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[smileyy]

In Mack's new contract there is a one time bonus payment (grossed up) for him to pay off the buyout with Xavier.

That's pretty typical.

[Steve A]

https://twitter.com/dontarius_james/status/980170518988017664

[BandAid]

https://twitter.com/dontarius_james/status/980170518988017664

That is very positive. Now, let’s see if he can hang on to Kennedy (a Murray recruit)

[Steve A]

That is very positive. Now, let’s see if he can hang on to Kennedy (a Murray recruit)

He retweeted the post about Steele being hired. That is a positive sign.

[whopper]

nice to see Tre tweeting congrats to stee.e. I think he has been down and a little disgruntled after the FSU game. It was a great 4 years and as dissapointed as we are we have had a great run. Watching VIllanova tonight enhances our record as we beat Creighton, St John, Butler (twice) and Prov(once) who beat Villanova. I watched Alcindor over DOn May and every final four since and this Villanova team is up there with the greatest teams I have ever seen. Their defense is top notch and the shooting incredible

[DexterBailey84]

I think he has been down and a little disgruntled after the FSU game.

as he should be....that wasn't a good look.

in no way though does that mean that I don't think he's one of our all time greats....just sayin.

[gladdenguy]

nice to see Tre tweeting congrats to stee.e. I think he has been down and a little disgruntled after the FSU game.

Was extremely interesting that he did not say one thing about Mack leaving or anything after FSU game. I’m sure he’s disappointed in himself but I hope he was also disappointed in Mack for leaving and having at least one foot out the door.

[MarvAlbert]

I'd view it as Mack riding my back to a bigger and better (grand scheme of things, but who actually knows) job while my status hasn't really improved...I'd be upset too.

[bleedXblue]

I'd view it as Mack riding my back to a bigger and better (grand scheme of things, but who actually knows) job while my status hasn't really improved...I'd be upset too.

Kinda how I would feel too

[GoMuskies]

Committed to Xavier. Beautiful.

https://twitter.com/hankymckspanky/status/981962475607412736

[muskiefan82]

Committed to Xavier. Beautiful.

https://twitter.com/hankymckspanky/status/981962475607412736

Now we have a NATIONAL champion in that locker room.

[bobbiemcgee]

Steele not wasting any time. Needed big man.

[Masterofreality]

Damn, this thread is still active five years in.
Tempus Fugit.

[Lloyd Braun]

His twitter handle is phenomenal.

[sirthought]

Mad respect for a college kid with HankyMcSpanky as his name.

[atljar]

Damn, this thread is still active five years in.
Tempus Fugit.

Even crazier... Is that this is the second version of this post. V1.0 was lost during a board crash/transfer or something

[Jesuit4Life]

https://twitter.com/CoachSteeleXU/status/982098938906972160

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[GIMMFD]

https://twitter.com/CoachSteeleXU/status/982098938906972160

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DFW. The man, the myth, the legend. Great to see Coach Steele getting a bit active on Twitter.

[kellernr]

DFW. The man, the myth, the legend. Great to see Coach Steele getting a bit active on Twitter.West there for an interview since this is his last year in the league?

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[XUGRAD80]

Warriors @ Pacers last night.....so Steele was in Indy. Recruiting Indiana during the day, catching up with DW and watching some NBA in the evening.

[JTG]

Plus D West has connections to an AAU team in North Carolina. And Steele is from Danville, a far West suburb of Indy.

[paulxu]

I'm guessing that West fella would make a fair coach for the big men on a roster.

[kellernr]

Would love to see him back on the Xavier sideline

[Lloyd Braun]

He is very well respected around the league as well and I would expect a few opportunities to coach in NBA sidelines as well in the future.

[GoMuskies]

He is very well respected around the league as well and I would expect a few opportunities to coach in NBA sidelines as well in the future.

Sure, but does he have a tattoo of any NBA franchise on his shoulder?

[bleedXblue]

Dwest isn't going to be an assistant coach for X. Sorry, but that job is grueling with long hours and you have to be 1000% committed. IF West would ever get into coaching it would be after he's had some time to rest and relax after his pro career. Maybe 2-3 years from now.

[Lloyd Braun]

Sure, but does he have a tattoo of any NBA franchise on his shoulder?

Yes. Right shoulder he has a Golden Spiral.

[XUOWNSUC]

David West is a badass. He signed an autograph for my son last night at the Pacers v. Warriors game. Thank You David!

Same goes to you Kevin Durant!

[drudy23]

NBA assistant vs. college assistant.

NBA wins by a longshot.

[GIMMFD]

NBA assistant vs. college assistant.

NBA wins by a longshot.

Meh you never know what these guys want to be honest, he donates to Xavier a bunch, I could see him wanting to be an assistant and being part of a staff that gets us our first Final 4, I think he'd find that incredibly special. I do agree that an NBA assistant job is better though, but who knows, maybe DFW is feeling a bit nostalgic.

Side note: Did anybody else realize that Jalen Brunson's father is an assistant coach to the Minnesota Timberwolves?? I had no idea until last night when I was grabbing a beer with a friend while going over notes and the T'Wolves game was on.

[paulxu]

This guy gave up the big bucks for the chance to get a ring.

Why not give up the NBA assit. job for a chance to help X?

[American X]

If David F. West came to Xavier to coach, (without saying a word) he would move Travis Steele to the side and sit in the head coach's chair.

[bleedXblue]

This guy gave up the big bucks for the chance to get a ring.

Why not give up the NBA assit. job for a chance to help X?

you do understand the jobs are completely different? College assistants probably work 100 hours a week.......mostly game prep, scouting etc during the season and a massive amount of time spent recruiting

[paulxu]

I was being "a little" facetious.

[xukeith]

This guy gave up the big bucks for the chance to get a ring.

Why not give up the NBA assit. job for a chance to help X?

You are dreaming.
West is a great role model. He has never coached a day in his life.
I don't want any candy on the sideline for X. I want master minds and exciting coaches for these 17-22 year olds.
Remember when Aaron Williams was an assistant for Mack? How long did that last? He was the strongest player ever from XU.

I think using the Miller model of assistants(excluding Richardson) or Mack's assistant model is best. No coach starting and older than 40.

[paulxu]

I was being "a little" facetious.

Bump

[muskienick]

You are dreaming.
West is a great role model. He has never coached a day in his life.
I don't want any candy on the sideline for X. I want master minds and exciting coaches for these 17-22 year olds.
Remember when Aaron Williams was an assistant for Mack? How long did that last? He was the strongest player ever from XU.

I think using the Miller model of assistants(excluding Richardson) or Mack's assistant model is best. No coach starting and older than 40.

Aaron Williams was there only to take up the slack temporarily until the regular "big guy coach" came back from an illness or injury.

[IM4X]

Seeing that photo of The two of them together, I wouldn't be surprised if Travis brought up the need to fill assistant jobs and then half jokingly asking D West if he knew anyone for the job... or if he just happened a little free time next season to help with the X bigs.

[Snipe]

I just got goose bumps thinking of David F West on the bench as an assistant coach.

Yeah Keith he hasn't coached a day in his life, because he has played the game.

Trial and error in everything. If he took the job and wasn't good at it, he wouldn't even want to stick around.

[xukeith]

Aaron Williams was there only to take up the slack temporarily until the regular "big guy coach" came back from an illness or injury.

Why might you think Aaron Willliams is not an assistant coach anywhere?

[webxu]

Just bring back all of Power Forward U.. Hill, Strong, Williams, Grant, DWest.. coach by committee.

[Lloyd Braun]

Not sure where to put this but this was an interesting listen. I really like Travis a lot!

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/xaviers-travis-steele-and-louisvilles-chris-mack/id1325823631?i=1000408564440&mt=2

Twitter link (https://twitter.com/theandykatz/status/983668027173539840)

[Masterofreality]

Not sure where to put this but this was an interesting listen. I really like Travis a lot!

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/xaviers-travis-steele-and-louisvilles-chris-mack/id1325823631?i=1000408564440&mt=2

Twitter link (https://twitter.com/theandykatz/status/983668027173539840)

Yeah. I like Travis a lot, but with every word from Coach Dude, I'm less tolerant.
The former coach talks about the "tradition and the past National Championships". Yeah, a "tradition" and "National Championships" based upon a slimy, dirty, corrupt and trash history. Rinse and repeat.
I really hope he falls on his face. Again. I'm from Louisville. I was born in St. Anthony Hospital. I was Baptized at St. James. My dad played football at Male High School. I lived near Eastern Parkway & Bardstown Road. My Mom and many cousins went to UofL. My nephew played baseball for the Cardinals. My Dad, Grandparents, & Aunts and Uncles are buried just down the street in Calvary Cemetery from our old house on Shady Lane. But Louisville has just become such an outlaw University, not just in basketball, but hiring the garbage human Petrino to come back and coach football. The campus is NOT pretty and the City is in hock over the arena that was built to house that sewer. The school LOST over $4 million on their Athletic Department the last two years and had to subsidize their cesspool by $7.4 million last year. The school has been laying off professors and staff to deal with a $48 million shortfall. In short, U of L has sold their soul at the altar of trying to be big time.
None of that ish seems to matter to Coach Dude, who is not shy about collecting as much as he can, min a cool $4 mil, from the sewer. F-him.

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/2017/10/05/university-louisville-sports-wins-costs-coach-salaries-subsidies/727139001/

U of L is a piece of crap. Hope they get the Death Penalty.

[Lloyd Braun]

I did not listen to the other half of the podcast... not bitter just no real interest in being in a foul mood.

[XUGRAD80]

Yeah.......the "tradition and the past National Championships". Yeah, a "tradition" and "National Championships" based upon a slimy, dirty, corrupt and trash history. Rinse and repeat. But Louisville has just become such an outlaw University, not just in basketball, but hiring the garbage human Petrino to come back and coach football. The campus is NOT pretty and the City is in hock over the arena that was built to house that sewer. The school LOST over $4 million on their Athletic Department the last two years and had to subsidize their cesspool by $7.4 million last year. The school has been laying off professors and staff to deal with a $48 million shortfall. In short, U of L has sold their soul at the altar of trying to be big time.

U of L is a piece of crap. Hope they get the Death Penalty.

This^

I couldn’t agree more. UL is everything that is wrong with college sports. And I’m not saying this because of Mack going there. I’m not saying this because I am a UK fan (I’m not!). I am saying this because having lived in the state for the last 25 years, I have seen it happening year after year, getting worse year after year.

[Masterofreality]

This^

I couldn’t agree more. UL is everything that is wrong with college sports. And I’m not saying this because of Mack going there. I’m not saying this because I am a UK fan (I’m not!). I am saying this because having lived in the state for the last 25 years, I have seen it happening year after year, getting worse year after year.

It's like SucKS problems on steroids.

[XUGRAD80]

UC is no where close to being as bad, in fact I have absolutely nothing bad to say about UC over the last several years. The athletes go to class, they graduate, they do well scholasticly. The UCats program is run well and doesn’t operate as a rouge program. I understand that there are people here that have a bias against UC, but I don’t. While I am a proud XU graduate and former athlete, I’m also a native of Cincinnati and grew up rooting for UC. I’m still a football season ticket holder and UCats member, as are my daughter and son-in-law. UL and UC were basically the same school and same athletic department 30-40 years ago. UL and the CITY of Louisville made the decisions that have led to what they have become. The biggest problem down there is that the sports fans in THAT city don’t CARE what they have become or are living in denial. They either don’t see a need to change or have no desire to change.

[GoMuskies]

I know. Louisville has become super successful in just about everything. UC sucks donkey balls in just about everything. It's very different.

[XUGRAD80]

I know. Louisville has become super successful in just about everything. UC sucks donkey balls in just about everything. It's very different.

“Success” at what cost? UL has sold its soul to the money devil.

Re: UC. It was only a couple of years ago that UC football was going to major bowl games and in one case it was only a made field goal that kept them from playing for a NC. They have had a lot of success in many of their sports and are consistently doing well when it comes to academics by the athletes that go there. Don’t let you bias against a coach or against certain players blind you. Living here, we get a lot more information on a regular basis than you. As a UCats member, I get even more.

[GoMuskies]

UC football sucks. They just fired their women's basketball coach. They just fired their baseball coach (to hire ours).

Louisville football has been okay recently, but they've won a Sugar Bowl since the last time UC was any good. Louisville's womens' basketball has been to two national title games and just missed a third this year, losing in OT in the Final Four. Louisville baseball has been to the CWS 4 times. Hell, their soccer team went to the championship game a few years back.

I hate Rick Pitino, but one doesn't have to live in the region to know that Louisville's athletics program has run laps around UC's in the last decade.

[XUGRAD80]

No doubt the UL athletic department has had more on the field/court success over a wider spectrum of sports than UC. But at WHAT COST?

And even if they have had MORE “success” than UC.....that doesn’t mean that UC has not had some too. They have. In addition, the success that they have had is not just on court or on field, it’s in the classroom too. On top of that, they have done it without selling their soul to a pizza company or a shoe company, and without putting a financial burden on the city that the citizens will feel for decades.

[GoMuskies]

Louisville's success on the field is HUGE financial boon to the city of Louisville. Enormous. They may have to pay a few dollars for the Yum Center, but the university didn't negotiate that deal with themselves. The city wanted the arena there, not the university.

The cost has totally been worth it for UofL and for the city. Until this basketball scandal. And I hate Rick Pitino, so there's no way I'd try to defend any of that. And Louisville's athletes have done fine in the classroom. The move to the ACC alone moved the school from fourth tier to third in the US News ratings. So it's been good for the school as well.

UC would certainly trade their athletic (and financial) situations for UofL's though. I guarantee you that.

[JTG]

Ok, at first I was really pissed at Mack for leaving. But I am really high on Steele. I think he may be better than Mack. The only thing I'm still mad at Mack about is sabotaging our #1 seed. I'm probably in the minority, but I think he had one foot out the door from the meeting in NYC with UL. And blew a golden chance at a Final Four.

[XUGRAD80]

I can’t beleive that I’m on the Xavier board trying to defend UC to someone that thinks that they are a UL expert and and a UC expert, and who lives in the middle of Kansas.....someone just shoot me. :whack:

[GoMuskies]

Oh my gosh, I live in Kansas. All of this information is so hard to access out here!

[Lamont Sanford]

Ok, at first I was really pissed at Mack for leaving. But I am really high on Steele. I think he may be better than Mack. The only thing I'm still mad at Mack about is sabotaging our #1 seed. I'm probably in the minority, but I think he had one foot out the door from the meeting in NYC with UL. And blew a golden chance at a Final Four.

+1. Totally agreed. Really liking the start to the Steele era though.

[xu95]

Ok, at first I was really pissed at Mack for leaving. But I am really high on Steele. I think he may be better than Mack. The only thing I'm still mad at Mack about is sabotaging our #1 seed. I'm probably in the minority, but I think he had one foot out the door from the meeting in NYC with UL. And blew a golden chance at a Final Four.

You might not be in the minority of people on this board, but you should be. Chris Mack wanting to go to Louisville did not sabotage our #1 seed. Our teams inability to play defense and hit shots sabotaged our #1 seed. This team was average at best all year defensively and only won games because we scored more than the other team. That finally caught up to us in both New York and Nashville.

xu95

[kellernr]

+1. Totally agreed. Really liking the start to the Steele era though.Steele is the future all time wins leader at Xavier

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[GoMuskies]

Our teams inability to play defense and hit shots sabotaged our #1 seed.

A couple of horseshit calls against JP didn't help. But those other things you listed were also true. Dammit.

[xu95]

I can’t beleive that I’m on the Xavier board trying to defend UC to someone that thinks that they are a UL expert and and a UC expert, and who lives in the middle of Kansas.....someone just shoot me. :whack:


I always love the "better than Thou" mantra. If someone told the UC administration they could get an invite to the Big 12 and compete for National Championships and reap all of the benefits that came with that, they just needed to hire a football coach that might do some questionable things. They would say, "where do we sign".

And yes, I live all the way out here in Kansas too, so I must not know what the heck I'm talking about.

xu95

[xu95]

A couple of horseshit calls against JP didn't help. But those other things you listed were also true. Dammit.


I agree with that too. We should have been so far ahead of FSU that that shouldn't have mattered. Unfortunately this team just wasn't as good as their ranking showed them to be.

xu95

[Cheesehead]

I agree with that too. We should have been so far ahead of FSU that that shouldn't have mattered. Unfortunately this team just wasn't as good as their ranking showed them to be.

xu95

There is truth to this. Skated by in several games.

[paulxu]

This team ....... only won games because we scored more than the other team.

If I move to Kansas, I'd know stuff like this.

I think we lost that game because of 18 TO's (5 more than we averaged) and failure to shoot our season average at the foul line, not because our defense let us down.

I do agree that Mack didn't lose that game. That's on the team, and to think somehow he didn't want to win as much or something, just overlooks the competitiveness he showed for years.

[XUGRAD80]

Oh my gosh, I live in Kansas. All of this information is so hard to access out here!


“I read it on the internet. It must be true!” :jumpforjoy:

[GoMuskies]

Oh, so Louisville DIDN'T go to the College World Series and the Women's Final Four, and UC DIDN'T just fire their coaches in those two sports? My bad.

[xu95]

Oh, so Louisville DIDN'T go to the College World Series and the Women's Final Four, and UC DIDN'T just fire their coaches in those two sports? My bad.

Fake News.

xu95

[X Factor]

If I move to Kansas, I'd know stuff like this.

I think we lost that game because of 18 TO's (5 more than we averaged) and failure to shoot our season average at the foul line, not because our defense let us down.

I do agree that Mack didn't lose that game. That's on the team, and to think somehow he didn't want to win as much or something, just overlooks the competitiveness he showed for years.

Did defense cost us specifically in the FSU game? No, but defense wasn't a staple of Mack coached teams. His best defensive team was the 2016 team that was ranked #22 defensively. Other than that, most of his teams were ranked anywhere from 50-70.

[JTG]

Did you guys end up in Kansas because the wagon train broke down there on the way to California?

[paulxu]

I couldn't agree more that our defense struggled this year. I think Mack did well mixing it up occasionally to help us out.
The FSU game was just horrible from many angles. But we had held them down to a low scoring deal until the very end.
That's when I think TO's killed us. We only had one basket in the last 6 minutes, while turning it over to let them back in. Ugh.

Got to put it behind me and get focused on next year.

[GoMuskies]

Did you guys end up in Kansas because the wagon train broke down there on the way to California?

At least we made it past Indiana!

[X Factor]

I couldn't agree more that our defense struggled this year. I think Mack did well mixing it up occasionally to help us out.
The FSU game was just horrible from many angles. But we had held them down to a low scoring deal until the very end.
That's when I think TO's killed us. We only had one basket in the last 6 minutes, while turning it over to let them back in. Ugh.

Got to put it behind me and get focused on next year.

A large part of the blame HAS to fall on Mack.

[xu95]

A large part of the blame HAS to fall on Mack.

Agreed because he is the coach. But these things didn't happen because he had one foot out the door and wasn't focused on that game.

xu95

[GoMuskies]

Yeah, the checks might have been even bigger at Louisville if he added a Final Four to his resume there at the end.

[paulxu]

Yeah, the checks might have been even bigger at Louisville if he added a Final Four to his resume there at the end.

This...which is why it's nuts to think he wasn't trying his damnedest.

[X Factor]

This...which is why it's nuts to think he wasn't trying his damnedest.

It sure wasn't one of his better coached games.

[XUGRAD80]

Oh, so Louisville DIDN'T go to the College World Series and the Women's Final Four, and UC DIDN'T just fire their coaches in those two sports? My bad.


You seem to have a reading comprehension problem......exactly where did I ever say that UL hasn’t been successful on the field and on the court. Exactly where did I ever say that UC has had success in either baseball or women’s basketball? Go back and actually READ my posts.

I will ask this once again, and try to stay with me this time please.....AT WHAT COST has this “success” come at?

Another question needs to be asked......how did a commuter schoool with poor facilities, located in an urban environment, in one of the poorest states in America, and not a until very recently a member of a major conference, over the span of 20 years move into the upper echelon of facilities and budgets among all of the colleges in America?

If you know the answer to the 2nd question, you will be able to answer the 1st question.

I’m sure MOR could explain it to you. If you care to actually listen.

[paulxu]

In what particular way? Cheap foul calls seemed to force him out of man-to-man to preserve our offensive options.
I know Kanter missed the last shot, but he had hit the last two shots before that when Trevon had turned the ball over twice.
What would you have had him do differently?
We second guess after a loss. We praise moves after a win. Just the way of the world.
To late to fire Mack. He beat you to it.

[GoMuskies]

Another question needs to be asked......how did a commuter schoool with poor facilities, located in an urban environment, in one of the poorest states in America, and not a until very recently a member of a major conference, over the span of 20 years move into the upper echelon of facilities and budgets among all of the colleges in America?

They had the best athletic director in the history of college sports. It's just a shame that he couldn't separate himself from slimy Rick Pitino.

Louisville has been in a major conference since 2005, by the way, and printing money in college basketball since long before that.

[Xville]

You seem to have a reading comprehension problem......exactly where did I ever say that UL hasn’t been successful on the field and on the court. Exactly where did I ever say that UC has had success in either baseball or women’s basketball? Go back and actually READ my posts.

I will ask this once again, and try to stay with me this time please.....AT WHAT COST has this “success” come at?

Another question needs to be asked......how did a commuter schoool with poor facilities, located in an urban environment, in one of the poorest states in America, and not a until very recently a member of a major conference, over the span of 20 years move into the upper echelon of facilities and budgets among all of the colleges in America?

If you know the answer to the 2nd question, you will be able to answer the 1st question.

I’m sure MOR could explain it to you. If you care to actually listen.

1. Athletic director who was an insanely positive fundraiser
2. Donors with a crap ton of money---- you know papa John's, Humana, brown Forman and yum are all here right? Poor state but the city has a lot of people with really deep pockets and jurich tapped into that more than anyone ever could.

[JTG]

Yeah, the checks might have been even bigger at Louisville if he added a Final Four to his resume there at the end.

Let's say he takes us to F4, and somehow we win Title game. He would look like the biggest asshole on the planet if he left. Lose early, sign the contract, and start cashing those big UL checks.

[xubrew]

You seem to have a reading comprehension problem......exactly where did I ever say that UL hasn’t been successful on the field and on the court. Exactly where did I ever say that UC has had success in either baseball or women’s basketball? Go back and actually READ my posts.

I will ask this once again, and try to stay with me this time please.....AT WHAT COST has this “success” come at?

Another question needs to be asked......how did a commuter schoool with poor facilities, located in an urban environment, in one of the poorest states in America, and not a until very recently a member of a major conference, over the span of 20 years move into the upper echelon of facilities and budgets among all of the colleges in America?

If you know the answer to the 2nd question, you will be able to answer the 1st question.

I’m sure MOR could explain it to you. If you care to actually listen.

I honestly don't think the two issues you've raised are connected. At least not in the way you're suggesting.

Louisville basketball has always been a huge deal. That goes back to the 1960s. It was a big deal in that city before college basketball boomed on a national level. If you want my opinion, I think Louisville's program exploded right at the same time that college basketball exploded in the early 80s with the advent of ESPN and the Big East, with CBS getting the NCAA Tournament and turning it into a mega event, and with national broadcasts during the regular season becoming a thing over just regional broadcasts. In a six year period right at that time, Louisville went to four Final Fours and won two national titles. I think they played in two games that are still rated in the top ten of most watched college basketball games of all time. Now they didn't maintain that level of success, but they never really sucked either, and their fanbase never stopped being engaged. They had been selling out Freedom Hall for decades before the Yum Center was built. That program transcended the school. It wasn't just students and alumni that followed it. To a large degree it really was the city's team. It still is. As crazy as this sounds (and it is rather crazy), those teams from the 1980s are as revered in the city of Louisville in very much the same way that the Big Red Machine teams are in Cincinnati. For better or worse, that's how important Louisville basketball is to that city, and it's been that way for about fifty years. Many of their fans and supporters never attended the school or had anything to do with the place. They just live there and support the team in the same way many people support pro teams. That was the case long before Pitino ever got there. That's how a commuter school became so successful.

And, that's perhaps one of the things that compelled them to make some of the moves they made after that.

[XUGRAD80]

You’ve kind of made my point....

I’m not going to get into spreading rumors or pointing fingers are teams, coaches, or players without solid information that has been verified. But

If “money is the root of all evil”, Doesn’t it stand to reason that where there is the most money, there might be the most evil?

There’s a reason the AD lost his job, and it has little or nothing to do with hookers in a dorm room.

I’m going to leave it there. More than enough discussion of Louisville’s problems here on a Xavier board.

[Xville]

You’ve kind of made my point....

I’m not going to get into spreading rumors or pointing fingers are teams, coaches, or players without solid information that has been verified. But

If “money is the root of all evil”, Doesn’t it stand to reason that where there is the most money, there might be the most evil?

There’s a reason the AD lost his job, and it has little or nothing to do with hookers in a dorm room.

I’m going to leave it there. More than enough discussion of Louisville’s problems here on a Xavier board.

The AD lost his job because he kept defending Pitino who became indefensible. That's why he lost his job.

Now if you want to start talking about the former president and the completely shady shit he was pulling, then your sinister conspiracies are accurate.

[Muskeagle]

I know some of you are pissed at Mack....and that's fine. I don't really care. I'm disappointed he left. I don't feel cheated....just disappointed. I, like many of you, have a good vibe about Steele...so I'm excited for the change. Regardless, the narrative that we lost to FSU because Mack phoned it in is patently ridiculous. It's illogical. And, at least in my mind, downright silly. It might soothe some of our wounded egos to believe it, but it really makes no sense. I know this doesn't beyond a shadow of a doubt prove anything, but check out the presser after the game. Mack starts talking at about the 18 minute mark. Did he coach a poor game? maybe. Did his assumption that he was going to Louisville make it easier for other coaches to talk kids out of coming here? maybe. Was he, himself less committed to the recruiting side of things? possibly. But to sit there and argue that he phoned it in in a game? crazy. But watch the presser....that guy was devastated. Spent. That is not a guy who didn't care about winning this game. It wasn't a guy trying to lose and get out the door. He lost a tough game with his guys and he was clearly wrecked.

[Masterofreality]

They had the best athletic director in the history of college sports. It's just a shame that he couldn't separate himself from slimy Rick Pitino.

Louisville has been in a major conference since 2005, by the way, and printing money in college basketball since long before that.

The "Best Athletic Director in the history of College Sports" has been summarily dismissed. Dismissed because he had a renegade Athletic Program that was A) Employing scumbags, B) Enabling said scumbags to do dispicable acts that were totally out of control to maintain a status. C) A Department that has been regularly subsidized by the University as a whole- the same University that is presently running a $48 million deficit. D) Displaying a total Lack of Institutional Control over the minions in his employ. (E) So blatantly corrupt and decrepit that it not only got its Head Basketball Coach fired, but it's Director and University President fired as well.

Buuuuuttt, is it a fixture on the disingenuous, biased and myopic four letter network, does it win games, is it now in a conference that also contains other schools of low integrity that utilize academic fraud to maintain their statuses? Welp, Congratulations, I guess. Glad U of L is maintaining its mission, whatever that may be. And Congratulations to the "Best Athletic Director in the history of Colege Sports" for being granted that title. I'm sure it will be etched on his soiled gravestone.

[GoMuskies]

He had a renegade basketball program. Period. That's it. If he'd have grown a pair and fired Pitino he'd be Scrooge McDuck diving in his gold vault in Louisville right now.

[bobbiemcgee]

Would've loved to see that play vs. FSU this year.

[Masterofreality]

He had a renegade basketball program. Period. That's it. If he'd have grown a pair and fired Pitino he'd be Scrooge McDuck diving in his gold vault in Louisville right now.

Just go ahead and blindly defend the indefensible. Jurich was FIRED, and not just for a "renegade basketball program."

[GoMuskies]

Just go ahead and blindly defend the indefensible. Jurich was FIRED, and not just for a "renegade basketball program."

Of course it was just for a renegade basketball program. And who's defending that? The rest of the department is pretty well spotless.

[IM4X]

I know some of you are pissed at Mack....and that's fine. Regardless, the narrative that we lost to FSU because Mack phoned it in is patently ridiculous. It's illogical. And, at least in my mind, downright silly. It might soothe some of our wounded egos to believe it, but it really makes no sense. Did he coach a poor game against FSU? YES... especially the last 5 minutes. Did his assumption that he was going to Louisville make it easier for other coaches to talk kids out of coming here? Yes. Was he, himself less committed to the recruiting side of things for X? Most likely. But to sit there and argue that he phoned it in in a game? crazy.

Did he try to make X look inferior during his introduction speech at Louisville by saying he was unable to land recruits he went after at X who ended up at Louisville? Yes (when the truth simply could have had everything to do with those prospects preferring to play for Pitino over him and nothing to do with the schools).

But watch the presser....that guy was devastated. Spent. That is not a guy who didn't care about winning this game. It wasn't a guy trying tolose and get out the door. He lost a tough game with his guys and then said he wished he could have done more (as if to suggest he believed he was not at all part of the reason for the loss). He clearly felt bad for his players (just not upset with himself for not having prepared a better game plan for the end of the game).

Can we blame a man for leaving a position he called his dream job even when they were willing to give him
$3 million a year... for one that was willing to pay him $4 million? No... I guess he has the right to chasing after the most money he can get for a new job... even if that new job is at a university known for doing disgraceful things against and again... like cheating and allowing innapropropriate behavior to go on and doing things that are clearly illegal.

Though, we can reasonably deduce that a coach who chooses that path likely doesn't consider loyalty,honesty, integrity, sincerity and humility important values to live by.


Fix it for you and I'm personally happy to leave it at that.

Besides... I am ecstatic about Travis being the new head coach: He's humble, a great recruiter, great offensive mind... and he won't ever come across arrogant and full of himself to the media like the last guy had a tendency to do from time to time.

[Xville]

Just go ahead and blindly defend the indefensible. Jurich was FIRED, and not just for a "renegade basketball program."

That's exactly why he was fired.

[GoMuskies]

Regardless, the point is that Louisville is in a 1000% better place than UC from an athletics perspective. Not even close.

[xu95]

Regardless, the point is that Louisville is in a 1000% better place than UC from an athletics perspective. Not even close.


Right, but at what cost? (Sorry I couldn't help myself)

xu95

[IM4X]

Not sure where to put this but this was an interesting listen. I really like Travis a lot!

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/xaviers-travis-steele-and-louisvilles-chris-mack/id1325823631?i=1000408564440&mt=2

Twitter link (https://twitter.com/theandykatz/status/983668027173539840)


thx for posting!

two thoughts:

Nice interview with Travis but some serious audio issues: Andy really needs to remember to remind new head coaches he interviews to keep still and with their phone at the same distance throughout the entire interview.

Still want to throw up when I listen to Mack. I honestly wouldn't mind so much if he at least had a little integrity (but then that went out the door when he took the job at Corrupt U). When he was at X, he stated he believed the Big East was the best league in college basketball... now that he is in the ACC he tells Andy, "I think the ACC is arguably the best conference... and personally I don't even think it's close."

I have no problem with "Arguably the best conference" part... but the "Personally, it isn't even close" just confirms what a phony he was and how much he is trying to use lame excuses to distract Louisville fans from remembering the fact that he wasn't even able to lead his #1 seeded team - stacked with talent - to a Final Four... or even a sweet sixteen.

Looking forward to seeing Steele shine and serving the dude some humble pie.

[Masterofreality]

That's exactly why he was fired.

He was fired for general malfeasance, bad financial management and poor oversight in general. The renegade basketball program was the most visible, but only a part of the total picture.

[Masterofreality]

Regardless, the point is that Louisville is in a 1000% better place than UC from an athletics perspective. Not even close.

Well, we can agree on that, despite both programs losing their financial asses.
We all know that SucKS is a total dumpster fire. Santa did not deliver the Big 12 present that he promised.

[Xville]

He was fired for general malfeasance, bad financial management and poor oversight in general. The renegade basketball program was the most visible, but only a part of the total picture.

If that's your opinion, ok. However the actual fact is that he was fired because of Rick Pitino and his loyalty to him.

[webxu]

I still don't get how you take that job without knowing what sort of sanctions are coming. I get the $ factor, but say they get a tourney ban for a few years going to be real hard to recruit for that, that snowballs into 5+ years of being irrelevant by the time you get good recruits again and make a tourney to build back up. 5 years is an eternity in CBB, all of a sudden Mack goes from top 15 coach to being forgotten.

[xudash]

Regardless, the point is that Louisville is in a 1000% better place than UC from an athletics perspective. Not even close.

Enjoyable fact, but a weak benchmark to say the least.

[Masterofreality]

If that's your opinion, ok. However the actual fact is that he was fired because of Rick Pitino and his loyalty to him.

Financial mismanagement that was making the Board very uncomfortable. (See Courier Journal article previously posted re losses) plus some other coaching missteps. The Pitino thing finally set it as a finality but Jurich was feeling some heat from the less "Athletically inclined" Board members and many were NOT happy about Petrino being hired back plus before Petrino came back, Jurich hired two mistakes-Kragthorpe and Charlie Strong. The guy wasn't iron clad.
You can have an opinion, and that's fine, but I know A LOT of people in Louisville. I'm done with this discussion. It's over anyway.

Get 'em Travis.

[GoMuskies]

Did you just say Charlie Strong was a mistake?!? Jesus, dude, you can't act like you know what you're talking about with Louisvlle and then say that. LOL.

BTW, I'm just giving you shit MOR. In reality, who the fuck cares about any of it? It's already had its effect on Xavier and won't have any more. And Bobby Petrino remains one of my personal heroes...you're not changing my mind there! :)

[GoMuskies]

Enjoyable fact, but a weak benchmark to say the least.

Yes, we should go back to pointing and laughing at UC. I blame Snipe for the derailment.

[Snipe]

Don't blame me, I was meeting covertly with the Russians at the time.

[Xville]

Financial mismanagement that was making the Board very uncomfortable. (See Courier Journal article previously posted re losses) plus some other coaching missteps. The Pitino thing finally set it as a finality but Jurich was feeling some heat from the less "Athletically inclined" Board members and many were NOT happy about Petrino being hired back plus before Petrino came back, Jurich hired two mistakes-Kragthorpe and Charlie Strong. The guy wasn't iron clad.
You can have an opinion, and that's fine, but I know A LOT of people in Louisville. I'm done with this discussion. It's over anyway.

Get 'em Travis.

Charlie strong a mistake? Geezus. You don't know what you are talking about. That was as good of a hire as anyone has ever made especially given where the program was after kragthorpe.

Jurich wasnt without faults..no one is but he was fired because of Pitino that's the truth period. The rest is just noise.

[FIGHTING MUSKETEER]

Rick Broering
@RickBroering
A source tells me Xavier coach Travis Steele will have an in-home visit with 5-star Matthew Hurt on Wednesday. Hurt is the No. 4 ranked player in the 2019 class.

8:31 PM - Apr 12, 2018

[Lloyd Braun]

Rick Broering
@RickBroering
A source tells me Xavier coach Travis Steele will have an in-home visit with 5-star Matthew Hurt on Wednesday. Hurt is the No. 4 ranked player in the 2019 class.

8:31 PM - Apr 12, 2018

Can’t jump off one foot but I’ll take him.

[GreatWhiteNorth]

This guy Steele is off the chart. Can’t be happier!

[XUGRAD80]

Does appear that Steele is not afraid to go head to head with the big boys. I like his attitude!

[bobbiemcgee]

Goodman:
Evansville transfer Dru Smith told ESPN he has set an official visit to Virginia Tech for this weekend, one to Xavier on April 20 and Missouri on April 27. Averaged 13.7 points and 4.6 assists this past season.

[GIMMFD]

Rick Broering
@RickBroering
A source tells me Xavier coach Travis Steele will have an in-home visit with 5-star Matthew Hurt on Wednesday. Hurt is the No. 4 ranked player in the 2019 class.

8:31 PM - Apr 12, 2018

I'm sure Ben Johnson will be with him as well considering that's a Minnesota boy, now how awesome would it be to lock up a top 5 recruit in the 2019 class??

[bobbiemcgee]

Steele "slumbers not, nor sleeps".

[MauriceX]

Rick Broering
@RickBroering
A source tells me Xavier coach Travis Steele will have an in-home visit with 5-star Matthew Hurt on Wednesday. Hurt is the No. 4 ranked player in the 2019 class.

8:31 PM - Apr 12, 2018

Wait, we still do tweets in this thread??? :biggrin:

[kellernr]

If he can land Hurt that would be awesome.

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[xu95]

I'm sure Ben Johnson will be with him as well considering that's a Minnesota boy, now how awesome would it be to lock up a top 5 recruit in the 2019 class??

Especially since if you look at 247s recruiting page for him it lists Johnson as the lead recruiter for him at Minnesota.

xu95

[xukeith]

Especially since if you look at 247s recruiting page for him it lists Johnson as the lead recruiter for him at Minnesota.

xu95

Definitely. Maybe Johnson was Hurts' go to guy at Minnesota. He might have great chemistry with him. That get would be gigantic.

[kellernr]

Definitely. Maybe Johnson was Hurts' go to guy at Minnesota. He might have great chemistry with him. That get would be gigantic.So was Steele the main recruiter for X and Mack just played the role of closer when needed?

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[Lloyd Braun]

@TimSullivan714 “University of Louisville Athletic Assiciation authorizes funds be liquidated for Chris Mack’s buyout at Xavier. Final amount being calculated. Estimated between $3.5 and $4.25 million.”

[GoMuskies]

@TimSullivan714 “University of Louisville Athletic Assiciation authorizes funds be liquidated for Chris Mack’s buyout at Xavier. Final amount being calculated. Estimated between $3.5 and $4.25 million.”

That's nice. Real nice.

[Blue Blooded-05]

Goodman:
Evansville transfer Dru Smith told ESPN he has set an official visit to Virginia Tech for this weekend, one to Xavier on April 20 and Missouri on April 27. Averaged 13.7 points and 4.6 assists this past season.

Hmmm, I don’t know about this one. I mean, the last Evansville transfer we brought in back in the early 90s rocked a Vanilla Ice flat top, shot a horrendous .185 from the field and averaged a paltry 1 point per game.

What ever happened to that guy?

[xu95]

So was Steele the main recruiter for X and Mack just played the role of closer when needed?

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Each coach was the lead recruiter for different players. For example, with Boudreaux, Luke Murray was the lead recruiter. Usually the head coach is the closer.

xu95

[xudash]

Wait, we still do tweets in this thread??? :biggrin:

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Public Reps since the man is keeping me down.

[xu95]

Public Reps since the man is keeping me down.

I took care of it for you.

xu95

[paulxu]

@TimSullivan714 “University of Louisville Athletic Assiciation authorizes funds be liquidated for Chris Mack’s buyout at Xavier. Final amount being calculated. Estimated between $3.5 and $4.25 million.”


That's nice. Real nice.

That's about what the payout would have been if we'd gone 2 more games to the E8.
Except we don't have to share this with the BE.

[deepX]

Hmmm, I don’t know about this one. I mean, the last Evansville transfer we brought in back in the early 90s rocked a Vanilla Ice flat top, shot a horrendous .185 from the field and averaged a paltry 1 point per game.

What ever happened to that guy?

Apparently we sold him for about $3.5 - $4.25 million! Not too bad for a guy with bad knees and bad(no) hair!

[BandAid]

Apparently we sold him for about $3.5 - $4.25 million! Not too bad for a guy with bad knees and bad(no) hair!

Imagine what we could've gotten for him if he had hair!

[kellernr]

Each coach was the lead recruiter for different players. For example, with Boudreaux, Luke Murray was the lead recruiter. Usually the head coach is the closer.

xu95From Steeles first press conference he made it sound like Mack wasn't big on the recruiting trail. Said he was going to be like Izzo and be the main recruiter and head coach.

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[xu95]

Correct. Steele, Murray, and Peagues did the leg work and Mack came in at the 23rd hour and sealed the deal. However, the way I understand it, no scholarship was offered to a kid without Mack's approval.

xu95

[MADXSTER]

Goodman:
Evansville transfer Dru Smith told ESPN he has set an official visit to Virginia Tech for this weekend, one to Xavier on April 20 and Missouri on April 27. Averaged 13.7 points and 4.6 assists this past season.

James Farr is from Evansville. Just sayin

[IM4X]

Rick Broering
@RickBroering
A source tells me Xavier coach Travis Steele will have an in-home visit with 5-star Matthew Hurt on Wednesday. Hurt is the No. 4 ranked player in the 2019 class.

8:31 PM - Apr 12, 2018

Travis "Energizer" Steele... He keeps going... and going... and going...

[IM4X]

Goodman:
Evansville transfer Dru Smith told ESPN he has set an official visit to Virginia Tech for this weekend, one to Xavier on April 20 and Missouri on April 27. Averaged 13.7 points and 4.6 assists this past season.

...and going.

[XUMIOH12]

James Farr is from Evansville. Just sayin

Farr is from Evanston, IL not Evansville, IN

[IM4X]

@TimSullivan714 “University of Louisville Athletic Assiciation authorizes funds be liquidated for Chris Mack’s buyout at Xavier. Final amount being calculated. Estimated between $3.5 and $4.25 million.”

This change of coaches just gets better and better for X.

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[Masterofreality]

This change of coaches just gets better and better for X.

Welp. That sure takes care of any lost NCAA credits to the A14.

[D-West & PO-Z]

@TimSullivan714 “University of Louisville Athletic Assiciation authorizes funds be liquidated for Chris Mack’s buyout at Xavier. Final amount being calculated. Estimated between $3.5 and $4.25 million.”

I was shocked when I saw it was that high. Awesome.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Travis "Energizer" Steele... He keeps going... and going... and going...

The anti-Pitino.

[GoMuskies]

So the guy whose tweet about the Greek Freak not getting served at a Milwaukee Mexican restaurant yesterday went viral yesterday is apparently a Xavier grad (class of '12). So we have another minor celebrity in our ranks.

https://twitter.com/MoSokanhe/status/988161323811958784

[Masterofreality]

So the guy whose tweet about the Greek Freak not getting served at a Milwaukee Mexican restaurant yesterday went viral yesterday is apparently a Xavier grad (class of '12). So we have another minor celebrity in our ranks.

https://twitter.com/MoSokanhe/status/988161323811958784

What? You mean not just white dudes are racist? #OrNot

[Drew]

What? You mean not just white dudes are racist? #OrNot

What?

[GoMuskies]

What?

I believe the appropriate response was actually "Wut?"

Personally, I wouldn't just assume that the ownership/operation of a Mexican restaurant in Milwaukee involves anyone other than white people. Also, pretty sure the place was just full.

[MITTENMUSKIE16]

So Jeff Goodman just tweeted out Kaiser is an early entrant in the draft. Surprising that this is the first time we hear about it... though anyone who follows him on Instagram knew he hasn’t been in school since the tournament. He’s been training down in Miami. Was worried he was considering grad transfer (if he has the credits?) after Welage signed. Know there was some buzz early in the year about him as a 3 and D guy. I could see a team taking a second round flyer on him if he shot lights on in a workout. No reason he doesn’t come back though.

[GetUp5]

So Jeff Goodman just tweeted out Kaiser is an early entrant in the draft. Surprising that this is the first time we hear about it... though anyone who follows him on Instagram knew he hasn’t been in school since the tournament. He’s been training down in Miami. Was worried he was considering grad transfer (if he has the credits?) after Welage signed. Know there was some buzz early in the year about him as a 3 and D guy. I could see a team taking a second round flyer on him if he shot lights on in a workout. No reason he doesn’t come back though.

Kaiser Gates will not get drafted.

No reason NOT to declare and get feedback from NBA teams, though.

[MITTENMUSKIE16]

While I think it’s highly unlikely, 6’8 guys that are capable shooters from 3 and can defend and rebound don’t grow on trees. If he impresses someone picking in the back half of the second round, they might say why not take a shot with this guy. There’s about a 1% chance he gets drafted, though. He’ll get his info, (I.e. shoot it more consistently and have some more confidence this coming year), and see himself getting taken in the second round next year.!

[Xville]

While I think it’s highly unlikely, 6’8 guys that are capable shooters from 3 and can defend and rebound don’t grow on trees. If he impresses someone picking in the back half of the second round, they might say why not take a shot with this guy. There’s about a 1% chance he gets drafted, though. He’ll get his info, (I.e. shoot it more consistently and have some more confidence this coming year), and see himself getting taken in the second round next year.!

I invite you to watch the nba playoffs and realize how insane it is to think there is even a remote chance gates could ever get drafted.

This may be even more insane than the people who believed blueitt was ever going to get drafted.

[MITTENMUSKIE16]

I don’t think he’s going to be taken, I don’t think he should be taken. Not every second round player is taken with the belief they’ll be playing in the nba next year, let alone the playoffs. There’s this thing called the G-League. Idk if you’ve heard of it, it’s like minor league baseball. People in professional sports buy lottery tickets on potential. Equivalent of drafting a guy in the late rounds who has never been able to find a strike zone but bumps 95 from the left side.

[Xville]

I don’t think he’s going to be taken, I don’t think he should be taken. Not every second round player is taken with the belief they’ll be playing in the nba next year, let alone the playoffs. There’s this thing called the G-League. Idk if you’ve heard of it, it’s like minor league baseball. People in professional sports buy lottery tickets on potential. Equivalent of drafting a guy in the late rounds who has never been able to find a strike zone but bumps 95 from the left side.

What potential do you think he has? Hes not athletically gifted by nba standards, which is what nba players with potential are drafted upon

[MITTENMUSKIE16]

“@jeffborzello: NBA guys are intrigued by Xavier's Kaiser Gates. 6-foot-8, shoots it consistently from the perimeter, bouncy. Also really guards, versatile defender. Has 16 points, five boards tonight against Baylor.”

The potential is to be a long 3 and D guy. That is the only potential there is.

[MADXSTER]

I invite you to watch the nba playoffs and realize how insane it is to think there is even a remote chance gates could ever get drafted.


This is the problem. I invite you to watch teams that don't make the NBA playoffs. They are horrific. Yes IMO Gates and Tre both have a shot when you watch those teams. People who only watch the playoffs do not know how bad NBA players can really be.

[mistabeecee41]

This is the problem. I invite you to watch teams that don't make the NBA playoffs. They are horrific. Yes IMO Gates and Tre both have a shot when you watch those teams. People who only watch the playoffs do not know how bad NBA players can really be.

This just isn’t true at all. There is a reason why college players who are much better than Kaiser Gates play in Europe. NBA bench guys are incredible Basketball talents.

[Xville]

This is the problem. I invite you to watch teams that don't make the NBA playoffs. They are horrific. Yes IMO Gates and Tre both have a shot when you watch those teams. People who only watch the playoffs do not know how bad NBA players can really be.

The worst team by record were the suns this year. Look at their roster and tell me again how gates makes an nba team.

This discussion is completely absurd and you really dont know what you are talking about.

[XUMIOH12]

“@jeffborzello: NBA guys are intrigued by Xavier's Kaiser Gates. 6-foot-8, shoots it consistently from the perimeter, bouncy. Also really guards, versatile defender. Has 16 points, five boards tonight against Baylor.”

The potential is to be a long 3 and D guy. That is the only potential there is.

*quotes a tweet from nearly 6 months ago*

[letskeepitreal]

*quotes a tweet from nearly 6 months ago*

Someone’s on drugs

[MITTENMUSKIE16]

*the question was what potential I saw in Kaiser Gates*

I was answering the question with what potential NBA guys see in Kaiser, regardless of how many months ago it was. Kaiser has a long, long way to go before being drafted (which FYI, doesn’t mean being on an nba roster. He could go be the last guy for the Suns G-League, and it would still count as being drafted).

However, unlike Trevon, he doesn’t need to grow 3 more inches or suddenly increase his very by 2 feet or gain lateral quickness he’s never had. That’s the point of potential. Having physical attributes that could one day make you better than you currently are.

[JTG]

The worst team by record were the suns this year. Look at their roster and tell me again how gates makes an nba team.

This discussion is completely absurd and you really dont know what you are talking about.

Kyle Korver can't guard a lamppost, or drive to the basket, or shoot midrange. But he can knock down 3s. He's been in the league for 10+ years.

[Masterofreality]

Kyle Korver can't guard a lamppost, or drive to the basket, or shoot midrange. But he can CONSISTENTLY knock down 3s. He's been in the league for 10+ years.

Fixed that for you.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

The NBA is a lot more political than you might think. There are better players not in the league, there are guys on NBA benches that know their role and stick to it.



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[XUMIOH12]

Kyle Korver can't guard a lamppost, or drive to the basket, or shoot midrange. But he can knock down 3s. He's been in the league for 10+ years.

You mean Kyle Korver who is one of the best shooters ever, and has the 6th best 3pt% and 4th most made 3s in NBA history?

[sirthought]

And Korver can so guard in the NBA, he's just not doing it always. Watching the game the other night he was in someone's grill most of the game. Not an elite defender, but he's certainly an NBA worthy player all around.

[Xville]

Kyle Korver can't guard a lamppost, or drive to the basket, or shoot midrange. But he can knock down 3s. He's been in the league for 10+ years.

You mean the Kyle korver who was an absolute stud in college and one of the best 3 point shooters ever in the nba? Yeah him and gates are on the same level.

This is the kind of thing I'm talking about by people on here regarding the nba...most dont have a clue.

[JTG]

My point was more about Bluiett. But there are guys on every bench in the NBA that are marginal at best. Stick to pontificating about your beloved Cards.

[Xville]

My point was more about Bluiett. But there are guys on every bench in the NBA that are marginal at best. Stick to pontificating about your beloved Cards.

Again, this is not true. Are they marginal by NBA standards? Sure...otherwise they would be starting and playing 30 minutes a game. However, they are on a roster because they are freakishly athletic and with that have potential, or can do one thing ridiculously well at the nba level.

Your point with Bluiett again proves how you don't know anything about the NBA. Tre would never be able to get his shot off in the league...he is too short and not athletic even by high division 1 standards let alone the NBA.

[XUGRAD80]

The great thing about “discussions” like this.....they aren’t just hypocritical. Bluiett, and others, will actually be given a chance to PROVE it one way or another.

[GetUp5]

Kaiser Gates and Kyle Korver in the same sentence. Sheesh.

Tre, JP, Kaiser... All those guys will get a change in the G League, the D League, Overseas, whatever.. But they aren't getting drafted.

[GoMuskies]

Kaiser Gates and Kyle Korver in the same sentence. Sheesh.


What's wrong with putting them in the same sentence? Try this, for example: Kaiser Gates is not nearly as good as Kyle Korver.

[GIMMFD]

*the question was what potential I saw in Kaiser Gates*

I was answering the question with what potential NBA guys see in Kaiser, regardless of how many months ago it was. Kaiser has a long, long way to go before being drafted (which FYI, doesn’t mean being on an nba roster. He could go be the last guy for the Suns G-League, and it would still count as being drafted).

However, unlike Trevon, he doesn’t need to grow 3 more inches or suddenly increase his very by 2 feet or gain lateral quickness he’s never had. That’s the point of potential. Having physical attributes that could one day make you better than you currently are.

Yup, bingo. There's potential for Gates because of athleticism, and as stated if you're good at one thing, you have a chance. The thing is Kaiser really needs to be consistent with his 3 ball, he has the length and lateral quickness to play some defense, but if he shoots like he did end of the stretch of the season for us, there's no way he gets a look. I'm beginning to wonder if it's mental, we've heard time and time again that Gates was the best shooter in practice and would knock them down consistently, and even Q said Gates helped him improve his three point shot, it's not like he shot terrible, pretty well in fact, but the NBA line is moved back, and there's nothing much more he can bring to the table as he's not a speedy slasher that can get to the rim. The 3 would have to hit at a high rate, but there is potential there.

[smileyy]

So Jeff Goodman just tweeted out Kaiser is an early entrant in the draft. Surprising that this is the first time we hear about it... though anyone who follows him on Instagram knew he hasn’t been in school since the tournament. He’s been training down in Miami. Was worried he was considering grad transfer (if he has the credits?) after Welage signed. Know there was some buzz early in the year about him as a 3 and D guy. I could see a team taking a second round flyer on him if he shot lights on in a workout. No reason he doesn’t come back though.

Confirmed by ESPN here:
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23306502/2018-nba-draft-every-player-declared-early

[xu82]

Confirmed by ESPN here:
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23306502/2018-nba-draft-every-player-declared-early

Holy cow! That’s a lot more players than there are draft slots!!!

[kellernr]

Holy cow! That’s a lot more players than there are draft slots!!!That's not counting the seniors that are graduating.

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[MADXSTER]

This just isn’t true at all. There is a reason why college players who are much better than Kaiser Gates play in Europe. NBA bench guys are incredible Basketball talents.

You are probably correct that I don't know what I'm talking about. I do know that I've watched NBA games this year, non playoff teams, and the games were horrible. It opened up my eyes quite a bit because until this past year the only NBA games I've watched in the last 10 years have been playoff games. Non playoff teams are not very good or are not coached very well. My guess is that most folks(on here) base NBA talent by watching the talent NBA playoff talent and that's just not the same, obviously.

[xu82]

You are probably correct that I don't know what I'm talking about. I do know that I've watched NBA games this year, non playoff teams, and the games were horrible. It opened up my eyes quite a bit because until this past year the only NBA games I've watched in the last 10 years have been playoff games. Non playoff teams are not very good or are not coached very well. My guess is that most folks(on here) base NBA talent by watching the talent NBA playoff talent and that's just not the same, obviously.

From my (wasted money) experience, even the playoffs teams don’t try unless it’s the playoffs. When we travelled and the kids were young, we’d bribe them with NBA tix that night if they were good during the day. I remember having about $800 into tix in Charlotte one time. My younger son, an above average AAU PG, turned to me about 5 minutes in and said “they’re not even trying!” I’m glad that was clear to him, as it’s the last time a spent a dime on watching the NBA.

[GoMuskies]

How close were you sitting? When I've been to non-playoff NBA games and had good seats, it's pretty amazing how fast the game is played. You can't play as fast as those guys without trying.

[xu82]

In Boston watching Lebron the seats were decent, but the food was awesome! In Charlotte, the most recent game, we spent big bucks for very good seats. It was early season, and I swear the AAU teams shamed them in terms of effort. I still don’t watch the NBA until the playoffs. I know they are really good and make it look easy, but it’s a long season and they coast too much for me.

[GIMMFD]

Holy cow! That’s a lot more players than there are draft slots!!!

That's true, but I think a lot of people just test the waters to see what they need to work on to improve themselves for next year, with no intention of actually keeping their name in the draft, I think Jon Elmore from Marshall did that last year, and Cal used to do that (don't know if he still does) by sending the entire roster. It is crazy that like 62 or what will get drafted and rest will either go to the G League or Europe (which 6 figures while living in Europe in your 20s isn't a bad gig)

[xukeith]

You mean Kyle Korver who is one of the best shooters ever, and has the 6th best 3pt% and 4th most made 3s in NBA history?
Saw him play at Cintas vs. West. His last second 3 rimmed out. Great game.

[usfldan]

It looks like Xavier will have a new beat writer this year:

https://twitter.com/AdamJBaum/status/1027975041684852738



I’m gonna miss high school sports, but I’m very excited and grateful for the opportunity to cover @XUAthletics https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/xavier/xaviersports/2018/08/10/xavier-basketball-2018-19-adam-baum-now-covering-musketeers/933629002/ … via @Enquirer @ENQSports

[GoMuskies]

https://twitter.com/ClubProGuy/status/1028782146884915200

[xu82]

https://twitter.com/ClubProGuy/status/1028782146884915200

That was before the cozy little hug. Neither wanted to let that opportunity pass.

[Lloyd Braun]

Guess that means Tiger is back afterall.

[94GRAD]

Dekeyvan Tandy (KyKy) official visit set for Oct 19-21.

https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/status/1048999019748442113

[scoscox]

^ very, very good sign

[GIMMFD]

Dekeyvan Tandy (KyKy) official visit set for Oct 19-21.

https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/status/1048999019748442113

Is that Muskie Madness weekend?

[94GRAD]

Is that Muskie Madness weekend?

Yes

[noteggs]

Is that Muskie Madness weekend?

Madness and Family weekend both. October 19-21. Bummed madness is on Friday vs Saturday since that’s when we visit our daughter. Oh well, glad he’s visiting that weekend.

[GIMMFD]

Madness and Family weekend both. October 19-21. Bummed madness is on Friday vs Saturday since that’s when we visit our daughter. Oh well, glad he’s visiting that weekend.

Agreed, good weekend to visit, campus should be pretty fun, hopefully it convinces him enough to go ahead and commit.

[94GRAD]

New shingling at The Club!

https://twitter.com/Danagardens/status/1050119616515764224

[paulxu]

Very nice BJ!

[xudash]

Very nice BJ!

Paul, 90% chance of seeing it in person on October 25th. Please let me know if you might be in the Queen City then.

[xu82]

New shingling at The Club!

https://twitter.com/Danagardens/status/1050119616515764224

Awesome! Well done, sir!

Look forward to visiting early this season.

[muskiefan82]

Very nice BJ!

Aren't they all?

[bjf123]

Aren't they all?

Public reps!


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[94GRAD]

Aren't they all?

The toothy ones aren't very nice!

[muskiefan82]

The toothy ones aren't very nice!

You just need to make some halftime adjustments

[X-band '01]

Jon Rothstein on Central Florida being picked to win the American (https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1051834216282030081)


Those surprised that UCF was picked first in the American haven't followed the past few seasons. If Knights had Cincinnati on their chest, they'd be viewed as a Sweet 16 caliber team.

[bobbiemcgee]

Give it to 'em coach:

https://twitter.com/FTFonFS1/status/1055141877840859139

[XUGRAD80]

Cooley is right on point in this video. Love it!

[sirthought]

I wish he would have called out ESPN directly, but he pretty much laid it out there. He's an easy guy to root for when you see how hard he works.

[Lamont Sanford]

Cooley is easily my second favorite BE head coach.

[94GRAD]

Cooley is easily my second favorite BE head coach.

Let me guess, Dave Leito is your favorite.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Let me guess, Dave Leito is your favorite.

Lol, BE has some coaches that are easy to like. I always like McDermott but maybe a bit less after hearing about his assistant.

[GIMMFD]

Lol, BE has some coaches that are easy to like. I always like McDermott but maybe a bit less after hearing about his assistant.

I've always like Jay Wright, I mean yeah he absolutely destroys us year in and year out, but he's so complimentative, and just really seems like such a nice guy.

[BandAid]

I've always like Jay Wright, I mean yeah he absolutely destroys us year in and year out, but he's so complimentative, and just really seems like such a nice guy.

I feel about Jay Wright the way Wes Mantooth feels about Ron Burgundy.

[xukeith]

Ed Cooley.
I forget why he has bald spots on his head...genetics? old age?

[Xuperman]

Ed Cooley.
I forget why he has bald spots on his head...genetics? old age?

You "forgot"? So you once knew but not now? Fortunately we have the Google machine......

[xukeith]

You "forgot"? So you once knew but not now? Fortunately we have the Google machine......
EVERYTHING on the internet must be true!!!!!

[Olsingledigit]

Alopecia I believe

[kmcrawfo]

Alopecia I believe

There seems to be a prevalent theme on the internet saying that those spots are alopecia areata. However, they certainly don't look like alopecia areata to my eye. They appear to irregular and inflammatory for that diagnosis. Looks like some type of scarring or aa burnt-out, inflammatory process. Some possibilities would be Perhaps consistent with previous dissecting cellulitis or pseudofolliculitis barbae.....

[paulxu]

That post is going to need more editing.

[bobbiemcgee]

pseudofolliculitis barbae.....


Anything like shrimp on the barbae….

[GIMMFD]

There seems to be a prevalent theme on the internet saying that those spots are alopecia areata. However, they certainly don't look like alopecia areata to my eye. They appear to irregular and inflammatory for that diagnosis. Looks like some type of scarring or aa burnt-out, inflammatory process. Some possibilities would be Perhaps consistent with previous dissecting cellulitis or pseudofolliculitis barbae.....

I'd put down like $10 that I was the only person on this entire board that understood that.

[chico]

There seems to be a prevalent theme on the internet saying that those spots are alopecia areata. However, they certainly don't look like alopecia areata to my eye. They appear to irregular and inflammatory for that diagnosis. Looks like some type of scarring or aa burnt-out, inflammatory process. Some possibilities would be Perhaps consistent with previous dissecting cellulitis or pseudofolliculitis barbae.....

Show off...

[bobbiemcgee]

https://twitter.com/BCNokia/status/1056590637607325696?s=20

[Olsingledigit]

There seems to be a prevalent theme on the internet saying that those spots are alopecia areata. However, they certainly don't look like alopecia areata to my eye. They appear to irregular and inflammatory for that diagnosis. Looks like some type of scarring or aa burnt-out, inflammatory process. Some possibilities would be Perhaps consistent with previous dissecting cellulitis or pseudofolliculitis barbae.....

Well doc you would certainly know better than I, because (me fessing up here) I am not a doctor, nor have I played one on tv, but I have always wanted to. Seriously Doc, if any one would know it would be you, my favorite dermatologist. Thanks for the analysis, although the only thing I understood was that it is likely not alopecia. Now let’s you and I talk a little debits and credits some day.

[XMuskieFTW]

https://twitter.com/BCNokia/status/1056590637607325696?s=20

BC Nokia has started 4-2 this season. Sean is averaging 21.5/8.3/2.2 while Malcolm is averaging 16.8/5.2/1.8. Pretty cool to see those two as the team's two best players.

[scoscox]

Thought this was pretty funny
https://twitter.com/NorwoodHardwood/status/1058024005477769216

[Lloyd Braun]

Ed signing (https://twitter.com/tonyd1070/status/1093612469967339520?s=21) with Pacers for rest of year

Edit: if he signs a minimum deal, I think that works out to just under $500k for the rest of the year.

[GIMMFD]

Because it's been a while since we've had some fun:
https://twitter.com/XavierMBB/status/1098600485064531978

[noteggs]

Because it's been a while since we've had some fun:
https://twitter.com/XavierMBB/status/1098600485064531978

Ok welage trying to dance - priceless!

[scoscox]

Welly is our Kevin love

[X Factor]

:lol::lol::laugh::laugh:

Classic!!

[GIMMFD]

https://twitter.com/XavierMBB/status/1100082844339236864

Some guys were worried about Q not celebrating in the last video here, I think he's pretty happy and we shouldn't worry about that after this ;)

[noteggs]

Yeah but Welage still can’t dance. Lol

[scoscox]

I'd love to know the story behind that hat

[IM4X]

Yeah but Welage still can’t dance. Lol

Now just hold on there Mr. Farley... I didn’t see him trying to dance in the video- I just saw him clapping.
I’m going to go out on a limb and saying he’s legit when it comes to doing the floss.

[noteggs]

Now just hold on there Mr. Farley... I didn’t see him trying to dance in the video- I just saw him clapping.
I’m going to go out on a limb and saying he’s legit when it comes to doing the floss.


Ok that’s funny - well done! However, when we win BE tournament I expect a full out floss or at least a clap to the beat.

[bobbiemcgee]

https://twitter.com/jpmacura/status/1099771726089605120

[Juice]

Blackburn Review's series of tweets tonight joking about them being rejected for press credentials at the A10 tournament have been really funny

[UCGRAD4X]

https://twitter.com/XavierMBB/status/1100082844339236864

Some guys were worried about Q not celebrating in the last video here, I think he's pretty happy and we shouldn't worry about that after this ;)

Looks like Agent Zero doing a little Irish Jig at the end. Tyrique the Fryque meets Riverdance!

And would someone get the team some new dry erase markers, please

[paulxu]

I'd love to know the story behind that hat

That's a plastic bus driver's type hat, purchased by a team manager, and now worn in celebration.

The new team motto is something like "Get on the bus." Cumulative effort rather than a single guy leading the charge like Malcolm.

https://theathletic.com/840869/2019/02/27/all-aboard-how-a-bus-a-book-and-a-hat-help-drive-xaviers-hot-streak/?source=dailyemail

(Snipe needs to get one of he's taking the kids to MSG this year on the bus)

[X-band '01]

Megabus 2.0 for Snipe?

[scoscox]

https://twitter.com/BannersParkway/status/1100765839521927168

very interesting

[xu82]

https://twitter.com/BannersParkway/status/1100765839521927168

very interesting

If only we had gotten here a little sooner, but..... I’m glad we are making progress and hope we can build on this the rest of this year and moving forward!

[GIMMFD]

https://twitter.com/BannersParkway/status/1100765839521927168

very interesting

I think we all knew the talent was there, just frustrated that it took so long to mold together. I definitely thought Naji, Paul, Q, Rique would have grown into their roles a lot quicker than they did, but you know, here we are. If we could have just 3 of the collapses back from earlier in the season, we'd be in a good spot, but they figured it out now. I love the new found intensity on defense, if they can keep that up we can compete with anybody. Thursday is going to be colossal in seeing what this team can accomplish.

[xukeith]

Marshall and Q and Scruggs might get tired and start throwing the ball away during last 5 minutes of game. I hope it is a walk it up pace and grind it out defense. Don't let the SJU athleticism bother ball handling!

[joe titan]

Marshall and Q and Scruggs might get tired and start throwing the ball away during last 5 minutes of game. I hope it is a walk it up pace and grind it out defense. Don't let the SJU athleticism bother ball handling!

Do you know the lotto numbers too - or was it just that obvious ?

[XU 87]

https://twitter.com/BannersParkway/status/1100765839521927168

very interesting

Yes it is, and indicative of a team and its coaches "figuring things out", which in my book is a very good sign.

[GIMMFD]

https://twitter.com/XavierMBB/status/1101531192925540353

Good god someone enroll Welage into Dance Sport

[paulxu]

I gotta get one of those bus driver hats.

[noteggs]

A couple of things:

1 - The bus hat needs its own seat on the bench the last two games (at least).
2 - That song needs to be played before tipoff at home game vs St John (if that’s the actual song they’re dancing to in locker room).
3 - As for Welage’s dancing, nice to see he doesn’t do the white man’s overbite.

[bobbiemcgee]

Welage should stick to the Floss.

[X-band '01]

https://twitter.com/XavierMBB/status/1101531192925540353

Good god someone enroll Welage into Dance Sport

To be fair, he didn't have much practice at San Jose State.

[Juice]

A couple of things:

1 - The bus hat needs its own seat on the bench the last two games (at least).
2 - That song needs to be played before tipoff at home game vs St John (if that’s the actual song they’re dancing to in locker room).
3 - As for Welage’s dancing, nice to see he doesn’t do the white man’s overbite.

2) mouse & level - I bet u won't

[94GRAD]

This is the crew that made the team at uc tryouts yesterday!

https://twitter.com/classiestmuskie/status/1105185694899757058

[GoMuskies]

This is the crew that made the team at uc tryouts yesterday!

https://twitter.com/classiestmuskie/status/1105185694899757058

I'm not getting this one right away. Did YTG say some dumb ass thing about holding open tryouts after his team lost to Houston or some other assorted nonsense?

[bjf123]

I'm not getting this one right away. Did YTG say some dumb ass thing about holding open tryouts after his team lost to Houston or some other assorted nonsense?

Yep! He was going to talk to Luke Fickell about getting some football players.


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[94GRAD]

I'm not getting this one right away. Did YTG say some dumb ass thing about holding open tryouts after his team lost to Houston or some other assorted nonsense?

https://twitter.com/FOX19Jeremy/status/1104830250112962566

[paulxu]

What's Ryan Welage doing in that picture?

[GoMuskies]

https://twitter.com/FOX19Jeremy/status/1104830250112962566

Ha, that guy is comedy gold. He wants to be Huggins so bad, but he just doesn't measure up.

[xuwin]

Ha, that guy is comedy gold. He wants to be Huggins so bad, but he just doesn't measure up.

There's a reason Mick's name seldom comes up in coaching searches. At least UC doesn't have to worry about losing him.

[jhelmes37]

D. West with the obvious call here. Nice to see he's still watching and rooting. (https://twitter.com/D_West30/status/1106733074832867328)