Jim Crews gonna Jim Crews

[Tardy Turtle]

Good to see that Jim Crews hasn't forgotten how to be a Grade-A asshole.

SLU runs off Jared Drew (http://blogs.indystar.com/recruitingcentral/archives/3552)

[DC Muskie]

Hope he lands at Ball State with Whitford.

[Cheesehead]

The staff (Crews) had to have known for a while that they were going to do this. I understand this happens fairly often in D-1 basketball but they really screwed this kid over by waiting so long. Now, the poor guy is left scrambling. That is a Dick move.

[El Shaqtus]

Hope he lands at Ball State with Whitford.

I'm hoping he ends up at SIU-E.

No defense from a SLU fan over this one.

[SlimKibbles]

A kid in this situation should NOT have to sit out a year when he goes to another school.

[El Shaqtus]

A kid in this situation should NOT have to sit out a year when he goes to another school.

Yeah, he should get the hardship waiver pretty easily.

[xubrew]

Yeah, he should get the hardship waiver pretty easily.

It's very unlikely that he'll get any sort of a waiver, much less a hardship waiver. What's the hardship??

Fair or not, players who lose their scholarships or get cut generally still have to sit. Waiting to tell him was, in fact, shitty, but it won't get him a waiver.

[nuts4xu]

It would be great to see someone throw a basketball off the head of Jim Crews in the near future.

He has deserved it for a couple of decades. It could help him.

[Masterofreality]

I predict that St. Louis will regret hiring this guy within 2 years.

Guys that age don't change their stripes. He'll pull his usual fade act soon.

[kyxu]

Fair or not, players who lose their scholarships or get cut generally still have to sit. Waiting to tell him was, in fact, shitty, but it won't get him a waiver.

What about Dez?

[Juice]

I predict that St. Louis will regret hiring this guy within 2 years.

Guys that age don't change their stripes. He'll pull his usual fade act soon.

I am gathering that this guy is a huge dickhead, but can someone please provide me with a quick synopsis of why? I'm just out of the loop on him.

[gladdenguy]

What about Dez?

Brew mentioned the key word "generally".
Dez was a special situation as we all know.....when the school f__ks up and throws a young kid under the bus and runs his name through the mud......the student actually looked great and the institution suffered a black eye. As a result Dez was cleared to play without sitting out a year.
SLU's basketball staff made this decision (which happens often in college bball). Mack and the entire athletic department never wanted Dez to leave.
Big difference.

And we still don't know the actual "situation" with Dez. Its funny how Xavier doesn't want "the real situation" to come out because they would look like the morons they already are.

[kyxu]

Brew mentioned the key word "generally".
Dez was a special situation as we all know.....when the school f__ks up and throws a young kid under the bus and runs his name through the mud......the student actually looked great and the institution suffered a black eye. As a result Dez was cleared to play without sitting out a year.
SLU's basketball staff made this decision (which happens often in college bball). Mack and the entire athletic department never wanted Dez to leave.
Big difference.

I guess I didn't realize college players got "cut" that often.

[muskiefan82]

I am gathering that this guy is a huge dickhead, but can someone please provide me with a quick synopsis of why? I'm just out of the loop on him.

Google "Chris Mack", "Jim Crews" and "Evansville" and you should figure it out

[danaandvictory]

He's a Bob Knight disciple, it sort of goes with the territory.

I tend to agree with MOR, Crews hasn't had much success as a head coach since the early 90s and there's no indication that he can recruit at any level now. His last head coaching job was at Army, which is a completely different animal.

[Lamont Sanford]

It would be great to see someone throw a basketball off the head of Jim Crews in the near future.

He has deserved it for a couple of decades. It could help him.

Thanks for the well deserved laugh!

[GoMuskies]

He's a Bob Knight disciple, it sort of goes with the territory.


He's Bob Knight minus the coaching ability.

[Muskie]

He's Bob Knight minus the coaching ability.

And the championships...

[nuts4xu]

He's Bob Knight minus the coaching ability.


And the championships...

...and the plaid sport coats.

http://elitedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/bobby-knight.jpeg

[El Shaqtus]

...and the plaid sport coats.

http://elitedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/bobby-knight.jpeg

We need more plaid sport coats.

[blobfan]

Google "Chris Mack", "Jim Crews" and "Evansville" and you should figure it out

OOOhhh! He's THAT guy!

Yeah. Schmuck.

[xubrew]

What about Dez?

Although the two might practically seem the same, the NCAA is far more concerned with technicalities than practicalities, and technically the two are very different.

Essentially, what happened with Dez was along the lines of a school discontinuing a program. Dez never sought a transfer, and not only could he not return to the team, he could not return to the institution. All the NCAA cares about is that Dez broke no NCAA rules, and that it was impossible for him to return to the INSTITUTION, much less the team.

In the case of Drew, he merely lost his scholarship. He could still remain a student at SLU. For that matter, it was never demonstrated that he couldn't play on the team as a walk on. As far as the NCAA is concerned, it was Drew that sought the transfer, and his reason for seeking it is because he lost his scholarship.

Fair or not, that is not grounds for a waiver. It never has been as far as I know.

[JTG]

I predict that St. Louis will regret hiring this guy within 2 years.

Guys that age don't change their stripes. He'll pull his usual fade act soon. He learned at the feet of master asshole, Bob Knight. For all the good deeds Bob did, he evened it out by being an ass most of the time.

[UCGRAD4X]

I would think the fact that he sat out last year would be a major factor in his favor.

[kyxu]

Although the two might practically seem the same, the NCAA is far more concerned with technicalities than practicalities, and technically the two are very different.

Essentially, what happened with Dez was along the lines of a school discontinuing a program. Dez never sought a transfer, and not only could he not return to the team, he could not return to the institution. All the NCAA cares about is that Dez broke no NCAA rules, and that it was impossible for him to return to the INSTITUTION, much less the team.

In the case of Drew, he merely lost his scholarship. He could still remain a student at SLU. For that matter, it was never demonstrated that he couldn't play on the team as a walk on. As far as the NCAA is concerned, it was Drew that sought the transfer, and his reason for seeking it is because he lost his scholarship.

Fair or not, that is not grounds for a waiver. It never has been as far as I know.

Is there a bylaw in support of what you're saying, or is it totally discretionary? I'm asking because I don't know.

I do know that reason often does not play a role in such decisions rendered by the NCAA, so I could see where the NCAA would make him sit a year. And I understand Drew, unlike Wells, wasn't expelled. But one would think that having your scholarship taken away, especially at a private school, would amount to de facto expulsion. Pretty terrible.

[xubrew]

Is there a bylaw in support of what you're saying, or is it totally discretionary? I'm asking because I don't know.

I do know that reason often does not play a role in such decisions rendered by the NCAA, so I could see where the NCAA would make him sit a year. And I understand Drew, unlike Wells, wasn't expelled. But one would think that having your scholarship taken away, especially at a private school, would amount to de facto expulsion. Pretty terrible.

I'm not trying to side step your question, but I'm not entirely sure what you're asking. The bylaw is that all men's basketball players who transfer must complete an academic year at the new institution before they can play (IE, they have to sit a year). There is no bylaw that guarantees a player a waiver. If there were, then they would not need a waiver in the first place. So, I guess it is discretionary.

I agree that it is terrible. I don't think players should have to sit at all when they transfer, and I've been saying that for years. I'm not agreeing with their thought process. I'm merely explaining what I think their thought process is. I was expecting Dez to get one for the reasons I mentioned above. I don't think Drew will. As crazy as this sounds, they do not view a scholarship as a necessity, so the fact that they did not renew it means nothing to the NCAA. Not all players have scholarships. They're going to say that Drew sought a transfer. Whenever a player seeks a transfer and is not kicked out of school, or if the program is not discontinued, they basically never get a waiver.

[Muskie]

Yeah Drew is ineligible but this guy (http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/18/rb-daniel-jenkins-transferring-from-wazzu-back-to-arizona/) somehow can transfer from Arizona to Washington St and the back to Arizona in the span of 5 months and still be eligible to play college football.

[xubrew]

Yeah Drew is ineligible but this guy (http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/18/rb-daniel-jenkins-transferring-from-wazzu-back-to-arizona/) somehow can transfer from Arizona to Washington St and the back to Arizona in the span of 5 months and still be eligible to play college football.

Yes. He graduated and is enrolling in a graduate program that Washington State doesn't offer. Again, it's technicalities, not practicalities. What Daniel Jenkins did is within the rules.

[kyxu]

I'm not trying to side step your question, but I'm not entirely sure what you're asking. The bylaw is that all men's basketball players who transfer must complete an academic year at the new institution before they can play (IE, they have to sit a year). There is no bylaw that guarantees a player a waiver. If there were, then they would not need a waiver in the first place. So, I guess it is discretionary.

I agree that it is terrible. I don't think players should have to sit at all when they transfer, and I've been saying that for years. I'm not agreeing with their thought process. I'm merely explaining what I think their thought process is. I was expecting Dez to get one for the reasons I mentioned above. I don't think Drew will. As crazy as this sounds, they do not view a scholarship as a necessity, so the fact that they did not renew it means nothing to the NCAA. Not all players have scholarships. They're going to say that Drew sought a transfer. Whenever a player seeks a transfer and is not kicked out of school, or if the program is not discontinued, they basically never get a waiver.

I would hope having your financial aid unexpectedly taken away would amount to a hardship to waive the one-year ineligibility rule, but we'll see.

[xubrew]

I would hope having your financial aid unexpectedly taken away would amount to a hardship to waive the one-year ineligibility rule, but we'll see.

It won't. I cannot think of a single case where it has.

They won't consider that a hardship. They would merely direct him to the financial aid office.