Dez by Comparison

[paulxu]

Thought it was interesting that Dez' situation was used with this Missouri kid.
What struck me the most about the article was that his AD was trashing him to other schools who inquired; sure he'll end up someplace, but don't know about getting the waiver Dez did.
I think Dez' situation was improved by a positive effort on the school's part to help him with the NCAA request, even though there may not be evidence of that.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9343285/michael-dixon-formerly-missouri-tigers-says-not-picked-new-school

[GoMuskies]

I think one key difference is that the kid from Mizzou actually appears to have done something wrong.

Actually, reading over the article, hard to say if Dixon did anything wrong.

[paulxu]

It actually reminded me more of Kavanaugh's situation. 2 time allegation.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

It actually reminded me more of Kavanaugh's situation. 2 time allegation.

2 times definitely sends a message to the administration.

[SixFig]

As much as I hate contributing to Dez threads, here is an article that makes the comparison of the 2 situations

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9348420/as-michael-dixon-seeks-waiver-judge-jury-precedent-leaves-ncaa-little-choice-college-basketball

[DC Muskie]

As much as I hate contributing to Dez threads, here is an article that makes the comparison of the 2 situations

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9348420/as-michael-dixon-seeks-waiver-judge-jury-precedent-leaves-ncaa-little-choice-college-basketball

I said it before and I'll say it again, the NCAA made a terrible decision in allowing Dez to play this season.

[paulxu]

It looks like (I can't really tell) that Dixon was kicked off the team last year.
If so, I wonder why he didn't transfer then? So he will essentially have completed a sit-out year, just not at Memphis.
What this also looks similar to is Kavanaugh. He was dismissed from school/team, sat a year, and is now going to play...albeit on his former team.
But same sort of double allegation and punishment.

[LA Muskie]

I said it before and I'll say it again, the NCAA made a terrible decision in allowing Dez to play this season.

There is a saying among lawyers: "Bad facts make bad law." I've always thought that was apropos of the Dez situation.

[GoMuskies]

Luckily the NCAA isn't bound by precedent.

[MHettel]

I said it before and I'll say it again, the NCAA made a terrible decision in allowing Dez to play this season.

Yeah. That was easy to see. i would have bet my house that they would NEVER let Dez play, for that specific reason.

So, if you are kid that wants to transfer, you are are better off getting tossed completely out of school. The you claim a hardshis that you cant play becasuse you arent even a student. Thats what i can a perverse incentive.

And, where is the accountability for the kids? Get accused of rape and get thropwn out of school? no problem at all, just transfer!

[smileyy]

And, where is the accountability for the kids? Get accused of rape and get thrown out of school? no problem at all, just transfer!

I saw that as a complete lack of respect for the member schools.

[MuskiePimp23]

I said it before and I'll say it again, the NCAA made a terrible decision in allowing Dez to play this season.

I've said it before and I'll say it again to you...the NCAA made an absolutely fantastic decision to allow Dez to play this season and the Xavier board of conduct and administration is completely at fault on this one with there absolutely horrific decision to expel Dez from Xavier.

[DC Muskie]

I've said it before and I'll say it again to you...the NCAA made an absolutely fantastic decision to allow Dez to play this season and the Xavier board of conduct and administration is completely at fault on this one with there absolutely horrific decision to expel Dez from Xavier.

Wrong.

[STL_XUfan]

I say this as a Missouri fan. The second allegation against Dixon was suspect, however the first allegation was swept under the rug and seemed pretty credible when it leaked out in this whole mess.

[boozehound]

I've said it before and I'll say it again to you...the NCAA made an absolutely fantastic decision to allow Dez to play this season and the Xavier board of conduct and administration is completely at fault on this one with there absolutely horrific decision to expel Dez from Xavier.

You have got to let that go, man.

[TUclutch]

I haven't said it before, but I have no problem saying it again. You're wrong.

[STL_XUfan]

I haven't said it before, but I have no problem saying it again. You're wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk&sns=em

[Masterofreality]

I've said it before and I'll say it again to you...the NCAA made an absolutely fantastic decision to allow Dez to play this season and the Xavier board of conduct and administration is completely at fault on this one with there absolutely horrific decision to expel Dez from Xavier.


Wrong.


You have got to let that go, man.

Correct. Wrong, wrong and, errrrrrr, WRONG!

[PMI]

Was there ever a hint of doubt over what direction this thread was doomed to go in from the beginning?

[BandAid]

All I know is that all you are wrong

[gladdenguy]

Dez deserved to play after doing nothing wrong. He did. Move on.

[TUclutch]

This.

[Kahns Krazy]

I would have lost the over/under on the number of posts before Fr. Graham's name was brought into this.

I don't think the NCAA painted itself into a corner with anything. Their were extenuating circumstances in the Wells case, so they granted a waiver. No two cases are ever exactly alike. They can rule either way in the Dixon case too.

I also don't think the concept that one school throws a guy out should make him ineligible. If a kid gets thrown out of BYU for saying "This coffee tastes like shit!" shouldn't he be able to attend another school that doesn't have a problem with that?

[nuts4xu]

If a kid gets thrown out of BYU for saying "This coffee tastes like shit!" shouldn't he be able to attend another school that doesn't have a problem with that?

Yes he should, especially if the coffee actually tastes like shit.

[DC Muskie]

I would have lost the over/under on the number of posts before Fr. Graham's name was brought into this.

I don't think the NCAA painted itself into a corner with anything. Their were extenuating circumstances in the Wells case, so they granted a waiver. No two cases are ever exactly alike. They can rule either way in the Dixon case too.

I also don't think the concept that one school throws a guy out should make him ineligible. If a kid gets thrown out of BYU for saying "This coffee tastes like shit!" shouldn't he be able to attend another school that doesn't have a problem with that?

What would be the difference between the two? If Missouri decides it's not going to help Dixon?

If you get thrown off the team, you have to sit out a year right? It's pretty interesting that you could stay at the school, but not be on the team, however if the reserve happens, you would be allowed to play wherever you want, and play immediately.

It seems like a reserve way of handing out punishments.

[PMI]

Whether or not Dez deserved to play is a matter of opinion, but the fact is, the NCAA's hands will never be tied by any "precedents" they set. They've proven time and time again that they will simply do whatever they want, from case to case, and no rhyme or reason is required. Maybe they let Dez play because they liked him, or flipped a coin, or just got laid, or any other number of things. By no means does it mean that if something identical were to happen to somebody else, they would receive the same treatment. That is just what we have to deal with with the NCAA. Unfortunately, we seem to be on the losing side of many of their unmethodical decisions. Maybe they are prejudiced against the letter "X." Who the hell knows.

[paulxu]

So you are saying I should just sort of forget anything occurring from this Hairston kid, driving a rental car when he's not old enough to rent, the marijuana, the pistol on the ground, etc.?

[PMI]

So you are saying I should just sort of forget anything occurring from this Hairston kid, driving a rental car when he's not old enough to rent, the marijuana, the pistol on the ground, etc.?

Are you asking me in particular? I'm not really sure what you're saying, but I'm pretty sure Hairston's fate will be determined by the law, followed by the UNC program, far before any NCAA intervention. But knowing the NCAA, they probably think they could give the guy the death penalty and get away with it.

[paulxu]

Nah, I was just ruminating on the craziness that is sports.
I expect the same result with this that came from the Duke guy buying 100K of jewelry while still in school.