Fall-out from the Show Cause issued against Bruce Pearl

[Muskie]

Link (http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/07/15/bruce-pearls-coaching-staff-and-the-fallout-of-a-show-cause-penalty/)

Shay, according to Quinn’s story (http://www.govolsxtra.com/news/2013/jul/13/former-tennessee-assistant-tony-jones-still-for/), has gotten a job offer from a school in the Big Sky conference which Shay did not want to name. It’s not the first time he’s gotten such an offer, however; a program in the Sun Belt and another program in the Big Sky had both hired Shay before the deal got kiboshed by a university higher-up. Jones spent last season coaching at a Knoxville high school, but left that job because he thought he had a gig as an assistant coach at a Big East school lined up. That, too, got axed, as did jobs with two different mid-major programs.
In the end, that’s what the goal of the show-cause penalty is. It’s a scarlett letter, a black-eye that is designed to make it as difficult as possible to get back into coaching, yet another deterrent the NCAA uses to try and curtail cheating and convince coaches to be forthcoming during investigations.
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Interesting perspective on the plight of the assistants who were at Tennessee with Pearl.

[xubrew]

This is rough, because you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't.

If an assistant cooperates with the NCAA, they're labeled as disloyal and can't get another assistant coaching job. If they are loyal to the coaches, they get a show cause, and even though coaches would like to hire them, the athletic administration shuts down the hire.

[drudy23]

This is rough, because you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't.

If an assistant cooperates with the NCAA, they're labeled as disloyal and can't get another assistant coaching job. If they are loyal to the coaches, they get a show cause, and even though coaches would like to hire them, the athletic administration shuts down the hire.

Or...they can run a clean program and not have to worry about either.

[XUFan09]

Or...they can run a clean program and not have to worry about either.

What if they're clean but the head coach is the one committing violations? They're obligated to report it (and should), but then, like Brew said, they'll have a hard time getting another job due to appearing untrustworthy, ironically.

[xubrew]

Or...they can run a clean program and not have to worry about either.

Assistant coaches aren't the ones running the program.

[MHettel]

What if they're clean by the head coach is the one committing violations? They're obligated to report it (and should), but then, like Brew said, they'll have a hard time getting another job due to appearing untrustworthy, ironically.

I think this is the perfect situation. there is no debate about right and wrong when faced with that predicament. the right thing to do is report it. period.

those that don't have CHOSEN to do the wrong thing, and there is a price for that.

You can never go wrong by doing teh right thing. Those guys will get second chances.

[drudy23]

LOL...so the assistant coaches don't know what's going on. Yeah, OK.

[XUFan09]

LOL...so the assistant coaches don't know what's going on. Yeah, OK.

No one said that anything about knowledge. There was nothing said that could even be poorly interpreted that way. Assistants have input into how a program is run and generally know what's going on, but they don't have real control over the program in the end. That's the head coach.

MHettel, if you didn't realize it by the parenthetical "and should," I agree with you that in the end there's no question over what assistants have to do. I am skeptical, however, by the generalization, "You can never go wrong by doing the right thing." Maybe. I'm not ruling it out. But frequently in this world, whistleblowing is the right thing, yet the person still has a black mark on their reputation. It's not fair, but it's just the way it too often is. I seriously doubt that college basketball is immune to that issue. For sure, there are coaches that appreciate the integrity of an assistant who would report violations, but there will be others who are distrustful and unlikely to hire him. When you get a large enough group, that's the spectrum of human nature. And in the end, the coaching hiring process is competitive enough that being ruled out by some programs might make it too difficult.

Thus, in the end, this is always a sucky thing for an assistant coach to deal with.

[PMI]

Snitches get stitches.

[Muskie]

Snitches get stitches.

I didn't realize Aaron Hernandez was allowed to post from prison?

[xubrew]

I think this is the perfect situation. there is no debate about right and wrong when faced with that predicament. the right thing to do is report it. period.

those that don't have CHOSEN to do the wrong thing, and there is a price for that.

You can never go wrong by doing teh right thing. Those guys will get second chances.


The sad reality is that, at least presently, most assistant coaches are punished more for doing what's right. I don't think they would have gotten jobs as quickly as they did had they cooperated. It said that other coaches wanted to hire them, but the administrators axed it. Had they blown the whistle, almost no coaches would have wanted to hire them, and chances are they'd still be out of a job.

I'm not saying they deserve praise for not blowing the whistle. I'm saying that it's naïve to think that they ended up worse off because they didn't cooperate with investigators. Despite the show cause, they got jobs again. They probably wouldn't have had they acted as whistle blowers.

When it comes to cheating, the culture in men's basketball really needs to change. It's worse than any other sport by far.

[LadyMuskie]

The sad reality is that, at least presently, most assistant coaches are punished more for doing what's right. I don't think they would have gotten jobs as quickly as they did had they cooperated. It said that other coaches wanted to hire them, but the administrators axed it. Had they blown the whistle, almost no coaches would have wanted to hire them, and chances are they'd still be out of a job.

I'm not saying they deserve praise for not blowing the whistle. I'm saying that it's naïve to think that they ended up worse off because they didn't cooperate with investigators. Despite the show cause, they got jobs again. They probably wouldn't have had they acted as whistle blowers.

When it comes to cheating, the culture in men's basketball really needs to change. It's worse than any other sport by far save major league baseball.

Fixed that for ya!