Remy Abell

[BMoreX]

Rick Broering ‏@musketeerreport 32m
Remy Abell now saying he will announce his decision tomorrow, according to @kyhighs. Choosing between XU, SLU and St. Mary's.

Earlier today it was reported that he cancelled his visit to St. Mary's.

[DC Muskie]

Bmore bringing it. Thanks!

[MHettel]

Interesting. I'll have to do some research on this kid. Immediately eligible, right?

I'm always in favor of filling what would have otherwise been an unused scholarship, especially if the commitment is for the immediate year only. he's not tying up a scholly beyond next year, so why not. Only thought is that we must not be expecting the kid from Europe...

[BMoreX]

He will be eligible for the 2014-2015 season.

[MHettel]

Interesting. I'll have to do some research on this kid. Immediately eligible, right?

I'm always in favor of filling what would have otherwise been an unused scholarship, especially if the commitment is for the immediate year only. he's not tying up a scholly beyond next year, so why not. Only thought is that we must not be expecting the kid from Europe...

check that. thought he was a 5th year immediate eligible guy. Not as attractive now, knowing that he's basically going to take up 3 years of schollies, and only play 2 years. And his numbers in limited minutes dont impress.

I must truct the coaches on this one....

[SixFig]

check that. thought he was a 5th year immediate eligible guy. Not as attractive now, knowing that he's basically going to take up 3 years of schollies, and only play 2 years. And his numbers in limited minutes dont impress.

I must truct the coaches on this one....

Shooting .480 from 3 is pretty darn good (33 attempts). Better than Brad Redford ever shot (in more attempts obviously). We could use a 3 point sniper

[LA Muskie]

Only thought is that we must not be expecting the kid from Europe...
Um....he committed today.

[Muskie]

I thought "forced out by Tom Crean" was an automatic NCAA waiver...

[Smails]

Shooting .480 from 3 is pretty darn good (33 attempts). Better than Brad Redford ever shot (in more attempts obviously). We could use a 3 point sniper

I agree...no shame in only getting 13 minutes a game on that IU squad. I think Semaj would have been the only player to get time on that team from our roster. We offered him out of HS and he went to IU. Our track record in that department has beem pretty darn good...See Holloway, TU Crawford, Jordan.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

I agree...no shame in only getting 13 minutes a game on that IU squad. I think Semaj would have been the only player to get time on that team from our roster. We offered him out of HS and he went to IU. Our track record in that department has beem pretty darn good...See Holloway, TU Crawford, Jordan.

Abell was a 2* 74 rated out of High School. Holloway I believe was a 3* 76 on ESPN. Abell is 6'4 200#. I am guessing he is a SG prospect despite being listed as a PG. If he is determined to handle the ball somewhere he will commit to SLU. I thought Mitchell for them handled the ball and he graduated. They still have Jett and McCall though.

I remember watching IU games in the tourney where they literally had nobody on the court who could bring the ball up the court and he still didn't get a whole lot of PT. That said, IU's recruiting class does not have a PG in it. I think Ferrell is just going to play 40 mins.

[kyxu]

Abell was a 2* 74 rated out of High School. Holloway I believe was a 3* 76 on ESPN. Abell is 6'4 200#. I am guessing he is a SG prospect despite being listed as a PG. If he is determined to handle the ball somewhere he will commit to SLU. I thought Mitchell for them handled the ball and he graduated. They still have Jett and McCall though.

Wonder if there is any connection between Jared Drew abruptly being forced out at SLU and Abell's impending decision.

[LA Muskie]

Wonder if there is any connection between Jared Drew abruptly being forced out at SLU and Abell's impending decision.
See that's what I thought as well. I don't think too many kids worry about other kids being shown the door. They all think it would never happen to them. That's why the practice has proliferated. There's no real stigma effect on the coaches, despite the fact there should be.

[El Shaqtus]

The G2 ‏@G2_Blog 58m
SOURCE: Former IU player Remy Abell will publicly announce tomorrow that he will transfer to Xavier.

Well, Crews is doing his best to make the country better.

[XUFan09]

The G2 ‏@G2_Blog 58m
SOURCE: Former IU player Remy Abell will publicly announce tomorrow that he will transfer to Xavier.

Well, Crews is doing his best to make the country better.

If that's true, that's not really cool that this guy "stole his thunder," so to speak.

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[ammtd34]

If that's true, that's not really cool that this guy "stole his thunder," so to speak.

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Yeah, good news I suppose. But not cool.

[GIMMFD]

This will be an interesting turn of events... it's been a good week to be an X fan.

[muskiefan82]

Does this mean X is no longer interested in these players that are supposedly on the list?


Lasan Kromah, 6-5, G, Sr., George Washington (can play immediately) -- UConn, Xavier
Errick Peck, 6-6, F, Sr., Cornell (will graduate) -- Purdue, Xavier

[Masterofreality]

Does this mean X is no longer interested in these players that are supposedly on the list?


Lasan Kromah, 6-5, G, Sr., George Washington (can play immediately) -- UConn, Xavier
Errick Peck, 6-6, F, Sr., Cornell (will graduate) -- Purdue, Xavier

Peck already committed to Pur-who

[xu95]

And unless we would still have a scholorship left (I honestly haven't done the math), I would think that would knock Kromah out too.

[Smails]

Abell was a 2* 74 rated out of High School. Holloway I believe was a 3* 76 on ESPN. Abell is 6'4 200#. I am guessing he is a SG prospect despite being listed as a PG. If he is determined to handle the ball somewhere he will commit to SLU. I thought Mitchell for them handled the ball and he graduated. They still have Jett and McCall though.

I remember watching IU games in the tourney where they literally had nobody on the court who could bring the ball up the court and he still didn't get a whole lot of PT. That said, IU's recruiting class does not have a PG in it. I think Ferrell is just going to play 40 mins.

He was a 3* according to both Scout and Rivals and one has him listed as a SF and the other as a SG. I don't think we will need him to play the point.

[danaandvictory]

And unless we would still have a scholorship left (I honestly haven't done the math), I would think that would knock Kromah out too.

Assuming Vezenkov and Abell are in the loop, we are at capacity - and that includes Stenger being off scholarship next year.

No clue whether they think another spot might open up.

[LA Muskie]

Assuming Vezenkov and Abell are in the loop, we are at capacity - and that includes Stenger being off scholarship next year.

No clue whether they think another spot might open up.

There is a bit of a clue on Scout.

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[crolfes12]

There is a bit of a clue on Scout.

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Are you hinting of a Muskie transferring?

[Pajama Joe]

I think he's hinting at subscribing to scout.

[nuts4xu]

There is a bit of a clue on Scout.



And a great clue it is!!

[THRILLHOUSE]

I'm getting such a raging clue right now
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[nuts4xu]

This has been a great week commit wise for Xavier.

I am sure the news on Scout will break some time soon.

[MHettel]

This has been a great week commit wise for Xavier.

I am sure the news on Scout will break some time soon.

I have no idea what the news could be, so I'll just take a guess that Justin Martin has hit the mandatory retirement age and is moving on.

[GoMuskies]

As long as it has nothing to do with RAs, condoms and/or the student judicial system, I'm good.

[LA Muskie]

What I'm thinking of isn't really news. I think there are already other reports of Abell's decision and regardless, in keeping with their policy of not stealing a kids' thunder Rick and Brian have actual stayed pretty tight-lipped about his decision (other than to note timing, the remaining schools in contention, and their opinion of our position vis-a-via the competition).

What I am thinking of was more an insight into our recruiting going forward, even with V and even if we get Abell.

Finally, a word about Scout. If you are interested enough to be reading or posting on recruiting threads - particularly if you find yourself doing so regularly - you need to join Scout. This site is no equivalent - not even close - to the insight Rick and Brian provide. If I seem protective of their proprietary info it is because their info and perspective is unique, interesting, and generally far more informed. It is inherently valuable, and we will lose them if people freeload. This is their job and if they aren't fairly compensated for it they may eventually move on. I for one would like to keep them in the fold.

[BMoreX]

Per Rick Broering, hell announce at 5 today.

[El Shaqtus]

Ben Weixlmann (Scout Writer for SLU) saying that all signs point to Xavier.

Ben Weixlmann ‏@BWeixScout 55m

For those asking, #Xavier is the expected landing spot for Abell from what I'm told.

[xu95]

Are you hinting of a Muskie transferring?

I can say with complete confidence that Muskie is not going anywhere.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Ben Weixlmann (Scout Writer for SLU) saying that all signs point to Xavier.

Ben Weixlmann ‏@BWeixScout 55m

For those asking, #Xavier is the expected landing spot for Abell from what I'm told.

If that is true, I can only think of 3 players right now who might want to transfer. I do not have premium so I don't know what the hint is.

James Farr (maybe since he didn't really play but usually guys give it 2 years before bailing)
Justin Martin (dude is old and inconsistent but if he works he should still get PT and would have to wait a year)
Dee Davis (with Abell as a 6'4 experienced SG and Semaj playing the PG spot and Randolph being a backup this year the writing is on the wall for Dee)

Dee Davis just makes sense but transfers and exits from the program don't make sense a lot of times.

[GoMuskies]

I subscribed to Snow when he was at Rivals. I thought the Musketeer Reports were informative in that he had a lot of information on who Xavier was interested in and how those kids felt about Xavier. However, it was very poorly written, and I didn't get the feeling that Snow had any great knowledge or insight beyond knowing who these kids were, how Xavier felt about them and how they felt about Xavier. Interesting stuff, but in the end not worth the money to me. I decided I could wait until actual news hit the mainstream press (or Twitter now).

[Milhouse]

It's definitively worth the 8-10 bucks a month for me. Especially in the off season tons of reading material/a great podcast with some awesome guests. Can't recommend it enough.

[bobbiemcgee]

If Martin left, he would graduate from his next school with a PHD in retirement planning. Oddly, I think this guy will soon find the "go" button on the court.

[Muskie]

What I'm thinking of isn't really news. I think there are already other reports of Abell's decision and regardless, in keeping with their policy of not stealing a kids' thunder Rick and Brian have actual stayed pretty tight-lipped about his decision (other than to note timing, the remaining schools in contention, and their opinion of our position vis-a-via the competition).

What I am thinking of was more an insight into our recruiting going forward, even with V and even if we get Abell.

Finally, a word about Scout. If you are interested enough to be reading or posting on recruiting threads - particularly if you find yourself doing so regularly - you need to join Scout. This site is no equivalent - not even close - to the insight Rick and Brian provide. If I seem protective of their proprietary info it is because their info and perspective is unique, interesting, and generally far more informed. It is inherently valuable, and we will lose them if people freeload. This is their job and if they aren't fairly compensated for it they may eventually move on. I for one would like to keep them in the fold.

I fully endorse scout. I believe we have a pretty decent policy of not posting premium info. I've reached out to both Rick and Brian in the past to let them know if they see any issues here to let me know.

[nuts4xu]

I subscribed to Snow when he was at Rivals. I thought the Musketeer Reports were informative in that he had a lot of information on who Xavier was interested in and how those kids felt about Xavier.

I felt the same way about the Rivals site, but with Snow and Rick Broering both writing for Scout, it seems Scout is more on top of things than Rivals ever was. Rivals is definitely not worth the money right now. Scout is still not Shakespeare and you will not find the most eloquent articles the web has ever seen. But the writing is along the lines of print media and is still good enough in my opinion.

They are always the first to report on recruits, and have much more basketball related content than this board. This board is still my favorite, but more for the banter and the characters on here. The forum allows more room for humor and non basketball related content. But the money spent on Scout is very much worth it in my opinion.

And the news that will break will be related to another player commit, not to anyone leaving the program. It is premium content on the Scout board, and posting it here would violate the rules of Scout. It is good news, and will be a great topic for discussion.

[XUFan09]

I subscribed to Snow when he was at Rivals. I thought the Musketeer Reports were informative in that he had a lot of information on who Xavier was interested in and how those kids felt about Xavier. However, it was very poorly written, and I didn't get the feeling that Snow had any great knowledge or insight beyond knowing who these kids were, how Xavier felt about them and how they felt about Xavier. Interesting stuff, but in the end not worth the money to me. I decided I could wait until actual news hit the mainstream press (or Twitter now).

I like the Musketeer Reports, but I really think that's second to the everyday info given in the forums, some of which never reaches the public. I definitely agree that Brian Snow's writing can be painful to read, but Rick Broering is a decent writer and does most of the articles for Xavier now.

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[El Shaqtus]

I'm hoping I didn't violate your board rules with the twitter posts.

If not, it doesn't seem like SLU is much for following rules in general.

Looks like Abell will be a good fit for you guys. Is he your last scholarship for this year?

[ammtd34]

Nah, I think Twitter is fair game.

[MHettel]

I fully endorse scout. I believe we have a pretty decent policy of not posting premium info. I've reached out to both Rick and Brian in the past to let them know if they see any issues here to let me know.

Here is what I dont understand.

Lets say something is posted on the Scout site. That means the guys there have information. it doesnt mean that they EXCLUSIVELY have this information. Maybe other people know the exact same thing as the guys on scout know. And maybe those other people tell other people (at no charge), and then the information makes it's way to this message board.

The scout dudes have not been infringed upon, and I dont understand why there is such a crusade to make exclusive now, what might not have been exclusive in the first place.

If a recruit comes out and says I told the guy from scout, and nobody else in the universe knows about it, then that makes sense, but thats not whats going on. These guys are in the business of selling somethign that can be had for free, and thats a tough business. Is the Gestapo here getting some type of kickback?

Also, if you know something and come on the board and tell people you know something, then follow that up with "but I'm not telling", then you are a 5 year old.

[RealDeal]

Ok, whether or not we get this guy, is he any good? Is he a bench player or likely starter? Thanks.

[El Shaqtus]

Here is what I dont understand.

Lets say something is posted on the Scout site. That means the guys there have information. it doesnt mean that they EXCLUSIVELY have this information. Maybe other people know the exact same thing as the guys on scout know. And maybe those other people tell other people (at no charge), and then the information makes it's way to this message board.

The scout dudes have not been infringed upon, and I dont understand why there is such a crusade to make exclusive now, what might not have been exclusive in the first place.

If a recruit comes out and says I told the guy from scout, and nobody else in the universe knows about it, then that makes sense, but thats not whats going on. These guys are in the business of selling somethign that can be had for free, and thats a tough business. Is the Gestapo here getting some type of kickback?

Also, if you know something and come on the board and tell people you know something, then follow that up with "but I'm not telling", then you are a 5 year old.

That's why I stick with the Sgt. Schultz reply: I know nothing.

[Masterofreality]

I'm hoping I didn't violate your board rules with the twitter posts.

If not, it doesn't seem like SLU is much for following rules in general.

Looks like Abell will be a good fit for you guys. Is he your last scholarship for this year?


Nah. That was public domain. Anyone with a Twitter account could see that.

Also, Shaqtus, note that we have a "Tweets You Gotta Love" thread.

[ammtd34]

Here is what I dont understand.

Lets say something is posted on the Scout site. That means the guys there have information. it doesnt mean that they EXCLUSIVELY have this information. Maybe other people know the exact same thing as the guys on scout know. And maybe those other people tell other people (at no charge), and then the information makes it's way to this message board.

The scout dudes have not been infringed upon, and I dont understand why there is such a crusade to make exclusive now, what might not have been exclusive in the first place.

If a recruit comes out and says I told the guy from scout, and nobody else in the universe knows about it, then that makes sense, but thats not whats going on. These guys are in the business of selling somethign that can be had for free, and thats a tough business. Is the Gestapo here getting some type of kickback?

Also, if you know something and come on the board and tell people you know something, then follow that up with "but I'm not telling", then you are a 5 year old.

You seem to be saying that everything on the board is available somewhere else. That's not really the case. If it is available somewhere else, I'd definitely have to search and search for that information, which isn't really something that I want to do.

For example, the people on that board have been keeping up with the Remy situation for a while now, whereas the topic just came to this board yesterday. If you don't care because you'll get the information eventually, fine. But some people want it sooner.

And often times there are things exclusive to the Scout guys.

[El Shaqtus]

Nah. That was public domain. Anyone with a Twitter account could see that.

Also, Shaqtus, note that we have a "Tweets You Gotta Love" thread.

But I didn't love it :)

[1757Williams]

Ok, whether or not we get this guy, is he any good? Is he a bench player or likely starter? Thanks.

I would think Abell would start in 14-15 at either SG or SF. For some reason, those on the board thinks SLU offers a better chance at PT, but under what basis? Abell got 12 minutes on a team who spent a large majority of the season ranked #1 and posted great tempo free stats (>110 Ortg both seasons). He didn't get minutes because Oladipo and Hulls were in those spots.

Good player, good size, the only way he doesn't start is if some of the newcomers greatly exceed expectations. And even in that situation, Abell would likely get 20-25 minutes.

[El Shaqtus]

I would think Abell would start in 14-15 at either SG or SF. For some reason, those on the board thinks SLU offers a better chance at PT, but under what basis? Abell got 12 minutes on a team who spent a large majority of the season ranked #1 and posted great tempo free stats (>110 Ortg both seasons). He didn't get minutes because Oladipo and Hulls were in those spots.

Good player, good size, the only way he doesn't start is if some of the newcomers greatly exceed expectations. And even in that situation, Abell would likely get 20-25 minutes.

McCall and Jett are seniors, so that's where the "more playing time" comes from.

[1757Williams]

McCall and Jett are seniors, so that's where the "more playing time" comes from.

Understood, but with the transfers that have to sit out a year, it is much more difficult to project playing time. A freshman/newcomer could play above expectations in 13-14, a big time recruit could be signed, a 5th year transfer, etc.

[XUFan09]

Here is what I dont understand.

Lets say something is posted on the Scout site. That means the guys there have information. it doesnt mean that they EXCLUSIVELY have this information. Maybe other people know the exact same thing as the guys on scout know. And maybe those other people tell other people (at no charge), and then the information makes it's way to this message board.

The scout dudes have not been infringed upon, and I dont understand why there is such a crusade to make exclusive now, what might not have been exclusive in the first place.

If a recruit comes out and says I told the guy from scout, and nobody else in the universe knows about it, then that makes sense, but thats not whats going on. These guys are in the business of selling somethign that can be had for free, and thats a tough business. Is the Gestapo here getting some type of kickback?

Also, if you know something and come on the board and tell people you know something, then follow that up with "but I'm not telling", then you are a 5 year old.

I don't recall anything ever being removed from this board that was known on Scout but divulged through another source, so your idea of a "crusade" or "Gestapo" of sorts doesn't seem founded on actual facts. The only time there might be an issue is when a subscriber learned something specifically through Scout and then divulged that info, against the terms of service. If they learned it elsewhere, no problem.

In the first place, Scout provides info generally not found elsewhere because their sources (and the sources of some of the posters) are comfortable with information being released on a private forum, when they wouldn't be okay with that info being in the public eye.

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[anXUfan]

For me, a big reason to subscribe to Scout is the series of regular podcasts. They're very well done, often have good guests, and were never part of my old Rivals subscription.

[paulxu]

Well, somebody went and derailed this thread didn't they. Maybe Gestapo is the G spot.

But I'm on record as not liking people to link to a paid website and taking the time to go there and being unable to read it.
I'm also in favor of them protecting their paid content; just don't screw around with linking to the firewall.
And Muskie, I don't think people are certain something in the Scout forum will always stay there. That's probably a little naïve. Do they really trust all their subscribers not to repeat something? How would people know if MOR shared it in a bar somewhere?

And what's the point in hinting that you know something but can't tell? Does that make you feel good at night? Get a life.

[LA Muskie]

And what's the point in hinting that you know something but can't tell? Does that make you feel good at night? Get a life.
If that was the reason I agree. But I suspect most do it to let others on this board know where they can get the info if they want it. It's not like scout is an exclusive club. They will take anyone who is willing to pay.

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[THRILLHOUSE]

It's official, Remy is coming to X!

[BMoreX]

What a week

[Masterofreality]

Attention to any player considering Indiana:

Just skip IU Junior college and come straight to Xavier. You'll save time and Tom Crean won't get a chance to screw you up where Chris Mack has to fix you.

[paulxu]

It's official, Remy is coming to X!

Where did he announce it?

[kyxu]

Where did he announce it?

On the can.

Maybe you should have subscribed to Scout to see it.

[THRILLHOUSE]

Where did he announce it?

Ben Weixlmann ‏@BWeixScout 16m
Former #iubb guard Remy Abell (@23Abell) informs me that he has committed to #Xavier.

[paulxu]

On the can.

Maybe you should have subscribed to Scout to see it.

Well played.

[GoMuskies]

I didn't realize Abell was a Louisville kid. This means that he's clearly a quality individual and will be an asset to our program and university as a whole.

[paulxu]

Who is Andrew Mitchell and is he coming to X with Remy?

Congratulations to my brother @A_Mitchell5 he's graduating today with a 3.0! We about to do this together!!! #X

Andrew Mitchell ‏@A_Mitchell5 5s
Xavier bound!!!!�������������������� #Blessed

[BBC 08]

I didn't realize Abell was a Louisville kid. This means that he's clearly a quality individual and will be an asset to our program and university as a whole.

You can say this about every Louisville kid except those cretins from Trinity.

[muskiefan82]

Who is Andrew Mitchell and is he coming to X with Remy?

Congratulations to my brother @A_Mitchell5 he's graduating today with a 3.0! We about to do this together!!! #X

Andrew Mitchell ‏@A_Mitchell5 5s
Xavier bound!!!!�������������������� #Blessed

Yes, who is this Andrew Mitchell person?

[GreatWhiteNorth]

Maybe this Andrew Mitchell is not a basketball player......just a guess.

[MHettel]

I don't recall anything ever being removed from this board that was known on Scout but divulged through another source, so your idea of a "crusade" or "Gestapo" of sorts doesn't seem founded on actual facts. The only time there might be an issue is when a subscriber learned something specifically through Scout and then divulged that info, against the terms of service. If they learned it elsewhere, no problem.

In the first place, Scout provides info generally not found elsewhere because their sources (and the sources of some of the posters) are comfortable with information being released on a private forum, when they wouldn't be okay with that info being in the public eye.

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It just gets better. What exactly do you mean when someone divulged info against the terms of service? If you are neither the person who is divilging the info, nor the person who is providing the service terms that are violated, then why the hell are you involved? Seriously.

And whats BETTER is the idea that the kids giving the information wouldnt be comfortable telling everyone, but would be comfortable with just a select group of people knowing in a "private forum." But then again if everyone joined the private forum, wouldnt that be just the same as telling someone on a public forum?

Do you think the guys at Scout start of every interview this way "by the way, whatever you tell me, I'm going to sell?" I doubt it.

I dont pay for the information because I'm too cheap. I have 4 kids and dont need to be dropping a hundred bucks a year on something like that. But this content is FAR from exclusive, and it is reasonable and realistic that more than just a recruit and a guy from scout knows where the recruit is going. these recruits have friends, family and other hangers-on that know just the same info as the scout guys and can pass it along at their choosing. If it makes it way to this board, it should be allowed to stay.

Honestly, I dont care and can wait to get the info. I just think it's annoying the way you guys act like this is a matter of national security.

[Jweinka]

Found this when I searched the twitter name:

Andrew Mitchell ‏@A_Mitchell5 35m
Going to school there attempting to walk on to #Xavier for everyone asking but God got me!!! ����������

So it does not seem to be big news but who knows what this kid can do.

[XUFan09]

It just gets better. What exactly do you mean when someone divulged info against the terms of service? If you are neither the person who is divilging the info, nor the person who is providing the service terms that are violated, then why the hell are you involved? Seriously.

And whats BETTER is the idea that the kids giving the information wouldnt be comfortable telling everyone, but would be comfortable with just a select group of people knowing in a "private forum." But then again if everyone joined the private forum, wouldnt that be just the same as telling someone on a public forum?

Do you think the guys at Scout start of every interview this way "by the way, whatever you tell me, I'm going to sell?" I doubt it.

I dont pay for the information because I'm too cheap. I have 4 kids and dont need to be dropping a hundred bucks a year on something like that. But this content is FAR from exclusive, and it is reasonable and realistic that more than just a recruit and a guy from scout knows where the recruit is going. these recruits have friends, family and other hangers-on that know just the same info as the scout guys and can pass it along at their choosing. If it makes it way to this board, it should be allowed to stay.

Honestly, I dont care and can wait to get the info. I just think it's annoying the way you guys act like this is a matter of national security.

- Why am I (or anyone else) involved if I am neither the person violating the terms of service nor the person whose terms are violated? Someone with respect for the job done by Rick Broering and the others and someone who wants the product I purchase to be well-maintained. If people regularly divulge information that should stay on the premium board, Broering, Snow, the other Scout employees, and even insider members on that board will be a little hesitant to provide information that normally they would provide. The service then goes downhill. You're basically implying that it is none of my business, when in fact it affects me if it becomes a regular occurence. Muskie as a moderator of this board respects the work they put in and the money we put in for premium content. By the way, as far as I know, we are under no terms of service to not reveal info given to us by insider members of the forum, but still we generally don't out of respect to the people who chose to only give their info on a premium board as opposed to a public one.

- "But then again if everyone joined the private forum, wouldn't that be just the same as telling someone on a public forum?" Why do you present an if-then statement that you know will not possibly come to fruition? Nothing but a cheap rhetorical device. The good majority of people on XHoops, MM, etc., will never subscribe to Scout, so your "argument" is basically empty words. It would be as if I said, "If I was much more athletic and better skilled with a basketball, I could play college ball," and then I presented that like it was part of my argument.

- These kids do feel more comfortable giving info to some people than others. The vast majority of them know how this game works, and they know Scout employees are paid to provide information, mostly for paying customers rather than the general public. They also know that as a subset of journalists, Broering, Snow, Dave Telep, Eric Bossi, and others will exercise some discretion.

- I already agreed that this information almost always is not exclusive to Scout employees, so I don't know why you would bring that up again unless you weren't paying attention. The thing is, much of the time other people are not willing to provide what they know to the general public. And yes, they could be more inclined to provide it on a private forum (I know people who do just that) or at the very least the Scout employees will be willing to provide info only on that forum. There are some who still wouldn't provide info, but they aren't going to be providing info to the general public anyway. You seem to imply that this info is just as easily available elsewhere, but much of it never reaches a public forum or it reaches it much later, because these people are only releasing info on Scout (or sometimes Rivals). How could you possibly claim that they are about the same if you aren't a subscriber to Scout? You can't. It's just an unfounded assertion. As a member of both boards, though, I can with confidence say that the level of info provided is quite different.

Oh, and if you "don't care and can wait to get the info," why are you insisting that info from Broering, et. al., that other people paid for but you didn't should stay over here? You weren't willing to pay for it, which obviously is perfectly fine, as it's your financial discretion, but why then do you think you and other non-subscribers are entitled to it?

[LA Muskie]

MHettel, I can go to the library and get just about any book or movie I want for free. But still I buy most of my books and rent most of my movies. Because the convenience is worth something. As is scout -- it's not just exclusivity. In fact it's not exclusive at all. But it is editorial and it is aggregated. And for both of those reasons it has value to me. If you don't want to pay for it that is your prerogative. I have every respect for that. But you should have equal respect for Rick and Brian. I do.

[LA Muskie]

Oh, and if you "don't care and can wait to get the info," why are you insisting that info from Broering, et. al., that other people paid for but you didn't should stay over here? You weren't willing to pay for it, which is perfectly fine, obviously, as it's your financial discretion, but why then do you think you and other non-subscribers are entitled to it?
Because this is America. Sorry. Couldn't help myself. And I'm a Libertarian.

[XUFan09]

Because this is America. Sorry. Couldn't help myself. And I'm a Libertarian.

LOL! I was thinking something along those lines, actually, and I'm a liberal :-P

[usfldan]

Found this when I searched the twitter name:

Andrew Mitchell ‏@A_Mitchell5 35m
Going to school there attempting to walk on to #Xavier for everyone asking but God got me!!! ����������

So it does not seem to be big news but who knows what this kid can do.

1.1 points per game in 12 games at Danville Area Community College (Juco in Danville, IL).

http://stats.njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2012-13/div2/players/andrewmitchellyjar

[XUFan09]

1.1 points per game in 12 games at Danville Area Community College (Juco in Danville, IL).

http://stats.njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2012-13/div2/players/andrewmitchellyjar

Hoping to walk on, apparently.

[GIMMFD]

Hoping to walk on, apparently.

I'll take Landon Amos.

[Masterofreality]

A lot of this is cliche' and the guy calls us the "University of Xavier" but always good to hear a few thoughts from our players- especially one who hasn't had the chance to express himself yet.

http://celliottsports.com

[nkymuskie]

U of X 4 LYFE!

[Milhouse]

Tom Crean - the gift that keeps on giving.