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[casualfan]

It's not really the fact that they're losing them, it's more about the fact that they can't afford them or Simmons anymore.

I don't think that's the case. They basically let Simmons walk.

They could pay them if they want to IMHO, but at some point youve got to be able to justify that investment.

[Juice]

I don't think that's the case. They basically let Simmons walk.

They could pay them if they want to IMHO, but at some point youve got to be able to justify that investment.

They're losing subscribers and they have been told to cut costs by Disney. This is part of it.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/vincentfrank/2015/07/12/losing-millions-of-subscribers-espn-now-facing-tough-decisions/

[X-band '01]

You have to wonder if ESPN3 and their other online streams will eventually become an exclusive online-pay channel.

Better yet, will cable companies find a way to become even more a la carte and become more profitable in the process?

[casualfan]

They're losing subscribers and they have been told to cut costs by Disney. This is part of it.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/vincentfrank/2015/07/12/losing-millions-of-subscribers-espn-now-facing-tough-decisions/

Totally different than not being able to afford a guy.

Just because they've been told to cut costs doesn't mean that's why simmons is leaving.

[fellahmuskie]

I'm excited about Colin joining Fox. Him and LeBatard are the only ESPN guys I listen to.

I know Cowherd annoys a lot of people, but he's easily one of the best entertainers in sports media. If you don't take him seriously and enjoy his delivery, it's pretty good stuff.

[DC Muskie]

Cowherd is terrible, but if he helps boost the ratings, then go for it. I don't waste time listening or watching these idiots. I waste my time being an idiot here.

[xu82]

Cowherd is terrible, but if he helps boost the ratings, then go for it. I don't waste time listening or watching these idiots. I waste my time being an idiot here.

Cutting out the middle man... shrewd move!

[casualfan]

Cowherd doesn't even work there yet and he's already screwing things up for Fox. You can't make this stuff up.

http://deadspin.com/report-the-mlbpa-is-seriously-pissed-off-at-colin-cowh-1719939960?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitte r&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

From the article:

The person, who spoke to USA TODAY Sports on condition of anonymity due to the sensitive nature of the topic, also said the lack of response from ESPN - and Cowherd’s future employer, Fox, has upset its members just as much as the comments, and they will consider withholding cooperation with the networks. ESPN and Fox are national rightsholders to major league games, and Fox carries its jewel events, the All-Star Game and World Series.

[fellahmuskie]

I wouldn't be surprised if Cowherd just torpedoed his career with those comments. Even though I like him, what he said was completely idiotic and I don't think I'll be listening to him much in the future. Sucks for Fox, though.

[Juice]

I wouldn't be surprised if Cowherd just torpedoed his career with those comments. Even though I like him, what he said was completely idiotic and I don't think I'll be listening to him much in the future. Sucks for Fox, though.

Did you ever see/hear what he said about John Wall? The guy has been an idiot long before this.

[casualfan]

Did you ever see/hear what he said about John Wall? The guy has been an idiot long before this.

I don't know what was dumber, his initial take on Wall or his digging in and refusing to admit he was wrong since then.

Cowherd is a boob.

[Juice]

I don't know what was dumber, his initial take on Wall or his digging in and refusing to admit he was wrong since then.

Cowherd is a boob.

http://deadspin.com/remember-all-those-other-times-colin-cowherd-said-racis-1720163539
Nice compilation here

[JTG]

Cowherd is a dick, but do agree with his point that people say baseball is so complex. Usually if you tell a baseball fan, it bores you , they will say "Oh, it's just because you don't understand the complex nuances of the game". They hit a ball with a fucking stick, and run. Pretty simple. There are ways they could make baseball watchable. 1. Do away with warm up pitches. Does Manning get to throw 5 practice slants to his receivers when the offense takes the field, hell no. Does LeBron get to take 4 layups when he checks in. no fing way. 2. Use a 10 second pitch clock. 3. If you step out of the batters box to adjust your nuts its a strike. actually if you step out for any reason it's a strike. Take all those managers out of uniforms. Sorry it's just a boring waste of 3 hours.

[XUFan09]

Cowherd is a dick, but do agree with his point that people say baseball is so complex. Usually if you tell a baseball fan, it bores you , they will say "Oh, it's just because you don't understand the complex nuances of the game". They hit a ball with a fucking stick, and run. Pretty simple. There are ways they could make baseball watchable. 1. Do away with warm up pitches. Does Manning get to throw 5 practice slants to his receivers when the offense takes the field, hell no. Does LeBron get to take 4 layups when he checks in. no fing way. 2. Use a 10 second pitch clock. 3. If you step out of the batters box to adjust your nuts its a strike. actually if you step out for any reason it's a strike. Take all those managers out of uniforms. Sorry it's just a boring waste of 3 hours.

Guy who doesn't care to watch the game offers questionable advice that would lead him to still not watch the game.

[fellahmuskie]

Did you ever see/hear what he said about John Wall? The guy has been an idiot long before this.

I listen(ed) to the show about 5 hrs a week, so I know all about his idiotic stuff in the past. He finally pissed me off for good with his Dominican comments.

The thing with Colin, though, is that he's either horrible or amazing. There's no in between. He's had some really inspiring segments on Caitlin Jenner, gay marriage, America's duplicity when it comes to the FIFA corruption scandal, and systemic racism.

I doubt anyone else on here listens to him regularly, but, believe me, Deadspin and other blogs never give him credit for the really cool stuff he does say.

All that to say, he's still an arrogant, pompous prick and deserves every bit of criticism he gets.

[GoMuskies]

He's had some really inspiring segments on Caitlin Jenner, gay marriage, America's duplicity when it comes to the FIFA corruption scandal, and systemic racism.

Does he ever talk about sports? That sounds horrible.

[GoMuskies]

Cowherd is a dick, but do agree with his point that people say baseball is so complex. Usually if you tell a baseball fan, it bores you , they will say "Oh, it's just because you don't understand the complex nuances of the game". They hit a ball with a fucking stick, and run. Pretty simple. There are ways they could make baseball watchable. 1. Do away with warm up pitches. Does Manning get to throw 5 practice slants to his receivers when the offense takes the field, hell no. Does LeBron get to take 4 layups when he checks in. no fing way. 2. Use a 10 second pitch clock. 3. If you step out of the batters box to adjust your nuts its a strike. actually if you step out for any reason it's a strike. Take all those managers out of uniforms. Sorry it's just a boring waste of 3 hours.

Next up on things no one gives a shit about: my ideas on how to make soccer watchable.

[muskiefan82]

Next up on things no one gives a shit about: my ideas on how to make soccer watchable.

What if the last 5 minutes of each half was tackle soccer?

[fellahmuskie]

Does he ever talk about sports? That sounds horrible.

Yeah, when I say "inspiring" I realize not everyone may view it that way, ha ha. Way more politics and social commentary from Colin than the average sports guy, that's for sure. Part of the reason he gets in trouble so much. He has a tough time sticking to sports.

[X-band '01]

Former St. John's C Chris Obekpa will be transferring to UNLV. He'll sit out a year and be eligible in 2016-17 for his senior season.

[bobbiemcgee]

ESPN ? said something nice about the BE:

from Marquette board:

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=48560.0

[xudash]

ESPN ? said something nice about the BE:

from Marquette board:

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=48560.0

That is a very nice article.

[muskiefan82]

Gasaway to be fired by ESPN and hired by FS1 in 3.........2...........1...........

[X-band '01]

Interesting news out of Butler University:

Indianapolis Business-Journal: Butler Replaces Student Newspaper Adviser with University Spokesman (http://www.ibj.com/articles/54802-butler-replaces-student-newspaper-adviser-with-university-spokesman?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ibj.com%2Farticles% 2F54802-butler-replaces-student-newspaper-adviser-with-university-spokesman)

How many schools have their newspapers being run by administrators from their own public relations department?

[XUFan09]

Interesting news out of Butler University:

Indianapolis Business-Journal: Butler Replaces Student Newspaper Adviser with University Spokesman (http://www.ibj.com/articles/54802-butler-replaces-student-newspaper-adviser-with-university-spokesman?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ibj.com%2Farticles% 2F54802-butler-replaces-student-newspaper-adviser-with-university-spokesman)

How many schools have their newspapers being run by administrators from their own public relations department?

Considering that student newspapers are sometimes critical of the administration itself, I think we can dub that a conflict of interest.

[DC Muskie]

Yeah I saw that yesterday and had a chuckle. I'm sure the kids at Butler are perfectly fine with that.

I wonder who thought that was a good idea.

[XUFan09]

Actually got a chance to read the article now. It's a clear case of looking for a reason to remove or fire someone from a position. College administrators are obsessed with good PR, and as a result, a student newspaper that actually does a good job is a thorn in their sides. They can latch onto one mistake now and use it as justification, because it's hard to prove selective enforcement of rules.

[sirthought]

ESPN ? said something nice about the BE:

from Marquette board:

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=48560.0

I thought the piece was poorly written. He thinks there is some controversy over who pushed out whom from the Big East. Not so.
And I don't know how you can look at Villanova's success and not consider them the current flagship. Seems like a perspective of someone who wasn't really paying close attention before and is just now catching up.

[bobbiemcgee]

http://www.todaysu.com/big-east-today/big-east-basketball-10-breakouts-to-watch-for-in-2015-16/

[DC Muskie]

Ahhhh...Josh Hart. The one that got away.

[XUFan09]

Ahhhh...Josh Hart. The one that got away.
Seriously.

[bobbiemcgee]

Nice seeing Coach Mack and the Big East coaches on America's Pregame. And Molly McGrath....

[BlueX]

Nice seeing Coach Mack and the Big East coaches on America's Pregame. And Molly McGrath....

That was a nice surprise to see this evening. So who was he out recruiting in LA.

[94GRAD]

That was a nice surprise to see this evening. So who was he out recruiting in LA.

They have a NYC studio as well

[bobbiemcgee]

In case you missed it, here's the new? website:

http://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/big-east

[novachap]

In case you missed it, here's the new? website:

http://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/big-east

Great interaction between Mack and Wright.... gonna be a great year!

[bobbiemcgee]

Big games:

http://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2015/9/23/9383665/2015-2016-top-5-games-xavier-musketeers

[XUMIOH12]

Shamorie Ponds committed to St. John's. Good start to Mullin's first full class.

[XUFan09]

Shamorie Ponds committed to St. John's. Good start to Mullin's first full class.
Nice! He was actually being recruited by Xavier at one point this year, as a backup to their priority recruits.

I'm not sure exactly how long X was recruiting him, though it was at least as recently as this summer. Nevertheless, it says good things for St. John's if the guy was at least on our staff's radar.

[casualfan]

Nice! He was actually being recruited by Xavier at one point this year, as a backup to their priority recruits.

I'm not sure exactly how long X was recruiting him, though it was at least as recently as this summer. Nevertheless, it says good things for St. John's if the guy was at least on our staff's radar.

He's a high 4 star player ranked as high as 5th on the country by one publication.

He was on just about everybody's radar.

[XUFan09]

He's a high 4 star player ranked as high as 5th on the country by one publication.

He was on just about everybody's radar.
OK I'm mixing him up with someone else then. Even better situation.

[XUMIOH12]

OK I'm mixing him up with someone else then. Even better situation.

Yeah, he is a consensus top 60 player haha. Don't think he was ever all that interested in Xavier. But, it worked out well for Xavier anyways, and SJ got their NY guy.

[paulxu]

Congratulations Abbey!


first to be tabbed BIG EAST Player of the Year since Xavier joined the conference in 2013.

http://wac.b63f.edgecastcdn.net/80B63F/images/sidearm.sites/goxavier.com/images/2015/11/24/bessler_text.png

http://www.goxavier.com/news/2015/11/24/VB_1124154637.aspx

[Masterofreality]

Congratulations Abbey!



http://wac.b63f.edgecastcdn.net/80B63F/images/sidearm.sites/goxavier.com/images/2015/11/24/bessler_text.png

http://www.goxavier.com/news/2015/11/24/VB_1124154637.aspx

THAT is fantastic news, and Abbey is a fantastic Volleyball Player!

[paulxu]

OK then.


Big East dominates at holiday tourneys

Villanova, Marquette, Creighton and Xavier all won holiday tournament championships. Providence was runner-up at the Wooden Legacy.

[Emp]

Georgetown tickets reached out to me today, by phone and email. I've been at the last two away games there, so I'm apparently on their list.

Seem to be making a serious effort to fill the Verizon Center, which is good. I was stunned at low turnouts for midweek games. DC is a tough market with so many sports options, and Maryland is especially strong this season. Still, great tradition and way more alums than X, they should be doing better.

[bobbiemcgee]

Set your dvr for the "Inside the Big East" show on FS1. 1st segment was practically all Xavier and Coach Mack with a nice piece on Kris Dunn. Donny Marshall picks us to win BE. Next repeat tonight sometime.

[xupuck10]

Set your dvr for the "Inside the Big East" show on FS1. 1st segment was practically all Xavier and Coach Mack with a nice piece on Kris Dunn. Donny Marshall picks us to win BE. Next repeat tonight sometime.

Here's the link for the video (http://www.foxsports.com/video?vid=595088963630) from the XU practice.

[X Factor]

Thanks to the above for the link. Love watching that kind of stuff.

[bobbiemcgee]

Nice story on Trevon, Andrew Smith, Coach Mullins, Depaul, etc. on Inside the Big East today.

[bobbiemcgee]

Coach Mack and all things Xavier: "Growing up in the Queen City' on Inside the Big East today.

[X-band '01]

I almost had to change the channel after watching Marquette practicing in sports bros.

[American X]

DePaul stands to reap $34 million from basketball arena by McCormick Place (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/watchdog/ct-depaul-basketball-arena-met-20160303-story.html)

When DePaul University agreed to contribute $82 million toward the publicly funded McCormick Place Events Center, the private school positioned itself to gain more than just a $200 million new home for its basketball teams.

DePaul also stands to recoup at least $34 million off naming rights, sponsorships and other revenue streams through its partnership with the arena's landlord, the Metropolitan Pier and Exposition Authority, according to estimates included in the school's agreement with a New York marketing company.

DePaul will pay annual rent to the agency, known as McPier, starting at nearly $445,000, for the next 50 years, but the school won't have to contribute to the building's maintenance, records show. And its cut of ticket revenues will increase from the current arrangement at Allstate Arena in Rosemont.

That arrangement makes the arena a low-risk bet for DePaul and its struggling basketball team, economists and experts said. Even if game attendance remains low, DePaul will still recoup some of its investment, and the school could benefit substantially if all 10,000 seats fill up.

"If there's a winner here, it's DePaul," said Allen Sanderson, a University of Chicago sports economist.

[XMuskieFTW]

DePaul stands to reap $34 million from basketball arena by McCormick Place (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/watchdog/ct-depaul-basketball-arena-met-20160303-story.html)

When DePaul University agreed to contribute $82 million toward the publicly funded McCormick Place Events Center, the private school positioned itself to gain more than just a $200 million new home for its basketball teams.

DePaul also stands to recoup at least $34 million off naming rights, sponsorships and other revenue streams through its partnership with the arena's landlord, the Metropolitan Pier and Exposition Authority, according to estimates included in the school's agreement with a New York marketing company.

DePaul will pay annual rent to the agency, known as McPier, starting at nearly $445,000, for the next 50 years, but the school won't have to contribute to the building's maintenance, records show. And its cut of ticket revenues will increase from the current arrangement at Allstate Arena in Rosemont.

That arrangement makes the arena a low-risk bet for DePaul and its struggling basketball team, economists and experts said. Even if game attendance remains low, DePaul will still recoup some of its investment, and the school could benefit substantially if all 10,000 seats fill up.

"If there's a winner here, it's DePaul," said Allen Sanderson, a University of Chicago sports economist.

As someone who has made the trip for the DePaul game the past three years, I'm really excited for this. Looks like it's going to be a very nice place, and hopefully it's able to help them draw better recruits in spite of themselves.

[MADXSTER]

200 Mil for a 10k arena??

[smileyy]

When DePaul University agreed to contribute $82 million toward the publicly funded McCormick Place Events Center

Hooray. Private entity benefits from public funding.

[Masterofreality]

200 Mil for a 10k arena??

Downtown Chicago pricing brother. Cintas for $44 million is a phucking bargain!

[X-band '01]

Quick question - how many student sections in the country have their student sections only in the upper deck?

The DePaulia - McCormick Place Update (http://depauliaonline.com/2016/05/15/depaul-arena-student-section/)

Apparently, the "Demon Deck" student section will not be on the floor - it's now up to what's left of the fat cat donors at DePaul to make for a hostile environment at floor level when the new arena opens up in 2017-18.

[xudash]

Quick question - how many student sections in the country have their student sections only in the upper deck?

The DePaulia - McCormick Place Update (http://depauliaonline.com/2016/05/15/depaul-arena-student-section/)

Apparently, the "Demon Deck" student section will not be on the floor - it's now up to what's left of the fat cat donors at DePaul to make for a hostile environment at floor level when the new arena opens up in 2017-18.

We are blessed to have such a solid AD and Administration, because I cannot fathom being saddled with the idiot AD they have in Chicago.

[BMoreX]

Haha that sucks.

(Though it's only a few dozen students who go, sooooo....)

[XMuskieFTW]

Those 14 students are probably so angry.

[Xville]

wow, just wow.....can we kick them out of the league please? way to completely zap the energy out of an arena.

[X-band '01]

Haha that sucks.

(Though it's only a few dozen students who go, sooooo....)


Those 14 students are probably so angry.

There's also a chicken and egg element involved with DePaul; I can't entirely blame the students when they have to make a 30-mile trek across Chicagoland to get to AllState Arena. It's worse for night games when they have to get through rush hour.

It begs another question - why even build a new arena if this is the outcome?

[XMuskieFTW]

At least the new arena will be accessible by subway instead of Allstate which is a couple miles from the nearest stop.

[Xtemporaneous]

God that is so awful on so many fronts. I love the way they're trying to spin it. "Yeah kids can have an ice cream social before the game". WTF DePaul?

[paulxu]

I think they just wanted those kids to have a safe space.

[X-band '01]

I think they just wanted DePaul's opponents to have a safe space.

Fixed that for you Paul.

[GoMuskies]

I think they just wanted those kids to have a safe space.

They should drop men's basketball, then.

I assume a student ticket to a DePaul men's basketball game comes with a trigger warning.

[ammtd34]

They should drop men's basketball, then.

I assume a student ticket to a DePaul men's basketball game comes with a trigger warning.

Our fans should bring giant Milo Yiannopoulos heads.

[paulxu]

I got an idea. When we play DePaul at their place in the new arena, let's buy up all the seats where the students would normally sit.
Bring X fans and it will look like a X home game on TV.

(Trying to picture the cut away to the upper deck for a student shot is hard for some reason. Maybe they'll have to stage a camera guy up there.)

[xudash]

I got an idea. When we play DePaul at their place in the new arena, let's buy up all the seats where the students would normally sit.
Bring X fans and it will look like a X home game on TV.

(Trying to picture the cut away to the upper deck for a student shot is hard for some reason. Maybe they'll have to stage a camera guy up there.)

That is a perfectly humiliating idea.

We should take "Thank You (AD's Name)" signs to rub it in.

[GIMMFD]

I wonder who approved that and though "you know what, that sounds like a good idea, let's not engage the students at all!! It's a home-run", DePaul really needs to figure out what would be beneficial for improving the basketball scene rather than what brings in money. Build the program, the money and donors will come once you become competitive. Jesus.

On a side note, one of their recruits that just signed Levi Cook lived 20 minutes or so away from me, great guy. An opposing player was talking trash to a cheerleader on his team and he came over and said, "You probably don't want to do that." Was always the biggest on the court when he was playing in WV, ended up losing so much weight, and really getting in shape to get himself a good scholarship, originally committed to WVU, then went to Monteverde (I think), and wanting to play in the Big East (Providence was after him too), wish that guy good luck, but screw the rest of that dumpster fire of a program. Sorry for the rant lol.

[XMuskieFTW]

Providence released their entire nonconference schedule today. My guess is they go 8-5. Rhody and UMass will be pretty good next year.

http://www.friars.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched/prov-m-baskbl-sched.html

[EastCoastXman]

Looks like they have New England covered. What happened to U of New Hampshire?

[X-band '01]

They're on there - November 30.

Only UConn is missing among New England flagship schools.

[GIMMFD]

Providence released their entire nonconference schedule today. My guess is they go 8-5. Rhody and UMass will be pretty good next year.

http://www.friars.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched/prov-m-baskbl-sched.html

Yeah, I'm not too sure what to expect with Dunn and Bentil gone, I still think Cooley can coach, but he's got a long road ahead of him.

[XMuskieFTW]

Yeah, I'm not too sure what to expect with Dunn and Bentil gone, I still think Cooley can coach, but he's got a long road ahead of him.

Lomomba transferred also. He was one of their best defenders. They also had another freshman big man transfer. I expect them to struggle mightily in conference.

[XUFan09]

Lomomba transferred also. He was one of their best defenders. They also had another freshman big man transfer. I expect them to struggle mightily in conference.
I didn't realize he transferred. That's another starter gone.

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[X-band '01]

Not sure if this was already covered:

Tommy Hamilton IV Out at DePaul (http://www.depaulbluedemons.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/062216aaa.html)

On the other hand, former Buckeye Austin Grindstaff is transferring to DePaul.

[XMuskieFTW]

Not sure if this was already covered:

Tommy Hamilton IV Out at DePaul (http://www.depaulbluedemons.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/062216aaa.html)

On the other hand, former Buckeye Austin Grindstaff is transferring to DePaul.

Wow. Surprised to see him go. They'll probably finish last next year in the Big East. Their nonconference schedule is abysmal. Probably their worst ever. It was released today and 7 of their 9 home games are against teams who last year had RPIs of 291 or higher.

[Olsingledigit]

Wow. Surprised to see him go. They'll probably finish last next year in the Big East. Their nonconference schedule is abysmal. Probably their worst ever. It was released today and 7 of their 9 home games are against teams who last year had RPIs of 291 or higher.
Not good for other BE team RPIs especially if you lose to them.

[XU '11]

Not good for other BE team RPIs especially if you lose to them.

Not true. It's much better for X that DePaul has a decent record themselves than have a decent SOS. And with DePaul, you obviously won't have both.

[THRILLHOUSE]

2 Big East players, so I'll put this here. I can't stop watching this clip of Kris Dunn embarassing Jakarr Sampson in the summer league:


https://vine.co/v/5WhWPjw0vJh

[sirthought]

2 Big East players, so I'll put this here. I can't stop watching this clip of Kris Dunn embarassing Jakarr Sampson in the summer league:


https://vine.co/v/5WhWPjw0vJh

Pretty sweet move. Too bad he missed the shot. But I'm hoping to see way more of that. Fun basketball.

[THRILLHOUSE]

Pretty sweet move. Too bad he missed the shot. But I'm hoping to see way more of that. Fun basketball.

The T'Wolves are probably a couple of years away, but that Dunn/KAT combo should be fun to watch.

[bobbiemcgee]

Rothstein on BE:

http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/big-east-offseason-storylines-villanovas-national-title-gives-league-momentum/?platform=hootsuite

[X-band '01]

I guess he's expecting St. John's to be the pleasant surprise next year that Creighton was in 2015-16. Butler and Seton Hall will both be competitive, but tough to guess.

[paulxu]

Nice to see some BE coaches on this list.
Chris Mack...comedian.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/17013753/alternative-careers-top-25-college-basketball-coaches

[GoMuskies]

I guess Chris could do standup at Wright's club. Or if it wasn't going so well, Huggy's.

[Juice]

Gergetown is almost ready to open a new athletic complex on campus that greatly improves that facilties for the basketball program
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2016/08/11/at-georgetown-athletic-center-named-after-big-john-thompson-is-open-for-business/

[xudash]

That's great news for Georgetown and for the BE.

[paulxu]

Groundhog Day?

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/17245024/the-movie-defines-top-25-college-hoops-team

[GIMMFD]

Groundhog Day?

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/17245024/the-movie-defines-top-25-college-hoops-team

Lazy reporting, just took the Bill Murray thing and ran with it. Ugh.

[X-band '01]

Not sure if this was already covered:

Tommy Hamilton IV Out at DePaul (http://www.depaulbluedemons.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/062216aaa.html)

On the other hand, former Buckeye Austin Grindstaff is transferring to DePaul.

Word now is that Tommy Hamilton IV is transferring to Texas Tech.

[bobbiemcgee]

http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2016/8/15/12399050/big-east-basketball-preview-2016-2017-villanova-georgetown-xavier

[XUMIOH12]

http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2016/8/15/12399050/big-east-basketball-preview-2016-2017-villanova-georgetown-xavier

according to that article, Villanova won the 2017 National Championship

[xu82]

according to that article, Villanova won the 2017 National Championship

Two in a row will be awesome for the BE! Hope we lose in a close one. Or maybe Nova was just the runner up....

[Section 200]

It seems that UConn may be looking to (re)join the Big East - supposedly if they get left out of the Big 12 they will find something to do with football and join us to avoid killing their basketball program in a depleted AAC. Hope it happens - I'd love to have UConn at Cintas every year. 11 teams can play round robin with 20 conference games and I think the BET would get more press with UConn on board.

Article from Connecticut:
If UCONN gets turned down by the Big 12, they will not maintain the status quo with the AAC according to his source (probably Mike Tranghese - his old friend, former BE Commissioner, UCONN Consultant). They will look to move all sports to BE and try for football only in the AAC, if not they will look to join another conference for football only. From a financial perspective they could make more money and save more money being part of the BE.

[bobbiemcgee]

Unlikely. The AAC isn't going to let them take BB out and nobody else would want them without BB. I don't see the Presidents approving a public U with Football. Plus, Football realignment is going to go on forever.

[GIMMFD]

Though if it did happen imagine the chaos at the ESPN headquarters in Connecticut. They'd literally loose their shit having to deal with the Big East in their back-yard.

[Cheesehead]

62 mil for a practice facility? Yikes.

[paulxu]

Last year the BE held what was to be the first of an ongoing program of Freshman Fundamentals, where frosh from all the schools met in NY and received advice on how to transition to college BB. Kaiser Gates went.
Haven't seen anything on it this year, which would involve Jones and Goodin.

Am also thinking Myles might have got some value from it, if it was in place back then.

[xudash]

Last year the BE held what was to be the first of an ongoing program of Freshman Fundamentals, where frosh from all the schools met in NY and received advice on how to transition to college BB. Kaiser Gates went.
Haven't seen anything on it this year, which would involve Jones and Goodin.

Am also thinking Myles might have got some value from it, if it was in place back then.

Hell, have him join them via Skype.

[bobbiemcgee]

Big East schedule release 9/13.

[X-band '01]

Edmond Sumner, JP Macura and Trevon Bluiett will be representing Xavier for Big East Media Day next week in New York.

[muskiefan82]

Maybe another player will sneak over from Jersey and make a surprise announcement......

I know, but it would be awesome.

[bobbiemcgee]

http://www.omaha.com/creighton/mens-basketball/villanova-s-national-title-buoys-creighton-and-fellow-big-east/article_fad63044-b7a9-5bbb-af79-593235da7133.html

[paulxu]

OK then.


Andy Katz
ESPN Senior Writer
Put me down as someone who is a fan of a 10-team league in basketball. True round-robin. Of the major conferences in hoops, the Big 12 and Big East have it right.

[bobbiemcgee]

4 Star Tremont Waters picks G'Town over IU, Kansas and Duke.

[muskiefan82]

This league is great.

[XUFan09]

4 Star Tremont Waters picks G'Town over IU, Kansas and Duke.
IU boards are probably fun right now.

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[XUMIOH12]

IU boards are probably fun right now.

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just imagine if they dont get wilkes either...

[bobbiemcgee]

"Ah no, this is bad. Paul Scruggs just committed to Xavier. If we lose out on Waters we will be stuck fielding a mid-major talent as our starting PG and will be destined for 4th-7th place B1G finishes and 1st round tournament exits for the next 4 years." FIRE TOM CREAN!

- Crimson Quarry

[DoubleD86]

just imagine if they dont get wilkes either...

My roommate is a big IU fan. He hangs out on the boards there and has basically said that if they don't get Wilkes it will be nuclear. If they end with two 3 stars and the #91 player in the class, that fan base will not be happy. Especially since they plan on losing OG and Bryant after this year.

[Xville]

4 Star Tremont Waters picks G'Town over IU, Kansas and Duke.

How gtown keeps getting recruits when it has been proven their coach doesn't have a freaking clue how to develop players is insane. Maybe louisville sent the good looking hookers over there

[bleedXblue]

How gtown keeps getting recruits when it has been proven their coach doesn't have a freaking clue how to develop players is insane. Maybe louisville sent the good looking hookers over there

LOL...no kidding JTIII is awful. Just brutal.

[MuskieXU]

How gtown keeps getting recruits when it has been proven their coach doesn't have a freaking clue how to develop players is insane. Maybe louisville sent the good looking hookers over there

I agree that JT3 deserves a lot of the criticism he gets, but people have been going way overboard with the hate based on his resume. By my count, hes had 6 players drafted to the NBA, 3 of which went top 10. Hes made the NCAA tourney 8 of 11 years at Georgetown, and was ranked in the top 10 (at some point) in 7 straight seasons. Hes had issues lately, but that doesnt mean hes not a great coach.

[Xville]

I agree that JT3 deserves a lot of the criticism he gets, but people have been going way overboard with the hate based on his resume. By my count, hes had 6 players drafted to the NBA, 3 of which went top 10. Hes made the NCAA tourney 8 of 11 years at Georgetown, and was ranked in the top 10 (at some point) in 7 straight seasons. Hes had issues lately, but that doesnt mean hes not a great coach.

Lately? Being that he hasn't gotten past the first weekend since the 05 season, I think he deserves all the criticism he gets. The guy gets a ton of talent thrown his way, and the results are very mediocre.

[xubrew]

Lately? Being that he hasn't gotten past the first weekend since the 05 season, I think he deserves all the criticism he gets. The guy gets a ton of talent thrown his way, and the results are very mediocre.

2007. They made the FF that year.

[MuskieXU]

Lately? Being that he hasn't gotten past the first weekend since the 05 season, I think he deserves all the criticism he gets. The guy gets a ton of talent thrown his way, and the results are very mediocre.

Once again, fair criticism but tourney success isn't everything. A lot of people said Jay Wright was unsuccessful in March up until last year. A lot of people thought CM should be fired up until February of 2015. All it takes is one run to quiet the critics.

[Muskie]

Once again, fair criticism but tourney success isn't everything. A lot of people said Jay Wright was unsuccessful in March up until last year. A lot of people thought CM should be fired up until February of 2015. All it takes is one run to quiet the critics.

I get what you're saying, but if John Thompson, III was John Smith or John Brown instead; he wouldn't still be the Georgetown Coach.

[MuskieXU]

I get what you're saying, but if John Thompson, III was John Smith or John Brown instead; he wouldn't still be the Georgetown Coach.

Dont know if I agree. He finished 22nd in Kenpom and won a game in the Tournament in 2015. His job is unquestionably safer due to his last name, but in 12 years hes missed the tourney 4 times (never finishing below 62nd in Kenpom,) had one decent year, and had 6 Top 25 finishes (Kenpom.) Heck, he took Princeton to the tournament 2 of the 3 years he was there. Thats the resume of a great coach. If he continues to under perform in March, he probably should be on the hot seat but for now his regular season performance history is too good to risk firing him over a few let downs in a one and done tourney. Just one mans opinion though, and many would disagree.

On another note, if they ever do fire him, how good of a replacement would Tommy Amaker be?

[GoMuskies]

if they ever do fire him, how good of a replacement would Tommy Amaker be?

We'll never know, because Georgetown wouldn't in a million years hire that no talent assclown.

[bobbiemcgee]

http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/projecting-win-totals-for-every-big-east-team-xavier-will-be-on-novas-heels/

[paulxu]

examining conference strength and imbalance (which isn't an issue in the round-robin Big East and Big Ten)

Huh?

[XUMIOH12]

Huh?

must have meant Big12, but probably got confused since they have 10 teams....and big10 has 14

[bobbiemcgee]

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=18121835

[paulxu]

Last week Seton Hall in the bracketology at #9 with a green arrow up.

This week? Gone completely off the radar.

[XGeN]

Happy to see all the BE teams doing well. Creighton is alot scarier than I imagined at the beginning of the year.

[Emp]

Ive looked and looked but cant find the GTown 2 for 1 offer for new years eve day. Help please!

[profson]

Ive looked and looked but cant find the GTown 2 for 1 offer for new years eve day. Help please!

I picked up 10 today. This way

- go to Ticketmaster site
- change favored location to Washington area
- click Deals
- click 2 for 1, then all 2 for 1
- scroll to Dec 31

When you choose the game, then fill in the code at the top (TMN241) which then shows the available seat locations and redone prices. Took me a while to figure out -- not intuitive

[American X]

Jerry Palm has 7 Big East teams in his updated Bracketology (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology):

1 Villanova
3 Butler
3 Creighton
6 Xavier
9 Seton Hall
10 Providence
11 Georgetown

[X-band '01]

He also has Minnesota as a 5 for some bizarre reason.

[X-band '01]

St. John's is leading Syracuse 66-48 with 10 minutes to play. On the road.

I repeat, this is not a drill.

[XMuskieFTW]

Johnnies up 33. Wtf is happening.

[X-band '01]

Naturally, I spoke too soon about the Johnnies.

It's now a 33-point caning in the Carrier Dome. I hope the Orange enjoy Christmas Day practice.

[GoMuskies]

Syrcause is awful. Whoever put them on their top 25 ballot at the beginning of the year should lose voting privileges.

[scoscox]

Why was Jim Boeheim so high on his team early in the year? How are you that far off?

[bobbiemcgee]

8 0f 10 BE teams in NCAA RPI top 100.

[Masterofreality]

8 0f 10 BE teams in NCAA RPI top 100.

"The Big East is dead". - ESPN

[GoMuskies]

Seton Hall trying to avoid pulling a Providence. Could be a bad day.

[paulxu]

Yikes, Providence.

[American X]

CBS Sports: Give Big East Its Proper Due (http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/why-is-no-one-talking-about-the-big-east-and-its-four-legit-final-four-teams/)

Why is no one talking about the Big East and its four legit Final Four teams?

A lot more than Villanova, the league is every bit as strong as the ACC, if not stronger

Conference play has arrived in college basketball.

Are you aware that no league is as good at the top as the Big East? It's true.

Doubt it? I'll convert you in a minute here.

[paulxu]

CBS Sports: Give Big East Its Proper Due (http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/why-is-no-one-talking-about-the-big-east-and-its-four-legit-final-four-teams/)

Why is no one talking about the Big East and its four legit Final Four teams?

Because for a long time ESPN didn't care, and were not/are not happy with FS challenge.

[American X]

Is DePaul going to pull this garbage all conference season? They are rude enough just existing, but now actually trying to knock off the top Big East teams? It is bad enough when the monument to mediocrity Georgetown does it, but outright abominable when the the short, fat red-headed stepchild does it.

I thought we ditched the spoilers back in the A-10. DePaul should at least have the decency to lay down against the teams actually attempting to assemble NCAA tournaments resumes.

[muskiefan82]

I am hopeful this had more to do with Villanova seeing DePaul on the jersey than with DePaul having any real ability to win this game.

[Lloyd Braun]

Butler-St Johns is quite a game! Wtf!

[Lloyd Braun]

This league.....

[bleedXblue]

Butler-St Johns is quite a game! Wtf!

St Johns has some good young players. They are improving........

[X-band '01]

Butler went into cruise control too early in this one. I knew the Johnnies would get at least one notable scalp at home this year.

[bjf123]

Hell of an upset. Big East will be tough this year.


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[Lloyd Braun]

St Johns has some good young players. They are improving........

Yea... and they also lost to Delaware State, who has yet to win any other game on their schedule.

[X-band '01]

Yea... and they also lost to Delaware State, who has yet to win any other game on their schedule.

Yes, that was bad. They also blasted Syracuse by 33 on the road.

[bleedXblue]

Yea... and they also lost to Delaware State, who has yet to win any other game on their schedule.

I think they will be up and down all year, but make no mistake that they have a few young frosh who are very talented

[paulxu]

I hope we're paying attention on Saturday.

[X-band '01]

NBCSports.com - St. John's Commit Arrested for Robbing Drugstore (https://t.co/TssHzxTZb0)

Some Butler fans immediately were quick to comment that Xavier continues to recruit thugs. Then someone whispered in their ear and are now calling St. John's thugs and gangsters instead.

[BandAid]

NBCSports.com - St. John's Commit Arrested for Robbing Drugstore (https://t.co/TssHzxTZb0)

Some Butler fans immediately were quick to comment that Xavier continues to recruit thugs. Then someone whispered in their ear and are now calling St. John's thugs and gangsters instead.

Sounds like poor behavior is a trend with this fellow.

[XUMIOH12]

looks like he was booted out of the school that Big Kent is now at

[XUMIOH12]

Sounds like poor behavior is a trend with this fellow.

I'm sure he was taking the money so that he could fix his broken window and update his tags.....

[Juice]

NBCSports.com - St. John's Commit Arrested for Robbing Drugstore (https://t.co/TssHzxTZb0)

Some Butler fans immediately were quick to comment that Xavier continues to recruit thugs. Then someone whispered in their ear and are now calling St. John's thugs and gangsters instead.

I hate that headline. He didn't commit a robbery or is he being accused of such. It's a theft. He didn't use force or threaten force against anyone. The kid is obviously a dumb ass and deserves to be punished for this but it's not a robbery.

[LA Muskie]

I hate that headline. He didn't commit a robbery or is he being accused of such. It's a theft. He didn't use force or threaten force against anyone. The kid is obviously a dumb ass and deserves to be punished for this but it's not a robbery.

Correct. From a legal perspective, no violence or threat of violence = larceny/theft. But editors get stuff like this wrong all the time.


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[American X]

College basketball's purest league: the Big East's death-defying renaissance (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2017/jan/10/college-basketball-big-east-conference-renaissance?CMP=share_btn_tw)

Gutted beyond recognition and left for dead four years ago, the Big East is, improbably, back among college basketball’s best conferences


The Big East’s fade to mediocrity was all but a foregone conclusion when realignment left the once-powerful conference gutted beyond recognition four years ago.

Name-brand programs like Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Connecticut, Louisville and West Virginia had bolted to chase the football dollars of the power conferences, leaving Villanova, Georgetown, St John’s, Seton Hall, Marquette, DePaul and Providence to pick up the pieces.

The so-called Catholic 7 did well to fill out their membership with Butler, Creighton and Xavier, a trio of mid-major powers who have traditionally punched above their weight. They managed to retain the Big East name and logo and the rights to host their conference tournament at Madison Square Garden, where it had first grown from a modest collective of northeastern parochial schools in the 1970s to one of college basketball’s most iconic brands.

But the sense of atrophy was undeniable. A new television contract took the league’s games off ESPN, who all but wrote the league’s epitaph into its 30 for 30 documentary series. What hope did a dectet of private schools without the benefit of revenues generated by major football programs have in big-time college athletics today?

Turns out plenty. The sense of inferiority that was symbolically shed when the league sent half its teams to last year’s NCAA tournament – where Kris Jenkins’ buzzer-beater lifted Villanova to the national championship in April – has surely been put to rest by now. When Monday’s rankings were released, no conference had more schools in the top 15 than the Big East’s four.

[X-band '01]

Butler is getting spayed and neutered by Marquette today. We haven't seen Marquette play this well since their season opener against Vandy.

I can only hope Xavier doesn't have a similar hangover this afternoon.

[GoMuskies]

Butler is getting spayed and neutered by Marquette today.

Bob Barker must be so pleased.

[Xville]

Butler is getting spayed and neutered by Marquette today. We haven't seen Marquette play this well since their season opener against Vandy.

I can only hope Xavier doesn't have a similar hangover this afternoon.

Have not been watching but does butler look like they have tired legs or is marquette just playing really well?

[X-band '01]

It was a slight edge to Marquette for the first 16 minutes, but then Hauser/Rowsey broke it open with a bunch of 3s in the final 4 minutes.

[GoMuskies]

Well, Marquette did have a very challenging game against DePaul to play on Saturday, so they should both be equally tired.

(note sarcasm font)

[X-band '01]

This game just did a complete 180 in 12 minutes.

[paulxu]

I admit to not understanding all the math behind the ranking systems, but I'm glad the BE is number 3 here.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18518019/conference-power-rankings-according-bpi

[Ohionite_X]

Providence just landed Makai Ashton-Langford for this upcoming season. One of the best PG prospects in the country who decommitted from UConn a few weeks ago. Friars are looking like a top 20 team next season.

[GoMuskies]

Providence just landed Makai Ashton-Langford for this upcoming season. One of the best PG prospects in the country who decommitted from UConn a few weeks ago. Friars are looking like a top 20 team next season.

What a kick in the nuts that is for UConn.

[X-Fan]

What a kick in the nuts that is for UConn.

Would we call that the AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC effect? ;-)

[Ohionite_X]

Obviously a big "What-If" but if Tremont Waters recommits to Georgetown and Trevon Duval picks Seton Hall then this conference will be absolutely loaded with the countries best young PG's. Really only Depaul and Creighton wouldn't have a legit star PG on the roster.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Obviously a big "What-If" but if Tremont Waters recommits to Georgetown and Trevon Duval picks Seton Hall then this conference will be absolutely loaded with the countries best young PG's. Really only Depaul and Creighton wouldn't have a legit star PG on the roster.

Kaleb Joseph transferred to Creighton and will be eligible next season.

[Ohionite_X]

Kaleb Joseph transferred to Creighton and will be eligible next season.

He was a highly regarded recruit but he had two pretty underwhelming years at Syracuse. In fact, his Sophomore year was dramatically worse than his freshman year to the extent that he barely even played. Creighton fans don't even seem to think he'll start. Maybe he turns it around but I'd venture to guess that Creighton will struggle at PG all season unless they somehow land Tremont Waters who they've recently begun to recruit.

[AviatorX]

Obviously a big "What-If" but if Tremont Waters recommits to Georgetown and Trevon Duval picks Seton Hall then this conference will be absolutely loaded with the countries best young PG's. Really only Depaul and Creighton wouldn't have a legit star PG on the roster.

I don't think there's a chance Waters ends up at GTown. That recruitment is an absolute mess with his dad running the show. Although maybe GTown can relate to that in a way.

[mistabeecee41]

Crystal Ball is trending towards WKU for Waters.
For Duval, Duke is the favorite and he starts his official visit today.

I'd be shocked if either end up in the BE.

[GoMuskies]

Is WKU going to be in the Final Four next year? Jesus, if Stansbury can coach at all, they should murder everyone in C-USA not named Middle Tennessee.

[AviatorX]

Ed Waters, Tremont's dad, is really something. When he committed to GTown the outside observer would have had a tough time deciding if the press conference was about Tremont or Ed.

Stansbury definitely has the highest salary cap in CUSA, that's for sure.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Is WKU going to be in the Final Four next year? Jesus, if Stansbury can coach at all, they should murder everyone in C-USA not named Middle Tennessee.

MTSU graduated a few of those studs that won them those tournament games. Did Shammond Williams head to G'town to be an assistant? Didn't someone mention that he was the godfather of that McDonald's guy they got?

[xubrew]

Is WKU going to be in the Final Four next year? Jesus, if Stansbury can coach at all, they should murder everyone in C-USA not named Middle Tennessee.

I think MTSU lost their three best players.

[XUMIOH12]

I think MTSU lost their three best players.

Giddy Potts should be back. He was a junior last season. But they did lose Williams and Upshaw. Nobody else on their roster did a whole lot, outside of those three.

[XMuskieFTW]

How about Depaul making a run at 5 star mcdonalds all american Brian Bowen? Depaul just hired his high school coach as an assistant yesterday and are now trying to hire his AAU coach as another assistant. Would be wild if he landed there.

[waggy]

How does that work, do you fire all the other assistants?

[XUMIOH12]

How about Depaul making a run at 5 star mcdonalds all american Brian Bowen? Depaul just hired his high school coach as an assistant yesterday and are now trying to hire his AAU coach as another assistant. Would be wild if he landed there.

they were already in the mix for him, but it definitely seems like this would help their case. Creighton is also in the mix for him, along with Arizona and Michigan St. Although i'm not sure he'll ever decide to commit anywhere, it seems like each month since november or december he says he will make his decision and then it never happens haha

[XUMIOH12]

How about Depaul making a run at 5 star mcdonalds all american Brian Bowen? Depaul just hired his high school coach as an assistant yesterday and are now trying to hire his AAU coach as another assistant. Would be wild if he landed there.

and to be fair, it might not just be to attract Brian Bowen, hiring the LaLumiere and Meanstreets coaches gives DePaul pretty good connections to a lot of great players.

[XUFan09]

How does that work, do you fire all the other assistants?
I think they're losing one assistant and Billy Garrett, Sr., could be seeing the door. Dunno.

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[Mrs. Garrett]

The rumor was that Garrett Sr was no longer an assistant, but had been offered the Director of Basketball Operations position. Their former DOB just accepted an assistant position at Cleveland St.

Everyone in Chicago who follows DePaul knew that Garrett's job was basically related to his son going to DePaul. The guy survived 3 coaching regimes and did nothing just because his son had some talent.

[XMuskieFTW]

Depaul got a grad transfer center from Northern Illinois who averaged 14.4 and 8.4 last year and just got a commitment from 5 star Tyger Campbell who will reclassify to 2018. Could Depaul actually be relevant again in a few years?

[xu82]

Depaul got a grad transfer center from Northern Illinois who averaged 14.4 and 8.4 last year and just got a commitment from 5 star Tyger Campbell who will reclassify to 2018. Could Depaul actually be relevant again in a few years?

Ummmm....that just doesn't sound right.

[94GRAD]

Ummmm....that just doesn't sound right.

http://www.scout.com/college/basketball/recruiting/story/1776230-tyger-campbell-to-depaul-will-reclassify

[JTG]

Typical Chicago sleaze move, hire the kids coach in hopes of getting the kid. They previously hired Garrett's Dad, so that Garrett would go there. And I believe I read now that Garrett is gone Dad has followed.

[Muskie]

Correct. Garrett Sr is now gone.

[XMuskieFTW]

Typical Chicago sleaze move, hire the kids coach in hopes of getting the kid. They previously hired Garrett's Dad, so that Garrett would go there. And I believe I read now that Garrett is gone Dad has followed.

To be fair, I think they're getting a much higher quality coach in Heirman than BG ever was. I have less of a problem with schools hiring the high school coach in hopes of recruits than hiring the dad to guarentee a recruit(s).

[JTG]

Reading the kid's quotes you get the idea he doesn't know Dave Laeto from Super Dave Osborne. He just knows his prep school coach will be there.

[XUMIOH12]

and to be fair, it might not just be to attract Brian Bowen, hiring the LaLumiere and Meanstreets coaches gives DePaul pretty good connections to a lot of great players.

looks like it only took a week, and.....i called it haha

[XUMIOH12]

To be fair, I think they're getting a much higher quality coach in Heirman than BG ever was. I have less of a problem with schools hiring the high school coach in hopes of recruits than hiring the dad to guarentee a recruit(s).

yeah, this guy is probably a better coach, and he should be a better recruiter, as Garrett's dad was pretty much just to get one player.

[Mrs. Garrett]

yeah, this guy is probably a better coach, and he should be a better recruiter, as Garrett's dad was pretty much just to get one player.

The theory was the Garrett's dad would be a pipeline to the Mac Irvin Fire AAU program. Problem was the only Fire players that DePaul could land were ones that did not belong in the Big East.

People around Chicago knew the La Lumiere coach was headed to DePaul for the past 3 months. It was just the announcement that was delayed.

[ammtd34]

I wish Super Dave Osborne coached DePaul.

[bobbiemcgee]

4 years since the "official" Big East celebration. Wow, what a ride so far......

[AviatorX]

Georgetown backing out of the PK80 tournament and being replaced by DePaul.

It's almost like Georgetown wants to suck. Apparently they only have ONE non-conference game scheduled as of August 1st. That is beyond unbelievable.

[xu82]

Georgetown backing out of the PK80 tournament and being replaced by DePaul.

It's almost like Georgetown wants to suck. Apparently they only have ONE non-conference game scheduled as of August 1st. That is beyond unbelievable.

The kind of thing a qualified, veteran coach likes to do..... Oh, wait...

[GIMMFD]

Georgetown backing out of the PK80 tournament and being replaced by DePaul.

It's almost like Georgetown wants to suck. Apparently they only have ONE non-conference game scheduled as of August 1st. That is beyond unbelievable.

How is this possible, aren't there like deadlines that need to be met or something???

[Perma Fro]

Maybe by backing out of the PK80 game, the coach is wants to create a schedule similar in substance to the first 9 non-cons from his 83-84 season:

@ Hawaii-Hilo
@ Hawaii-Hilo
Morgan State
Saint Francis
Saint Leo
@ DePaul
South Carolina State
American
Western Kentucky

[MuskieXU]

Maybe by backing out of the PK80 game, the coach is wants to create a schedule similar in substance to the first 9 non-cons from his 83-84 season:

@ Hawaii-Hilo
@ Hawaii-Hilo
Morgan State
Saint Francis
Saint Leo
@ DePaul
South Carolina State
American
Western Kentucky

In all honesty, they probably do wanna line the schedule with easy games to pad Ewings first year record. If you can get past how weak dropping out makes you look, its probably better for Ewing to go .500 against garbage competition than 8-24 against decent competition.

[BMoreX]

What a weak look.

[GoMuskies]

Maybe by backing out of the PK80 game, the coach is wants to create a schedule similar in substance to the first 9 non-cons from his 83-84 season:

@ Hawaii-Hilo
@ Hawaii-Hilo
Morgan State
Saint Francis
Saint Leo
@ DePaul
South Carolina State
American
Western Kentucky

In fairness (LOL), DePaul was a powerhouse back then. They went 27-3 that season. After they beat #3 Georgetown in that matchup, the Blue Demons jumped to #4 in the polls.

Georgetown also went on the road that year and played a pretty damned good UNLV team.

[Muskie]

The people on the GTown Board are pissed.

[bleedXblue]

The people on the GTown Board are pissed.

G'town is quickly reminding me of St Johns

Living way too far into the past

They should have moved on from III 2 years ago. Now they are having to deal with all of the consequences.......as well as having a guy now at the helm with no D1 head coaching experience.

Total cluster.......good luck to them....I think

[AviatorX]

G'town is quickly reminding me of St Johns

Living way too far into the past

They should have moved on from III 2 years ago. Now they are having to deal with all of the consequences.......as well as having a guy now at the helm with no D1 head coaching experience.

Total cluster.......good luck to them....I think

Agreed. They're like St. Johns minus the promising talent at this point.

[GIMMFD]

They're just taking a huge step backwards, I mean at least the G'Town teams when we first joined the league had talent, DRS, Copeland, etc. These days it seems like G'Town aren't making many waves in terms of recruiting, or development on the court. It's just painful to watch a program implode like this from numerous stupid decisions.

[xudash]

On the one hand, you wonder how motivated they are at the administrative level, given their stature and endowment. Yet thinking that becoming Johns Hopkins, the U of Chicago or an Ivy is A way to go isn't all that swift, in my opinion. Right or wrong, a successful athletic program is a boon for a well run school.

On the other hand, I suspect they still care, but are too locked into the Thompson legacy. The craziest twist with that one is in wondering how much JTII was responsible for the private funding that ended up building their new athletic complex. The Hoyas take a major step forward on the facilities front, but are forced to take multiple steps backward, because they allow the old man too much influence over the program.

[casualfan]

That is a chickensh*t move.

Especially if you fancy yourself the kind of program georgetown does.

[THRILLHOUSE]

G'Town fans were the biggest crybabies when the Big East basketball schools separated from the football schools. Acted like they were too good for what resulted after alignment. So I'm enjoying their current misery.

[JTG]

In a way, Gtown is like the football team that was playing for a conference title, loses and is sent to a lesser bowl game. Their heart isn't in it, and they get their ass kicked. You can either be like Villanova and kick everyone's ass, or you can be Georgetwn and just give up.

[bobbiemcgee]

https://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2017/8/3/16089834/big-east-to-premiere-shootaround-august-10th-john-fanta-host-mens-college-basketball-weekly-show

[paulxu]

X: Xavier deserves more love
Lost in the conversations about Kentucky, Duke, Louisville, North Carolina and others this offseason was the abundance of talent returning for Chris Mack. Xavier, an Elite Eight team last season, boasts Trevon Bluiett, a likely preseason All-American, J.P. Macura, a strong recruiting class and UW-Green Bay transfer Kerem Kanter.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/20145440/complete-guide-college-basketball-offseason-far

[BandAid]

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/20145440/complete-guide-college-basketball-offseason-far

As nice as that write-up is, I'm pretty sure we own the letter "X" in these types of articles.

[GIMMFD]

As nice as that write-up is, I'm pretty sure we own the letter "X" in these types of articles.

How dare you count out Xenon International School of Hair Design???

[Muskie]

http://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2017/08/01/georgetown-drops-out-of-loaded-pk80-tournament/

[paulxu]

Maybe we can get back in. I thought we were in that thing at one point

[GIMMFD]

Maybe we can get back in. I thought we were in that thing at one point

Isn't it a little late for that? I feel like we'd have to break some contracts to make that happen, though it would be AWESOME to be playing in that tournament strictly for brand recognition around the country. We're important, but it would still do wonders for us.


EDIT: Nevermind, it says that DePaul slid into their place for the tournament in the article.

[American X]

Enquirer - Is the Big East too tough for its own good? (https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/xavier/2018/01/04/big-east-too-tough-its-own-good/998747001/)

[Muskie]

Enquirer - Is the Big East too tough for its own good? (https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/xavier/2018/01/04/big-east-too-tough-its-own-good/998747001/)

Would they have written this article if UC was in in the Big East ?

[GoMuskies]

Enquirer - Is the Big East too tough for its own good? (https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/xavier/2018/01/04/big-east-too-tough-its-own-good/998747001/)

The companion article, "Is the AAC too tough for its own good?" is only one word long.

[GoMuskies]

Also, that article was not well-written.

[XUFan09]

So, Michigan State was severely taxed by their championship campaign, but Ohio State wasn't when they played a similar conference schedule and the same number of conference tournament games? Hmm.

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[X-band '01]

I get a feeling Big 12 columnists may be thinking along thinner lines. Baylor is shaping up to be a whipping boy in that league this year.

[X-band '01]

Deja vu all over again for Creighton - Martin Krempelj out for the year with a torn ACL he suffered in their win against Seton Hall last night.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Deja vu all over again for Creighton - Martin Krempelj out for the year with a torn ACL he suffered in their win against Seton Hall last night.

That guy was playing well for them. This hurts them.


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[whopper]

He did little against us for some reason but I have seen him play well against seton hall, baylor and providence. Too bad for him as I liked his quick, skilled non physical game

[GoMuskies]

NY Post on why Chris Mullin sucks. Or something like that.

https://nypost.com/2018/01/22/the-weaknesses-pushing-chris-mullin-further-toward-hot-seat/

[murray87]

NY Post on why Chris Mullin sucks. Or something like that.

https://nypost.com/2018/01/22/the-weaknesses-pushing-chris-mullin-further-toward-hot-seat/

Clicked on this story within the Mullin article. What a mess this kid's life is:
https://nypost.com/2017/01/18/st-johns-drops-super-recruit-zach-brown-after-robbery-busts/

[X-band '01]

Villanova now reporting that Phil Booth is out indefinitely with a broken bone in his hand.

[Cheesehead]

Clicked on this story within the Mullin article. What a mess this kid's life is:
https://nypost.com/2017/01/18/st-johns-drops-super-recruit-zach-brown-after-robbery-busts/

Shows what being born into a crappy situation can do to a kid. No making excuses for stealing but he had one strike against him from the get go. What a huge waste of talent.

[paulxu]

There may not be anyone in the arena tonight for the Hoya game. It looked like they got some students to sit behind the announcers so there would not be too many empty seats.

[bleedXblue]

Villanova now reporting that Phil Booth is out indefinitely with a broken bone in his hand.

* out for the remainder of the year

[GoMuskies]

I wish Strus was on our team.

Did I just say that about a DePaul player?!?

[GoMuskies]

But why is DePaul wearing their practice pinnies in an actual game?

[Grizzx12]

* out for the remainder of the year

That sucks for the league in my opinion. Would much rather face and beat a full health Nova in a few weeks and I'm still enjoying the whole pull for other BE teams come tourney time experience since joining the league. Definitely hurts Nova big time.

[Grizzx12]

But why is DePaul wearing their practice pinnies in an actual game?

I can't read the name or numbers on those things. Can it be confirmed that is actually Eli Cain and not Kobe with some of these shots he's getting to fall?

[paulxu]

There are 7 BE teams whose RPI's are better than 50.

[bjf123]

There are 7 BE teams whose RPI's are better than 50.

It’s great to be in this conference!


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[bobbiemcgee]

Villanova now reporting that Phil Booth is out indefinitely with a broken bone in his hand.

Not an "Ed" factor but will definitely hurt as 'Nova doesn't have a lot of depth.

[American X]

Villanova now reporting that Phil Booth is out indefinitely with a broken bone in his hand.


* out for the remainder of the year


That sucks for the league in my opinion. Would much rather face and beat a full health Nova in a few weeks and I'm still enjoying the whole pull for other BE teams come tourney time experience since joining the league. Definitely hurts Nova big time.


There are 7 BE teams whose RPI's are better than 50.


It’s great to be in this conference!


Recall, the Big East got seven teams in the tournament last year in large part due to the Xavier February Tour of Shame providing Marquette, Providence and Seton Hall with quality wins and getting them over .500 in conference.

A wounded Villanova dropping a few games they might not otherwise could serve a similar purpose.

[Masterofreality]

Recall, the Big East got seven teams in the tournament last year in large part due to the Xavier February Tour of Shame providing Marquette, Providence and Seton Hall with quality wins and getting them over .500 in conference.

A wounded Villanova dropping a few games they might not otherwise could serve a similar purpose.

Conspiracy Theorist.

[UCGRAD4X]

Was it his off hand? I say give him a month, tape the damn thing up and run him out there. Limited time at first but work up to NCAA.

[American X]

NYT - Big East Puts Basketball on a Pedestal, and Likes How It Looks (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/10/sports/ncaabasketball/big-east-tournament-villanova-providence.html)

[xu82]

NYT - Big East Puts Basketball on a Pedestal, and Likes How It Looks (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/10/sports/ncaabasketball/big-east-tournament-villanova-providence.html)

Nice find! Thanks.

[D-West & PO-Z]

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22860872/big-east-replace-1-done-2-none

Big East recommending two or none rule for high school players among other things.