Flyer Fans

[JTG]

I know I'll probably get blasted for this, but I feel sorry for some Flyer fans today. One of my best friends from high school went to UD. He's a nice guy, we have even gone to X UD games together. Both in Cincy and in Dayton. When the games over we are still friends. Sure we rub it in a little with each other, depending on who one. I feel for him today. Not all UD fans are aholes. And for those people I feel sorry. For most of those grey haired old farts...See Ya.

[GuyFawkes38]

So the big question: How strongly should X work to block UD's membership in the Big East?

I have conflicting emotions on this. It would hurt UD more than it would benefit X to be excluded from the Big East. But it would help us! It would help us not only with BBALL recruiting over UD, but much more importantly, attracting students. The exposure and prestige of the Big East would give X an advantage over UD.

But it would be a cruel move...

[Get Real]

Doubtful Xavier will have any say in the matter. Fox will have significant input into the selection as it is the rain maker. TV markets are paramount to cable networks-obviously- thus St. Louis, I believe, is a given. After that, I see an open field for the last spot in the league. Probably will know by this time next year. Could even be a shock; who knows.

[JTG]

My problem with UD is what they did to us when they left for the Great Midwest. They just took off, there was no regret on their part. And we were left in the MCC. Come to think of it, so did Marquette and SLU. College sports is really cutthroat.

[BlueGuy]

I could seriously give a sh!t if we ever played them again. I realize its a "rivalry" and all... But I can't stand the fan base. If we never played them again, I would be very happy.

[Pablo's Brother]

Sweep the leg!

[nuts4xu]

I wanted to interrupt this thread for a breaking news story....

...Dayton still sucks.

F**k them!!

[boozehound]

Keep them out. If for nothing else, for recruiting purposes.

[LA Muskie]

So the big question: How strongly should X work to block UD's membership in the Big East?

I have conflicting emotions on this. It would hurt UD more than it would benefit X to be excluded from the Big East. But it would help us! It would help us not only with BBALL recruiting over UD, but much more importantly, attracting students. The exposure and prestige of the Big East would give X an advantage over UD.

But it would be a cruel move...

We are not moving to block them. But we are not going out of our way to advocate for them either. Everyone knows we have no interest in them. And no one else does either.

[GuyFawkes38]

Doubtful Xavier will have any say in the matter. Fox will have significant input into the selection as it is the rain maker. TV markets are paramount to cable networks-obviously- thus St. Louis, I believe, is a given. After that, I see an open field for the last spot in the league. Probably will know by this time next year. Could even be a shock; who knows.

No doubt. I'm not sure how much influence we will have. I really do believe that blocks have occurred in the past. For example, Villanova wanted no part of Temple in the Big East until it became certain that the bball schools would be bolting. Of course, Richmond could not prevent VCU from entering the A10. I'm not sure where we stand on that spectrum.

[LadyMuskie]

One dayton fan can be okay by himself, although it isn't the norm. Put dayton fans together and they immediately turn into the world's biggest bunch of whining @*&holes.

I do not feel sorry for them. I do pity them because they, and their meager excuse for a basketball program, are pitiful. Who didn't see the writing on the wall when it came to realignment? It appears only dayton was behind in realizing what was perfectly obvious to everyone else. Good riddance!

[PMI]

The only thing I felt was missing from this glorious day of pride for Xavier athletics was a sympathetic reflection session on behalf of our dear friends to to the north. What a bittersweet occasion. If only the flyers could've been good enough on the court over the past 30 years to be included in all the fun...

But you know what, I'm not going to let one tragedy ruin my day.

[xu95]

If 11 and 12 aren't announced before July 1st and we have a vote in the new members, I would be REALLY surprised if Xavier voted to include Dayton. I personally think if this goes past July 1st, Dayton's chances of inclusion drop dramatically.

[LadyMuskie]

True. It would have been amazing if Sr. Rose had said "And let us pray for those less fortunate than us, specifically those people who attend a particular university in dayton so desperate to be Xavier that it had to hire Xavier's former coach's baby brother. Despite their pitiful attempts to be Xavier, they will never be Xavier, and now they know it. Please help them, Lord, to accept their place in mediocrity."

[LA Muskie]

If 11 and 12 aren't announced before July 1st and we have a vote in the new members, I would be REALLY surprised if Xavier voted to include Dayton. I personally think if this goes past July 1st, Dayton's chances of inclusion drop dramatically.

I don't think we would vote for them. We won't outwardly "block" them but we don't need to. Everyone know our opinion on the matter. They either care about that or they don't.

[West is Best]

UD is worth including if it adds SLU. Every opposing fanbase is annoying and irrational and I don't see the benefits of spite here. Xavier benefits the most from having UD in the conference: lower travel costs and more media attention due to the history between the two school.

Since Juwan Staten there's been almost no recruiting competition between the two schools. By itself I don't know that Dayton would get invited, but I think the Dayton-SLU combo is very appealing for the Big East.

[BBC 08]

We both went after Dillard.

[PM Thor]

Kiss my Ass dayton. Good riddance. Hope to never deal with your school, your program, your "city", your fans, your alums, any of them ever again, in any way. If they disappeared from the face of the Earth I would be sated. And then life on our planet would get better. dayton, you suck. Goodbye.

I HATE dayton.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygDo4-ksCs4

[PM Thor]

And with that, I wash my hands of them.

[Kahns Krazy]

TV rules. If the Dayton market is perceived to be valuable, they'll be in.

I went to the First Four last night, and we sat in front of some raging drunk Dayton fans that were hilarious. Of course, it had a lot to do with the fact that their stupid team wasn't there. It wasn't a packed house, but it out drew every one of our home games. You have to at least acknowledge that Dayton supports college basketball. We could do a lot worse with a conference mate.



Also, the St. Mary's "cheerleaders" are strippers without poles.

http://www.mid-day.com/photos/plog-content/images/sports/cheerleadersaround-the-world/saint-marys-gaels.jpg

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/WCC+Basketball+Tournament+Championship+X7yzOx14Sjo l.jpg

[waggy]

Up to this point I never saw the value of adding St. Mary's, but I think we should get to work on this pronto.

[Muskie]

Indeed.

[Masterofreality]

I posted this in the Catholic 7 thread but I fits here too.

From Adam Zagoria's Zag's Blog:

**The league expects to expand, possibly to 12 teams going forward. Both Dayton and St. Louis have been reported as potential additions. “I think we’ll eventually get to 12, pretty much I know we’ll get to 12,” Father Shanley said. “But whether or not it’s next year add two, next year we add one, we keep a slot open. We go two years. It depends on a lot of other things, so I think we’ll reevaluate in the middle of next year and see if we want to do it for the following year or not.”

Zagoria is headquartered in New York. I would suggest that you follow him since this now will be a NY centered league.

[bigdiggins]

James Madison band with zip em up signs. Solid.

[SixFig]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ1cwq8-SBQ

Had to do it. View before the Man takes it down

[LA Muskie]

I posted this in the Catholic 7 thread but I fits here too.

From Adam Zagoria's Zag's Blog:

**The league expects to expand, possibly to 12 teams going forward. Both Dayton and St. Louis have been reported as potential additions. “I think we’ll eventually get to 12, pretty much I know we’ll get to 12,” Father Shanley said. “But whether or not it’s next year add two, next year we add one, we keep a slot open. We go two years. It depends on a lot of other things, so I think we’ll reevaluate in the middle of next year and see if we want to do it for the following year or not.”

Zagoria is headquartered in New York. I would suggest that you follow him since this now will be a NY centered league.
Sounds to me like they are taking a wait-and-see approach to see how the rest of conference realignment pans out. I wonder if they are looking in the direction of the ACC in particular, to see whether any of those "sorta football" schools get left in the cold.

[Cheesehead]

I second St. Mary. Not going to turn away some eye candy.

[X-band '01]

My Holy Fuehrer, Charlotte isn't staying in the A-10, either.

[SixFig]

My Holy Fuehrer, Charlotte isn't staying in the A-10, either.


I realized that after. Oh well

[xu95]

My favorite was the one lady comforting the other lady saying "don't worry, he doesn't cough as much as Sean"

[waggy]

http://www.sprichie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Domino-Effect.jpg

[coasterville95]

I actually thought the video was going to address that. Right after he says They have Richmond, Charlotte... there is a long pause and one of the guys swallows a lump in his throat as if he was thinking "I really don't want to make him any angrier"

Yes, I watched to that detail to match the text to the action on the screen, while laughing the whole time of course.

[DC Muskie]

It seems Dayton fans are under the impression that the Big East doesn't understand the travel implications of adding Creighton and Fox will regret signing the conference to a 12 year deal. There is no way rivalries can develop, ratings will be low, and most likely Fox will demand adding an additional four teams for content.

They then jump to the obvious logical conclusion that the newly revamped A10 might be a better option for networks and could result in a better television package. I'm dead serious, there are fans who think this. MH would find comfort with these Mensa candidates.

[paulxu]

Providence, RI to Houston, TX = 1578 air miles

Providence, RI to Omaha, NE = 1259 air miles

[Masterofreality]

It seems Dayton fans are under the impression that the Big East doesn't understand the travel implications of adding Creighton and Fox will regret signing the conference to a 12 year deal. There is no way rivalries can develop, ratings will be low, and most likely Fox will demand adding an additional four teams for content.

They then jump to the obvious logical conclusion that the newly revamped A10 might be a better option for networks and could result in a better television package. I'm dead serious, there are fans who think this. MH would find comfort with these Mensa candidates.

Wow. I'm speechless.

[ammtd34]

Wow. I'm speechless.

There are some of them that still count Marquette as a rival.

[Masterofreality]

There are some of them that still count Marquette as a rival.

I don't think that the dump has played Marquette for over 5 years. Some rival.

[paulxu]

There are some of them that still count Marquette as a rival.

There are some of them that still count Xavier as a rival.

[PM Thor]

I don't think that the dump has played Marquette for over 5 years. Some rival.

I could get into not playing dayton for 5 years. That would be nice.

[ammtd34]

Someone said that Dayton needs to monitor Xavier's actions to see if we're slandering them in order to block them from the Big East. If we are, he said, Dayton shouldn't rule out litigation.

[xu95]

We slander them daily. Why should it stop now?

[DC Muskie]

Someone said that Dayton needs to monitor Xavier's actions to see if we're slandering them in order to block them from the Big East. If we are, he said, Dayton shouldn't rule out litigation.

They can start with their own...

There may have been some character issues that David West had coming out of high school that may have caused other schools to back off.

I want to fire bomb that shithole.

[Muskie]

From Holylandofhoops.com:

I think the folks here in Dayton are looking ahead.
There is talk that X will block Dayton.
Marquette is not on board.
yaddy yadda yadda...ETC ect ect ect.
Is just doesn't have a good feel.


And at this point if you have nothing else, at least have your dignity.

If I were king , and if Dayton is still getting consideration at this time or anytime in the hear future,I would tell the big east thanks but no thanks.

If the big east were serious about students atheltes, as dayton is (100 percent graduation rates) (at the top nationally ) they wouldn't have kids hoping across the country to play softball.


Creighton is, was, a mistake.
You can't pretend to care about students and then for the sake of a few dollars--ask them to travel 1000 miles for a soccer match.

Good luck but I would prefere that the U of Dayton do business with like minded U''s.
I want to be in a conference that believes in us and the things we are doing.

[ammtd34]

If the big east were serious about students atheltes, as dayton is (100 percent graduation rates) (at the top nationally ) they wouldn't have kids hoping across the country to play softball.


Creighton is, was, a mistake.
You can't pretend to care about students and then for the sake of a few dollars--ask them to travel 1000 miles for a soccer match.



Says someone from the fan base upset that they turned down the CBI. I guess only non-revenue sport student-athletes need cared about. Basketball plays for fans' enjoyment.

[GoMuskies]

Someone said that Dayton needs to monitor Xavier's actions to see if we're slandering them in order to block them from the Big East. If we are, he said, Dayton shouldn't rule out litigation.

Truth is an absolute defense to slander claims.

[Juice]

From Holylandofhoops.com:

I think the folks here in Dayton are looking ahead.
There is talk that X will block Dayton.
Marquette is not on board.
yaddy yadda yadda...ETC ect ect ect.
Is just doesn't have a good feel.


And at this point if you have nothing else, at least have your dignity.

If I were king , and if Dayton is still getting consideration at this time or anytime in the hear future,I would tell the big east thanks but no thanks.

If the big east were serious about students atheltes, as dayton is (100 percent graduation rates) (at the top nationally ) they wouldn't have kids hoping across the country to play softball.


Creighton is, was, a mistake.
You can't pretend to care about students and then for the sake of a few dollars--ask them to travel 1000 miles for a soccer match.

Good luck but I would prefere that the U of Dayton do business with like minded U''s.
I want to be in a conference that believes in us and the things we are doing.

That whole post is magnificent

[LadyMuskie]

From Holylandofhoops.com:

I think the folks here in Dayton are looking ahead.
There is talk that X will block Dayton.
Marquette is not on board.
yaddy yadda yadda...ETC ect ect ect.
Is just doesn't have a good feel.


And at this point if you have nothing else, at least have your dignity.

If I were king , and if Dayton is still getting consideration at this time or anytime in the hear future,I would tell the big east thanks but no thanks.

If the big east were serious about students atheltes, as dayton is (100 percent graduation rates) (at the top nationally ) they wouldn't have kids hoping across the country to play softball.


Creighton is, was, a mistake.
You can't pretend to care about students and then for the sake of a few dollars--ask them to travel 1000 miles for a soccer match.

Good luck but I would prefere that the U of Dayton do business with like minded U''s.
I want to be in a conference that believes in us and the things we are doing.

I stand with this U of Dayton fan. I hate it when kids have to hope across the country to play softball. And who knows? They might then have to wish a walk after hoping across the country.

I'm so glad that this U of Dayton fan is going to stand with those other U"s (whomever that might be!). Maybe once they stand with the U"s they can also find some W"s for the men's basketball team.

[paulxu]

The Dayton fan base has become an absolute joke.
The A10 board, which use to be a good time with a lot of good natured ribbing back and forth, has degenerated into a little children's playground.
Muddy and his friends went crying to the moderators, and now even a simple post about team comparisons gets wiped out by the moderators.

It has seriously gone back to grade school, and other moderators have followed along.
God knows what would happen if Snipe ever came back and fired them up. They might all need counseling.

In combination with them having their own closed message board (the only one I know if in college basketball) they have set the gold standard for a pouty, little baby fan base. Even UC guys will stand there and slug it out. Dayton fans run off and hide behind a moderator's skirt because their precious little feelings might get hurt.

[GoMuskies]

Why are you still going to the A-10 board?

[paulxu]

Why are you still going to the A-10 board?

Daughter graduated from Richmond, went to a lot of games there, and will continue to follow them next year.
There are a couple of really good, knowledgeable posters about basketball and basketball related topics.
But they have turned it into a Dayton playground. When you close a smack thread you know you are in trouble.
Also I wish the BE had utilized that site instead of Holyland to get a BE board going. Holyland is very hard to work with as a forum.

[waggy]

There were some quality posters on the A10 board. But some Dayton guys turned that place into a shithole a long time ago. It might be worse now, who knows, but it's nothing new imo. And I say that without having gone there in a while.

[Milhouse]

It is pretty funny how obsessed UD is with us. How we are now their measuring stick/model for how to get in the BE.

Pathetic.

[ammtd34]

Here's a funny one.


Don't know which 2, but I think we get 2 of the 4 kids.

This is about an article in the DDN this morning about AJ Harris, Kyle Ahrens, Nate Fowler, and Luke Kennard.

[Milhouse]

Not quite as funny as the "UD in the Big East in 2014" Thread haha.