25. If UC has a nice start, maybe they can jump into the rankings. But still, more than likely, zero games against the top 15.
If an Oregon or Alabama type team has 1 loss and has played several ranked teams a piece, I think the BCS standings will have them ahead of Lville. Would love to see a 4-team playoff, but we have another year of this shitty system to get through.

One other thing that jumped out at me...Tennessee has 6 game stretch where these are 5 of the games:
@ #3 Oregon
@ #10 FL
vs #5 GA
vs #6 SCAR
@ #1 Bama
WOW!

[casualfan]

Good start for the AAC, with UConn losing to a Division 2 school (I know that's not what it's called anymore).

I don't really see how we will be able to know how good Lville is if they go 12-0 with their schedule. No one on their slate is even sniffing the top 25. If UC has a nice start, maybe they can jump into the rankings. But still, more than likely, zero games against the top 15.
If an Oregon or Alabama type team has 1 loss and has played several ranked teams a piece, I think the BCS standings will have them ahead of Lville. Would love to see a 4-team playoff, but we have another year of this shitty system to get through.

One other thing that jumped out at me...Tennessee has 6 game stretch where these are 5 of the games:
@ #3 Oregon
@ #10 FL
vs #5 GA
vs #6 SCAR
@ #1 Bama
WOW!

I don't think it will matter re: Louisville because I doubt they make it through undefeated. They are a very good team and Bridgewater is the truth, but I think people are overrating them a bit. The majority of their hype is based on beating a Florida team who admittedly had packed it in once they got knocked out of the championship race.

Just look at them last year:

They beat North Carolina by 5.
They beat FIU by 7
They beat an 0-12 Southern Miss team by 4 (albeit in some of the worst playing conditions ive seen).
They beat a 3-9 USF team by 2 at home.
They squeeked by UC by 3 in OT thanks in large part to UC playing the wrong QB
They got absolutely smoked by Syracuse 45-26.
They lost to an awful UCONN team who ended up 5-7.
They squeeked by Rutgers by 3.


That is 6 games last year they won by less than a score and two others they lost that they had no business losing.

Their schedule is weak this year, but it was weak last year too.

[blueblob06]

Good stuff there. Can't agree more about that schedule. If Lville goes 12-0 with the cakewalk that they have, I'm gonna guess that ANY SEC/ACC/PAC12/B12/B10 school that only has 1 loss would be ahead of them.

[gladdenguy]

What happens if Louisville goes undefeated this year? They should, as there is no challenge really in their schedule. (I don't think they are slated to play any ranked teams at this point.)

Do they get to play for National Championship if that is the case?

What about UConn and Rutgers?

That America What the F$$k conference sucks.

Louisville should not play in the National Championship because their schedule sucks just like Ohio State and sUCks schedules. Ohio State dodges Nebraska and Michigan St. and plays nobody outside of conference. Louisville and sUCks play nobody outside of conference and their conference is pathetic.

Other Thursday musings:
Laquon Treadwell is a stud. I am pissed Mississippi is now paying players because Michigan could have landed him.

Lane Kiffin should be fired some time this year. USC sucks again.

And Clowney is overrated. He made one play on Vincent Smith last year where he wasn't blocked and he is a media darling.

Fat Jason Whitlock can shut his pie hole.....Clowney won't come close to winning a heisman.

[blueblob06]

I can't believe how many of SCAR's defensive guys were gasping for air, including Clowney.

I know Clowney was sick earlier in the week, but if he's 100% now, he shouldn't be winded 2 plays after a drive starts. Good lord.

I will say that UNC did a really good job of doubling up on him and creating a lot of plays that went away from him. He got in the pocket on a few plays which helped caused some incompletions and him drawing 2 blockers definitely helped some of his teammate get tackles, but he could've played better. Him and the rest of the D-Line have to be in better shape when they play SEC teams or SCAR is in trouble.

Maybe ESPN should research some of the other players on the team next time they do a South Carolina game. During some of the QB dropbacks, they literally were saying "Clowney is sitting out this play". Thanks for the excellent commentary during that play!

[Masterofreality]

Ha! UCon and Rutgers both lose. Can't wait to see ESPN try to pimp the AAAAAAAAAC with that crap. Wait until Louisville is finally able to escape.


And....Losing to Ole Miss at home is a bad, bad loss for Vandy.

Sure kills their RPI,...........errrrrrrrrr...........

[casualfan]

What about UConn and Rutgers?

That America What the F$$k conference sucks.

Louisville should not play in the National Championship because their schedule sucks just like Ohio State and sUCks schedules. Ohio State dodges Nebraska and Michigan St. and plays nobody outside of conference. Louisville and sUCks play nobody outside of conference and their conference is pathetic.

Other Thursday musings:
Laquon Treadwell is a stud. I am pissed Mississippi is now paying players because Michigan could have landed him.

Lane Kiffin should be fired some time this year. USC sucks again.

And Clowney is overrated. He made one play on Vincent Smith last year where he wasn't blocked and he is a media darling.

Fat Jason Whitlock can shut his pie hole.....Clowney won't come close to winning a heisman.

The funny thing about bringing up UC's schedule is that in the same sentence you illustrated why their schedule sucks. Most teams won't play them and risk a loss to a team from a lesser conference.

I can't blame the big schools for that mentality, but I promise you schools like UC, Louisville, etc. would love to play schools the caliber of Ohio State, Michigan, etc.

[vee4xu]

What about UConn and Rutgers?

That America What the F$$k conference sucks.

Louisville should not play in the National Championship because their schedule sucks just like Ohio State and sUCks schedules. Ohio State dodges Nebraska and Michigan St. and plays nobody outside of conference. Louisville and sUCks play nobody outside of conference and their conference is pathetic.

Other Thursday musings:
Laquon Treadwell is a stud. I am pissed Mississippi is now paying players because Michigan could have landed him.

Lane Kiffin should be fired some time this year. USC sucks again.

And Clowney is overrated. He made one play on Vincent Smith last year where he wasn't blocked and he is a media darling.

Fat Jason Whitlock can shut his pie hole.....Clowney won't come close to winning a heisman.

Bro, it's not even September 1 and you are already in mid-season form. You must have had a summer smack camp. :smile:

[paulxu]

What's up with all this Gamecock hate?

Try and field a team to play us this year in whatever bowl game we end up in. It's going to have to be a lot better than the past few years.

[waggy]

Ohio States defense blows imo.

[xudash]

Ohio States defense blows imo.

It's called YOUTH.

[GoMuskies]

UC is killing Purdue. I don't think the Big Ten gets enough credit for generally being a huge hunk of crap.

[xudash]

The best/worst decision in college athletics in the last decade: Boston College to the ACC.

Not that BC's athletic department was that distinguished to begin with, but damn; what a disappearing act.

Put the ACC patch on the shirts and cash the check, then disappear.

[GoMuskies]

They had one great year in the ACC with Matt Ryan. Then their AD threw a temper tantrum and fired their coach. They've royally sucked since.

[waggy]

It's called YOUTH.


No one wants to see OSU do well more than me, but I have to be realistic, it would be a minor miracle for this team to live up to the #2 ranking.

[GoMuskies]

I cannot wait for Western Kentucky/Kentucky Saturday night. Bobby Petrino opening up the WKU chapter of his career against a bad UK team? That's gonna be a fun one to watch.

Didn't disappoint

[BBC 08]

Didn't disappoint

It's gonna be fun to see what Louisville can do against this UK team. Btw, I'm going to the game today. Will bring home a victory.

[paulxu]

If you don't, you shouldn't come home.

[GoMuskies]

Btw, I'm going to the game today. Will bring home a victory.

Have a beer or 10 for me. I don't really expect much out of the game today. Not sure why, but I expect an ugly game that is never really in doubt but is a bit too close to be completely comfortable. Ohio is pretty good (sadly probably one of the 3 or 4 best teams on the schedule.

And I just noticed that USF/McNeese State score from last night. Holy hell!

[BBC 08]

If you don't, you shouldn't come home.

I can thankfully come home.

[paulxu]

Ohio is pretty good

Not so much.


I can thankfully come home.

Nice clinic by Bridgewater.

[xudash]

Hey Mark May, how is your (yunz) evening going?

Your alma mater stinks, you smug bastard.

[GoMuskies]

The ACC has long sucked at football, so they added two steaming piles of Big East garbage this year (neither ever came close to winning a Big East title other than in 2003...a feat so impressive that Pitt immediately ran off Walt Harris). How's that expected to work out for the ACC?

[waggy]

Will you delete all your posts after this year too?

[GoMuskies]

Will you delete all your posts after this year too?

Did I delete previous posts stating that the ACC was worse than the Big East? I don't recall doing that, but if you cannot find a record of me saying that, I will say it again here: the ACC has been at least as bad as (I would say worse than) the Big East over the past 8 seasons as a whole (the 8 years Louisville has been part of the Big East). That won't be the case this year. The Big East/AAC is disturbingly awful this year outside of Louisville and maybe UC (and UCF).

[waggy]

I don't know what you deleted. They were deleted! I guess I could've looked at the time, but didn't really care. And still don't.

[Milhouse]

Took a few extra days off around Labor Day. So happy College Football is Back. Had a blast in south bend this weekend. Learned nothing about ND...all will be revealed Saturday Night.

No place like seeing a game up in South Bend where 90% of the stadium drives over 100 miles to make it to game day.

[gladdenguy]

I can't wait for the signs on college gameday Saturday morning.
There are so many targets
Golson plagiarizing
Brian Kelly
Manti Teo
Just the thread on mgoblog board has some hilarious signs. Gameday will be off the hook Saturday morning.
Can't wait for another Saturday of college football.

[Milhouse]

I'm fine with students making fun of ND for holding athletics academically accountable and fake girlfriends. Much better than taking money, etc...

[PMI]

I'm very excited for Michigan/ND. I hope UM rolls them into the ground and totally validates the Irish dropping us from the schedule. Keep ND and Michigan State, and drop Michigan. Bitches. Have fun with your one foot in the ACC, I guess.

That said, unlike many of my Michigan friends, I'm far from sold on Devin Gardner at this point. I like the kid, and think he's come a log way in a relatively short period of time, but I still don't know if I can believe that he is the answer at QB in this alleged pro-style offense. Come the big games, my fear is that he will be exposed as a pocket passer. I am pleased with the other positions on the team though, and am very pleased with recruiting. If having a good athlete at QB who's arm is an upgrade from Denard's is the worst thing we've got going for us, this soon after the Rich Rod debacle, I can live with it.

[Juice]

I'm very excited for Michigan/ND. I hope UM rolls them into the ground and totally validates the Irish dropping us from the schedule. Keep ND and Michigan State, and drop Michigan. Bitches. Have fun with your one foot in the ACC, I guess.

That said, unlike many of my Michigan friends, I'm far from sold on Devin Gardner at this point. I like the kid, and think he's come a log way in a relatively short period of time, but I still don't know if I can believe that he is the answer at QB in this alleged pro-style offense. Come the big games, my fear is that he will be exposed as a pocket passer. I am pleased with the other positions on the team though, and am very pleased with recruiting. If having a good athlete at QB who's arm is an upgrade from Denard's is the worst thing we've got going for us, this soon after the Rich Rod debacle, I can live with it.

At least he isn't Tommy Rees

[casualfan]

The ACC has long sucked at football, so they added two steaming piles of Big East garbage this year (neither ever came close to winning a Big East title other than in 2003...a feat so impressive that Pitt immediately ran off Walt Harris). How's that expected to work out for the ACC?

Syracuse won a share of the big east just last year. I'd say that's pretty close. (http://espn.go.com/college-football/conferences/standings/_/id/10/year/2012/big-east-conference)

[Milhouse]

At least he isn't Tommy Rees

I'm not a Rees fan at all but the kid is 15-4. Not a bad record by any means. Clearly not Kelly's preference going forward but he's always been able to adapt to his QB at every school he's been at.

If ND beats Michigan I could honestly see an undefeated season up until Stanford. Likely? No. But I think that's the toughest environment + opponent we'll play until Standford.

[ammtd34]

I'm not a Rees fan at all but the kid is 15-4. Not a bad record by any means. Clearly not Kelly's preference going forward but he's always been able to adapt to his QB at every school he's been at.

If ND beats Michigan I could honestly see an undefeated season up until Stanford. Likely? No. But I think that's the toughest environment + opponent we'll play until Standford.

He also led game winning drives last year when Golson was struggling early in the season. I don't really like him either, but he has been serviceable.

[Milhouse]

Much better at reading the defense and making adjustments than Golson was. Granted that's a lot of experience but some intangibles as well. I think a lot of UM fans think they will waltz out with a win, I'm not confident ND will win but I feel like it will be a dog fight (as they have been the last 3 years).

[gladdenguy]

If Michigan can get pressure against the good ND offensive line I think they win the game. That is a big if.

[PMI]

I don't think many Michigan fans ever expect to waltz out to a win against ND. It's always a great rivalry game, pretty much regardless of how good/bad the teams are. I am cautiously more confident in Michigan than I have been in a couple years though.

[GoMuskies]

Syracuse won a share of the big east just last year. I'd say that's pretty close. (http://espn.go.com/college-football/conferences/standings/_/id/10/year/2012/big-east-conference)

Ah you're right. I had forgotten that Syracuse didn't suck last year. But they have been consistently awful for close to a decade.

[PMI]

Did I delete previous posts stating that the ACC was worse than the Big East? I don't recall doing that, but if you cannot find a record of me saying that, I will say it again here: the ACC has been at least as bad as (I would say worse than) the Big East over the past 8 seasons as a whole (the 8 years Louisville has been part of the Big East). That won't be the case this year. The Big East/AAC is disturbingly awful this year outside of Louisville and maybe UC (and UCF).

I love your annual argument about how the the ACC is so shitty, and the best you can always come up with is, "It's potentially as bad as the Big East." At least the ACC has some traditional powers who have business being in major college football. The old Big East. Louisville? Cincinnati? Syracuse? Is this really a battle worth fighting?

I get that Louisville might have its best team ever this year with Bridgewater, but come on. They're still Louisville. They could go undefeated against their Little Sisters of the Poor schedule and I'd probably think something along the lines of, "Eh, nice for them. I think that's adorable." Kind of like how I reacted when I saw their super-strict set of core values:

1255

Really setting the bar high down there...

[GoMuskies]

I love your annual argument about how the the ACC is so shitty, and the best you can always come up with is, "It's potentially as bad as the Big East."

Don't you think the Big East sucks? And the Big East has been the better league than the ACC over the past decade. Pretty convincingly, frankly. I think that's pretty damning for the ACC.

Granted, starting next year the ACC is going to be fantastic. Of course.

[PMI]

Don't you think the Big East sucks? And the Big East has been the better league than the ACC over the past decade. Pretty convincingly, frankly. I think that's pretty damning for the ACC.

Granted, starting next year the ACC is going to be fantastic. Of course.

I just don't agree that the Big East has been convincingly better (or even better) than the ACC. I certainly know that's not the perception amongst recruits. WVU in their prime is the one program I would consider big time that they had. Florida State, Miami, Virginia Tech, and Clemson are all FAR more prestigious programs than anything the Big East has ever offered. There's a reason the Big East schools had to scrounge to find new homes during realignment, while the ACC was doing some of the poaching.

[GoMuskies]

And it had nothing to do with on-field results. Hell, Louisville has won as many BCS games as the entire ACC combined since the turn of the millenium.

[GoMuskies]

Sagarin:

2012
Big East 72.16
ACC 71.64

2011
Big East 72.41
ACC 71.23

2010
Big East 73.27
ACC 74.32

2009
Big East 77.33
ACC 76.04

2008
Big East 75.23
ACC 77.70

2007
Big East 77.46
ACC 75.21

2006
Big East 79.57
ACC 75.49

2005
Big East 72.12
ACC 78.96

So the Big East has only been better than the ACC 5 of the last 8 seasons (the 8 Louisville years, so the only years I care about).

[BBC 08]

We aren't talking prestige here, PMI. We are talking on field results. Go is right, the BE has had as much, if not more, on field success in bowls in the last 10 years than the ACC. The BE has been 5-3 since 2006 in BCS bowl games. The ACC has won only 2 BCS game in same time period.

[paulxu]

So, what you are really telling me with all this stuff is that sUCks could win the ACC.

[PMI]

Those Sagarin numbers are damn near identical season after season. Bowls are all about matchups. I'm sorry, but to use this as evidence that the Big East has been convincingly better, is a very weak argument. My point is just that I find it entertaining that Go rehashes this every year as if it's some travesty that the Big East isn't considered so much better than the ACC. It's been marginally better, on the field, according to Sagarin rankings, some years. And it couldn't even keep itself from breaking apart while the ACC added power programs. Sorry, but to me, it's all just proof that, 5 years out of 8 aside, the ACC is just a stronger conference. Not a great conference, but stronger than the one that died this year. And I don't say this to really defend the ACC. I think they are about as unremarkable as Louisville's team's set of core values.

[GoMuskies]

So, what you are really telling me with all this stuff is that sUCks could win the ACC.

Well, 1 of those 2 turn of the millenium BCS wins by the ACC was a win over UC. So probably not.

[GoMuskies]

Go rehashes this every year as if it's some travesty that the Big East isn't considered so much better than the ACC. It's been marginally better, on the field, according to Sagarin rankings, some years.

Actually, I always brought it up when the Big East bashing inevitably came from the college football ignoratti. I have never claimed that the Big East was a particularly good conference. I simply have found it unfair that the Big East was being bashed and peopled claimed it didn't deserve its BCS bid while at the same time the ACC, a significantly weaker on-field product, got a free pass.

Yes, the Big East fell apart (and thank God for that from both a Xavier and Louisville perspective), but the reasons for that were not on-field performance related.

[PMI]

Actually, I always brought it up when the Big East bashing inevitably came from the college football ignoratti. I have never claimed that the Big East was a particularly good conference. I simply have found it unfair that the Big East was being bashed and peopled claimed it didn't deserve its BCS bid while at the same time the ACC, a significantly weaker on-field product, got a free pass.

Yes, the Big East fell apart (and thank God for that from both a Xavier and Louisville perspective), but the reasons for that were not on-field performance related.

You should have defended the Mountain West, or hell, even the 1-A Independents in several of those years, instead! But in any case, "significantly weaker on-field product" remains a complete misnomer. They've been pretty much identical conferences on the whole, with the ACC having been bigger, thus with more mediocrity among a couple of mediocre conferences. To argue that the Big East was as much better than the ACC as you do is off.

[GoMuskies]

That's like, your opinion man. 3-13 in BCS games (with two of the wins coming over UC and Northern Illinois) speaks for itself as far as I'm concerned. Sagarin just ices the cake.

I-A independents are essentially ND, so I think they get their defense elsewhere. And if someone was bashing the MWC, I would have defended that league as well. If they could have kept Utah, BYU, TCU and Boise all together, they really could have had something.

[Milhouse]

Looking at the numbers there really isn't that big of a difference I'd agree. That said you're still arguing who is the 5th or 6th best conference at the end of the day.

[paulxu]

ACC nice win Miami over Florida.
Cocks not looking so good today.

[GoMuskies]

How has no one yet mentioned UC crapping the bed as a 10 point favorite at Illinois? Good stuff there (particularly since I had the Illini and 9.5).

[paulxu]

How has no one yet mentioned UC crapping the bed .

Nothing to see here. Move along.

[Strange Brew]

How has no one yet mentioned UC crapping the bed as a 10 point favorite at Illinois? Good stuff there (particularly since I had the Illini and 9.5).

Looks like another angel got its wings. Man, do I love it when UC loses...at anything.

[xudash]

Do not ever allow Eminem in the booth again. He looked somewhere between spaced out and stoned.

Michigan driving with the first possession of the second half. If Notre Dame doesn't stop them here, the Irish are in big trouble.

[xudash]

So much for trouble.

[GoMuskies]

ND's defense is not good.

[GuyFawkes38]

ND caught some breaks last year. Might be a reversion to the mean type year for them.

Texas is the best job in the country. It's time for Mack to go. How on earth did he get an extension paying him over 5 million a year.

[Juice]

ACC nice win Miami over Florida.
Cocks not looking so good today.

The top of the ACC is looking good so far with Clemson, Miami, and FSU.

[gladdenguy]

Great day yesterday.
sUCks loses by 28.
MEEECHIGAN whoops the figs from South Bend.
and Georgia beats overrated South Carolina.

AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[paulxu]

We were probably rated a little high.
Maybe the boys from Meeechigan would like another crack at us?

[Masterofreality]

The AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC is aaaaaaaaaaaabjectly horrible.

Other than short timer Louisville of course.

Good luck promoting that turd ESPN.

[GoMuskies]

Louisville running for 78 yards on 28 carries against EKU isn't impressing me much, either. Hopefully they'll roll up a nice 4 or 5 TD win in Lexington next weekend. They're going to get compared to SEC teams all year if they stay in the title race, so they need to beat Kentucky as bad as the good SEC teams will.

[Milhouse]

ND losing to Michigan not a big surprise. Honestly I can't believe it was a 7 point game with 8 minutes to go. To me that was a shocker. I would've thought Michigan would be up by 10+ at that point.

Not that upset about right now Kelly is starting what we all thought last year would be his #3 QB. Golson clearly was #1 and there was a lot of raves that Kiel would push hard for #2.

In terms of environment perhaps the toughest environment they'll play in this year. Stanford may be a better team, but last Home game vs. ND in big house was a big deal for them as it should be... we'll get them next year.

[boozehound]

We were probably rated a little high.
Maybe the boys from Meeechigan would like another crack at us?

I would love another crack at South Carolina. I expect this year's Michigan team to be significantly better than last year's team.

Also, you guys won by 5 points. It wasn't like you killed us.

[paulxu]

True enough.
I had high hopes for this season, but the Georgia game was a reality check.
They dominated time of possession, and our defense did not measure up to the hype.
Too early to give up on 'em, but the old ball coach needs to do some fixes in the coming weeks.

[Masterofreality]

True enough.
I had high hopes for this season, but the Georgia game was a reality check.
They dominated time of possession, and our defense did not measure up to the hype.
Too early to give up on 'em, but the old ball coach needs to do some fixes in the coming weeks.

I know, nothing creative about this, but....

Are the concerns over South Carolina........... Clowney questions,......bro?

[paulxu]

OK, I used that before too.
Georgia did a great job of slowing him down, and using his speed against him (letting him overplay and going by him).
They doubled him most of the game. Which means the rest of the group didn't perform worth a crap.
Georgia beat 'em like an orphan.
We'll see if they can recover to make a season out of it. Both teams have tough games left.

[paulxu]

Zips had 'em, and let it slip away.

[SM#24]

Ohio St @ Cal game looks like an OSU home game.

[GuyFawkes38]

Mack Brown is really earning that 5 million dollar annual contract.

[Muskie]

Mack Brown is really earning that 5 million dollar annual contract.

I just spent the evening at Ross Ade. Good game. Some ND fans were celebrating a little too hard when I left. I had to let them know they barely edged out a team that had trouble with a division 2 team the week before.

[xudash]

Did Fordham beat Temple today? Did I just see that right?

Yes I did: F-30, T-29

[gladdenguy]

Zips had 'em, and let it slip away.

Yeah that game was horrific. The only positive is Devin Gardner will not be leaving after this year.
His mistakes were as bad as Denard last year against ND. He needs to make better decisions.
Michigan is still one or two years away from competing.

[Milhouse]

I just spent the evening at Ross Ade. Good game. Some ND fans were celebrating a little too hard when I left. I had to let them know they barely edged out a team that had trouble with a division 2 team the week before.

I wouldn't celebrate to hard but Purdue always gives ND unnecessary fits as it is an in state rivalry. I wouldn't compare ND's win to UC's etc... It's a night game at purdue against the national runner up. It's easily going to be their biggest game of the year. That said ND looked awful, Michigan almost lost the Akron, it happens. But I'm bracing myself for a 9-3 (VERY optimistic) season.

[GoMuskies]

Did Fordham beat Temple today? Did I just see that right?

Yes I did: F-30, T-29

Does it redeem the AAC at all that UCF beat Penn State? No, not really. That's a really shitty league.

[powerofX]

Does it redeem the AAC at all that UCF beat Penn State?.

Um, no...see FAU beating USF. Brutal

[Milhouse]

There is an astounding lack of good matchups this weekend. Best game very well could be MSU vs. ND.

[GoMuskies]

Yeah, this weekend kinda blows. I don't think either of ND or Michigan State are particularly good teams, so it will be a pretty good matchup of two pretty good teams. Not that exciting.

Boise at Fresno tonight is probably the best of the bunch. I bet Boise hasn't been an underdog in a conference game for close to ten years.

[Smails]

Bad weekend..no doubt. ESPN is running a promo for LSU and Auburn that made the game sound like the second coming of ND/FSU 93'. Maybe someone will shock the NCAA football nation this weekend, but i highly doubt it.

[Milhouse]

Also saw that Gameday is at an FCS school this weekend? Yep that pretty much sums up this saturday.

Looks like I won't be missing too much by spending the entire day down at Oktoberfest.

[GoMuskies]

Also saw that Gameday is at an FCS school this weekend?

Go Bizen! Over the last three+ seasons (including this year), the Bizen have the same number of wins over I-A teams as Kansas (4 each). Over the last two+ seasons, the Bizen have KU beat 3-1 on that score. KU's last win over a I-A team was a 45-42 win over Northern Illinois September 10, 2011.

[bleedXblue]

There is an astounding lack of good matchups this weekend. Best game very well could be MSU vs. ND.

Yeah, some top level schools playing some horrible competition. Welcome to the BCS everyone. Are we excited yet ?

[Milhouse]

Hopefully the playoffs will start to make for more interesting scheduling. If one loss doesn't eliminate a team from a championship season more teams should be willing to take risks with their schedules and hopefully schedule less buy games.

[WCWIII]

There is an astounding lack of good matchups this weekend. Best game very well could be MSU vs. ND.

Making my first trip to ND thanks to a successful AFO golf outing silent auction bid.

[usfldan]

The only Big Ten-SEC matchup of the regular season is today - Missouri at Indiana!

[GoMuskies]

I'm not completely certain, but I don't think FIU is very good.

[SM#24]

Might be better than Fla A&M

[SM#24]

Why does F.A.M.I.L.Y need a . after each letter ?

[xudash]

So I need some opinions here:

DUMBEST HELMETS AWARD:

UCONN

OR

MARYLAND

The Maryland flag on a helmet. Okay. Sure. I actually like it as a flag; just not so much as helmet design.

And then, as I watch Meechigan continue to embarrass itself early in the 2013 season, I noticed UCONN's helmets, which, after a rather large number of minutes of trying to figure them out, finally revealed - barely - a Huskie's face on the top of it.

[usfldan]

So I need some opinions here:

DUMBEST HELMETS AWARD:

UCONN

OR

MARYLAND

The Maryland flag on a helmet. Okay. Sure. I actually like it as a flag; just not so much as helmet design.

And then, as I watch Meechigan continue to embarrass itself early in the 2013 season, I noticed UCONN's helmets, which, after a rather large number of minutes of trying to figure them out, finally revealed - barely - a Huskie's face on the top of it.

The Cincinnati Jungle Kats live on!:

http://40-4d.50megs.com/junglekats.html

[Muskie]

So I need some opinions here:

DUMBEST HELMETS AWARD:

UCONN

OR

MARYLAND

The Maryland flag on a helmet. Okay. Sure. I actually like it as a flag; just not so much as helmet design.

And then, as I watch Meechigan continue to embarrass itself early in the 2013 season, I noticed UCONN's helmets, which, after a rather large number of minutes of trying to figure them out, finally revealed - barely - a Huskie's face on the top of it.

Clearly you haven't seen IU's helmets this season (in action ). Otherwise they'd be on your list too.

[Muskie]

Also saw that Gameday is at an FCS school this weekend? Yep that pretty much sums up this saturday.

Looks like I won't be missing too much by spending the entire day down at Oktoberfest.

I actually enjoyed game day in that setting. That crowd was fired up to be there. That's the kind of atmosphere that show needs every week. Some of the campuses put in token effort.

Also remember a few years ago when there was a Xavier flag flying every week (almost) at Gameday? We need to get that going again.

[Milhouse]

Making my first trip to ND thanks to a successful AFO golf outing silent auction bid.

Wasn't a great game but hope you enjoyed the atmosphere. Not much like in College Football.

I'll be heading up next weekend for the Oklahoma game. I'll be happy if its competitive, but ND has barely made it past middling B10 teams these last 2 weeks.

[Milhouse]

Heading back to the best place in the country to watch a college football game tonight.

I'll be interested to see how OSU fares against a very very overrated Wisconsin team tomorrow night.

[GuyFawkes38]

Heading back to the best place in the country to watch a college football game tonight.

I'll be interested to see how OSU fares against a very very overrated Wisconsin team tomorrow night.

I agree. Wisconsin is just +7. Take OSU. I can easily see this as a blowout.

[GoMuskies]

An Ohio State loss would be very nice indeed.

[BBC 08]

An Ohio State loss would be very nice indeed.

Couple that with a Alabama loss to Ole Miss and I'll be very happy.

[paulxu]

Couple that with a Alabama loss to Ole Miss and I'll be very happy.

What are you smoking this morning? Can I get some?

[GoMuskies]

Couple that with a Alabama loss to Ole Miss and I'll be very happy.

I'll add to that wish list a Georgia win over LSU (need the Bayou Bengals to lose twice, and there's no way Georgia's going undefeated the rest of the way) and a UCF win over South Carolina (sorry Paul).

[paulxu]

Are you trying to improve Louisville's ranking through SEC losses?

[GoMuskies]

Are you trying to improve Louisville's ranking through SEC losses?

That is part of the motivation, yes. Also, UCF needs to be ranked when Louisville plays them. Any little thing helps with the horrific schedule they play.

[Milhouse]

Gotta imagine it will be like UC in 09 though. Play a cupcake schedule then get embarrassed by the big boys when it comes to the BCS.

Also excited for ND to be playing at Louisville in 2016....ask excited as I can be for a game 3 years away that is. Who knows if it will be a good game but I only have to drive 90 mins for an ND game as opposed to 4.5 hours.

[GoMuskies]

It will either be like that, or it could be like last year when Louisville stomped a mudhole in #3 Florida in the Sugar Bowl.

[Milhouse]

Florida certainly didn't seem like the #3 team last year..almost got upset to Louisiana Lafayette. I think the bubble on Muschamp has popped and they won't be getting the results they were hoping for down there.

Regardless Louisville should be able to breeze through that schedule. 0 ranked teams as of now...can't really see any of their future opponents being ranked either. Pretty much NO excuses for them to not go undefeated.

[GoMuskies]

And Notre Dame didn't seem like #2. Almost lost at home to Pitt. :smile: Anyway, the rankings are what they are, I suppose.

UCF will be ranked if they beat South Carolina at home tomorrow. They're only 7 point dogs. Rutgers has an outside shot at getting ranked, too. They beat Arkansas last weekend, but who knows if Arky is any good.

ESPN tried to set up a Texas A&M vs. Louisville game for week 1 this year (Manziel vs. Bridgewater), and they also tried to get VaTech to give up the game against Alabama and move Louisville into that slot. Either would have been epic, but they obviously couldn't pull it off. Instead, the schedule really is brutally awful. They'll be favored by double-digits every game until at least the finale at UC.

[BBC 08]

Supposedly Louisville also reached out to OSU about playing this year yet OSU said no thanks. So instead of a good match up between those two we get two wins by 70+ points.

[Milhouse]

And Notre Dame didn't seem like #2. Almost lost at home to Pitt. :smile: Anyway, the rankings are what they are, I suppose.
.

I know you're not comparing Pitt to an FCS school :)

We'll see I'm just not a believe in the cardinals, but prove me wrong in January/December I suppose.

[GoMuskies]

I know you're not comparing Pitt to an FCS school :)


I'm not. You may have heard of the Sun Belt Conference?

Sagarin rated Pitt #59 and ULA-LA #62.

By the way, Pitt lost 31-17 to FCS Youngstown State last year.

[PMI]

I don't care if they win every game by 50, which they pretty much should. If Louisville is in the National Championship game, I'm not sure what further proof we'd need that college football has the worst format of any sport.

[GoMuskies]

UCF couldn't get the win, but I was very pleased with the two late TDs to cover the number.

[paulxu]

I wasn't all that happy. Liked the W, but having Shaw hurt isn't good.
UCF played a good game.

[muskienick]

I was rooting hard for the 'Cocks. I know it's a bit silly, but I can't help but find myself pulling for anybody who is playing a team who is in a current or past partnership with UC. I just can't help myself. (But it isn't a condition that is serious enough for me to get professional help.)

[GoMuskies]

We'll miss you Lane Kiffin. You always kept things interesting.

[xudash]

Wisconsin is the real deal. That loss to the Sun Devils was a travesty.

Ohio State played a solid game, for the most part. But, in one regard, that touchdown completion at the end of the first half spelled the difference in the game.

[QuentinC09]

I was at the UCF v. Carolina game and I gotta tell you if Spurrier was not so stuck in his ways it wouldn't have been that close. Carolina refuses to run even though that was an obvious strength being much bigger in the trenches. The knights qb and rb are the real deal tho.

Second, Hugh gator fan and I believe Murphy is the real deal, I think its gonna come down to a huge game with Georgia for the SEC east, Im sure most of yall disagree let me know what you think

[Masterofreality]

Damn, what are all the front runners to do?

Yankees out of the playoffs. Celtics to suck, and Notre Dame gets drilled by Oklahoma.

Oh, the humanity!

PS. the AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC really blows.

[Milhouse]

Damn, what are all the front runners to do?

Yankees out of the playoffs. Celtics to suck, and Notre Dame gets drilled by Oklahoma.

Oh, the humanity!

PS. the AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC really blows.

ND would've won with Golson. He ran all of them last year and their Heisman contending Quarterback.

QB is potentially the one make or break position in football. ND doesn't have it this year. Tommy Rees is good for 8-5.

ND haters can keep on hating. But Kelly is the real deal as we saw last year. I see many a BCS/playoff berths in the next several years. Future is bright.

[PMI]

Damn, what are all the front runners to do?

Yankees out of the playoffs. Celtics to suck, and Notre Dame gets drilled by Oklahoma.

Oh, the humanity!

PS. the AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC really blows.

Now we just have to wait for the impending Cowboys collapse so the 7-9 Skins can take the NFC East, and all will be right in the world.

[GoMuskies]

Seems like Sunday was a good start in that direction.

[Titanxman04]

Damn, what are all the front runners to do?

Yankees out of the playoffs. Celtics to suck, and Notre Dame gets drilled by Oklahoma.
Oh, the humanity!

PS. the AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC really blows.

Now I am no one to be feared, but seeing as we both live on the North Coast nowadays, if Mrs. Titan catches wind of your anti-ND behavior, you may have to invest in a few extra locks and bolts for your doors. Hell hath no fury like my wife scorned...

[xudash]

I was at the UCF v. Carolina game and I gotta tell you if Spurrier was not so stuck in his ways it wouldn't have been that close. Carolina refuses to run even though that was an obvious strength being much bigger in the trenches. The knights qb and rb are the real deal tho.

Second, Hugh gator fan and I believe Murphy is the real deal, I think its gonna come down to a huge game with Georgia for the SEC east, Im sure most of yall disagree let me know what you think

I think I'm looking forward to the Cocktail Party weekend, as usual.

One of the great things about southern collegiate football.

As for the game, it is a true rivalry game: anything can happen, but I have to give the edge to Georgia, given UF's key injuries.

[Masterofreality]

Meanwhile, Clay Travis takes his poison pen to LuckEye fan..HA!

http://outkickthecoverage.com/the-ten-dumbest-fan-bases-in-america-3-the-ohio-state-buckeyes.php

[Giacomazzi]

ND haters can keep on hating. But Kelly is the real deal as we saw last year. I see many a BCS/playoff berths in the next several years. Future is bright.

I hope not. When last year's version of Ole Piss would be favored in the National Championship game over Notre Dame, me thinks there's a bit more work to be done in order to turn the Irish into something other than a weak and undeserving minnow.

[kyxu]

ND haters can keep on hating. But Kelly is the real deal as we saw last year. I see many a BCS/playoff berths in the next several years. Future is bright.

I would be surprised if Brian Kelly is still at Notre Dame in 2-3 years, win or lose.


I hope not. When last year's version of Ole Piss would be favored in the National Championship game over Notre Dame, me thinks there's a bit more work to be done in order to turn the Irish into something other than a weak and undeserving minnow.

According to whom? Ole Miss Fantasies Weekly?

[gladdenguy]

Meanwhile, Clay Travis takes his poison pen to LuckEye fan..HA!

http://outkickthecoverage.com/the-ten-dumbest-fan-bases-in-america-3-the-ohio-state-buckeyes.php

That is hilarious and so true. Great find.

[QuentinC09]

I think I'm looking forward to the Cocktail Party weekend, as usual.

One of the great things about southern collegiate football.

As for the game, it is a true rivalry game: anything can happen, but I have to give the edge to Georgia, given UF's key injuries.

Ya I agree, already got my tickets. Considering last year as long as Florida doesn't turn it over 5 times, I may just be partying all night long.

[GoMuskies]

UCLA on upset alert in SLC. Tied up late.

[Milhouse]

I would be surprised if Brian Kelly is still at Notre Dame in 2-3 years, win or lose.



According to whom? Ole Miss Fantasies Weekly?


ND had a bad game in the national championship. It happens. Got severely outplayed...look at OSU vs. Florida years ago. Bama vs. LSU 2 years ago etc...doesn't mean they didn't deserve to be there. Still beat 3 top 10 teams and I believe 5 ranked teams. Haters gonna hate though...you learn that quickly as an ND fan.

ND won't fire Kelly in 2-3 years no way. Only way he leaves is if he wants to go to the pros.

He's shown that when he has his QB he can run his system. I'll be back up for USC game. I don't even want to think of Arizona State's Offense against ND's defense for tomorrow nights game.

[kyxu]

ND won't fire Kelly in 2-3 years no way. Only way he leaves is if he wants to go to the pros.

He's shown that when he has his QB he can run his system. I'll be back up for USC game. I don't even want to think of Arizona State's Offense against ND's defense for tomorrow nights game.

Right, I think it's more likely Kelly bolts than gets fired, but he is a mover. He's not one to get settled at a program for the long haul. ND was the next step over Cincinnati, so Kelly is definitely looking for his next job while trying to scrape together as many wins as possible with the likes of Tommy Rees.

[Titanxman04]

He's shown that when he has his QB he can run his system. I'll be back up for USC game. I don't even want to think of Arizona State's Offense against ND's defense for tomorrow nights game.

Truth. I'm a bit worried about that one.

[Milhouse]

Truth. I'm a bit worried about that one.

It really could be an embarassment...hoping its nto but preparing for the worst.


Right, I think it's more likely Kelly bolts than gets fired, but he is a mover. He's not one to get settled at a program for the long haul. ND was the next step over Cincinnati, so Kelly is definitely looking for his next job while trying to scrape together as many wins as possible with the likes of Tommy Rees.

This is true but also unless he really wants to go to the pros there is no where else to go in the college ranks. Pretty much everywhere else is a lateral move in terms of fan support/salary. I'm kind of hoping Chip Kelly does a nose dive in the pros to scare Brian off of it a bit...he clearly has some interest in it.

[GoMuskies]

FSU was very, very angry at Maryland today. Good Lord.

[paulxu]

I need Tenn. to figure out a way to beat Georgia.
They tied it up, and the let Murray lose.

[GoMuskies]

Tonight's loss to USF has to be one of the most embarrassing losses in the history of the UC program.

[muskienick]

Tonight's loss to USF has to be one of the most embarrassing losses in the history of the UC program.

And Texas Tech is undefeated, kicking a$$, and not taking numbers. (That will likely not continue against the big boys in the Big 12, but UC's schedule hasn't exactly been stacked with top-25 teams either!)

I wonder if Tommy was getting heat from the admin? Why else would he leave a Big 5 Conference to play league games against the likes of Memphis, Temple, and direction teams?

[Juice]

And Texas Tech is undefeated, kicking a$$, and not taking numbers. (That will likely not continue against the big boys in the Big 12, but UC's schedule hasn't exactly been stacked with top-25 teams either!)

I wonder if Tommy was getting heat from the admin? Why else would he leave a Big 5 Conference to play league games against the likes of Memphis, Temple, and direction teams?

He definitely was. Tech fans were not sad to see him go. They are much better off with Kingsbury.

[Masterofreality]

Tonight's loss to USF has to be one of the most embarrassing losses in the history of the UC program.

HaHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...... ....HA!

Tubber-ville is a perfect match for SucKS and the AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC. They all suck.

They won't be coming close to filling the Nip pretty soon.

[Milhouse]

He definitely was. Tech fans were not sad to see him go. They are much better off with Kingsbury.

That was a great hire on their part and also really brought the fans back after the whole Leach thing. UD's new AD didn't hire Jones right? This is his first football hire? In the revolving door of Conference realignment you need to be relevant NOW. UC football is going in an entirely different direction now than it was 5 years ago. They better be ready to stay in the AAC for the long haul.

Also I was pleasantly wrong about both ND and the Bengals this weekend. Thought both would be cows out for the slaughter. Some how both come out with Ws. In that sense a good weekend for me.

[blueblob06]

HaHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...... ....HA!

Tubber-ville is a perfect match for SucKS and the AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC. They all suck.

They won't be coming close to filling the Nip pretty soon.

But they are on national TV Friday night against winless Temple. I'm sure the ACC and Big 12 big wigs will be tuning in, ready to be awed by UC's powerhouse program and sell-out crowds.

[GoMuskies]

Temple is better than USF, so UC better watch out.

[xudash]

Who spends $85 million to take a stadium to a capacity of 40,000?

I get the suites stuff, etc., but UC is the St. Joe's of football when it comes to facilities.

[Milhouse]

You can't be big time with 40,000. plain and simple.

[GoMuskies]

Unless you happen to be located in Boise, ID.

[waggy]

They have a blue field though. They're only watchable on the road.

[Milhouse]

Unless you happen to be located in Boise, ID.

Boise's big time but there's a reason they've never played for a N.C. even with undefeated seasons...

[GoMuskies]

Boise's big time but there's a reason they've never played for a N.C. even with undefeated seasons...

They've only had one undefeated season that I'm aware of.

They just timed badly the year they started #3. They eventually choked it away at Nevada anyway, but in most normal years starting at #3 and immediately essentially winning on the road against a team ranked in the top 10 that goes on to go undefeated in the ACC is going to get it done. It just so happened that Auburn and Oregon decided to go undefeated that year. Tough luck.

[PMI]

They've only had one undefeated season that I'm aware of.

They just timed badly the year they started #3. They eventually choked it away at Nevada anyway, but in most normal years starting at #3 and immediately essentially winning on the road against a team ranked in the top 10 that goes on to go undefeated in the ACC is going to get it done. It just so happened that Auburn and Oregon decided to go undefeated that year. Tough luck.

I guess you could argue that Boise was the best team of programs that weren't proven cheaters that year, so they've got that going for them...

[GoMuskies]

I guess you could argue that Boise was the best team of programs that weren't proven cheaters that year, so they've got that going for them...

The NCAA was so pissed at Auburn and Oregon that year that they put Boise on probation.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/6966240/ncaa-hands-boise-state-broncos-three-years-probation-scholarship-reduction

[paulxu]

OK, I admit it...that's funny.

[PMI]

I guess none of them are clean anymore.

[Masterofreality]

You can't be big time with 40,000. plain and simple.

Unless you are Vanderbilt- Capacity of Vandy Stadium 40,250.

But they are already in the club plus the SEC needs them to build up their GPA.

SucKS is outside looking in....and there they shall remain.

[Juice]

Unless you are Vanderbilt- Capacity of Vandy Stadium 40,250.

But they are already in the club plus the SEC needs them to build up their GPA.

SucKS is outside looking in....and there they shall remain.

Vandy is fitting in just fine with half the team picking up rape charges for having sex with an unconscious girl.

[Masterofreality]

Vandy is fitting in just fine with half the team picking up rape charges for having sex with an unconscious girl.

Little known fact. In the 1970's Vandy was allowed to have students from Peabody College, which was across the street, to participate on their athletic teams. This was because Peabody had no athletics. However, Peabody also had a Physical Education major and this allowed athletes to take a less stringent course of study and still play for Vandy. in 1979 Peabody merged with Vandy and kept their "less stringent" majors intact.

All Vanderbilt students are not necessarily created equal.....as is the case at most other schools. I don't know what Stanford and Northwestern do, but Northwestetn has never made an NCAA Basketball Tournament, so maybe they don't do much.

[Milhouse]

Oh no, don't get me wrong there are P5 football teams with sub 40,000 stadiums. I think Duke and Wake are two other ones with 40,000 or under.

Just because you're in a power conference doesn't make you big time. I'm talking about prime time games. Top 10 ranks. Revenue streams. etc...


I've also been reading the book The System. Basically detailing everything about the business of College Football. Can't recommend it enough for any big time CFB fans.

[GoMuskies]

Tennessee and VPI announced today that they're going to play a game in Bristol, TN in 2016. They expect the crowd to be in the neighborhood of 160,000. I am guessing there will be a bad seat or two in the house.

That's 4X the capacity of Nippert Stadium.

[Masterofreality]

Tennessee and VPI announced today that they're going to play a game in Bristol, TN in 2016. They expect the crowd to be in the neighborhood of 160,000. I am guessing there will be a bad seat or two in the house.

That's 4X the capacity of Nippert Stadium.

So...in one game UT and Va Tech will outdraw SucKS' entire season attendance.

Errr, edit.....THREE seasons...

[Milhouse]

What's the over/under on Butch still being there?

Anyone catch that meltdown of a game last weekend? Was in a bar watching and the 3 Tennessee fans there looked completely shell shocked.

[blueblob06]

Can we agree Louisville's ugly 24-10 win over Rutgers should almost seal the fate of no UL in the BCS Title game and no Bridgewater for Heisman? Rutgers turned it over 4 times and Lousville still only scored 24 pts. I mean, yes, a ton can happen in the next 2 months but Bama/ORE/etc are on a different level.

Their remaining road games are at 1-4 USF, at 0-4 UConn, and at 3-2 UC. When Louisville plays UCF (at home), that'll probably their toughest opponent of the year. They have to crush them to make an impact because they've not looked good vs. the two "decent" teams they've played this year, UK and Rutgers. What you guys think?

[Masterofreality]

U of L and Teddy did themselves no favors last night.

The AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC sucks rocks and U of L will get no help from the schedule because they play no one from the Big 6. No way they get picked over a one loss SEC team or others of that ilk.

[GoMuskies]

Louisville is not playing in the national title game. They're just going to have to settle for stomping another ACC or SEC team in the Orange Bowl or Sugar Bowl again this year.

I'm actually kind of hoping OSU ends up in the title game and Louisville gets the Rose Bowl opposite Oregon or Stanford. Make it a clean sweep of the four BCS games.

[GoMuskies]

U of L will get no help from the schedule because they play no one from the Big 6.

You've got to update the lingo. The AAC still IS part of the Big 6 this year. But it's really a Big 5 now.

[Milhouse]

I'm starting to think OSU will be left out of the championship game. I'm not sure that Bama will be beaten and I could see either Oregon/Standford running the table or Clemson/FSU (probably not FSU...)

[blueblob06]

I'm starting to think OSU will be left out of the championship game. I'm not sure that Bama will be beaten and I could see either Oregon/Standford running the table or Clemson/FSU (probably not FSU...)
I agree. How great would this be if the 4 game playoff was done this year?
Alabama vs Clem/FSU winner
Ohio St vs ORE/Stan winner

Potentially 4 undefeated teams in a 4 team playoff (I know, lots of time to go). Those would be fun matchups to see. Too bad we still have another year to wait for the playoff setup.

[GoMuskies]

It would have been interesting. My guess is that Louisville, Ohio State and Alabama end up as the only three unbeatens. Would Louisville have made the cut?

[Masterofreality]

You've got to update the lingo. The AAC still IS part of the Big 6 this year. But it's really a Big 5 now.

What? The Big 5/6 is not "Hip" or "23 Skidoo"?

[paulxu]

Thank you Mizzu.

Glow, are you down in the Grove to see Johnny Football?

[xudash]

MEEEEEEESHEEGUN - WIDE LEFT!

And I thought Penn State had served it up on a platter.

[xudash]

White Out.

Michigan goes down.

[waggy]

Damn Pedophiles.

[xudash]

And Stanford joins them.

[Masterofreality]

White Out.

Michigan goes down.

Brady Joke couldn't have played the end of regulation worse.

And now, Oh-ho-ho State may not play a Top 25 team all year long. No BCS for you. "Hang on Sloopy"!

[paulxu]

Down go Oklahoma, Georgia, Northwestern, Clemson, Michigan and Stanford.

Wild weekend.

[GoMuskies]

Cllemson beat BC. I was excited for a minute when I read your post.

[xudash]

Down go Oklahoma, Georgia, Northwestern, Clemson, Michigan and Stanford.

Wild weekend.

Freudian lapse?

[paulxu]

Definitely anticipatory. My bad.

[xudash]

KaBOOM!

UL goes down.

UCF roaring back in the second half.

[BBC 08]

I'll take the blame for this one. Was at the game. Guess I didn't drink or cheer hard enough.

[GoMuskies]

That was...unexpected. I mean, losing to UCF wasn't a complete shock. But blowing a 28-7 lead in the process?

Oh, well. I've always dreamed of someday going to the Russell Athletic Bowl. Who hasn't?

[paulxu]

If the Cocks don't figure out something at halftime, we'll see you in the Russell Athletic Bowl around New Year's.

[xudash]

If the Cocks don't figure out something at halftime, we'll see you in the Russell Athletic Bowl around New Year's.

The Cocks need to stiffen up in the second half.

(I'm terribly sorry to our female colleagues here).

[paulxu]

They needed a bunch more Ciallis.

When is the Russell Athletic Bowl, anyway?

[GoMuskies]

When is the Russell Athletic Bowl, anyway?

Who cares? Let's meet at the bar a couple of days after Christmas and drink until someone points out that the game has started.

Looks like it starts with about 10 minutes to go in the Xavier/Wake game. So we can meet at the bar at the end of the first quarter. In any event, the SEC is not subjected to that bowl. It's an ACC/AAC showdown.

[paulxu]

I'll buy.
The only good thing that can come out of today is for Clemson to lose.

[xudash]

I'll buy.
The only good thing that can come out of today is for Clemson to lose.

You will absolutely have your wish granted.

You can take buses to the other side of your stadium to enter it (pretty stupid, actually).

You can pet a rock (okay, whatever).

You can run down a grassy knoll onto your field (without tripping I hope).

But it normally helps to show up and not F up right out of the gate - - completion, immediate fumble and hell on earth from there).

[xubrew]

Considering who they were playing, where the game was, and how badly Florida State beat them, I'd say that's the most impressive win that any team has at this point in the season, and may be the most impressive win anyone is likely to get. The question is will they play their way into the top two if both Oregon and Alabama win out. Probably not.

[Milhouse]

Looks like they already have.

Bummer for Oregon.

FSU will be more deserving of playing for a NC than Oregon if they win out. Although I don't believe Miami is really deserving of that Top 10 ranking.

[xudash]

Considering who they were playing, where the game was, and how badly Florida State beat them, I'd say that's the most impressive win that any team has at this point in the season, and may be the most impressive win anyone is likely to get. The question is will they play their way into the top two if both Oregon and Alabama win out. Probably not.

They still have Miami ahead on the schedule. They have Florida, too, wrapping up their regular season as usual, but Florida is in clear reverse at this point. Patsies otherwise: Wake, NC State and Syracuse.

We'll know about Oregon over the next two weekends: UCLA and Stanford, back-to-back. The former game is at home and the latter game is away.

I agree with you, based on their respective schedules. There isn't enough juice in the ACC for FSU to stay ahead of the Ducks, assuming they both win out from here.

THE TOP 16
1. Alabama (.984): Since allowing 42 points in their win over Texas A&M, the Tide defense has allowed a total of 16 in their past five games.

2. Florida State (.935): While the win over Clemson helped vault Florida State to No. 2, their margin over Oregon is incredibly slim. So strange as it may feel, Seminoles must root for Florida to recover and give their team another shot at a high-profile late-season win.

3. Oregon (.932): While they're No.2 in both major polls, the Ducks find themselves third in the rankings that truly matter. After disposing of Washington State the Ducks don't have a gimme on the rest of their slate, which reads vs. UCLA, at Stanford, vs. Utah, at Arizona, vs. Oregon State. Combined record: 25-8, with five of those losses coming to another team in that group.

4. Ohio State (.855): Buckeyes in real danger of starting the season at No. 2 in the polls, going undefeated, and somehow still being left out of the national title picture.

5. Missouri (.822): The Tigers' rankings the last four weeks in the AP poll: unranked, No. 25, No. 14, No. 5. The BCS's computers (which rank them second on average) say it's about time you puny hu-mans caught on.

6. Stanford (.741): With pretty poll position and a marquee game against Oregon on the docket, the Cardinal are easily the current one-loss team best-prepared to make a charge at the BCS title game should the 'Noles and Buckeyes falter.

7. Miami (.720): 'Canes happy the top-10 carnage let them waltz up the polls even after the narrowest of escapes at North Carolina.

8. Baylor (.712): With the Bears fourth in Jeff Sagarin's margin-based "predictor" ratings and 18th in his margin-free formula for the BCS, no one is angrier that the BCS's computers aren't allowed to consider margin-of-victory.

9. Clemson (.625): To make the ACC Championship Game (and have any real shot at getting back in the national title race), Tigers need FSU to lose two of their last four ACC games, which include Miami ... and 0-3 ACC N.C. State, 2-2 Wake Forest, and 1-2 Syracuse.

10. Texas Tech (.622): How much faith does Vegas have in the undefeated Red Raiders? They've opened as eight-point underdogs at struggling Oklahoma.

[GoMuskies]

Thank God the BCS madness ends next year. With four teams, there will still be some controversy for sure, but it is unlikely we'll have another situation like the one we could run into this year with one of Alabama, FSU or Oregon (possibly Baylor?) having no shot at a national title despite being undefeated in a major conference.

[xubrew]

Looks like they already have.

Bummer for Oregon.

FSU will be more deserving of playing for a NC than Oregon if they win out. Although I don't believe Miami is really deserving of that Top 10 ranking

FSU may be more deserving, but it has been explained to me that it is pretty much mathematically impossible for them to stay ahead of Oregon if both teams win out.

[xubrew]

Thank God the BCS madness ends next year. With four teams, there will still be some controversy for sure, but it is unlikely we'll have another situation like the one we could run into this year with one of Alabama, FSU or Oregon (possibly Baylor?) having no shot at a national title despite being undefeated in a major conference.

What about the teams that go undefeated in a non-major conference??

They cannot call this a playoff. They need to call it a "selective invitational." Teams like Boise, or Fresno, or Louisville (who I know lost, but still) were not "played off." They were simply left out.

[GoMuskies]

What about the teams that go undefeated in a non-major conference??


Oh, the system will still suck. It will just suck a lot less.

[STL_XUfan]

Not that I have high hopes of it, but at least Mizzou is in a position to control their own destiny. Winning out would include knocking off Alabama and a sure spot in the NC game (unless bama goes on an unexpected losing streak)

[xubrew]

Not that I have high hopes of it, but at least Mizzou is in a position to control their own destiny. Winning out would include knocking off Alabama and a sure spot in the NC game (unless bama goes on an unexpected losing streak)

Not necessarily. If Florida State and Oregon win out, there is no guarantee Mizzou will leapfrog them. In fact, they probably won't. The voters usually don't move a team down until they lose, and the computers probably won't favor Mizzou over Florida State or Oregon so much that it offsets what the voters are doing.

[STL_XUfan]

Not necessarily. If Florida State and Oregon win out, there is no guarantee Mizzou will leapfrog them. In fact, they probably won't. The voters usually don't move a team down until they lose, and the computers probably won't favor Mizzou over Florida State or Oregon so much that it offsets what the voters are doing.
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The one thing Mizzou has going for it is that the computers love them. But you are right when the bcs is involved, the only thing you can count on is that something stupid will happen

[SM#24]

What about the teams that go undefeated in a non-major conference??

They cannot call this a playoff. They need to call it a "selective invitational." Teams like Boise, or Fresno, or Louisville (who I know lost, but still) were not "played off." They were simply left out.

They're going to have to try and schedule their way in with 4 tough non-con games. People are right to criticize some of the non-con schedules put together by the power conf teams, but teams from the MW, AAC, etc. have those patsies already built in to their schedules.

[GoMuskies]

What about the teams that go undefeated in a non-major conference??

They cannot call this a playoff. They need to call it a "selective invitational." Teams like Boise, or Fresno, or Louisville (who I know lost, but still) were not "played off." They were simply left out.

You forgot NIU, by the way, who is 7-0 and hosts 7-1 Ball State November 13 in the de facto MAC West title game. Their BCS rankings will probably take a slight hit as they face off against UMass, Eastern Michigan and Western Michigan down the stretch. They are a combined 2-20.

[bourbonman]

Oh, the system will still suck. It will just suck a lot less.

Every system will suck, even if they expand to 68 teams and have 4 "play-in" games in Dayton. :biggrin:

[xubrew]

They're going to have to try and schedule their way in with 4 tough non-con games. People are right to criticize some of the non-con schedules put together by the power conf teams, but teams from the MW, AAC, etc. have those patsies already built in to their schedules.

I have two issues with that....

Games are scheduled four and five years in advance, if not longer. In basketball the majority of the schedule is put together between the end of one season and the start of the other. That's not the case in football, so it's even harder to manage.

Good teams from weak leagues have a hard time getting power conference teams to play them under any circumstance, much less four teams. Power conference teams would much rather play cream puffs. Remember when Boise State had an open date, and six preseason top 25 teams from power conferences had that same open date, and Boise agreed to play any of them with no return game, and none of them wanted the game?? Those same teams went on to criticize Boise for not playing anybody.

Four teams is not adequate. Not even close.

There are ten conferences. Taking the ten conference champions for automatic bids and six more at-larges would be the fairest way to do it, IMHO.

Taking eight conference champions for automatic bids and eliminating the two lowest ranked conference champions (oftentimes the SBC and either CUSA or the MAC) would also be a very adequate way of doing it.

Hell, taking the top four conference champions in the rankings and four additional at-larges for a playoff of eight would not be adequate, but it would be a lot better than just taking the top four. Under that format, if the season ended today Alabama, Oregon, Florida State and Ohio State are the top four conference champions, and Missouri, Baylor Miami and Stanford are right behind them. This would pretty much assure any team that won their conference and played their way into the top eight a spot in the playoff.

Four just isn't enough. I think sixteen is the best, but that eight or twelve is an absolute minimum to truly call it a playoff. Northern Illinois would not be played off. They would just be left off.

[xubrew]

Every system will suck, even if they expand to 68 teams and have 4 "play-in" games in Dayton. :biggrin:

For football, that would definitely suck.

[GoMuskies]

How about an 8 team playoff with one spot allotted to the "best of the rest" (everyone not named Pac-12, SEC, ACC, Big XII or Big Ten)? Most years, they'd be the 8 seed and get devoured by the SEC champs in the first round. Occasionally you'd have a Boise State or the like capable of winning a game.

[xubrew]

How about an 8 team playoff with one spot allotted to the "best of the rest" (everyone not named Pac-12, SEC, ACC, Big XII or Big Ten)? Most years, they'd be the 8 seed and get devoured by the SEC champs in the first round. Occasionally you'd have a Boise State or the like capable of winning a game.

I'd like that better than a four team selective invitational.

How about twelve teams where you take the top six ranked conference champions (Alabama, Florida State, Oregon, Ohio State, Baylor, Fresno State) and six additional at-large teams?? At least that makes it manageable for the "best of the rest" to play their way into being one of the top six ranked conference champions.

It would create a three tier system...

Teams #1 through #4 would bye into the quarterfinals and play at home

Teams #5 thru 8 would play at home in the opening round

Teams #9 thru 12 would be on the road for the opening round.

[SM#24]

Brew, you stole my plan. I've telling anyone who would listen for years now that a 12-team playoff is the way to go (not 8 or 16). My plan would put the 10 conf champs into one pot where you select the 7 best. Then the 3 not picked along with everyone else are in pot #2 and you pick the 5 best. Then seed them 1-12.

Rounds 1 & 2 are the 2nd and 3rd weekend of Dec.
Round 1 - seeds 5 through 12 play at campus sites of 5-8
Round 2 - top 4 jump in and host QF.
Then follow the upcoming 4 team plan for SF and final.
1st and 2nd round losers are still eligible for bowl games.

Teams are incented to be in the top 12 to make the playoff, then further incented to be in the top 8 to host a game, then further incented to be in the top 4 to get a bye and host. With the different layers of reward, the regular season is still very meaningful. A power conference team would still have to pretty much be a top 10 team to get in.

While everyone universally bashes the BCS, I always counter that it's the best thing to ever happen to collge football; it's actually a playoff, it's just that it's a 2-team playoff. Previous to the BCS, the top two would usually be in separate bowls. That said, in the same breath though, I acknowledge that the BCS could be so much better. To me, the four team playoff is only a little better than the current 2 team playoff.

Can you imagine how much money those extra two playoff round I proposed would bring in ? 4 games each, play a Friday night game, and then a Sat. tripleheader.

[Milhouse]

ND playing on CBSSports this weekend. Ugh. I thought I was done with this BS with Xavier's move to the Big East.

[paulxu]

Johnny Football is mad about something.

[Strange Brew]

ND playing on CBSSports this weekend. Ugh. I thought I was done with this BS with Xavier's move to the Big East.

Look for me in the end zone seats in the Ireland rugby jersey. Can wait to see the Irish live again!

[xudash]

You hanging in there Paul? 17 - 17 and who knows now...

[paulxu]

We're hanging in there. I'm not overly confident at 24-24.
I know Go would like a push about now.

[paulxu]

Doink.

Nice pick Go

[American X]

Johnny Football is mad about something.

JOHNNY WANTS ANOTHER HEISMAN.

His stats will continue to get fat the next two weeks, then he can wrap up the campaign with wins at L$U and Missouri. The INTs are poking holes in that ship though.

[xubrew]

Every sports fan has a sickening moment or memory. In the case of Missouri, there are too many to count.

There was the fifth down game against top ranked Colorado.

There was the Tyus Edney shot.

There was the loss to Norfolk State in the NCAA Tournament a few years back.

There was the football game against top ranked Nebraska where the defense batted down a pass on the final play of the game, only they batted it down to someone's foot, after which it was kicked into the air and caught.

I forget the year, but they were ranked #1 going into the Big Twelve title game. They lost the game, and were knocked out of the BCS entirely. Illinois ended up going to the Rose Bowl. Two nights later, Illinois beats Missouri in their rivaly basketball game in a crazy ending, and Illinois starts chanting "BCS..BCS."

There were countless times where they were on the brink of upsetting highly ranked Kansas, and blew it in the last thirty seconds.

They doink a chip shot field goal off the uprights over the weekend.

Mizzou is a Greek tragedy. What Job is to the Bible, they are to college athletics. They're more Red Sox than the Red Sox. They always seem to be on the brink of breaking through, then after getting within inches and/or seconds, it is snatched away and they're left to wander around staring at the sky and asking "Why Us??"

[Titanxman04]

Every sports fan has a sickening moment or memory. In the case of Missouri, there are too many to count.

There was the fifth down game against top ranked Colorado.

There was the Tyus Edney shot.

There was the loss to Norfolk State in the NCAA Tournament a few years back.

There was the football game against top ranked Nebraska where the defense batted down a pass on the final play of the game, only they batted it down to someone's foot, after which it was kicked into the air and caught.

I forget the year, but they were ranked #1 going into the Big Twelve title game. They lost the game, and were knocked out of the BCS entirely. Illinois ended up going to the Rose Bowl. Two nights later, Illinois beats Missouri in their rivaly basketball game in a crazy ending, and Illinois starts chanting "BCS..BCS."

There were countless times where they were on the brink of upsetting highly ranked Kansas, and blew it in the last thirty seconds.

They doink a chip shot field goal off the uprights over the weekend.

Mizzou is a Greek tragedy. What Job is to the Bible, they are to college athletics. They're more Red Sox than the Red Sox. They always seem to be on the brink of breaking through, then after getting within inches and/or seconds, it is snatched away and they're left to wander around staring at the sky and asking "Why Us??"

For football, after last season's SEC debacle, they still have to be pretty happy with how things are going. Though I was shocked to wake up the next morning and see that they lost.

[Milhouse]

No shame in losing to the Gamecocks. Spurrier is one of the best in the business. I don't think there has been ANY team that has been hit with as many crucial injuries as at critical times as the gamecocks in the last 3 years...

[paulxu]

If they'd change their mascot to a goat they'd have something going for them.

[STL_XUfan]

Every sports fan has a sickening moment or memory. In the case of Missouri, there are too many to count.

There was the fifth down game against top ranked Colorado.

A group of refs that spend there week as lawyers and doctors forgot how to freaking count. I think if i would have been there I would have tackled one of them.


There was the Tyus Edney shot.

grrr......


There was the loss to Norfolk State in the NCAA Tournament a few years back.

The small upside to the that game was it caused me to about a bottle of Jameson in at the start of the Xavier game, so that X win was a lot more fun. Pretty sure my neighbors still hate me for that day.


There was the football game against top ranked Nebraska where the defense batted down a pass on the final play of the game, only they batted it down to someone's foot, after which it was kicked into the air and caught.

God I hate nebraska...


I forget the year, but they were ranked #1 going into the Big Twelve title game. They lost the game, and were knocked out of the BCS entirely. Illinois ended up going to the Rose Bowl. Two nights later, Illinois beats Missouri in their rivaly basketball game in a crazy ending, and Illinois starts chanting "BCS..BCS."

This was the most mind boggling decision of all time. kansas lost 1 game all year, on a neutral field to Missouri. Missouri lost 2 games, both to an undefeated Oklahoma team that kansas didn't have to play. How in the F&%$ does kansas get the nod over Mizzou. I am pretty sure this is closest Columbia has come to reenacting Quantrill's raid with live ammo and real torches.

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There were countless times where they were on the brink of upsetting highly ranked Kansas, and blew it in the last thirty seconds.
too many to even list


They doink a chip shot field goal off the uprights over the weekend.

Just a doink off the pole is way too small of a look at this game. We had them 4th and goal on the 15 in the first overtime and we decided not to cover the guy standing wide open in end zone. Or how about just blowing a 17 point lead in the last 10 minutes. I was at the game and I am not sure I have ever heard a stadium go from so loud to just silence that quickly. It was quite painful.


Mizzou is a Greek tragedy. What Job is to the Bible, they are to college athletics. They're more Red Sox than the Red Sox. They always seem to be on the brink of breaking through, then after getting within inches and/or seconds, it is snatched away and they're left to wander around staring at the sky and asking "Why Us??"

At least I have the Cardinals and Xavier to get me through it.

[Milhouse]

Finished The System last night. Honestly a must read for a lot of you CFB junkies on here. It basically just covers one season of college football all the teams/scandals/etc...really made me rethink a lot of views I had in terms of paying players etc...

[Masterofreality]

Tweet:

“@RadiNabulsi: #UGA will face 4 this year RT @ClayTravisBGID: Ohio State has not played a regular season top ten opponent since 9/12/2009. Simply amazing.”

The Luckeyes seem to play no one. The Little 11 is not very good.

[XUglow]

Now, Urban will wait patiently to see if his old team can knock off FSU. His old Utah team has already taken care of Stanford.

[GoMuskies]

Now, Urban will wait patiently to see if his old team can knock off FSU. His old Utah team has already taken care of Stanford.

I think they need Baylor to lose as well.

[Milhouse]

any chance that 1 loss Stanford jumps OSU in polls?

I think it may have if they had held Oregon Scoreless as they should have....

[GoMuskies]

Stanford could definitely jump OSU. There's no reason they should be ahead of Baylor, though.